#calamity-update-talk

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brittle escarp
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It’s perfect

tacit juniper
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since its tied to jungle and ehs jungle

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budget auric

brittle escarp
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You see the vision

tacit juniper
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blud thinks he yharon

brittle escarp
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Yharon but smol

dull heart
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Probably true

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but it's peak so idc

tacit juniper
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it is peak

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but i lowkey lost the plot

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after the miku sing icl

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song

dull heart
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lol

gleaming hatch
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going back to this point could be interesting as well to have this option to mimic how calamity deals with zenith by adding auric bars to the crafting

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cuz in the context of calamity daylocked or not terraprisma is just another minion

dull heart
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yeah that's fine

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I don't wanna put an upgrade behind a nohit challenge

fathom girder
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Profaned ore

brittle escarp
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But you could always go back and obliterate EoL with that tier once you need it

gleaming hatch
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^

brittle escarp
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So it wouldn’t be a huge deal

fathom girder
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Lame

gleaming hatch
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it would be a good upgrade for that tier in the game if u nohit

fathom girder
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Why do that when it can be a standalone

polar tide
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meow

grave geyser
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not everything needs an upgrade

gleaming hatch
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but keep usefulness into late/endgame

fathom girder
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Not everything has to upgrade into other things

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That's contentslop that big roguelike implanted into your brains

brittle escarp
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I love roguelikes

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They are so peak

grave geyser
rotund venture
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its just qualityslop

fathom girder
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Yeah and they're a sole reason why people want nothing but moar content

rotund venture
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you only like it cause its good

fathom girder
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Toxic ass mindset

gleaming hatch
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i mean am i just missing something

brittle escarp
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Idk, having a more cohesive and satisfying upgrade tree isn’t really a bad thing

gleaming hatch
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ppl like good things

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?

fathom girder
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I am glad neither of you are devs

gleaming hatch
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never asked to be one

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just voicing my opinions

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and you are just voicing yours

polar tide
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i have read none of this conversation but i think you should all shut up and start talking about cats instead

brittle escarp
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TRUE

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I found these on Pinterest

polar tide
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look at my cat

rotund venture
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cat ☝️

brittle escarp
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Parked car

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She keeps stealing my chair

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She’s a little thief

cunning sequoia
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ok wait before the chat devolves into cat posting

polar tide
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so fluffyyyyy

rotund venture
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ye as cute as this is

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maybe move it to a different channel

grave geyser
polar tide
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im so tired

brittle escarp
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Real

twin mural
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Damn

dull heart
deft lily
dusty tinsel
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I mean yah until dragon folly swaps with evil 2

wide wadi
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NAARRUTOOO

west ledge
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hows the new vengeful sun staff feel for yall

dull heart
dull heart
west ledge
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feels better than before

high scaffold
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What is the fate of reworks that were shown but didnt make it into BS?

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Like megalodon rework

native thistle
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the new phantasmal fury is so damn cool

dull heart
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they'll be added when done

high scaffold
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When I was doing my ranger playtrough I was very disapointed in megalodon and upgrades

native thistle
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time to fight dog

high scaffold
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I realy hope its rework makes it into the next update

gleaming hatch
high scaffold
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Speaking of ranger, I think Ive heard something about new calamity ammo

gleaming hatch
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im playing thru on pre ML rn

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and its still carrying me

dull heart
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It's very good

west ledge
dull heart
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It and spider staff are both so broken

wide wadi
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You know what’s broken the dang bows pre moonlord all bows suck

west ledge
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im using 3x daedalus golem staff

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and 5x sun staff

dull heart
gleaming hatch
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i just max summon sun

dull heart
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It gets more value the more slots it has

west ledge
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spider staff is good?

gleaming hatch
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i tried playing around around pre golem with mixing wither blossom staff to it

wide wadi
gleaming hatch
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and full sun just clears

dull heart
wide wadi
dull heart
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After Vengeful Sun and terraprisma

dull heart
west ledge
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is sun better than prisma

dull heart
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it's absurd

wide wadi
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The ai is jank and it usually on the ground

west ledge
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if it is that'd be insane

dull heart
west ledge
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wtf

high scaffold
dull heart
rotund venture
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stardust dragon not top 3?

wide wadi
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Ngl

dull heart
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Then stop saying it's bad

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it got major buffs

gleaming hatch
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i can see spider staff being good with dmg buffs

wide wadi
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I just got to moonlord in my ranger play-though tho

gleaming hatch
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considering most ppl fight moon lord on a skybridge

dull heart
brittle escarp
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Jesus Christ

dull heart
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Here's the full list

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spider staff is

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Very funny

west ledge
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why cool/cracker over the durendal?

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wait im tweaking

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w reading comprehension

brittle escarp
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Like the phantasm is ok ig

west ledge
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so how strong is sirius post buff

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i've heard its like gigabroken

gleaming hatch
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wait and find out

west ledge
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cuz of exponential scaling

dull heart
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Well

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It's absurdly broken when paired with Stratus items

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But on its own idk

west ledge
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i still dont get that wouldnt that make summon dps worse

wide wadi
west ledge
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or is it used to fuel the other class items

dull heart
high scaffold
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Since mage weapon previously known as elemental ray got resprited, does that mean that a rework is coming in a near future?

brittle escarp
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Lunerian bow is bad, goo bow is bad, all the repeaters are bad, the chlorophyte shotbow is ok, verbal bolter is bad, continental great bow and the plague bee one are honestly pretty good, phantasm is ok the tsunami is pretty good

pulsar cobalt
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sirius + draconis + stratus + crescent moon is really good btw

wide wadi
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Bruh I’m sick of dookie bows

brittle escarp
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There are more but they are bad enough that I forgot about them lol

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The blossom flux is good

dull heart
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It makes up for lost dmg

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but Sirius is mostly strong to fuel other stuff

wide wadi
brittle escarp
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Oh the lab one is CRAZY

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that one is goated

high scaffold
west ledge
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overall it seems our power level went up

brittle escarp
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? I’m not familiar with that one

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Is that one new?

high scaffold
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It is new

brittle escarp
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Ah

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Must have missed it then

high scaffold
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Monolith is astral wood

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Reminder

gleaming hatch
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cant find them on wiki

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or rather im prob searching wrong

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waiit nvm im dumb

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all i had to do was scroll

brittle escarp
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Ok, then both bows added this update are good, which is nice to see. It’s just a shame that all but like 10 are terrible

dull heart
dull heart
rotund venture
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wrong it's also furniture

dull heart
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You found em

high scaffold
brittle escarp
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I can’t tell if Halley’s Inferno is weaker or if other gear got stronger

gleaming hatch
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ya i searched the brick

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then i scrolled down

brittle escarp
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It used to be my go-to for dog but now there are a lot of better options

gleaming hatch
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and saw the weps

dull heart
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or just solo

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If just solo yeah it's weaker

brittle escarp
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Oh, solo

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I didn’t know it stacked like that

dull heart
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Starbursts are shared between all Stratus items

rotund venture
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Stratus sphere works wonders

dull heart
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So they encourage multi class / item swapping

brittle escarp
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But even in starburst fire mode it didn’t have the highest dps

high scaffold
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Cant wait to get to stratus weapons honestly

dull heart
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yeah there may just be other way broken stuff possibly

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Halley might be a little too weak

brittle escarp
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I think the daemon flame bow did? Which is weird because that used to be terrible

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And I don’t remember it getting a buff

dull heart
brittle escarp
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Is that a classless weapon?

dull heart
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one of my favorite items I've worked on

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Yes

brittle escarp
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Oh dope

rotund venture
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I love sphere

high scaffold
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At the start of post ml do I just go folly and then profaned bosses?

rare tinsel
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every weapon is classless!!!

rotund venture
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let me have perma uptime on my Alpha Draconis minion

twin mural
brittle escarp
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But yeah

high scaffold
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Post ml is definitely a stage in progression

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Stagnation 2

dull heart
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It makes that a lot easier if you stay in the aura

twin mural
brittle escarp
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Adrenaline I believe

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But yeah

rotund venture
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did I get the name right I forget

dull heart
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Stratus Sphere + Sirius exactly matches the rate at which Alpha Draconis consumes starbursts

brittle escarp
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Idk, I’m not getting adrenaline against profaned guardians lol

high scaffold
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Also swordsplosion is now crafted rather they dropped by folly

brittle escarp
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Profaned Guardians >> Providence

dull heart
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stratus sphere visuals are definitely the vfx I'm most proud of that I've done for calamity

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Saros is probably second

mystic eagle
rotund venture
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Saros vfx are wonderful

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great job on that beam

dull heart
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I miss the Saros custom rarity I was making for fun and scrapped it was so epic

narrow yacht
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Is terraprisma still dropped by empress of light in night time ?

brittle escarp
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I can’t wait to try summoner once 1.4.5 gets ported

deft lily
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brainstorm sucks they removed ankh shield from the asgard's valor. calamity is ruined

high scaffold
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I assume folly and evil 2 overhaul and tier swap will all happen in the same update, is that theory right?

narrow yacht
west ledge
steep path
gleaming hatch
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i love hollow knight

deft lily
polar tide
deft lily
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😠

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grrr i mad

polar tide
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can we give exo items custom rarities please

high scaffold
polar tide
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i want them to have stupid gamer rgb gradient names

brittle escarp
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TRUE

high scaffold
brittle escarp
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or like super geometric

polar tide
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theyre just auric

rotund venture
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exo and miracle matter or just exo?

dull heart
deft lily
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give me fucking dron plushie...

NOW!!! ⛈️

dull heart
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This is still possible rn btw

rotund venture
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cause it might be better to wait for miracle matter stuff to get reworked

polar tide
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neither exo items nor miracle matter items have unique rarities

brittle escarp
rotund venture
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yea I think it would be cool it they did

high scaffold
twin mural
tropic jolt
brittle escarp
dull heart
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Stacking treads does nothing

dull heart
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But wanna know what DOES do something

tropic jolt
dull heart
brittle escarp
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YOOOO

dull heart
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The frog leg in these all stacks

west ledge
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wait 1.4.5 allows accessory stacking?

dull heart
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No

brittle escarp
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to the moon

high scaffold
dull heart
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With some shenanigans

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You can equip multiple of any wing toggle item

west ledge
brittle escarp
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I will be a MOAB truther until the day I die

high scaffold
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Weapons, accessories, armor

boreal wagon
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So what is the trick to getting the acidwood trees planted in the Sulphur Sea to grow? I planted a bunch all over on the sulphur sand and NONE of them have grown...

high scaffold
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All stack

high scaffold
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Fertiliser, they seem to be broken for now

rotund venture
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cause that would be a lot

boreal wagon
high scaffold
fathom girder
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Duh

high scaffold
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And overhauling them at their current progression positions would be pointless

fathom girder
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Ofc they'll be reworked on the swap

rotund venture
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I just think it would be a ton of work

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so I don't see it happening in one update

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but I don't know anything obviously

high scaffold
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Thats a whole 3 complete boss reworks and gear reworks for each one and then things like combined brain

rotund venture
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and recipe changes

gleaming hatch
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patiently twiddles my fingers for arsenal and exo armors

brittle escarp
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Modular armor is like actually the coolest thing ever

rotund venture
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more arsenal content

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the people demand it

high scaffold
rotund venture
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sky ore will not change

gleaming hatch
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also patiently waiting for funny red sword rework

brittle escarp
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All the arsenal content has been peak

rotund venture
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in fact it will make a lot more sense after dragonfolly

gleaming hatch
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my beloved for melee

high scaffold
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Who made its name so complicated, simplify it to earolite already

balmy quarry
gleaming hatch
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think its sso or later

balmy quarry
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With like different skins and colors

gleaming hatch
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didnt make it into brainstorm

high scaffold
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Whats up with calamity making its ore names so complicated

rotund venture
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rework could take a while

balmy quarry
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Still no yharon resprite

rotund venture
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you just delayed it by another year

gleaming hatch
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when the dragonfruit is no longer the dragonfruit

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cuz of a conflict with vanilla

balmy quarry
high scaffold
rotund venture
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yhraon resprite 2080

balmy quarry
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Also cosmolight rework?

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Is there an item that can make it instantly day or night now

dusk bronze
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no

rotund venture
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no

gleaming hatch
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well already waited a year and a half for a calamity update

high scaffold
gleaming hatch
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whats another year and a half

blazing field
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well

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there is

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its called sundial .

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moondial too while you're at it

dusk bronze
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not instant though

rotund venture
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devs do not want the huge wait time to repeat itself

brittle escarp
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How does one acquire the moondial

dusk bronze
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shimmer sundial

balmy quarry
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Fishing

rotund venture
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updates will be smaller, more focused and more frequent

balmy quarry
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And shimmer

brittle escarp
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Oh

blazing field
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its a sundial shimmer yeah

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sundail is form iron craters

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sundial

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pretty easy to get honestly

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get some crate potions and assuming youre not using likea wooden fishing pole with normal ass worms as bait

gleaming hatch
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i mean the more frequent upate is certainly appreciated but if it needs more time it needs more time right

blazing field
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you should gt it p qucikly

high scaffold
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Isnt it funny that you get an item that lets you freely control time after you defeat all bosses limited to a specific time of day

latent bison
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can somone tell me why i do way less dps after reforging to mythical

blazing field
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It's just that the devs are gonna do smaller updates focused on smaller amount of content from now on

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rather than massive updates that basically overhaul half of the entire mod

high scaffold
rotund venture
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which is why I don't see three boss reworks happening in one update

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especially with a tier swap involved

latent bison
blazing field
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i see at most one or two per update generally

gleaming hatch
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ill be happy if one gets reworked

dusk bronze
gleaming hatch
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will take anything

latent bison
blazing field
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like

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i doubt both evil2 and dragonfolly would all get reworked the same update

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i think its more likely,

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that either evil2 or dragonfolly would get reworked

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and the other would be kept as is

pulsar cobalt
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how would i max damage with exo tank,,, currently have iv drip on the rocks, dsa and arc ring

blazing field
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until its rework is done, then it'd get tier shifted

rotund venture
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theyll happen sequentially prbos

blazing field
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yeah that seems reasonable

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evil biome update followed by sky update or vice versa question mark

rotund venture
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still a lot of stuff to do mind you give

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gear reworks

pulsar cobalt
pseudo vector
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chances are the folly / evil2 will not be in the same update, that number of brand new fights / tier shifted content is a lot to cover in a single update

blazing field
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yeah

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yeah

rotund venture
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recipe changes due to effulgent feathers

blazing field
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i do think

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both evil2 being reworked in the same update would be reasonable

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but both of them and folly

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yeah prob not

lethal kraken
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randomly checking social media calamity mod stuff out of morbid curiosity crazy that instead of just downloading the official qol restored mod people spend their time talking about how all video game devs are evil mustache twirling villains or some shit lol

high scaffold
lethal kraken
lethal kraken
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would be kinda crazy if everything just came in one single update

gleaming hatch
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was there anything changed to eaters of world this patch mechanics wise

blazing field
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i dont think so, atleast nothing major?

blazing field
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eow will come later tho yea

gleaming hatch
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i remember the last time i did corruption was like years ago

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and it gave me massive ptsd with the worms and projectiles everywhere

lethal kraken
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yeeter of worlds

pseudo vector
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we don't want to have another update where we'd be dealing with that many boss changes, especially since with evil2 becoming pml content, that's so much stuff to do

balmy quarry
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Can you still buy rod of discord btw?

gleaming hatch
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o wait evil2 is pml

blazing field
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evil2 and old duke are probably the boss reworks

gleaming hatch
blazing field
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im looking forward the most

gleaming hatch
lethal kraken
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evil2 being pml is very poggers though i have always wanted post moon lord evil biome bosses

blazing field
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just due to how completely ship of theseus'd they're gonna be

gleaming hatch
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drop rate was like quadrupled or something

balmy quarry
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Is that the only way?

gleaming hatch
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ya

balmy quarry
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Oh

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Kk

blazing field
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plus theyre, actually really interesting characters in the lore

balmy quarry
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Fair

blazing field
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and their boss fights rn

pulsar cobalt
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the rework im looking forward to the most is the cheese rework

blazing field
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dont match up to it at all

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dies

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thats my rework

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i just die

rotund venture
blazing field
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theres no way to confirm it i imagine

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but it does seem p reasonable to me

gleaming hatch
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not out of the world

blazing field
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2 boss reworks in the same update, isnt COMPLETELY out of question i feel

gleaming hatch
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considering we got 2 reworks this patch

pulsar cobalt
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i mean it would be very weird if

pseudo vector
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logically speaking doing both evils in 1 update would make the most sense

blazing field
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yeah

pulsar cobalt
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one got turned to post ml

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but the other didnt

blazing field
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yeah :asob

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thatd be wacky

pseudo vector
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we don't want to leave one or the other out and it feel really awkward as a result

rotund venture
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I'm very much looking forward for more post ml stuff

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boss and non-boss

blazing field
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post ml content that isnt jus boss fights

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🥰

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actual post ml enemy variety...

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actual exploration content...

pseudo vector
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(as much as we did exactly that with brain but that wasn't our intention lmao)

blazing field
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events !!

blazing field
lethal kraken
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i feel like next time i play calamity after i finish this rogue rev playthrough today will be when one of these future major updates comes out but idk for sure, im just guessing because this is the like third terraria playthrough i've done since i did two 1.4.5 ones and also new wow expansion soon that will take over my life

blazing field
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with brain and eow its just

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a quality contrast

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[while for evil2

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itd be entirely idfferent progression 😭

rotund venture
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eow the forgotten middle child

lethal kraken
tropic jolt
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corruptions time will come

blazing field
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lets say hive mind gets reworked first

tropic jolt
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in wormstorm!

rotund venture
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wormhell

dusk bronze
blazing field
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you play corruption and you get -1 pre hm boss but one new post ml one

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you play crimson you still just fight perfs after boc tho

pseudo vector
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i do want to make sure we properly flesh out pml content beyond the boss fights

blazing field
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itd be so wacky

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lmao

lethal kraken
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i also hear they are adding the ham in a future update and it will be evil

blazing field
pseudo vector
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that's an issue i've wanted to address since i came back to calamity

blazing field
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I had one that was just. moving shockstorm shuttle to post ml

blazing field
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and another one that i thought was cjust

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a cool concept

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but its sunken sea adjacent

lethal kraken
blazing field
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so def not anytime soon

cinder hearth
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Btw cheese can you remove my nickname

grave rock
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Hi :)

blazing field
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but it was, a post moonlord enemy for the timeless shores

rotund venture
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distortion being huge and requiring actual exploration will be peak

blazing field
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that was just a undead desert scourge

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that didn't manage to escape the incineration

lethal kraken
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i also didnt like fully know u came back to clamity cd so thats cool

gleaming hatch
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cant wait for 1.4.5 whips to completely destroy post ML stuff

blazing field
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not as a boss or miniboss anything

cinder hearth
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Ty cheeeeee

blazing field
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just. regular enemy

lethal kraken
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you seem cool and made edge of destiny

grave rock
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This server is cool

pseudo vector
lethal kraken
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real

blazing field
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cuz i think bringing back bosses as regular enemies as you get stronger through progression can be a neat little thing sometmes happi

dusk bronze
blazing field
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old duke and evil2 being reborn as a lotus flower .... so excited for it

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though i am also really excited for signus rework Eventually just cuz

brittle escarp
blazing field
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dude hes so fucking cool hes SO COOL

gleaming hatch
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i aint tryna randomly get ganked by skeletron while im exploring post ML dungeon tyvm

blazing field
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and his fight SUCKS

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he has SO MUCH AURA in the lore

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and ingame he SUCKS SO BAD

lethal kraken
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i did not know the horse was that bad but also i was not that active here as i was playing other games and also every time i heard aboutt them the examples shown were just "they said they didnt like whips when 1.4 launched 7 years ago"

pseudo vector
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signus is a boss i have taken a high amount of interest in

cinder hearth
blazing field
lethal kraken
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signus is cool as fuck

blazing field
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the one you fight just managed to escape the sunken sea incineration

gleaming hatch
pseudo vector
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i want to make him so fucking cool so bad but that's not an immediate priority right now

blazing field
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signus is like

brittle escarp
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Sure, but like they would just get obliterated instantly

grave rock
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I have an unreasonable amount of interest in the Perforators

blazing field
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on the top 5 fav calamity characters for me

blazing field
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not a boss or miniboss

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thats the point of bringing back bosses you fought early as regular enemies,

grave rock
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Desert Scourges were just. A species of animal

blazing field
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youre way stronger now

rotund venture
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y'know I think it's really funny that the devs say no new bosses except for the final 3

gleaming hatch
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old boss randomly spawns in to laugh and fk up your mental

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and insta dies

blazing field
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so theyre no longer such a big threat

rotund venture
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but the reworks are basically new bosses

blazing field
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(though obviously it wouldnt just, literally be desert scourge's ai or behavior

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(thatd be wierd

rotund venture
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so actually there's so many

blazing field
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just, a individual of the desert scourge species that didnt escape the incineration

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so its a freaky zombie now

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zombie lizrd. ..

grave rock
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I cant wait to see what the team cooks up for the remainder of preHM

pseudo vector
blazing field
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but its like,

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Calamitas, Xeroc, Agnus, Signus, Storm Weaver

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They're all in there somewhere

rotund venture
pseudo vector
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people be asking for new bosses but when we rework stuff they're gonna essentially be brand new bosses

gleaming hatch
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i thought theres like zero space for legitimately new bosses

raw falcon
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Fabsolian boss design will be discarded like an old shell

gleaming hatch
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outside of whats already planned

rotund venture
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every boss'll get reworked to be sick as hell and everyone will still be begging for Yharim

grave rock
#

La la

brittle escarp
#

Also, other than the last 3, I don’t think more bosses could be fit in anywhere

gleaming hatch
#

idt there should be more tbh

brittle escarp
raw falcon
rotund venture
#

yes we are saying how the reworks are just pretty much new bosses

gleaming hatch
#

better to iterate on existing content

pseudo vector
#

calamity already has such a massive number of bosses we don't need any more outside of the ones we have planned (yharim, maybe noxus / xeroc)

#

again once we rework stuff it'll feel brand new

native thistle
#

holy molly the new dog is so fun to fight

grave rock
#

Are there any plans for PBG? I feel like post Golem is the most bloated section of the game ngl

rotund venture
#

like reworked hive mind and perfs will be completely different from current

#

so basically new

amber egret
#

i think i will simply not fight PBG until a bit later

raw falcon
gleaming hatch
#

just pray someone makes some cool addon or something if u want new bosses

amber egret
#

melee doesnt get anything incredible from killing them

gleaming hatch
#

like wrath of the gods

pseudo vector
#

or just play other mods

gleaming hatch
#

true

#

play tsa or something

pseudo vector
#

there's more mods out there for folks to play

blazing field
#

signus in the lore:

  • the eldritch enigmatic entity that people think devourer is
  • dosent need to brag and boast and act as the coolest dude ever like devourer, he already just passively farms aura
  • dosen't act on petty impulse or instinct, has long-term goals he carefully makes schemes and plans to reach
  • isn't mindlessly destructive or evil, but more so pragmatic and willing to do immoral shit if it gets him what he wnats

signus ingame:

dies in 3 seconds and reuses corite ai

raw falcon
#

Shoutout to split mod

#

absolutely goated mod

#

go play it

rotund venture
#

has it been updated to 1.4?

grave rock
#

I like Orchid

native thistle
amber egret
raw falcon
blazing field
#

🔥 🔥 [

raw falcon
#

no new content yet though

blazing field
#

signus is probably up there with ravager

raw falcon
#

just the port

rotund venture
#

yoooo

blazing field
#

for the greatest disparity between gameplay vs lore

rotund venture
#

exciting stuff

amber egret
#

Evil2

#

just in general

#

Exo Mechs, actually

raw falcon
#

evil 2 fucking sucks lowkey

blazing field
blazing field
#

cuz even if their gameplay sucks,

amber egret
#

"technica magnum" and you can fly horizontally

rose laurel
blazing field
#

atleast they do have designs that match how cool theyre supposed to be in lore

rose laurel
#

Because Ravager is out of its fucking tier

brittle escarp
#

I like exo mechs honestly

amber egret
#

i mean so is evil2

rotund venture
#

well so are evil2

pseudo vector
#

exos is such a dismal fight

grave rock
#

I only care abt Perfs, Hive Mind is a fake ass boss

gleaming hatch
#

exos are more of a spectacle fight

grave rock
#

Im a crimson fangirl to the end

blazing field
#

like ATLEAST

rose laurel
#

Like

amber egret
#

i enjoy Draedon and his Mechs as a concept, not the mechs as a Fight

rotund venture
#

I do love the buildup to exos

blazing field
#

exos design lives up to expectations

brittle escarp
#

It’s hard at first but not that bad once you learn it

blazing field
#

even if the fight dosent

pseudo vector
#

i've said this before but i was legit questioning what the fuck i've been doing when i fought exos again last year

rotund venture
#

building the codebreaker over the course of the game

#

love that

amber egret
#

i really really really really really wish there was a gamemode or addon where you did shit for draedon

rose laurel
# rose laurel Like

Signus at least is still from the Distortion, Evils 2 from the Evil Biomes and whatnot

dusk bronze
rose laurel
#

You can gather that stuff from what is currently ingame

grave rock
blazing field
#

the more this talk goes on for

gleaming hatch
#

true wheres the ravager lore

#

the update we rlly need

rose laurel
#

Ravager is, literally

blazing field
#

the more obvious it becomes that most of the mods bosses dont match their lore hype at all

#

😭

rotund venture
#

ravager is supposed to be crags right?

#

in lore?

grave rock
#

The devious X axis vs Draedon's greatest creation

rose laurel
#

As far away as possible from its incarnation in any way imaginable

raw falcon
#

Ngl. I dont think exos are an explicitly bad boss, they're just really underwhelming

dull heart
#

no

brittle escarp
blazing field
#

ravager is one of the most tragic bosses in the mod

rose laurel
blazing field
#

ingame its uh

#

golem 2

fathom girder
#

A fair assumption but no Ravager isn't a crag boss

rose laurel
#

PEOPLE DON'T EVEN FUCKING KNOW WHERE RAVAGER IS SUPPOSED TO BE

fathom girder
#

or related to crags in any way

rose laurel
amber egret
#

the longer the ravager/signus/ceaseless void/evil2/exo mechs remain unreworked, the worse they become

rotund venture
#

have I fallen for old speculation?

#

dang

raw falcon
#

ravagers gonna have his own temple structure

blazing field
west ledge
#

seen as class setups is a bit out of date does anyone have any advice for what I should use for plantera? Thinking about hallowed armor for the extra summon slot for the vengeful sun staff but im unsure

amber egret
#

exactly

blazing field
#

iirc ravager is meant to be near the crags

dusk bronze
#

he was gonna be in the crags pre 22

blazing field
#

but not directly on it

amber egret
#

okay so like

cinder hearth
raw falcon
#

why the fuck is the lord of the rings typing

grave rock
#

I assumed the structure where u were gonna fight Rav was gonna be located in crags

amber egret
#

mild thing ive noticed

blazing field
#

though frankly i think the strcutrue being on the crags would be cool

#

bc a post ml crags boss is like

raw falcon
#

what is this middle earth

blazing field
amber egret
#

if you play on a medium world

blazing field
#

otherwise we get brimmy and thats it

rotund venture
hasty tangle
gleaming hatch
#

inb4 you beat golem and the whole temple regenerates into a ravager temple

amber egret
#

your world sounmds like its gonna be Stuffed with structures

dusk bronze
#

nah

blazing field
#

r

fathom girder
#

new calamity vanilla tweak that adds a new world size named Omega

blazing field
fathom girder
#

and it's twice the size of a large world

rose laurel
#

Anyways yeah I think Ravager is easily the Boss currently ingame the furthest away from its canon form

rotund venture
#

actually world size is a concern no?

cinder hearth
tropic jolt
#

ravager versus scavenger

dusk bronze
mighty geyser
#

at least he's actually a flesh thing

amber egret
#

ive made my point abt it before but calamity having Cool Structure is neat, but also Where Does It Fit

rotund venture
#

even with large

rotund venture
#

there's a lot of structures and biomes

#

and more planned

mighty geyser
#

calclone is still a giant rock eye 😭

rotund venture
#

is there enough room?

grave rock
#

Antenizer tomorrow

amber egret
#

i still am stalwart abt sunken sea maybe being a bit too large

raw falcon
amber egret
#

reworked, specifcally

blazing field
#

Dude

#

I'm telling you

#

The longer this convo goes

rotund venture
#

nah I like it going all the way down to hell

blazing field
#

the more it becomes obvious

#

holoy shit dude most of the bosses dont match up to their lore 😭

mighty geyser
amber egret
#

i like the idea of it going to hell but also like The Gigantic Pylon Of Blue And Sand

gleaming hatch
#

its ok

fathom girder
#

The devs can make it make sense

gleaming hatch
#

surely we cant mess up on dog lore

blazing field
raw falcon
#

why is providence a big rock crystal thing

amber egret
#

a single minecart track and the whole thing pours into hell

cinder hearth
gleaming hatch
#

space worm will always be space worm

rose laurel
rotund venture
#

it wont just be sand and blue

blazing field
#

I mean Azafure itself was a pro-yharim civilization

rotund venture
#

itll have sub biomes and stuff

blazing field
#

But it could be built after that

grave rock
#

Provi just looks like that idt theres any disparity

raw falcon
rose laurel
#

Like, Cal Clone at least has Its Deal established

mighty geyser
#

i was talking int erms of the actual sprite

amber egret
#

and Ash

rose laurel
#

Oh sprite-wise it's definitely Cal Clone

raw falcon
#

why is she eye

grave rock
#

Old

gleaming hatch
#

cuz old scal was an eye

grave geyser
#

because she has not had a propper resprite in uhh

#

forever

rose laurel
#

Another Retinazer Clone to Calamity Mod

raw falcon
amber egret
#

Calamity Mod: Holdover

amber egret
dusk bronze
grave rock
#

Antenizer

brittle escarp
#

It never really occurred to me how many bosses are currently other enemy AI, haven’t gotten a resprite, or don’t match with lore

mighty geyser
blazing field
#

Ravager lore: A tragic tale of a man who in his endless kindness did everything for his people, going as far as to sacrifice himself for their survival, but was forced to be brought back as a mindless husk of his former self, incapable of being nothing more than a monstrosity that destroyed anything in his path, even the people he once swore to protect

brittle escarp
#

I guess I’m just used to it lol

rose laurel
blazing field
#

ravager ingame:

grave geyser
#

scions has done infinitely more for old duke than old duke has in the past 6 years

blazing field
#

gruugh im gonna. ravage you gruugh

amber egret
#

speaking of ravager i fought it just yesterday

blazing field
#

jumps at you

amber egret
#

i am a fan of breaking the rock walls with a picksaw

rose laurel
#

Like yeah Exos fucking sucks ingame but they're also BY FAR the Bosses with the most defined ingame lore and specifications ingame

brittle escarp
#

Dragonfolly is fine

raw falcon
brittle escarp
#

True, I am also an exo mechs fan

rotund venture
#

ye exos very much match the lore

amber egret
#

Dragonfolly, some fucking how, is Okay

blazing field
#

Dragonfolly generally is fine id say

brittle escarp
#

Personally

mighty geyser
#

wtf

rotund venture
#

right up until the fight sucking

blazing field
#

Like yeah it dosent PERFECTLY match its planned lore

mighty geyser
#

wrong paste

grave geyser
mighty geyser
#

i boar myself

amber egret
#

Ha Ha your link doesnt Embed

blazing field
#

But its still just

dusk bronze
rose laurel
#

And?

blazing field
#

Dragon Bird that shoots Electricity at you

mighty geyser
blazing field
#

It's not like

raw falcon
#

oh yeah question is old duke still gonna get murdered in cold blood

blazing field
#

completely different

#

no

rose laurel
#

Like half of their mechanics are still being kept

amber egret
#

Exos i think would be Cooler if they actually had Synergy Attacks instead of just Attacking At The Same Time

rose laurel
#

Just made to not be dogshit

grave geyser
#

the good part about exos is that the only things they need are for their fight to be good and for them to have a propper music track

blazing field
#

idk where people got that from, removing old duke was never gonna be a thing 😭

amber egret
#

i hate to compared to crossmod but Infernum does that Well

fathom girder
#

it was joked about

grave geyser
raw falcon
#

was it triangle?

gleaming hatch
#

there are "patterns" ig the more u play the fight

blazing field
#

triangle is literally one of the people who has been

#

working on old duke the most

#

hes literally john old duke

raw falcon
#

One of the spriters at least

grave rock
#

The issue with Exos is they suck not that they don't match their lore

fathom girder
#

but "removing old duke" was more implied to be replacing old duke's current fight entirely

mighty geyser
raw falcon
#

I dont remember which

fathom girder
#

he's still going to be old duke

rotund venture
#

yo Triangle made the sick pig dragon sprite right?

lethal kraken
#

this playthrough other then doing exo before clam i think it will be first time i fight them in my own world as when like the update that added them came i downloaded a no hit entire world sized arena to do them

rotund venture
#

is that still getting used?

#

or not?

amber egret
#

Exos, sprite wise and design wise, fits their lore well

blazing field
grave rock
#

They have by far the best buildup and general Lore in the mod

amber egret
#

its just gameplay wise

dusk bronze
blazing field
#

just say hes getting entirely redone

fathom girder
#

Pig dragon sprite isn't making it iirc?

blazing field
#

which is like, very true

grave geyser
#

frankly I think od is a very low priority fight to change
its one of the better fabsolian fights and its very out of the way

fathom girder
#

I think they're going for a different design

rose laurel
#

If you're gonna say "they don't match their lore because they don't work together" then you also have to add Calamitas to the list because she doesn't fucking burn an ocean on screen

grave geyser
#

sg / yharon / exos / clone

rose laurel
dusk bronze
grave geyser
#

are like the big 4 of "these are way too shit for what they should be"

blazing field
#

fair nuff i suppose

gleaming hatch
#

true lets burn the ocean for fun

blazing field
#

i still think it gives kinda the wrong idea,

vocal kelp
#

they dont match their lore because its out of character for draedon to be so fucking lame designing machines

amber egret
gleaming hatch
#

we only need one body of water anyways

blazing field
#

to people who dont know the specifics fo it

fathom girder
mighty geyser
fathom girder
#

such an overhaul thing to do lmao

grave geyser
grave geyser
#

and isnt nearly as important to the mod as a whole

#

you could remove ravager and not much would change about the current mod

raw falcon
#

is scal ever gonna get a fight overhaul beyond brothers btw? I know her fight is fine as it is atm, but I think there could be a lot more done with her tbh

dusk bronze
#

yharon is

fine

amber egret
#

Yharon is such a slow fight

#

he's so slow

blazing field
raw falcon
#

peak

blazing field
#

just not

#

priority rn

amber egret
#

he's like physically not fast enough compared to the player at that stage

fathom girder
blazing field
#

cuz shes already one of the better fights

gleaming hatch
#

scal is like lower in the priority list

rose laurel
#

Yeah SCal is like

mighty geyser
#

literally the lowest priority

amber egret
#

so you're basically just chasing thme

rotund venture
#

Scal is fine

rose laurel
#

Probably the lowest priority boss to change in the entire mod

lethal kraken
#

oh hey i actually have a resprite question and stuff like is calclone gonna continue being an eye because im fine either way and actually think the eye is really cool but just curious

rotund venture
#

doesn't need any urgent changes at all

mighty geyser
#

any other boss needs changes more

grave geyser
#

the only bosses I think dont eventually warrent a full overhaul are like
brain and maybe provi

blazing field
#

Scal could 100% be better, but she is fine as is atm, so

#

v low priority

raw falcon
# blazing field priority rn

yeah i know, it wouldn't be the end of the world if she never did, again, her fights decent atm, it'd just be nice

blazing field
#

she'll most likely get changes way later

rose laurel
#

How much I thought about Providence

#

And how much I'm like

#

Holy shit.

fathom girder
#

Brain JUST got a rework luhmao

rose laurel
#

She actually kinda sucks.

dusk bronze
#

THAT'S WHAT I BEEN SAYING

lethal kraken
#

Provimongus

raw falcon
rotund venture
#

providence is weird because you don't want an arena

raw falcon
#

her fight is lowk kinda ass

blazing field
#

i very much think providence could get changed tbh

I think that literally any of the reused code bosses are actually actively limiting what can be done with the boss even if the execution is good

rose laurel
#

No it's not because of that

rotund venture
#

no floor allowed

fathom girder
#

imo the only good part about providence is her hallow laser beam of death

vocal kelp
#

providence is super fucking bad but shes like top of the pile for calamity standards

rose laurel
#

It's because, I will ask you this

blazing field
gleaming hatch
#

providence ive heard only ppl liking or hating the boss

amber egret
#

providence is Kinda Ass

blazing field
#

very low priority

gleaming hatch
#

no inbetween

rose laurel
#

The answer is

amber egret
#

this is either because im just Too Good for the game, or her fights just Not Fun

rose laurel
#

You run

fathom girder
#

rungod

rose laurel
#

A lot

raw falcon
grave geyser
#

fight wise (night) provi is still the best fight in the mod imo
the 2 reworks come close for me but still not quite there

amber egret
#

i Loooooove Rungod

rose laurel
#

And then stop for the coccoons

blazing field
#

I LOVE RUNGODDING!!

#

RAHHHH

amber egret
#

i love cardio

fathom girder
#

rungod until she does her hallow duo beam

rose laurel
#

The ONLY REASON

rotund venture
#

you also float a little when dodging bullet hell

amber egret
#

RAHHHHHHH

lethal kraken
#

i agree that bosses could and will get better but actually doing another playthrough i've enjoyed the bosses still for the most part

rose laurel
#

Providence is considered good

fathom girder
#

and then after her hallow duo beam you go back to rungodding

rose laurel
#

Is because the coccoons are Actual Attacks you have to Dodge

blazing field
#

WE ARE HORSES 🐎 WE ARE HORSES 🐎

vocal kelp
#

her movement behaviour being copied isnt even really that much of a problem it jsut fucking sucks big balls like ice queen movement is not somethig you want for a boss

blazing field
#

I LOVE RUNGODDDD

rose laurel
#

And they, infact

blazing field
#

GLORY TO THE HORSE GOD AND HIS VISION

#

I LOOOOOOOOVE RUNGODD 🐴 🐴

rose laurel
#

Actively punish rungodding

dusk bronze
#

i mainly hate providence because true melee is so FUCKING ANNOYING OH MY GOD STOP FLYING UP

vocal kelp
#

you are truking rn

rose laurel
#

So Providence is like

rotund venture
#

fair enough but there's way more urgent stuff than provi

rose laurel
#

Half the fight is just rungodding

raw falcon
#

Everytime you try to dodge her other attacks without running she spawns them in your face and you eat hits anyways

grave geyser
rose laurel
#

And the other half of the fight is actually pretty good

still bluff
#

Provi is half of a great fight unlike every other boss which isnt one at all

vocal kelp
grave geyser
fathom girder
#

Boc and DoG are the only truly good fights rn

#

tbh

amber egret
grave rock
#

I like SCal

still bluff
#

Boss aims to be out of range above the player at all times

amber egret
#

whoops! drifted into your face! take this 300 damage gigablast liberal

gleaming hatch
#

isnt there also the crystal and laser atk

rose laurel
#

Ultimately yeah reworking Providence is moreso a matter of making her base moveset actually interesting, the coccoons and scissor laser don't need anything

raw falcon
rotund venture
#

oh a dev said recently the next update has already been decided internally, which 10 days after Brainstorm is pretty crazy so is that true?

lethal kraken
#

this convo is a lot better then ones i've seen on youtuber or whatever that just demonize people for liking the fights still for some reason

rose laurel
gleaming hatch
rose laurel
#

Because the crystal rain is 30 times harder than the scissor beam

still bluff
rose laurel
blazing field
#

For me with any reused code boss you should look at it and go. is reusing code actually fullfilling the boss's "fantasy" properly and fitting well with what the boss's fight should be and making it fun and etc

and like most of the time its just a No and its actively limtiing that fantasy if anything, even if the execution can be good

in part because frankly mos vanilla bosses really aren't that great in my humble opinion

fathom girder
#

crystal rain tries and fails to hinder rungodding

blazing field
#

vanilla bosses are designed mostly to be

grave geyser
blazing field
#

very simple

lethal kraken
mighty geyser
blazing field
#

and event bosses specially,

#

are meant to be things you kill alot of in quick succession

fathom girder
#

Green needle update

dusk bronze
mighty geyser
#

it adds 3 new scourges to the sulph sea

blazing field
#

so promoting a event boss to a proper boss

#

is

rose laurel
#

But I also think the crystal rain is too much

rotund venture
blazing field
#

its gonna have issues

mighty geyser
#

and does not change aquatic scourge at all

lethal kraken
#

Calamity cryptid update new exotic jonkler boss

blazing field
#

exotic jonkler

#

post yharim

rose laurel
#

OH YEAH AND ALSO

gleaming hatch
#

the choice of biome to fight her in is nice tho

#

to pick atks

rose laurel
#

I'M FUCKING ANNIHILATING THE GUARDIAN PHASE

#

I FUCKING HATE THE GUARDIAN PHASE SO FUCKING MUCH

dusk bronze
#

WOOOOOOOOOO

grave geyser
still bluff
#

I'M ADDKNG 3 MORE GUARDIAN PHASES

lethal kraken
#

i think in my rogue playthrough ongoing the one bit of a fight i really didnt like was the tornado phase of storm eater

still bluff
#

FUCK YOU

rose laurel
#

WE ARE KILLING FLUFFY TOMORROW

grave geyser
#

half the reason night prov is so much better than day prov is that guardian phase IS FUCKING DEAD

tulip ether
#

should i use chaos stone or any item to auto use mana potions?

dusk bronze
blazing field
rotund venture
raw falcon
blazing field
#

Like

tulip ether
blazing field
#

If i want a boss to have a spinny big laser

#

right

next comet
#

yo guys, bladecrest oathesword isnt spawing in any of the chests. tried farming demons for it. still cant seem to get it

still bluff
#

Biome mimic slime god is adding lots to the fight
If they didn't do that they wouldnt move or attack

blazing field
#

theres nothin wrong with just reusing the base of ml's laser

rose laurel
blazing field
#

and just tweaking it to add any small propertie changes i might want

#

Cuz that's just, less owkr

grave geyser
blazing field
#

theres no reason to make a entirely new laser in this case

grave geyser
#

the only real problem I have with nightprov is that build variety doesnt exist

blazing field
#

but now entirely using ml's base for the boss,

lethal kraken
#

hey if dev's are in chat rn i wanna say again that you should add Glorp to calamity

blazing field
#

yeah thats just

#

restrictive

rotund venture
rose laurel
blazing field
#

unless the boss i want to make is just the fucking Sun Lord or something and its just oragne moon lord

fathom girder
blazing field
#

😭

fathom girder
#

guardian phase is-

#

wait

fathom girder
#

right

fathom girder
#

no you're right guardians are dead lmao

rose laurel
#

Yes they're FUCKING DEAD

still bluff
rotund venture
#

we killed they yuri poly

#

cancel the Terrarian

raw falcon
#

rip guardians

fathom girder
#

I agree that crystal rain could use a rework, I'm curious as to what you'd do with it

raw falcon
#

yuri is cancelled sorgy

blazing field
#

to compensate we're adding back the three distortion bosses to be spawned in devourer's fight even though it makes no fucking sense

tropic jolt
#

yuriphobic terrarian 💔

dusk bronze
fathom girder
#

It's such a support attack that I assume you'd have to wait until the rest of her kit is reworked right?

rose laurel
#

True...

still bluff
#

Guardians will no longer be a boss, instead they will be fought at 50% of provi like old sentinels phase