calamity-update-talk

[misty solstice]

here I am, still in pre hardmode after like 4 years

[rotund venture]

Youre the only person playing the game right

[misty solstice]

I just dont want to kill the guide

[rotund venture]

I take back my statement

Coward

[misty solstice]

nah its cause hes a homie

[tired adder]

I was one of people, who fought fargo's champions for sake of it instead of for enchantments

[tropic jolt]

the guide is the wall of flesh he is EVIL!!!

[rotund venture]

Real ones remember when the guide let zombies in intentionally

[misty solstice]

remember? twin he still doess

[frail cove]

What's scarier is that it's characters that you know

[rotund venture]

I leave him in a box under the floor so he cant

[frail cove]

why does he look like he was drawn by pilotredsun

[tired adder]

modded mc taught me, that those people are either very impatient or have wrong priorities

[misty solstice]

I only really play atm9 for minecraft. I either end up doing the whole mekanisim setup before I go to the nether or I end up deep into minecolonies making my own civilzation

[tired adder]

although I did get hit with extreme anti-luck in 1.4.5 playthrough (lava charm), so...

maybe I am too patient...

[rotund venture]

I had something to add but its late and I forgot so

Ravager rework sometime

[misty solstice]

thats the hope

[tired adder]

I was rejoiced, when I heard that Ravager was going to become post-Provi properly

[rotund venture]

Eventually

[misty solstice]

ravager rework. just a week away. ravager in a week!

[steel pike]

The guide is evil because he shoots slimes with his stupid little bow and then they attack me instead of him

[spring aspen]

Are the elemental accessories getting rebranded now that their recipes are different?

[dusk bronze]

shrug

[tired adder]

speaking of elemental items...

what was the reason to rename them all?

[spring aspen]

I'm guessing because it sounds cooler

Naming everything "Elemental ___" gets stale

[vivid hemlock]

they were all elemental "weapon" yeah

curse of ancient mod

[tired adder]

also, more of wiki issue

but wiki category lists Galactica Singularity as "primary" item

yet "elemental" items no longer use galacticas in their recipes

[spring aspen]

#wiki-discussion ?

[tired adder]

what is even their name as set now

[vivid hemlock]

still elemental

[dusk bronze]

still elemental weapons

[tired adder]

honestly expected devs to drop that as well

since they no longer even share a material

[rotund venture]

I imagine its convenient internally

To just refer to them like that

[vivid hemlock]

well they werent gonna be completely separated

alot of them got resprited this update, so ark and slaughterer arent the only ones with the updated design

[rotund venture]

They are also all (going to be) precursors to MM weapons

Lightspeed to exoblade, nucleosmth to vivid clarity etc

[tired adder]

also one odd thing I don't get about redesigns

[rotund venture]

Slaughterer is relatively new and ark is ironically not a part of the set

[tired adder]

...why they are all wooden?

[rotund venture]

Lightspeed is the sword

[tired adder]

like luminite is not a type of wood, but handles for elemental weapons all look like twigs and branches

[vivid hemlock]

probably because most of them are upgrades to the terra weapons i think, or there isnt a reason and its just a space wood thing

[rotund venture]

🤷‍♂️

Will be cool to see the eventual elemental bomb

For supernova

[vivid hemlock]

then again the terra weapons just copy the terra blade aesthetic so that doesnt rlly make sense

atleast not until theyre apparently changed again

[rotund venture]

Dont think there are plans to change the Terra weapons

Maybe some touch ups

[tired adder]

living shard/terra set is ironically more metallic than elemental set

[vivid hemlock]

yeah

its weird

[vivid hemlock]

changes that would come with the update that overhauls all the perennial content afaik

[tired adder]

maybe calamity texture pack will have answers, when they resprite luminite

[vivid hemlock]

ctp isnt official so idk abt that

[rotund venture]

Ctp?

[vivid hemlock]

calamity texture pack

[rotund venture]

Ah gotcha

[vivid hemlock]

uh i know a bunch of the old artists used to work on it and that was the closest it was to being official i think

[rotund venture]

Anyway seeing as the terra weapons are mostly fine, especially samsara slicer which was just reworked, I dont see the set being fully redone

Again, maybe touched up a bit

Spear and bow need

[vivid hemlock]

plenty of things could be considered fine in the mod rn that are being changed eventually

[rotund venture]

Work

[rotund venture]

Yes but not the entire set, like I said the spear and bow for sure, maybe the wand as well

Though I like the wand

[vivid hemlock]

photosynthesis?

[rotund venture]

Yea

[tired adder]

you could argue that live alloy is more alive

[vivid hemlock]

its kinda just

a beam

[tired adder]

but life alloy is only 33% plant

[rotund venture]

It has the little homing projectiles when it hits

Looks neat

[tired adder]

also elemental item handles are not amalgamates of 3 different things, so they can't be live alloy

[rotund venture]

Life alloy will be executed eventually

As it deserves

[vivid hemlock]

yeah

[dusk bronze]

galactica singularity next

🙏

[vivid hemlock]

it better be

[rotund venture]

GS can be killed right now for all I care, just use the friggin fragments

[strange cargo]

Buff vengeful sun staff

[vivid hemlock]

you combined two names i think

[strange cargo]

nope

[rotund venture]

Life alloy needs to wait for the perennial, cryonic and scoria changes but it will die

[vivid hemlock]

sun spirit and vengeful sun are separate items

[strange cargo]

ah shit I did

why does is use the sun spirit staff and not keep the name tf

anyways

[rotund venture]

Also both of those are pretty strong

[strange cargo]

thats the joke

[rotund venture]

Im stupid

[pulsar cobalt]

vengeful sun saros spirit sirius staff

[strange cargo]

I beat prov with vengeful sun

and its pre plantera

[tired adder]

calamity crafting trees, if they were creative

[rotund venture]

New Saros my beloved

Peak

[vivid hemlock]

perennial will finally make sense instead of being plant ore number 4

[rotund venture]

4?

[tired adder]

what's about it

[rotund venture]

Chloro is 1, perennial is 2 and ulie is 3

[vivid hemlock]

im not trying to be exact

[rotund venture]

Ulie will also be killed in an alley

[tired adder]

4th is illumite from thorium

[strange cargo]

whos plays thorium and calamity at the same time

[tired adder]

huh?

[vivid hemlock]

turned into tree bark you find in a specific biome in mid hardmode

[rotund venture]

Uliebloom will (eventually, again, semi far future) be removed

And replaced with some sort of profaned alternative

[vivid hemlock]

yeah its just getting outright removed, dunno if there will be a replacement but it will be gone regardless

[tired adder]

I need to read that weird doc...

[rotund venture]

Not necessarily an ore, since I know some devs dont want profaned ore

But somthinf

[misty wren]

i think the plan is for it to be something profaned

[misty wren]

it being an ore would be lame

[rotund venture]

I dont have a strong opinion either way

[vivid hemlock]

we have so many ores in progression already having something else would be nice

[rotund venture]

Just kill uliebloom

[misty wren]

and also unholy essence and divine geodes already exist

[vivid hemlock]

yeah that too

[tired adder]

isn't that just... uelibloom?

[rotund venture]

Mid hardmode, not post ml

[pulsar cobalt]

no

uelibloom ur just kinda told its tree bark

its not like u scrape it off a tree

[misty wren]

it also doesnt look that much like tree bark

at least not any tree bark ive seen

[rotund venture]

I think a cool thing for the ulie replacement would be some kind of ash

Cause Goddess of Ash and all

[mental charm]

does anyone know why the nidhogg does no damage

[blazing field]

Iirc there's gonna be profaned armor that you obtain through exploration rather than being ore stuff

dont quote me on this tho

just vaguely remember triangle saying smth about it

might not be final plans, prob just an idea

[dusk bronze]

triangle..

also holy fuck i'm finally unwarned

[blazing field]

Perennial will be bark in the sense its gonna be Wood you get from a Tree

Rather than a ore

Might also come with a jewel?

idrm

so gto craft the gear you'd need that wood + the jewels

[dusk bronze]

perennial jade yeah

[fathom girder]

There should be a post ML meteor

completely unrelated to this providence thing

[vivid hemlock]

what if we broil you

[dusk bronze]

exodium

[blazing field]

yes its called the glupshittium meteor and it spawns the glushittium infection biome

[vivid hemlock]

exodium

[blazing field]

thanks for the fnatastic idea this will be added in 2 seconds

[misty wren]

this already exists i think

[dusty tinsel]

I am replacing all of your atoms with hydrogen

[misty wren]

its from ancients awakened (the old one not the remaster

[dusk bronze]

[dull heart]

haii

[dusk bronze]

helo

did you remove realm ravager yet

[dusty tinsel]

Realm ravager is replacing every drop now

[dusk bronze]

[dusty tinsel]

Even coins

[dull heart]

Fear

[dusty tinsel]

I don't even know what realm ravager is

[dull heart]

gun

[rotund venture]

Triangle has said a great deal of things and I have lost track of which were actual plans and which were just ideas they wanted implemented

[dull heart]

pew pew

[dusty tinsel]

What would happen if it became every drop

Slimes drop only it

[dull heart]

lots of pew pew

[mental charm]

did i miss something about this weapon?

[dusty tinsel]

It's replaces every drop, but it only has a 1 in 1 million drop chance

[dusk bronze]

make it a flamethrower tbh

[dusty tinsel]

If you mine a block you don't get the block

[dull heart]

so

[dusty tinsel]

You get the gun

[rotund venture]

The right click is very good

[dull heart]

has anyone killed a boss via throwing grand dad yet

[fathom girder]

?

[rotund venture]

Throwing grand dad?

[dull heart]

like throwing it as an item on the ground

[mental charm]

what i mean is that in my game whenevr i use it both attacks deal no damage to enemies. cant even hurt bunnies. is this intended🤔

[fathom girder]

that

what

doze does that actually do damage

[dull heart]

yes

[rotund venture]

Sounds like a bug

[fathom girder]

whuh

[dusk bronze]

[fathom girder]

since when has it done that

[dull heart]

it falls really fast and creates a shockwave

Bc it's so heavy

[rotund venture]

Also tf you mean it does that

[fathom girder]

that's amazing

[rotund venture]

How did we not know this until now

[dull heart]

2.1.2 fixes it to make it so it can do it more than once instead of just floating afterwards

Meaning you can design grand dad hoik setups

[fathom girder]

OH THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT

[dull heart]

50 grand dad

[fathom girder]

is it an aoe or is it a specific point

[dull heart]

aoe

[silent chasm]

I can't reforge this item, I'm assuming that's a bug?

[fathom girder]

oh my

Grand dad new meta

[dull heart]

I don't think average dmg items are reforgable

[kindred night]

average damage items cant be reforged

[silent chasm]

Oh wait

Average dmg

[fathom girder]

that aoe should do throwing damage I think

[silent chasm]

tf is this

[dull heart]

It's classless

[fathom girder]

Wait claret cannon is a classless weapon????

[rotund venture]

So I understand why a lil easter egg like that is not on the tooltip

[silent chasm]

A classless gun

[rotund venture]

But maybe like a hint?

[kindred night]

welcome to brainstorm

[fathom girder]

I didn't realize you guys added a post ML classless weapon that's huge actually

that's very huge

[dull heart]

this was #spoilers ed forever ago

[dull heart]

stratus Sphere in question

[fathom girder]

I don't usually care about bloodstone at ALL sorry

[dull heart]

Bloodstone is peak now

(not really)

[fathom girder]

Like I never use bloodstone anythings ever

[rotund venture]

You should they are sick now

[dull heart]

(only claret is peak)

[fathom girder]

claret cannon at least looks very good

[kindred night]

it's classless now?

[dull heart]

yes

[kindred night]

bloodstone has always been peak

[rotund venture]

The magic weapon is also cool wth doze

[kindred night]

uhh blood arrows and that mage staff that shoots beams

[dull heart]

which magic weapon

[kindred night]

the other ones arent peak

[rotund venture]

Weapons*

[dull heart]

Viscera or sanguine flare

[rotund venture]

I liked both a lot in my mage run

[kindred night]

the one that shoots a beam

viscera

[dull heart]

anyway bloodstone ones are pretty cool because of how they work mechanically with blood orbs

but they're otherwise not that interesting

Except claret which is awesome

[kindred night]

that's very cool

[dull heart]

Inflicts Betsy's Curse and Laceration and heals potion cooldown

[mental charm]

what even is this bruh😭 ✌️

[rotund venture]

Dont they all inflict laceration and heal potion cd?

[dull heart]

Do you have guide to critter companionship

[kindred night]

yeah

i think so

[dull heart]

yeah but the others aren't a sidearm

[mental charm]

Nope, but it doesnt only apply to critters, this bug happens with any enemy

[rotund venture]

Fair enough

[kindred night]

ace's high still best ranger weapon

[dull heart]

not true

[sonic quail]

Why did my astral area play music with some lyrics for a bit

[echo pier]

Why were fish finder components removed from desert scourge drops?
No way i'm fishing for several hours to be able to craft a shellphone

[kindred night]

very true

[dull heart]

yes

[desert garnet]

the quests have guaranteed rewards

[sonic quail]

Why did my astral area play music with some lyrics for a bit

[silent chasm]

Contagion with grape bear will say otherwise

[dull heart]

the quests have guaranteed rewards plus there's shimmers

[echo pier]

Like trivialized? you can pick your reward?

[dull heart]

It's not that bad

[dull heart]

No, but guaranteed order

[desert garnet]

^

[dull heart]

Plus we also provided the new bobber reworks

[echo pier]

bobber hook?

[kindred night]

ew

[sonic quail]

Why did my astral area play music with some lyrics for a bit

[kindred night]

can you not aim

[desert garnet]

fishing isnt that bad and it doesnt take much time as people think

[rotund venture]

Tysm for making them accessories and not innate to the fishing poles btw

[silent chasm]

It buffs its dmg like 2 if not more times

[desert garnet]

you just need fishing stuff

[dull heart]

Originally they were innate to the poles but the poles were accessories too

[kindred night]

you just need to get better methinks

[rotund venture]

I just didnt vibe with the little minigames at all

[silent chasm]

It's just one of those weapons that actually benefit from grape bear

[rotund venture]

I actually like the brainless standing still fishing, gives me a little time to chill

[echo pier]

The asgard valor and aegis were too overpowered before, it's good the ankh shield got separated from it
However i wish that in future updates the ankh shield will have it's own path of new upgrades

[rotund venture]

That is in the cards

[echo pier]

the fact that it stops at being an ankh shield is underwhelming

[echo pier]

Oh nice!

[kindred night]

waiter waiter! more dashlop!

[dull heart]

ankh does have one spiritual upgrade

[dusty tinsel]

The minigame is mostly because people complain that fishing sucks all the time

[dull heart]

Shield of the High Ruler

[kindred night]

ew

[arctic cliff]

thats

[dull heart]

L take

[arctic cliff]

the spiritual upgrade to SoC

different thing entirely

[kindred night]

yeah ok you develop the mod but we'll take it from here

[arctic cliff]

aside from also using cobalt shield

thats about it

[rotund venture]

Ye Id say OSC is more similar to ankh shield

[dull heart]

It's an upgrade to both

[arctic cliff]

also

[dull heart]

It literally has all ankh effects

[arctic cliff]

no it just uses cobalt shield

are you sure

hang on

[dull heart]

Yes

[pulsar torrent]

guys how to kill malice dog

[arctic cliff]

pretty sure it didnt say that for some reason

[dull heart]

The entire point the donor wanted was ankh + soc

[fierce hearth]

Multi-hook fishing with the gimmick hooks feels worse than mindless fishing which sucks

[dusty tinsel]

You don't because malice isn't real anymore smh

[tropic jolt]

reduce the enemy health to 0 while keeping yours above 0!

[desert garnet]

dont die and deal enough dmg to make his hp go to 0

[echo pier]

Malice mode is back, you need to create a legendary difficulty world for it

[rotund venture]

Dang yall are mean

[dull heart]

a lot of suffering

[fathom girder]

sideliner detected

[dull heart]

genuinely that's just what it is though

[dusty tinsel]

That's not malice that's just legendary mode

[dull heart]

like there's not really any advice to give

[tropic jolt]

not much advice we can give for malice dog unfortunately

[rotund venture]

#help-advice-read-pins

[dull heart]

You just

[tropic jolt]

dont get hit

piccolo would tell us to DODGE!!!

[pulsar torrent]

fetid emesis is a -900k-1mil hp in adrenaline at beggining phase 2

[dull heart]

the only advice I have right now is also going to be patched out super soon

[young notch]

Dead By Daylight

[echo pier]

Why is it an upgrade of the cobalt shield instead of ankh shield?

[fierce hearth]

Drops a pallet on DoG

[dusk bronze]

elaborate

[echo pier]

Also i don't think it is as powerful as the asgard valor

[dull heart]

Because ankh was in Valor

and now because I don't wanna deal with contacting the donor to change it

[fathom girder]

cuz the donor decided that

[arctic cliff]

wtf

[echo pier]

the master ninja gear's upgrades are comparable to the asgardian line

[dull heart]

Arguably it's better

[young notch]

You replied to the wrong message I’m afraid

[arctic cliff]

i mean it'd make a whole lot more sense to have ankh at this rate

[dull heart]

Like on fishron High Ruler is insane

[sonic quail]

Why did my astral area play music with some lyrics for a bit

[echo pier]

I see

[dull heart]

Easily best choice for fishron

[sonic quail]

and why is my astral tower gone

[fathom girder]

SAYS WHO

what if dropping a pallet on DoG is MY donor item

YOU DON'T KNOW

[dull heart]

High Ruler does a lot of damage, good speed, knockback, debuff immunity

[dull heart]

2.1.2 disables cinnamon roll during malice dog

Because it makes it too easy

[dusk bronze]

literally 1984

[rotund venture]

Cinammon roll?

[dusk bronze]

alcohol that makes every ram deep diver

[dull heart]

I'm also gonna make malice dog phase 4 harder

And make him less meltable

[echo pier]

Does corinth prime's grenade from right click still shreds DoG like crazy?

[dull heart]

No

[echo pier]

So it was patched

alright

[dusk bronze]

corinth prime murdered

[fathom girder]

corinth prime is just as bad as it is in warframe

(worse shotgun in the game)

[sonic quail]

Love when my question gets completely ignored

[dull heart]

none of us know the answer

It's probably an addon

[sonic quail]

my only addon is gensokyo

[dusk bronze]

what even is that

[sonic quail]

touhou

[fierce hearth]

It doesn't spawn on top of the meteor always, and can be down a hole

[dusk bronze]

also sky islands

[rotund venture]

Goodol astral generation

[fathom girder]

It's a star

meteor

thing

it can decide where it wants to go

[rotund venture]

It's sick and bloated

[fathom girder]

it can decide

where it wants to go

[misty wren]

and an ill individual cannot walk?

[rotund venture]

Depends, sometimes they require assistance

Like the Astral require

Help

[sinful dagger]

I thought malice had no new changes

[misty wren]

malice itself doesnt have any

[sinful dagger]

Just legendary stat buff with death ai

[misty wren]

all the changes come from the seed

[rotund venture]

Is there no FTW ai changes anymore?

[misty wren]

there are

[rotund venture]

Death just overrides that?

[misty wren]

no

[dull heart]

no

Malice is the same as Death on a FTW world

just with Legendary's stats

[misty wren]

malice doesnt have any ai changes because the ai changes on ftw and gfb arent locked to any difficulty

[radiant sparrow]

What's the difference between death ai and rev ai?

Just more aggressive?

[misty wren]

depends on the boss

[rotund venture]

Generally yes

Sometimes more minions

[radiant sparrow]

I know that golem does this weird fucking jump in death

[rotund venture]

Tighter patterns

[sinful dagger]

So do Calamity bosses have their own ai / moveset changes in FTW

[misty wren]

yes

[weary harness]

anyone playing multipler have the issues of weapons not working?

[rotund venture]

And those changes remain if you turn on Death mode so its stacked on top?

[misty wren]

for example cryogen has all its phase transitions shifted forwards in the fight, leviathan spawns at the start of leviathan and anahita, stuff like that

[misty wren]

yes

[radiant sparrow]

Leviathan on death wasn't too bad ngl

I then realised I can just murk Levi first and then the fight is ez

[rotund venture]

BoC on Death was great

So was nee dog

[radiant sparrow]

I agree

[rotund venture]

New*

[radiant sparrow]

I haven't fought dog on death mode yet

[unique warren]

Sorry why is Terraprisma still only 68 damage

[hasty tangle]

are you judging weapons by base damage

cuz if you are, stop

[unique warren]

To be fair I don’t see any other changes

It’s 90 in vanilla and I’m struggling to find another difference here

[rotund venture]

Enjoyed the new calcast today

[hasty tangle]

glad you enjoyed it

[radiant sparrow]

What's calcast? I assume it's a Dev discussion of some sort?

[hasty tangle]

kind of

[rotund venture]

Pretty much

[unique warren]

Like it goes from 90 damage in vanilla to 68 in cal and… I don’t see other changes lo

[radiant sparrow]

Anything noteworthy from the most recent about future updates/changes?

[radiant sparrow]

As they said, base damage isn't an accurate description of a weapons real damage

Just like use it on something

[unique warren]

Yes but what is the other change

[radiant sparrow]

Dunno

[hasty tangle]

if you mean cal's plans for the future, i found it interesting that it seems like SSO will not be next update (this is not confirmed)

[unique warren]

If base damage was reduced and nothing else, that is an objective damage decrease

[radiant sparrow]

Nah I'm aware that SSO is not next, they've said that here a couple times

[rotund venture]

Several devs have said here that is is basically confirmed

[dull heart]

That is the difference

Prisma at 90 was viable on Yharon

[hasty tangle]

k wasnt sure if it was just being thrown around or if other devs explicitly confirmed it

[rotund venture]

Faster, smaller updates

[dull heart]

It is confirmed

[hasty tangle]

lets hope that it sticks this time

[unique warren]

Ohhhhh it’s cause cal is silly not cause Terraprisma is silly

Got it

[dull heart]

Ozz said so here

[dull heart]

no it's because Prisma was silly

it's still like the best pre ML summon

[unique warren]

Yeah obviously?

[dull heart]

it's just not viable for

[unique warren]

It’s a challenge item

[dull heart]

the entire rest of the game

[rotund venture]

Also just nice to get a little peak behind the curtain, hear how development is going, stuff like that

[unique warren]

You get it by doing a fight that’s harder than anything else pre-ML so yeah it’s kinda supposed to be the best

[radiant sparrow]

The hard part is that it one shots, the attacks are really well telegraphed and easy to dodge

Empress is a really good fight

[misty wren]

yeah but like

[unique warren]

Yeah, it’s hard but a good fight

[misty wren]

having a better weapon

does not mean said better weapon should be fucking yharon viable

[unique warren]

Yeah that’s a cal issue I will admit

[misty wren]

no thats a terraprisma issue

[unique warren]

It really isn’t?

[radiant sparrow]

Ngl I think the elemental axe(forgot it's current name) should have the same floating animation as prisma or should orbit around you in a circle

[misty wren]

thats not something cal did to prisma it just does that on its own in its vanilla state

[rotund venture]

Yeah cal cant boost the hp on everything just to account for one insane weapon

Better to just make the weapon a little less busted

[unique warren]

Sorry so this just happens to be an issue for Cal and not like, Souls

[radiant sparrow]

Bro

[unique warren]

A little?

[rotund venture]

Fargos souls bosses have

Stupid hp values

[radiant sparrow]

People are literally saying the objective fact here. A ml weapon should not be viable till yharon

Like wtf

[lyric trellis]

Does Empress still have rdr at day or no

[unique warren]

I never said it should be

[radiant sparrow]

Rdr?

[unique warren]

I’m just saying it’s Cal’s fault it is

[hard copper]

She doesnt anymore

[radiant sparrow]

For what? Balancing a weapon?

[deft lily]

everything is cals fault.

every shortcoming ive experienced is cals fault

[hard copper]

At least according to the patch notes

[unique warren]

For having summoner be already generally busted as fuck

[fathom girder]

Calamity ruined gaming

tbh

[deft lily]

this is because they are too woke

[radiant sparrow]

Dude my short sight is cals fault

[deft lily]

and evil

[radiant sparrow]

Calamity killed my dog

[lyric trellis]

Yeah then a nerf makes sense since otherwise you can just use a stronger post-ml weapon and melt her and get a yharon viable weapon

[hard copper]

Reactive damage reduction, if you were killing her too fast she would get increasing damage reduction to compensate, so the fight always lasted like 2 minutes

[misty wren]

yeah because post moon lord souls scales faster than cal

[unique warren]

Like I get what you mean but Terraprisma is just kinda good rn instead of being fantastic pre-ML in cal

Like it’s aight

[sonic quail]

Ok it was hard mode

[rotund venture]

Again, it is one weapon that is wildly unbalanced, and the mod cant give everything a gorillion hp just to account for it

[unique warren]

That’s not at all what I’m saying lmfao

[radiant sparrow]

Then what is your point

[unique warren]

So, previously Terraprisma was a normal drop and had 60 damage

Now it’s 68 damage, to my knowledge no other changes

Other than being from the hardest pre-ML fight

Y’know, small change

[lyric trellis]

I mean it kills ML in under 2 minutes with Kalei (and everything before that even faster) so I think it’s fine idk, maybe a tiny bit too weak at most since it doesn’t probably hold up post-ml at all which is a shame for idk, powerspike

[rotund venture]

Id doesnt need to hold up post nl

[unique warren]

Does it need to not

[hard copper]

I think enraged provi is the only boss with rdr now. That could be removed too tbh because isnt her only unique enraged drop the dye?

[misty wren]

abominationn has more hp than yharon when both are at the "balance point" (eternity for souls, exrev for cal) and eternity only has 3 post moon lord bosses, eridanus abominationn and mutant
which, for reference, the hp values roughly double or more from each post moon lord souls boss to the next

[unique warren]

How much more

[misty wren]

500,000 hp more

so a good 25% ish

[unique warren]

Makes sense

[still bluff]

cal had a massive problem with postML stat bloat in the past where absolutely no items were or could be viable offtier
the flattening helped with that a ton... not long before vanilla added prisma and zenith which were then lategame cal weapons by power

[unique warren]

So you make it so Terraprisma which is an off tier weapon

[rotund venture]

And possession, when the port happens

[unique warren]

Isn’t even good against provi

[still bluff]

prisma gets nerfed to not be viable 4 tiers after you get it, yes

[unique warren]

So empress of light is intended to be post-golem

[misty wren]

yes

[unique warren]

Where are we getting four tiers from

[radiant sparrow]

What is rdr

[sinful dagger]

Ah, should just do something like zenith where you have to use ruinous souls to activate it or something

[hard copper]

@radiant sparrow

[unique warren]

And Enraged empress is not on-tier with post-golem bosses in terms of difficulty

It’s an equipment skip

[still bluff]

yea that's why it's still good on ML lol

[sinful dagger]

Or make it so she can only be fought during the day after Polterghast is defeated

[unique warren]

Okay how about this

[misty wren]

thats singlehandedly the lamest way to do it

[sinful dagger]

Why

[unique warren]

Would you say that vanilla post-ML weapons are intended to be viable on Providence

[hard copper]

I think theyre saying the issue is most people arent doing enraged empress post golem because its really hard, they do it like post cultist or moon lord instead

[unique warren]

Just cause they’re vanilla items doesn’t mean they’re worse

[rotund venture]

Doing daytime empress on tier isnt even that hard btw, literally good mobility and xeno staff are all you need

[unique warren]

And at the post-ML stage it would only be on tier

[misty wren]

depends on the post moon lord weapon but usually
the issue is when it gets to be viable on yharon while still being at the same tier

[unique warren]

Dude as if any cal boss is hard

[misty wren]

you're the one arguing that its hard

[rotund venture]

??? How is that related at all?

[unique warren]

Enraged empress is a vanilla boss

[unique warren]

Sure then just balance it to be a post-ML tier weapon

[rotund venture]

Im just saying, enraged empress is not this high difficulty fight you are saying it is, just a test of preparation and knowledge/muscle memory

[unique warren]

Because that’s how it’s balanced in vanilla

[unique warren]

It’s not the hardest thing ever but it’s harder

[sinful dagger]

Could still have it drop as a dormant version and use later crafting materials to activate it

[radiant sparrow]

That's a silly thing to say

[unique warren]

Okay rude

[misty wren]

that is even more lame

[unique warren]

No need to be a jackass

[radiant sparrow]

????

[still bluff]

post ML in vanilla translates to anywhere between actually post ML and post yharon in cal
weapons are either nerfed or (zenith) actually tiershifted to post yharon lol

[unique warren]

Don’t call my opinions silly

That’s just demeaning

[sinful dagger]

Do you think zenith is lame too?

[misty wren]

this is the same thing that cal used to do with early leviana and it sucked

[unique warren]

To be fair Zenith is The Exception

Isn’t every other one just balanced to pre-prov?

[sinful dagger]

I swear I could recommend something that’s already in the game by accident and someone would call it lame

[rotund venture]

Terraprisma, with 90 base dmg, was also an exception

[unique warren]

Yeah and they overcorrected

Obviously it shouldn’t be 90

But it’s not viable with vanilla post-ml items and that’s not how it should be

[still bluff]

prisma is a weapon you can get post golem, and it's excellent on everything up to ML as a reward for the obtainment
tiering it as directly post ML is just as arbitrary

[misty wren]

so then... where does prisma being overpowered with no changes become a cal issue

[rotund venture]

After ML you can and should switch

[hard copper]

It was already one of the best pre moon lord weapons when it had 60 damage, so 68 seems fine to me.

[rotund venture]

Its a friggin mod, use a modded weapon, experiment

[unique warren]

Why is that

It’s a weapon that you can get with about as much ease post-ML as other post-ML weapons

That’s not a bad thing

[still bluff]

it's a weapon that's harder to get post golem than other post golem weapons, so it's stronger there

[unique warren]

Yes

[misty wren]

an item being easy to get post moon lord is not an argument for why it should be post moon lord in strength btw

[still bluff]

it's just as easy to get as most post DoG weapons when you're post DoG, but it shouldn't be yharon viable

[unique warren]

An item being just as easy to get as other post-ML items and being balanced as post-ML in vanilla is grounds for it in my opinion

[radiant sparrow]

Bro

[unique warren]

And it’s easier to get Terraprisma post-DoG

[radiant sparrow]

It's a pre ml drop and has been balanced as so

[unique warren]

Why is moon lord this important

[radiant sparrow]

It's easy to get terrarprisma post scal so what

[misty wren]

also yeah theres this aspect

[unique warren]

I get it but it’s a tier lock

[dull heart]

moon lord is like wall of flesh 2

[still bluff]

deciding the difficulty of obtainment is incredibly subjective

[dull heart]

that too

[unique warren]

That doesn’t mean that Duke weapons have to be balanced as pre-plantera weapons

[rotund venture]

Alright I feel like this has gone on a little lond and ar rhis point we just gotta agree to disagree and move on, no?

[still bluff]

ML is a massive powerspike, it's very important for balancing whether something goes before or after it

[tropic jolt]

they're both made of cheese

[radiant sparrow]

Aren't duke weapons balanced as pre/post golem?

[unique warren]

Just with none of the world changes, 2 new enemies, and yeah quite a few new bosses

[unique warren]

Post-golem yes

[frozen horizon]

PML should just be called Superhardmode atp.

[unique warren]

They’re balanced with difficulty in mind because obviously

[misty wren]

no

[cunning sequoia]

[misty wren]

we dont need more exxo avalon references

[hard copper]

[radiant sparrow]

How about, we all come to a compromise and have the copper sword be viable all the way to post scal

[wide nova]

i am no longer toothpaste

[unique warren]

[misty wren]

yeah now you're toothierpaste

[rotund venture]

Congrats

[unique warren]

But no because I am genuinely not seeing the argument here

[regal temple]

sonic fans should get Punched in the face

[cunning sequoia]

you're now mouthwash

[unique warren]

Aquatic scourge

[hard copper]

do 10/10 doctors recommend toothierpaste?

[cunning sequoia]

[radiant sparrow]

Why sonic fans?

[unique warren]

Aquatic scourge can be accessed pre-wall

Last I checked

[regal temple]

sonic is shit

and theyre annoying

[wide nova]

listerine color

[radiant sparrow]

Hardmode boss that you can fight pre Hardmode for a challenge

[cunning sequoia]

sonic is pretty cool

[misty wren]

no because jake from down the street likes to be a contrarian >:(

[cunning sequoia]

😁

[unique warren]

What makes that so different

Enraged empress is arguably the hardest fight in vanilla

[regal temple]

anahita too

[radiant sparrow]

difficult fight that takes fucking ages to do vs fight that one shots but damage is good

[rotund venture]

Im sorry pre wof scourge and daytime eol are not comparable in difficulty, scourge is a bad fight, empress is a good fight

[unique warren]

Exactly!

They trade out what’s difficult

[radiant sparrow]

Just cop it on the chin

You're not getting a post ml visible terraprisma as far as I'm aware

[misty wren]

day empress id argue isnt a very good enrage

[unique warren]

Don’t shift the conversation

C’mon, man

[radiant sparrow]

Nuh uh

Everything anyone says flys over your head, what's the point

[regal temple]

day provi vs day empress

[radiant sparrow]

The Devs themselves have explained

[hard copper]

Like 68 sounds like it would be on par with the post moon lord weapons

[misty wren]

was referring to a different message

[misty wren]

specifically this one

[radiant sparrow]

Does enrage provi give anything different to normal provi?

[misty wren]

i dont think enraged eol is a very good enrage the only thing that changes is that she oneshots you now

[misty wren]

dye

[hasty tangle]

some dye

[radiant sparrow]

Eh

[regal temple]

she gives both drops and dye

[hasty tangle]

she gives both drops during the day now too

its literally just the dye now

[radiant sparrow]

Is the dye good or is it moving texture slop

[hard copper]

Its good

[hasty tangle]

i dont love moonlight dye personally

unless they changed it again

[radiant sparrow]

You guys should have a big trophy for enraged provi

[regal temple]

i wish dyes were easier to use honestly

[radiant sparrow]

Make it a little more worth

Ik a mod adds a big scourge head for beating it pre Hardmode

[misty wren]

its a pretty good dye

[radiant sparrow]

Stuff like that is pretty neat

[regal temple]

do you get the glowing stuff in the background?

[radiant sparrow]

Oh wtf

[misty wren]

yes

[radiant sparrow]

Hmmm

[misty wren]

the glowing stuff in the background is the main draw of the dye

[radiant sparrow]

I feel like that would fuck with my focus ngl

[unique warren]

Why are y’all being so rude about me just disagreeing with y’all 😭

Like homie I do understand your points I just disagree calm down

[misty wren]

its just that guy

[unique warren]

Yeah fair enough you’re fine

[dull heart]

hear me out

what if

you could get a sword

it was red

[misty wren]

bad idea

[dull heart]

and viable the whole game bc it scaled

[misty wren]

nah

[unique warren]

Hmmm what if instead

[misty wren]

viable the whole game because its a post yharon weapon

[unique warren]

You could get a red sword

[regal temple]

didnt cal use to have scaling weapons and removed them

[misty wren]

yes

[unique warren]

But it was viable the whole game cause it’s op

And you get it from a name

[radiant sparrow]

That's not me being rude....

[misty wren]

everything scaling except for one item was killed

[unique warren]

Look I’m sorry but you’re saying I’m not listening to y’all

Please do not insult my intelligence 😭

[tropic jolt]

what if there was a 1/10000 drop from normal enemies that had endgame tier dps

[misty wren]

and now the scaling items entire gimmick is that its a scaling item

[unique warren]

Wait huh what is it

I was not aware of this

[misty wren]

community

[unique warren]

Ohhh yeah

I was thinking weapons and forgor

Cause legendary items were mostly weapons

[regal temple]

2 wet farts vs community

[misty wren]

ok but actually you could make the argument for the 2 wet farts

[regal temple]

shattered community is good thou

[misty wren]

because fart in a balloon is good mobility 😭

[radiant sparrow]

What makes the community not great again?

[hasty tangle]

generally theres just better options available

[misty wren]

its stat buffs tend to fall short

[unique warren]

It’s kinda well designed in that way tbf

[dull heart]

community is just fine yeah

[regal temple]

the pains of being too generalist

[unique warren]

It’s just kind of a no thinking accessory that you can use all the way to endgame

[misty wren]

it does a bit of everything but most of that everything isnt necessary and the stuff that is necessary is generally stuff also already covered better by other accessories

[regal temple]

affliction does it better imo

[unique warren]

You can just… never worry about that seventh accessory slot

[regal temple]

polterghast my goat

[unique warren]

Community does kinda beat it in staying power but yeah Affliction goated

[distant raft]

+2 regen but only if your regen is less than zero

[dull heart]

it would beat it in staying power if

[regal temple]

fabsol transformation item when

[dull heart]

you didn't have eveyrhting else

[unique warren]

Like it’s fine enough ig at every single stage ever so you just use the same accessory for a billion years

[hasty tangle]

in negative 9 months

[hard copper]

I think they should add a community shrine, so you can get it pre boss and use it for the whole game

[unique warren]

Sure but you gotta get those things

[misty wren]

itll never be meta but itll probably always be a decent pick

[unique warren]

Community is made for lazy people

[dull heart]

anyway i buffed malice dog again

[regal temple]

so we have it already whaat

[hasty tangle]

had*

[dull heart]

i moved the 2x dmg mult to GFB

[misty wren]

yeah had

[hasty tangle]

thats why i said negative 9 months

[dull heart]

no more melting

[regal temple]

whaat

thats a baby

[misty wren]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Crystal_Heart_Vodka

[unique warren]

Anyways yeah uh idk I think the jump to ML shouldn’t be that much of a restrictor

[unique warren]

Like yeah it’s a jump but it’s not an end all be all

[regal temple]

i wish you could tierskip even harder in calamity

pre provi dog

[distant raft]

you can

[misty wren]

how about pre moon lord scal

[regal temple]

difficult but not impossivle

[misty wren]

i did that last night its really fun

[regal temple]

whaat theres pre provi dog?

[regal temple]

no way no way no way

i gotta try that sometime

[keen zodiac]

its one of the more brutal tasks

[regal temple]

im used to doing pre provi polter

[misty wren]

granted we were also using post yharon weapons because we did pre moon lord yharon too but

[regal temple]

do it every playthrough

but thats probably harder

[distant raft]

if you do polter and everything preml thats like the entire loadout already done

[misty wren]

the alternative was me tonto and optrix using post dog gear while everyone else suffered with pillar weapons

[unique warren]

Yeah like tiers are a myth

Post-ML means nothing

Which means Terraprisma should be post-ML balanced

[misty wren]

god acrobatic bobber bug is so fucking fun

[unique warren]

I should actually check… wait Tsukara is here I can just ask

[unique warren]

You, how does Terraprisma do on Providence this update

[distant raft]

i dont know

[unique warren]

Damn

[distant raft]

probably poorly

like maybe D tier time

[unique warren]

Jesus Christ

No power creep my ass

Best vanilla summon ever reduced to slop

[dull heart]

good

[unique warren]

Why

[misty wren]

if all it takes to sloppify something is for it to no longer be busted out the ass then it was probably slop before

[unique warren]

I’m just asking for some level of provi viability

Like look I get it, it is pre-ML, but it’s also the best summon ever in vanilla it kinda deserves more

[dull heart]

stardust dragon is arguably better at times

[unique warren]

If you limit yourself to three of them then ya

Kinda falls off after 3 whereas terraprisma just… doesn’t

Oh also shout out auric tier Zenith

It’s kinda weird and sometimes I wish cal made it more flashy but also it’s on the same tier as Nadir which is wise

[deft lily]

zenith > murasama

i will die on this hill

fuck the murasama

[unique warren]

Uhhh why?

I will say that cal has too many iconic swords

[earnest jewel]

Daring today, aren't we. What's next, Platinum Shortsword < Night's Edge?

[unique warren]

Murasama, Exo Blade, and AotC

[deft lily]

i just hate how the cal community treats it + its a metal gear reference

[unique warren]

What’s wrong with metal gear?

[earnest jewel]

What did Metal Gear do to you!?

[deft lily]

nothing
its more or less the fact that cal has too many metal gear references

[deep bough]

never played

[unique warren]

Uhhh not really it’s kind of the basis of part of its identity

[deep bough]

🦅

[unique warren]

And it’s really just rising

[deft lily]

and also i heavily dislike how obsessed ppl are with it

like its just a sword lmao

[unique warren]

It really wasn’t tbf

[deft lily]

and honestly it isnt even that good

[unique warren]

The jet stream sam username thing was kinda novel

[radiant sparrow]

baller tho

[unique warren]

Good… ehhhh but novel

[dull heart]

its ok ill make murasama cool

in dcwo

[unique warren]

It’s just that mgrr is so auralicious that it bounces back on cal

Please don’t make it not true melee

[deft lily]

make it cool by removing it thanks

[dull heart]

no

[deft lily]

that or rename it

[dull heart]

sorry i must

but i won't force using the non true melee

[unique warren]

And pls also don’t make it wildly different than it is in MGRR

[dull heart]

sorry i must

[deep bough]

its just a katana

[dull heart]

i must make it as peak and flashy as i can

for the sake of the people stuck with overhaul for murasama reworks

[unique warren]

MGRR IS peak and flashy

[dull heart]

i typed out my DCWO murasama ideas just now

[unique warren]

Give it a parry

It needs a parry damnit

[dull heart]

i still think having the sword be entirely sheathed prehardmode is so funny

bonking them with the sheathed sword

[deep bough]

theres a mod for this

[primal badge]

as long as it's the "flashy but actually strong" kind of flashy and not "flashy but not that strong" kind of flashy :3

[unique warren]

And also not too out there

[dull heart]

ofc its gotta be strong or else it won't dethrone overhaul

[unique warren]

At the end of the day it is just a high frequency blade

[dull heart]

no it's gonna be a little out there specifically on the post dog scaling one

[unique warren]

Sorry wait how is it working again

[dull heart]

the real cal rework idk

the DCWO one i'm making scale like overhaul murasama and unlock new abilities

[unique warren]

What’s DCWO

Also ew

[dull heart]

doze's calamity weapon overhaul

[unique warren]

I see

[deep bough]

overhaul overhaul

[dusk bronze]

silence calamity overhaul enjoyer

[unique warren]

Well, I hope they don’t go too out there for basecal

[frozen horizon]

Murasama is Pre-Yharon whilst Zenith is Post-Yharon vro.

[unique warren]

Give it a cool looking swing, a parry… yeah

[deep bough]

i sure do love calamity overhaul unironically

except the murasama

[earnest jewel]

Come on, we know you're making it up.

[deft lily]

in that sense yeah no shit
i just prefer zenith in general

[unique warren]

Zenith is kinda boring I won’t lie to you

[deft lily]

agree to disagree

[tropic jolt]

my favorite melee weapon is triactis true paladinian hammer of might

[unique warren]

Anyways uh yeah give Murasama a swing, a parry, maybe a lunge

[deep bough]

🥀

[frozen horizon]

It's way less cool now ngl.

[unique warren]

Nah it is cooler but I like the previous sprite better

[tropic jolt]

it was the same as any other endgame melee before

[unique warren]

Not really since the other ones were so unique

And Truactis’… was not lol

[tropic jolt]

late game*

[deep bough]

the murasama rework is actually the only thing i havent used from calhaul because theres too many keys for me to care

[unique warren]

Even then

I mean, Ark

[frozen horizon]

I will say, new TPMHoM does fit in with its downgrades better.

[unique warren]

Bro you don’t have to pretend to like it dw ❤️

[deep bough]

😔

[earnest jewel]

Come on, the mod guts two classes. Are you really saying you never use melee or ranged ever?

[unique warren]

But yeah uh cal is becoming good now even if it has some dubious design philosophy in parts

[tribal isle]

Imagine if your mod gets covered by gameraiders101

[frozen horizon]

Only good thing I can say about this mod is that the spritework is really good.

[dull heart]

wanna see my draft of key abilities of DCWO Murasama

[distant raft]

except for when its put to shit thats completely meaningless and contradicts the mod it claims to overhaul

[tribal isle]

Only reason I ever downloaded it was to beat the game only with the murasama

[distant raft]

you cannot call this repurposed mining equipment

[frozen horizon]

The spritework is still good even if the mod is terrible.

[dull heart]

yes i can

[tribal isle]

But that’s spoilers

[distant raft]

i think murasama should be locked behind a 100% mgrr save

[frozen horizon]

Is that a Soul Seeker mouth?

[tropic jolt]

[dusk bronze]

true

[frozen horizon]

• Jetstream Sam DLC

[deep bough]

i aint ever even used the murasama 💔

[earnest jewel]

I think Murasama should be locked behind having to fight Yharim with no armour while drunk.

[hard copper]

if only we had a calamity spoiler talk...

[tropic jolt]

check your steam profile for stormbringer achievement

[frozen horizon]

No that's how you get the True Tyrant's Ultisword Deluxe Edition.

[tribal isle]

Like the guy from dmc5

[tropic jolt]

if no achievement no murasama 💔

[tropic jolt]

yeah urizen!

[tribal isle]

Yeah

[distant raft]

NEW! Calamity Breathalyzer Attachment! Bundled with every copy of Calamity!

[earnest jewel]

No, that's from poetry. They're talking about the soldier from the level 1.

[dull heart]

and?

[halcyon seal]

Jesus Christ already

[dull heart]

i haven't coded it

i've just been making the concept

[distant raft]

calamity branded items that have no business having anything to do with calamity................ where are you.......

[halcyon seal]

How do you just have ideas and put them down on paper

[tropic jolt]

surely this will not get scope creeped into the stratus sphere

[halcyon seal]

I don’t understand that

[earnest jewel]

Thinking.

[deep bough]

🐟

[frozen horizon]

It would be cool if you get find some of Yharim's old soldiers as rare enemies, or even Traveling Merchants like Skeleton Merchant. (Specifically alive soldiers not undead like the Overloaded Soldier)

[earnest jewel]

I have great news.

Oh wait, not undead.

I have nebulous news.

[tribal isle]

Imagine if there was like a sword that doubled as a gun and if you like pressed the trigger it would push out the sword at like very high speeds

[deep bough]

enchanted sword be like:

[frozen horizon]

Maybe in that update that adds Arsenal Armor.

[simple merlin]

I remember making concepts for Yharmy so long ago

[earnest jewel]

Concept has been considered in the past.

[frozen horizon]

“Yharmy” 🥹

[hard copper]

I think yharmy should drop a horn that summons yharon

[halcyon seal]

Need Draedon schems to unsheath the sword more and more

[dull heart]

you tell me if this is scope creeped yet

DCWO 'sama ability progression

Pre Boss
LC: Bonk
Evil 1
RC: Throw
Hardmode
LC: Bonk -> LC: Slash
3 Mechs
RC: Throw -> RC: Impale
Golem
RC: Parry
Moon Lord
LC: Tachyon Quickdraw
DoG
RC: Illusory Massacre
Yharon
RC: Parry -> RC: Rebuke

bonk and throw remain in the sheath

[earnest jewel]

I don't even want to think about how you would justify a random soldier being able to summon Yharon.

[dull heart]

slash and impale take the sheath off

[tropic jolt]

that seems pretty creepy to me

[halcyon seal]

Tachyon Quickdraw

[simple merlin]

I recall planning it to be a post-ML invasion because it was something to spice up post-ML content, and having multiple variations you could get into so invasions wouldn't get stale

[deep bough]

reminding me of Wynncraft abilities

rc lc combos

[frozen horizon]

What would?

[dull heart]

this one is basicaly an anime teleport dash slash thing

[simple merlin]

yharim army

[halcyon seal]

Why tachyon then

[deep bough]

yharim army event?

[halcyon seal]

Unless you’re like rewinding time

[dull heart]

Tachyons are faster than light particles

[halcyon seal]

I always associate tachyons with time travel stuff

[tribal isle]

So you gotta kill wof only with the bonk and throw or does this murasama rework imply actually using different weapons

[terse dew]

the horse isn't here

😟

[dull heart]

this is just the abilities

[blazing field]

Peter.

[halcyon seal]

Where did the horse go.

[dull heart]

stats may scale seperately

[blazing field]

The horse is here.

[radiant sparrow]

uhm corpus avertor. its not droping like at all

[hard copper]

Not a random soldier, like a general miniboss, like if theyre fucked they can blow the horn to call yharon I guess

[tribal isle]

ahhh

[terse dew]

I am Retep

[dull heart]

i also may add a parry tier 0

[terse dew]

And I am evil

[radiant sparrow]

is my rng jus bad???

[earnest jewel]

It would have to not be a random general.

[arctic cliff]

okay i dunno anything about this but
whatever you do, make the throw instead the sheath gun effect jetstreamsam uses in that one scene

[earnest jewel]

What soldier in any army can just summon the second in command at a whim?

[tropic jolt]

I doubt anybody would have that ability now that the fighting is like

over

mostly

[arctic cliff]

yharon's summon item being instead a horn would go really hard, especially if you made the sound effect really awesome

[earnest jewel]

Yharon is also hiding out with Yharim.

[arctic cliff]

like, give it a really deep but really awesome horn sound effect

[tropic jolt]

one trillion resprites

[arctic cliff]

indeed

[tropic jolt]

what if it was a big chicken sandwich instead

[hard copper]

Yeah, also makes much more sense than the current summoning method

[tropic jolt]

"yharon is enraged by the death of its brother!"

[dull heart]

oh wait true i think

i'll make skeletron unlock Parry, and then Parry upgrade to something before rebuke that can parry projectiles and fires the gun on successful parry

[tribal isle]

Is the in universe army of yharim actually called yharmy

[earnest jewel]

No.

[arctic cliff]

like if you're gonna make an alternative murasama mod to overhaul, ya better do your homework and do one awesome af ability thats an even bigger reference to mgrr

[hard copper]

The general of the army

[arctic cliff]

the more referencing you can fit into that

the more you might get some people in for yer mod

[earnest jewel]

A general who can summon Dragon Himmler at will?

[hard copper]

Yeah

[tribal isle]

Are the m1 slash anims staying the same

[earnest jewel]

And I'm fairly certain armies have multiple generals.

[tropic jolt]

yharim is turning footsteps into electricity with auric tiles

[earnest jewel]

And also it's formally disbanded.

[radiant sparrow]

is my rng this fucking bad????

[arctic cliff]

for some reason im giggling at the idea of nazees using a horn to summon himmler himself

[tropic jolt]

[dull heart]

for LC: Slash

[earnest jewel]

Who is also, inexplicably, an immortal dragon.

[dull heart]

LC: Bonk will be more like Basher

[hard copper]

Which one are you trying to get? Some of those are post provi

[tribal isle]

No I mean are you gonna remake the basecal slash anims or they’re gonna stay the same

[radiant sparrow]

corpus

[dull heart]

yeah they'll stay the same for LC: Slash

[arctic cliff]

no i just imagine himmler as, well, him(mler).

[dull heart]

no reaon to change them plus i couldn't do them better

descriptions of the murasama addon tiers ??

[tropic jolt]

oh deer

[steel pike]

in high school they used to call me the basher

[hard copper]

Yep you can get that, its 5% though

[steel pike]

yeah nvm that reference is old and dry

[arctic cliff]

what's that, Himmler was engaging in racial cleansing, but then some random guy on a submarine for some reason really wants advice from Himmler?

[tropic jolt]

yeah but what does calc stand for again?

[radiant sparrow]

AUUUUUGH ITS SUCH A BORING BOSS

[fiery remnant]

is it normal that the short circuit's m2 doesnt hit through walls?

[radiant sparrow]

i have killed this donnie like 10 times dude

[dull heart]

yes

[earnest jewel]

The Devs yearn to add the Yamato instead of Murasama.

[tropic jolt]

its just that much cooler

[arctic cliff]

fools