#calamity-update-talk

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civic gulch
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and it basically required zero moving to kill him

night pivot
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guys is the golden rod now unavailable in pre hard mode? i tried killing the angler with trasher but the rod doesnt drop

tropic jolt
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if you want infinite money just use cheat sheet

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same thing

wary crest
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Smth smth calamity anti qol or whatever Reddit says these days

cobalt wharf
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golden rod is prehm normally

white garnet
cobalt wharf
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angler gives it after like 25 quests

hollow harness
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just do 30 quests you'll be fine

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25 quests is bottomless water bucket

civic gulch
night pivot
wary crest
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I could’ve sworn golden was 50
Maybe that’s vanilla

hollow harness
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false

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Golden Fishing Rod in vanilla is 30 quests and it is a guaranteed drop

wary crest
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You know what, it was 50 absolutely ages ago
They changed it to 30 in 1.3, and I honestly haven’t gone for it since outside of thrasher stacking

hollow harness
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yea it was 50 quests prior to 1.3

rancid pagoda
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if you're upset at golden fishing rod not being free you shouldn't even be fishing in the first place

hollow harness
deft lily
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quiet part said out loud ‼️

vivid thicket
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master mode is harder than revengeance?

fathom girder
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what's your modlist

rancid pagoda
night pivot
rancid pagoda
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59% pickaxe power

white garnet
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is there an infinite money glitch with npcs?

deft lily
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theres still ways to obtain hellstone and tier skip but revear shark is not the way anymore

deft lily
hollow harness
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All roads lead to fishing

deft lily
white garnet
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alr so ig i gotta download the cheat sheet

deft lily
cobalt wharf
night pivot
rancid pagoda
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get obsidian rose from imps or flame waker boots from lava fishing crates to shimmer into hellstone

rancid pagoda
hollow harness
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gold/platinum pickaxe powers really

cobalt wharf
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i do believe it’s a bit faster than platinum and gold now

rancid pagoda
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wulfrum drill is fast

hollow harness
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The best is bone pickaxe right

rancid pagoda
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then you get bone pick

distant agate
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can i please request the ability to turn down summons transparency in a future update or something

deft lily
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I think all pickaxes should be 59% pickaxe power

night pivot
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ooh

distant agate
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im really struggling to like, see bosses attacks

deft lily
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that way they are all equally as worthless

rancid pagoda
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fossil pick is worthless still

deft lily
rancid pagoda
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it is not bad in vanilla, calamity made it bad

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by buffing other picks and nerfing fossil for no reason

night pivot
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soooooooo which pick am i better off with, just started my run

cobalt wharf
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kill all calamity tool changes

rancid pagoda
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wulfrum drill

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greatbay pickaxe from desert scourge

night pivot
rancid pagoda
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well, wulfrum drill won't be able to mine obsidian and stuff

night pivot
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ah fair enough. Thank you very much for ur time!

fathom girder
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I think that's enough if you get more than one ashen chest

dull heart
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Hi

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Polarizer is dead

fathom girder
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:(

dull heart
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"dead"

fathom girder
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was the lifesteal nerfed

dull heart
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(1.5 to 1.75x lifesteal cooldown multiplier)

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Effectively 8 to 6.2 HP/s

fathom girder
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okay that's nbd

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it'll still be a staple with chaos stone :D

dull heart
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Batholith is the real murder victim

fathom girder
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I wouldn't be surprised if the damage was halved

dull heart
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45 to 20 effective DPS

fathom girder
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WHEW

dull heart
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20 is almost definitely too high still but

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it's a lot more balanced

fathom girder
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that thing made prehm way too easy so I'm not surprised

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wof crumbled to that accessory alone lul

main estuary
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too bad i finished both my ranger and mage runs 😔

dull heart
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it's okay I nerfed every class

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black glass 12.4 to 8 effective dps

main estuary
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ok

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does rogue still have aura

fathom girder
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Rogue permanently has aura now

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cuz those consumables are no longer consumable babyyyyyyyyyyyyy

verbal oasis
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is it my pc if the worm bosses are lagging on calamity?

dull heart
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2.1.2 patch notes
-100% rogue aura

fathom girder
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO

main estuary
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how will i be able to make plantera wilt?

dull heart
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in other news

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Summoner meta may be ranger

fathom girder
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does anyone else smell toast

zealous saddle
dull heart
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scions curio

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Irradiated+100% to +175%

fathom girder
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curio got a buff?

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ooooo

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why's that summoner related tho

dull heart
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viral sprout

fathom girder
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bwuh

dull heart
unique warren
fathom girder
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I'm confused

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you're confusing me

vale lodge
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How to find the roxcalibur shrine

dull heart
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Right now scions curio makes irradiated+175% instead of +100%

fathom girder
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alright

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is it not supposed to be 175

dull heart
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but only when hitting enemies with ranged weapons

fathom girder
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riught

dull heart
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meaning shooting with a gun makes viral sprout sage poison do more damage

fathom girder
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um

zealous saddle
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what?

unique warren
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That would be a ranger meta

fathom girder
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alright you lost me there

unique warren
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Not a summoner meta

fathom girder
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sage poison is a sickness debuff not irradiation

rancid pagoda
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it's okay, we just need 1.4.5 whips to bring summoner back to being op

fathom girder
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is it an oversight or is that just

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a thing

dull heart
fathom girder
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I wasn't aware irradiated was a support debuff for sickness effects

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das neat

main estuary
dull heart
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Anyway

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Want an actual probable meta for exoa

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Virid Vanguard

fathom girder
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Virid vanguard amalgam scion's I assume

dull heart
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swap to kaleidoscope immediately on using the active to get the tag buff

unique warren
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Don't a fuckton of things cause irradiated tho

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Including Nuclear Fuel Rod wires

dull heart
fathom girder
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ogey

main estuary
fathom girder
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wait what about corrosive spine

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cuz that buffs sickness damage and also makes all attacks apply irradiated

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idr if amalgam applies irradiated or not

unique warren
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Used to, no longer does

fathom girder
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My ranger build should use amalgam corrosive spine scion's curio

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I think

unique warren
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A bit redundant

grave geyser
dull heart
fathom girder
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that 25% boost from spine probably is inconsequential at that stage

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alright

dull heart
fathom girder
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question is

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is the 25% boost multiplicative or additive

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cuz if it's just a 325% boost then that's bleh

unique warren
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Now what happens if you use that build

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Then you add Souls DLC ori enchant clueless

fathom girder
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I'd need too many accessory slots for that

grave geyser
unique warren
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lo

grave geyser
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everything other than innate debuff weaknesses and resistences is additive

unique warren
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Anyways would there be anything noteworthy with a build like that that isn't class mixed slop

fathom girder
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really it's just showcasing the relevance of debuffs in current calamity

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like you can absolutely invest in debuffs and perform well now

unique warren
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Very peam

distant agate
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can you please make an option that lets minions turn semi-transparent please?

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i cant see shit

unique warren
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I am having difficulty finding a good way to for like, the scal stage of the game

grave geyser
distant agate
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"you" being any dev that sees this lol

grave geyser
fathom girder
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making the most out of debuffs requires a lot of swapping

unique warren
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Hm, let me attempt to go all in on one debuff type

dull heart
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Virid Vanguard

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That'll be your best debuffer on scal for sure

fathom girder
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the fact that scal's shield can be hit with debuffs but lunatic cultist's shield can't implies something for powerscaling

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what does lunatic cultist know that scal doesn't

grave zephyr
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Are some of DoG's new lines ultrakill references or am I reading too much into it?

fathom girder
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it's just him being edgy pretty sure

unique warren
dull heart
indigo wraith
fathom girder
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And scal burnt an entire city

grave zephyr
dull heart
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okay maybe that one was

fathom girder
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yet you can set her on fire

dull heart
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I don't remember bc I didn't write them

dull heart
fathom girder
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...yeah but

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...but

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...um

unique warren
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Ok so I think a good ranger build would be using Dragon's Breath and Cleansing Blaze

fathom girder
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the stratus flamethrower is pretty cool too

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pretty sure

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just for stacking starbursts

unique warren
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Since Cleansing Blaze inflicts the debuff for fucking 20 seconds

fathom girder
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and then chuck the stratus gladius on there for the actual voidfrost application

unique warren
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Well that's not ranger is it

fathom girder
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no but voidfromst

unique warren
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Yeah but not ranger

dull heart
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Halley's would be good to use for the little bit of voidfrost

fathom girder
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you could just m2 with the flamethrower ig yeah

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it's just not as long of a duration

dull heart
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It can have 100% voidfrost uptime when actively using it

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if you never miss ofc

fathom girder
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it's hard to miss scal

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so I think it's a fine addition

dull heart
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If you allow stratus sphere

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then Halley's would do even better

unique warren
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Sphere is fine ya

fathom girder
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nebula orb thing 2

dull heart
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ngl I considered making all Stratus weapons average dmg at one point

fathom girder
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I could see that being a thing

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what if you made that a toggle for them

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or would that be too op to have a choice

dull heart
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Way too hard to balance

distant raft
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sure it can come along to the title screen too

dull heart
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does it stay once the title loads

distant raft
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like other effects it disappears after a few seconds

hasty tangle
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i noticed that as well

dull heart
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it should disappear as soon as the main screen loads guh

hasty tangle
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some effect stay onscreen afterwards

distant raft
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ive only ever seen this with backgrounds and monoliths

tropic jolt
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stratus is too powerful

urban star
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is cal vanities an addon like wotg or is it an offical calamity mod

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if that makes sense

fathom girder
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I'd be down for them all to be average damage tbh

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it'd lead in well to a potential future stratus armor set

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or an accessory that interacts with average damage in some fashion

deft lily
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me thinks

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afaik the only endorsed cal addon is vcmm thus far

urban star
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oh ok

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if thats the case then u should make proper vanity sets and stuff using the rock from boss rush, no point making weapons but i feel like if u do boss rush a few times u deserve a good reward

dull heart
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y'all ever like

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dream about realm ravager

urban star
fathom girder
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ravager's gun drop

deft lily
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very strange

dull heart
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Realm ravager was in my dreams last night

fathom girder
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you could say it

urban star
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ive dreamt about a calamity run without ravager and it was amazing

fathom girder
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ravaged the dream realm

deft lily
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explode

dull heart
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idk why it was in my dreams tho

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Like

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I finished your lie in April and cried for half an hour until I passed out

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and then realm ravager showed up in my dreams

deft lily
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why did u lie in April bro

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thats messed up

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-# idk what that is i assume its a show or something

dull heart
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yeah it's an anime

deft lily
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I see

dull heart
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never has media hit me that hard though

deft lily
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realm ravager saw ur pain and came to help you clearly

dull heart
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my dream was about trying to nerf it

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it had a debuff that removed like 20 defense and made summons broken as heck

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but I couldn't find it in the code

deft lily
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lmao

fathom girder
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musta been added in the green needle update

dull heart
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all I found was a line that was like

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if (realmRavager && false) {
//Dream code idk what it said
}
fathom girder
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dream code

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idk why that's funny to me

desert garnet
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they just need to dream what they want it to be

steel ivy
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ty for answers to my question all ❤️

fathom girder
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my realm ravager would be a legendary weapon

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drops from slimes at a 1% chance

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scales for every boss killed

honest trail
urban star
desert garnet
honest trail
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ah

dull heart
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and this is actually less than it did before lol

honest trail
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did you rebalanced that? lol

dull heart
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yes

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it was a nightmare weapon before

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It could get over 360k DPS if you were lucky enough with ONE of them

honest trail
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i agree that before is stupid

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It didn't matter how many slots you had

urban star
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ty

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looks cool

urban star
dull heart
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?

urban star
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like does one do boss, one does rework etc or do yous all just do anything

dull heart
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no

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nobody is assigned to specific types of content

urban star
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so yous just work on anything for the mod pretty much

honest trail
dull heart
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Sure

honest trail
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Did you buff the spider staff?

dull heart
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yeah I accidentally buffed it way too much

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I need to nerf that

honest trail
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good thx

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This was the thing I was most curious about in this patch

honest trail
granite sapphire
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Been a while, finally playing this after ages

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Stkll gotta beat providence sadly

boreal quarry
# dull heart Sure

Will y’all do something about that one melee weapon that drops from Yharon that behaves like a magic weapon

unique warren
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Please do lmfao

boreal quarry
dull heart
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No I'll let it stay melee dmg

boreal quarry
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Make sense

thorny nacelle
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I just heard that SSO isn't coming out for a loooooong while.

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Will anything in the mod be overhauled anytime soon?

honest trail
# dull heart Sure

I was just going to ask one thing, but after hearing your answer, I got really curious about something else. Can I ask one last question?

dull heart
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sure

honest trail
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did you rebalanced raven and sand sharknado?

dull heart
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No

honest trail
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okay thx

tribal isle
dull heart
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play roots too

boreal quarry
# dull heart sure

I would like to ask how far in development is the sunken sea overhaul at ?

dull heart
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sunken sea overhaul isn't necessarily even the next update

gleaming hatch
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true

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could be those hot looking new UIs

boreal quarry
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Wait really? What is the next update

honest trail
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As a Summoner-only player, this patch is really great. Performance has improved significantly, and the weak spots have been reinforced.

torn cairn
honest trail
torn cairn
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alright

earnest jewel
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Goblin Army Goblinification update, clearly. Adding more goblins, making goblins more goblin, and replacing all worms with goblins who are also worms.

hollow seal
torn cairn
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just incase you were asking for sso as in the big major update with all the reworks and stuff and not just a sunken sea overhaul (literally)

earnest jewel
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What.

honest trail
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The performance of these two weapons is just overwhelming.

gleaming hatch
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the fact that u can cruise thru hardmode on a pre mech and pre plantera weapon

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summoner eating good as always

vivid hemlock
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@still bluff we are buffing snapthorn in your name

gleaming hatch
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while on the topic of whips

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what are ppls balance philsophies on summoner power frontloaded on whips or accessories

honest trail
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Turning to the Minions, these weapons simply deliver overwhelming performance.

unique warren
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How do I fuckin get rid of alcohols

desert garnet
earnest jewel
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Nurse?

wary crest
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Or die?

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If it’s just the buff dying should delete it

honest trail
rocky kestrel
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SHPC how charge?

honest trail
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I'm definitely not saying this just because I'm a Summoner user.

gleaming hatch
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its all good lmao im a summoner player

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i approve

honest trail
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Oh, you're a Summoner user?

hard copper
gleaming hatch
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op class

honest trail
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Summoner really needs a base critical strike.

gleaming hatch
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i lowkey wouldnt mind losing power on minions and shifting it to whips

unique warren
deft lily
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unrealistic!!!1!1!

hasty tangle
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@dull heart was the bugged star beam rye a 26x multiplier or a 2.6x multiplier with phantasmal fury?

honest trail
fathom girder
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It was a 1900x damage buff

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:D

hard copper
dull heart
fathom girder
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Oh

hasty tangle
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k just wanted to make sure

fathom girder
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Idk where I got 1900 from

dull heart
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as a float

hasty tangle
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thanks

honest trail
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Even so, other classes can't hold a candle to it.

fathom girder
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spider staff sweep

dull heart
honest trail
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Therefore, how quickly the Summoner could defeat the Aquatic Scourge was a crucial factor.

dull heart
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Deepsea was great and not hard to get

gleaming hatch
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think b4 this update i just went for ice claspers to rush aquatic scourge

dull heart
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But yes

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It was mostly just deepsea

gleaming hatch
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and let deepsea staff carry

hard copper
fathom girder
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AS is a pre wof boss

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change my mind

honest trail
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But now there's no need to worry about it anymore.

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Simply following the boss checklist sequence delivered overwhelming performance.

fathom girder
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that's CRINGE

cobalt wharf
dull heart
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yes

gleaming hatch
cobalt wharf
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xdd

fathom girder
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lole

dull heart
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I should just remove one of the extra updates from spiders

high scaffold
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I wonder if there are more elemental weapons changes in the worls

granite sapphire
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Genuinely dont know what's the best post prov summon set

dull heart
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like minion?

granite sapphire
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Whether I got all stabber or dragon and stabber

dull heart
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between Virid Vanguard and stabber

granite sapphire
dull heart
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Virid Vanguard is better with optimizing play

honest trail
granite sapphire
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Would stabber benefit from the stardust cell?

dull heart
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But stabber easjer

high scaffold
gleaming hatch
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virid vanguard has a mini zenith atk attached to it every 5 seconds

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kinda funny

dull heart
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That's why they are moon lord viable

hasty tangle
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who made the new title screen art btw? i cant seem to find it

fathom girder
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which is pretty swag

high scaffold
dull heart
gleaming hatch
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holysht

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goated call name

dull heart
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I cooked

gleaming hatch
fathom girder
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OH I THOUGHT THAT WAS FOR PHOTON RIPPER

granite sapphire
fathom girder
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Okay that explains why it doing work against exos raised an eyebrow

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lmao

honest trail
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frame?

dull heart
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I'll probably roll that down to 2x

honest trail
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ah that mean lol

dull heart
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but haven't decided yet

honest trail
dull heart
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it'll still have use

gleaming hatch
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itll prob still be fine at earlier stages

honest trail
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Reducing damage or tick rate

dull heart
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I'll be very good for early hardmode

granite sapphire
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Wait why hasnt anyone ever made a broodmother staff for post prov or polter

dull heart
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like before bosses

honest trail
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just shimmering that

granite sapphire
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that is epic

honest trail
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ah

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lol sorry

gleaming hatch
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polters not even gunna be a bug thingy in the future

amber egret
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bug thingy?

granite sapphire
gleaming hatch
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not theme relevant

granite sapphire
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Dungeon is spooky

honest trail
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i was think

fathom girder
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yeah but if I shove a bunch of revenant souls into a spider it should be a spider but MORE

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y'know

granite sapphire
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And broodmother is spooky spider

amber egret
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it never really reminded me of a bug its kinda just Knockoff P2 Plantera

dull heart
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Dragonblood disgorger is definitely NOT a time waste

high scaffold
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Is nucleosynthesis getting reworked in the next update because having such a beautiful resprite without a proper rework is kinda stupid tbh

honest trail
green steeple
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what did old star beam rye do?

gleaming hatch
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ethereal subjugator is good enough for me

dull heart
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It provides a lot of healing

gleaming hatch
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true me tank summoner

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immortal

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and dps

hasty tangle
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do you mean old as in, 2.1.0

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or pre 2.1

green steeple
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I saw phantasmal fury doing 15x damage

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and i want it

amber egret
dull heart
hasty tangle
honest trail
amber egret
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im so fucking smart

green steeple
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how do i downgrade the mod?

amber egret
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Github

green steeple
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sick.

amber egret
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Jitgub

dull heart
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build it from an old GitHub

gleaming hatch
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i just never swap off of lunar armors until i beat dog to keep the minion slots

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if that cost is important to u

amber egret
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PML Ore Armor :)

high scaffold
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I absolutely love new elemental weapons sprites they are so amazing cant wait to see how currently not resprited weapons will look in the future

honest trail
dull heart
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What bug

amber egret
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bug ?

fathom girder
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the bug where it does too much damage

honest trail
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This thing is way more powerful than I thought.

amber egret
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yeah that happens

fathom girder
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lmao

gleaming hatch
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canonically accurate

dull heart
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saros isn't bugged

gleaming hatch
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hollow knight weapon op

amber egret
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are you using the gigabeam

honest trail
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can use items

dull heart
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like I've tested that one pretty thoroughly iirc

amber egret
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if you're using hte gigabeam and its hurting really really bad then Yeah thats the Point

honest trail
dull heart
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what is the bug with it

honest trail
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critical beamu

dull heart
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Oh this one yeah I know that one

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Haven't fixed it yet

honest trail
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that is so powerfull lol

gleaming hatch
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holy perma beams

honest trail
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Speaking of bugs, the only downside for Summoners in this patch is the minion despawn bug.

dull heart
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Should be fixed in 2.1.2

honest trail
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Is there also a bug where you can't despawn from the buff slot?

dull heart
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It's the same bug actually

honest trail
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really? cruel

gleaming hatch
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think its safe to assume the 1.4.5 whips are gunna be hard nerfed when they hit the game right

dull heart
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no

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we have no idea what 1.4.5 summoner balancing in cal is gonna look like

honest trail
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Actually, there aren't many items with better performance than the existing ones.

gleaming hatch
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is it cuz of the no whipstacking

dull heart
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no

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Calamity already removes whip stacking

cobalt wharf
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testing could start now that fabled stats are known tbh

gleaming hatch
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the more u know wokeGe

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think i remembered seeing discussion a while back of how kaliedescope is great as is into post ML

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and the new whips just look like

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better kaleidoscopes

cobalt wharf
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that’s mostly because vanilla nerfed kalei

rancid pagoda
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it's easier for going forward if vanilla whips are not modified as much as they are now

gleaming hatch
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say no more

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ready to smack providence with squid tentacle whip

fathom girder
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Yeah vanilla did what the devs wanted to do basically

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Lil

dull heart
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like we'll probably remove DR from bosses almost entirely

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at least non-conditional DR

loud salmon
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yo bro, did u find anything about this? been having the same issue with my friend, every boss until now felt weirdly easy and now skeletron only spawned with 2 hands even tho we in death mode

lean brook
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is something wrong with death mode on multiplayer every boss seems to be far too easy and skeletron only had 2 arms

loud salmon
#

brain of chutulu was only doing 1 dmg with his eyes, queen bee and perforator were easy too

tropic jolt
lean brook
dull heart
tropic jolt
#

the new update generally nerfed both the player and the bosses but the pre hardmode bosses got hit a bit too hard leading them to be pretty easy even in death

lean brook
#

kk

dull heart
tropic jolt
#

they'll probably be made more difficult in the next update

lyric trellis
fierce hearth
#

Man why did y'all even add base DR to bosses?

granite sapphire
#

gee fucking gee

fierce hearth
#

I know the answer but like what was the reasoning

granite sapphire
#

I love this fight sm

fierce hearth
#

Bc there's very few instances of DR piercing , it serves no purpose but to artificially inflate enemy hp in a way that the player has no way of meaningfully interacting with

rotund venture
#

🐴

fierce hearth
#

Again, I know why, I just wish I could peer through that skull and parse the logic

fierce hearth
#

SAD How many times must I restate that I know why...

dull heart
#

I believe fabsol specifically wanted calamity to balance off from vanilla as a way to be hostile to crossmod

cunning sequoia
#

bro hated all mods except avalon

fierce hearth
#

Look crossmodding is weird anyway but c'mon man

#

(this is a joke) the ark of the ancients should be post-aureus because it trivializes the fight to a point that it's easier than KS

dull heart
#

true don't crossmod just play roots

solemn crest
#

This is true

dull heart
#

And also go watch cosmic princess kaguya

tropic jolt
#

download ALL the mods

solemn crest
lyric trellis
tropic jolt
#

calamity fargos thorium fables tremor spirit polarities sots spooky mod AND RUN THEM ALL AT ONCE!!!!

warm hazel
fierce hearth
dull heart
amber furnace
#

I forgot how peak calamity summoner class is

dull heart
cunning sequoia
dull heart
warm hazel
solemn crest
dull heart
#

cosmic Princess Kaguya is a negative L

warm hazel
#

Ok since i'm here

amber furnace
warm hazel
#

someone tell me i'm not crazy and that some of the OSTs got changed

fierce hearth
#

Genshin is an L not because it's weeb shit but because it's a casino with no monetary payout

dull heart
#

y'know what is really peak about calamity summoner

polar tide
warm hazel
cunning sequoia
dull heart
amber furnace
solemn crest
dull heart
#

(no bias)

polar tide
#

likely story Roasted from the calamity mod discord

fierce hearth
#

Hey Doze can you break the knees of another early pre-hm summon

tropic jolt
#

I think doze might be biased

cunning sequoia
#

rivals sounded fun on paper when i first heard of it but apparently its just sweat hell

#

and that already pushed me away from overwatch when it released so

tropic jolt
fierce hearth
#

No

dusk bronze
#

no

cunning sequoia
#

true

solemn crest
#

Why that image so big wtf

fierce hearth
#

Doze I need you to hurt the wulfrum controller

solemn crest
fierce hearth
#

(excluding damage it's just a superior brittle star)

cunning sequoia
#

whats the point of having a bajillion characters if people just play the same 3 or 4

dull heart
#

The defense doesn't do anything sometimes

fierce hearth
#

Lmao?

#

LMAAO

#

Make that baseline. 25% chance to give 3 defense on every hit

solemn crest
dull heart
#

Proof:

celest glen
dull heart
#
  • Virid Vanguard and downgrades
  • Saros Possession and downgrades
  • caustic croaker
celest glen
#

you have been chosen

granite sapphire
#

Fearmonger makes everything fodder

amber furnace
#

the characters are cool

solemn crest
#

Their Halloween event was pretty good tbh

fierce hearth
#

The thing is if WC gets fixed it is just 1 minion slot is almost a warding band of regeneration

granite sapphire
#

Just beat yharon in 3 minutes, felt like 2 tho

#

First attempts my beloved

dull heart
#

Yeah I'm planning on just removing WC defense

#

Leave it just regen and repair for rover drive

granite sapphire
#

I don't speak in abbreviations often

#

Also I'm not chronically on this game anymore

fierce hearth
#

Wulfrum controller

granite sapphire
#

Oh that thingymabob

fierce hearth
#

Yea rn you can toggle them (even with the weap unequipped) for a band of regeneration's healing and 3 defense per drone

granite sapphire
#

They should add a true melee weapon where you're just screaming at the enemy

#

Barbarian style

fierce hearth
#

Meaning the 3 slots you get for bewitched and summon pot give you more than an ironskin pot and almost as much as a regen pot

lone bone
#

has desert scourge resprite happened yet?

granite sapphire
solemn crest
#

Wait did wc get a buff or something or is it just tweakin for some reason?

fierce hearth
#

It's being changed a lot when that does eventually happen, new sprite does not work with current fight and current fight stays until SSO

dull heart
#

eh

#

current fight stays until we finish it

fierce hearth
granite sapphire
#

I thought the lesbian flowers spawn in right after yharon dies

solemn crest
fierce hearth
#

Yes, hence the plan to nerf it just like brittle star got nerfed

solemn crest
#

but the robo buddies

rotund venture
granite sapphire
#

Found the lesbian flowers

fierce hearth
#

Hey 1.5 hp/sec for the sole opportunity cost of your support minions that were doing 30% less damage and gaining very few if any damage boosts from your equipment is actually still pretty alright

astral vapor
#

I wish there was an upgraded Marnite gear, i love building using it but i keep getting bodied by enemies

granite sapphire
#

1.5hp/sec is like a whole 90 health in a 1 minute fight

fierce hearth
#

Until they get their armor removed, the dark sun ring is straight up one of the best defensive accessories in the game

#

Bc of the 2 bonus wulfrum drones

craggy wagon
dull heart
fierce hearth
#

Hmmm that makes sense

dull heart
#

we'll do DS when we do DS

dull heart
fierce hearth
solemn crest
#

I’m doing this while on the clock I didn’t have the luxury to do any digging for the new sprite

granite sapphire
#

Marionette and Lesbians or Saros' Possession for scal?

#

Saros' and Lesbians

craggy wagon
dull heart
#

Might be better pure Saros than Saros + Lillies

fierce hearth
#

But lesbians...

dull heart
#

Bc Saros gets more value the more slots it has

#

idk tho

granite sapphire
#

No lesbians sigh

strange cargo
#

I did yharon, marionette, and mirror and did fine

granite sapphire
#

Lesbians post gsme though

dull heart
#

Lesbians might still be worth it

#

I genuinely don't know

distant agate
#

what summoner weapon should i use for Dog?

dull heart
#

Could just do one Marionette, Lesbians, and then Saros the rest

#

cover your bases

granite sapphire
strange cargo
#

Lesbians? How have they had me in the game and I didn’t know?

distant agate
#

the dazzling stabber isnt cutting it

dull heart
strange cargo
distant agate
#

ty

granite sapphire
#

Did perfectly

dull heart
#

Virid Vanguard is my choice personally

#

But Sirius is great especially paired with Stratus Sphere

fierce hearth
#

Biased :>

granite sapphire
#

Though of course I'm using catalyst so

dull heart
#

how

#

I literally did both Sirius and Virid

fierce hearth
#

Oh

dull heart
#

Actually

fierce hearth
dull heart
#

One Sirius rest Virid might be ideal

#

idk

#

Sirius is a good one slot minion due to quasar not scaling with slots

fierce hearth
#

Last night I watched someone beat BH DoG with just vanilla gear using sentry spam

dull heart
#

Lunar Portal go brr

fierce hearth
#

Fr

distant agate
#

sphere*

dull heart
#

a great item

#

pairs amazing with Sirius bc it doubles the quasar output rate

distant agate
#

huh, ty

raw falcon
#

you can also right click it to make a shield for yourself, I believe, but that costs starburst instead

dull heart
#

Well, it doesn't cost starburst to make but the shield consumes starbursts instead of you taking dmg

fierce hearth
#

My favorite flavor is lemon

dull heart
#

I think I need to nerf and buff Sirius both

royal kraken
#

why did all the cool like little substats off of some of the pre hardmode armor + wings get slashed from the mod?

dull heart
fierce hearth
#

Some metal armors had useless gimmicks or were overtuned, wings were already incredibly good and effectively necessary so they don't deserve to give you things that aren't flight

dull heart
#

Yeah and then ore armors were just

#

Super overtuned

#

We kept them having gimmicks as set bonuses

royal kraken
#

i thought it was just cool they had that

dull heart
#

it meant there was usually just one objectively best wing

#

at almost every stage

brittle escarp
#

RIP steampunk wings

dull heart
#

It hurt build variety more than helped it

royal kraken
#

oh, okay, i'll just use pre-update ver then for a bit i suppose

fierce hearth
#

Man the hills some people will die on

#

I need a BH DoG truther

cunning sequoia
#

there are plenty don't you worry

harsh plume
#

evening yall. has the disappearing summons been fixed yet?

brittle escarp
#

Does anyone know if the phsophorescent gauntlets are true melee?

harsh plume
#

or any info on the cause?

distant agate
#

a dev here said they have maybe fixed it but the patch isnt up yet

brittle escarp
#

Yo, that’s so sick

cunning sequoia
#

about as true melee as it gets

brittle escarp
#

Doing a true melee run rn and I am so hype for those

dull heart
#

Not 100% sure bc I could never replicate it myself

#

But the likely fix will be soon in 2.1.2

brittle escarp
#

I really like all the true melee weapons that bounce you off the boss so you can get in and get out

distant agate
#

ive not ran into that bug until earlier today when stormweaver suddenly started taking way way way less damage lol

tropic isle
#

yo, i dont know if this is the correct channel to talk about this but how can i fight desert scourge?

distant agate
dull heart
distant agate
#

that seemed to consistently cause it

dull heart
#

While having the game open

brittle escarp
#

You can find them in desert chests or via crafting

distant agate
tropic isle
dull heart
#

Hmm

#

Anyway I believe I have solved it

#

Or at least part of it

mystic eagle
brittle escarp
dull heart
#

If it comes back in 2.1.2 I'll be entirely lost as to what caused it

brittle escarp
#

I found like 3 in an hour

tropic isle
mystic eagle
#

There we have it.

tropic isle
#

damn

#

soo how do i find the summon

tropic isle
#

ty

#

vm

#

!

brittle escarp
#

What additional mods actually work? Calamity overhaul is a meme, things like catalyst haven’t been updated in ages, idk anything about fables, and stars above crashed every 5-15 minutes

distant raft
#

catalyst got an update today

brittle escarp
#

Oh wait really?

distant raft
brittle escarp
#

Huh

#

Nevermind then

craggy wagon
distant raft
#

it also got an update on the 6th

distant raft
brittle escarp
#

Oh it’s the astrogeldon mod

#

I forgor. It used to just be a few little tweaks to like crafting trees last time I used it

unique warren
#

Estrogen mod,,,

grave rock
#

hi all!

fierce hearth
#

Hiya

#

Estrogen mod

grave rock
#

im back from work
my fukcing legs

fierce hearth
#

I just went on a walk to the grocery store and bought latino pastries

grave rock
#

nice

unique warren
#

I hope the devs make Temporal Umbrella more interesting

#

Both its components were just made super interesting and it just... isn't

granite sapphire
#

Summoner is pretty cool now

#

I love the new sun spirit line

harsh plume
#

me and my wife and my friend were able to reproduce the bug there 100% of the times we tried, in dedicated server and in hosted MP

dull heart
#

Yeah two players definitely would cause what I fixed

#

100% will work better now in MP

harsh plume
#

awesome!

#

eagerly waiting for 2.1.2 then!

dawn oracle
#

Is atrociously uncomfortable darkness effect in the abyss a new thing from the Brainstorm update?

fiery spruce
#

Hey does anyone know why warding doesn’t scale anymore? Did they nerf it?

hasty tangle
fiery spruce
#

Oh, gotcha

silk basin
#

Death mode is much more palatable now, where 2 mistakes doesn't mean you're dead

amber furnace
silk basin
#

On that note, this new Ravager fight is pissing me off lmao

grave rock
amber furnace
silk basin
#

I'm so confused on what the strategy is for when the ceiling pillars start

#

If I try to stay close as per usual I get boxed in like a fish

#

Trying to fly away means I get beamed by a flying pillar

dawn oracle
dull heart
#

you can use some gear to ease the darkness

#

Check pins here

granite sapphire
#

Time for the rogue playthrough yipe

#

Ive been waiting for this

dull heart
#

Notably, thermal and void torches, mining helmet, night vision potion, shine potion

#

All easy to get and help a lot

fierce hearth
#

I'm about to toe up against Death Golem, and am def doing melee bc of the proximity of the fight, any tips? I think the Ark might be the best weapon but if anyone else knows something with comparable damage that's a little safer, I'm all ears

dawn oracle
fierce hearth
#

(I have beaten Aureus and Levi)

hollow lava
#

is my whole world turning winter intended? im confused.

granite sapphire
#

lol

hollow lava
#

whyd it turn all winter tho?

dull heart
granite sapphire
dull heart
hollow lava
#

oh you have a point

#

thats a super cool add on

distant agate
#

is the mirror of kalandra worth using?

dull heart
#

haha get it

#

because it's cold

distant agate
#

also am i going insane or is that a poe reference

silk basin
hollow lava
#

😭

hollow lava
#

theres a lot of ref

fierce hearth
grave rock
hollow lava
#

you have a point though

amber furnace
#

i hope someone makes a mod that adds icons for all 1.4.5 secret seeds

hushed hazel
hollow lava
#

🤦‍♂️

#

but thanks

distant agate
#

does the nucleogenesis stack with the other stasis items?

hasty tangle
#

it doesnt stack with its downgrades

distant agate
#

ty

hasty tangle
#

as in, anything that goes into any part of making it

#

other stuff that gives minion* slots does still stack though

distant agate
#

ok, ignoring my armour bc i havent gone to upgrade it yet, how are my accessories looking for pre-yharon

hasty tangle
#

silva wings

brittle escarp
#

I personally prefer using straight wings for Yharon over boots

distant agate
#

hmm ok

brittle escarp
#

I also really like chalice of the blood god for this fight, but I also get hit a lot

distant agate
#

what about my other ones

#

also silva armour or fearmonger armour?

brittle escarp
#

I will admit, I am not very familiar with summoner

brittle escarp
#

am I thinking of an older version?

dull heart
#

it does not

brittle escarp
#

oh

#

oop

#

ignore that

hasty tangle
#

the way you said "but" made it seemed like you were implying chalice was bad cuz you were getting hit a lot

#

i was just confused by your wording

brittle escarp
#

Oh I just meant that if oyu don't get hit, you don't need defense accessories

hasty tangle
brittle escarp
#

I just run them because skill issue

hasty tangle
#

oh

brittle escarp
wise bolt
amber furnace
wise bolt
#

.1 calorie

fathom girder
grave geyser
#

@sturdy thistle @dull heart it is done.

fathom girder
#

yes

fathom girder
grave geyser
dull heart
grave geyser
#

no idea
probably a mix of everything
had a good ares end, good micro, sphere might've helped but idk how much

dull heart
#

this is heartreach right

grave geyser
#

yes

halcyon seal
dull heart
#

so probably a pretty good amount

grave geyser
distant agate
#

ok what are the best summon weapons to use for yharon

dull heart
#

i need to make sure my player HP graph shows bleed on it too

dull heart
brittle escarp
#

Why was the warbanner of the sun reworked? I feel like it filled in a lot of gaps in the power of true melee, and now both applies to everyone and is about 1/4 as strong

distant agate
#

yea i thought it might be, ty

dull heart
#

for the record

brittle escarp
#

OH

#

that will do it

dull heart
#

also the dmg it deals on its own

brittle escarp
#

Is that a lot? I assumed it was more of a "kill trash mobs/adds" ability

dull heart
#

it's a good amount of contrib

brittle escarp
#

Oh, nice

#

that is a lot cooler than a flat 60% bonus

dull heart
#

also

#

old warbanner never even got the 60%

#

unless you literally were inside the enemy

brittle escarp
#

Wasnt it 20% melee, 20% true melee, 20% attack speed?

#

oh I see

dull heart
#

like

distant agate
#

me thinks minions need a speed buff in general

brittle escarp
#

so maybe like 18-18-18?

dull heart
#

holy collider edge of range got like 20% dmg 10% speed

brittle escarp
#

Oh, it was a hard falloff

distant agate
#

the stabber staff is still out performing many much later game minions just bc its able to consistently apply its max dps

dull heart
#

yes it fell off hard

#

lemme find the image

thorny nacelle
#

When can we expect Calamity to add their own whips?

dull heart
#

it wasn't even 20%

#

it was 17%

dull heart
#

lol

thorny nacelle
polar tide
dull heart
wise bolt
thorny nacelle
#

This mod is not gonna be finished this decade...

atomic bay
#

use catalyst for whips true

earnest jewel
#

Hey, it'll only be like, 8 years.

dull heart
brittle escarp
#

I would rather have to wait another 10 years and everything be excellent

#

Plz add my boy Yharim tho. Bro has been waiting off screen for 11 years 😔

earnest jewel
#

Yharim is final main update.

#

And the mod isn't even 10 years old yet.

vivid hemlock
brittle escarp
#

I thought it started in like 2015 or 2016, no?

#

near 1.3

fathom girder
#

Yharim is a ragebait word

vivid hemlock
#

like everything else coming before him is way more interesting to me

lapis oak
#

1 Wulfrum Controller is 1 Invigorating guys use it

#

it's so fucking awesome

sinful dagger
#

What are the untouchable, dead inside, defiled soul, and hollow roles

fathom girder
#

"when yharim" pushes the whole nonsense that cal is trying to avoid now

#

bosses aren't the ONLY thing y'know

brittle escarp
#

Well yeah, of course. I just want more character stuff and lore, more than the boss fight

brittle escarp
#

I think he is a cool character

dusk bronze
#

roles are no longer obtainable

sturdy thistle
brittle escarp
#

Like how draedon being added gave us so much more lore

earnest jewel
fathom girder
#

unfortunately draedon sucks

sinful dagger
#

What nohit does hollow refer to

fathom girder
#

well exos sucks but

steel pike
#

leaked 2026

brittle escarp
#

lol

tropic jolt
#

😱

steel pike
#

yep…

#

scary

distant agate
#

just first tried yharon with the stabber from provenence lol

#

this thing is like, way too good

#

actually its not too good the other summons are just too slow to compete

steel pike
#

Devourer of gods like based on the theme music and the name alone I always felt like it should’ve been like one of the final bosses

hard copper
brittle escarp
steel pike
#

True but like

#

I mean I though DoG was like an infinity ultron level threat or something

#

Like some universe collapsing eldritch force of nature

earnest jewel
#

Draedon is the Ultron.

steel pike
#

True

earnest jewel
#

And he can't remotely threaten a universe.

brittle escarp
#

Also, why is providence so much weaker than DoG? Like if he is so much stronger, why not just nom

earnest jewel
#

He can barely threaten you.

brittle escarp
#

like why wait

steel pike
earnest jewel
earnest jewel
#

And she runs away.

steel pike
brittle escarp
#

Right but she gets stat checked by DoG

earnest jewel
#

It's her whole thing.

earnest jewel