calamity-update-talk

[rose laurel]

My idea would be to like

[grave geyser]

it was 33% smh

[rotund venture]

her entire kit doesn't need rework though

[rose laurel]

Make so Providence fires the crystals and they slowly fall towards you, making so they linger for the next attack

[rotund venture]

she needs polishing

not a full rework

[fathom girder]

I'm referring to the rungodding parts of her fight

not the cocoon phases

[grave geyser]

this is litterally just what night prov crystals is

[fathom girder]

yes dork

[still bluff]

2 attacks are fine and good
Her entire movement and base kit needs a retool and the cocoons might stay if they still work

[rose laurel]

You can fly through the rain as quickly as possible, or dodge the next attack with them if you aren't fast enough

[raw falcon]

Also how do we feel about the guardians fight

[fathom girder]

Y'know how Dragonfolly's lightning projectiles cover a halfcircle in front of the player? This idea gives me that kinda vibe

[raw falcon]

personally a fan outside of commander phase

[rotund venture]

just wanna point out it is so much fun being legit excited for the future of the mod again

[dusk bronze]

pretty good

[fathom girder]

forcing the player to reposition cuz there's a wall of projectiles to avoid

[rose laurel]

Not what I mean

[lethal kraken]

replace prov guardian phase with goozma phase with goozma

[still bluff]

Its a fascinating combination of rungod and circle sim in the same fight

At least you have to think a bit while you're forced to hold D

[rose laurel]

Providence's crystal rain is currently an attack completely independent of Providence with its own timer. She doesn't actually stop to use it, they just come out and overlap with attacks indiscriminately

[dusk bronze]

yeah i think the rungodding mostly works there

like ur getting jumped

[rose laurel]

I wanted the attack to be a lot more deliberate

She actively stops to set it up and make the next attack harder to dodge

[rotund venture]

that would bee cool

[lethal kraken]

i think i've been kinda rungodding in my playthrough if im correctly guessing the term but also try to circle to go around to any arena bit where my omnistations are

[rotund venture]

but would need to be done carefully

[fathom girder]

duh

[dusk bronze]

tbh guardians should naturally spawn like eoc but. during the day

[still bluff]

True?

[rotund venture]

boss spawns are another can of worms tbh

[fathom girder]

You go into the underworld and see one of the guardians peeking around a corner with a glock

[grave geyser]

how is that different from what she does during night prov

[still bluff]

Your regularly scheduled jumping begins today

[dusk bronze]

peak

[rose laurel]

I

Literally just explained

😭

[grave geyser]

you litterally just described how she uses it

[boreal edge]

Night Provi crystal attack is so fast that it's an independent attack

[amber egret]

insane idea: post lunatic cultist guardians

[boreal edge]

I think what Laura is describing is very distinct

[rose laurel]

Providence's crystal, currently, is a separate attack with a separate timer which happens indiscriminately and overlaps with whatever attack is currently going on

[fathom girder]

night provi crystal is a rungodding attack

[still bluff]

Post Provi guardians tbh

[fathom girder]

tbh

[grave geyser]

so like if it was constantly raining across all of coccoon

[rose laurel]

No man

🥀

[fathom girder]

lmao

some people aren't built to see the vision

[dusk bronze]

can we kill provi and guards biome restriction also
it's genuinely pointless now

[mighty geyser]

yea

please

[rose laurel]

Providence's Crystal Rain is AN INDEPENDENT ATTACK because they don't come out of Providence, they come out of the crystal she spawns halfway through the fight

[amber egret]

astrum deus lost its night time requirement for summoning, we can lose profaned biome req

[rose laurel]

The crystal has its own timer and acts independently of Providence

[lethal kraken]

random other question but like with big cool boss redesigns and stuff i think it would be cool if there was vanity or related stuff like related to the old designs

like i guess shimmering the relics/trophys or one idea i had years ago was ancient boss masks using the old boss mask sprites very rare

[fathom girder]

Biome restrictions make sense when the summon method is grounded in the biome I think
So yeah provi could 100% be an all biome summon

[rose laurel]

This means that the crystal rain can overlap with literally any attack, at any time

[fathom girder]

We need more plantera flowers

tbh

[lethal kraken]

think old removed enemy banners should have crafting recipes like the wulfrum slime one too that could be cool

[dusk bronze]

like you can have the lasers just anywhere on the surface and the crystal rain anywhere underground

[arctic cliff]

hey if we're talking about updating providence's fight, i think ya'll should also just refer to infernum provi for ideas

[amber egret]

Crystal Shower can start while they're Cocooned, for example

[arctic cliff]

even if you dont like it, i think we could learn a lot from that version

[grave geyser]

it cant

[fathom girder]

NO!!!!!!!!!!

[grave geyser]

the start of crystals is its own attack in the cycle

[final pine]

i love infernum provi

idc

[grave geyser]

what the crystal does once its already spawned is on its own timer

[rancid pagoda]

force providence in the underworld only :>

[amber egret]

id be fine with that

[final pine]

don't think they'll make a music sync boss though

[fathom girder]

infernum provi is good but they should go about the provi rework like they did the DoG rework

just

[arctic cliff]

just like how we learned that dog spending 90% of the fight doing a dance minigame is not fun

[fathom girder]

let em do their thing

[lethal kraken]

robotnik when scratch and grounder ask if he needs any help using his egg-o-matic tunnel machine to drill into a dam flooding and destroying a town:

[grave geyser]

(this is my point of confusion)

[amber egret]

take inspiration, but be original with it

[final pine]

just like doggo

[rose laurel]

I want the attack to not be independent. Providence would actively use this attack, which would overlap with the next. You would have to quickly dodge through the falling crystals, or else you'd be caught up between them and the next attack

[rose laurel]

MY BROTHER IN CHRIST

[west ledge]

wait providence is being reworked

?

[rose laurel]

I AM SUGGESTING

[fathom girder]

The DoG rework accidentally ended up doing a couple things like infernum DoG but doze didn't reference infernum DoG at all

lmao

[rose laurel]

THE EXACT OPPOSITE

[rotund venture]

LMAO

[rose laurel]

HOW ARE YOU SAYING IT'S THE SAME THING

[fathom girder]

Laura take it easy

[lethal kraken]

i still gotta try infernum sometime when prob next time i get hyperfixated on terraria when im not playing world of warcraft after midnight launches

[rose laurel]

I am

[fathom girder]

they're a calamity fan

literacy isn't their strong suit

[arctic cliff]

ya

[dusk bronze]

[lethal kraken]

LOL

[rotund venture]

ok ok no need to be mean

as funny as it is

[amber egret]

trollface
ad hominem but still trollface

[lethal kraken]

although i also have only done rev playthroughs so idk if i would enjoy infernum difficulty wise

eh i'll cross that bridge later ig

[fathom girder]

Infernum is an entirely different experience

[amber egret]

as a guy who's beaten the game a good few times, infernum is good exactly twice
once watching and once playing

[fathom girder]

it's great ofc

[rare tinsel]

infernum is fun nohitting with true melee

[grave geyser]

"would actively use this attack"
as in she would stop, spawn the crystal, and then go into the next attack?

[lethal kraken]

i wanna do mage infernum because i saw the cool palpatine ass weapon but now also because i hear its the best class in infernum

[rose laurel]

No

She would use the crystal rain

There would be no crystal that spawns the rain

[fathom girder]

Imagine providence has some sorta attack that spawns a bunch of profaned crystal spikes from under the player or something

she could do that

[flat folio]

kevin...
Nightmarish entity of an item

[grave geyser]

so it would just spawn out of providence directly
hold on lemmie like make a shitty illustration

[fathom girder]

but she could also spawn the crystal to then have it rain some projectiles and then follow up specifically with that profaned crystal attack to make it harder/different to dodge

[dusk bronze]

holy shit it's jane infernum

[arctic cliff]

the big crystal would look cool thoooooo

[fathom girder]

I think is what Laura is trying to say

shit I also got it wrong didn't I

[rotund venture]

yes

[arctic cliff]

maybe if you did it like
she summons the crystal rain whilst preparing a giant crystal to drop on your head like an anvil

[dusk bronze]

guys i think you're gonna give her an aneurysm

[lethal kraken]

yea prob will do infernum another time i just dont know when since this rogue rev playthrough has been my third playthrough of terraria in a row basically since i did two 1.4.5 ones (expert summoner and then journey zenith seed ranger) and other game stuff that i will get autistically hyperfixated on

[fathom girder]

yeah

laura sorry

this is why I don't speculate often anymore you do your thing queen

[rotund venture]

who's reading comprehension now?

[fathom girder]

HEY

I'm also a calamity fan

[grave geyser]

am I understanding even 10% of this

[rotund venture]

LMAO

[fathom girder]

shoulda been obvious

[dull heart]

okay I just checkes

[solemn crest]

Do I get on Warframe when I get home or do I work on a terraria mod? 🤔

[dull heart]

For debuff run definitely consider blazing star on destroyer

[rose laurel]

Yeah pretty much this

[dull heart]

Blazing Star Shred does 240 dps

[fathom girder]

Noted

[rose laurel]

And then she would use the next attack before they're done falling

[grave geyser]

ok.

[fathom girder]

Blazing star was already on my list for the debuff run in HM

[rotund venture]

ok so I wasa visualizing it correctly

[west ledge]

wait mage is better than summoner in infernum?

damn

[dull heart]

Blazing Star does not get vodka tho

[fathom girder]

prolly will do cryogen - twins - destroyer

and then go from there

[dusk bronze]

correct: kevin is better than summoner

and everything else

[dull schooner]

kevin propaganda

[grave geyser]

can you at least understand what I mean when I called that similar to night provi crystals

[lean relic]

LMAO

[solemn crest]

Idk man storm maidens retribution is pretty good

[dusk bronze]

1m damage vs butcher tool disguised as a weapon

[solemn crest]

(Kevin is genuinely broken)

[lethal kraken]

clamity devs are video game devs which literally makes them evil actually here is this out of context screenshot about the brainstorm update and talking about calamity overshadowing mods to prove my "point"

[west ledge]

dunno what kevin is

[solemn crest]

Kevin is the butcher tool

[rose laurel]

Yes, I know it's similar

[grave geyser]

ok.

[dusk bronze]

yes that's what i said

[rose laurel]

But they're different in how they work

[grave geyser]

yes

[grave rock]

Is Hallowed Provi still a thing

[grave geyser]

yes

[dusk bronze]

unfortunately

[solemn crest]

Yes, but not in Infernum

[amber egret]

what is the point of hallowed prov

like genuinely who goes "ah yes i will fight providence in the teeny ass hallow"

[solemn crest]

Another hallow boss I imagine

Since there’s

1

[amber egret]

Wrong

2

[solemn crest]

2?

[amber egret]

EoL and QS

[dusk bronze]

queen slime isn't real

[fathom girder]

Prov existed since before queen slime or EoL tbf

[solemn crest]

Empress you can fight anywhere tho

[amber egret]

its summon spawns in the hallow

[solemn crest]

Her summon just spawns in hallow

[fathom girder]

If prov was made after empress released you DAMN well know prov would use empress AI

[amber egret]

its a hallow boss

[dusk bronze]

you can only spawn her in the hallow

[grave geyser]

this was really more of a communication thing than a literacy thing I can't lie

[solemn crest]

Ain’t the same

[tropic jolt]

you just place 150 pearlstone at your main arena and summon her there

[solemn crest]

If you’re quick enough you can spawn her anywhere

[amber egret]

twins is a hallow boss its got souls of light

[dusk bronze]

no it despawns in like 1 frame

[solemn crest]

It’s got soul of light in its crafting bc eyes need light to see

[dusk bronze]

[solemn crest]

You literally can hit it. It’s timing isn’t the most generous but it’s doable

[rotund venture]

and worms need dark to exist

[fathom girder]

worms are evil

yeah

[rotund venture]

thats why destroyer needs souls of night

[fathom girder]

and skeletons are neutral

that's why skeletron prime uses both

[rotund venture]

my skeleton isn't neutral

hates me

[solemn crest]

Because the skeleton is the basis for humans, and humans are both good and bad (light and dark)

[fathom girder]

exaaactly

[pulsar cobalt]

she doesnt have a mini enrage outside of her spawn biomes

[uneven drift]

Damn, Laura out here suggesting some good shit for Providence changes.
They are also very similar to mine by coincidence:

Rework her movement AI
Turn the crystal attack into a cuccoon attack where she shoots a bunch of crystals out of her like artillery, make the crystals fall down and overlap with other attacks.
remove guardian phase and molten shit piles

[steep path]

Truth nuke the box art affirms this

[amber egret]

see

[steep path]

You can even fight them during the day

[solemn crest]

Twins is a hallow boss

[amber egret]

skeletron prime is a purity boss since its got both light and night souls

[solemn crest]

How do these mfs have Terra blade and full turtle armor pre mechs?

[steep path]

Just built different

[solemn crest]

Also I miss that Terra blade projectile

[pulsar cobalt]

who said theyre pre mechs

[solemn crest]

Me

[rotund venture]

wrong opinion sorry

[lean relic]

Dear god looking at pre 1.4 Terrablade makes me feel weird

[reef verge]

Maybe they're just refighting twins

[dusk bronze]

is that vortex beater

[solemn crest]

Not because of stats, because of nostalgia

[steep path]

Was wii u pre-ml i can't remember

[halcyon seal]

Grenade launcher

[dusk bronze]

ok good

[solemn crest]

I remember when mobile’s fina boss was ocram

[halcyon seal]

Terraria Wii U came out before 1.3 even released I think

It was like, I wanna say 2015

Maybe 1.3 was on PC by then but it infamously took forever to come to console or mobile

[tropic jolt]

[pulsar cobalt]

post ml i think? apprently it released in 2016

[solemn crest]

Chat do yall remember the bug in mobile where you could put things in the goblin tinkerer’s inventory in one specific slot and he would sell that item, so you could put money in there (bc it sold for nothing), and dupe money?

[lethal kraken]

completely unrelated to anything else but when talking about like calamity fables being its own branch of like different takes on bosses and calamity in general i wanna write down ideas (will prob never make them i dont code and stuff) or a similar calamity mod but its like based on really really early calamity and really really early ideas, shit like mechanical post golem dog and the void biome and the like sky temple ravager and andromeda

[grave geyser]

(anyway this is still probably my favorite boss in the mod, brain comes close but this one just has the tension I think brain kinda lacks)

[halcyon seal]

DoG in the nebula pillar

Blue (red?) desert scourge

[pulsar cobalt]

https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/wii-u-digital-launch-and-console-update.44858/
i was right, it released in 2016

[halcyon seal]

And ofc antenizer

[grave geyser]

red I think

[solemn crest]

Holy shit I haven’t seen regular provi in forever

[pulsar cobalt]

it was red then blue then brown twice

[lethal kraken]

ok i need to go stretch and stuff outside because good weather before i continue and finish my rev rogue playthrough, left off getting rad abyss weapon and now gonna do final tier acid rain and onward

[lethal kraken]

altho in relation to this i'll have to refind one of those information things talking about old clamity stuff

[grave rock]

TRUTH NUKE

[lean relic]

<--

[solemn crest]

This is horrible

I do not like this

[rotund venture]

side facing ares isn't real, it can't hurt you

side facing ares:

[tropic jolt]

evil ares

[grave geyser]

honestly thinking more about it this might be my second/third favorite boss in modded ignoring the person who made it

it has problems but I think the fact of the matter is that every boss does, even really good ones like neb are still somewhat flawed fights and a boss really doesn't need to have every attack be fantastic because ultimately that isnt realistically possible

[solemn crest]

For a very long time I thought the circle in Ares’s chest was like a mono-eye and he was like a crab kinda thing

[fathom girder]

Crab ares would be funny

[grave geyser]

cares

[west ledge]

ok i already asked but does anyone have any idea what I can do to improve this for plantera fight

got aired before so no one said anything

[dull heart]

Too bad it's not as good as invoked stargod

[dull heart]

What's your weapon?

Vengeful Sun?

[west ledge]

durendal

ye

[grave geyser]

how could I forget
3rd/4th*

[dull heart]

it looks fine enough

[fathom girder]

when is starbuster core available again

is it post aureus or deus

[west ledge]

astrum

[fathom girder]

which

[dull heart]

I'd personally switch the wings to something with better mobility

[fathom girder]

aureus or deus

[solemn crest]

Change your wings to maybe Daedalus wings

[still cobalt]

What was even changed for vengeful sun i remember it being like okay before but everyone is saying its great now

[fathom girder]

cuz if it's post aureus you could be cheeky and do aureus now for starbuster core

[west ledge]

daedalus wings idk how to get those

[dull heart]

Oh wait

[fathom girder]

I think

[dull heart]

You can make ornate shield

[west ledge]

that would be bad idea lmao

[dull heart]

I'd get that over nuclear rod

[fathom girder]

nah nah it would just take a little bit

[dull heart]

Having a dash will help a lot

[fathom girder]

Aureus is tanky but not hard

[still cobalt]

Aureus

[solemn crest]

Go kill Cryogen, and get Cryonic bars. Then you can get Ornate Shield and Daedalus wings

[west ledge]

less summon slots is pain wouldnt i just put it over brain

[still cobalt]

Bc the star tainted generator is post pillars and its the upgrade

[solemn crest]

Honestly the Daedalus armor could help too. It’s more damage than hallowed I believe

[fathom girder]

yeah you could totally go grab starbuster core

would help you out a fair bit

[still cobalt]

Yeah isnt daedalus generally seen as the better summoner armor?

[west ledge]

i can use ornate anyway

idk if daed is best

it might

[fathom girder]

hallowed is certainly safer

[solemn crest]

I think it’s more damage while hallowed is more survivability

[still cobalt]

I typically used daedalus armor and i felt fine going through

[solemn crest]

And then ofc reforged all to menacing

Since summons can’t crit

[grave rock]

Alt exos but instead of EoC EoW and Skeletron its Desert Scourge DoG and Slime God

[still cobalt]

Real ones do lucky summoner

[fathom girder]

real ones do invigorating summoner

[solemn crest]

Nah, arcane summoner

[dull heart]

Personally I think the better survivability of brain is more valuable

[fathom girder]

who cares about 200 damage hits when you could regen

[dull heart]

No

Hallowed is pretty much just better

[solemn crest]

Is it?

[dull heart]

yes

more slots, same damage, holy protection

[solemn crest]

I feel like I do more damage with Daedalus tho

[west ledge]

i usually never take wings off cuz fall damage tbh

[dull heart]

Oh yeah

Also spawn cryogenic staff vs plantera

Free damage

[west ledge]

alr

[solemn crest]

Like Plantera with Daedalus golem staff is silly

[flat folio]

I can't be the only one spooked by the perspective of that center orb

[dull heart]

with Daedalus Golem you 100% want hallowed armor

[grave geyser]

spider has more slots and more damage and its still seen as worse
so :/

[dull heart]

Daedalus armor niche is it can do more dmg if you don't already have frost burn

[grave geyser]

frostbite* smh

[dull heart]

less defense no holy protection

[solemn crest]

Nah for Plantera you want stardust armor

[grave geyser]

true...

[regal vessel]

Can Yharon be next on the rework chopping back

[lean relic]

uh

[dull heart]

for plantera you want fearmonger armor

[lean relic]

uhh

[fathom girder]

yeah

definitely

fearmonger..

[fierce hearth]

I'm finding that every weapon I use against Plantera feels like poop in phase 2, any recs (melee or mage preferred)

[solemn crest]

I try to run blood flare for Plantera

[fathom girder]

I prefer tarragon

[lean relic]

Until his resprite is finished for real

[tropic jolt]

for plantera you want no armor

[regal vessel]

wooden armor is better smh

[grave geyser]

holy protection ❤️ devs don't nerf it let it exist peacefully

[solemn crest]

Mage, Lashes of Chaos with Brimflame Armor. Melee, True Night’s Edge

[dull heart]

I literally buffed holy protection

in 2.1.1

[cinder hearth]

I know that SHPC is pretty good now

Could try that?

[solemn crest]

OH

[rotund venture]

SHPC is what I used for plant

[solemn crest]

GLEAMING MAGNOLIA

[deft lily]

I think everything should get buffed

[grave geyser]

in what way

[solemn crest]

The mana rose line of weapons is stupidly strong

[dull heart]

It now procs after scarf dodge instead of before it

[grave geyser]

ah

[fierce hearth]

Dodge cooldown stacking also got introduced

[dull heart]

that's irrelevant to holy protection

[grave geyser]

not super relavent to protection

[regal vessel]

does anyone have any advice for taking down scals brothers

[fierce hearth]

Oh right

[dull heart]

It isn't a generic dodge so it fully stacks

[fierce hearth]

I forgot it had its own system lmao

[solemn crest]

What class?

[regal vessel]

my last 10 deaths have all been on them

[regal vessel]

melee

[rotund venture]

sword brother first also #help-advice-read-pins

[regal vessel]

my current build

[lethal kraken]

fearmongus armor

[regal vessel]

i use murasama for the brimstone hearts and ataraxia for the rest of the fight

[solemn crest]

Dragon Rage/Cosmic Discharge

[lean relic]

Use God slayer dash if theres no way to dodge
It saves you one time

[solemn crest]

Do you have exoblade?

Or have access to it?

[regal vessel]

no

im fighting scal first

[solemn crest]

Hmmm

[regal vessel]

mainly because i dont have all the stuff needed for exos set up yet

but also because i want to try out scal weaponry on them too

[solemn crest]

Isn’t Nadir pretty good?

[rotund venture]

Orderbringer is bonkers

[solemn crest]

Idk honestly it’s been a while

[regal vessel]

yea i didnt wanna use orderbringer because of how broken it is but scal is hard asf so im prob gonna use it

its mainly just the brother phase that gets me

[grave geyser]

got reminded that they nerfed my goat 🥀

[regal vessel]

theyre both insane zoners and deal a shit ton of damage

[solemn crest]

Try to dragon rage them first

The DPS of true melee weapons is typically insane

[regal vessel]

i have to fight yharon again

i fought him with only murasama though so i think ill be fine

[solemn crest]

You can obliterate Yharon with cosmic discharge from dog

[tall gorge]

can i play with the dlc from fargos and wrath of the gods on the new update

[deep bough]

yez

just choose calamity ai if u want the new changes

[fierce hearth]

I don't understand mod culture and the desire to plug multiple overhauls together

[deep bough]

never watched FuryForged 😔

[fierce hearth]

I did, but only for Noita

[deep bough]

i got into terraria modding from furyforged and his playthroughs

[regal vessel]

still didnt get it

[deep bough]

and he played with a lot of mods and now i want to do the same

[arctic cliff]

i remember his playthrough purely becuase he ended up creating a new world just so he could experience ultraconyx and the absurdity that unfolded in that mod

im still reeling from that mod

[fierce hearth]

I just feel that with multiple overhauls it will inevitably lead to some amount of dissonance that would result in problem points in gameplay or gamefeel

[amber egret]

Grand Guardian + HoAD? is that any good

does it still summon a bajillion stars

[sharp ravine]

hey uh guys

i just entered hardmode

and i crashed

[dull heart]

Catalyst's fault

[frigid valve]

Not even yharon rework🥀...and removed a lot of items

[sharp ravine]

what does catalyst add other than astralgeldon

[deep bough]

metanova ore

[dull heart]

My guess here is that it has to do with it changing astral generation

[dull heart]

Whips, flamethrowers, some wulfrum stuff

[sharp ravine]

shiiit

i dont think i wanna remove it

although should i remove it to fix it

[raw falcon]

items wich the vast majority of people barely even used

[regal vessel]

🥹

[frigid valve]

And than he clicked post dude calamity become terraria 1.5🥀....nerfed so many bosses

[tropic jolt]

spriter hell

[fathom girder]

Yharon's not gonna be for awhile

but it's fine

because it'll be top tier once it's finished

[tropic jolt]

"calamity become terraria 1.5" 🔥✍️

[frigid valve]

Its the Truth man

[tropic jolt]

we truly are terraria 1.5

[regal vessel]

yharon is horrid

[raw falcon]

what? what does this even mean?

[regal vessel]

hes not hard but its a super boring boss

[frigid valve]

It should be a mod😭

[fathom girder]

duh

you can't rush perfection

they're doing a lot for yharon

give it time

[frigid valve]

Not a vanilla+

[fathom girder]

it needs that time

[raw falcon]

genuinely what are you talking about

[tropic jolt]

who knows

[raw falcon]

does anyone know what this guy is on about?

[frigid valve]

Bro just Look for vanilla+ mods🥀..

[raw falcon]

what do vanilla+ mods have to do with anything????

[regal vessel]

anyway i got past the brothers

[rose laurel]

Being a Mod doesn't mean trampling upon every damage value of the game ever

[regal vessel]

but then i immediately died to the giant circle of death

[tropic jolt]

[raw falcon]

oh this guy is complaining that calamity's not stat bloat hell anymore?

[frigid valve]

Because calamity becomes one if they keep remove and nerf stuff

[sharp ravine]

ok i beat wall of flesh again

[regal vessel]

barely anything was removed

[frigid valve]

Im a Veteran what ya expect?

[sharp ravine]

and it didnt crash

[raw falcon]

Brother just because calamity isnt stat bloated doesnt mean its a vanilla plus mod

[fathom girder]

Being a veteran isn't a free ticket to being dense

I'm also a veteran but I always side with the devs

cuz they know what they're doing

And I don't

[dull schooner]

f***solian mindset

[frigid valve]

If they keep doing that it will🥀

[pseudo vector]

did you just look at the changelog or have you actually played ingame

[tropic jolt]

how can a mod that adds 20 bosses be vanilla+

[raw falcon]

they removed like 15-20 weapons? half of wich literally no one used lol

thats not what vanilla+ means

[sly delta]

i dont understand how removing unnecessarily inflated stat numbers makes it a vanilla+

[frigid valve]

Sure we needed a New Overhaul screen🥀what about the cores

[raw falcon]

for reference im also a veteran but this line of thinking is just stupid

[frigid valve]

The nerfed bosses

[fathom girder]

overhaul 🥀

[tropic jolt]

the cores?

[raw falcon]

what about the cores???

[fathom girder]

no way bru

[tropic jolt]

the cores that literally did nothing but provide an extra crafting step?

[sharp ravine]

i think he meant cores of eulem, havoc and uhh

[frigid valve]

After calamitas clone

[sharp ravine]

solar

i guess

[sly delta]

well when you debloat weapons u gotta debloat bosses yk...

[lethal kraken]

the younger generation cannot type more then 2 messages without using a wilted rose emoji

[vivid hemlock]

yeah but they also nerfed everything else so theres not a very noticable difference

[frigid valve]

Yeah exactly thx

[deep bough]

the cores were just bloat and not necessary

good change

[still bluff]

cores were such a meaningful item, removing them is a crippling brow that calamity will never recover from

[raw falcon]

are you complaining that theres no cores anymore besides calamity? That is the biggest nothing burger complaint of the century good grief

[sharp ravine]

my only gripe is that with infernum the bosses are the same

[dull heart]

brow

[pseudo vector]

the cores: unnecessary item bloat and needless extra crafting step gone
the boss "nerfs": full mod rebalance to make things align better with vanilla and lessen power creep

[tropic jolt]

[pulsar torrent]

w h e r e i s m u r a s a m a r e w o r k?

[sly delta]

cores did nothing but add an unnecessary crafting step

[regal vessel]

nahhh

[dull heart]

We actually did make the damage on bosses way too low

[regal vessel]

murasama is fine rn

[dull schooner]

you are telling me that this guy wanted old master death????
the shithole of balance that it was?

[frigid valve]

Because your to Lazy for farming right🥀

[sharp ravine]

400 damage on dog bite

[dull heart]

that's fine

[sharp ravine]

devourer of gods bite*

[still bluff]

yea, we did overshoot on most bosses

[fathom girder]

Doze is mentioning the earlier content

[pseudo vector]

2 shot death mode dog bite is fine imo

[fathom girder]

Where rev bosses hit for like 60 damage

[dull heart]

It's early game bosses where dmg is wayyy too low

[frigid valve]

And it was fun even with one shot

[fathom girder]

lol

[still bluff]

imo it's definitely much better than the insane stat bloat tho

[raw falcon]

they didn't even remove any of the farming though? They literally just removed a crafting step what are you on about

[pseudo vector]

1 shot is way too much lmao

[pulsar torrent]

but malice...

[raw falcon]

bro is genuinely onto nothing

[sharp ravine]

oh yeah no wonder i had a leisurely time in prehardmode

[pseudo vector]

malice is not meant to be taken seriously and is just complete garbage

[regal vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/he-made-a-statement-statement-dog-clowned-trash-opinion-your-opinion-gif-15033044919438935088

[fathom girder]

"vanilla+" as a concept seems way to general as a means to hate on something

[dull heart]

you can literally easily sit still for 90% of the bosses until moon lord

[sharp ravine]

holy shit i first tried 2 queen bees at the same time

on accident

[fathom girder]

like "x-slop" y'know

[regal vessel]

its over

[still bluff]

just like vanilla!

[dull heart]

It's definitely not better than the stat bloat because

[tropic jolt]

fighting desert scourge and taking only like 30 damage from its bite is pretty funny

[dull heart]

stat bloat actually had to engage

[still bluff]

we achieved what we wanted! vanilla parity!

[arctic cliff]

i havent noticed a difference ngl

[dull heart]

It's literally worse than it is in vanilla

[pulsar torrent]

im playing it for challenge, but some bosses feels unfair, like golem

[pseudo vector]

its not meant to be fair lol

[dull heart]

like significantly easier to do nothing in cal rn than vanilla

[sly delta]

whats the point when nothing interesting happens with the cores and u would still have a lot of the base materials on hand at that point. theres no reason to add a craft if all its gonna do is middleman and nothing else

[sharp ravine]

cdmusic imma be fr with you thats a shitty mentality

[pulsar torrent]

its fun actually

[dull heart]

No malice is literally not meant to be fair

They're right

[pseudo vector]

its not meant to be enjoyable, its meant to be stupid

[dull heart]

Death and Rev are

[pulsar torrent]

why

[regal vessel]

im going to burst a blood vessel from cataclysm

[dull heart]

malice is literally the BS difficulty

[raw falcon]

That's the whole point of malice though...

[pseudo vector]

malice is literally our do whatever we think is funny zone

[dull heart]

just like legendary in vanilla

[pseudo vector]

death and rev we take seriously

[lethal kraken]

i think in both vanilla and modded secret seed difficulty is meant to be meme difficulty

[tropic jolt]

the legendary brainstorm difficulty...

[still bluff]

yea like malice genuinely just isn't meant to be a good fun mode
it's the difficultyslop mode

[regal vessel]

tastes like slop.

[arctic cliff]

they should make malice's bullshit nature much more obvious

[frigid valve]

Go cry and play Journey Mode🥀bro terraria is about for a long crafting tree

[arctic cliff]

like

[dull heart]

Correct

[raw falcon]

is this why dog has ludicrous acceleration in malice?

[pseudo vector]

yes

[dull heart]

Dog is actually one of the most fair malice bosses

[still bluff]

if there's something stupid to put in that makes it silly and difficult it goes in malice

(malice DoG is peak)

[pseudo vector]

malice is a meme difficulty and is not something we will ever take seriously

[regal vessel]

Malice DoG should be able to be activated outside of malice mode

[sly delta]

??? bro this aint a factory game theres no need for random intermediate crafts that just immediately turn into other items anyways

[raw falcon]

the literal only weapon with a long crafting tree is the zenith, so you're not only overly consescending, you're also just factually incorrect lol

[still bluff]

doze you made malice DoG too good people think it's a decent mode now

[pulsar torrent]

golem is ughh, because i killed him in 100x50 size arena

[raw falcon]

in vanilla, at least

[pulsar torrent]

world generation btw

[frigid valve]

🥀 think about one shield

[raw falcon]

notice how i said weapon

yeah

[regal vessel]

using roses like hes right 🚬

[jovial talon]

do people even use the ankh shield anymore? how often are debuffs what get you

[still bluff]

🥀 🥀 🥀

[sly delta]

me when theres only a handful of examples that support ur argument but u keep trying anyways...

[pseudo vector]

there's no point in putting that much effort into something we legit won't take seriously and treat as a meme mode for people who want to suffer lmao

[jovial talon]

most bosses dont even rely on vanilla debuffs

[lethal kraken]

🥀 bro blud seriously skibidi mid tuff blud in ohio mid mid glaze mid

[raw falcon]

the zenith, ankh shield and terrasparks are the only long crafting trees in the game that are of note

[tropic jolt]

[dull schooner]

ankh shield users when you throw a giant tortoise shell a them:

[raw falcon]

sure is a game all about long crafting trees huh...

[sly delta]

also god damn bros got a whole garden going with those rose emojis

[regal vessel]

calamity is vanllia+slop 🌹

[dull heart]

Peak

[hard copper]

I think its just plant, golem, and cultist

[tropic jolt]

how could you forget the shell phone #wiltedmanarose x10

[still bluff]

holy shit i forgot this existed

[pseudo vector]

if you're all about long crafting trees go play gregtech or smth on minecraft

[lethal kraken]

must be a shitty garden if they keep wilting

[pseudo vector]

that's probably more your speed

[tall gorge]

best weapon for rogue post golem?

[still bluff]

i should play gregtech

[dull schooner]

Avaritia or ov**haul

[raw falcon]

genuinely just go play fargos dude

[dull heart]

I love the fact that malice dog is actually a good boss it's so funny

[jovial talon]

oof.. and would you ever give up an accessory slot for ankh shield when it could go into d-d-d-d-daamageeeeeeee

[lethal kraken]

ahhhh white people reaction image jumpscare

[pulsar torrent]

sevtech ages is much more crafting trees

[jovial talon]

now if a boss ever applies that shitty confusion debuff that inverts your control in calamity, then im all for ankh shield supremacy

[raw falcon]

stargate:

[dull heart]

Malice dog was literally just me making something that sounded fun for me to fight that I knew was too much for the average player

[regal vessel]

perhaps like an enraged form that you can activate by doing something strange to dog at the start of the fight

[pseudo vector]

but yeah if you're looking for long ass crafting trees n stuff calamity is not your mod lol

[raw falcon]

bro is lightspeed

[frigid valve]

Yeah sure...🥀

[jovial talon]

plus if you want long ass crafting trees i imagine you could just boot fargos too

[sly delta]

the prices for fertilizer were too bloated and they refused to acknowledge it was an issue

[pseudo vector]

fargos souls is much more your speed from what i can gather

[raw falcon]

play fargos bro

[jovial talon]

throw in the calamity dlc and spend a few hours making souls

[pulsar torrent]

70 hours of playing and i dropped it because

[dull heart]

I am buffing malice dog in 2.1.2 tho

[frigid valve]

How about no

[jovial talon]

least complex gregtech crafting recipe

[raw falcon]

how about you stop complaining then

[regal vessel]

chud

[pulsar torrent]

broooo, lets go

[raw falcon]

absolute bum behaviour

[lethal kraken]

i enjoyed what i played of calamity souls dlc it was cool, stopped playing when i got into hardmode but mostly because i just got hyperfixated on other stuff

[jovial talon]

i saw earlier mention of the early game bosses lacking a bit of damage, i guess thats one of the tweaks to balance thats coming too?

[arctic cliff]

i remembered really liking eternity wof

[sly delta]

fr

[jovial talon]

warding and DR made a lot of them kind of just tickle

[frigid valve]

Worse than epstein:

[arctic cliff]

and i now understand the biggest flaw of calamity wof is that he goes too fast

[raw falcon]

????

[lethal kraken]

oh yea this background goes hard as fuck

[deep bough]

insane to say 💀

[dull heart]

Maybe not in 2.1.2, we'll see

[fathom girder]

The only thing that concerns me is that old malice was like this too, and old malice was despised for this very reason

Is there something about new malice that makes it like

a little more okay

[jovial talon]

calamity WoF seemed insanely slow to me with melee - i assume that might be intentional, but on revengeance he was kind of just slow-vibing

[raw falcon]

dog is a good fight

[arctic cliff]

you're required to create legendary worlds, i.e. FTW and GFB

[frigid valve]

Lmao

[tropic jolt]

well malice isnt really an actual difficulty its just legendary + death basically

[pseudo vector]

difference between old and new malice is that old malice was meant to be taken seriously, new malice is a complete shitpost and also just legendary death mode with a different name

[arctic cliff]

which. are very much unserious modes to begin with

[fathom girder]

alright

[pulsar torrent]

in malice

[fathom girder]

fair enough yeah

[pulsar torrent]

57k hp in wof

[regal vessel]

1. youre wrong
2. epstein is a horrible person you can make jokes about him all you want but its very inappropiate to seriously compare someone to him

[fathom girder]

I didn't realize I misunderstood old malice

[tropic jolt]

if you play malice you're signing up for ftw nonsense like shadow golem already

[dull heart]

It's locked to FTW / GFB

[sly delta]

there is no fucking way we are comparing the serial pedophile with an island who invited world elites to participate to an argument about calamity mod. If you think these are remotely on the same level please reconsider

[dull heart]

Old malice was a refight mode

[pulsar torrent]

i hate golem

[dull heart]

New malice is a "you chose to suffer" mode

[raw falcon]

consider shutting the fuck up

[fathom girder]

don't forget that the block button exists for people like that

[jovial talon]

cant wait for the eventual mega malicious eternity mode mod

[pseudo vector]

i don't think we could ever make it as bad as something like maso mode or satanist mode

[jovial talon]

(if you press adrenaline you die)

[pseudo vector]

those are miserable

[lethal kraken]

this is the shit people on r/calamitymod call "constructive critisism"

[fathom girder]

Satanist mode is actually diabolical

from what I've seen

[sly delta]

mega mammoth mode

[dull heart]

is this a challenge

[still bluff]

i don't think maso's the same thing

[lethal kraken]

they should make Glorp mode with Glorp

i am correct

[dull heart]

also yeah maso isn't bad

[lethal kraken]

in sayign this

[dull heart]

Satanist is the one

[fathom girder]

with antenizer as a secret boss yeah

[blazing field]

stop that

[still bluff]

maso is the hard mode of a difficult difficulty mod
satanist is the fuck you mode

[raw falcon]

This guy genuinely thinks hes hot shit huh

[pseudo vector]

hey once we do more with death mode we can probably make malice mode actually fucking insane

[versed heart]

I can see the ragebait is working wonders

[blazing field]

dont post that

[sly delta]

dude please this is serious i know someone irl who has been affected by a person who was involved with epstein.. its not funny

[frigid valve]

Yeah sure i should know right

[regal vessel]

mb

[fathom girder]

Are you guys gonna re-add environmental effects to dmode, or is that a thing of the past, do you know

I'm curious as to what you guys are gonna do with dmode over time

[pseudo vector]

i've had so many ideas flowing through my head to make death mode more distinct from rev

[blazing field]

this sure is storming my brain

[regal vessel]

can we just ban this guy already

[deep bough]

3x boss stats

[pseudo vector]

also 1.4.5 sort of does one of the fun ideas for us with lightning

[regal vessel]

its obvious he exists to be a nuisance

[severe coral]

🔥🖋️_ _

[tropic jolt]

re logic will hire you

[blazing field]

its for the best to just #ignore the user

[lethal kraken]

this is a massive insult to amphibia :(

[fathom girder]

1.4.5's lightning is literally old dmode lightning but better in every way it's awesome

[pseudo vector]

1.4.5 thunderstorms are fucking hilarious and i love them with all my heart

[fathom girder]

like I saw that lightning and immediately thought about old dmode

YEAH

[raw falcon]

This guy summoned the entire fucking circus, helmed, staffed, and ran by himself

[fathom girder]

The tstorms are fucking awesome

[polar tide]

holy shit what is going on

[sly delta]

progressively worse memory leak every time u get hit

[pulsar torrent]

i wanna play cal 1.4.4.9

[severe coral]

Uhh
Would you believe me if I said "Discord"

[frigid valve]

?

[polar tide]

dm me about them im curious

[dull heart]

Y'all we should talk about cosmic princess kaguya

[regal vessel]

@frigid valve has spewed out dumb shit throughout this entire argument and tries to compare someone's argument to epstein despite anne being completely incorrect

[lethal kraken]

we should talk about Glorp

[fathom girder]

I'm excited to see the devs make dmode more distinct

[raw falcon]

dude was dropping some absolute whack opinions, we told him he was wrong, proceeded to respond to me by saying "Worse than Epstein:"

[frigid valve]

Ymtj🥀

[sly delta]

who. im lost

[pulsar torrent]

started learning mod with this version

[fathom girder]

It's gonna be cool but uhhhhhhh probably gonna be quite a shock as well as the changes come out

[frigid valve]

You missed the joke🥀

[dull heart]

go watch cosmic princess kaguya now

[raw falcon]

what does this even mean

[frigid valve]

.

[distant raft]

so what do you guys think about how demon spider mode is being officially reintroduced

[fathom girder]

demon spider mode...

[regal vessel]

are you trying to prove your point or just spew out shitty jokes

[lethal kraken]

no way demon cider mode...

[fathom girder]

y'know that's why doze buffed the spider staff

[regal vessel]

pick a lane

[pulsar torrent]

who tf

[dull heart]

:)

[blazing field]

They've been warned already, move on

[fathom girder]

Demon spider mode was a proposed name for new malice mode iirc

[pulsar torrent]

what is a demon spider mode

[blazing field]

demon spider mode is a real difficulty

[raw falcon]

I think a joke needs to be actually funny to classify as such...

[sly delta]

if demon spider mode does not cause an australian spider infestation in my pc im not playing

[blazing field]

you can unlock it by fighting me tommorow in real life at the peak of the himalayas

come to me

[distant raft]

omw

[fathom girder]

headed there rn

[sly delta]

plane tickets booked

[distant raft]

i need only fight, not win

[lethal kraken]

apple cider mode

[pulsar torrent]

what time will be convenient for you

[distant raft]

but if i wint thatll be cool

[blazing field]

At around 6 pm est works pretty well

btw dont bring weapons

not allowed

hands only

[frigid valve]

Bro wasnt on instagram yet...

[fathom girder]

sorry I'll have to break that rule

cuz I've got these guns

flexes

[pulsar torrent]

got it

[distant raft]

do gauntlets count as weapons or armour

[fathom girder]

weapons, according to halfsword

the game

[regal vessel]

maybe another death exclusive reward from bosses, you can choose one modifier to add to your character semi-permanently that has an upside and a downside (you can replace and get rid of modifiers once you beat scal)

[pulsar torrent]

if i will used another arm like a weapon is this will count

[fathom girder]

ew

[sly delta]

sorry but im bringing a smoothbore flintlock thats going to hit everything that isnt my enemy and takes ages to reload

[distant raft]

armour, according to the enchanted cave 2

[blazing field]

as long as it's your own arm that's fine

[distant raft]

the game

[fathom girder]

got me there

[blazing field]

but if youre using someone else's thats cheating

[regal vessel]

what mod it would be would depend on the boss and each boss has 5 exclusive modifiers

[blazing field]

it would be funny if they added a Demon spider enemy

[distant raft]

what if the arm isnt originally mine

[blazing field]

new crags enemy trust me

[frigid valve]

Btw your opinion about Gypsy Crusader please

[hard copper]

when are they adding green needle mode?

[distant raft]

for example if i cut off my own arm and grafted someone else's

[fathom girder]

tbh that'd be tricky, buffing stats at all in a similar manner was tried before with class leveling

[regal vessel]

bluds asking for the hammer

[fathom girder]

It didn't work out because they had to balance it to be largely ineffective

[raw falcon]

if this is what instagram produces then no thank you, better off without this brainrotted slop

[fathom girder]

so it was basically useless to have at all

[frigid valve]

Did he even know him?

[fathom girder]

I feel a similar feature wouldn't provide much more than that

[pseudo vector]

that would be very challenging to implement and balance around

[fathom girder]

grafted? godrick the?

[pseudo vector]

it sounds cool in concept but it sounds like balancing hell

[raw falcon]

????

[frigid valve]

😂

[sly delta]

maybe the arm even comes with a ring? an elden one perhaps?

[fathom girder]

lul

[pulsar torrent]

broooo

its unfair

[raw falcon]

or maybe just with one ring, who knows?

[frigid valve]

I dont think so😂

[regal vessel]

why do you mention him?

[fathom girder]

can you three like

not

[lethal kraken]

holy fuck this fight was cool

[fathom girder]

please

I wanna talk about malice mode

[arctic cliff]

that would sound very... cursed...

CURSE YOU, BAYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pulsar torrent]

go on

[raw falcon]

Start hunting them whales

[fathom girder]

yeeee new DoG is swag

[pseudo vector]

ggs

[fathom girder]

I'm gonna add a NEW calamity addon that turns malice mode into OLD malice mode

[regal vessel]

i doesnt have to be pure stats, you could also have more unique effects, or you could just reduce it from every boss to only bosses important for progression (ex. skeletron, wall of flesh, plantera, DoG, etc.)

[pulsar torrent]

without ftw?

[fathom girder]

no I'm gonna make it suck ass

[pseudo vector]

i guess, but again it sounds very complicated to implement and work around

[pulsar torrent]

ty

[regal vessel]

yea i agree with that one

[raw falcon]

bring back fabsolian malice

[regal vessel]

its certainly an interesting concept though

[pulsar torrent]

cuz i very hate ftw golem

[rotund venture]

Is vanilla legendary mode (not zenith seed, just ftw master) actually unfair?

[distant raft]

can it be 1.5.1.6 malice and not little baby 2.0 malice

[pulsar cobalt]

foveanator

[fathom girder]

when I think of Dmode being more distinct, I think of enemy AI being smarter, environmental effects being a little more difficult to overcome(or maybe add new storms for biomes that don't have them), stuff like that

[raw falcon]

1.5.1.6 malice exo mechs still haunt my nightmares

[pulsar torrent]

bro bring back some potions like cadanze and yharim stimulants

[fathom girder]

and less like a "you get an extra stat to deal with bs bosses"

[arctic cliff]

oh fuck, that again

[lethal kraken]

you know as cool as the sprite for giant ass dog looked i very much enjoyed this new dog :)

[arctic cliff]

I REMEMBER

[regal vessel]

isnt that what death mode already does

[arctic cliff]

death used to make the environment more dangerous

[distant raft]

yeah get ready to be haunted again buddy

[arctic cliff]

now it doesnt do that

[raw falcon]

Oh no.

[fathom girder]

See this kinda went the wrong way imo

[regal vessel]

not the environments but ik it makes ai enemy smarter and more aggressive

[fathom girder]

The passive environmental stuff is annoying

[arctic cliff]

as did a lot of things under

fjakrslvsandfmvjkds

ksmdfmsreaf

[fathom girder]

lul

[raw falcon]

I want death mode to actually fucking kill me man

[arctic cliff]

me holding myself from mentioning the big bad Fa--

[raw falcon]

give me tornados

rocks falling on your head underground

tsunamis

[arctic cliff]

for the 553,340th time

[fathom girder]

It makes them faster, but not particularly smarter I'd say. Makes em more aggressive but the game plan around beating them remains the same

[pulsar cobalt]

the people will witness foveanator one day

[fathom girder]

Death mode blood moon is really cool tbh

[sly delta]

add calamity boulders

[raw falcon]

supreme boulder

[distant raft]

we need to throw foveanator into a concept incinerator nobody can ever speak of that devil again

[raw falcon]

inflicts every debuff under the sun

[pulsar torrent]

can u bring some potions like yharim stumilants

[pulsar cobalt]

ive seen foveanator with my eyes and now my mind has opened

[distant raft]

lava boulder broth.............

[compact inlet]

Hello does someone know why my The Devourer of Gods ist disabed?

[fathom girder]

When I mention the environmental effects, I was thinkin' like. A flamestorm in the underworld that spawns more hellbats or something or has the lava spawn guyser flames every so often

[raw falcon]

thats literally just old malice

[fathom girder]

specifically storm events

[raw falcon]

it didnt work very well

[fathom girder]

not passive stuff like the "oh it's too cold" bs

[fathom girder]

whuh

[raw falcon]

Give me hail i want my head caved in by a golf ball sized chunk of ice

[fathom girder]

I want more 1.4.5 lightning in my death mode

basically

lol

[raw falcon]

same tbh 1.4.5 lightning is peak

[pseudo vector]

i mean you'll get 1.4.5 lightning in death mode when we port later in the year lol

[raw falcon]

not gonna lie

[fathom girder]

hehehehe

[raw falcon]

if cave darkness ever makes a return, something like the abyss lighting system could work really well for it

[fathom girder]

ofc whatever the devs come up with will also be cool af

like yeah

[raw falcon]

of course not to the extreme extent of the abyss proper, but still

[fathom girder]

the abyss lighting system is a neat taste for what they are capable of when it comes to making environments more interesting

[terse dew]

whatever the devs come up with will be evil maybe

[amber egret]

put abyss darkness in everywhere

fnaf mode

[fathom girder]

Abyss darkness during the blood moon

now THAT

would be fun

[amber egret]

new secret seed "freddy fazbear"

[tropic jolt]

dreadnautilus jumpscare

[raw falcon]

1 in 1 million chance of a foxy jumpscare every frame

[amber egret]

the entire world is t4 abyss dark always

[lethal kraken]

video game developers are literally mustache twirling villains that are evil and oppress gamers and the brave warriors of reddit

[tropic jolt]

there should be a very low chance to fish up jared when fishing in the sulfurous sea

[lethal kraken]

ok the way i worded a bit of what i just said is a lot funnier then i intended and reminds of this one futurama joke i was laughing at again yesterday

[pseudo vector]

i mean we'll defo make it more challenging but i don't think i want to make it miserable personally lol

[fathom girder]

it should be miserable in malice mode

[lethal kraken]

"because our friend francis was infact... a bad murderer!"

[fathom girder]

lole

[pseudo vector]

oh absolutely

[fathom girder]

enter the abyss in malice mode

entire screen goes dark

[raw falcon]

environmental hazards were a really cool idea they were just implemented really shittily

[pseudo vector]

i want malice mode players to feel the consequences of playing such a stupid difficulty mode

like "you got what you asked for" type shit

[raw falcon]

make malice dark souls

[dusk bronze]

true

[fathom girder]

gfb pilled

[dense sundial]

🚬

[lethal kraken]

if dark then only souls

[fathom girder]

Fabsol would hire you for that one

Give it epic aura moments too

i think

[lapis oak]

L

why NOT

[shy bronze]

umm why was the asteroid staff removed ...

[fathom girder]

Shred as a debuff isn't actually a debuff

is why

soma prime also uses shred

[lapis oak]

you made Sage Poison scale with Evergreen

[fathom girder]

Sage poison is an actual debuff

[raw falcon]

I would actually commit die before working for fabsol good grief

[fathom girder]

think of shred as a hidden projectile that sticks to whatever you hit

[sly delta]

every solid block turns into auric repulsor when u step on it

[lapis oak]

it was boring

we probably don't need more Meteor Staff clones in the mod

[raw falcon]

it was literally just meteor staff but more damage

[grim pecan]

i do

i want you all to suffer

[fathom girder]

but your name is sunny....

wait

solar storm event

oh no

[raw falcon]

why do you hate us so

[raw falcon]

you know what they say

[lapis oak]

me?

[grim pecan]

yes

[raw falcon]

the sun is a deadly lazer

[fathom girder]

real

[lapis oak]

🥺

[sly delta]

give every enemy beams

[raw falcon]

give every enemy a moonlord death ray

[south cloak]

Give slimes pogo sticks

[terse dew]

True actually

[south cloak]

Super jump

[pulsar cobalt]

if you really want us to suffer you should bring back foveanator

[raw falcon]

make slimes steal your kromer

[dusk bronze]

[fathom girder]

Bring back antenizer

or I riot

[shy bronze]

cores and blood samples were removed ?

[brittle escarp]

?

[sly delta]

every time u make money u have to fill tax returns

[brittle escarp]

Cores were, I don’t think blood samples were

[fathom girder]

Cores were yes

[lapis oak]

Bloody Samples removed yes

they're useless

[fathom girder]

Because they were generally useless as a crafting material

an extra step that didn't need to exist

[brittle escarp]

Slimes reform after 3 seconds unless killed via burning

[shy bronze]

wat replaced them

[lapis oak]

nothing

[fathom girder]

Nothing replaced em

kinda

[lapis oak]

just farm Evils 2 for loots

[fathom girder]

The crafting recipe for a core of calamity uses each of the essences and an ectoplasm

it streamlined crafting a bit

[pulsar torrent]

bring back halibut cannon chance drop 1 in million

[sly delta]

ur houses have to be osha approved

[brittle escarp]

Agreed

[pulsar cobalt]

and ashes of calamity

[dense sundial]

I have some ideas with which you could very easily achieve that!

[brittle escarp]

Those are still in because I just used them to summon SCal

[pulsar cobalt]

reading comprehension

🫗

[grim pecan]

Give Provi contact damage and Bat AI?

[brittle escarp]

Oh wait

lol

[pulsar cobalt]

hold on her writing is fire?!

[brittle escarp]

The reading comprehension curse claimed another victim

[dense sundial]

Bat would be significantly slower, so just leave her as is but with contact

[fathom girder]

Solar bat real

[dense sundial]

You’re not thinking right…

[distant raft]

consider:

bat ai but with the movement speed scaled to her size

[dense sundial]

That would make GFB Provi easy

[brittle escarp]

Even better: those astral flying enemies that come in from offscreen at Mach 8

[thorny tusk]

Best melee reforges?

[dense sundial]

You have to cover all bases

[distant raft]

scaled to her default size

[brittle escarp]

She is actually 8 times bigger in each direction

Wall of Providence

[dense sundial]

We should replace Slime God with old Infernum Slime God

[brittle escarp]

What was his gimmick again? It’s been years since I played infernum

[fathom girder]

replace slime god with goozma

[tropic jolt]

replace slime god with nothing

boring boss 🥱

[lethal kraken]

how dare you

you will boil

[fathom girder]

what is THAT

worm of flesh

[dusk bronze]

ungodly serpent

aka peak

[fathom girder]

this will be devourer of gods in 2011

[vivid hemlock]

triangle will rework this into a profaned enemy one day trust 🙏

this is what provi did to bone serpents before they got turned into bones

[vivid hemlock]

what the hell

[hard copper]

visions of erd tree

[deep bough]

👀

[amber egret]

this is Dead ogzscule

[steel pike]

Idk what this is but this is sick

[radiant sparrow]

Is there a pre-made arena for the dungeon bosses like how vernal pass and the mega hive exists