#calamity-update-talk
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You see the vision
blud thinks he yharon
Yharon but smol
lol
going back to this point could be interesting as well to have this option to mimic how calamity deals with zenith by adding auric bars to the crafting
cuz in the context of calamity daylocked or not terraprisma is just another minion
Profaned ore
But you could always go back and obliterate EoL with that tier once you need it
^
So it wouldn’t be a huge deal
Lame
it would be a good upgrade for that tier in the game if u nohit
Why do that when it can be a standalone
meow
not everything needs an upgrade
but keep usefulness into late/endgame
Not everything has to upgrade into other things
That's contentslop that big roguelike implanted into your brains
the like 2 roguelikes I play both have mechanics that explicitly cannot be upgraded...
its just qualityslop
Yeah and they're a sole reason why people want nothing but moar content
you only like it cause its good
Toxic ass mindset
i mean am i just missing something
Idk, having a more cohesive and satisfying upgrade tree isn’t really a bad thing
I am glad neither of you are devs
i have read none of this conversation but i think you should all shut up and start talking about cats instead
look at my cat
cat ☝️
so fluffyyyyy
so who?
im so tired
Real
Damn
I think we should talk about cosmic princess kaguya instead
car
I mean yah until dragon folly swaps with evil 2
Kaguya from Naruto
NAARRUTOOO
hows the new vengeful sun staff feel for yall
No
I love it (biased)
feels better than before
What is the fate of reworks that were shown but didnt make it into BS?
Like megalodon rework
the new phantasmal fury is so damn cool
they'll be added when done
When I was doing my ranger playtrough I was very disapointed in megalodon and upgrades
time to fight dog
I realy hope its rework makes it into the next update
this summon is broken lmao
Speaking of ranger, I think Ive heard something about new calamity ammo
It's very good
idk the best way to play it
It and spider staff are both so broken
You know what’s broken the dang bows pre moonlord all bows suck
Use full sun
i just max summon sun
It gets more value the more slots it has
spider staff is good?
i tried playing around around pre golem with mixing wither blossom staff to it
Nahhh
and full sun just clears
It's the third best moon lord summon
Spider staff is not good
After Vengeful Sun and terraprisma
Have you used it in 2.1
is sun better than prisma
it's absurd
The ai is jank and it usually on the ground
if it is that'd be insane
Yes
wtf
Most bows are in fact boring
have you used it in 2.1
stardust dragon not top 3?
i can see spider staff being good with dmg buffs
I just got to moonlord in my ranger play-though tho
considering most ppl fight moon lord on a skybridge
Jesus Christ
Yeah
Like the phantasm is ok ig
wait and find out
cuz of exponential scaling
unsure
Well
It's absurdly broken when paired with Stratus items
But on its own idk
i still dont get that wouldnt that make summon dps worse
The bows ability’s usually just adds one extra arrow per fire
or is it used to fuel the other class items
yes
Since mage weapon previously known as elemental ray got resprited, does that mean that a rework is coming in a near future?
Lunerian bow is bad, goo bow is bad, all the repeaters are bad, the chlorophyte shotbow is ok, verbal bolter is bad, continental great bow and the plague bee one are honestly pretty good, phantasm is ok the tsunami is pretty good
sirius + draconis + stratus + crescent moon is really good btw
Bruh I’m sick of dookie bows
There are more but they are bad enough that I forgot about them lol
The blossom flux is good
Not with Galileo Gladius on DoG - Gladius allows Sirius to spam Quasar really fast
It makes up for lost dmg
but Sirius is mostly strong to fuel other stuff
True blossom flux and the one from the labs are good other then that they blow
Monolith bow with burst fire at the very start of hm?
overall it seems our power level went up
It is new
what are the stratus equips again
cant find them on wiki
or rather im prob searching wrong
waiit nvm im dumb
all i had to do was scroll
Ok, then both bows added this update are good, which is nice to see. It’s just a shame that all but like 10 are terrible
Stratus is only weapons
Galileo Gladius
Crescent Moon
Halley's Inferno
Alpha Draconis
Sirius
Vega
Stratus Sphere
oh lol
wrong it's also furniture
You found em
Post polter line of weapons for all classes with a unique mechanic of starburst or something like that
I can’t tell if Halley’s Inferno is weaker or if other gear got stronger
It used to be my go-to for dog but now there are a lot of better options
and saw the weps
Did you use Halley with another starburst generator
or just solo
If just solo yeah it's weaker
Starbursts are shared between all Stratus items
Stratus sphere works wonders
So they encourage multi class / item swapping
But even in starburst fire mode it didn’t have the highest dps
Cant wait to get to stratus weapons honestly
yeah there may just be other way broken stuff possibly
Halley might be a little too weak
I think the daemon flame bow did? Which is weird because that used to be terrible
And I don’t remember it getting a buff
I cooked so hard on sphere
Is that a classless weapon?
Oh dope
I love sphere
At the start of post ml do I just go folly and then profaned bosses?
every weapon is classless!!!
let me have perma uptime on my Alpha Draconis minion
You just need to believe in yourself
I normally skip folly personally
But yeah
Yup
It makes that a lot easier if you stay in the aura
Doesn't Dragonfolly drop the Rage buff thing
did I get the name right I forget
Stratus Sphere + Sirius exactly matches the rate at which Alpha Draconis consumes starbursts
Idk, I’m not getting adrenaline against profaned guardians lol
Also swordsplosion is now crafted rather they dropped by folly
Profaned Guardians >> Providence
stratus sphere visuals are definitely the vfx I'm most proud of that I've done for calamity
Saros is probably second
Comically enough has the exact same recipe as Blessed Phoenix Egg
I miss the Saros custom rarity I was making for fun and scrapped it was so epic
Is terraprisma still dropped by empress of light in night time ?
I can’t wait to try summoner once 1.4.5 gets ported
brainstorm sucks they removed ankh shield from the asgard's valor. calamity is ruined
I assume folly and evil 2 overhaul and tier swap will all happen in the same update, is that theory right?
No
(scrapped)
asgard's valor got sponge tratment
I swear I have gotten this before
address me
i love hollow knight
cal has been ruined by the evil woke mob
so cute
can we give exo items custom rarities please
How many boots did you need?
i want them to have stupid gamer rgb gradient names
TRUE
Dont they already have them
or like super geometric
exo and miracle matter or just exo?
give me fucking dron plushie...
NOW!!! ⛈️
This is still possible rn btw
cause it might be better to wait for miracle matter stuff to get reworked
neither exo items nor miracle matter items have unique rarities
yea I think it would be cool it they did
Accs will be stackable in tmod 1.4.5
Rage
we must be patient... draeplush will be with us soon
Oh dang, nevermind then
Stacking treads does nothing
But wanna know what DOES do something

YOOOO
The frog leg in these all stacks
wait 1.4.5 allows accessory stacking?
No
to the moon
I mean like in inventory
so what do they mean
I will be a MOAB truther until the day I die
All items stack in inventory and chests in 1.4.5
Weapons, accessories, armor
So what is the trick to getting the acidwood trees planted in the Sulphur Sea to grow? I planted a bunch all over on the sulphur sand and NONE of them have grown...
All stack
bugged, use fertilizer
Fertiliser, they seem to be broken for now
good question actually I have to assume it won't all be one update
cause that would be a lot
A bug, alright, I'm sure it'll be fixed soon. I'll try fertilizer like you said, thanks.
But you wouldnt have a pre mh boss ai in post ml
Duh
And overhauling them at their current progression positions would be pointless
Ofc they'll be reworked on the swap
I just think it would be a ton of work
so I don't see it happening in one update
but I don't know anything obviously
Thats a whole 3 complete boss reworks and gear reworks for each one and then things like combined brain
and recipe changes
patiently twiddles my fingers for arsenal and exo armors
I’m so hype
Modular armor is like actually the coolest thing ever
Sky ore wont need changes at least
sky ore will not change
also patiently waiting for funny red sword rework
All the arsenal content has been peak
in fact it will make a lot more sense after dragonfolly
my beloved for melee
Who made its name so complicated, simplify it to earolite already
Wasnt that suppose to come out this update?
think its sso or later
With like different skins and colors
didnt make it into brainstorm
Whats up with calamity making its ore names so complicated
rework could take a while
Still no yharon resprite
you just delayed it by another year
Oh like it was going to come out tmrw or something

Each time someone complains at that it gets delayed by one day
yhraon resprite 2080
Also cosmolight rework?
Is there an item that can make it instantly day or night now
no
no
well already waited a year and a half for a calamity update
No more, also its post deus now
whats another year and a half
not instant though
devs do not want the huge wait time to repeat itself
How does one acquire the moondial
shimmer sundial
Fishing
updates will be smaller, more focused and more frequent
And shimmer
Oh
its a sundial shimmer yeah
sundail is form iron craters
sundial
pretty easy to get honestly
get some crate potions and assuming youre not using likea wooden fishing pole with normal ass worms as bait
i mean the more frequent upate is certainly appreciated but if it needs more time it needs more time right
you should gt it p qucikly
Isnt it funny that you get an item that lets you freely control time after you defeat all bosses limited to a specific time of day
can somone tell me why i do way less dps after reforging to mythical
It's not about rushing
It's just that the devs are gonna do smaller updates focused on smaller amount of content from now on
rather than massive updates that basically overhaul half of the entire mod
The best reforge is not always the best reforge
which is why I don't see three boss reworks happening in one update
especially with a tier swap involved
what is the best reforge for summoner then? and ranger
i see at most one or two per update generally
ill be happy if one gets reworked
usually ruthless
will take anything
alright ty
like
i doubt both evil2 and dragonfolly would all get reworked the same update
i think its more likely,
that either evil2 or dragonfolly would get reworked
and the other would be kept as is
how would i max damage with exo tank,,, currently have iv drip on the rocks, dsa and arc ring
until its rework is done, then it'd get tier shifted
theyll happen sequentially prbos
yeah that seems reasonable
evil biome update followed by sky update or vice versa question mark
o and summoner auric cuz i thinkk thats the best?? i think i dont remember im too lazy to check rn
chances are the folly / evil2 will not be in the same update, that number of brand new fights / tier shifted content is a lot to cover in a single update
recipe changes due to effulgent feathers
i do think
both evil2 being reworked in the same update would be reasonable
but both of them and folly
yeah prob not
randomly checking social media calamity mod stuff out of morbid curiosity crazy that instead of just downloading the official qol restored mod people spend their time talking about how all video game devs are evil mustache twirling villains or some shit lol
Mythical relies a lot on magic bonuses, but since summoner doesnt need them the best reforge till 1.4.5 comes out is ruthless
that does sound about right yea

would be kinda crazy if everything just came in one single update
was there anything changed to eaters of world this patch mechanics wise
i dont think so, atleast nothing major?
alright thanks
eow will come later tho yea
i remember the last time i did corruption was like years ago
and it gave me massive ptsd with the worms and projectiles everywhere
yeeter of worlds
we don't want to have another update where we'd be dealing with that many boss changes, especially since with evil2 becoming pml content, that's so much stuff to do
Can you still buy rod of discord btw?
o wait evil2 is pml
evil2 and old duke are probably the boss reworks

im looking forward the most
farm it now
evil2 being pml is very poggers though i have always wanted post moon lord evil biome bosses
just due to how completely ship of theseus'd they're gonna be
drop rate was like quadrupled or something
Is that the only way?
ya
plus theyre, actually really interesting characters in the lore
Fair
and their boss fights rn
the rework im looking forward to the most is the cheese rework
reasonable to assume both evil2 reworks will be in the same update tho right?
not out of the world
2 boss reworks in the same update, isnt COMPLETELY out of question i feel
considering we got 2 reworks this patch
i mean it would be very weird if
logically speaking doing both evils in 1 update would make the most sense
yeah
we don't want to leave one or the other out and it feel really awkward as a result
post ml content that isnt jus boss fights
🥰
actual post ml enemy variety...
actual exploration content...
(as much as we did exactly that with brain but that wasn't our intention lmao)
events !!
tbf itd probably be EVEN wackier with evil2 bc again yeah
i feel like next time i play calamity after i finish this rogue rev playthrough today will be when one of these future major updates comes out but idk for sure, im just guessing because this is the like third terraria playthrough i've done since i did two 1.4.5 ones and also new wow expansion soon that will take over my life
with brain and eow its just
a quality contrast
[while for evil2
itd be entirely idfferent progression 😭
eow the forgotten middle child
as much as i love the bosses REAL
corruptions time will come
lets say hive mind gets reworked first
in wormstorm!
wormhell

you play corruption and you get -1 pre hm boss but one new post ml one
you play crimson you still just fight perfs after boc tho
i do want to make sure we properly flesh out pml content beyond the boss fights
i also hear they are adding the ham in a future update and it will be evil
I had a few suggestions for post ml enemies a while back
that's an issue i've wanted to address since i came back to calamity
I had one that was just. moving shockstorm shuttle to post ml
how horrible
It'll be horrible
and another one that i thought was cjust
a cool concept
but its sunken sea adjacent
finally we get the scal brimstone golfball i said they should add when 1.4 first came out
so def not anytime soon
Btw cheese can you remove my nickname
Hi :)
but it was, a post moonlord enemy for the timeless shores
distortion being huge and requiring actual exploration will be peak
that was just a undead desert scourge
that didn't manage to escape the incineration
i also didnt like fully know u came back to clamity cd so thats cool
cant wait for 1.4.5 whips to completely destroy post ML stuff
not as a boss or miniboss anything
Ty cheeeeee
just. regular enemy
you seem cool and made edge of destiny
This server is cool
came back after the horse got shot so yeah
real
cuz i think bringing back bosses as regular enemies as you get stronger through progression can be a neat little thing sometmes 

old duke and evil2 being reborn as a lotus flower .... so excited for it
though i am also really excited for signus rework Eventually just cuz
But aren’t most bosses, in lore, singular enemies?
dude hes so fucking cool hes SO COOL
i aint tryna randomly get ganked by skeletron while im exploring post ML dungeon tyvm
i did not know the horse was that bad but also i was not that active here as i was playing other games and also every time i heard aboutt them the examples shown were just "they said they didnt like whips when 1.4 launched 7 years ago"
signus is a boss i have taken a high amount of interest in
Yeah that'd be cool , as long as it's bosses that can be explained lore wise
Desert scourges are member of a entire species
signus is cool as fuck
the one you fight just managed to escape the sunken sea incineration
not that it would be hard more like why are you even here lmao
i want to make him so fucking cool so bad but that's not an immediate priority right now
signus is like
Sure, but like they would just get obliterated instantly
I have an unreasonable amount of interest in the Perforators
on the top 5 fav calamity characters for me
its a regular enemy for a reason
not a boss or miniboss
thats the point of bringing back bosses you fought early as regular enemies,
Desert Scourges were just. A species of animal
youre way stronger now
y'know I think it's really funny that the devs say no new bosses except for the final 3
so theyre no longer such a big threat
but the reworks are basically new bosses
(though obviously it wouldnt just, literally be desert scourge's ai or behavior
(thatd be wierd
so actually there's so many
just, a individual of the desert scourge species that didnt escape the incineration
so its a freaky zombie now
zombie lizrd. ..
I cant wait to see what the team cooks up for the remainder of preHM
Yharim 4078 🙏🙏🙏
pretty much how its gonna go
I dont know exactly the placements of everyone
but its like,
Calamitas, Xeroc, Agnus, Signus, Storm Weaver
They're all in there somewhere
I wish people on reddit could read so I could explain that to them
people be asking for new bosses but when we rework stuff they're gonna essentially be brand new bosses
i thought theres like zero space for legitimately new bosses
Fabsolian boss design will be discarded like an old shell
outside of whats already planned
every boss'll get reworked to be sick as hell and everyone will still be begging for Yharim
La la
Also, other than the last 3, I don’t think more bosses could be fit in anywhere
idt there should be more tbh
He is like, the main character to be fair
if fabsol made yharim hed have fighter ai ngl
yes we are saying how the reworks are just pretty much new bosses
better to iterate on existing content
calamity already has such a massive number of bosses we don't need any more outside of the ones we have planned (yharim, maybe noxus / xeroc)
again once we rework stuff it'll feel brand new
holy molly the new dog is so fun to fight
Are there any plans for PBG? I feel like post Golem is the most bloated section of the game ngl
like reworked hive mind and perfs will be completely different from current
so basically new
i think i will simply not fight PBG until a bit later
hes basically infernum dog lite and i think thats a good thing
just pray someone makes some cool addon or something if u want new bosses
melee doesnt get anything incredible from killing them
like wrath of the gods
or just play other mods
there's more mods out there for folks to play
signus in the lore:
- the eldritch enigmatic entity that people think devourer is
- dosent need to brag and boast and act as the coolest dude ever like devourer, he already just passively farms aura
- dosen't act on petty impulse or instinct, has long-term goals he carefully makes schemes and plans to reach
- isn't mindlessly destructive or evil, but more so pragmatic and willing to do immoral shit if it gets him what he wnats
signus ingame:
dies in 3 seconds and reuses corite ai
has it been updated to 1.4?
I like Orchid
thats exactly my thought too, i fight him like infernum too, and it feels very satisfying
in lore: does actions to get his results, and if he doesn't get his results he does harsher action
in game: heh. do you like. flying for three minutes. heh.
yeah got ported
🔥 🔥 [
no new content yet though
signus is probably up there with ravager
just the port
yoooo
for the greatest disparity between gameplay vs lore
exciting stuff
Perfs
evil 2 fucking sucks lowkey
true evil2 i n general aswell
ok i think exos arent AS bad
cuz even if their gameplay sucks,
"technica magnum" and you can fly horizontally
I think it's impossible to beat Ravager tbh
atleast they do have designs that match how cool theyre supposed to be in lore
I like exo mechs honestly
i mean so is evil2
well so are evil2
exos is such a dismal fight
I only care abt Perfs, Hive Mind is a fake ass boss
exos are more of a spectacle fight
Im a crimson fangirl to the end
like ATLEAST
And has genuinely NOTHING ABOUT ITS ACTUAL CONTENT INGAME
Like
i enjoy Draedon and his Mechs as a concept, not the mechs as a Fight
I do love the buildup to exos
exos design lives up to expectations
It’s hard at first but not that bad once you learn it
even if the fight dosent
i've said this before but i was legit questioning what the fuck i've been doing when i fought exos again last year
i really really really really really wish there was a gamemode or addon where you did shit for draedon
Signus at least is still from the Distortion, Evils 2 from the Evil Biomes and whatnot
fabsol induced existential crisis
You can gather that stuff from what is currently ingame
Oof identity crisis
"This is the boss ive been composing for??"
the more this talk goes on for
Ravager is, literally
the more obvious it becomes that most of the mods bosses dont match their lore hype at all
😭
The devious X axis vs Draedon's greatest creation
As far away as possible from its incarnation in any way imaginable
Ngl. I dont think exos are an explicitly bad boss, they're just really underwhelming
no
????
ravager is one of the most tragic bosses in the mod
SEE?
A fair assumption but no Ravager isn't a crag boss
PEOPLE DON'T EVEN FUCKING KNOW WHERE RAVAGER IS SUPPOSED TO BE
or related to crags in any way

the longer the ravager/signus/ceaseless void/evil2/exo mechs remain unreworked, the worse they become
ravagers gonna have his own temple structure
the longer the icon of sin is on earth
seen as class setups is a bit out of date does anyone have any advice for what I should use for plantera? Thinking about hallowed armor for the extra summon slot for the vengeful sun staff but im unsure
the rot
exactly
iirc ravager is meant to be near the crags
he was gonna be in the crags pre 22
but not directly on it
okay so like
Not really
Ravager is a god entirely separate from crags
I believe plans are to get him a temple somewhere in hell, yes, but I don't think it has specifically strong ties to hell?
why the fuck is the lord of the rings typing
I assumed the structure where u were gonna fight Rav was gonna be located in crags
mild thing ive noticed
though frankly i think the strcutrue being on the crags would be cool
bc a post ml crags boss is like
what is this middle earth

if you play on a medium world
otherwise we get brimmy and thats it
holyyy I am outdated
the equator
inb4 you beat golem and the whole temple regenerates into a ravager temple
your world sounmds like its gonna be Stuffed with structures
nah
r
new calamity vanilla tweak that adds a new world size named Omega
ravager dosent rly have anything to do with the jungle temple
and it's twice the size of a large world
Anyways yeah I think Ravager is easily the Boss currently ingame the furthest away from its canon form
actually world size is a concern no?
It's me , Mairon
Sorry I meant Annatar
Sorry I meant Gorthaur
Sorry I meant Sauron
what
ravager versus scavenger
large world
at least he's actually a flesh thing
ive made my point abt it before but calamity having Cool Structure is neat, but also Where Does It Fit
even with large
antennizer when
calclone is still a giant rock eye 😭
is there enough room?
Antenizer tomorrow
i still am stalwart abt sunken sea maybe being a bit too large
tell your mouth to brush his fucking teeth man. Do you not have dental plans?
reworked, specifcally
nah I like it going all the way down to hell
the more it becomes obvious
holoy shit dude most of the bosses dont match up to their lore 😭
itd make no sense also though
i like the idea of it going to hell but also like The Gigantic Pylon Of Blue And Sand
its ok
someday
The devs can make it make sense
surely we cant mess up on dog lore
How so?
why is providence a big rock crystal thing
a single minecart track and the whole thing pours into hell
No, it's a tactical decision
Rather than try and argue with him people just agree so he stops talking and goes away
space worm will always be space worm
Ravager, currently ingame
- Has no established connection to its actual place;
- Is in the wrong tier;
- None of its drops allude to anything about it;
it wont just be sand and blue
I mean Azafure itself was a pro-yharim civilization
ok thats true
itll have sub biomes and stuff
But it could be built after that
Provi just looks like that idt theres any disparity
keyword on was
Like, Cal Clone at least has Its Deal established
core of the blood god:
i was talking int erms of the actual sprite
Oh sprite-wise it's definitely Cal Clone
why is she eye
Old
cuz old scal was an eye
Another Retinazer Clone to Calamity Mod
aware
Calamity Mod: Holdover
ten thousand to Retinazer. for some reason
dragonfolly
deus
evil2
cv
signus
ravager
polter
old duke
yharon
exos
Antenizer
It never really occurred to me how many bosses are currently other enemy AI, haven’t gotten a resprite, or don’t match with lore
yeah but the cathedral existed during the crusade and was already the main base for agnus' followers
Ravager lore: A tragic tale of a man who in his endless kindness did everything for his people, going as far as to sacrifice himself for their survival, but was forced to be brought back as a mindless husk of his former self, incapable of being nothing more than a monstrosity that destroyed anything in his path, even the people he once swore to protect
I guess I’m just used to it lol
I think you guys are getting way too fucking liberal about what it means to "not match their lore"

ravager ingame:
scions has done infinitely more for old duke than old duke has in the past 6 years
gruugh im gonna. ravage you gruugh
speaking of ravager i fought it just yesterday
jumps at you
i am a fan of breaking the rock walls with a picksaw
Like yeah Exos fucking sucks ingame but they're also BY FAR the Bosses with the most defined ingame lore and specifications ingame
Dragonfolly is fine
big flesh tank
True, I am also an exo mechs fan
ye exos very much match the lore
Dragonfolly, some fucking how, is Okay
Dragonfolly generally is fine id say
Personally
Things we are not changing
wtf
right up until the fight sucking
Like yeah it dosent PERFECTLY match its planned lore
wrong paste
like deranged rambling that refers to some "old duke"
thats still more setup than 90% of this mods bosses
i boar myself
Ha Ha your link doesnt Embed
But its still just
the main thing is that they don't work together
And?
Dragon Bird that shoots Electricity at you
ravager ingame:
It's not like
oh yeah question is old duke still gonna get murdered in cold blood
Exos i think would be Cooler if they actually had Synergy Attacks instead of just Attacking At The Same Time
Just made to not be dogshit
the good part about exos is that the only things they need are for their fight to be good and for them to have a propper music track
idk where people got that from, removing old duke was never gonna be a thing 😭
i hate to compared to crossmod but Infernum does that Well
it was joked about
triangle i think?
which is comparitively a lot less than what most bosses need in this mod
was it triangle?
there are "patterns" ig the more u play the fight
triangle is literally one of the people who has been
working on old duke the most
hes literally john old duke
One of the spriters at least
The issue with Exos is they suck not that they don't match their lore
but "removing old duke" was more implied to be replacing old duke's current fight entirely
in the sense that he will essentially be completely removed and replaced with something else
I dont remember which
he's still going to be old duke
yo Triangle made the sick pig dragon sprite right?
this playthrough other then doing exo before clam i think it will be first time i fight them in my own world as when like the update that added them came i downloaded a no hit entire world sized arena to do them
Exos, sprite wise and design wise, fits their lore well
I think it's unecessarily confusing to say "remove" old duke for this imo
They have by far the best buildup and general Lore in the mod
its just gameplay wise
but you would say astrageldon was removed, yes?
just say hes getting entirely redone
Pig dragon sprite isn't making it iirc?
which is like, very true
frankly I think od is a very low priority fight to change
its one of the better fabsolian fights and its very out of the way
I think they're going for a different design
If you're gonna say "they don't match their lore because they don't work together" then you also have to add Calamitas to the list because she doesn't fucking burn an ocean on screen
sg / yharon / exos / clone

same thing
are like the big 4 of "these are way too shit for what they should be"
fair nuff i suppose
true lets burn the ocean for fun
i still think it gives kinda the wrong idea,
they dont match their lore because its out of character for draedon to be so fucking lame designing machines
her attack patterns are Bad ... fails lore..........
we only need one body of water anyways
to people who dont know the specifics fo it
True...
fixable problem

she should tbh, just add a mask over the desert until you get there and she nukes the place, killing you instantly and removing the mask
ravager is WAY worse than yharon
such an overhaul thing to do lmao
rav isnt a mainline progression boss

truth arkennova
and isnt nearly as important to the mod as a whole
you could remove ravager and not much would change about the current mod
is scal ever gonna get a fight overhaul beyond brothers btw? I know her fight is fine as it is atm, but I think there could be a lot more done with her tbh
yharon is
fine
If I have my way yes
yeah she will get changes eventually p sure
peak
he's like physically not fast enough compared to the player at that stage
Every boss except boc now is gonna be getting overhauled eventually, iirc
cuz shes already one of the better fights
scal is like lower in the priority list
Yeah SCal is like
id like it but she should be
literally the lowest priority
so you're basically just chasing thme
Scal is fine
Probably the lowest priority boss to change in the entire mod
oh hey i actually have a resprite question and stuff like is calclone gonna continue being an eye because im fine either way and actually think the eye is really cool but just curious
doesn't need any urgent changes at all
any other boss needs changes more
the only bosses I think dont eventually warrent a full overhaul are like
brain and maybe provi
yeah i know, it wouldn't be the end of the world if she never did, again, her fights decent atm, it'd just be nice
she'll most likely get changes way later
Bro
You have no idea
brain JUST got an overhaul 
Brain JUST got a rework luhmao
She actually kinda sucks.
THAT'S WHAT I BEEN SAYING
Provimongus
shes literally just fire ice queen
providence is weird because you don't want an arena
her fight is lowk kinda ass
i very much think providence could get changed tbh
I think that literally any of the reused code bosses are actually actively limiting what can be done with the boss even if the execution is good
No it's not because of that
no floor allowed
imo the only good part about providence is her hallow laser beam of death
providence is super fucking bad but shes like top of the pile for calamity standards
It's because, I will ask you this
she is a scal case imo though
providence ive heard only ppl liking or hating the boss
providence is Kinda Ass
very low priority
no inbetween
What do you do when you fight Providence?
The answer is
this is either because im just Too Good for the game, or her fights just Not Fun
You run
rungod
A lot
run in a straight line
fight wise (night) provi is still the best fight in the mod imo
the 2 reworks come close for me but still not quite there
i Loooooove Rungod
And then stop for the coccoons
i love cardio
rungod until she does her hallow duo beam
The ONLY REASON
you also float a little when dodging bullet hell
RAHHHHHHH
i agree that bosses could and will get better but actually doing another playthrough i've enjoyed the bosses still for the most part
Providence is considered good
and then after her hallow duo beam you go back to rungodding
Is because the coccoons are Actual Attacks you have to Dodge
WE ARE HORSES 🐎 WE ARE HORSES 🐎
her movement behaviour being copied isnt even really that much of a problem it jsut fucking sucks big balls like ice queen movement is not somethig you want for a boss
I LOVE RUNGODDDD
And they, infact
this is true
Actively punish rungodding
i mainly hate providence because true melee is so FUCKING ANNOYING OH MY GOD STOP FLYING UP
you are truking rn
So Providence is like
fair enough but there's way more urgent stuff than provi
Half the fight is just rungodding
Everytime you try to dodge her other attacks without running she spawns them in your face and you eat hits anyways
the changes she got in 2.1 do help this to a good extent I think
And the other half of the fight is actually pretty good
Provi is half of a great fight unlike every other boss which isnt one at all
not even jsut tmelee EVERY short ranged weapon suffers balls because of her stupid ass ice queen movement that has you chase after her forever infinitely
Yeah
she actually makes you turn around sometimes now
Ha Ha i drift Vertically For Some Fucking Reason
I like SCal
Boss aims to be out of range above the player at all times
whoops! drifted into your face! take this 300 damage gigablast liberal
isnt there also the crystal and laser atk
Ultimately yeah reworking Providence is moreso a matter of making her base moveset actually interesting, the coccoons and scissor laser don't need anything
desert scourge is fine right now actually i think
oh a dev said recently the next update has already been decided internally, which 10 days after Brainstorm is pretty crazy so is that true?
this convo is a lot better then ones i've seen on youtuber or whatever that just demonize people for liking the fights still for some reason
I do, actually, think the crystal rain needs changes
nice positional things to think abt there
Because the crystal rain is 30 times harder than the scissor beam
Yep we know what's happening next now
No spoilers 

For me with any reused code boss you should look at it and go. is reusing code actually fullfilling the boss's "fantasy" properly and fitting well with what the boss's fight should be and making it fun and etc
and like most of the time its just a No and its actively limtiing that fantasy if anything, even if the execution can be good
in part because frankly mos vanilla bosses really aren't that great in my humble opinion
crystal rain tries and fails to hinder rungodding
vanilla bosses are designed mostly to be
this wouldnt be a problem if she just did both attacks in both biomes just saying
very simple
"bro blud people who like this fight are literally glaze mid mid glaze mid glaze" or something like that because thats how people on the internet talk in 2026
its the aquatic scourge update
and event bosses specially,
are meant to be things you kill alot of in quick succession
I agree to some extent
Green needle update
antenizer update
it adds 3 new scourges to the sulph sea
But I also think the crystal rain is too much
it's been 10 days so if you're fr that is crazy go new team management
its gonna have issues
and does not change aquatic scourge at all
Calamity cryptid update new exotic jonkler boss
I'd like to change how it works
OH YEAH AND ALSO
I'M FUCKING ANNIHILATING THE GUARDIAN PHASE
I FUCKING HATE THE GUARDIAN PHASE SO FUCKING MUCH
WOOOOOOOOOO
SO FUCKING TRUE
I'M ADDKNG 3 MORE GUARDIAN PHASES
i think in my rogue playthrough ongoing the one bit of a fight i really didnt like was the tornado phase of storm eater
FUCK YOU
WE ARE KILLING FLUFFY TOMORROW
half the reason night prov is so much better than day prov is that guardian phase IS FUCKING DEAD
should i use chaos stone or any item to auto use mana potions?
EXPLODE
Reusing certain moves from bosses can actually be good in certain scenarios imo, if it is properly adding something to the boss that fits well
chaos stone is incredibly fun
i think the guardian phase is nice conceptually but fabsol never did anything with it
Like
ok ty
i mean yea just look at dog
yo guys, bladecrest oathesword isnt spawing in any of the chests. tried farming demons for it. still cant seem to get it
Biome mimic slime god is adding lots to the fight
If they didn't do that they wouldnt move or attack
theres nothin wrong with just reusing the base of ml's laser
It just removes the entire fucking point of the fight
and just tweaking it to add any small propertie changes i might want
Cuz that's just, less owkr
(the other half is that the changes to her fight basically just fix all of base provs issues and then some)
theres no reason to make a entirely new laser in this case
the only real problem I have with nightprov is that build variety doesnt exist
but now entirely using ml's base for the boss,
hey if dev's are in chat rn i wanna say again that you should add Glorp to calamity
does not spawn in chests anymore, higher drop rate after Eye
Providence is fighting you because she is biblically mad that you killed her Guardians
unless the boss i want to make is just the fucking Sun Lord or something and its just oragne moon lord
awwwwww
😭
right
fair
no you're right guardians are dead lmao

rip guardians
I agree that crystal rain could use a rework, I'm curious as to what you'd do with it
yuri is cancelled sorgy
to compensate we're adding back the three distortion bosses to be spawned in devourer's fight even though it makes no fucking sense
yuriphobic terrarian 💔

It's such a support attack that I assume you'd have to wait until the rest of her kit is reworked right?
True...
Guardians will no longer be a boss, instead they will be fought at 50% of provi like old sentinels phase