#calamity-update-talk

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radiant sparrow
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fuck ass boss ngl. some of these death mode bosses are fucking awful

brittle escarp
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Plaguebringer, deus (sometimes), aureus (not hard just annoying), plantera, golem, the twins, skeletron prime, signus, storm weaver (sometimes), and, of course, CV

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my least favorite boss by far

radiant sparrow
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so far the bosses ive had real trouble with was eoc. twins, plantera and now goliath

brittle escarp
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Twin are the hardest mech boss and I am tired of pretending they arent

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they are so much worse than skeletron prime

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They are just slightly faster than you can be, so they always jsut graze you for like 450

echo lotus
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anyone getting a glitch where hornets dont shoot projectiles?

half vine
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idk what to feel about wing stats change

radiant sparrow
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I don't know how to improve against this fucking bee that's been crafted in the pits of Israel dude like get fucked

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I keep dying to stupid shit like getting surrounded by the pathetic ads while I'm dodging

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The fight feels so fucking slow dude

fathom girder
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More circles

desert garnet
radiant sparrow
cyan oasis
radiant sparrow
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?

cyan oasis
radiant sparrow
radiant sparrow
cyan oasis
radiant sparrow
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Gorillas win trust

dry whale
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There's only one way to beat three gorillas

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Four gorillas

lapis oak
dry whale
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I count as 2 gorillas

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So I'd lose

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Tragic

lapis oak
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That's what I thought

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Sending you to your demise

dry whale
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You count as .2 gorillas tho

cyan oasis
small coral
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for some reason post brainstorm update my frames have been really bad, it was never like this even with infernum. but with Death DOG while hosting only 2 people my frames go as low as 3

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is there any fix for this?

dull heart
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Haii

dull heart
strange crypt
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which class received the most interesting changes/balancing in the brainstorm update? looking for one to play, anything besides summoner since im holding off on it till 1.4.5

buoyant sun
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anyone i can buy truffle worms from

radiant sparrow
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Sea king

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The fishman

radiant sparrow
strange crypt
orchid finch
silver bolt
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yo does anyone know if solyn will still setup camp if you change it after doing soime of her quest

lapis oak
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pseudo vector
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for summoner specifically, probably the new whips that vanilla adds

pseudo vector
lapis oak
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CD mage glaze needs to be studied

silent chasm
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Yardis already made a video on mage

zinc grotto
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I finally beat one mech boss after several tries

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Where does the steampunker spawn

hoary edge
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build more house

zinc grotto
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oh so u don't have to find her in the undergrounds?

hoary edge
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ye

zinc grotto
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Thanks

tulip halo
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@lapis oak I dont know you but thank you my savior

lapis oak
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vas

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the chart?

tulip halo
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yeah

lapis oak
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np ✌️

tulip halo
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non chalent mf

dusk bronze
lapis oak
dusk bronze
lapis oak
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😠

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I should go nohit DoG

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looks fun

candid jay
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This configurate for classes is still good or theres a better configuration?

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thick cypress
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I’m curious what’s the reason for the changing ui? Is it anything in particular the team doesn’t like about the current one?

strange crypt
spiral tree
fierce hearth
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Sirius moment

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"Hm this damage is alright but not really what I expected from all the hype."

  • 100 starbursts hit
    "I see."
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seeing how nuts it is now I can't decide if I want to go at DoG melee or summon

high scaffold
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Speaking of storm weaver, why exactly do we need to fight it in space where there is a weaker gravity and planetoids

silent chasm
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You just summon him in space

fierce hearth
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yeah I fly up to the bottom of space summon him then fight him on ground level lmao

silent chasm
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Exactly

high scaffold
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Doesnt it enrage outside of space?

silent chasm
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nope

high scaffold
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Fabsolian game design at its finest

silent chasm
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Not really

fierce hearth
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Enrage was removed in Rust & Dust

silent chasm
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Some of the bosses don't enrage in the current update

fierce hearth
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It was there, just removed

high scaffold
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I assume all sentinels will be changed greatly in the future

fierce hearth
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Anyway, y'all decide for me

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Melee or summon for DoG

jovial sapphire
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mage

fierce hearth
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Sirius's giga laser is appealing but iunno a sword is fun too

jovial sapphire
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:3

high scaffold
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I wonder if the rune of kos will even exist in the future

fierce hearth
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Not! An! Option!

jovial sapphire
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it is now :3

fierce hearth
high scaffold
lapis oak
high scaffold
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Ceaseless is already confirmed to be in that one room in the dungeon

high scaffold
fierce hearth
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Isn't there... fearmonger armor...

lapis oak
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god bless multiclass armor

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we need more of them

fierce hearth
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I was thinking of Omega Blue

high scaffold
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If you want multiclass go play fargos souls

fierce hearth
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Is Omega Blue any good

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No regen... hm

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Scary

desert garnet
high scaffold
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I wonder how omega blue works with regenerator

fierce hearth
lapis oak
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I think enraged tentacles heal you to from half to full in like 1 sec

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lapis oak
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I might be stupid as fuck

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Omega Blue literally fucks Regenerator over right?

solar hare
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probably

lapis oak
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omg celebrity hiiii

fierce hearth
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Yep, totally fucks it

lapis oak
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totally useless fucking piece of glorpshit lol

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I even reforged all to Invigorating

fierce hearth
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the regenerator life regen still works, but it disables life regen related to max hp which is a very, very significant portion of the damage boost it provides

cloud berry
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One message removed from a suspended account.

fierce hearth
cloud berry
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One message removed from a suspended account.

desert garnet
high scaffold
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Im dreaming of calamity being actualy good

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In the future

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Sure, 2.1 is a major improvement over what it was before, but its only scratching the surface

fierce hearth
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my current gear lineup I'm considering using, with Sirius and Crescent Moon as my weapons of choice

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high scaffold
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A regular dash in this economy?

fierce hearth
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It provides enormous buffs

high scaffold
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Ik, but just seeing someone not following the ram dash propaganda

fierce hearth
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Ramdashes are good but I was having a lot of fun not using them

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I actually had to, god forbid, avoid Polterghast!

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(not that it was hard)

amber furnace
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lowkey I wanted to try to see how it is like to beat infernum without dashes

high scaffold
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Im gonna do a wingless run that will focus on gtavitation potions and globe one day

fierce hearth
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HOLY FUCK

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DOG IS A LOT MORE AGGRESSIVE

high scaffold
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Thats what the rework was for

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To be an actual boss

lapis oak
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share screen I kinda wanna watch lol

fierce hearth
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Yeah this is my first time

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ok sure but it's late as hell I'll be muted. will farm some potions first tho

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You can see my half-assed world lmao

strange widget
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hell yeah i ripped DoG to SHREDS last night aswell

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i "rushed" 90% of cal in the last 2-3 days bro my first playthrough and im so hooked

high scaffold
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From what Ive seen DoG does die a bit fast

fierce hearth
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So for DoG attempts next time:

  • remember the purple slash in phase 2
  • use Abyssal Madness
lapis oak
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Abyssal Madness lol I always forgot to use it whenever I just got OB

tribal isle
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Is scal gonna get a new theme if sbc is not canon

fierce hearth
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This is my first time using it! I always feared the no life regen

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It's funny that the two armor sets on tier are All Life Regen and No Life Regen

dusk bronze
fierce hearth
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Wdym "not canon"

dusk bronze
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1: literally no reason to replace it
2: it's one of the most beloved songs in the mod

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the community would nuke the devs from orbit

dusk bronze
fierce hearth
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Oh yeah that's simple just replace the lyrics jfkwjgkeng

tribal isle
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Dude who cares about sbc
Rotjd and dog’s theme (whatever the name is) are the iconic ones

dusk bronze
desert garnet
dusk bronze
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they can just be non canon

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it's fine

dusk bronze
gloomy grove
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are you gonna throw rocks at the dev team if they do change it

tribal isle
dusk bronze
gloomy grove
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i personally think its not that big of a deal

fierce hearth
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Replace it with gibberish. No one will know. I once listened to a French album and the first song was nonsense and I couldn't tell

lapis oak
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ok no Adre and Rage isn't gonna make it like too long

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probably still within 5-6 minutes

fierce hearth
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I've spoken to Doze about this before

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Adren suuuucks

lapis oak
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I think Adre is fiiiine for people who likes to melt boss with their skills

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personally I enjoy longer boss fights so I don't use them

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but Rage does suck tho

fierce hearth
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It's a winmore mechanic that feels inextricably linked to Cal's nohit obsession that it has never truly grown out of

hushed crown
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I like it because it gives me adrenaline

lapis oak
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it's fiiiine

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WHY SO MANY EYESSS

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fierce hearth
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Rage isn't great either but at least it's something more interactive than "play well, win faster"

lapis oak
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no Rage

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Rage is worse than Adre 😭

hushed crown
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Isn’t that just how everything in video games go

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If you’re good at it you beat it faster

fierce hearth
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Adren rewards perfect play with absolutely absurd damage

hushed crown
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I think that’s valid

lapis oak
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yeah Adre is fine, it's valid

gloomy grove
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rage and adren should be axed true

hushed crown
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If you did a perfect play

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You get perfect damage

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Or you just tank a hit idk

lapis oak
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but Rage you can just get it by just fighting the bosses normally for a boost that lasts forever

rotund venture
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hello update talk

lapis oak
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which is so bad 😭

rotund venture
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Kiri I'm watching your all bosses video rn you're doing a great job showing off all the reworks

fierce hearth
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Personally I just don't think it really adds anything except a quick dopamine rush and an easy trivialization of a boss, idk. It's funny but ultimately I don't like what it adds to the game, but I also am bad enough at the game to still use it when it comes up ;-;

lapis oak
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how

rotund venture
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showed up on recs

hushed crown
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I think a boss health multiplier could fix that

rotund venture
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recognizzed the name

hushed crown
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Still gives the enjoyment of the dopamine rush but doesn’t make the absurd damage trivialise the boss or something

rotund venture
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you should put it on the reddit and maybe get all the little freaks to actually see the peak reworks

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maybe then they'll shut up

cunning sequoia
gloomy grove
lapis oak
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Youtube recommendation going crazy right now I got like no views first few days

cunning sequoia
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last time kiri posted something on calsub

lapis oak
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then it just went up by like 1000%

cunning sequoia
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it uhh

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didnt go well

rotund venture
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I know

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it's amazing, when a dev posts something the comments arent so bad

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but for kiri

lapis oak
rotund venture
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it's hell

lapis oak
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it were like what, 2 charts showing new stuff

cunning sequoia
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it was like a whole battlefield

fierce hearth
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The thing about adrenaline's design is that as it stands it's a core mechanic. The game is balanced with players more than likely using it, so now we have a nuke button that's just part of the core game, and that's just Fine, I guess. If you ignore it, that's a decision that goes against the core design of the mod rn, even if it's an easy thing not to do.

hushed crown
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People have hate in their heart

rotund venture
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I think kiri just has shit luck

lapis oak
rotund venture
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not there yet I think

lapis oak
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it's so bad idk why I didn't cut it 😭

rotund venture
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watching empress fight

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btw rev+ empress pretty good imo

runic charm
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i think adrenaline is sick but rage is such a relatively small boost, and it doesnt require nohitting like adrenaline, so its pretty redundant. i think just combining rage into adrenaline would be ideal

rotund venture
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will it get a full rework or just a little polish, what do yall think?

hushed crown
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I never understood how rage even worked anyway

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Does it increase the closer you are to the boss/projectiles?

lapis oak
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yes

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I think only bosses count not projectiles

runic charm
fierce hearth
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Can rage and adren entirely, or make them accessories

rotund venture
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they are kind of integral to the mod's identity at this point

runic charm
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i enjoy adrenaline personally, its fun to be able to master phase 1 enough that it gives you an edge for phase 2

rotund venture
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having existed for so long

hushed crown
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Wouldn’t adrenaline fit better as a damage multiplier when you’re close to death or is that already a thing somewhere else

runic charm
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also doing crazy damage just feels rewarding. its kind of a junk food mechanic, but like, i cant deny that it does feel satisfying

lapis oak
final pine
rotund venture
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peak mentioned

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they can be, the respone would be nuclear

runic charm
final pine
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from reddit maybe

dusk bronze
gloomy grove
tribal isle
dusk bronze
rotund venture
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personally I like rage and adrenaline though I wouldn't mind if they were gone

final pine
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reddit is just a swarm of pestilent children anyway there's a reason no feedback is taken from that place

hushed crown
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Although some bosses are massive so it wouldn’t really be a tradeoff

tribal isle
hushed crown
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I’d imagine rage working something like that cause it kinda makes sense for the rage mechanic to have you just flailing your weapon around like a maniac

lapis oak
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reminded me that

amber furnace
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what if the rage meter is extended for the duration and damage based on how much you're attacking the enemy

lapis oak
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Dia "leaked" something a while ago

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that looks like some kinds of Rage rework

final pine
dusk bronze
fierce hearth
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My gripe with adrenaline is more or less that it's a winmore button that's presented as a core mechanic that players are implicitly encouraged to use (and implicitly told that not using it would be putting themselves at a disadvantage with the increased difficulty). It's extremely overturned at that, providing stupidly high damage if utilized correctly, to the point it allows for easy trivialization of certain bosses or mechanics. Players should be rewarded for playing well, yes, but could we possibly do something more engaging with "playing well" than "nohitting"? Rage sucks, but at its core it at least encourages you to do something you wouldn't otherwise try to do, which is stay close to the boss.

tribal isle
lapis oak
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ancient of death spoiler

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surely this is the fabled Rage rework and not a YOMI asset

amber furnace
gloomy grove
lapis oak
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after I brought this up, I think so too

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🥹

runic charm
fierce hearth
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Winmore =! Win

gloomy grove
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i dont remember what dia made specifically but i think it was the chosen one being able to cycle between elements and that just looks like something apart of it

fierce hearth
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It just means Playing Well = Making Game Faster/Easier

misty solstice
runic charm
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ive only ever seen "win more" used to refer to some boost that only comes into effect when youre doing well, to the point where you dont even need the boost anyway

gloomy grove
lapis oak
amber furnace
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I like adrenaline

gloomy grove
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"turn based" fighting game

misty solstice
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based game

fierce hearth
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That's precisely what I'm talking about. If you're nohitting already, then you're playing well.

spiral tree
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Omg it's been so long since I last heard of yomi

gloomy grove
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the game can be funny tbh, you get fun matchups like sukuna vs red ant

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misty solstice
gloomy grove
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hell nah i lost by like turn 4

runic charm
fierce hearth
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I understand there's scaling difficulty through boss fight phases, but then the design fails to make sense to me. If you nohit phase 1, then that means you're maxed on hp and have no pot sickness already, you're already in a good position for phase 2. Now you add adrenaline, which only serves to reduce the difficulty of phase 2 further, on top of your already good position.

misty solstice
runic charm
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maybe? ive never felt like adrenaline screws with the difficulty curve of bosses. usually my process of fighting a boss will be:

suck at the whole thing
get decent at phase 1, am able to barely make it to phase 2, die instantly
master phase 1, am able to take adrenaline into phase 2 now and get farther, but still lose
practice more, now my mastery of phase 1 + my adrenaline + getting good at phase 2 gets me the win

fierce hearth
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I think the simplest way I can put my argument is: you shouldn't reward players for things they were always going to do

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It doesn't add anything that valuable to your game, it's just Fluff.

runic charm
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if adrenaline were removed, i would lose the actual real life feeling of adrenaline as i feel it charging up, the satisfaction of using it, the disappointment of hearing the sound that plays when you lose it, etc. just go with a defense build, chug healing potions, and you dont have to worry about mastering a phase. "good enough" is all you need, theres no reward for mastery

fierce hearth
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The reward of mastery is itself, dunno what more to say

runic charm
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a lot of the fun and memorable moments of astrageldon and infernum dog and such were me mastering their first phases to the point where it gave me an advantage over what felt like a crazy difficult second phase. that was an extra layer to the fight that i appreciated having. i didnt just have to get into phase 2 infernum devourer with decent health and my potion off cooldown. i had to do it without getting hit, otherwise i would have to spend more time against the deadly second phase

runic charm
# fierce hearth The reward of mastery is itself, dunno what more to say

if you only need "good enough" then mastery isnt much of a reward. once a person just barely manages to beat a boss, they open the treasure bag and start crafting and gearing up for the next boss. they dont go back and master it. but with adrenaline, now youve given the average player that incentive to actually truly "master" a phase. not just stumble their way through it, but understand it deep enough to keep adrenaline throughout it

thick cypress
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I’m curious about why the devs wanted to rework the boc of all bosses, any chance of any other vanilla bosses getting changed or is boc the only planned

misty solstice
desert garnet
misty solstice
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the only boss I know that people actually memorize is scal

halcyon seal
desert garnet
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  • devs finally can work on bosses cuz fabsol is gone
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so they are also testing stuff

thick cypress
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That’s fair enough

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Yeah in the doc scal seems to be one of the only bosses being left untouched

halcyon seal
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Scal will probably get a rework eventually

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Not a massive one but

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I know people generally don’t like the bullet hell phases

desert garnet
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they prob gonna give her original ai

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cuz she uses retinazer ai

runic charm
fierce hearth
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I'm tired and do need to go to bed, but I wanna close out by saying that I do understand where you are coming from. There is a lot of feel that comes from the reward of surmounting that difficulty, and cashing in on it to use it to help you teeter over that edge to victory. It's a really potent feeling, and I felt it a lot, too. But after a while my feelings changed. I already wanted to avoid all attacks, so I could use more aggressive strategies to further simplify the boss. So what does adrenaline serve, then? If that motivation is already there, it's just there to occupy design space. Sure I can be "good enough" at a boss, but if I'm excellent, then the boss becomes easier. The challenge is lessened by my excellence. I'm fighting an easier boss by playing well. Am I even surmounting the same challenge I was just "good enough" at now? It's a design philosophy I fundamentally disagree with, and that's just that for me.

misty solstice
lapis oak
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same for DoG

halcyon seal
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Big E isn’t actually a dev he just materialized out of the ether one day and had the dev role

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Nobody knows how they got here

misty solstice
thick cypress
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Yeah that’s very fair, do you guys think we will see any sunken sea stuff in the next update?

desert garnet
lapis oak
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no

lapis oak
desert garnet
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so dont expect sunken sea as the next update

misty solstice
lapis oak
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the whole SS won't be the next update anymore but maybe you'll get some SS tiles

misty solstice
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we got some updated sprite

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like the seaprisim

thick cypress
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Yeah I did see that, so what do you guys think the focus will be

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Crags update sounds like it will be sick

rotund venture
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we don't know and theres not much point in speculating

runic charm
# fierce hearth I'm tired and do need to go to bed, but I wanna close out by saying that I do un...

that is fair, and i appreciate the thoughtful response. it depends on the person i guess. maybe there could be some kind of challenge mode that disables adrenaline and rage, while still keeping rev/death difficulties, for people who would feel more satisfied beating bosses without it

to me, adrenaline is just fun. fighting really hard bosses feels like a story, and adrenaline adds a new depth to that story. its not perfect, but its far more thoughtful and engaging than potions and damage accessories. it feels satisfying, it symbolizes mastery of a phase, etc etc. also, i really really prefer short fights over long ones, so i would much rather have a 1 minute long ultra hard glass cannon adrenaline fight than a 5 minute long, no adrenaline, defense build fight

rotund venture
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the devs have already decided

runic charm
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but ill leave it there, ill let you go to bed lol

rotund venture
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and will reveal in time

lapis oak
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of course it will be the fabled

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cathedral update

icy stump
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We just have to wait

rotund venture
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ravager rework sometime

thick cypress
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Is the slime god resprite still real?

regal vessel
icy stump
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Cathedral + New Hell structures + Crags rework would be massive

regal vessel
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Its Cataclysm and Catastrophe that I have a problem with

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their projectiles are just extremely difficult to dodge in such a small arena and deal a shit ton of damage

misty solstice
rotund venture
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the winged and spike slime god stuff is scrapped I believe

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afaik

regal vessel
rotund venture
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but the core resprite idk

regal vessel
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only the concept art

misty solstice
rotund venture
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I don't think there is a ravager resprite yet

desert garnet
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only concept art

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i think

misty solstice
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yur

desert garnet
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or was that polter

rotund venture
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we have had a polter resprite tease

regal vessel
rotund venture
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again, don't remember if it was scrapped or not

regal vessel
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but it was so long ago its probably gonna be scrapped too

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if it does good cause im not a huge fan of it

misty solstice
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didnt we get a demonshade resprite tease?

rotund venture
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we did at some point

lapis oak
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Polter not scrapped, got sprites teased

thick cypress
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It’s crazy how different polter will be

lapis oak
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Ravager only concepts teased

high scaffold
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Im so hyped for 1.4.5 tmod

misty solstice
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yur

rotund venture
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as cool as the concept is, spriting it seems like it'll be hell

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especially with the ideas they have for its attacks where it goopifies and changes forms

misty solstice
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old duke got a sprite tease

rotund venture
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that one is scrapped I'm almost def sure

misty solstice
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ong?

high scaffold
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The piggy one? I think its scrapped

misty solstice
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damn

high scaffold
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Old duke is up to a complete makeover

thick cypress
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So if I had to guess probably summoner rework next update, assuming tmod gets update in like the next 6 months

rotund venture
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see it's this repetition of "that was scrapped" that makes me think we'll be getting waaaay less teasers

misty solstice
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did we ever get that murasama rework that was proposed by dia

high scaffold
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Multiple attacks one?

rotund venture
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I'm gonna lose my mind

misty solstice
desert garnet
high scaffold
earnest jewel
misty solstice
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exo suits we got teasers but idk, aerolyte was teased to be only ranger mage, brimeflame for mage, dedaulous being rogue summoner only, hydro being mage melee, godslayer being ranger rogue summoner, aureic tesla resprite

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demon shade too iirc

high scaffold
desert garnet
misty solstice
rotund venture
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I believe that is all true as far as we know

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anyway yea pins has a big doc

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you should go through it

misty solstice
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oh cool I guess I can finally throw this peice of paper away

rotund venture
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keep in mind

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nothing in that doc is gospel or guaranteed and it can all change

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at any time

high scaffold
lapis oak
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Phalanx Surge charge attack is so awesome

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big fan

distant agate
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what reforges do you guys like to run for ranger?

misty solstice
earnest jewel
lapis oak
rotund venture
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I'm not saying it WILL all change

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I'm just saying

distant agate
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ywa warding seems about right

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ty

rotund venture
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don't treat it like god's words

vivid hemlock
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its like dev statements

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they always can change

misty solstice
rotund venture
# lapis oak Warding

okay I have now seen the lil interlude bit you did and it's v cute you kept it in

lapis oak
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it's crazy you sat through almost 4 hours of autism showcase 😭

earnest jewel
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What?

rotund venture
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2:20ish currently

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and you must realize I too have the tism

lapis oak
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OH WAIT

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INTERLUDE 3 THAT'S post ML lol

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I meant Interlude 4 the post Yharon one

rotund venture
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I guess I'll see when I get there then

vivid hemlock
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The monstrosity uploaded 3.5 hours of footage.

hollow edge
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I found something called The Comb

And it's just a spaceballs reference and i love it

lapis oak
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I know it's a vanity but does it even change anything

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I couldn't tell

hollow edge
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it tracks nearby chests apparently

tribal isle
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so how do you get xyk's blessing

lapis oak
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kill Crawlers

spark kiln
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is pw still considered a superboss and is it meant to be balanced/fair

tribal isle
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no

dull bobcat
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is it only me, or did revengance mode got heavily nerfed? like, i was playing summoner full menacing and a contact hit from DoG's head dealt only like 200 dmg

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or is it a problem on my side?

tribal isle
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bosses, weapons

dull bobcat
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so that's the type of calamity experiance i should expect from now till next update?

earnest jewel
strange widget
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pw is primodorial wyrm, right?

earnest jewel
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There are no bosses categorized as 'Superboss' anymore. It's an optional challenge.

earnest jewel
strange widget
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Any drops from him

earnest jewel
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Halibut Cannon.

strange widget
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looks weak

tribal isle
strange widget
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rev

high scaffold
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I hope that calamity will become more friendly to new players in the future

strange widget
high scaffold
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It does barely anything to explain anything to newcomers

strange widget
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i did my first run and it went good

high scaffold
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So they must rely on things like boss checklist

strange widget
high scaffold
strange widget
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no

high scaffold
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Say, how would you know that old duke exists without the use of boss checklist

strange widget
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yeah that's valid

high scaffold
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Because its first needs you to beat polterghast, see in chat that it made acid rain stronger, then beat the acid rain and only then youd see the old duke

strange widget
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yeah i see

high scaffold
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And then aerialite, all of abyss and many more

strange widget
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abyss i kinda didnt even explore

high scaffold
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You either need to be exposed to calamity before you play it or use a lot of crutch mods and the wiki

high scaffold
strange widget
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i only dipped in a few times to grab some loot but no proper exploration

high scaffold
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And how would a player learn that abyss exists and how big it is

strange widget
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yeah yeah

high scaffold
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There is text in chat but its easy to miss and barely explains anything

strange widget
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yeah i missed lots of the post-boss chats

high scaffold
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There is a step in the right direction with shimmer pointing structure on the surface right above the shimmer itself

strange widget
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i didnt find the shimmer in my world 😭

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although i didnt search for it either

high scaffold
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I think they are also going to add hints about existence of sunken sea in the elusive SSO update

lapis oak
silent chasm
tribal isle
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i bet 90% of people on their first playthroughs werent aware of its existance before they need to fight exos

strange widget
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i was aware ngl

stark pond
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the problem of game you can do everything is there will always be moments you question "what should i do to progress"

stuck stag
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did the rusty medalion get removed ?

strange widget
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i think its great to be able to do whatever you want and are not always forced to do 1 boss next

lapis oak
high scaffold
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But if we recall to how it functions now and before, better to say replaced

acoustic talon
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I'm waiting on jury summons lmao anyone got questions while I'm sitting here waiting

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Literally anything jus lemme type somethin

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Fuckkkkkkkk

silent chasm
rotund venture
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big sword

high scaffold
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I wonder if the wulfrum enemies are going to be updated

earnest jewel
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Wulfrum World Overhaul.

high scaffold
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The wulfrum drone controller's drone got resprited in 2.1, so I think yes

frail cove
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I don’t think the resprite is on the wiki yet; what does it look like?

high scaffold
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It got the little propeller on top and some other stuff to make it higher quality overall

frail cove
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That’s fun

high scaffold
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And I think its more round now

civic quarry
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Is coop working rn?

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Or it is broken

echo lotus
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Having a glitch in multiplayer where certain enemy’s like hornets just don’t shoot projectiles for some reason. Anyone know what it could be?

arctic cliff
tropic jolt
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AmidiasEvasion SSO tomorrow

acoustic talon
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I assume non

arctic cliff
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well then they ought to

acoustic talon
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Wtf is omega Amidas

tropic jolt
earnest jewel
acoustic talon
earnest jewel
acoustic talon
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I have invoked he?

earnest jewel
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You have.

acoustic talon
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I have

solemn crest
dull heart
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what if i had a wiki spoiler

strange cargo
rotund venture
#

sso never I ate it

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sorry yall I was hungy

solemn crest
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Man I just finished making the image blue

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Spit it back out

rotund venture
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🤮 🦞 🦀 🌊 ⬇️

tropic jolt
fathom girder
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Not even smokin' sexy style

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fake dante

solemn crest
tropic jolt
fathom girder
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oh

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I'm a fake fanm

tropic jolt
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SSStylish

dull heart
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what on earth

tropic jolt
steel pike
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hi doze hi cyver

tropic jolt
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hi

rotund venture
steel pike
steel pike
strange cargo
tropic jolt
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he created a successor so perfect that even the jungle dragon roared!

arctic cliff
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Wtf

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😭

tropic jolt
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not the first, far from the last, sso tomorrow all the same AmidiasEvasionAmidiasEvasionAmidiasEvasion

arctic cliff
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indeed

keen zodiac
# tropic jolt

this thing does an ungodly amount of damage and i love it

dull heart
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spoiler time

frail owl
tropic jolt
distant raft
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wiki????????

tropic jolt
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even the wiki getting updates

pulsar cobalt
dull heart
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just kidding it's not a spoiler

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it's already public

rotund venture
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a note for shrine items cool

dull heart
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only UGC has it so far but we plan to add them to things instead of the icons going forward

hoary edge
frail owl
dense sundial
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are there any solid plans as to the next major update? not asking what they are, just whether they exist

frail owl
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please add wires to sso

dull heart
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we have plans yes

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^

earnest jewel
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There's always a plan, and that plan will upset Reddit.

dense sundial
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yeah i saw that

rotund venture
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it's john calamity

distant raft
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still not out of fish hell </3

rotund venture
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fish mines on hiatus

dull heart
#

when do i go to ravager heaven

frail owl
tropic jolt
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sir nautilus was eaten by lynel 😔

dull heart
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when do i get to kill realm ravager

rotund venture
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ravager rework sometimes

frail owl
earnest jewel
tropic jolt
pulsar cobalt
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ravager tomorrow

dense sundial
distant raft
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actually, ravager 12 minutes ago you just missed it

dense sundial
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he's fine

frail owl
dull heart
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i can't wait to change realm ravager

lyric trellis
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Doze new obsession

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Literally came to him in a dream

hollow harness
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The next Ramanujan

steel pike
steel pike
blazing field
frail owl
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where's woman1 and woman2?

blazing field
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Sealed away.

lapis oak
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stupid ass chud so close

image.png
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@dull heart doing first nohit ever with your Mirror Blade

dull heart
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peak

tropic jolt
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so peak

indigo wraith
blazing field
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never

earnest jewel
#

Woman4 is in development and 'very close to completion'.

spiral trellis
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Does regenerator (the accessory) disable regen from candle of vigor?

rare tinsel
#

no

white aurora
spiral trellis
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Why isn’t grand guardian used to craft grand dad instead of majestic guard? (And by extension why isn’t grand dad used to craft earth?) It feels kind of like an oversight

steel pike
deft lily
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this implies theres a woman1 and woman2

spiral trellis
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The third woman ever??

tropic jolt
fathom girder
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how many times do we have to say this the other two were BANISHED to

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um

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an undisclosed location

deft lily
deep bough
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Howie Mandel is the first person EVER!

kindred night
#

this is scary

dry whale
kindred night
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😭

dry whale
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withered foxy jumpscare

earnest jewel
dry whale
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I am very real tho

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look

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hits you with a stick

fathom girder
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musta been the wind

deft lily
blazing field
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not anymore though

kindred night
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what happened to them

tropic jolt
#

ascension

misty solstice
blazing field
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Only i remain

kindred night
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dang

tropic jolt
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sealed and betrayed ...

kindred night
deft lily
steel pike
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why were they banished

blazing field
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we don't talk about it

dry whale
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what if I am woman2

steel pike
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wait

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say that again…

fathom girder
dry whale
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wtf

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I just came back from there

fathom girder
#

1 and 2 are banished as per the laws of woman

dry whale
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it was a hard climb

fathom girder
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so

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back down you go

dry whale
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WTF

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I already have been banished once I think that fills the quota

fathom girder
#

woman3 will decide your fate, then

dry whale
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gulp

vivid hemlock
dull heart
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me irl

rotund venture
#

Fish

dry whale
dull heart
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Uh oh

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That wouldn't be very nice

dry whale
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oh ok

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then I won't

rotund venture
#

But we can make you into great sushi

amber furnace
white aurora
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🫧 🐠

lapis oak
fathom girder
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blue to yellow pipeline in action

earnest jewel
fathom girder
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hey hey hey

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you aren't woman3

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she will be the judge

mystic eagle
dull heart
vivid hemlock
# lapis oak

You will be washed away by a wave of barbed wire and spikes that will tear you apart the moment it lands.

rotund venture
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Sighhhh I guess you can stay unsushied for now

dull heart
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trust lemee cook

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misty solstice
dull heart
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symbols dying they suck

misty solstice
#

also isnt there already a symbol for difficult to obtain

misty solstice
dull heart
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They are very limited in what they can actually convey + hard for readers to understand

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except those who read the setups regularly

misty solstice
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bruh

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I mean

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calamity players dont read so Ig it makes sense

rotund venture
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Nah I go to that page every playthrough multiple times and still have no clue what any symbol is

dull heart
lapis oak
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curse

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curse of

rotund venture
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Very pretty purple color

misty solstice
vivid hemlock
#

wiki themes...

rotund venture
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Why bother memorizing that crap when I'm gonna get all the gear anyway

thorny nacelle
rotund venture
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Theyre making a new one

solemn crest
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Invisible dye is silly

thorny nacelle
#

Will the OG theme still be an option?

dull heart
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you can copy it to your own wiki account if you want

misty solstice
#

cross is hard to use, c is cc, + is support, < is variants iirc, * is something is anoyying, amd the omega is supposed to be used with another item

dull heart
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missed the other cross

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for difficult to use

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Wait

rotund venture
#

Doze you dont have pronouns on profile

dull heart
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I'm so blind

misty solstice
#

naur

dull heart
rotund venture
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Was they/them fine or?

inland carbon
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Haven't played the ranger class in 2 years, is it a lot better now?

tropic jolt
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then? its almost like doze is still with us...

dull heart
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use whatever seems right to you idc

misty solstice
# dull heart I'm so blind

I like reading though so I can easily remember this stuff, which most calamity players apperently dont

misty solstice
thorny nacelle
misty solstice
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like "wsg slime"

dull heart
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you can try but no promises I'll respond

thorn pier
dull heart
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The theme CSS for this is currently on User:Doze/Vector.css but you can copy it to your own user Common.css or Vector.css

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I think the theme is mostly done but like

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it needs more stress testing

thorny nacelle
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Oh, sorry about that. I didn't realize you weren't done typing.

dull heart
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I was until then lol

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I just realized I should note that

misty solstice
dull heart
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custom styling for a wiki yes

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I mean I basically have my own custom wiki theme rn

misty solstice
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I can have flamey

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lfg

polar tide
misty solstice
rotund venture
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White car

thorny glacier
dull heart
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Hey

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Wiki theme dropped

icy stump
#

Nice

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Where can I find it?

pulsar cobalt
dull heart
#

if issues are found bring them to the wiki channel so we can fix em

misty solstice
icy stump
#

I'll create an account

open arch
#

maybe this is a weird nitpick but I’m kinda saddened by the lack of Hardmode Ore weapon effects

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Christ.. either I’m blind or I don’t even see the change to remove the effects from the weapons that they used to have in logs

spark kiln
#

what weapons

open arch
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Oh uh

spark kiln
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i don’t remember hard mode ore weapons having special effects

open arch
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The cobalt, palladium, mythril, orichalcum, adamantite and titanium spears and swords

spark kiln
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u sure that was calamity

distant raft
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cobalt sword and naginata decreased defence by 25% for 10 seconds, titanium sword and halberd had up to 1.15x damage based on kb resist

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stuff like that

open arch
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yeh

distant raft
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yeah it was cal

open arch
#

hate to ask it like this but like

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Were those ideas Fabsol had?

cobalt wharf
#

no

spark kiln
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fabsol or not the point was to reduce changes to vanilla content

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which is lame but whatever

open arch
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fair ‘nuff

cobalt wharf
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things aren’t removed only because they’re fabsol, if something’s removed it’s because it’s bad in one way or another
that just happens to overlap with being fabsol in a lot of cases

open arch
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Wasn’t going on some soapbox about the guy but yeah

cobalt wharf
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im perfectly fine with removing those changes since they were all really dull but i dont get replacing them with stat shuffles. thats even more boring and doesnt fix the vanilla change issue

cobalt wharf
open arch
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plaguebringer goliath my once beloathed

spark kiln
dull heart
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it was supposed to be 10 seconds but nobody ever coded the ending of the effect actually removing the effect

cobalt wharf
#

they just don’t have inherit stats

spark kiln
dull heart
#

?

cobalt wharf
#

yeah they still do

spark kiln
#

no they don’t

dull heart
#

Yeah

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The ore armors all have calamity set bonuses

open arch
#

Some of them still do but weren’t some tweaked a good bit?

distant raft
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the stats from pieces got removed, they still have the set bonuses

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iirc

open arch
#

or am I having a elsterderp moment

cobalt wharf
#

yes

open arch
#

ah

spark kiln
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they just straight up don’t bro

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also like necro armor and stuff

dull heart
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Copper is AP, tin is crit, iron is knockback, lead is knockback immune, silver is medkit, tungsten is hooks, gold is money based dmg, platinum is DR

cobalt wharf
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what are you even talking about. where did you find this lie

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you could verify this in 30 seconds by opening the video game

open arch
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“My source is I made it the FUCK up”

dull heart
open arch
cobalt wharf
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necro is the same meteor is the same

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cobalt mythril adamantite are the same

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frost is buffed but the same core

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all of them still exist lol

open arch
#

also, wing bonuses being completely removed makes me sad but what can a lady do

misty solstice
cobalt wharf
#

matter of fact more were added like rain

open arch
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not completely but like

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Angel wings come to mind

spark kiln
#

psyop ig

open arch
cobalt wharf
#

you can see the pinned message here for their new intended niches

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i wish it was communicated better ingame since the wing stats are really confusing to read but they all are meant to have different purposes it seems

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it’s still a lot better than just random 5% damage 5% crit on every wing imo

dull heart
#

wing tooltips got like 10x worse this update

cobalt wharf
misty solstice
rotund venture
#

I can answer that

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It isnt

boreal edge
#

Wing tooltips got far more accurate actually it’s just that essentially nobody cares about exact numbers

tropic jolt
#

very worth it give calamity all your money right now

misty solstice
misty solstice
cobalt wharf
rotund venture
#

Im not joking, like

cobalt wharf
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just they’re very confusing to physically read and parse the relevant information

rotund venture
#

I have a decent income so ye im gonna support the mod

boreal edge
#

Yes

rotund venture
#

But for early acess to updates? Meh

dull heart
blazing field
#

I've noticed the wiki has been lacking in edits so

dull heart
tropic jolt
#

theres no update available to get access to right now

cobalt wharf
#

the 20$ tier has immense value tbh

blazing field
#

i'm just gonna do it myself

image.png
dull heart
#

And being able to parse the wing info is like

blazing field
#

have nothing to do rn anways

cobalt wharf
#

free spoilers forever and any string of text u want inserted into an npc name

dull heart
#

The #1 most important thing a tooltip needs to do

misty solstice
rotund venture
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Yeah you shouldnt go for auric unless you have the money for it

tropic jolt
#

cosmilite 😻

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purple best color

rotund venture
#

And really wanna show your support

dull heart
#

you should all always go auric tier so that calamity gets more money so that I get more money

misty solstice
dense sundial
misty solstice
#

you need 20 bucks or somethin

dense sundial
#

since it says "increases fall speed" and every other wing niche lies in the expanded stats

cobalt wharf
#

and bee i think

steel pike
dull heart
dense sundial
#

oh yeah bee has featherfall. that stacks with featherfall potion.

rotund venture
dull heart
#

I'm working on both making the shift tooltip more parsable

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And adding non shift niche tooltips

steel pike
#

That’s fucking sick

#

I change my mind

tropic jolt
#

forever*

pulsar cobalt
#

its very funny

cobalt wharf
#

i haven’t been kicked out yet

misty solstice
dull heart
#

Stompers are bugged to always add vertical momentum in some situations

rotund venture
#

Look the early access to Brainstorm was real hice ngl

tropic jolt
#

forever until the bot gets fixed which might happen idk

dull heart
#

So you can just flyyt

pulsar cobalt
misty solstice
cobalt wharf
#

all patreon stuff for things like terraria mods are only to support the mods u like, the bonuses aren’t the main thing

pulsar cobalt
#

very funny to jump once and just

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go to space in a second

rotund venture
#

But unless you're certain you can lose the 50$, go lower

dull heart
misty solstice
# dull heart Sure

why didnnt yall make tiers to the alchol since they are drinks of similar creation. like tequilla isnt in the recipe for a margarita

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something like this ig?

image.png
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if it was just like "didnt want to do that way" thenmakes sense

dull heart
#

Upgrades into entirely unrelated niches would be odd

proper thunder
#

hi dozezoz

dull heart
#

no way

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avacado in maon

#

Main

#

it's been ages

proper thunder
#

ikr

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i dont talk in main anymore at all

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i was looking for something but i forgot

pulsar cobalt
#

just remember

dull heart
#

be avacado
gets one million dps with Saros
leave

proper thunder
proper thunder
#

i wanna remake that video tbh

dull heart
#

Have you heard

silent chasm
dull heart
#

Feral Bobber can get a 6 yharon

proper thunder
dull heart
#

6s

proper thunder
#

holy shit

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how??

dull heart
#

Bloodworm in bait slots, devourer of Cods, old fashioned, arc flash, iv drip

primal badge
pulsar cobalt
#

didnt take account bloodworm...

proper thunder
#

ooo

silent chasm
#

well i'm using a weapon, not a fishing pole

dull heart
#

I tested bloodworm and it didn't work

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But that's because I didn't put it in bait slot

misty solstice
dull heart
#

Old alcohol had some of that and it was just not interesting

primal badge
dull heart
#

Actually

primal badge
#

problem solved™

proper thunder
#

its not a scaling issue like saros is it? just a “we forgot this one edge case”?

dull heart
#

no it's not scaling it's just

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4500-5000 base dmg

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6 times a second

proper thunder
#

o damnnn

dull heart
#

10x

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(bc 10 bobbers)

proper thunder
#

thats fucked up lmao

dull heart
#

Not even the most broken thing

proper thunder
#

havent played brainstorm yet honestly

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ive been too busy on the mew genics gridn

dull heart
proper thunder
dull heart
#

Silva revive stopped the dodge cooldown from applying to evolution

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So every single frame it counted as being hit

honest trail
#

If were going to block it, should have blocked it properly.

dull heart
#

what are you talking about

honest trail
#

Whips without an attack speed buff receive the effects of other whips' buffs.

dull heart
#

we didn't remove the speed buff on purpose

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They don't stack with each other but they can apply to non speed whips

honest trail
#

However, attack speed buffs from whips do not stack with each other.

dull heart
#

that's what I just said yup

honest trail
primal badge
#

Yeah works as intended

proper thunder
#

balancing moment

lean relic
#

That's what doze just said

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Its intended

proper thunder
#

u might b thinking of 1.4.5 that removes both

lapis oak
#

that's what I said

dull heart
#

When 1.4.5 drops that'll be gone though

primal badge
#

1.4.5 does remove that

honest trail
misty solstice
lean relic
#

Just wait until tmodloader ports to 1.4.5

misty solstice
dull heart
#

1.4.5 basically added my entire summon tag system into vanilla it's so funny

honest trail
#

So stacking was partially in place back then

proper thunder
#

yeah cal didnt fully remove it

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just stacking buffs and tag damage iirc

primal badge
#

it'll die when tmod comes to 1.4.5 and cal updates for it

proper thunder
#

good riddance

primal badge
#

yeah :D

proper thunder
#

wiat i think i still have the cal patch that has the saros bug, i could probably remake that video

primal badge
#

it's kinda funny how many people started exploding after stacking got removed

proper thunder
#

i completely forgot to activate bloodstones armors devil bonus in it LMFAO

honest trail
misty solstice
dull heart
#

thing is item stacking skill expression still exists

#

it's just generally cross class

misty solstice
#

buh buh buh my class

dull heart
#

Like I've never seen anyone but myself talk about half of the great stacking items in terraria

proper thunder
#

ntm cal adds a lot of them

misty solstice
#

yuh

dull heart
#

And makes a lot of them better

misty solstice
#

it also makes it 1000x easier to do

dull heart
#

Like wasp gun becoming static instead of global

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Wasp Gun is so underrated

misty solstice
#

especially with the fact there is classless weapons

lean relic
dull heart
#

Right now the best item in the mod is a classless weapon

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claret cannon

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wasp gun is good but bat scepter is available right after

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Because you can stack 10 different claret cannons and get a healing potion every 10 seconds

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it's not?

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Wasp Gun is much better for weapon swapping

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Because wasps build up on the enemies so you can stop firing it and lose no DPS at all

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oh is there a limit on that

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Meaning support weapons on it are entirely free dps

misty solstice
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making it static makes it so it doesnt effect other weapons i frames right

honest trail
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Even when it was global though

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coolio

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You could use stuff like Betsy's Wrath

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Betsy's Wrath and Wasp Gun is a crazy good combo

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This is also why I hate the swarmer with a passion

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It loses literally everything interesting about bee guns mechanically

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wait thats so lame wtf

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ive never seen this before

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a late game usage for bees could be so cool because bee weapons are close to if not my favorite subtype of weapon

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this is just magic shotgun

misty solstice
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fuckin beeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

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misty solstice
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need more hardmode bee weapons

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I need more dart weapons personally