when are the devs adding post dog jousing lance
#calamity-update-talk
dull heart
inner timber
saying its dysfunctional implies it doesnt work . it works . it's a good weapon . ?
brittle escarp
It doesn’t benefit from the gimmick of melee, that being weapon attacks speed increases
grim pecan
can we remove the holdout sprite so it just doesn't have a weapon at all
grave geyser
can you make it get ranger reforges so it can get the increased projectile speed while staying melee
vanilla has ale tosser now so theres precedent
boreal edge
when are the devs adding post dog jousing lance
Hi devs
grim pecan
can you make it get ranger reforges so it can get the increased projectile speed...
WAIT YOU'RE TRUE????
inner timber
It doesn’t benefit from the gimmick of melee, that being weapon attacks speed in...
neither does folly's true melee spear
brittle escarp
neither does folly's true melee spear
Then that’s also dumb?
still cobalt
It doesn’t benefit from the gimmick of melee, that being weapon attacks speed in...
Isnt that half of melee
dusk bronze
if it ever gets a serious rework,
i think something similar to astral's end would be cool
inner timber
Then that’s also dumb?
it doesnt need it
brittle escarp
But it benefits from melee size
grim pecan
unreal burning sky is now vanilla adjacent this is the best news i've heard all day
dull heart
It doesn’t benefit from the gimmick of melee, that being weapon attacks speed in...
you say this like more than of melee weapons get melee speed
brittle escarp
Like from the gloves
grave rock
theres a million melee weapons that dont benefit from melee speed
dull heart
also
grave rock
even in vanilla
brittle escarp
Like the melee accessory tree
dull heart
The Burning sky DOES get melee speed
boreal edge
No one was ready for melee Ale Tosser
grave rock
melee sspeed is fuuuuucking weird
boreal edge
Actually that's a lie the donor for Prismatic Breaker was 100% ready for it
still cobalt
Flails dont, yoyos dont, and then all the other special things
brittle escarp
Fine then melee size
grave geyser
reminder that over 70% of melee weapons cannot get legendary because they do not scale with melee speed or size or both
brittle escarp
That’s a better example
misty wren
i guarantee you if you give bsky usestyle1 again people would just forget about bsky because its just star wrath
brittle escarp
Melee size is a better example
still cobalt
I dont think half of melee scales with that either
misty wren
half of the melee weapons ever dont scale with melee size
dull heart
most melee weapons don't get melee size
brittle escarp
That’s why, when I play melee, I play true melee. If I wanted to play a magic weapon, I would play mage
lapis oak
use SoHR so you can dash at them more often
dull heart
it's just Use Style 1 and the weapons i reworked
grave rock
thank u doze
lusty orchid
Man
brittle escarp
Why play the not magic magic weapon that functions like magic in every way except that it’s just not for no reason
lusty orchid
Jsut play whatever’s fun icl
still cobalt
Woman
misty wren
again as i said if you gave bsky usestyle1 i guarantee people just forget about it
lusty orchid
Why play the not magic magic weapon that functions like magic in every way excep...
To play the game
Without worrying about every aspect
brittle escarp
Then play mage?
lusty orchid
?? That makes no sense
brittle escarp
Like that class exists
lusty orchid
God forbid I play melee for the weapons
brittle escarp
If you want the mage experience, why are you playing melee
lusty orchid
Without having someone up my ear saying play mage lmao
still cobalt
Maybe i want to mix my magic like melee weapon with other melee weapons
brittle escarp
No I’m saying they should be shifted around
pulsar crow
Why play the not magic magic weapon that functions like magic in every way excep...
Dragons sky is a meme weapon on how a lot melee weapons aren't really melee
dull heart
every day i realize more and more that i need to make The Burning Sky cost mana
lusty orchid
No I’m saying they should be shifted around
Yeah but it dienst matter this much
brittle escarp
Dragons sky is a meme weapon on how a lot melee weapons aren't really melee
But that’s dumb
boreal edge
Can you make The Burning Sky use rockets as ammo
brittle escarp
Yeah but it dienst matter this much
I also didn’t expect this to be this hot of a take lol
pulsar crow
But that’s dumb
That's the point
brittle escarp
I just think it’s a super interesting discussion from a game design perspective
misty wren
But that’s dumb
you might think its dumb but this is good parody
dull heart
Can you make The Burning Sky use rockets as ammo
only if i can make it work properly with lava and wet rockets
brittle escarp
That's the point
But the thing it memes on is also dumb
boreal edge
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466943505663655937/1083946998614470748/1678391318329531.gif
brittle escarp
Being self aware doesn’t make it good
hard copper
I think burning sky should have a stealth strike
grave geyser
every day i realize more and more that i need to make The Burning Sky cost mana
it would be so funny
and besides
you explicitly made chaos stone give omniclass damage boost
still cobalt
Make burning sky kill all npcs instantly
lusty orchid
I also didn’t expect this to be this hot of a take lol
Nah uts just like
grave rock
burning sky scales off all classes
dull heart
it would be so funny
and besides
you *explicitly* made chaos stone give omnicl...
this is true
lusty orchid
It doesn’t matter that much you can just play true melee or melee
dull heart
i should give burning sky 1 mana cost
lusty orchid
Who cares
lapis oak
Burning Sky should be a complicated weapon then get Focus Flurries
dusk bronze
if it ever gets a serious rework,
i think something similar to astral's end woul...
this has potential i think
lusty orchid
If soemoen says they playing melee like if dienst matter enough to say
Just play make
Mage
brittle escarp
Who cares
I am not saying you shouldn’t play the weapons that are melee. I think that if you like those weapons, then you would like other weapons like them, so they should be grouped together
That’s it
The weapons are still there
You can still play them
It just makes things easier to balance
That is literally it
That’s the whole point
lusty orchid
I agree with whatever doze says
pulsar crow
Give it traits from all classes
Ex. Uses ammo, uses mana, uses minion slots, stealth strike, and a parry
still cobalt
I disagree with whatever doze says
hard copper
Give it traits from all classes
Ex. Uses ammo, uses mana, uses minion slots, ste...
Dont forget tag damage too
grave geyser
It just makes things easier to balance
(it doesnt btw)
dull heart
The Burning Sky should
- summon virid vanguard axes but they're The Burning Sky
- on hit, they consume Mana to summon fireballs from the sky
- if out of mana, they consume any ammo and fire that ammo's projectile instead
still cobalt
Give it traits from all classes
Ex. Uses ammo, uses mana, uses minion slots, ste...
Instead of minion slots it just scales off of summon damage
dull heart
and deal melee
pulsar crow
I was think of that the more slots you have open the more damage it does
still cobalt
I was think of that the more slots you have open the more damage it does
Oh i like that more
brittle escarp
The only purpose of this recategorization is to make accessories and armors easier to make because their gimmick is easier to focus on the weapons that actually work like that. It’s easier to balance, you can make more specialized interactions, it’s better all around, and does not change your choice or player experience at all
grave geyser
The Burning Sky should
- summon virid vanguard axes but they're The Burning Sky
...
no no, it should take the secondary affect of the ammo selected but not actually consume it
misty wren
The only purpose of this recategorization is to make accessories and armors easi...
no, all it does is handfeed people synergies
boreal edge
Make sure Burning Sky is also affected by Grape Beer
still cobalt
The Burning Sky should
- summon virid vanguard axes but they're The Burning Sky
...
Yeah but only if virid applies the poison debuff still
brittle escarp
Also, I do like really gotta go unfortunately
dull heart
Make sure Burning Sky is also affected by Grape Beer
yeah it would bc it could consume arrows/bullets/rockets
lusty orchid
yeah it would bc it could consume arrows/bullets/rockets
Make burning sky crash ur pc
dull heart
Yeah but only if virid applies the poison debuff still
no, it applies Sage Dragonfire instead
boreal edge
Hi ombgus lurker
still cobalt
This is true!
grave geyser
no, it applies Sage Dragonfire instead
found a way to make bsky scale with melee size
still cobalt
Is grape beer even actually like good or jus situational or
grave geyser
Is grape beer even actually like good or jus situational or
its good
misty wren
no, all it does is handfeed people synergies
rather than synergies coming about as a result of similar playstyles being encouraged those synergies come about because well its a melee weapon so you can only use it with melee accessories which function well with it because its melee
lyric trellis
Hi ombgus lurker
Who
misty wren
rather than synergies coming about as a result of similar playstyles being encou...
thats why i like items like warbanner not being class locked anymore, more playstyles can be encouraged
grim pecan
Is grape beer even actually like good or jus situational or
it's good it also gives me a headache as i forever find more stuff that has to be added to the blacklist
grave geyser
thats why i like items like warbanner not being class locked anymore, more plays...
warbanner being allclass now is so nice
grave rock
warbanner isnt classlocked anymore? yipeee
grave geyser
I kinda just wish it was earlier in the game tbh
wispy blade
put it on prehm folly
grave geyser
true...
still cobalt
Put it on post golem
pulsar crow
Maybe a post dog sidegrade? We need more equipment variety postml really
wispy blade
that way you can kill deerclops even faster on tier
misty wren
thats why i like items like warbanner not being class locked anymore, more plays...
if you use warbanner you're incentivized to play very aggressively which makes it synergize very well with weapons that encourage more aggressive playstyles (while still also working for items that dont necessarily explicitly do that)
still cobalt
We could lowk change “sun” in its name to anything and put it anywhere
wispy blade
warbanner of the warbanner
misty wren
its warbanner of the righteous now
still cobalt
Warbanner of the eye and its EoC drop
still cobalt
its warbanner of the righteous now
Ok change righteous
inner timber
warbanner of the schizophrenic (cultust)
pulsar crow
Calamity warbanner class when
wispy blade
make it out of wood and tattered cloth preboss like goblin warbanner
grave geyser
wait peak?
still cobalt
Warbanner of the goblin battle standard
misty wren
if you use warbanner you're incentivized to play very aggressively which makes i...
it doesnt synergize any less with true melee while also allowing other classes its benefit
inner timber
Warbanner of the goblin battle standard
warbanner of the greedy motherfucker
still cobalt
This is true!
still cobalt
it doesnt synergize any less with true melee while also allowing other classes i...
Awesome fan cool accessory to super awesome and super cool
grave rock
ur so right
wispy blade
actually it needs an item in it to make it make sense why it does damage like how vengeful sun staff needs to have moon stone in it for some reason so you should have to use a spiked shackle in the recipe
no other modifier works only spiked
buoyant pulsar
can someone send the image of the fat guy taking a picture of their screen
lapis oak
warbanner of the schizophrenic (cultust)
buoyant pulsar
i need it
dull heart
found a way to make bsky scale with melee size
i could actually do this
make melee size scale the fireballs
very easy
still cobalt
please make bsky great
grave geyser
biiig fireball
still cobalt
can u lock warbanner to crimson worlds
Have to wait for rework eater for corruption to get it
grave rock
i have no particular reason i just dont like the corruption
hard copper
warbanner of crimson worlds
grave rock
corruption worlds get warbanner of the Hog
vivid hemlock
this is u
gray peak
ad mele sujmoner weapon
lapis oak
ad mele sujmoner weapon
it's called whip
gray peak
it's called whip
no minion spawn mele damg
gray peak
wait minions for every class lowk
dull heart
actually it needs an item in it to make it make sense why it does damage like ho...
it needs moon stone bc how else would the sun get eclipsed
pulsar cobalt
solar veil
lapis oak
solar veil
L nerd
dull heart
solar veil
not a moon + too late in progression
wispy blade
if it really has to be a moon item im hoping in 1.4.5 yall just use moonplate bc accessories going into weapons is weird
lapis oak
wtf is moonplate
stuck kite
luminite clearly
lapis oak
what does it look like
wispy blade
shimmer sunplate
lyric trellis
Donor item ass recipe
stuck kite
shimmer sunplate)
pulsar cobalt
not a moon + too late in progression
doesnt vengeful sun alr use mech souls? so itll literally just be one boss
lapis oak
😭
pulsar cobalt
plus solar veil means itd have relevancy outside of rogue,,
wispy blade
if there needs to be a moon in it can yall just add a moon staff or smthn like pre-mech made out of astral mats or something
LMAO
lapis oak
😭
pulsar cobalt
blue moon
what if
we just attached a bomb onto you
and blew you up
huh what about that
also clearly this means saros needs crescent moon in its recipe
grave rock
synergy increased by 100%
rapid tiger
Is there any announcement regarding the release date of version 1.4.5?
dull heart
the orbiting is done by using Sunfury
lapis oak
no way this is just like
grave rock
can yall add a goofy blue moon sunfury ass synergy
lusty acorn
so uh, just got to hard mode earlier this week. i dont think astral mobs are supposed to be dropping the weapons so early
grave rock
who here knew abt hellion flower spear
lean relic
kiri is cal overhaul making astral enemies drop something
lusty acorn
it might be one of my mods? or it probably is a clash of a QOL mod?
grave rock
oh riiiigh is perennial getting nuked eventually?
lusty acorn
i saw yardis play the new update as well and he got astral stuff
lapis oak
kiri is cal overhaul making astral enemies drop something
why me 😭
lusty acorn
oh riiiigh is perennial getting nuked eventually?
why?
lean relic
Because i remember you played once
tropic jolt
what a calamity
dull heart
so uh, just got to hard mode earlier this week. i dont think astral mobs are sup...
boss checklist probably killed aureus for you
boss checklist just Does That a lot
lusty acorn
should i not have boss checklist?
dull heart
use Boss Checklist Lite instead
grave rock
boss checklist just causes a lotta problems lawl
lusty acorn
im still using helpful NPCs lmao
grave rock
not sure why
lusty acorn
and alchemist lite
grave rock
id recommend condensing those down into Prisma's Juicebox, it has most of the qol you'd want from those two w/o the unbalanced stuff
lusty acorn
thank you so much
west ledge
Chat this the method for moon lord?
grave geyser
probably not but go for it
west ledge
Its kinda rhetorical
lean relic
uhh better change the wings but its fine
lean relic
Use RoD
west ledge
RoD too aids to use tho
hard copper
Id use absorber instead of rune and ambrosial instead of heart
main sand
Chat this the method for moon lord?
vanities active or hotswapping them?
main sand
ahh
can't give much advice, I'm a ranger
only thing I can say is stack on dmg so you don't die before he dies
west ledge
Id use absorber instead of rune and ambrosial instead of heart
Even if my teammates running absorber? Thought it'd be weaker if 2 ppl ran it
Im not playing w/ him rn just mainly practicing dodging on ML but I defo need a survivability accessory or two
main sand
btw just finished Scal that was fun
dull heart
Even if my teammates running absorber? Thought it'd be weaker if 2 ppl ran it
it's still good even then bc it gives good other stats besides the aura, plus it makes aura uptime easier
dull heart
rune is very good too tbh
honestly the gear looks like
fine?
hydrothermic armor is my main thought
more defense + the vent does very silly damage
but then you may want to get a dash if you do that
grave geyser
hydrothermic armor is my main thought
got nerfed too hard I fear
grave rock
the horror!
fallow sinew
yo im replaying infernum and idk if im trippin but the game feels way too easy??
fallow sinew
idk i played it a few months ago but this time round it feels way easier
polar tide
i feel like i harp on this way too much but infernum seriously has the most jarring difficulty spike ive ever experienced
polar tide
idk i played it a few months ago but this time round it feels way easier
could also be because after brainstorm a lot of weapons have been reworked to not be horseshit
fallow sinew
its like... not death mode idk
grave geyser
i feel like i harp on this way too much but infernum seriously has the most jarr...
is it really a spike if its consistent post spike
polar tide
it is NOT consistent
fallow sinew
wait im right its legit not death mode anymore
my blood moon is normal
thats so lame
grim pecan
hehehehehehehehe
polar tide
guardians and provi fuck you up sentinels slide off your brain polter is a good challenge and then every boss after old duke makes you feel like you're being skinned alive
grave geyser
hehehehehehehehe
its so peak
polar tide
except yharon
tropic jolt
hehehehehehehehe
polar tide
poor yharon is still the most forgettable of The Big 4 even in infernum
deft lily
guardians and provi fuck you up sentinels slide off your brain polter is a good ...
yeah
infernum DoG is fucking miserable
deft lily
to each their own
fallow sinew
my first playthrough i racked up a ton of attempts
gilded crescent
is there a way to fix the fact that sometimes projectiles arent shooting
fallow sinew
but i can usually nohit him now
granite sapphire
infernum is legit just easy until post moonlord
ngl it's always pretty easy
(except for the always poorly designed exo mechs)
tropic jolt
calamity players after spending 500 attempts on infernum dog
granite sapphire
calamity players after spending 500 attempts on infernum dog
skill issue on their end
Its ramslop
deft lily
i will always be of the opinion that infernum is bad but that goes beyond just the mod itself
polar tide
i was going to start talking about how i feel about infernum dog but then i realzied i would be talking extensively about infernum in calmain and there are so many cooler ways i could be wasting my time
granite sapphire
i will always be of the opinion that infernum is bad but that goes beyond just t...
another win for the unfinished fargos dlc
grave rock
tomorrow is another day
tropic jolt
it will never get better
granite sapphire
tomorrow is another day
tomorrow is a day
fallow sinew
this is lowk so mid i was gonna do an infernum playthrough but since im preboss i'll just do death
why'd they have to nerf ts bruh
fallow sinew
nah its fine
granite sapphire
nah its fine
No not really
fallow sinew
why not
granite sapphire
Inferm obliterates your world gen functionality
Abyss doesn't work at all
Garden doesnt
And some other bs
fallow sinew
hmmm
granite sapphire
(which is why fargos dlc and base cal will be on top)
fallow sinew
infernum is great idk what ur harping on about
granite sapphire
and then inferm also is just M-M-M-MID
fallow sinew
if there is a mod that reverts infernum back to death mode instead of expert
ill just use that
granite sapphire
Nearly All of the bosses after you unlock ornate shield are ramslop
fallow sinew
aight
grave rock
arent infernum stats the same lol
tropic jolt
why do people still use the word slop
granite sapphire
Hell even before
granite sapphire
why do people still use the word slop
I only use it when inferm is mentioned
Because it's just ramspam
fallow sinew
roxy it seems like the new update changed the natural difficulty of infernum from death mode down to expert
tropic jolt
the word means nothing at all
grave rock
roxy it seems like the new update changed the natural difficulty of infernum fro...
does this even change anything
dusk bronze
roxy it seems like the new update changed the natural difficulty of infernum fro...
makes sense
fallow sinew
yes
west ledge
this is my arena
fallow sinew
enemy ai and blood moon are just a few
west ledge
chat is this based
granite sapphire
fargos is projectile slop
If people call Fargo's projectile slop then what's the average undertale mod/Touhou fight
tropic jolt
sentenced to 100 playthroughs of qualityslop
dusk bronze
does this even change anything
for bosses that don't have infernum changes, it defaults to expert now
like astrageldon
fallow sinew
its so sad
grave rock
who gaf
fallow sinew
people who play infernum
granite sapphire
Fake Minecraft players will see terraria and call it funslop ngl
fallow sinew
considering its an addon designed to be much harder than base calamity in a different way
its a pretty big deal i think
west ledge
what are u even on about
granite sapphire
all slop is funslop. to me
what about ai
grave rock
its a pretty big deal i think
no i mean its making an unrelated addon slightly easier
fallow sinew
ok
grave rock
what about ai
have u seen the puffercats
granite sapphire
have u seen the puffercats
No but I can 100% Photoshop it
tropic jolt
one must wonder why infernum was built off of expert mode and not master in the first place
granite sapphire
Anyways midnight chicken noddles to caseoh
tropic jolt
and then realize infernum is actually older than master mode 👴
fallow sinew
im talkin about death mode
not master
pre-update the difficulty went exper -> death -> infernum
now its expert -> infernum or expert -> death
granite sapphire
now its expert -> infernum or expert -> death
science
granite sapphire
death and infernum are independent to each other now
well that just means no death mode scaling, making inferm easier than it already is
and its mind numbingly easy
tropic jolt
calamity fans are famous for their ability to read
grave rock
im just wonderin if the scaling rly means that much
granite sapphire
im just wonderin if the scaling rly means that much
like just a percentage but who cares really
inferm was a joke mod difficulty
grave rock
can u source this
granite sapphire
can u source this
the source is that it's easy
dusk bronze
inferm was a joke mod difficulty
no it is not
granite sapphire
my source
dusk bronze
the source is that it's easy
subjective
granite sapphire
because I think it's stupid easy
fallow sinew
i dont go in the calamity community much but when did it become mainstream to hate infernum
grave geyser
it didnt
dusk bronze
most people don't hate it
grave rock
its only "mainstream" here by a select minority
granite sapphire
i dont go in the calamity community much but when did it become mainstream to ha...
I just think it's too easy
grave rock
most people love infernum to bits
granite sapphire
personally
dusk bronze
i think infernum is
fine
grave geyser
most people love infernum to bits
I wouldnt say that either
grave rock
i havent played infernum so i cant give an opinion
grave geyser
I think the average calamity player is indiferent to infernum
granite sapphire
I think the only good fights are providence and scal
tropic jolt
well you see it gives people a lot of satisfaction to brag about how easy they find it
😁
granite sapphire
because base cal providence is definitely a boss
fallow sinew
and now its been made easier
granite sapphire
well you see it gives people a lot of satisfaction to brag about how easy they f...
I just think people exaggerate about Infernum being hard
fallow sinew
not the bosses, but the rest of the game surrounding it
granite sapphire
It's really not all that
grave geyser
because base cal providence is definitely a boss
basecal provi is fine
deft lily
in terms of the actual mod its unbalanced as hell imo
i love taking 600 damage from one little fire ball in scal fight
dull heart
basecal provi when it's the elusive good fabsol boss
granite sapphire
basecal provi is such a boss
definitely a boss
grave geyser
only like half the attacks feel like actual attacks
nah
the only attack that isnt real is like
globs
dull heart
ash globs suck
grave rock
the other half feels like the moon lord patented random bullshit go
tropic jolt
the strongest ice queen of all time
dull heart
but that's it
granite sapphire
providence is like
grave geyser
the rest at least exist and are mildly threatening
deft lily
outside of the actual mod itself i just hate how polarizing infernum (and with extension, calamity as whole) is
granite sapphire
login reward boss fight
dull heart
the other half feels like the moon lord patented random bullshit go
ngl i feel this on absolutely no attacks
fathom girder
The quality there is so good
deft lily
AoE is the best fight in modded terraria and you cant tell me otherwise
dull heart
her attacks are all organized, patterned, and make sense if you pay attention to them
dull heart
AoE is the best fight in modded terraria and you cant tell me otherwise
invoked stargod:
fathom girder
AoE is the best fight in modded terraria and you cant tell me otherwise
REAL
granite sapphire
Infernum is great but I usually point people towards wotg now
When I do addons I really just like Fargo's dlc, great addon for calamity since it has Fargo's in it
deft lily
invoked stargod:
ok maybe
granite sapphire
Mutant is very hype
grave rock
Infernum is great but I usually point people towards wotg now
i get that but also these are two entirely different experiences
granite sapphire
abominationn is fun
tropic jolt
AoE is the best fight in modded terraria and you cant tell me otherwise
genuinely crazy that they got it to work in multiplayer
fathom girder
Lucille fucken cooked HARD with aoe
tropic jolt
and it doesnt even use subworlds
dull heart
aoe fight revealing my entire map in fullbright is so funny
grave rock
her attacks are all organized, patterned, and make sense if you pay attention to...
maybe im just dumb, they kind've feel like background noise u run away from like moonlord
idk
dull heart
maybe im just dumb, they kind've feel like background noise u run away from like...
you can do that and that's provi's main flaw
deft lily
Lucille fucken cooked HARD with aoe
Lucille is way too good for tmod imo (i know she'll probably see this) ((maybe))
granite sapphire
invoked stargod:
what boss and mod is this
dull heart
she doesnt' stop you just running enough
fallow sinew
might as well start a death mode run, dont really wanna play expert infernum rn lowk
deft lily
a lot of talented people in this community are
dull heart
but provi attacks are very very well built if you just don't rungod
grave geyser
ash globs suck
honestly I thought about it a bit more and I think 90% of provis issues could be resolved if
a. globs were retooled to be the "punish holding one direction" attack
and b. homing flames were slowed down to compensate
fathom girder
Lucille is way too good for tmod imo (i know she'll probably see this) ((maybe))
She is a living legend tbh the stuff she's done is insane
grave rock
im sure if i did nighttime provi, i'd have a greater appreciation for her
deft lily
She is a living legend tbh the stuff she's done is insane
ok the glaze is a bit much there lol but i get what u mean
pulsar cobalt
wat if provis movement wasnt ice queen
granite sapphire
but provi attacks are very very well built if you just don't rungod
I mean... it's left right a few times and then cocoon
fathom girder
Yeah i'm biased
dull heart
honestly I thought about it a bit more and I think 90% of provis issues could be...
i think
- remove globs
- make her less kitable so Holy Inferno stops rungodding
stark pond
idk these talented people probably do ts as a side gig at best ya know
deft lily
idk these talented people probably do ts as a side gig at best ya know
yeah true
grave rock
i just cant find much rhyme or reason to her non coccoon non holy deathray attacks
granite sapphire
Providence is a very repetitive boss imo
arctic cliff
yeah
fallow sinew
im actually interested now if u guys think there is an infernum boss better than basecal
grave rock
plenty
deft lily
im actually interested now if u guys think there is an infernum boss better than...
i liked what they did with polterghast honestly
stark pond
the talented nerds get a good job to do what they like as a side gig regularly, satisfying their inner child
grave rock
lets not go to far, basecal has some utter trash
theres absolutely no way anything in infernum comes close to the worst of what basecal has to offer
deft lily
but honestly infernum being "better" than base cal boss fights isn't a high bar to beat lmao
arctic cliff
im actually interested now if u guys think there is an infernum boss better than...
golem
aquatic scourge
providence (this one is just personal taste)
plaguebringer
leviathan
ravager
granite sapphire
im actually interested now if u guys think there is an infernum boss better than...
Providence, slime god, pbg
arctic cliff
those are what i generally consider pretty much better than their basecal counterparts
granite sapphire
slime god in base cal is the definition of Janky
grave geyser
i think
- remove globs
- make her less kitable so Holy Inferno stops rungodding
I dont think just killing globs outright is the call even if they do essentially need to be ship of thesiused
provis natural movement means that rungodding will always be effective (unless you make her slower at which point I think that will just breed other problems)
so your options are either
a. rework provis movement (probably a good idea long term but also sounds like a pain)
and b. tie rungod punish to the attacks (which leaves globs as the only good candidate)
arctic cliff
honestly i'd rather she'd move differently than just ice queen movement
dull heart
I dont think just killing globs outright is the call even if they do essentially...
i think her movement could just have a timer for turning the other direction alongside a distance from the player
arctic cliff
but at that point, if you're reworking her movement ya might as well rework the fight
fallow sinew
if i make a world without infernum, but then install it and activate it for these bosses for example
dull heart
and cut the holy inferno radius down
fallow sinew
will anthing break
dull heart
so if you kite too long she turns on her own
fallow sinew
aside from like provi and guardians
arctic cliff
also, infernum providence solves this issue by just forcing you to fight her in a specific arena
granite sapphire
honestly i'd rather she'd move differently than just ice queen movement
Better yet, make her always blue/enraged, turn her cocoon into ice, change her fire attacks to icicles
grave rock
make provi spin
grave geyser
i think her movement could just have a timer for turning the other direction al...
problem is she's just
faster than you
the last thing you want is a distance border that kills you for being slightly out of position
deft lily
ultimately im of the opinion that folks need to move on from infernum
like as a community
but that isn't up to me
grave rock
make her move around less
grave rock
ultimately im of the opinion that folks need to move on from infernum
like as a ...
itll naturally happen
granite sapphire
For providence being a goddess, albeit not a very strong one compared to others, she's too easy for our stage
grim pecan
thank you for the wonderful conversation on class identity it inspired me to make this change
tropic jolt
ultimately im of the opinion that folks need to move on from infernum
like as a ...
maybe in 2036 😭
deft lily
maybe in 2036 😭
best case scenario
fallow sinew
i would move from infernum but i find some of basecal bosses kinda just suck a lil bit too much
grave rock
isnt infernum famously not getting updated once any big tier shifts happen
granite sapphire
Post moonlord is supposed to be an achievement, a jump from the end of the beginning to the beginning of the end
dull heart
problem is she's just
faster than you
the last thing you want is a distance bord...
probably slow her down when she's far enough away so you don't get stuck like that
rough vine
tenth anniversary soon?
deft lily
afaik
dull heart
but maybe yeah making globs into anti rungod might be better
tropic jolt
im hoping infernums death comes relatively soon so it doesnt get messed up by updates anymore
arctic cliff
ultimately im of the opinion that folks need to move on from infernum
like as a ...
im gonna probably move on when it, yknow, stops being updated for basecal
which is to say
tropic jolt
im hoping infernums death comes relatively soon so it doesnt get messed up by up...
desert scourge please save us
arctic cliff
we must swap a boss in progression asap
fallow sinew
why has no one taken over and kept it updated?
grave rock
why has no one taken over and kept it updated?
it has
granite sapphire
but maybe yeah making globs into anti rungod might be better
Why not add an Easter egg if you kite her for like a few seconds too long she sends extremely repetitive discord ping noises
deft lily
why has no one taken over and kept it updated?
this has been the case since like 2023
arctic cliff
its pretty much treated as done and done
fallow sinew
i know
grave rock
it would have been dead otherwise, the mod is just done
fallow sinew
but given the changes why do they still declare the mod finished
arctic cliff
but given the changes why do they still declare the mod finished
it means that, there's no new stuff being properly added nor reworks of fights
dont expect infernum dog to get a total rework
granite sapphire
Or like if she's kited and doesn't attack for a long enough period she decreases your damage by 1% every frame
grave rock
infernum king clam !!!!!
grave geyser
but maybe yeah making globs into anti rungod might be better
the thing about globs is that they're always right before a cocoon phase
so they could reasonably be set up to fire predictively ahead of you, create something akin to a projectile wall, and then force you to turn around either during the cocoon phase or after the fact
...which thinking more I'm not 100% sure on the effectiveness of
maybe if she always moves away from the direction she just shot globs towards
grave geyser
do yharon fire pillars <:XD:936106628833488906>
this is the simple but boring solution I think
granite sapphire
instant kill
grave geyser
its a band-aid pretty much
arctic cliff
Providence is a very repetitive boss imo
also yeah (again)
i think providence should have distinct phases ngl
granite sapphire
i think providence should have distinct phases ngl
does she even have phases?
dull heart
is it spoiler time
arctic cliff
like
tropic jolt
is it spoiler time
👀
grave rock
is it me or is guardian phase just easier
grave geyser
is it spoiler time
sunny just did one
tropic jolt
spoil scals new arena
dull heart
yeah but that one is lame
tropic jolt
oh wait
arctic cliff
this is why i used to ultrasuperduperhate astrum aureus for a while
he just
had not much to change
he was ultra boring to fight against
iron dew
but given the changes why do they still declare the mod finished
infernum for all extents and purposes is finished. the only changes it recieves is bug fixes and porting to make sure it works with the latest calamity update, which will stop happening when a major boss progression change is made in calamity itself.
tropic jolt
i think providence should have distinct phases ngl
I think each major cal boss needs the BoC treatment 🙏
grave geyser
i think providence should have distinct phases ngl
I kinda... dont?
I like that she's a constant throughout the fight rather than some multiphase thing, and the increased attack rate means she's still ramping in difficulty
it asks you for consistency where a lot of other bosses just ask you to get through a cycle once
granite sapphire
what if calamity adds silly meter
arctic cliff
I think each major cal boss needs the BoC treatment 🙏
I think each major cal boss needs the BoC treatment 🙏
granite sapphire
like adrenaline but reduces damage
grave rock
would yall consider guardians phase an actual phase (provi)
grave geyser
would yall consider guardians phase an actual phase (provi)
no
granite sapphire
but only fills by 10% when getting hit
tropic jolt
I think each ~~major cal~~ boss needs the BoC treatment 🙏
then we might only get 2 reworks per year!
iron dew
i think every cal dev should fight to the death
what if they fought to the malice instead
granite sapphire
would yall consider guardians phase an actual phase (provi)
no not really
arctic cliff
thats 2 reworks per year
deft lily
what if they fought to the malice instead
😨
grave geyser
after you deal with those then its just provi again
calclone reference
granite sapphire
then we might only get 2 reworks per year!
gotta ring up shein
tropic jolt
the boss reworks are bountiful
granite sapphire
maybe get temu on the line as well
grave rock
dull heart
deft lily
EVIL SMASHER
dull heart
@lapis oak this will get buried
arctic cliff
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093384209378320386/1473913426987188386/T...
LMAO the sounds
grave geyser
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093384209378320386/1473913426987188386/T...
0/10 did not actually break the altar
lyric trellis
True
granite sapphire
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093384209378320386/1473913426987188386/T...
Kachow
grave geyser
oh I see
deft lily
it breaks every block around it
lapis oak
WHAT
grave geyser
its an evil, smasher
not an evil smasher
tropic jolt
smashing of the evil
lapis oak
1 MORE TRUE MELEE
dull heart
its an evil, smasher
not an evil smasher
It's a... Complicated
granite sapphire
embed fail le epica
polar tide
i think every cal dev should fight to the death
@wise bolt our time is now
dull heart
1 MORE TRUE MELEE
About that...
lapis oak
AND APPArebtly DEBUFF???
wise bolt
JUMPS AT YOU
iron dew
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093384209378320386/1473913426987188386/T...
dude thats evil
tropic jolt
morally grey smasher???
deft lily
<@1044686470469910538> our time is now
🍿
granite sapphire
It's a... Complicated
vsauce intro
Or is it
wise bolt
deft lily
i have orchestrated a civil war within cal dev
lapis oak
About that...
Idc about the damage type I meant close range weapon
deft lily
mwahahaha
arctic cliff
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093384209378320386/1473913426987188386/T...
dreglord-pilled
wise bolt
granite sapphire
I'm gonna do the thing guys
dull heart
lyric trellis
1 MORE TRUE MELEE
Wdym it already is, such a great weapon
pulsar cobalt
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093384209378320386/1473913484541427792/i...
oh ok i guess we are doing classless now
granite sapphire
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093384209378320386/1473913484541427792/i...
we need more comically big hammers that aren't thrown
lapis oak
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093384209378320386/1473913484541427792/i...
"Provides inflicts"
dull heart
shush
arctic cliff
okay
polar tide
why buy an expensive matcha cake when you only need four ingredients and a few minutes to make it yourself
arctic cliff
hot take
grave rock
doze u gotta reveal what smashed evil does
dull heart
actually good catch I'll fix
dull heart
Btw this is a spiritual replacement for a removed item
granite sapphire
Make Grand Dad a hammer and give it 10x knockback on right click
lapis oak
Yanmei
arctic cliff
the pwnagehammers should have an alt-fire that lets you swing them true melee style
like, ALL OF THEM
lapis oak
You talked about it while ago
granite sapphire
like, ALL OF THEM
Galaxy Smasher actually smashing galaxys
dull heart
Smashed Evil might be cracked
granite sapphire
-# speaking of why the hell are the only hammer weapons not swing hammers
I wanna freaking like
Hulk smash hammer
grave rock
jackhammer better
granite sapphire
jackhammer better
roadie z
arctic cliff
jackhammer better
bonk this man
fallow sinew
what do guys rate catalyst and hunt of the old god being played with wotg
granite sapphire
what do guys rate catalyst and hunt of the old god being played with wotg
Good
grave rock
bonk this man
dont.
grave rock
fallow sinew
balancing is all in check etc?
grave rock
??
lean relic
?
tropic jolt
balancing is all in check etc?
astrageldon and goozma both give op weapons but its fine
lapis oak
Rdr funny
fallow sinew
ok perf
that's easy to avoid
i was thinking more like if they change requirements for other bosses in a weird way
or gear
grave rock
iirc goozma is just fucken annoying to summon
tropic jolt
nah the only real change is you do goozma before the wotg bosses
and astrageldon before ML ofc
fallow sinew
bussin
dull heart
right now smashed Evil
amber egret
do you mean Evil Smasher
grave rock
am i high or something
smashed evil is the buff it gives
dull heart
on enemies:
- DoT that scales with all damage types
- takes increased damage
On players:
- increased regenTime, damage, and move speed
grave rock
evil smasher makes evil into smashed evil
amber egret
what is Evil Though
grave rock
you!
lapis oak
on enemies:
- DoT that scales with all damage types
- takes increased damage
On...
Hehe I love Debuff
amber egret
:(
dull heart
no
amber egret
on destroyer makes sense but why on cultist
lapis oak
I hate u
lapis oak
on destroyer makes sense but why on cultist
Bro has like 1 HP
atomic bay
on destroyer makes sense but why on cultist
probably the shield
dull heart
on destroyer makes sense but why on cultist
bros a doctor
grave rock
i like how theres two wulfrum furniture sets
amber egret
all three of these replies do not make sense for Evil Smasher's Smashed Evil Debuff to not apply ot Cultist
dull heart
maybe Cultist ain't evil
grave geyser
on enemies:
- DoT that scales with all damage types
- takes increased damage
On...
as in the damage over time scales with your damage%? like an average weapon but with dot?
dull heart
as in the damage over time scales with your damage%? like an average weapon but ...
No as in all debuff types
grave geyser
ah
dull heart
fun fact! Evil Smasher rework is the most unique obtainment method in all of calamity
lapis oak
Whatever you say
grave geyser
you said that about ee when it was being worked on
grave rock
uhhhhhhh purification. or something
amber egret
the demon altar breaking?
amber egret
what is it then
lapis oak
Is it coming with the hotfix
dull heart
involving Satan From The Bible
lean relic
Makes wotg require Goozma to be killed
I wonder when will YuH patched Goozma fight will be added
grave geyser
what
amber egret
is this like
grave geyser
bible is now cannon in calamity mod
grave rock
i think doze brought this up before
amber egret
irony/sarcasm or is this Real
grave rock
stop gassing up ur rework!!!!! (idek if u reworked it)
dull heart
I did
lyric trellis
bible is now cannon in calamity mod
Exorcism is real so that’s not a stretch
grave rock
some god could simply coincidentally use a cross as its symbol smh...
dull heart
irony/sarcasm or is this Real
It is not spoken by Satan but it directly quotes Satan from the bible
lapis oak
Exorcism is real so that’s not a stretch
I'd like to try and use Exorcism on your forehead
The normal attack
grave rock
do we the player see Satan the Bible Guy
his name is NOXUS!!!!
lyric trellis
I'd like to try and use Exorcism on your forehead
Who is this
amber egret
Noxus the Distortion Guy is not Satan the Bible
lapis oak
Who is this
👊
lyric trellis
I’m untouchable sorry
dull heart
his name is NOXUS!!!!
Signus*
dull heart
like iirc signus making deals was literally inspired by John Satan from the bible
amber egret
Noxus the Distortion Guy is kinda like the Beast from the Seals from the Bible
the Guy Of The Pit iirc
grave geyser
john satan is crazy
dull heart
anyway the entire evil smasher story is basically a parallel to the fall of Adam and Eve
amber egret
what do you mean Story
dull heart
that's all
lyric trellis
John satan my cousin
amber egret
is this an Calamity Overhaul type STory
grave rock
facemonster gives you a blood orange
dull heart
what do you mean Story
you'll have to find out
grave geyser
is this an Calamity Overhaul type STory
calhaul has a story?
amber egret
like "oh you have the Items and you use this up to SCal"
amber egret
calhaul has a story?
no but some items want you to use them for the entire game
dull heart
That's not a story that's just progression scaling
grave rock
imagine u get it from shaking trees
dull heart
Not unique enough
amber egret
That's not a story that's just progression scaling
it has feigns at a story
dusk bronze
anyway the entire evil smasher story is basically a parallel to the fall of Adam...
what happened to the rework i haven't seen it in forever
dull heart
shake trees specifically with tin axe
dull heart
what happened to the rework i haven't seen it in forever
I was busy
I just posted spoilers for it
dull heart
Evil calamity:
I have good bosses
amber egret
shimmer a wooden hammer into the Smash, then chisel Acidwood with the Smash to get the Evil Sma, then finally take the Evil Sma and throw it onto Burnt Honey Blocks
for the Evil Smasher
dull heart
Close!
grave rock
facemonsters gives u a fruit
dull heart
I'm wondering how well new players will find evil smasher
grave rock
famous characer facemonster
dull heart
I actually think it'll be easier for a new player to find than a veteran cal player
amber egret
is the acquisition of Evil Smasher! mutlistage or single staged
amber egret
so post wof
grave rock
throw vile powder at a pwunhammer
amber egret
im tryna remember what things you can do at specifically post wof
that are Cool and Vanilla
dull heart
I actually think it'll be easier for a new player to find than a veteran cal pla...
Well, unless the veteran is trying to get old evil smasher
then they might
grave rock
die to altar
pulsar cobalt
breaking altars makes the thing talk to you
amber egret
Wait A Second You Might Be Right
pulsar cobalt
which starts the quest
amber egret
breaking an altar with the Not Pwnhammer
pulsar cobalt
no an experienced terraria player would be able to stumble onto it but not a cal player
grave rock
then blood crawler gives you the forbidden fruit
amber egret
what does cal do that terraria doesnt.....
pulsar cobalt
heres my thought
lapis oak
As in new to cal but experienced vanilla
What does Vanilla Vet do that Cal vet don't
amber egret
yeah...
pulsar cobalt
cal players would just zerg to get souls of night, so even if they knew about altars not giving ores and instead give souls theyd do that instead
lapis oak
Smashing Altar for ore???
grave rock
smth to do with the altar spawned wraiths?
amber egret
i do that for Souls though
pulsar cobalt
but someone who has played only vanilla might not release they changed how hm ores work
grave rock
i always break altars theyre free souls
dull heart
I never said a cal veteran won't do it, just that they're probably less likely than a vanilla vet cal newbie
amber egret
can we like
20 questions it
except not so many its like 10
since 20 narrows it down a Lot
lapis oak
It's clearly u talking about smashing Altars
But since u said it's no longer the obtainment
U mean something will happen if we go to the Altar?
Why no one talking
amber egret
is it isaac
dull heart
idk anything about issac
amber egret
we gotta bring Piggy to the Altar and Sacrifice it
grave rock
break altar then go to the underworld
lapis oak
What 😭
dull heart
oh
grave rock
dont call me stupid!!! ill cry!!!
dull heart
It's ok they just said tupid
amber egret
God spoke to (i thiiink) Abraham and said "to prove your faith to me, bring your son Isaac to the top of the tallest mountain." he did so, since he followed God, and at the top, God said "in the name of God, build an altar and sacrifice your son to me." Abraham set up the altar put Isaac there and then an Angel said "stop! you've proven your faith enough!"
they sacrificed a Goat instead
lapis oak
😭
lapis oak
The cut situation is crazy
dull heart
It does not involve sacrifice of any critters
deft lily
im going to remove the underworld out of spite for the wall of flesh
grave rock
does it involve the breaking of an altar
deft lily
fuck his home
arctic cliff
hey
grave geyser
It does not involve sacrifice of any critters
what the fuck
no fun allowed with this weapon smh
dull heart
it's really funny to me how close but how far y'all have gotten
arctic cliff
crackpot ideas guy here, i got a crackpot idea
amber egret
so many ideas coagulate
dull heart
Like you've made 3 or so different guesses that put together you'd have it
amber egret
we dont have revision is the issue
grave rock
kill wraiths spawned by breaking altars using the pwunhammer
dusk bronze
amber egret
like we have so much Information to give but nothing to Refine it
arctic cliff
crackpot idea: hallowed altar
its basically an upgrade to the evil biome altars, but made with hallowed bars and probably the mech souls
you user it for i dunno
dusk bronze
whar
dull heart
whar
arctic cliff
i told ya im crackpot ideas guy
dull heart
does it involve the breaking of an altar
no
amber egret
hmmmmm okay
dusk bronze
post ml upgrade to the extractinator
luminite extractinator 🔥 🔥 🔥
amber egret
players trying to get the original evil smasher would break altars, but they'd also have to go to the crimson
or corruption
arctic cliff
crackpot idea: hallowed altar
its basically an upgrade to the evil biome altars,...
okay now that i think about it, this would be a decent spot to get an artificial altar
amber egret
it cant be tree shaking right
dusk bronze
lmao
arctic cliff
like a lot of artificial altars from the mods i have just craft it post-evil boss
amber egret
it cant be hitting evil trees with anti evil hammer
arctic cliff
but yeah
grave rock
will facemonster assist us in obtaining it in any way
dull heart
hammers can't shake trees
arctic cliff
guys.
arctic cliff
the evil biomes have evil weapons that try to attack you
lapis oak
will facemonster assist us in obtaining it in any way
So Corruption just fucked? 😭
arctic cliff
the evil biomes have evil weapons that try to attack you
obviously, you bludgeon them to death with the pwnhammer
lapis oak
Wow so mean
arctic cliff
and you get the evil smasher from that
pulsar cobalt
the evil biomes have evil weapons that try to attack you
dont they only spawn in the caverns
dusk bronze
i think you need to reevaluate
dull heart
I hope the patrons that know the answer to this are finding this as enjoyable as I am
amber egret
you swing the anti-evil hammer at the evil trees and it bonks it
dusk bronze
I hope the patrons that know the answer to this are finding this as enjoyable as...
absolutely
amber egret
i COULD pay 50 bucks to see the answer
deft lily
hmm lemme read back
amber egret
but i am a cheapskate
grim pecan
evil smasher in 50$
grave rock
if it involves the shimmer ill get so mad
dull heart
pulsar cobalt
its in cosmilite chat
arctic cliff
i COULD pay 50 bucks to see the answer
BRAINSTORM 2.1.2 FOR $50
dull heart
Evil Smasher for $25
grave rock
shimmer feels like a copout so i trust its not it
grim pecan
oh god not this again
lapis oak
its in cosmilite chat
How would you know
dusk bronze
How would you know
that's where development updates are
pulsar cobalt
How would you know
doze just reacted with 20
dusk bronze
it tells you
dusk bronze
doze just reacted with 20
no i did
dull heart
that wasn't me
pulsar cobalt
o ok
amber egret
not Mining
pulsar cobalt
xzier stop sabotaging
lapis oak
doze just reacted with 20
Ok Patron I can smell you
pulsar cobalt
kills you
lapis oak
Smh
pulsar cobalt
Ok Patron I can smell you
im not a patron
amber egret
not Tree Bonking?
grave rock
evil smasher as a name strikes me that ud have to do something like purification or the like
arctic cliff
okay this one is boutta be a real stretch
amber egret
im not 100 if tree tapping is a unique method
amber egret
shimmer a pwnhammer?? thats not unique though
grave rock
anyway i'm going back to asking grok to compliment me
can u send grok's answer to "how to obtain the reworked evil smasher in terraria calamity mod"
amber egret
a lotta items can be Shimmered
dull heart
those who know
This is so funny
pulsar cobalt
spill the beans umbara
grim pecan
that would be funny but i'm not asking grok for anything as long as i'm alive, even as a joke
dusk bronze
doze who zoze
deft lily
true
amber egret
okay can you like Refine our search
arctic cliff
AHAH
amber egret
like just Barely
arctic cliff
this one is the most stretched possible guess
grave rock
im being used as entertainment for the wealthy
amber egret
you dont like being a court jester
deft lily
im being used as entertainment for the wealthy
i am NOT rich
amber egret
i get dental
arctic cliff
you must obtain the Borderlands 2 gun, the Evil Smasher, in order to obtain the Evil Smasher in Calamity 2.1.2
deft lily
pulsar cobalt
wat if
grim pecan
can you just tell them that you have to drop it off a sky lake onto exactly 31 block of crimsand (not stone) already
dusk bronze
unique obtainment
arctic cliff
okay
amber egret
when you say "story arc", does irl time have to actually progress for it to be done or can you make it instantly if all the requirements are by the starting location
deft lily
LMAO
grave rock
borderlands wiki isnt helping
arctic cliff
Purify the evil floating weapon
deft lily
this is fucking hilarious
dull heart
it's so funny
pulsar cobalt
natural structure in the natural corruption and crimson? idfk
arctic cliff
im willing to be the clown, yknow
arctic cliff
theres a damn reason i asked for my nickname to be that
pulsar cobalt
natural structure in the natural corruption and crimson? idfk
like in the underground where you cant miss it if ur going there to break altars
amber egret
the undergroudn with altars isnt deep enough for purified weapons though
or for hellish weapons
dull heart
I obtained evil smasher in the room of the video I sent
amber egret
WHAT VIDEO
dull heart
Just before recording it
pulsar cobalt
and it opens up im hm
dusk bronze
I obtained evil smasher in the room of the video I sent
are you gonna say anything about that one guess
hidden belfry
cry about it, peasant
"I'm wealthy!" Ahh statement 😭
dull heart
The video of evil smasher
arctic cliff
Smash a crimson heart with a pwnhammer
amber egret
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093384209378320386/1473913426987188386/T...
^ this?
dull heart
are you gonna say anything about that one guess
they got very close but didn't get it, they've actually guessed that one twice now
dull heart
they got very close but didn't get it, they've actually guessed that one twice n...
Well, assuming we talking about the same one
amber egret
you got it in the crimson room?
pulsar cobalt
break a bucnh of evil tiles in hm idk
amber egret
did you kill an evil enemy with the pwnhammer?
arctic cliff
could be it
pulsar cobalt
that would be like
dull heart
no sacrificing of any NPCs
pulsar cobalt
really difficult to do
amber egret
no killing of npcs.....????????
dusk bronze
pulsar cobalt
ok
grave rock
most unique obtainment method my ass
deft lily
LOL
amber egret
the breaking altar method was already really unique though..
grave rock
plant a tree or smth
pulsar cobalt
is there something uniquely generated for it
dusk bronze
what is with you people and evil trees
grave rock
its dozes fault
deft lily
they are evil
grave rock
for bringing up adam and eve
amber egret
okay so
no npc must die
found in the underground evil biome but NOT the cavern evil biome
has a unique acquisition method
has, in some way, a story arc involving Adam, Eve, and the Satan
deft lily
this is because i said so
dull heart
specifically a quote from Satan
arctic cliff
where