#calamity-update-talk

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visual kernel
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whats the best new melee weapon right into hardmode

dusk bronze
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comet quasher

fierce hearth
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I like ion blaster it's yummy

barren nacelle
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Back reading and I like the fact that this is a frankensprite. It’s just 3 eocs merged

fierce hearth
barren nacelle
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I looove new apoctosis array

fierce hearth
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Ion blaster is just so much fun

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Will love to use apoctosis ray

hardy gulch
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six months but its sunken sea overhaul

visual kernel
dusk bronze
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kill evil1 again

halcyon seal
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when is ccr adding this guy

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maybe then itll be a good mod

fierce hearth
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Beat evil 1's ass

blazing field
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get to it yuh

hardy gulch
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take the precaution of killing evil 1 several times to increase the meteorite payoffs

acoustic palm
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Yo anyone know any money glitches?

halcyon seal
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ccr antenizer with. whats enemy id 0

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just give it that ai

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and like 200k health

earnest jewel
halcyon seal
dusk bronze
acoustic palm
earnest jewel
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?

dusk bronze
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whar

fierce hearth
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What

acoustic palm
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Like I talk in 3 different channels and you went to each one

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Just tell me I’m in the wrong one

earnest jewel
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...I did?

acoustic palm
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It’s a open chat I can talk about what I want to talk about

dusk bronze
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you don't need to ask in multiple channels

earnest jewel
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What are you talking about?

dusk bronze
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also yeah i'm looking at every chat and that didn't happen

acoustic palm
halcyon seal
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but youre not in general

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youre in a chat about the calamity mod and discussing its updates

acoustic palm
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Am I gonna get banned now?

halcyon seal
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no but youll probably get verbal warned and that just kinda feels bad im gonna be real

earnest jewel
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Probably not, but people will think you're a lunatic.

fierce hearth
acoustic palm
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I haven’t said anything wrong

halcyon seal
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i mean if you want me to go through the rules i can tell you rq

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rule 7, keep on-topic in channels

fierce hearth
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Do not be disruptive, etc

cunning crag
dusk bronze
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youtube guides clueless

acoustic palm
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Like I’m just asking a simple question and I get told your in the wrong chat

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Like

dusk bronze
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maybe ask in the correct chat if you don't want that to happen then wires

acoustic palm
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It doesn’t matter the chat dude

fierce hearth
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Anyway, about atenizer

earnest jewel
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It does. That's why there are multiple. Not sure why you're trying to be a nuisance.

dusk bronze
fierce hearth
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Atenizer summon weapon..

halcyon seal
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antenizer dev pet when

dusk bronze
fierce hearth
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Atenizer pet is pretty good

halcyon seal
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carny thats your dev item now sorry i make the rules

fierce hearth
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Antenizer summon weapon that spews ants at enemies

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We're making a real difference for the future of the mod

acoustic palm
earnest jewel
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Don't bother Xzier, it's intentional.

acoustic palm
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It’s not

dusk bronze
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1: keeping on topic is nice for everyone involved
2: different people are active in different channels, so you're more likely to have responses from people that know a solution in the correct channel

acoustic palm
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If different people are active in different t channels wouldn’t it make sense to ask in multiple channels to get different opinions?

dusk bronze
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not really no

acoustic palm
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How

earnest jewel
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Your question is entirely unrelated to this channel, and all evidence points to this being an intentional attempt to derail prior conversation.

acoustic palm
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Like

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I guess im not trying to say something to what he said

fierce hearth
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Also the purpose of multiple channels is to spread out conversation so that people don't talk over each other or that a single subject dominates all of the server. Bringing the same thing up in multiple channels entirely defeats the point of why there are multiple channels

acoustic palm
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Hmm okay I see what you mean

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Your actually giving me a reason

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I apologize for using the channel in a wrong way I still do think if I just got an answer instead of like just saying it’s the wrong channel it would of been a faster way to resolve the conflict

earnest jewel
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Quit with the trolling, it's gotten old.

acoustic palm
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Like no one’s trolling but ok?

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And what in that message implies I’m trolling?

fierce hearth
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I don't think this is trolling, just headstrong and unaware of big server etiquette. Let's just get back on topic bc the problem is resolved now anyway

earnest jewel
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I've seen enough trolling to identify it.

fierce hearth
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I'm against plantera next and need to gear up for her. I forgot how much I struggled against mech bosses lmao

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I wanna melee her but man she vomits so much bullshit

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Kinda disappointed there isn't much new stuff to use against her

acoustic palm
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What are you using rn?

fierce hearth
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Pwnage hammer is my plan, but is there anything new post-mech to use? Reworks?

hardy gulch
fierce hearth
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Mage and summon are also on the table

rough quartz
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Any 1.4.5 concepts for calamity portraits?

acoustic palm
hardy gulch
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ahhh Shroomble

weary current
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Is it normal that animations randomly break in multiplayer? Haven't had this issue prior to the update

earnest jewel
hardy gulch
acoustic palm
lapis oak
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tupid limzard

rare tinsel
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killing you

lapis oak
fierce hearth
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Blows up

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But I will use hellkite when I can

hardy gulch
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that one weapon in the biome blade line that you can get post plantera

fierce hearth
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O right yeah true biome stink

hardy gulch
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i havent calamitied in quite a while

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idk if its good

fierce hearth
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I will try that bc I've used pwnage to death in previous runs

dusty kayak
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just want to let everyone whos wondering know theres an updated ranger guide on Clotz youtube channel

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all classes except rogue have an updated guide currently

earnest jewel
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You want us to trust a YouTube guide!? A bold assertion.

dull heart
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those tend to suck yes

fierce hearth
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Guides are for fools. Craft every weapon and brute force testing

vivid hemlock
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use weapons that are cool :thumby:

lapis oak
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I love Ghost Bracelet vanity

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it's so cute

vivid hemlock
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number 1 way to play the game

lapis oak
dusty tinsel
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Hello KiriBlue

lapis oak
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u

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the demon from hell

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😨

vivid hemlock
dusty tinsel
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Nah I am an angel

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I have added 50 electrons to you without you even knowing

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Enjoy

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In the past like 2 months

lapis oak
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what the fuck

vivid hemlock
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fucked up

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anyways theres a potential of atleast 4 new mage accessories in the fture!!!!

lapis oak
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@ sunny savior

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I still need to backread all those stuff since last time I went offline for a bit

vivid hemlock
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feather and moonstone crowns, flesh totem and the hallowed bangle 🥹

lapis oak
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and update the chart

sweet stump
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this doesnt look right

vivid hemlock
lapis oak
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oh god it's the Mechanic Shed spawn all over again

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1 new structure and it's back to 0

sweet stump
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the horrors of custom structure

earnest jewel
terse dew
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Oil

vivid hemlock
terse dew
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They should add the United States invasion event where the US invades your terraria land for oil.

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🤩

lapis oak
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OMG WAIT

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Rancor's Lava effect got changed????

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holy shit

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it doesn't look like total glorpshit anymore that's peak

vivid hemlock
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xyk will rework tears of heaven one day 🙏

cobalt wharf
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it has to be specifically above the shimmer

hardy gulch
fathom girder
upper bone
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loving this new update 👌

stable dove
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he made an extra drone of himself

vestal osprey
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You know what would be cool, imagine if the layer 4 abyss enemies dropped thier weapons at any time

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I think a massive sequence breaking weapon would be a great reward for somehow managing to kill one early

buoyant pulsar
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moooooooooore mage accessories that dramatically alter the way mana functions

vestal osprey
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I think thats already planned

buoyant pulsar
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i need even more

vestal osprey
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The feather and moonstone crown along with the flesh totem are planned to be reworked into mage accessories

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(Though we have no idea what theyre gonna do)

upper bone
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Can i send videos in here?

vestal osprey
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No

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I've tried before and I couldnt, I think you need special permisions

upper bone
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Okay ty

arctic cliff
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what you need to do is upload, not send. Copying a file here doesnt get the embeds.
For instance, in order for me to embed and share this oddly familiar dancing 8 gif, i had to upload it myself

vivid hemlock
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this is how mage will enter heaven

halcyon seal
arctic cliff
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probably stock stuff

vestal osprey
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Maybe the sigil of calamitas and Etheral talisman will get reworked too

stable sinew
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cant get malice to show when world is in legendary mode

vivid hemlock
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also basic stat sticks

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they arent inherently bad its just that theyre usually the only mage accs and its really stale and boring because of that

vestal osprey
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Fair

arctic cliff
vestal osprey
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I just think they could have just a little somthing extra

Like the sigil of calamitas making magic attacks occaninally burst in brimstone blasts, like an upgraded Batholith Bangle

arctic cliff
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he advised me to let him in, lest i lose my access to volcano facts

vivid hemlock
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i do agree with that

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makes them feel more mechanically like an upgrade and not just the same accessory but with higher stats

vestal osprey
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Speaking of accessoires there is somthing I would love to see

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So we have the amalgamated brain and bloody worm scarf being combinations of the evil bosses expert drops

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Yet only the amalgamated brain has an updrade, I think it be cool if the bloody worm scarf has one too

amber egret
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The Bloodshed

vestal osprey
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Although I wouldnt be suprised if they are planned to get a rework with the boss shift of evil 2 bosses

amber egret
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i mean they still could have amalgamated brain and like

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fluffy worm scarf

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since dragonfollys gonna be there

fathom girder
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fluffy worm scarf goes hard

vestal osprey
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I mean thier base drops, the rotten brain and bloody worm tooth

amber egret
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yeah

fathom girder
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I'm actually so down if fluffy worm scarf is the thing they do

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lmao

vestal osprey
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All thier drops are gonna get completly reworked to feel closer to endgame

amber egret
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you just have the brain/tooth be used for the amalgam/whatever scarf is gonna be

arctic cliff
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i honestly want a big combination accessory thats just a combination of various movement accessories i like
slagsplitter, gravistar sabtatons or whatever they're called now, as well as whatever will inherit the godslayer dash (which ive headr is nebulous core but that could change)

get lijke this funny movement set that allows you to do multiple kinds of empowered dashes

amber egret
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and you have amalgamated brain/bws be using a dragonfolly expert drop (thats maybe a feather of some kind)

wise bolt
amber egret
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like whats up danger

vestal osprey
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As much as I love combination accessories, I think calamity is not planning to do that

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Thats fargos specilty

amber egret
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man i wish i could just dump my Ideas

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i lack Money !!!

low bone
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So anyone have idea why terraprism now droped by day Eol? like its not suiting calamity mod, its not best summoner weapon in game

vestal osprey
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Oh it is now?

amber egret
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it used to just drop all the time, which was good for overall balance

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the issue was that its really really good and balanced around a challenge

vestal osprey
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Didnt terraprisma get nerfed compared to vanilla?

low bone
amber egret
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wasnt it like

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second best

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right behind stardust cell staff

low bone
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And some minion mixing can get even better result

low bone
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I understand if its got nerfed like now its dropped like 10% chance but its now locked with boss harder than moonlord and its worse than moonlord weapons

eager zealot
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DOES ANYONE ELSES MAGIC MISSILE FIRE TWO PROJECTILES

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OR IS THAT JUST A ME THING

dusty kayak
arctic cliff
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its also fucking busted, too busted ngl

eager zealot
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yea

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its ridiculous

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it kills inf WoF faster than the nights ray

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like sub 60 seconds

arctic cliff
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but then again, slime god isnt a fun fight unless you do like addon difficulties

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yikes

eager zealot
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magic missile is from dungeon chests

patent orbit
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Slime god....exists. It's not bad, just kinda there

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It's nice it's "optional"

hot wadi
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guys I found another bug (mod conflict)

arctic cliff
hot wadi
eager zealot
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like

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period

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you use it for WoF

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magic missile is like by far and away the best dungeon weapon

arctic cliff
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not surprising

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because yea

halcyon seal
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Did magic missile get buffed this update?

eager zealot
halcyon seal
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I used it in bh and it was pretty good but nothing incredible

dusty kayak
eager zealot
dusty kayak
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not u

eager zealot
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most yt guides are riddled with incorrect info

halcyon seal
eager zealot
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jsyk

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like

arctic cliff
eager zealot
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theyre fine as a baseline

patent orbit
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RIP Oynx Drill. I'll miss my speed tunnels

eager zealot
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but if you want actually good class setups you gotta look elsewhere

dusty kayak
halcyon seal
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Def worth picking up if you’ve got big excavation plans

patent orbit
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It's fine. I'm happier that Skyline Wings are pre Skeletron now instead of post

eager zealot
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@dusty kayak Like this SS from the most recent clotz guide has no mention of the batholith bangle.

the batholith bangle gives you an avg of 65 dps for free which is wildly broken all the way through early HM and he cuts it out after Evil 2

arctic cliff
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okay that doesnt do justice

orchid finch
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youtube guides 🥀

eager zealot
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so if you want some generic setups then yea

arctic cliff
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Batholith does 600+ damage per burst

eager zealot
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those yt things or the wiki

arctic cliff
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which is

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fucking insane

eager zealot
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yea

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free

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60+ dps

arctic cliff
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like in pre-hm that shits obscenely op

eager zealot
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on any mage weapon

patent orbit
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Do we know if the Atherium Structure in the Jungle always means the Shimmer is below it or is that only Large Worlds?

wide wadi
arctic cliff
patent orbit
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That's handy

halcyon seal
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I think the aetherium structure is on the exact center of your shimmer

eager zealot
halcyon seal
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Just uh, make sure you don’t accidentally bring any water down

patent orbit
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YEAH

dusty kayak
patent orbit
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Sponges exist though so meh

granite sapphire
patent orbit
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or buckets

dusty kayak
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this is like my 5th calamity run

eager zealot
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yt guides + wiki are good to get a general idea but they are by no means correct setups at all

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they just get you through

halcyon seal
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Personally I think if a guide isn’t going to be optimal it’s just more fun to ignore it

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If you want to make a guide you really should include the most boring and no fun ways to play if they’re the best ones

eager zealot
halcyon seal
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And if you don’t want to follow a guide like that, just play the game how you wanna play it lol

arctic cliff
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i mean gallerium you kinda started this by saying "yall are kinda losers"

halcyon seal
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Calamity is not a very hard mod on its intended difficulty you can kinda just pick weapons you like and go from there

arctic cliff
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which is uh

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inflammatory

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ya dont do that!

dusty kayak
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that was hostile but its not world ending

eager zealot
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also no mention of the sea spirit amulet

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+42 dps avg

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on any class any weapon

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if you are above 50%

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lol!

dusty kayak
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wow yeah thats really good pre hardmode

eager zealot
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its literallypost scourge and you use it up till WoF

arctic cliff
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like, i get what you mean, you're probably unhappy about people being overly repulsed by youtuber guides

eager zealot
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i havent done HM comparisons with it yet

arctic cliff
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but you can just say instead "ya'll are kinda mean"

dusty kayak
rugged cloak
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we got shroomble before yharim

eager zealot
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lowk imma drop some fire yt guides next update in july

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i gotchu

wise bolt
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dont follow guides man. go in totally blind and eat shit for 5 hr until u figure it out ✌️

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(dont do that lmfao

dusty kayak
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at least they work somewhat well lol

dusty kayak
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def keeping in mind theyre not the best tho

halcyon seal
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Kinda real

wise bolt
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honestly man. whatever works for u

fathom girder
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the guides don't tell you about niche item number five that you secretly know how to make op

wise bolt
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if u like following guides, by all means follow em
if u dont like guides, uhh idk. fuck around n have fun ?

halcyon seal
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Lowkey I think the terraria community as a whole has become WAY too dependent on guides but that’s a topic for another time

gloomy grove
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honestly i never really got why this community loves guides alot

dusty kayak
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i dont see why thats an issue really, im probably biased but at the end of the day its single player or multi with friends lol

wise bolt
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i icant be assed to pull up a guide i just do fuckin whatever and then if i get stuck i just go to bed

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a mimir

fathom girder
gloomy grove
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what about it

halcyon seal
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Astrum Deus what bed size do you use

fathom girder
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fargos feels like I'm going into a noita run

eager zealot
wise bolt
gloomy grove
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i feel like just fucking around and finding out is very fun

wise bolt
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my only frame of reference for progression that i can bother to actually pull up is fuckifng boss checklist soab

unkempt grove
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how's it going

gloomy grove
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if im following a very firm set of instructions on what to obtain/do/get in my game i dont think i would find that fun

fathom girder
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I don't follow guides and end up killing aquatic scourge pre wof in like every run

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because I just can

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and it makes wof easy

halcyon seal
wise bolt
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it depends on the individual honesly

gloomy grove
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at the end of the day its a subjective topic yeah

wise bolt
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doesnt hurt to use guides but i guess the thing is likeee. if ur overly reliant on them it takes away from gameplay

gloomy grove
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if ur overly reliant on them it takes away from gameplay
which i find alot of people in this community do

unkempt grove
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i think it's usually more fun to play the game without a guide and just see what happens

wise bolt
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you aren't exploring and experiencing the game as you should, and instead kind of going thru it like instructions to assemble furniture

gloomy grove
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update was out for like 2 days and people already asking for when the class guide is updated or if theres a new guide to follow..

halcyon seal
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Yeah I’ve seen so many people in this community be physically unable to come up with builds unless someone gives some to them

gloomy grove
halcyon seal
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One thing I’ve been doing, if someone asks for help outside of the help channel, ask them if they’ve actually used their build

wise bolt
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i can understand maybe class guides for cal or terraria but if its for gameplay/progression/where to go and whatnot its like hmmm. okay

wise bolt
gloomy grove
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i dont know who asked me a couple days back but someone here asked me if i never looked up a guide for silksong when i brought up that people should rely on wikis less.. 😔

wise bolt
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i think the story quests are usually guide enough but some of the later game stuff can be confusing to find

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couldnt figure out whhere the hell widow was for a while so i just spent ages running around doing everything else instead

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i guess thats kinda the point tho. cant find it ? run around, smack some walls, do some quests

gloomy grove
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yeah

wise bolt
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don;t just like, rush thru all of it

gloomy grove
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also the big ant that gates hunter's march filtering people

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very big sign saying that if you cant beat this; come back later when youre stronger

wise bolt
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!!! yhea

gloomy grove
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but people insist that the ant is too strong

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its the kind of non-linearity that i love tbh

wise bolt
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big enemy early game
visually telling that its aggressive and very strong
also really hard to actually kill
"this things too tough :/"

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brah

fathom girder
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People scorned Silksong for that and turned around to say that's why elden ring is the best

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people are stupid

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end of story

gloomy grove
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also 100% is not that bad with map markers

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significantly easier even

wise bolt
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i need to get map markers and use them except every time i go to shakra i go hmmm,. nah im not gonna need it and then dont get them

gloomy grove
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if you refuse to mark things on your map backtracking is soo much harder and my friend got punished for that while going for 100%

wise bolt
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YEAH

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a lot of my struggles with the game are entirely self caused. honestly. im also just generally bad at games KekW but i like playing like that. its fun to me

gloomy grove
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lmaoo yeah its fine

halcyon seal
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There is no way team cherry wasn’t inspired by ds1

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It’s all over the place

fathom girder
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My argument is that silksong is fundamentally solid and not janky as shit

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unlike dark souls

wise bolt
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though that does kind of make me wonder though, like, i seem to have no problem breezing through the ori games but things like hollow knight and silksong i'll have some pretty substantial struggles with at some stage, even though both are the same genre and overall fairly similar...? (i think so anyway, idk actually

fathom girder
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It's just a hard metroidvania

halcyon seal
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It is a hard metroidvania but it feels so dark souls esque in its exploration

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Way moreso than the original HK ever did

fathom girder
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hm

wise bolt
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okay. so its a skill issue then SkyLOL

fathom girder
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ds1 is very good with its world

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like you can just go anywhere if you so deign it

halcyon seal
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Yeah

fathom girder
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I can see that with silksong's buncha routes yeah

halcyon seal
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That’s why I hate it when people use “the dark souls of x” as a generic name for whatever hard thing came out

wise bolt
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non linear yea ?

halcyon seal
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Because like, Silksong is an actual dark souls of x and it’s fucking awesome

halcyon seal
wise bolt
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non linearity is nice.. though it can sometimes be overhwhelming

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starting off at least

fathom girder
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I'm so dogshit at exploring metroidvanias that I still don't know how to get to the alternate routes in silksong

uneven field
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do yall think we will ever be able to see a yharim boss fight?

hasty tangle
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yeah

uneven field
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how many years?

wise bolt
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pros: flexible progression, go to whoever and learn whatever whenever. come back later if you are struggling
cons: where am i

hasty tangle
gloomy grove
uneven field
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wow

hasty tangle
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hes not getting in the game until calamity is done

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he is dead last

gloomy grove
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yharim is the last thing they will ever add to top off the mod main content wise

uneven field
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i hope to be allive until then

still bluff
still bluff
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hollow knight makes so much more sense in my brain

uneven field
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what is going to come?

amber egret
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what areas have pre-built arenas

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like vernal pass and archives

still bluff
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and the combat isn't nearly hard enough for me to counter that

wise bolt
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that's interesting to me

amber egret
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i know theres like three but i dont remember the last one

gloomy grove
wise bolt
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first or second game ?

still bluff
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1st

wise bolt
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ohh

uneven field
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what are the calamity mod admins working on right now?

wise bolt
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okay, that makes some sense

gloomy grove
still bluff
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haven't tried the 2nd yet, want to do the 1st beforehand lol

uneven field
wise bolt
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OH NO DEFINITELY.

still bluff
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it's a struggle tho i don't know what's going on or where to find literally anything 😭

gloomy grove
wise bolt
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do u need help ..i can offer tips

still bluff
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i'm worried i'm going to take an item, use it somewhere across the map, then never find the one i was meant to sue

wise bolt
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<so. mentally ill about ori

still bluff
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uhhh i cuold probably stream it at smpoint it's been a bit since i played proplery lol

wise bolt
fathom girder
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They worked on SSo/brainstorm for three years

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let em breathe a little

wise bolt
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there's no really like, collectibles so there's nothing you're going to use too early on which'll lock you out of something later so it's not something you need to be worries about

still bluff
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SSO fornever

wise bolt
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also wait are u playing base game or definitive edition

still bluff
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definitive

wise bolt
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HUZZAAH

brittle escarp
wise bolt
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EXTRA ABILITIES AND LORE LETS GOOOO

still bluff
#

XD

brittle escarp
wise bolt
#

YES

brittle escarp
#

Its so beautiful

still bluff
#

hang on i'll install it on the other computer i can't run it on the craptop

wise bolt
#

guy that really likes ori

brittle escarp
#

prettiest game I have ever played by far

#

sequel too

steep pagoda
#

helloo everykitty

wise bolt
#

YOU FUCKIGN UNDERSTAAAANDDD

brittle escarp
steep pagoda
#

!

#

what is going on

wise bolt
#

i love the ori games so much uuhhuhuohougugghghjkg

gloomy grove
steep pagoda
#

is this ori talk

fathom girder
#

it was three

steep pagoda
#

the hk clone?

wise bolt
#

celeri

fathom girder
#

SSO was meant to release in 2024

steep pagoda
#

IM KIDDIGN

#

DON'T kill me

wise bolt
#

you are on thin fucking ice

fathom girder
#

meaning it was in the works since before very likely

brittle escarp
steep pagoda
#

IM SORGY

brittle escarp
#

rend their flesh from their bones

fathom girder
#

wait ori?

wise bolt
#

yaa

fathom girder
#

I love their take on HK

#

it's kinda like

#

modded HK

gloomy grove
steep pagoda
brittle escarp
steep pagoda
#

TRUE??

fathom girder
#

LMAO

gloomy grove
steep pagoda
#

PEAK ragebait

brittle escarp
#

It still feels like late 2024 lowkey

wise bolt
#

i cant say that ill get jkilled by mods actually

steep pagoda
#

is this a justified crashout

brittle escarp
wise bolt
fathom girder
#

Tofu c'mon

wise bolt
brittle escarp
#

fair

steep pagoda
#

laame

wise bolt
#

plus there are younger kids here

steep pagoda
#

boeingg!

brittle escarp
wise bolt
#

sinetgubg something .setting an example. not that i gaf but i'd like to not be publicly scolded

lean relic
wise bolt
#

-5 aura

still bluff
#

alr i'm going to play more ori

steep pagoda
brittle escarp
#

Dope

wise bolt
#

im at uniiii i cant watch :(

steep pagoda
#

just out of frame

still bluff
#

damnn

brittle escarp
#

I am watching JJK rn, but plan to watch CSM after since they seem pretty similar

still bluff
#

lmk when you can i'll stream it somewhere XD

wise bolt
still bluff
#

i need to figure out what i was doing rn anyway

brittle escarp
steep pagoda
wise bolt
#

ori does share some similarities to hk like the shard/charm system but that kind of just feels like, a general mechanic

wise bolt
#

nine sols utilizes jades which do the same thing

brittle escarp
#

happy stories are missed potential

steep pagoda
#

huge disagree 😭

still bluff
steep pagoda
#

but like i don't think sad stories are bad

brittle escarp
still bluff
#

silksong's the other way and it isn't as flexible

wise bolt
steep pagoda
brittle escarp
#

Happy stories are just (Thing is good), (Thing is a little bad I guess), (Wait it was all fine), at least imo

#

maybe I need to watch more

#

Like it kinda feels like it never mattered and there weren't any consequences

dull heart
#

hi

wise bolt
#

overwhelmingly bad is not good. it loses most if not all meaning if it entirely like. wow my life fucking sucks i have 19 million mental illnesses and was abused and 2lklr;2h3#

steep pagoda
terse dew
#

I don't think it needs to follow a tonal pattern it just needs to have something for people to chew on like a theme

wise bolt
#

hi doze :D

brittle escarp
#

all bad is also bad

#

but like it needs bad that does actually have a lasting effect

dull heart
#

anyway I have a bad headache so I'm going to go watch a show now bye

wise bolt
brittle escarp
#

Like I hate when dead characters just get revived for no reason just because people are sad. Like then it just never happened

brittle escarp
wise bolt
#

otherwise it undermines the narrative significance of it

steep pagoda
brittle escarp
#

Ok fair

still bluff
#

originally a comedy was just a show where everyone didn't die at the end...

brittle escarp
#

I should be more specific. I mean like "I know everything will be fine at any point because of either infinite plot armor, lack of lasting consequences, or overall tone not being conducive to any real emotional moments"

steep pagoda
#

ya comedy just meant a "happy ending" but happy ending back then was very warped

dull heart
#

hahaha it's so funny that everyone except you died

still bluff
#

tragedies they kill 90% Of the important characters
comedies they kill Less Than That

wise bolt
#

i think a resolution and happy ending are probably the terms ur looking for (says the guy that doesnt write

steep pagoda
brittle escarp
#

Like idk, I don't think JJK goes so far in being sad that it starts to desensitize you from the sad and lose impact, and there are still hype/happy moments

brittle escarp
#

I am trying to think of an example

wise bolt
#

resolution feels like. okay, the problems solved and things have calmed down but thats it
'happy ending' feels more like oh yeah we had a disaster but its fixed and like nothing happened so weee dont care

#

actually. really bad explanations

#

ignore that

brittle escarp
#

Like I don't like overly happy endings where "everyone lived happily ever after" becase
a). That would never happen
b). Nothing that happpened before that really has any lasting impact

steep pagoda
#

i mean like

wise bolt
#

there can be happily ever afters i think

steep pagoda
#

spongebob squarepants

#

is a story like this

brittle escarp
#

Well yeah but Spongebob isn't really aiming for emotional beats

steep pagoda
#

but it's episodic

#

each episode is its own story

#

so it doesn't really apply

wise bolt
#

i wanna use ori as an example but. spoilers and idk if its a good example anyway

brittle escarp
#

I guess my beef is more with unearned good endings that feel like they kinda wrapped up too neatly when they realistically shouldn't have

wise bolt
#

hm.

steep pagoda
#

if you have an overarching narrative then yea events need to have impact whether the outcome is happy or sad

brittle escarp
#

But again thats mroe just bad writing

#

I just don't think there could be a well written "everyone lives happy and everything was solved" ending

wise bolt
#

can i yap about it or have u lot heard enough of ori for one day

brittle escarp
#

I'm down for more ori

wise bolt
#

bet

#

have you seen the second game's ending ?

steep pagoda
brittle escarp
#

Yeah, but its been a minute

wise bolt
#

fair nuff

steep pagoda
#

i know nothing ab ori

#

honestly

wise bolt
#

valid

#

the ending to the second game kind of feels like those like, happily ever after endings but i feel with the way the narrative is done its quite nice

steep pagoda
brittle escarp
wise bolt
#

,true

#

i do like the way the game kind of bookends itself from the first game. ending where you started, or in similar circumstances anyway

#

-# plucking at my heartstrings. sob

steep pagoda
#

imo

#

and the latter case is a very happily ever after outcome

brittle escarp
#

Like idk, I like stories where its "put this man in a situation" and he just gets put in the blender for a while and has to earn the happy ending, but is still kinda messed up afterwards because of the stuff that happened

steep pagoda
#

ya that's character development

wise bolt
brittle escarp
#

You can also have sad stories without people dying

wise bolt
#

ya

steep pagoda
brittle escarp
#

Ok, have y'all played E33, and can I mention spoilers?

steep pagoda
#

no

#

unfortunately

brittle escarp
#

ok fair

#

I will refrain

steep pagoda
#

i will not read e33 spoilers

#

😔

arctic cliff
# lean relic

and now theres a general feeling in the air that the devs dont even want to do SSO (at least, for next content patch)

wise bolt
#

have not played it, dont mind spoilers but it might be good to put them with a spoiler on anyway

brittle escarp
#

How do I do spoilers again?

#

I forgor

wise bolt
#

every1 tired of fish mines

#

no one's interested and frankly no one has the ideas. sso is a remnant of before 22

arctic cliff
#

what disorganization and the fabsolution does

wise bolt
brittle escarp
#

|test|

gloomy grove
#

no

steep pagoda
#

two lines

brittle escarp
#

||test||

wise bolt
#

my bad og

gloomy grove
#

lmao

brittle escarp
#

ah

arctic cliff
#

||HERE||

brittle escarp
#

I figuerd it out

sacred rapids
#

Any idea when I fight brain it says it’s no longer after me when I’m about to kill it?

arctic cliff
gloomy grove
wise bolt
#

hence

#

sso death

arctic cliff
#

im kinda worried tho because my mind has been waiting for the next update to be SSO, and not even whatever yeah

arctic cliff
gloomy grove
steep pagoda
#

is sso a remnant of 22?

#

i thought it was mostly post 22

brittle escarp
#

E33 SPOILERS:
||I have a problem with one of the endings, because after all the trauma and family disputes and 70 years of fighting and literally being at war, everything is jsut suddenly fine? Like the husband and wife that were literally at war and trapped each other in super hell for 70 years are just perfectly fine now and they process things and move on normally. Like I would prefer to see more of the aftermath||

steep pagoda
#

not reading any of that but fr

gloomy grove
brittle escarp
arctic cliff
#

the people behind SSO were 22 folk? what does "22 people" mean?
people who left in 22? Because that was like, 22. that was BEFORE yknow fabsolution

gloomy grove
#

i remember sir nautilus was pretty much a complete thing and the horse rejected sir nautilus even when it was almost complete which ticked off alot of the devs that were working on the update

wise bolt
#

22 refers to a mass leaving of devs sometime in 2022 or like 22 people left

#

i fogor

steep pagoda
#

about 22 people left

wise bolt
#

dont take my word for it i might be spreading misinfo (i have bad memory

gloomy grove
#

iban talked about it in fablescord i thinkk

steep pagoda
#

i think it was actually 23 in total but 22 initially or something

brittle escarp
#

I think that the amount that has been done by the dev team is genuinely incredible considering the amount of shenanigans that have occured lol

arctic cliff
#

imma be real

I keep seeing your (astrum deus) pfp as a guy with a glowing mouth instead of astrum deus coiling around golden star thing

wise bolt
#

i cant see it but fair nuff

steep pagoda
#

yeah ie do NOT see that 😭

still bluff
wise bolt
steep pagoda
still bluff
#

and yea dec 2022

wise bolt
#

like all the old concepts got pulled since they were from iban iirc

wise bolt
still bluff
#

no everyoone says its' 22 because that's funnier

wise bolt
#

i take it you haven't ascended the tree yet

still bluff
#

no

obtuse hawk
#

but then why is "22" posted alongside queen bee concept art

still bluff
#

i just found it and opened it

steep pagoda
wise bolt
obtuse hawk
#

oh

still bluff
#

22 hornet rounds

steep pagoda
#

22 bullet theory

arctic cliff
#

i know triangle and tobias did a fuck ton of fish sprites and concepts for those Sunken Sea guys to live in but yeeee

still bluff
#

triangle and tobias had done a lot of fish
what the biome itslef would look like was impressively unclear

steep pagoda
#

why are they doing fish

#

can someone tell them that's inappropriate

wise bolt
# arctic cliff shit, that little?

actually. no. im misremembering. my bad
i think in terms of like, entirely drawn concept art it was only a small handful of maybe like, 2 or 3 pieces but there were more things like drawovers from ingame screenshots

#

i keep forgetting about those SkyFaint

steep pagoda
#

are we done with writer talk

wise bolt
#

they were really good for implementation actually but admittedly they looked kind of disjointed

steep pagoda
#

😞

#

time to shrivel away until the next rain

wise bolt
#

i think at the time tobias was the only active person who did concept art

still bluff
#

now we get awesome scrimbly tofart

steep pagoda
#

toe fart??

#

what da hell is going on in caldev....

wise bolt
# wise bolt they were really good for implementation actually but admittedly they looked kin...

frankly speaking i am kind of glad we're probably dropping sso for another time.. it might just be better to redo it from the ground up. we have a foundation but trying to build off of what we currently have feels kind of difficult, just as well i think we could get a bit more wacky with the worldgen instead of having it just be a vertical stack like the abyss .and also in my earlier drafts

brittle escarp
obtuse hawk
#

i agree with the wackier worldgen

brittle escarp
#

and then the giant clams only spawned in the center or something, or like the hardmode giant clams are locked behind hardmode digging level blocks in the inner core or something

wise bolt
#

i'd love to get a sunken sea overhaul done but when i (or the whole team for that matter) don't have the ideas for it, i don't know if i want to like... release an unthorough product

steep pagoda
#

i mean u could probably look at actual underwater ecosystems for worldgen inspo

wise bolt
#

if it gets overhauled, i'd like it to be good. not just different

fathom girder
#

Make em circles

steep pagoda
#

im not knowledgable on the topic but it could be a good place to start

fathom girder
#

Big ol circles

arctic cliff
#

no wonder why triangle was all "the economical environmental visual isnt gonna be really a thing in sso"

brittle escarp
vivid hemlock
#

the pill

wise bolt
arctic cliff
#

no wonder why i only really heard actual stuff about SSO from those two guys

gloomy grove
wise bolt
#

not the biggest thing on my mind rn tho. unfortunately largely uninterested fish currently

arctic cliff
#

fuck

wise bolt
#

ideally we wouldn't have to revisit it because it's just more work

#

but that's just me

polar tide
#

like current dog

wise bolt
#

feels kind of redundant to plan a big change and then also say like, oh yeah we're probably gonna make it better again later
unless it's supposed to be a quick bandaid solution to something, it's counterintuitive

#

wasted work..

arctic cliff
#

what the actual fuck happened with tobias that led him to leave tho

polar tide
#

noneya business

wise bolt
#

idk if i can say

arctic cliff
polar tide
#

i really wish people didnt try and dig for reasons when people leave the team

arctic cliff
wise bolt
wise bolt
gloomy grove
steep pagoda
#

it happens pretty much any time people leave

#

for personal reasons rather than big public things

#

like dokuro

gloomy grove
#

people speculate and gravity towards bad blood between the team as the reason which does get annoying

stuck kite
#

everything must be a conspiracy ooooh

steep pagoda
#

though that was also quite public honestly

gloomy grove
misty wren
wise bolt
#

if i ever leave its because they cancelled deus redesign /j

arctic cliff
polar tide
#

man people to this day debate on why dokuro "actually" left

fathom girder
#

Tobi probably has better things to do with his skills

arctic cliff
#

i know tobias's leaving was due to drama tho

polar tide
steep pagoda
obtuse hawk
arctic cliff
wise bolt
#

ok i have to go back to work. have fun yall

obtuse hawk
#

cya

arctic cliff
steep pagoda
#

goodbye fofu!

wise bolt
#

dont get into too much mischief

fathom girder
#

peace tofu

wise bolt
fathom girder
#

I'm gonna talk about that cool hollow knight mod

#

Ori I think it was called idk

steep pagoda
vivid hemlock
misty wren
wise bolt
stuck kite
#

i sure hope no one cooks up a storm

arctic cliff
steep pagoda
#

brains up a storm

fathom girder
steep pagoda
#

anyway i will also be shrivelling up and departing goodbye!

simple spindle
#

Is heart of the elements good, bad or trash

#

And was it touched this update?

brittle escarp
fathom girder
#

it's ok

still bluff
polar tide
#

it was not touched

vivid hemlock
#

as the prophecy states

wise bolt
still bluff
#

ah true

#

damn

#

i can't leave

vivid hemlock
#

wholesome

wise bolt
#

garbo isnt a dev idc about him

#

(joke

misty wren
#

@cunning sequoia force developer role

still bluff
#

huh oriisn't playing any sound

#

this is weird

wise bolt
still bluff
#

ig it's becasue it'm streaming it from the other computer but like

#

nothing else does this

wise bolt
#

where even are you streaming

simple spindle
#

Like ok

still bluff
#

using steam's remote play t

simple spindle
#

Not too op or weak

wise bolt
#

oh ok

#

god i really need to get to work but icant fuckign pry myself from chats

polar tide
wise bolt
#

alex.

still bluff
#

ok nvmit is an everything problem rn

misty wren
still bluff
#

it's not just ori

wise bolt
#

whats in your mouth

wise bolt
#

alex

misty wren
#

this is the best gif ever btw

polar tide
#

but probably

#

at the tier you get it at theres like zero reason to use it over anything else

vivid hemlock
#

everything about it

wise bolt
#

i forget the elementals exist i cannot find it in me to gaf about them

vivid hemlock
#

TRUE

misty wren
#

it used to be meta because fucking nobody tested it

arctic cliff
#

i could say that for cal lore in general

polar tide
#

the only thing i can bring myself to feel for the elementals is contempt

granite sapphire
wise bolt
#

really good picture.

still bluff
#

ok my cursor texture isn't working but i have sound now

#

i think that's better?

arctic cliff
#

its so hard to remember that in a setting where the souls of extremely powerful beings matter so much that even the distortion has two beings that are trying to steal them, there's also these funny girls that embody elements and they're also supposed to matter in the setting

obtuse hawk
#

I still think Rev+ BoC is a really fun fight

polar tide
#

cursor texture shaped lump in m

granite sapphire
wise bolt
#

SDPIT IT OUTTTT

granite sapphire
#

No, better

arctic cliff
misty wren
arctic cliff
#

you're not ready man

granite sapphire
#

you know nothing

arctic cliff
#

i can make that infinitely better Light the dancer

wise bolt
#

ok i actuakly need to keep working. shit cultist animation wip last messafw gofbye

misty wren
granite sapphire
#

-# if you can't tell this is satire dont take this literally you fucking MORON

still bluff
#

Fluffy cursor

#

Bye tofu

rich osprey
#

strange, says my Calamity updated but the Hellborn is not reworked..

granite sapphire
#

keep ragebaiting

#

I got adventure time to tend to

brittle escarp
gloomy grove
brittle escarp
#

it used to be the best option on-tier and now its like the worst

rich osprey
#

uhh i dunno about that

arctic cliff
brittle escarp
#

Well unless you do the contact damage consistently, which isn't really possible. its not like old hellborn where it gave you like 10 seconds of bonus

granite sapphire
spark belfry
obtuse hawk
#

new greatsword of judgement is cool but i noticed its hit range on ambient objects is really big for some reason but im too lazy and tired to submit a bug report rn

granite sapphire
gloomy grove
lethal kraken
#

aw cool new brim elemental sounds

brittle escarp
#

I lowkey kinda wish brimstone elemental got a buff. She is kind of a pushover imo

#

not even like a rework, just some more sauce

vivid hemlock
#

people shouldnt be forced to fight her for more than a minute

brittle escarp
#

?

spark belfry
lean relic
#

Why is ozzatron a cosmic horror now

still bluff
#

dear od

#

ozzatron has become something greater

brittle escarp
#

I don't think its a health issue, but all she does is a super telegraphed laser, cocooning into like single blasts, and like normal single shots?

#

I genuinely can't even rememebr because I kinda turn my brain off in that fight

arctic cliff
spark belfry
polar tide
#

brimmy is in such a sad state rn i feel bad for her

#

like msot cal bosses are at least memorable for being bad

#

brimmy just happens

#

adn you forget you even fought her

brittle escarp
spark belfry
brittle escarp
spark belfry
#

I remember her for that

brittle escarp
#

its just like signus

lean relic
#

Both might need a redesign huh

thorn hawk
#

how to get golden fishing rod easily after the update?

brittle escarp
#

I would go feral for a signus overhaul. Make him an absolutely goated ghost shadow assassin man

lean relic
#

Considering Signus is already getting one

brittle escarp
#

Like give permanent blindness and then a flash and oyu have to dash in that direction to parry

#

Like the one guy in the resting grounds from HK

lean relic
#

Give brimmy one too

spark belfry
#

Can't wait for the ceaseless void to cease being ceaseless

brittle escarp
#

actually my least favorite boss by far

spark belfry
#

Then we'll just have the void

brittle escarp
#

Limited void

spark belfry
#

Good one

brittle escarp
# spark belfry Good one

Fully unrelated to calamity, but jusding by your name and pfp, I assume you have been keeping up with Modulo?

brittle escarp
#

I am a huge fan

spark belfry
#

Mahito treatment always puts a smile on my face

brittle escarp
#

I can't wait to see Dabura pop off with his domain

brittle escarp
#

I want the reincarnated baby sukuna theories to be true

#

chibi sukuna

#

Just a little guy

spark belfry
brittle escarp
#

True

#

I think Mahoraga is like actually my favorite "character" other than maybe Gojo ot Toji

spark belfry
brittle escarp
#

I love Thukuna

#

peak lobotomy

spark belfry
#

It's just ingrained by lobotomy kaisen, what a time that was

#

anyways calamity

#

Uh

orchid finch
white aurora
#

how calamitous

spark belfry
orchid finch
#

why he so compressed

brittle escarp
#

I can't wait for Xeroc 2074

arctic cliff
orchid finch
#

brain?

#

devourer of god?

#

brainstorm tomorrow?

spark belfry
#

devourer of brainstorms

fathom girder
#

what's brainstorm

spark belfry
fathom girder
#

what

#

WHAT

#

I'm just asking bru

orchid finch
#

what do you MEAN "what's brainstorm"

fathom girder
#

like

#

I've never heard of brainstorm before

#

like are we brainstorming new ideas or

orchid finch
#

you have to be joking

fathom girder
#

am I really just a rando to you people

#

can't believe this

polar tide
#

whats brainstorm

fathom girder
#

idk

#

I've been trying to ask and they like

#

forgot who I am I think

tribal isle
fathom girder
#

DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM

orchid finch
tribal isle
#

No he made the mod

fathom girder
#

yeah carny is john calamity

orchid finch
#

no I made the mod

fathom girder
#

it rhymes

orchid finch
#

no

#

it doesn't

fathom girder
#

they both end in y

#

so it rhymes

orchid finch
#

that's not how rhymes work

fathom girder
#

uh huh

polar tide
fathom girder
#

and I suppose you're some linguist

orchid finch
#

carny rhymes with con carne though

fathom girder
#

carn ee and carn ae do not..

orchid finch
orchid finch
#

carny rhymes with corny

fathom girder
#

there we go

#

WAIT

orchid finch
#

😎

fathom girder
#

you're in university

#

what rhymes with orange

orchid finch
#

porridge

arctic cliff
#

well, what's brainstorm you ask?

fathom girder
#

w

arctic cliff
#

you can find that out

#

if you pay me $50 dollaras

orchid finch
#

overdone up to his money-making schemes again I see

arctic cliff
dusty tinsel
#

Pay me $50 so you can tell me

fathom girder
#

if you pay me 50 dollars

#

then I have 50 dolr

orchid finch
#

send a $50 donation with an explanation

#

I've been tasked with translating The Speckled Band from Japanese to Russian

#

how is your day going

fathom girder
#

oh it's like

#

full linguist damn

#

are you learning every major language? that's cool

orchid finch
#

my major is Japanese

#

English is like the second major and it's lower in the hierarchy

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but that's like a non-issue, not like I'm bragging clueless

fathom girder
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probably helps that you're fluent in english already

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lul

polar tide
brittle escarp
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Dawg I am so horrendous at learning languages. Did french for 6 years, can't do anything with it, ancient Greek for 2, also can't do anything with it

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I am sticking to my astro classes lol

fathom girder
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I passed spanish flawlessly for four years and still don't understand it nearly as much as I should

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thanks american education system

brittle escarp
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My brain just does not compute it

dusty tinsel
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My brain does not compute English well and it's the only language I know, so I dropped second languages after grade 9

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Lol

brittle escarp
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I am like unironically better at math than english

fathom girder
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I'm only good at english and typing because of starbound roleplay servers

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school doesn't teach shit

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tbh