calamity-update-talk

[hazy yoke]

Are there any calamity potions I should be worried about or should I just stick to the vanilla potions?

(buff potions not healing ones)

[gloomy grove]

seems to be a case by case basis as i am about 12 hours into a run with friends and havent run into problems

[simple merlin]

so I can confirm Autofish mod breaks Wulfrum Bobber functionality (and likely others too)

[radiant sparrow]

dude death mode is tough

yeah the diff increase is very substantial

[alpine mantle]

Idk if it's a mod update that broke it but the sword Grand Guardian disappears whenever I use it. It doesn't even damage enemies. It's completely unusable

[deep bough]

modlist?

[fathom girder]

reeks of overhaul

[deft lily]

i like cal overhaul

its such a good mod

[fathom girder]

are you diseased

do we need to send someone to check on you

[deft lily]

the best mod ever

🔥

[fathom girder]

is everything okay at home

[deft lily]

yes

[versed heart]

I love minecraft, that's why I think Calamity mod is unplayable without Overhaul

[deft lily]

has the peak murasama rework. something the evil woke cal devs could never achieve

[frank musk]

murasama got a rework?

[deft lily]

must... not... spread misinformation....

[frank musk]

so what class got the most reworks, ima use that one

[spark kiln]

mage/melee/ranger

[frank musk]

I don't think I've ever used mage in calamity

[distant raft]

charge config still mentions weapons

[olive kernel]

I forgot I had this back when we had very early ideas for the trailer

[vivid hemlock]

🔥

[radiant sparrow]

death mode cthulhu isnt even bad, its just all the little eyes that are around during second phase is so cancer

[lethal kraken]

ok this is fucking epic

[dull heart]

Hi

[small coral]

how does the new shpc work

[dull heart]

it's a magic gun that uses souls as ammo

[small coral]

idk how to get souls tho

i hold right click and theres nothing

[dull heart]

like

The items

Soul of X

Night, Light, Sight, etc

[small coral]

oh

so its shit against bosses then

[dull heart]

no

[small coral]

cuz i cant get souls

how am i gonna get souls when fighting plantera

[dull heart]

you... have them in your inventory like any ammo

[small coral]

o its like ammo

[dull heart]

The vacuum is for soul orbs after you fire it

[small coral]

i thought u had to get them on the spot

[dull heart]

No

[radiant sparrow]

you have any recommendations for death eoc?

[spiral tree]

Be skilled

[radiant sparrow]

dont mind the pet but this is what i have

the most annoying part id say is when he is horizontal with you

[gloomy grove]

just hook/jump to the platform above you

should be fine enough and the window is somewhat big

[grim pecan]

spore knife can help if you wanna grab that

[radiant sparrow]

btw can you even get a burrower kill pre tesla amulet?

[fathom girder]

Spore knife is kinda crazy tbh

[blazing field]

spores you with my knife

haha nloser

[distant raft]

any electric like attack works iirc

[deft lily]

guys my character just corrupted

[thorny fjord]

Do thunder zapper or storm spear work?

[distant raft]

lets actually take a look

[fathom girder]

Crimson or corruption

[fathom girder]

It has to apply an electric debuff

[thorny fjord]

Ah, ok

[distant raft]

nvm too much effort

[deft lily]

i have cal overhaul in my list so this must mean its the cal devs fault

[fathom girder]

Easiest option is killing evil2 as your first boss and getting the tesla amulet from there

Any class can do it, rogue probably does it the best

Evil2 bosses are extremely easy with a simple movement loadout

[vital current]

yo does anyone know what fishing power u need for the Sea Spirit Amulet?

[craggy marten]

hallo, how i can recharge the SHPC?

[grim pecan]

have one of the soul items (light/night/sight/fright/might/flight) in your inventory and fire it

[craggy marten]

thanks!

[vital current]

yo does anyone know what fishing power u need for the Sea Spirit Amulet?

[gloomy grove]

no requirement but it does take abit to get

with about 120+ fishing power it took me roughly 20-30 minutes to get

[cedar coral]

playing the update with my friend, just killed yharon yesterday
we died more times on signus than on dog and yharon combined

[severe coral]

That's how it goes

46 attempts on DoG, 1 on Yharon

[steep path]

Damn that was horrifying. But very cool. I could figure out the intended way to dodge most attacks after a while. My favorite attack is the creeper circle one

[lethal kraken]

hey should i use flask of crumbling or flask of ichor

[dusk bronze]

?

[hard copper]

Imo use ichor for pre moon lord, and then crumbling for post moon lord

[lapis oak]

yes

speeding up time speed up the production

my only complaint is freezing time right now cause NPCs to not respawn but speeding up time doesn't make them respawn faster

that should be changed

[slate folio]

Has nobody tried to datamine calamity mod to see the whole thing

[lean relic]

I already did 😉

See future docs

[slate folio]

OH

[lean relic]

it has been added

[slate folio]

Dude fuck

My phone can't load the full doc

could you dm it

[lean relic]

You can search my message containing "background" text
Syrup said its fine to post in here

[slate folio]

it is?

alright then

[crystal arrow]

yall know why polter despawns when i try n summon it

[slate folio]

dude these backgrounds are beautiful

[gloomy grove]

barely anyone paid attention to it too but navystone has a pretty long shimmer chain of unobtainable sunken sea tiles

[slate folio]

I've seen that

[gloomy grove]

theyre all so pretty but i have to fucking sit there and shimmer navystone to get what i want 💔

[slate folio]

Why has nobody tried to pretend they found the sunken sea mini biomes

that would be so funny

[gloomy grove]

an imagining of the mini biomes would be cute

maybe if i slap in cal vanities for jelly priestess to sell navystone ill make one

[slate folio]

dude I don't understand what cal vanities has been doing

random strange building materials like moldy wood and bunker platforms (likely fables related) act strange

like, moldy wood has no outlines and looks extremely weird when placed???

I honestly have a lot of beef with the mod because of how they barely try to fix issues with the mod

[lapis oak]

omg the Giant Hive will actually get unique wall?

huge news

[gloomy grove]

it cannot be that deep

[lean relic]

The curse of YuH

[gloomy grove]

YuHposting

[blazing field]

Hi Everyone.

It's me. 2.1.1.5

[gloomy grove]

hello 2.1.1.5

[cedar coral]

checked out the auric land mine
bro got sent to the ocean

[blazing field]

As Calamity Mod, i am here to announce that Calamity Mod is introducing Mud John next update.

We hope you are looking forward to it.

[gloomy grove]

are you shitting me, mud john before john wulfrum jr??

[cedar coral]

-2 million hp???? or how many was that

[teal bone]

new debuff? 👀

[lean relic]

The icon is changed now LMAO

[main sand]

Bane???

[idle dagger]

hey quick question, was multiplayer fixed in this update?

[teal bone]

Definitely not bug-free, but many multiplayer bugs were fixed

[idle dagger]

boss difficulty in death?

[main sand]

Only in a calamity mod server can you see someone name themself JesusStalin

[tropic jolt]

[idle dagger]

no political nor religious statement x)

[main sand]

[lusty wigeon]

how to do new brain of cuthulu fight

[gloomy grove]

its significantly better than before 2.1 thats for sure at least

[idle dagger]

mmh alr I finished reading the patch but it doesn't mention boss ai for death

so I assume it's still the same

[lean relic]

Get good

[radiant sparrow]

how the fuck has death eoc taken 17 attemps and still havent won. rev scal only took 9

[deft lily]

whar

[deft lily]

[burnt basin]

deadass minion summons are broken bro. they keep tryna go elsewhere and wopnt attack the damn boss despite t being right next to em

[wise bolt]

who said i was posing

[deft lily]

hello astrum deus

[wise bolt]

urh

[blazing field]

Bain ..

[boreal shore]

seems fairly stable so far, only up to slime god in my friend group the only boss thats buggy is hive mind

[young notch]

tier skipped slime god

oh my god that was so exhilerating

[molten grove]

half of the changelogs for each update lately have been bug fixes vrooo

[main sand]

Aoe/piercing weapons

Also, for the multiple brain phase, use your eyes and find the real brain or else it'll kill you

[radiant sparrow]

WHY IS THERE SO MANY

[burnt basin]

how can i tell whaty brain of chtulu is the real one, i dont see any difference between any of them

[main sand]

There are differences

[burnt basin]

yeah thanks for letting me know

[tropic jolt]

that feeling when it takes 700 hellbats to get a magma stone 😻

[main sand]

Just need to memorise the brain's original sprite

Or rather, spritesheet

[grim pecan]

the real brain is the one with the pupil.

[main sand]

Some will look very similar and differ only with the animation on the pupil

[deft lily]

the real brain was the friends we made along the way

[grim pecan]

some have eyes but they're totally whited out. the real brain will have a full eye.

[grim pecan]

that was taken out, deemed too confusing

[radiant sparrow]

ITS DRIVING ME MAD

how am i struggling this much on this fucking floating eye

[deft lily]

death mode i presume?

[radiant sparrow]

yeah

[deft lily]

what class

[radiant sparrow]

rogue

[deft lily]

yeah ive never played rogue soooooo

[radiant sparrow]

I LOVE MISSING STEALTH STRIKE

[deft lily]

can't help u there 😭

[radiant sparrow]

WHEN ADRENALINE IS ON

its not even the boss itself thats tilting me

its all his little fucking goons

[burnt basin]

ah i thought so. thanks

[deft lily]

the devs are deving....

[lyric trellis]

The shark

[deft lily]

wait wtf

[pulsar cobalt]

b ainrot

[deft lily]

whar

[grim pecan]

we are a very serious development team that does very serious work i'll have you know

[deft lily]

kid named ozzathoth:

[pulsar cobalt]

2 bainillion damage

[lean relic]

The brainrot and a shark

[burnt basin]

the pumpkin sentry is the coolest thing ever

[deft lily]

😨

[tropic jolt]

🪷

[main sand]

Oh hmm it was a fun minigame for me

[tropic jolt]

my brain is being stormed by hellbats and magma snails

[radiant sparrow]

eoc unironically sucks and i hate that im getting rolled by it

skill issue ngl

[main sand]

Idk man the eye is fine for me

It just has like what a few new moves from vanilla

[deft lily]

the only boss thats given me trouble is death mode brain cuz i was an idiot and fought it on the crimson surface

[main sand]

It enrages on surface?

[polar tide]

i hate to say this but this is the literal only time in my entire life i have ever seen someone have trouble with eye of cthulhu

[deft lily]

no
just not balanced around it

[radiant sparrow]

but like why is there this many being spawned on phase 2

[deft lily]

its instead balanced around the crimson cave

[radiant sparrow]

i dont know why im having this much trouble. i fucking blew through rev

[polar tide]

use crystalline

[main sand]

Hmm idk man I just use piercing weapons on it

[polar tide]

are you doing stealth only or osmething

[teal bone]

leakjing,,,

[polar tide]

Fuck...

[radiant sparrow]

bit of both rn

[deft lily]

alex how could you

[deft lily]

killing you in 5

💣

[polar tide]

spam crystalline to get rid of the shitlets

i literally cannot be killed but go for it

[deft lily]

😨

[radiant sparrow]

it took me like 7 attemps for scal and like 12? for exo mechs on rev like dude wtf

[polar tide]

ditch anklet of the wind use it to upgrade your boots and replace it with something else instead

[radiant sparrow]

dont have goblin......

[polar tide]

do goblin if youre having trouble with eoc

[deft lily]

^

[radiant sparrow]

no gob scouts are spawnig so far

[deft lily]

i always do goblin army before like anything lol

[polar tide]

did you break an orb

[torpid anvil]

whats da strongest class now that braintstorms out?

[radiant sparrow]

uuuuugh

[deft lily]

just go to the crimson or corruption and use bombs to break the orbs

[radiant sparrow]

no....

[polar tide]

gobbo army wont even spawn naturally if you havent at least broken an orb so be sure to d othat

[radiant sparrow]

i wasnt aware of that ngl

[deft lily]

now u know lol

[polar tide]

its ok. when i played calamity for the first time i didnt realize giant clam wouldnt spawn if you havent killed DS and boss checklist fucked up and unchecked scoog so i sat there in the sunken sea for over half an hour waiting for a clam to spawn and it never did

[misty wren]

orb and 200 hp

[radiant sparrow]

i have sunk 90 hours in two week

[deft lily]

damn

[radiant sparrow]

across three different runs tho

my philosohpy is that if a boss needs ad spawns is a bad boss

[polar tide]

bro haves max hp in the screenshot so i did not mention it

[misty wren]

that 200hp also applies for every character in a multiplayer world too btw so on multiplayer every single person needs 200hp for a goblin army to spawn

[deft lily]

interesting

[polar tide]

oh my god.

[deft lily]

no freaking way

hive mind

[misty wren]

its really fucking annoying

[sinful dagger]

This death mode Golem fight is exactly the same as vanilla classic mode

Did they even add any attacks?

[lyric trellis]

Did you get his hp below 100% at all

[lean relic]

I will FOREVER remember the pre brainstorm Golem

It was so painful

[sinful dagger]

I'm not ragebaiting

Jk

[burnt basin]

yay finally got it

[teal bone]

YOU ARE THE BEST

[barren nacelle]

I am Bain

[spiral dove]

from what point of view is this a good change

[deft lily]

because it means you get to actually play the game!

:D

[blazing field]

Rod of Discord's drop rate was buffed

[deft lily]

^ also this

[blazing field]

So it's alot easier to get now too

[deft lily]

and elementals now spawn on more blocks too

[blazing field]

It just incentivizes you to actually engage with stuff a bit more

It shouldn't be particularly hard

I know someone who has already ogtten 3 RoD's

from killing under 100 chaos elemens

not even trying to farm them

[deft lily]

dang

[blazing field]

I'm honestly not a huge fan of how rare RoD is in vanilla,

dont get me wrong im fine with some rare enemy drops

[deft lily]

im pretty sure nobody is lol

[blazing field]

but tying such a universally useful and unique item

[amber egret]

i personally think if a fight needs a teleport it should give you the opportunity In The Fight Itself

[blazing field]

to a extremely rare drop from a comparatively not-so-common enemy

Is... ehh

If it was like some random vanity item or even a niche weapon, thats ok

[amber egret]

also why from specifically one random ass enemy in the underground hallow

shit should drop from like. Plantera.

[blazing field]

I think ideally no fights should need a teleport

Designing a fight around such an ability would be like, designing a fight around needing a dash

but significantly worse

[amber egret]

ideally they shouldnt need outside teleportation

[deft lily]

scal fight spawns a portal from the portal gun

[blazing field]

Idk if i agree

I think having cool tiems drop from normal enemies is good

[amber egret]

adding lil items around the fight that teleport you away from the threat like Green Items from Undertale

[blazing field]

It incentivizes the player to fight them

[amber egret]

since (detractively) most fights involving projectiles are kinda Undertale on a really big grid

so playing around that (for someone like Scal or Calclone) could be Neat

[deft lily]

i think every boss should drop over 5k rod of discords

[amber egret]

No

[blazing field]

Every boss except specifically old duke

[deft lily]

yes

[blazing field]

he drops uhh the rod of racism instead

[amber egret]

no every boss Except Aureus

[deft lily]

-# Lol?

[amber egret]

because Fuck Aureus

+1k to deus though since Tofu is a fan of Deus

[blazing field]

Rod of Racism works identicaly to Rod of Discord

Except it also kills any dragon enemies near you insantly

[deft lily]

true!

[blazing field]

whenever you use it

Basilisks. Wyverns. Dragonfolly. Yharon

dead instantly

the moment you teleport

[amber egret]

its overly animated too

like a whole 3 minutes to kill all dragons

[deft lily]

betsy-

[blazing field]

Besty Dead. Pigrons Dead. Duke Fishron Dead

[amber egret]

wait does that mean Piggies die

[blazing field]

Well those are just pigs without any draconic traits, thjejy get to live

[amber egret]

didnt they come from Pigrons

[hazy pine]

does hero's/cheat sheet nuke the game for anyone else

[amber egret]

who Are draconic

[blazing field]

Bone Serpents are dragon enough, they Die

[blazing field]

I'm pretty sure they're just pigs ;sob

[amber egret]

are you Sure.

[blazing field]

Pretty sure

Threw a trashbag

to space

at work

[deft lily]

mark, this is good news

[amber egret]

I made a Steak

[deft lily]

we can be bees

for 30 years

[twilit forge]

great conversation

[blazing field]

30 years?!?

[amber egret]

WHAT WILL YOU HAVE IN 30 Steak.

[deft lily]

this is insane!

[amber egret]

This is Bees, Mark. This is Steak!

[deft lily]

anyways

sso sometime

[amber egret]

sso maybe next week ill check corporate

[deft lily]

there i got back on topic

i think sso should make water wet

[amber egret]

Wrong again, Update Fan!

Water will actually be Sauce the next update

[deft lily]

dread

[blazing field]

i think sso should kill everyone

[deft lily]

(except me im too cool)

[blazing field]

kill 7 billion people

[amber egret]

Wrong again, Update Fan!
Everyone is actually 8 Billion People

[deft lily]

i will be the last survivor

of humanity

[grave rock]

was scrolling thru deltarune tumblr n saw xzier on the wild giving shit takes lawl

[deft lily]

? ok

[grave rock]

i just thought it was funny

oh i know this person

[amber egret]

?

[deft lily]

not sure why that constitutes back talking him in a public discord but sure

[amber egret]

draggem in here dont callem out

[spiral dove]

kill 7 billion chaos elementals

[deft lily]

dawg it isn't that bad

[spiral dove]

i'm "farming" with zerg potion for 20 minutes already

[deft lily]

idk what to tell you
if it bothers u that much just install a "QoL" mod that gives u rod of discord instantly

not going to force you how to play the game

[blazing field]

It's the same droprate as Mandible Blade from a Antlion charger in vanilla

Which i often get alot of

[amber egret]

i get like four of those throughout my entire desert visits

[spiral dove]

well i'm just afk while my minions do the thing

super engaging gameplay

[amber egret]

ah see thats your issue

your farming area looks Bad!

also get some Bloody Marys

[grave rock]

yeah ur like spawns theyre all clumpin up

[blazing field]

I usually dont really afk farm stuff

[grave rock]

look at that!

[deft lily]

breh

[blazing field]

For me atleast afk farming just makes the act of farming itself boring

[spiral dove]

the minions do reach it from time to time

[amber egret]

go into like

more hallow

this is like 35% hallow

[blazing field]

It's not really speeding things up for me or anything given the only way to make it do so is if i like

[spiral dove]

which is kind of the reason the rod of discord was buyable isn't it

[blazing field]

Leave it on in the background while i do something else

[blazing field]

Not really

I just don't afk farm

[grave rock]

yes but im just pointing out a more general issue with ur farming area in tht u should prolly open up more space
also yeah make a bloody mary!

[blazing field]

I actually just. go around in the biome killing stuff

I don't see much of a reason to afk farm given it's not speeding things up anyways

[spiral dove]

fair enough i guess though bloody mary from my experience make me do 1 damage

[grave rock]

usually if i want to farm i do it in a mushroom biome or hell unless i specifically need to be somewhere

[blazing field]

Unless i do one of those setups that make enemies spawn extremely quickly and die instantly

[grave rock]

doesnt it just give enemies pierce resist or sumn?

[blazing field]

Which i usaull don't see an eed to make

I did make smth like it for my vanilla RoD farm, given how excruciatingly rare it is

[deft lily]

i have a solution
get rid of rod of discord
boom problem solved!

[blazing field]

But i don't see the need to for most things

Like i don't really understand much

Not trying to be mean i genuinely just dont see the appeal

you're not speeding things up, ur just like

minimizing effort on your part

But realistically enemies usually arent that much of a threat anyways

[spiral dove]

well whips pierce and my minions count as pierce as well i guess

[blazing field]

So its basically just

not playing the game

[deft lily]

i think afk farming is for LOSERS!

[spiral dove]

i have 22 defense i die in 3 hits

[deft lily]

this is an objectively correct opinion

[amber egret]

whaddafuck where are you getting 22

whats your armor

[deft lily]

also yeah wtf 22 is low 😭

[blazing field]

That's really low defense for hardmode isn't it

[spiral dove]

i mean spider armor?

[blazing field]

You could change your setup to be tankier, maybe

Or just i mean

coem back when youre stronger

[amber egret]

are you not using warding/hard

(idk which is better)

[spiral dove]

no i'm using menacing

[amber egret]

few things off here i think

[blazing field]

Would RoD make a boss fight easier for you or something like that

I wouldnt know cuz ive never actually used rod in boss fights

[spiral dove]

yeah i tried aquatic scourge and took the most damage when it surrounded me

[blazing field]

i find it to be too clunky to use to bother 😭 😭

[amber egret]

too much effort

[spiral dove]

rod of discord would solve that

[blazing field]

RoD to me is more of just a movement tool to get around faster

[hazy pine]

bye bye heroes mod

[blazing field]

IO don't know if its still the same since i fought it,

But from my experience the best way to fight aquatic scourge (and one htat imo actually makes it the most fun out of the osses i've fought) is to basically just fly up and down and run from it while using a weapon to attack it from a distance

Your only real threat would be the gas clouds

which you need to be aware of the position of and weave around

Which can be a bit tricky but,

as much as i dont think its exactly a particularly well designed or made fight

like most alamity bosses

[amber egret]

Most

[blazing field]

I actually find the gameplay of weaving through the projectiles while running from AS

To be pretty fun

[amber egret]

Most are Bad

some are pretty Good

[blazing field]

You can acnowledge when something is fun to you but not necessarily good and i think for me that's what AS is

[spiral dove]

i don't really need tips, i found it very easy

[blazing field]

Brain and Devourer seem to be in a much better shape now, and i've heard Calamitas and Providence are some of the better fights

Unfortunately i cannot testify to any of them

[amber egret]

i havent gotten there yet

i know BoC is pretty Awesoem

[spiral dove]

i just kind of took 2 hits of 260 damage of contact when that happened so i want rod of discord now

[amber egret]

and DoG looks Good

[blazing field]

because i have been unable to play brianstorm and i have not fought providence or calamitas ever

[amber egret]

get Deep Diver ! (it sucks but it works)

[amber egret]

wait like ever ever

like not once in your iunuh years of living

[blazing field]

I can testify to PBG being a evil foul being that does not deserve to be treated as an equal and roam this earth freely though.

[blazing field]

Yeah

[amber egret]

PBG is a Fool

[blazing field]

It's always funy when people discover that

[spiral dove]

i found brain too demanding for mobility

[amber egret]

i mean you are a Moderator they prob expect like. at least a little Calamity

[spiral dove]

you'll never beat it before goblin

[misty wren]

not really

[amber egret]

at least like a Tad of Beating Revengance

"they" being the general community

[blazing field]

I'm the co-owner of the fangame thats recreating calamity as its own metroidvania and a moderator and i'm one of the biggest lore nerds in the community

And i have never gotten into post ml in calamity

[amber egret]

wait you got to like post lunatic ??

[blazing field]

i beat ravager and called it a day

[misty wren]

i think cheese stopped at like pbg

[amber egret]

how havent you started again

just in like

Passing

[blazing field]

well right now i literally can't but i do want to start a brainstorm playthrough

but mostly before whenever i did i would open calamity up,

[spiral dove]

hooray rod of discord dropped

[blazing field]

and then immediately lose motivation

[blazing field]

nice

[spiral dove]

so happy i had to spend 30 minutes on that instead of 5

[blazing field]

Like

"Oh, i wonder what i can do now!"

• Fight Moonlord
• Fight PBG

"Ah."

[cunning nacelle]

this weapon dumpsters dog a little too hard in my opinion

[blazing field]

I do want to get around to it eventually just to experience the post ml boss fights

Even if

realistically

i don't think i'll enjoy most of them

[steep path]

WHAT!! That's like the best part

[blazing field]

Plus with brainstorm existing,

i can atleast look forawrd to DoG now

[blazing field]

Mmmm

Not sure if i agree given that it has a noticeable lack of non-boss content

[twin geode]

You WILL love Plaguebringer Goliath

[amber egret]

reasonably just fight ML and ignore PBG until post Polter

[blazing field]

And i actually don't care much about boss content in terraria in general

[twin geode]

[blazing field]

Oh no i really hate pbg actually

[twin geode]

[blazing field]

Yeah but here's the problem, ML is also lame as fuck 😭

PICK ONE

HELL TORTURE

HELL AGONY

[steep path]

I just like the huge power trip you experience in the last third of the game lol makes you feel badass

[amber egret]

pick one: everyone dies or everyone gets kicked in the stomach

[blazing field]

The lesser of two weevils

[twin geode]

Umm dinner with jay z

[misty wren]

you should join ccc brainstorm playthrough we do dumb shit like pre hardmode ravager for half an hour

[amber egret]

yeeesss. Weevil.

[blazing field]

if only

[barren hollow]

I mean you're a mod, you can like calamity for other reasons than the bosses. If you were a dev it might be a different story but even then if they are working on something unrelated it still wouldn't matter too much.

[blazing field]

pc bricked to death

[amber egret]

cant you just Hoik

[blazing field]

I mean even the devs don't really like the calamity bosses as they are

And they're trying to shift calamity from being bossrush central into having a more generalist content approach

[twin geode]

Which Is great

[blazing field]

Terraria combat is just very simplistic to me

Which is not necessarily a bad thing,

But does make it kinda not that appealing to me personally

[twin geode]

So you like the building aspect entirely?

[spiral dove]

i think they aren't doing it right really

[blazing field]

Imo terraria combat is at its best when there's a focus on making the enemies you're fighting extra cool

[blazing field]

They've barely started doing it

Brainstorm was the firt major update since fabsol died

[blazing field]

Cuz with the player being so simple in how they operate,

The enemies themselves, be it normal enemies or bosses

[misty wren]

i mean yeah in singleplayer you can but it tends to work a lot less in multiplayer with 9 other people and also would still take half an hour

[blazing field]

Will carry alot of the fun part of combat by being mechanically interesting and fun

[barren hollow]

Understandable, if what they did to brain they do to other bosses I'll be genuinely happy. Personally I like terraria for the bosses and combat but I definitely understand why some don't. Mod of redemption is one of the best Terraria mods for that reason

[blazing field]

It's why Empress and Fishron are by far my favorite vanilla bosses

[golden oyster]

Oh neat there's a channel for this in specific.

[amber egret]

no itd be fine

source itd be okay

[brittle escarp]

Sometimes I honestly do Plantera->Golem->Cultist to get pillar weapons and then go back and clear everything else out

[blazing field]

Some modded bosses do it realy well

Fables'sw boss fights are great

[brittle escarp]

Maybe throw in leviathan too

[amber egret]

i just ignore any boss i know makes me mad

unless i know my gear is good enough

[brittle escarp]

So true

[blazing field]

I also really want to get around to trying spooky mod sometime,

Their boss design looks awesome and it just adds alot of cool content in general

Unfortunately. CANT!

[amber egret]

for example! my post ml is Profaned Guardians -> Polterghast

[brittle escarp]

I just recently finished my first run of the update and Exo Mechs kinda folded me

[blazing field]

computer? BRICKED!

[amber egret]

(pre 2.1)

erm. mortar it?

[brittle escarp]

I got jumped so bad I actually used a summon with my main weapon, which I normally try to avoid

[pseudo vector]

now that we have the brainstorm baggage off of our back we can actually start making more meaningful changes to the mod and start to improve the overall game experience

[grim pecan]

so that's what mpg was talking about.

[golden oyster]

Anyway I'm wulvrum acrobatics stan and I say that its update...is good and bad. Actually asks you to use gravity to move quickly with it, which is fair enough. An overall nerf as far as I can tell right now but I do enjoy the added utility of moving up and down on the hook.

[brittle escarp]

I think providence is easier than profaned guardians ngl

[blazing field]

Yeah Brainstorm is just a bunch of miscellaneous leftove rchanges from SSO

It's really just,

freeing the dev team of a burden

[misty wren]

i think shooting your computer out of a mortar would make it worse actually

[blazing field]

Much less than it is a properly planned out update

[void gull]

why did rune of kos got renamed😭 ?

[amber egret]

no Fool like Brick And Mortar

[amber egret]

because who is Kos

[violet plinth]

What is good ranger weapon pre plantera?

[blazing field]

The previous name was just ripped off from some other media iirc

[misty wren]

dark souls character

[blazing field]

The new name makes more sense with the lore

[void gull]

it sounded cool af

[misty wren]

literally just dark souls

[blazing field]

Yeah its just a name stolen from dark sousl

[brittle escarp]

Like right before plantera?

I like the animus sniper shotgun thing from calamitas clone

its really good

[pseudo vector]

we had so much stuff on our backs that brainstorm was a necessary update to actually get all that stuff out to people to play

[violet plinth]

I just killed 3 of mech

[blazing field]

Yeahh, otherwise

[barren hollow]

Put some respect to bloodborne.
Dark souls character. Tsk tsk

[lyric trellis]

Growing pains

[misty wren]

fun fact same goes for yharim iirc, from what i remember yharims name comes from the city of yharnam and yharon is yharim + dragon

[blazing field]

People would've just been waiting for even longer while you guys plan out the team reorganization and stuff

[brittle escarp]

Wait really?

[blazing field]

And they've already had to wait for 2 years for a major update

[misty wren]

yes

[brittle escarp]

I never noticed that, thats really cool

[blazing field]

Brainstorm is just a win-win

It gives fans the major update theyve been waiting for so long,

[amber egret]

what the fuck Yharon Vietnam????

[blazing field]

and it frees devs of part of the sso hell burden so they can actually get to planning stuff out properly and figuring out what needs to be done and changed and etc

[misty wren]

no its not its fucking stupid why is the main antagonist of everything named after a fucking city

[twilit forge]

Yeah most games with simple combat have juiced the fuck up enemies, since your simple kits allow the bosses to really flourish

[amber egret]

parents were a fan of the place

[twilit forge]

It also works vice versa

[brittle escarp]

Because bloodborne is dope

[blazing field]

Good example of this is hollow knight

The player is actually really simple in their kit

It's mostly the enemies being engaging and designed around making you use taht simple kit in clever ways

that makes it really fun

• the customizability aspect of charms

[lyric trellis]

Yharim’s mom…

[blazing field]

In terraria,

alot of the enemies are really simplistic too

Almost all of the normal enemies, and i dare say most of the bosses

[amber egret]

ythink they'd be proud or dissapointed in their son

[brittle escarp]

Also, ranger no longer just being minishark, phantasm, and snowman cannon clones (other than flamethrowers which got their own reworks) is actually like the best thing ever

[blazing field]

which is why imo vanilla terraria combat is not really super interesting sometimes, atleast to me

Again, evenin vanilla

[twilit forge]

For example the yakuza games are PISS easy dear god, but the joy of back combos or juggles more than make up for the f tier enemies

[blazing field]

theres exceptions

i think Empress and Fishron are great

[misty wren]

empress would be really good if not for FUCKING EVERLASTING RAINBOW

[brittle escarp]

True melee got overhalued as well, right?

[blazing field]

They have good attack variety, attacks that can hit hard but have clear ways to avoid them, just overall very well designed fights that are challenging and fun

[high scaffold]

If we are being real you can count all of the actual bosses with one hand

[blazing field]

I really like fables boss design, SPECIALLY sir cnidrion

SIR NAUTILUS

BRAIN FART

what the FUCK is a sir cnidrion

[pseudo vector]

[misty wren]

i hate everlasting rainbow its so bad

[spiral dove]

well i don't think they started with the right things to do

[amber egret]

i actually havent played fables

mainly bc its really really short

[brittle escarp]

Its just the enmy but it like a suit jacket

[spiral dove]

or if things they did were necessary in general

[blazing field]

Again,

Brainstorm wasn't a properly planned out update

[amber egret]

once fables is Completely (bosswise) done

[blazing field]

It was a bunch of changes they had in the back while making sso

Which in of itself,

was a development hell

[misty wren]

and poorly planned

[blazing field]

Due to both the previous shitty lead + Sunken cost fallacy

[amber egret]

i will play Fabless and i will Liekly eNjo yit

[pseudo vector]

the fish mines..

[blazing field]

It was just a bunch of miscellaneous changes put out,

[amber egret]

what teh Fuck is my Typing Method

[blazing field]

Both so the players actually FINALLY get a major update

and so the devs can ease up on the pressure of needing to get something out while they take their time to plan out stuff

[twilit forge]

Brainstorm was comprised of completed fractions of the sso vomitted out

[blazing field]

now that the previous bad owner is fianlly gone

and they have way more freedom

[blazing field]

Yeah 😭

[lyric trellis]

Gonna be hype in 20 years when every terraria mod is finished

[blazing field]

Fables can be really fun if you dont actually go on it expecting a full playthrough

Like,

You can just go in there to fight the cool new bosses and stuff and stop rather than forcing yourself to go until ml

[spiral dove]

but they knew people wouldn't like the changes, so why even add them in the condition they did

[amber egret]

i cannot comprehend 20 years from now without massive anxiety bc i cannot plan that far

[blazing field]

I'm not sure what you're saying

[twilit forge]

Fables is like a demo

[misty wren]

did you read the message

[blazing field]

If changes were added, it was because they were added for the perceived good of the mod

[brittle escarp]

I do not mean this in a rushing way, obviously brainstom just came out, but is there a expected timeline for the sunken sea update, or is it just in the future?

[blazing field]

They wouldn't add changes they explicitly think were bad for the mod

[amber egret]

they could add the "give everyone a puppy" button and some people would hate it for the idea of owning a pet is troublesome

[blazing field]

Nope

[brittle escarp]

Fair enough

[blazing field]

Sunken Sea Overhaul might be put on the backburner for now

Due, to, again

[pseudo vector]

we want to do smaller, more focussed updates going forward to prevent updates like brainstorm from happening again

[blazing field]

how much of a development hell it had

[amber egret]

there is no 100% unanimously agreed upon thing

[blazing field]

Devs are really burnt out on it

[spiral dove]

?

[high scaffold]

SSO as we knew it may or may not be sometimes

[pseudo vector]

plus we just want a break from the fish mines

[misty wren]

the update is named brainstorm partially because brain of cthulhu but also i believe because brainstorm can be abbreviated to bs which is shortform bullshit and the devs were just kinda bullshitting while getting the update out

[amber egret]

and if it DOES exist, then humanity's likely a hivemind

[brittle escarp]

that makes sense

[twilit forge]

Brainstorm is such an apt title since the random things that were changed seemed fresh out of brainstorming sesh

[blazing field]

SSO will happen Eventually ™

Likely not soon

[spiral dove]

i'm saying that if a separate mod had to be made to revert changes they did (because they knew it would not be liked), should the changes be made in the first place?

[misty wren]

"they pushed these changes so players actually have an update"
"ok but why did they push these changes"

[blazing field]

It's not because they "knew it would not be liked"

[pure maple]

I'm really hopeful about that big update because a lot of the changes in this update were a really mixed bag

[blazing field]

It's because they knew some people would want those changes back

[brittle escarp]

Well having both means you could play with or without the mods, so everyone gets what they want

[blazing field]

The changes were still made because they are considered to be better for the overall good of the mod

[misty wren]

separate mod did not have to be made separate mod was made because someone would make it eventually

[high scaffold]

Honestly if there will be a new update with more reworks in a few months Im all for it

[pure maple]

Which?

[blazing field]

People can have preference, and that's fine

If you can play with QoL changes, you can download the QoL addon

[amber egret]

if we get an update every APPROXIMATELY 6 months, i would be a happy camper

[blazing field]

that dosen't mean that the QoL should be in the base mod

[terse dew]

There's a mod that re adds Fabsol shit. That doesn't mean they shouldn't have removed Fabsol shit

[blazing field]

^

[misty wren]

there are mods like unnerf calamity out there which just flat revert any nerfs to vanilla items calamity does but that doesnt mean those nerfs are bad for the game or shouldnt have existed

[blazing field]

:p

[terse dew]

🫤

[twilit forge]

Still think toggles would be a better option but idgaf lowkey

[blazing field]

Merkalto still dosen't have the Merkalto role

this is unfortunate

[terse dew]

Yeah you can make one though

[grave rock]

can i say its really funny when people who go "oh why do i have to download a different mod" pretend liek they were calamity purists

[twilit forge]

QoL complaints in a modded experience are such nothingburgers imo

[distant raft]

they should make a mod that readds future bosses because future bosses were very good and healthy for the game and they should've been required for progression and they were very good

[pseudo vector]

[blazing field]

Removing QoL is alot harder than adding it

[grave rock]

im kind of

surprised

[blazing field]

So i think generally it's for the best to just

[barren nacelle]

Okay Fabsol you can come out now we know it's you

[brittle escarp]

Also, I got a super crit with the arc capacitor ring and all that for the one giant chargeable beam that always crits and got 300k damage in a single shot against polteghast. Actually the coolest thing ever. The entire shade it spawned just got atomized

[blazing field]

Not have much QoL in a mod like calamity,

that is supposed to be focused on content

[amber egret]

fun fact: you cannot play calamity mod just wiht calamity mod

[grave rock]

that no one has done a catalyst kinda thing to future bosses

[amber egret]

you do need other mods

[barren nacelle]

Yeah...

[twilit forge]

Guys guys please bring back old dog sprites and fight i love slow ass laser walls oh yesssss

[blazing field]

Cuz what if i want the Content but think the QoL makes certain aspects of the game too easy or trivialize them?

[barren nacelle]

Calamity mod music

[amber egret]

exactly

[spiral dove]

but if the changes ARE controversial, why not make them a separate mod, instead of forcing them into the actual one?

[amber egret]

you got two mods now

[blazing field]

It's alot harder to remove that tha nit would be for, say

[grave rock]

yeah music but thats a dependency thing it doesnt count

[distant raft]

i remember seeing someone on the cal subreddit describe the qol toning down as a bitter medicine and yeah i totally agree with that

[blazing field]

...Does it matter?

[amber egret]

do you

want like

eighty mods

[terse dew]

Fun fact: you can just cheat items in if you want them 😀

[amber egret]

for each update

[blazing field]

If you like the QoL changes, you can simply

[barren nacelle]

This is obscene and should be cause for execution of every cal dev, along with their moderators and patrons

[blazing field]

Install the mod that adds them

[distant raft]

YES

[blazing field]

Calamity is a content mod

[amber egret]

i know you dont mean to say that

but like

[gloomy grove]

controversial? 😔

[spiral dove]

no, i want controversial changes to not be made at all

[blazing field]

It should be, at its base

a content mod

[misty wren]

this is exactly what happened the qol changes were added to the mod that readds those qol changes

[high scaffold]

I wonder if "change vanila textures" toggle in mod options will ever be utilised

[grave rock]

no one do anything ever

[terse dew]

Modding is cheating anyways

😊

[lyric trellis]

Best qol mod

[blazing field]

Almost every change is controversial

[spiral dove]

yeah i'm saying it should be the opposite

[blazing field]

This is the biggest mod for anything ever

[distant raft]

there will be people who complain about literally fucking everything

[misty wren]

this is why triple a games suck btw

[blazing field]

Everyone will complain about Everything

[grave rock]

lets all go chud mode nothing should happen ever

[amber egret]

#calamity-update-talk message from me

[distant raft]

people will complain about the exos rework being too hard and that it should get reverted

[barren nacelle]

Groundbreaking, Daybroken's sprite is reverted

[summer shore]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[golden oyster]

I wonder if anyone has reported the Dash Store Acrobatics Pack glitch yet...

[barren hollow]

I just need one that's just reverts the wing change. I really dislike it

[gloomy grove]

i like how this convo happens every other day now

[twilit forge]

I wish life had qol

[golden oyster]

I should probably do that

[grave rock]

or too easy!

[blazing field]

You can check #1052323733961977947

To see if anyone has

[amber egret]

"i dont want controversial changes" so nothing changes

[grave rock]

i dont get what u do with acrobatics pack

[blazing field]

Fridges are my favorite QoL

Now i don't need to salt my food to make it last longer

Shoutout to Cellphones too

[grave rock]

its a fun item that i dont quite get the utility of

[terse dew]

Calamity mod community unable to let things go...? Unheard of.

[high scaffold]

Maybe could be used to make mechs look more like other draedon creations as I havent seen him ever using stainless steel

[amber egret]

everything is a controversy for at least one person and if its not, then uh. You've Invented The Hive Mind

[barren nacelle]

Nothing should ever change guys it should be boss rush only just boss rush forever I do NOT want to engage with the games mechanics and Calamity should be responsible for making sure I don't have to

[spiral dove]

like i assume the qol removal is a part of a bigger overhaul, why do it now?

[blazing field]

I can talk to my friends overseas without needing to write down letters and wait weeks for them to see it !

[twilit forge]

Mmm yeah but sometimes i wish i could portable sundial through school

[brittle escarp]

Also, I might just be stupid, but is there a way to make the ligh beam bigger in the abyss? I feel like it would be very hard to fight eidolon wyrm without being able to see the worm or the projectiles

[gloomy grove]

[grave rock]

torches!

[amber egret]

the QoL removal is less a removal and more a "Go Experience Other Things Maybe"

[twilit forge]

Why do i have to study this is mindless grinding GIVE ME AN A ALREADY

[gloomy grove]

torches or equipment that makes it brighter

[grave rock]

void torches work iirc

[misty wren]

you can use tier 3 and 4 abyss torches

[brittle escarp]

Oh neat

[blazing field]

I wish i could just buy a diploma for 3 dollars from a npc

[brittle escarp]

I didn't know those existed

[blazing field]

rather than needing to grind for it in school

[brittle escarp]

TRUE

[amber egret]

like RoD got moved from Wizard BACK to its home, but made a lot easier to get

[rancid pagoda]

Brainstorm is a bigger overhaul

[twilit forge]

RIGHT

[brittle escarp]

Doing my quantum homework rn lol

[misty wren]

fun fact you can!

will it be legitimate probably not! but you can!

[grave rock]

daily brainstorm discussion

[blazing field]

it will probably get you arrested eventually, but you can!

[barren nacelle]

Abyss Torches. Fathom Swarmer armor and Reaver armor also make the flashlight bigger, and The Camper, Fathom Swarmer Visage, Giant Pearl, Jellyfish Necklace, Mining Helmet, Reaver armor's explorer set bonus, and Shine Potions increase radius.

[terse dew]

I will say there's some qol calamity has that I think should always stay like boss summons being non consumable because no one wants to go mine 15 iron ore to make a mech summon every time they die

😊

[grave rock]

billions must brainstorm

[pseudo vector]

we’re at a weird point in calamity’s history, since at this moment there’s the old fabsolian gameplay philosophies and the post-fabsol team’s gameplay philosophies clashing at the same time

[twilit forge]

Having a little less QoL is giving Adam Sandlers Click

[high scaffold]

Even real life got them damn "qol" mods

[amber egret]

Calamity is kinda an Amalgamation

[misty wren]

the idea is that boss summons are only consumed when you win

[twilit forge]

If you skip the “boring” aspects of life, then everything else becomes meaningless

[blazing field]

yeah i think thatd be good

[gloomy grove]

this is pretty nice yeah

[blazing field]

, with some exceptions

like

ok

[grave rock]

thats how fargos does it!

[gloomy grove]

not exactly

[blazing field]

frankly i think the celestial sigil should just not be consumable at all

[amber egret]

in some places, its quite Beautiful. its the proper mod peopl expect from The Most Downloaded Content Mod Last I Checked

[blazing field]

even in vanilla i wish it was like that

😭

[brittle escarp]

true

[dusk bronze]

true

[amber egret]

in others, its Very Ugly, Scarred, even

the Goal is for all Beauty

[high scaffold]

Be born, die

[misty wren]

yeah sigil should just not be consumable

[gloomy grove]

this one i agree with

[brittle escarp]

Are the event spawners supposed to be consumable now?

[barren nacelle]

Yeah or I could kill everyone

[misty wren]

yes

[barren nacelle]

Kill 7 billion people

[brittle escarp]

😔

[twilit forge]

Fuck yeah lets do it together

[grave rock]

what hppens to the remaining billion or so?

[high scaffold]

Why spare a billion?

[pseudo vector]

ideally like cheese mentioned, we want to turn calamity into less of a boss rush and make it into an overall more balanced experience with actually interesting and meaningful content outside of the bosses

[spiral dove]

so far it didn't add new incentives to explore/farm, it readded vanilla ones

i don't want to do things i do in vanilla in a big content mod

[twilit forge]

Once we kill everyone me and crisp are finna 1v1

[misty wren]

sigil being consumable only works when theres an obtainment method that doesnt need you to spawn pillars for it

[grave rock]

brainstorm is def a step in the right direction

[amber egret]

instead of boss rush, its gonna be EVENT RUSH BABY OOA TIER EIGHT BILLION

[spiral dove]

that's why i install a mod in the first place

[barren nacelle]

The ensuing carnage.

[amber egret]

WOOOOOOOOHOOO YEAH BABY SITTING ON A ROCK DOING BUMALL FOR EIGHT HOURS YESSIRRR

[barren nacelle]

Then install another dude

[brittle escarp]

Honestly that makes a lot of sense. Doing a run in 14 hours is fun and all but like adding more out of boss stuff would be awesome

[barren nacelle]

Idk what to tell you.

[grave rock]

calamity gave players a weird expectation of qol in their content mod

[gloomy grove]

then install... a qol mod?

[barren nacelle]

Go play Fargos if you want a content mod with qol

[pure maple]

Oh my fucking god I was wondering about that

Genuinely who the hell decided this

[terse dew]

terraria calamity mod is supposed to be the same as it was 10 years ago actually nothing should have ever

[gloomy grove]

the push for wanting to have "modpacks" clashing with calamity players wanting everything in one singular mod

[barren nacelle]

Don't come to Wendy's asking for a McChicken.

[terse dew]

😁

[barren nacelle]

Several people have been typing

[amber egret]

wheres the restaurant analogy

[barren nacelle]

scary

[rancid pagoda]

one of the good changes because it was getting annoying that pirate maps and bloody tears wouldn't stack and you got tons of them

[brittle escarp]

Wait what is the point of having everything in one mod. Then you cant customize or change anything. Thats a second game, not a modded experience

[amber egret]

someone made a really really really good one a while back

[twilit forge]

But what if the patty flipper has McDonald as their surname

[misty wren]

calamity does not exist to supplant vanilla

[twilit forge]

Give me my fucking McChicken.

[barren nacelle]

Does wendy's even serve chicken sandwiches

Actually they might

[brittle escarp]

I think they do

[barren nacelle]

Cuz they have nuggets they aren't like

great

[grave rock]

this is very goomba fallacy but
calamity players deciding if they want to play calamity (their everything mod) or their 100+ mod modpack

[barren nacelle]

but theyre not awful

[blazing field]

dont come to wendysd and ask for a Delicious Buttered Lobster

i will not give you a Delicious Buttered Lobster

i hate you

fuck you

[terse dew]

Goomba fallacy is so funny

[blazing field]

die

[twilit forge]

I haven’t had Wendy’s in so long bruh I swear they don’t exist in China

[gloomy grove]

whenever i bring up that it should not be calamity's job to provide qol last year, one of the reasons i get is that

[terse dew]

Why'd goomba get associated with it

[spiral dove]

it's a content mod, it is installed to have an experience vastly different from vanilla

it's what content mods are

[brittle escarp]

Like Idk, I use unlimited potions because I don't want to potion farm, but I absolutely do not think that it should be part of the main mod

[grave rock]

literaally just cuz the original image used goombas

[blazing field]

I don't think you understand what content mods are

[barren nacelle]

For a while in Japan Wendy's had a Lobster burger

[misty wren]

by adding to vanilla, not supplanting or removing it

[barren nacelle]

launched with a Caviar Burger

[high scaffold]

Oh so humble issue of tmod where the more mods you have the laggier it gets

[pure maple]

See I get that but I'm on the other side of the coin because what possible purpose could it serve to go send me to fuck around at the ocean for an hour to get enough maps for a greedy ring? Why was that needed?

[grave rock]

is this even true

[pure maple]

Yes

[brittle escarp]

I havent had that personally, but calamity is my only big mod

[pure maple]

I've experienced it, having a million little mods causes lag even when they're lightweight

[pseudo vector]

my mod count never goes above 25-30 95% of the time

[blazing field]

Y'know

I wonder how this would work if like

[misty wren]

inherently yes due to more mods meaning more code running
each grain of sand in a desert is contributing

[blazing field]

Something like this existed fro monster hunter,

[amber egret]

#suggestions-discussion message here's a take from InstaFiz that i personally enjoy a lot, specifically the third paragraph

[blazing field]

Much like in Terraria, grinding stuff is a core element of Monster Hunter

[amber egret]

(its a bit of a brick wall)

[terse dew]

calamity mod should become several tiny mods that each change only 1 part of the game

[golden oyster]

Did it.

[terse dew]

🤩

[blazing field]

if you add a mod for Monster Hunter that makes you be able to only kill a monster like

once

and get everything you need

That's kinda just fucking up the gameplay loop of it

[grave rock]

btw

[high scaffold]

I have experienced it myself, adding a number of any mods, even tiniest ones will impact the performance

[grave rock]

random completely unrelated question

[rancid pagoda]

hunting monsters is kinda literally the game yeah

[blazing field]

Terraria is a sandbox though so there are afr more options to playstyle than monster hunter, so i will saay that,

but also its still a pretty big part of it regardless

[grave rock]

how do i make the game not brick itself sometimes on worms

[brittle escarp]

Would it be better, in that case, to have the boss drop all its stuff, sure, but then add more stuff between bosses that are not that boss? Because right now everything between plantera and moonlord is so close together its like 2 tiers of gear total

[terse dew]

Download more ram

🤓

[pseudo vector]

debuffs usually cause lag on worm bosses

[gloomy grove]

MONSTER HUNTER MENTIONED RAGHHHHHHHHH

[brittle escarp]

omg I hit Astrum deus with a photoviscerator. Worst mistake of my life. I had to watch it go by frame by frame for like 10 minutes lol. It was so funny

[blazing field]

I feel like people have just been

[barren nacelle]

I watch monster hunter challenge videos and a lot of them follow Nuzlocke Rare Candy rules where if you get it once you can have an infinite amount and I always gotten taken aback by it

[blazing field]

Kinda gaslit by calamity ... ?

[grave rock]

the main issue w lag is that it feels like im cheating without meaning to

[rancid pagoda]

there was daily quests in MH World that gave you tickets to just buy outright whatever rare gem you needed from any monster, though

[blazing field]

For lack of better term

Atleast how calamity is currently

[terse dew]

calamity mod is problematic media

[blazing field]

Like i see so many people say i play calamity os much i can never return to vanilla now

[grave rock]

cuz lag lowk feels like it makes things easier

[amber egret]

i think people've been kinda cozy on their armchairs and didnt really expect the backrest to be lowered to halfback insteada full back

[brittle escarp]

Im going to be real, I have played base terraria like 5 times and calamity like 40+

[blazing field]

And like, i play vanilla pretty often

[brittle escarp]

300 hours vs 2000

[blazing field]

A\nd damn man

idk i find this stuff to be fun

[grave rock]

oh soooooo its the amalgam's fault?

[blazing field]

killing enemies for rare loot

[amber egret]

like yeah its still an armchair, its just a bit harder to sit and now you gotta think a bit more about sitting there, you cant just lay all the way back

[barren nacelle]

Whenever a Tmod player gets too QoL brained they should go sit through a vanilla Thorium playthrough

[blazing field]

going around mining and building

[brittle escarp]

No I agree entirely

[blazing field]

its part of the gameplay

and idk its fun to me

[brittle escarp]

I wish there was more, not less

[blazing field]

i feel like calamity just

removed those elements

[terse dew]

people think more bosses = better because hype moments and aura (serotonin)

[gloomy grove]

its surprisingly a good idea as the tickets arent just handed out to you

[blazing field]

and becasue of taht people just dont ever engage with them and stop enjoying them entirely or atleast dont even try to enjoy them

[misty wren]

vanilla is good im just too used to calamity base buffs

[blazing field]

Not removed entirely of course

[dusk bronze]

unfortunate

[brittle escarp]

I enhoyed having to farm a bit to be able to beat the next boss, and not just slaughtering them all in a row

[rancid pagoda]

mining and building to make your monster farming more efficient

[blazing field]

But calamity does just

cut down on it alot

[barren nacelle]

New QoL content just dropped!
QoL or Boss Rush?
I assure you sir, it's very good QoL.
Look inside.
Boss Rush.

[gloomy grove]

and im going to be for real, farming xenojiva and zorah magdaros for their gem is a task and a half

[blazing field]

It feels like people are so used to how much calamity streamlines Everything for fighting bosses

That they have a really hard time actually trying to enjoy the more vanilla experience

[terse dew]

some people might like the lore

[barren nacelle]

I play swaxe and I had to grind Gaismagorm for a thousand years

[misty wren]

its always a struggle in vanilla getting used to not having any base speed at all

[pseudo vector]

there’s probably going to be some people that aren’t going to like that we want to make the calamity experience not just a 30-40+ hour boss rush

[barren nacelle]

I got two gems before I got his tail

[golden oyster]

The changes made to Acro Pack causes it to launch you into the air really fast, which is hilarious when paired with Featherfall:

[twilit forge]

Terraria has such good ambience when ur building and shit DONT RUIN IT GUYS ITS SO PEAK 😭

[brittle escarp]

It also might be better if the jump between each boss was greater. Like the boss drops something strong enough to farm the new enemies, the enemies drop materials strong enough for the next boss. Not directly Boss-> Boss

[gloomy grove]

3 teostra gems in one hunt but zero zorah gems across like 20 attempts 😔

[blazing field]

Yeah i will say

both in calamity and vanilla,

[amber egret]

there should be a mode for calamity called "Speedrunners Mode" where you pick a class, you pick a difficulty, and it just gives you the ontier testers gear for each and every boss

[blazing field]

enemys r kinda lame ash ell

like regular enemies

[dusk bronze]

yes this pleas

[twilit forge]

Listening to whatever while making my wooden and stone slab shoeboxes…

[blazing field]

I do think its good to have fodder enemies

[amber egret]

gives you an arena, gives you the tools, and gives you a boss

[brittle escarp]

well fair

[blazing field]

that you can just

[terse dew]

What's the opposite of reddit gold

[twilit forge]

Shit got me tearing up

[blazing field]

kill lots of

[blazing field]

Nono im like

[brittle escarp]

I mean even like new ores to mine and stuff

[blazing field]

agreeing wit hyou

[amber egret]

uuhh a downvote

[barren nacelle]

But there's also the issue of just bad difficult enemies

[misty wren]

existing on reddit

[pure maple]

With the amount of vanilla changes this update was like the anti QoL update. It has actively rendered the game more of a pain in the ass than vanilla in several spots for no reason other than vibes.

[blazing field]

I think some enemies should be morwe interesting and difficult to engage with

[terse dew]

Whatever it is that's what that comment would get

[grave rock]

the spoilers for sso enemies have made me so so hopeful for enemy design

[misty wren]

not even close

[terse dew]

😧

[dusk bronze]

curse of cheese sentence typing

[blazing field]

How has it made it more of a pain in the ass for vanilla

[barren nacelle]

Shit that has sure hit domains like Gastropods

[terse dew]

Not from me though

[blazing field]

If anything,

[brittle escarp]

True, more miniboss type enemies that drop more stuff, so I dont just do zerg+battle+ go until I die