calamity-update-talk

[fathom girder]

I've had so many runs that just never get blood moons across modded and vanilla lul

Apparently enemies that drop bloody tears can spawn in a graveyard biome though?

and you can make gravestones in calamity

[stuck vigil]

9 hours 30 mins to be more specific

[stuck vigil]

oh didnt know that
thats real helpful thank you

[modern rampart]

took me FOREVER to get my first blood moon and now they're pretty common. its probably fine

[wide wadi]

your world just sucks i got 3 blood moons and 7 merchents

[stuck vigil]

dangit

[stuck dune]

I can't play on master rev anymore, just expert rev or master death :(, i think it is supposed to be like that, right?

[fathom girder]

Correct

They streamlined the difficulties for ease of balance and for much easier like

advice between players

[modern rampart]

yeah. rev is "expert rev" and death is "master rev" now, basically

[fathom girder]

and then there's malice in the corner

legendary calamity difficulty

[stuck dune]

Where? Im playing rn and can't find it

[fathom girder]

gotta be in a legendary world for that

[stuck dune]

Ohh

[fathom girder]

ye

[pseudo vector]

ftw / gfb exclusive

[stuck dune]

Thx guys

[sonic quail]

Do the calamity boss revamps/reworks require you to be in death or less, or can you be in infernum and still see those revamps/reworks?

[fathom girder]

Infernum has its own AI changes, don't use it if you wanna see what brainstorm did

[urban star]

wil the new terraria weapons like the whips be balanced for calamity? i assume not knowing how close the releases are

[sonic quail]

alr thansk

[granite sapphire]

Likely

Usually vanilla weapons are buffed though

[jagged copper]

are you fucking kiddng me

[granite sapphire]

I can see cobwhip and the evil whips being buffed or retiered

[tribal isle]

those wings are so fucking cool

[granite sapphire]

Part of xyk or wtv

[wide wadi]

slipped up should have predicted he would curve

[granite sapphire]

Prefer exodus ngl, but I'm also just kinda edgy and into Gothic aesthetics

[tribal isle]

i really need to play the update ive been burnt out of terraria for a looong time

[wide wadi]

me too

[tribal isle]

i did like 7 infernum playthroughs in a row like half a year ago and im still burnt out

[granite sapphire]

Rookie number

[jagged copper]

he doesn't curve mid-charge, he only did so because he's forced into the laser grid attack at a certain hp percentage, except it seems he'll immediately interrupt whatever he was doing

[urban star]

wings are sick

what are they called

[granite sapphire]

Theyre not their own wings

Called Xyk's blessing or smgh

I think they're pre boss or something, but purely vanity

[urban star]

im using them in my playthroughs from now on for looks

[granite sapphire]

Yeah, but if only they vanity set could be toggled tho...

Vanity set isn't exactly appealing

[urban star]

ima find a way to make it cook

[granite sapphire]

I'ma just play terraria since watching my brother play games is genuinely the most boring thing ever

Freaking only sports games and Roblox sports games

[tribal isle]

pre boss wings?

[lapis oak]

Use other transformation vanities in lower slots

It'll take priority and still keep the wings

[jagged copper]

and it happened again, this is really pissing me off now

[stuck dune]

Fuck it, I gonna try legendary malice mode

[distant raft]

"legendary malice"

[stuck dune]

Sorry im new to these new stuff

[acoustic palm]

Does wrath of the god work for Mutli player

[lethal kraken]

boner defeated

[hard copper]

No

[raw falcon]

no, it's xyk's blessing, it doesnt modify the appearance of your wings to what is seen there, but doesnt grant wings by itself

[jagged copper]

FUCKING WHY

WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO ME

[granite sapphire]

I just said purely vanity

[radiant sparrow]

Is that sped up???

[jagged copper]

no?

why, is it generally slower for you?

are you playing on Rev or Death?

[twin mural]

is that Malice

[jagged copper]

does malice affect the laser grids? Because I was told Malice only affects his movement

[radiant sparrow]

I played rev and that's so fucking quick

[jagged copper]

oh right

[lapis oak]

grids look normal

[radiant sparrow]

You actually have time to react

[jagged copper]

that laser grid attack is from death

[lapis oak]

yes

[radiant sparrow]

Oh that's death mode....

I'm in for a time and a half then

[jagged copper]

it's ironic how the hardest part of Malice DOG is the part that's completely unchanged

then again, right afterwards he'll do rift lunges 10 times

instead of 5

also just gotta edit the wiki page to include this in the FTW/Malice section

[acoustic palm]

What’s the best biome blade place?

[jagged copper]

as in which attunement is the best?

[acoustic palm]

Yes

[jagged copper]

idk, don't like using the biome blade weapons anymore

[silk basin]

I'm a real big fan of the new Draedon shrimp guy for summoners

[halcyon seal]

Doesn’t he also rift lunge infinitely at low health

[halcyon seal]

Try it and see

[jagged copper]

that's why I said 10 times, he loses 1% HP each time he lunges

and starts at 10% HP

[halcyon seal]

Does he?

[jagged copper]

only in Malice

[boreal quarry]

What optimization mod do I download to reduce the lag of wotg

[jagged copper]

in Rev and Death he'll do 3/5 lunges respectively then go back to lasers

it's funny looking at the changes, all that Death does is buff the shit out of his laser attack

wait what really?

only his laser attack?

hm

[acoustic palm]

Yo where is the sunken sea lab

I can’t find it in the sunken sea

[native thistle]

what da hell am i supposed to do with the final ravager phase??

[distant raft]

idea: try and cheese a dog instakill through ontological despoiler and arc flash ring

[native thistle]

real and true

[dull heart]

I believe it does yes

Iirc it makes them tighter and less time between them

[dull heart]

It also makes him faster

Death makes him faster, I believe have a tighter turn radius (might have axed), and raises laser wall by one level

[stiff hinge]

so

i have a question

when is the dog rematch getting added?

[dull heart]

And raises portal dashes by one level too

I think

Laser levels
1- walls
2- grids
3- Hyperdeath grids
4- triple grids

[dull heart]

Rematch?

What rematch

[stiff hinge]

iirc there was a dog rematch getting talked about

[rain ocean]

bro calamitas clone rework is pretty insane

[stiff hinge]

somewhere before brainstorm

unless i'm hallucinating

[dull heart]

dog got a rework but there's no rematch plans

[silk basin]

Way off topic but the fishing minigames make me feel like an idiot

[stiff hinge]

wierd

[lapis oak]

Use Cyan Seeking Mechanism, it can really spawns far outside of the biome right now

[dull heart]

Portal dashes
1 - single
2 - triple
3 - penta

[silk basin]

I'm not sure if it's any faster or stronger than regular fishing but missing the Wulfrum Bobber's inputs is so insulting lmao

Is it any better? Sure is more interactive at least

[austere ginkgo]

do we know when they will fix the burrower?

[dusk bronze]

what's broken about it

[sonic quail]

What are all the bosses that get a revamp or rework

[dusk bronze]

literally everyone except boc

and like
maybe providence

[austere ginkgo]

when it highlights an ore it makes so many particals that it makes projectails including wepons broke

[dusk bronze]

that's an unrelated bug

[austere ginkgo]

and the only way to fix it its to close and re opean the game

[dusk bronze]

the burrower does not cause it

[austere ginkgo]

ah

[dusk bronze]

it just happens i think

[austere ginkgo]

i was told it was related

ok ok

[sonic quail]

Wait so brain and prov dont get reworked/revamped?

[austere ginkgo]

but do we know when that will be fixed me and my friends havent been able to play much because of it

[dusk bronze]

brain just got reworked

[sonic quail]

shhh

but all the other bosses get like a qol or redos?

im a bit slow

[dusk bronze]

not sure what that means but the fights will change dramatically

[sonic quail]

So the AI is different

[dusk bronze]

yes

[sonic quail]

does it also do it in multiplayer

[dusk bronze]

also a lot of people seem to like provi's current fight so idk how much it'll change

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[sonic quail]

alrighty

[spark kiln]

what the actual fuck did they do to death mode plantera

why is this the hardest and stupidest boss ever made

[lapis oak]

Death Plantera is literally projectile vomits it's insane yeah

glorpshit all over the screen

[spark kiln]

i love the last 20% where it’s non stop dashes with millions of spores coming out of every dash

[lapis oak]

using non-homing weapon is literally a major disadvantage for your eyes

in that fight

[polar tide]

god i remember struggling against plantera until i caved and used cd's stupid ass calclone build he kept telling me to use and that's what helped me win and i was so mad

[spark kiln]

i’m gonna assume this is some bullshit fabsol cooked up before dying

[arctic cliff]

yeah this is a bountiful harvest one

[spark kiln]

no it wasn’t like that in bh

[tropic jolt]

I thought they reverted all the master BS

in BS

[arctic cliff]

fun fact: my master rev+ playthrough ended because of this plantera

[tropic jolt]

isnt golem even worse btw

[lapis oak]

no Golem is better

[arctic cliff]

yes, not even skeletron oblivion could stop me but this guy did

[lapis oak]

still shit but it has some nice attacks

[polar tide]

i beat golem first try with reaver gear in brainstorm. lol

[lapis oak]

to justify it

[arctic cliff]

im not even ready for golem lol

[tropic jolt]

maybe im thinking of maso golem

[granite sapphire]

Well firstly reaver is op unless it's defense was nerfed

[arctic cliff]

this is a friendly reminder that infernum's golem is not only infinitely better than base calamity golem, its better than vanilla golem

[lapis oak]

Golem has some new attacks that are able to compensate the shitshow of its Fab's core

😭

somewhat

[arctic cliff]

its easily one of my favorite fights from that mod

golem

btw

[lapis oak]

not like 50/50 tho

[astral vapor]

Oh, yeah, I absolutely loved infernum golem, it made the fight genuinely so fun ???

[polar tide]

@pseudo vector please show them your stupid ass calclone build i cnat find it

[granite sapphire]

Masoftw is the most fun I've had on golem ngl, Infernum is kinda slow

[pseudo vector]

yeah gimme a sec

[jagged copper]

ah right, so the wiki is missing a few things then

[dull heart]

Yeah

[jagged copper]

I added a FTW/Malice change but that's basically it

[dull heart]

I may have forgotten some too

What did you list for FTW changes

[dull heart]

okay so there's more

[grand mirage]

Damn that new DoG fight was great

[spark kiln]

this is the worst thing ive ever seen

[astral vapor]

I used Oathblade and demolished her

[quiet quarry]

terraprism doesnt drop its bug??

[spark kiln]

is the boss health % config fixed in mp

[astral vapor]

Changed

[earnest jewel]

But what if she has scaled in her power?

[eager bone]

ok bro

❤️

[dull heart]

• Phase splits are 25/5? 20/10? seconds instead of 15/15
• Top peed is dramatically increased in both blue and pink phases
• Pink phase has changed turning logic
• Laser grids have less cooldown between attacks
• Head takes 2x damage
• All attacks and movement are predictive

off the top of my head

[astral vapor]

peed.

[dull heart]

plus the 10% desp

[polar tide]

peed

[spark kiln]

city boiiii

[eager bone]

He was a didy. (Yharim) She was an foid. (Calamitas). Together they are Diddy foid 💞 Have a good night folx 😁

[jagged copper]

last part, not all are predictive, only in aggresive phase. In passive he still just follows you directly

[polar tide]

now everyone will know you said peed

[dull heart]

No, it is genuinely all predictive

[jagged copper]

huh, never really noticed it during passive phase

[dull heart]

Before his entire AI I set the position to target to a predictive position in front of the player

So literally everything is predictive

[polar tide]

maybe takes the cake for the hardest a calmain message has ever made me frown

[spark kiln]

❤️

[jagged copper]

it's a lot more pronounced during aggressive phase as he misses me a lot

[dull heart]

yes

Because I reworked his turning logic to do that

[eager bone]

@Fabsol I am sorry

[dull heart]

his turning radius is insanely high once he gets 1400px away from you until he faces at his goal position

[dull heart]

At that point, his turn radius gets nuked

[pseudo vector]

LOL THE TWIDDLEFINGER IN THE CORNER I DIDN'T EVEN REALISE UNTIL I POSTED IT

[eager bone]

what is that painting family

[pseudo vector]

calamity canvas

don't question it

[polar tide]

i used this to kill plantera everyone have fun

[dull heart]

This doesn't work anymore

[polar tide]

the what

[dull heart]

Due Abaddon nerf/broken

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/heonism-for-the-love-of-god-please-please-gif-24062262

[polar tide]

why even fucking live

[eager bone]

cdmusic will you vote in the gd awards

[pseudo vector]

already did

[eager bone]

W

if anyone else wants to vote make sure you vote for Crime and Punishment for best platformer extreme and GToast for best platformer player 👀 👀 #NotSponsored

[polar tide]

cdmusic will you come to my birthday party

[earnest jewel]

That sounds like what someone who is sponsored would say.

[pseudo vector]

if you give me a thousand dollars to fly to the states sure

[earnest jewel]

CDMusic will you delete Reddit?

[pseudo vector]

i wish i could

[eager bone]

last year they nominated me and i didn't win so this year i am going full scorched earth and have paid ~$400,000,000 to various PACs to alter the results of the Geometry Dash 2025 Awards. Robtop will fall glory to Toby fox

[distant raft]

crime and punishment???? the russian novel??????

[eager bone]

it's named after that i think but it's not that

[earnest jewel]

Since when did Geometry Dash have awards?

[eager bone]

2021 i think

[polar tide]

:D

[distant raft]

genuine question has anyone ever read crime and punishment pre-limbus

[earnest jewel]

Someone probably has.

Now I'm reminded that I have to read Dracula.

[eager bone]

u don't have to

you can just use an AI (Grok, ChatGPT, MrBeastAI etc) to summarise it for you

[earnest jewel]

Well I have Dracula, and I intend to read Dracula.

I will boil you.

[eager bone]

🙁

[distant raft]

@grokgpt generate me a one star dracula review and post it 40 times to every book review site

[eager bone]

🤖 GENERATING.... CREATING USERNAME.... USERNAME "Sorbet Cafe" GENERATED...

[vivid hemlock]

this vexes me

[rich ginkgo]

wtf is this convo

😭

not a single cal or terraria mention

[high scaffold]

I wonder if void of extinction is going to get a new effect and not just red dust fountain

[distant raft]

yes

it will get 3 red dust fountains

[polar tide]

look at my cat

[high scaffold]

Also I think the abaddon is broken or something as it says it applies a debuff while in reality it doesnt

[spark kiln]

worst boss oat

[boreal quarry]

My game lags during wotg bosses what do I do

[shut dove]

Hey idk if that's right place to ask. After update rune of kos dissapeared. Did my calamity mod version died or accidentaly devs deleted it?

[neat dock]

it has a new name

mark of providence, iirc?

[lapis oak]

it's called Mark of Providence

[shut dove]

ohhh.... that makes sense

[neat dock]

is there some bug with driftwood

because like.

usually i get like 10-20 per catch

[granite sapphire]

I love slagsplitter

[neat dock]

and then sometimes i get 200-350

????????

[polar tide]

LOL?

[lapis oak]

that sounds funny you should totally not report that

[neat dock]

i found another funny bug

[gloomy siren]

guys, please tell me how to craft tbf its heavily weakened in the new update

[granite sapphire]

recipe browser

[high scaffold]

A jackpot

[gloomy siren]

The craft that doesn't work on wiki

[neat dock]

black glass band is a little silly i think

[lapis oak]

yeah the bangles

[distant raft]

thsi should be added as a feature

[lapis oak]

they uh

[distant raft]

it grows silly little legs and runs away

[lapis oak]

they make non moveable enemies be able to run

[high scaffold]

Actualy quite a number of swords do this too

[granite sapphire]

even the clam

[distant raft]

if i had to guess its kb resist override

[granite sapphire]

and gss

[polar tide]

they do it to perforator cysts/hive tumors too its funny

[earnest jewel]

Uh, don't you think the most famous Irish novel is worth discussing?

[distant raft]

dracula (novel)'s irish????

[rich ginkgo]

no

[distant raft]

you learn something new everyday

[granite sapphire]

"did it just grow legs and run away?"
yeah actually

[earnest jewel]

Bram Stoker's Irish.

[distant raft]

is your wulfrum amplifier running?

[obtuse hawk]

Well you better go catch it

[granite sapphire]

I wonder what Grand Dad does to the giant clam when it's outside of the sunken sea

Cause it usually just throws it into the ground

[neat dock]

how do i even explain this

[granite sapphire]

Oh yeah the KB also affects the ultra dummy's from prismas very weirdly

Specifically the flying ones

[neat dock]

i mean tbf thats not really calamitys fault

other mod stuff

[granite sapphire]

I don't think I mentioned it was

[neat dock]

yea but still

[granite sapphire]

I said weirdly affects them as in a peculiar way, because the normal dummy's do

but still didn't mention calamity being at fault

[astral vapor]

Oh, yeah, I've had cysts do that too !

[arctic cliff]

this happens with the batholith too

i dunno if it gets effected by the marble one but yea

[flat folio]

Very gud cat!

[brave star]

That’s a very awesome car

[teal bone]

awesome cat

[jagged copper]

oh come on she's not that bad anymore

there's worse

(moonlord)

[distant raft]

since dog is predictive surely theres a way to cheese him

[jagged copper]

that's only in Malice

and if you think you can cheese his aggressive phase, think again

[pine onyx]

Ranger has such ridiculous dps lmao

[distant raft]

surely high accel would trivialise it

[pine onyx]

though survivability sucks ass

[jagged copper]

have you seen how fast he is

[distant raft]

yeah

[jagged copper]

you cannot cheese him

he will literally outpace you in terms of non-dashing movement

[halcyon seal]

Why is that cats black part of the face shaped like 💀

I’m not crazy right

Also awesome car what model is it

[spark kiln]

never wanna do that again

[pine onyx]

death mode?

[distant raft]

oh no im not trying to outrun him

[spark kiln]

yes

[neat dock]

wulfrum lure seems to kill bait consumption

[pine onyx]

Makes sense

[fathom girder]

Known

[distant raft]

does the accel from the striders line stack

[distant raft]

i have an idea

[high thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/wally-west-speedster-no-diff-no-concept-of-diff-negative-diff-gif-17141192896969137460

[distant raft]

oh no im not running

[high thicket]

🐂

[halcyon seal]

I didn’t know they stacked

JOUSTING LANCE META

[distant raft]

i dont know if they do

[spark kiln]

yes it is that bad bro

one of the worst bosses i ever fought

[distant raft]

i dont think the accel stacks

[jagged copper]

I know, you're trying to make him miss constantly

abusing the prediction AI

problem is that his movement and turn speed increases to a point where you can't move enough in time, even with high acceleration

[radiant sparrow]

I keep the orb in the centre of vernal pass and it makes the fight so much easier

[distant raft]

is there any way to actually tank dog head

[earnest jewel]

If you believe in yourself...

[radiant sparrow]

A shield bash works

Ous cuz

It feels really cool actually

[deft lily]

the creature

it glares at us

[neat dock]

flesh totem?

[deft lily]

👀

[distant raft]

ok and how does that reduce damage taken

oh yeah did flesh totem get fixed

[neat dock]

though thats way too inconsistent

[radiant sparrow]

It has never dealt any damage before

[distant raft]

what i'm hearing is that it doesn't reduce damage taken

[fathom girder]

I don't think it's reasonable to try and tank a 600 damage attack

[radiant sparrow]

That's bs because when I shield bashed into dogs head I'd come out alive

[distant raft]

1200

[fathom girder]

Oh!

Well that makes it even worse then

[distant raft]

with full dauntless and moonshine ive got 1002 max hp

[neat dock]

pact?

[fathom girder]

It counts as contact damage

So tarragon armor

[neat dock]

huge

[distant raft]

tarragon requires preemptive triggering

[jagged copper]

if we're talking Malice, uh, no. His head deals over 1100 dmg

[fathom girder]

You could maybe use a regen setup as well

Wait wait

Add sergeant united shield block AND a parry accessory

[neat dock]

malice dog definitely deals too much damage

[radiant sparrow]

You can dash with a shield and it negates it right???? Or is that a rev only thing

[neat dock]

you can!

[distant raft]

thats dodging

[neat dock]

but its

[distant raft]

not tanking

[neat dock]

yeah its dodging

[fathom girder]

Yes yes we know about ram dash but that ain't tanking

[neat dock]

but also its not super easy to do that regardless

[fathom girder]

We are here to eat the damage

[jagged copper]

we're talking about tanking, which is where you straight up take the damage

[radiant sparrow]

The timing isn't bad at all...it's quite generous

[distant raft]

and if youre wondering yes i already have a shield slam

[jagged copper]

it's Malice

[radiant sparrow]

I see

[distant raft]

have you done malice dog before

[jagged copper]

it's gonna be that way

[neat dock]

ftw dog

[radiant sparrow]

No, fuck doing malice

[neat dock]

accelerates forever

[distant raft]

only deep diver can actually keep up

[neat dock]

in phase 2

[fathom girder]

Malice is funny

[radiant sparrow]

Of its ftw aswell

[distant raft]

hell im not even sure if it can keep up

[neat dock]

and it gets to the point where normal shields with ambergris

are too slow

[distant raft]

theres a reason why cinnamon roll is being disabled for this fight

[jagged copper]

behold

[fathom girder]

Wait what about getting the old Duke accessory

[neat dock]

dash too much

[jagged copper]

all you need is Elysian Aegis + Ambergris

also pay close attention to the mini-icon

[distant raft]

no i am not using cinnamon roll

[jagged copper]

because sometimes he'll miss

[jagged copper]

I don't use it

[fathom girder]

Isn't he predictive in malice

[jagged copper]

yes

[distant raft]

yeah

[fathom girder]

I can't imagine he misses all too often

[jagged copper]

that is why I say to pay close attention to his icon

he's only predictive until he charges at you

there's no set rhythm

[radiant sparrow]

Just have a big screen duh

[fathom girder]

WAIT

[jagged copper]

it's pure reaction time and adaptation

[fathom girder]

Dissonance hook

Just teleport past every attack

[jagged copper]

that sounds very niche

also the hook is slow

compared to hooks you would have by that point

[neat dock]

bloom stone reaver visage

try my recipe boy

[radiant sparrow]

How much of a step up are the harder bosses in death compared to rev?

[pine onyx]

slightly nerfed infernum DOG btw

[radiant sparrow]

Just stats right

[jagged copper]

pfffffffft, Infernum is as predictable as ever, it's the same rhythm every time

[pine onyx]

Ye its a joke

[jagged copper]

Malice DOG however actually can throw you for one

either by missing or flying at you with immense speed, more than inf DOG

and there's the buffed laser grids

[dull heart]

Not with acro pack

but yeah malice dog is much much harder than infernum

Lemme find my malice clips

[jagged copper]

well I've been showing mine

[distant raft]

yeah inf dog is baby mode compared to this

[dull heart]

One of these clips is so evil

[jagged copper]

(also like, Inf DOG took me 32 atts to nohit I kid you not)

[dull heart]

I thits the second one

On the second one he did an evil shimmy throwing off my timing

Wait, no the first

[distant raft]

im guessing insidious impaler is the best weapon for him

[spiral turtle]

Sees an exo-mech based mount added

[dull heart]

24 in

[jagged copper]

yep

[spiral turtle]

gets excited

[dull heart]

Death's Ascension is better

[spiral turtle]

it’s a master mode exclusive

[dull heart]

Insidious is easier

[jagged copper]

Impaler has the benefit of better ranger and homing

[dull heart]

well, actually, with the nerf it's probably closer

[distant raft]

also on rev

[lapis oak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjRlxq5umg4

[distant raft]

rev gives master drops

[lapis oak]

yoooo who were talking in this vid 😭

[spiral turtle]

OH SHIT NVM THEN

FUCK YEAH

[distant raft]

wow! thanks youtube

[lapis oak]

were you in there @dull heart

[spiral turtle]

I mean rev is basically the standard calamity difficulty anyways imo

[dull heart]

No

[spiral turtle]

Not that it isn’t hard af but it’s pretty much what the game is built around

[dull heart]

Anyway the best malice dog murder item now is almost definitely Galileo Gladius

[jagged copper]

@dull heart btw what do you think of the music I've been using for DOG?

[lapis oak]

Xyk's game volume is like so loud compared to people's voice volume sob

couldn't make out of any shit

[dull heart]

It's so familiar but I can't place what it is

It must be something in smash

[grave rock]

mario and luigi!

[indigo wraith]

so orderbringer rework is uhhh

pretty good

[dull heart]

it's stupidly broken

[grave rock]

https://youtu.be/NIUkK_P-5ak?si=4lqZ4_hVCtcyqB0O

[indigo wraith]

exos torture weapon

[dull heart]

can get a 2:50 exos in testing gear

[indigo wraith]

actually nah

everything torture weapon

[dull heart]

Malice dog is such a good fight

like it's such a meme but

I actually find it so fun

[twin mural]

its literally infernum dog
(not complaining)

and its has its own style

[dull heart]

it's pretty different

[twin mural]

ive always wanted to see the Devourer with Infernum moveset but vanilla calamity sprite

[jagged copper]

hang on here's a vid that includes Phase 1

[dull heart]

infernum dog is similar but like

[twin mural]

infernum sprite is kinda weird idk

[indigo wraith]

also arc flash ring is genuinely so cool

probably my new fav accessory

[twin mural]

the dashes are different

[dull heart]

yeah

the way it ends up playing is VERY different

[twin mural]

his turns being off screen

i find it cool ngl

[dull heart]

not just that but like

The fact he's predictive in everything he does makes a huuuge difference

[twin mural]

and the build up in speed?

[jagged copper]

like I mentioned before, it makes him much more reaction-based

[dull heart]

the speed not as much as the prediction

Infernum dog feels like memorizing a chart in a rhythm game

[regal vessel]

No big deal

[dull heart]

Malice dog feels like sightreading a chart in a rhythm game

[regal vessel]

Actually that is a pretty big deal

Orderbringer is ez to get

[jagged copper]

yes, Malice makes him gain movement and turn speed at an insane rate during his aggressive phase

[dull heart]

Their inteded time is 6;00 lol

[dull heart]

3x top speed lol

[vivid hemlock]

btw doze when do you think the slagsplitter resprite will get implemented

[regal vessel]

Ok yea thats flawed

Orderbringer gets immediate nerfs

[jagged copper]

NO NOT MY LOVE

[dull heart]

I'm pretty sure orderbringer is loke

On par with Earth

If not better

Probably just on par

[lyric trellis]

Probably better because apparently Earth was balanced around a slower Exos time I think

[dull heart]

lol

[stiff hinge]

we need this ported to tmodloader

[distant raft]

it already has been

see: Quality of Terraria

[stiff hinge]

good to know

[regal vessel]

Are Exos intended to be fought before SCal

[stiff hinge]

intended around the same time

[wide wadi]

Yeah

[worldly trench]

either or. I find ares apollo to be the easiest.

[distant raft]

didnt get him as low but i actually got into the pattern so im counting that as my best attempt yet

[mystic eagle]

Same tier

[mystic eagle]

❌

[radiant sparrow]

Scal is way easier

[distant raft]

exos and scal are same tier

[mystic eagle]

Difficulty is subjective

[distant raft]

like boc and eow

[twin mural]

SCal is easy with the exo box

well

idk

i havent played new SCal

[mystic eagle]

Exos are easy with Tainted Orderinger

[worldly trench]

whichever one you kill first makes the other easier

[distant raft]

yeah i'd imagine that a postgame item would make the boss easier

[radiant sparrow]

Honestly neither are super hard but exos are hard when you have summons taking up the screen

Like me having sepulcher

[regal vessel]

Tru

[worldly trench]

cosmic immaterilizer my belvoed.

[mystic eagle]

It's not postgame yet

[regal vessel]

Exos arent required for progression though right

[mystic eagle]

They are

[dull heart]

first person to ever say this

[dull heart]

They are the final boss alongside scal

[mystic eagle]

Exos are one of the final bosses

[dull heart]

so completing the mod is killing both exos and scal

[stiff hinge]

for the time being.

[regal vessel]

Thats pretty sus

[dull heart]

for the foreseeable future

[deft lily]

completing the mod is when you delete it

thats how you win

[dull heart]

Amen

[radiant sparrow]

I don't actually dislike the exo fight, they are pretty cool but scal has more aura

[stiff hinge]

until yharim gets added in 2077

[regal vessel]

Actually it makes sense

[distant raft]

fuckkkkkkk

[regal vessel]

Cause you kinda need draedons forge

[worldly trench]

what's peoples issue with the cosmic summon.

[regal vessel]

Is Old Duke still getting the resprite

[astral vapor]

• progression
• end of the mod

[regal vessel]

I just think its visually boring

[radiant sparrow]

That's the death circle beam thing right?

[worldly trench]

true but also doesn't nuke your screen with effects.

[stiff hinge]

wait is yharim planned still as the primary final boss?

[regal vessel]

Yes

[twin mural]

Exos*

[distant raft]

yeah

[stiff hinge]

good to know

[radiant sparrow]

A swarm of 28 awsome bugs are coming to devour your home

[dull heart]

Yharim? More like yharmama

[mystic eagle]

Yha-ha-harim

[dull heart]

:sunglassesexplosion:

[mystic eagle]

Yharman

[twin mural]

the Exo Mechs are the best bosses in the entire mod and i will die on this hill for this
-# This message has been sponsored by Draedon Exo-Technologies Inc.

[jagged copper]

what is more painful? Nohitting Malice Calclone or shaving with a cactus?

[young notch]

I know you’re joking and the exos 100% suck. But I have a huge soft spot for the fight in its current state, even though I think it should be changed.

[twin mural]

oh yeah they need to be reworked 100%

[jagged copper]

I have the same feeling, though Wrath of the Machines is right over there and constantly tempting me

[grand mirage]

Has WotM been updated?

[twin mural]

even if the actual fight is a lackluster for the moment i still believe they're the best

[jagged copper]

yes

[young notch]

They’re bad in their current state, but the challenge that’s present might make for the only modded boss in Terraria that I’d actually call a superboss

[jagged copper]

there's a strong argument to be made for SCal ever since her border was changed

(though SCal's projectles now feel sort of out of place in the fight)

[twin mural]

yeah i know

but i dont care

Exo-Goats

[grand mirage]

I believe in worm supremacy

[twin mural]

specially Ares

[jagged copper]

Ares: Floats above you menacingly for 95% of the fight

[twin mural]

reminds me of the fear Skeletron Prime used to induce me when playing in xbox360

[tribal isle]

Why doesn’t yharim just add himself to the mod

[jagged copper]

he's still got crippling depression, give the man some space

[twin mural]

yes

[tribal isle]

You think yharim would design a good yharim boss battle

[jagged copper]

I think he already tried

new lore for THE LORDE

[dull heart]

Malice clone is so evil now

With the arena doing what it does

[jagged copper]

are you telling me Malice does something to the arena?

[dull heart]

yea

[jagged copper]

[twin mural]

does touching the arena borders in malice instakill you

[dull heart]

no

[twin mural]

they should then

[deft lily]

no

[twin mural]

yes

[dull heart]

They should teleport you like the borders of an asteroid game

[twin mural]

lol

i kinda thought of that as an strategy for Infernum SCal once

[jagged copper]

ohhhh no, so, touching the bottom teleports you to the top?

[twin mural]

placing portals to the left and to the right of the arena

[spark kiln]

is there a bug that’s causing no enemies to spawn in the 2nd layer of the abyss

[dull heart]

Not actually

But it'd be funny if so

[jagged copper]

so what actually happens?

[dull heart]

I think it just shrinks with hp

So does scal I think

[jagged copper]

oh so sort of like the final phase, but on a slower scale?

[dull heart]

yeah

[jagged copper]

actually that makes me think

did all the bosses get new changes in Malice compared to before?

or just some?

[dull heart]

no

[jagged copper]

so all FTW changes from before are still here, but with some added changes on some bosses?

[distant raft]

glad dog lost the ichor glob vomit

[urban star]

is this the best melee loadout for boss rush, my main weapon is earth with aflame and tainted orderbringer

[radiant sparrow]

why is he so fucking big ???

[distant raft]

probably draedon's heart over affliction an calamity over void sash

[jagged copper]

Death makes him fat

[distant raft]

calamity is mult damage now

[jagged copper]

FTW makes him fatter

Old Malice made him fatterer

the result?

[radiant sparrow]

got to half hp but then he sped up like a mf god damn

[jagged copper]

yeah he will

seems like he'll also stop teleporting at low hp

[radiant sparrow]

this is the diff ive been looking for tho atleast

[jagged copper]

yep

plus you can't rungod him anymore

same goes for slime god

they will constantly teleport in front of you

[radiant sparrow]

i think getting the sheild of cthulhu is my best bet rn

[jagged copper]

not really

[radiant sparrow]

i never really run with them. i just abuse the teleport

[jagged copper]

you just need a good double jump

either blizzard or sandstorm

[radiant sparrow]

cloud :(

[jagged copper]

and preferrably in their balloon horseshoe upgrade

[spark kiln]

zerg btw

[radiant sparrow]

im trying to find a grav potion so i caan get a cloud for a balloon

[spark kiln]

no enemies spawning

[jagged copper]

yeah that's the worst one

[jagged copper]

if you can't find one, make some

build up to space and farm harpies

[ancient shell]

Is anyone having lag issues with Halibut? firing with any bullet is causing me a fps kill, like shooting into air or far distance mobs, or even a dummy if i'm not too close

[jagged copper]

did you make a report on it?

[jagged copper]

including musket balls?

it does fire a metric shit ton of bullets so it's gonna cause lag

[ancient shell]

yeah, any bullet, i just tried on singleplayer

it still drops but stays above 30 fps

[spark kiln]

halibut has always been laggy

[jagged copper]

best not to use it

[ancient shell]

but in MP, it goes down to like 5

[jagged copper]

that's just multiplayer stability for you

[arctic cliff]

now that i got chaos stone, whats a good mage weapon to combo with that to start off

[jagged copper]

(it's never stable)

uhhhhh Gleaming Magnolia?

[dull heart]

Yea known bug

I've been trying to solve it unsuccessfully

[tribal isle]

Wasn’t zerg killed

[spark kiln]

no and nothing is spawning

[jagged copper]

no he went on to play ball with his son

[spark kiln]

it’s not the zerg causing an issue

[jagged copper]

oh wait wrong zerg

[tribal isle]

I thought they were getting rid of zerg

[spark kiln]

no

[distant raft]

oh yeah are stabbers the best summon for dog

[jagged copper]

Sirius

[distant raft]

damn

[jagged copper]

went from peak to mid and back to peak

[dusk bronze]

went from peak to abysmal dogshit and back to peak*

[brazen belfry]

Why is farming plat so long now

[spark kiln]

blood moon behind dirt walls

infinite money

*on the surface

[brazen belfry]

Bosses give barely any now

[pure maple]

yea

[brazen belfry]

Exodium clusters give a lot less now aswell

[lyric trellis]

Everything gives less now yes

[brazen belfry]

Makes farming money so long

[urban star]

i deid on scal in boss rush

actually hate myself so much

[distant raft]

stratus sphere deals a pretty good amount of damage

its listed as stratus singularity right

that was exclusively in p1

[pure maple]

I popped into the server to see if there had been an explanation as to one of the broader brainstorm changes and I'm curious if y'all know anything-

Why were the "balance changes" to wings generally just "No more unique wing bonuses or functions, no more choices about what wings to use on what build, have a little bit of flight speed and maybe a quarter-second of flight time instead"? I assume this is to broaden choicemaking on what resources can be spent while progressing but it still feels strange

[dull heart]

no they kinda suck for him actually

[plush carbon]

The Devs didnt like it

[dull heart]

The wings DO have unique aspects

[distant raft]

damn

[dull heart]

It's just in their flight stats

Not in random boosts

angel wings have faster ascent than most wings for example

Demon wings have faster falling

The tooltips are horrific at showing these unique things to the player though

[pure maple]

I'm currently working through hardmode and I can feel the flight differences but it really does feel like wings matter Vastly less than they did before

[dull heart]

which is good tbh

Wings before had like one optimal pick at each stage that was way better than all others

Plus they're already a staple for mobility, they really should not be giving more value than that

[pure maple]

I enjoyed the consideration of trading flight stats for combat stats, but the change makes sense.

[dull heart]

Realistically you were almost never needing to do that anyway since every tier had combat wings

Wing Gimmicks in 2.1

• angel/flame/hadal: faster ascent
• aureate/empress/jetpack: boost
• bee: slow fall, unless you hold down
• betsy/hadarian/hoverboard: hover
• bone: snaps flight time in half on hit
• butterfly/spectre: breakneck acceleration
• demon: fast fall
• festive: spawns flight time restoring ornaments
• fin/fishron: merfolk mobility
• frozen/leaf: higher horizontal
• harpy, bat, beetle: higher flight time
• tattered fairy: leaves flight draining dust trails
• Lunar wings: Mobility based effect tied to its respective set

[pure maple]

Aureate Vs. Flame or Mothron wings

[pure maple]

appreciated 🙏

this will help a lot with figuring out what to do now

[distant raft]

oh yeah how long does stratus sphere stay out

[dull heart]

10 minutes

[dense sundial]

i really like how angel wings are good at going up and demon wings are good at going down

[distant raft]

insane

[dense sundial]

tis cute

[distant raft]

its just a free sentry

[dull heart]

yup

free sentry that also can extend your flight capability

[dense sundial]

make stratus sphere a sentry outright

[dull heart]

And/or boost your weapon

[dull heart]

you cooked it too long it burnt

[dense sundial]

tattered fairy wings spawn the flight-eating dust because they have nearly the best of all stats, right?

[lapis oak]

make every Sentry be able to moves like Sanctified Spark

[dull heart]

3.5 second flight time

so yeah

significantly higher than anything else in time

[dense sundial]

beetle has 3.5 too

[dull heart]

does it really

[dense sundial]

but i think it's noticeably slower

[lapis oak]

yes

[dull heart]

I guess it is higher flight time yeah

[dusk bronze]

MR BREAST

[tribal isle]

Did fairy get punished with no effect cuz it was overused the longest time

[dense sundial]

mr breast give me money

[dull heart]

It's just an all around wing

[lethal kraken]

this is just like funny mr beast quids game

also dang cosmolight post moon lord now

oh well theres the fargo item

[dense sundial]

the one thing i will say about 2.1 wings is can you nerf bee wings

[tribal isle]

So sad I don’t get free hp for free now

[dense sundial]

featherfall (that STACKS WITH THE POTION TOO) is insane

[dusk bronze]

it's post deus

also bakidon exists

[lapis oak]

hi doze

[tribal isle]

Who

[dull heart]

stacks with Caribbean Rum too

[dull heart]

are you in multiplayer

[dense sundial]

cro 💔

[lapis oak]

no

[dull heart]

how did this happen

[lapis oak]

I just died while doing post DoG Moon events

with Stratus Sphere and Sirius out

[distant raft]

ok with featherfall inside stratus sphere you just have unlimited flutter time

[dull heart]

I see

I'll fix that

Thank you

I know exactly what caused it

[lethal kraken]

oh yea meant that post cultist/deus yea

or no just deus

[lapis oak]

not a single replies on my reports dump yet this is so sad

[tropic jolt]

[dense sundial]

oh yeah i saw someone earlier stand inside infernum sg paladins and auger did not hit them at all

[dull heart]

peak

[lyric trellis]

Not even Augur wants to touch that boss

[dense sundial]

what does pulse pistol do with batho?

[dull heart]

nothing

It literally does 0 dmg

Instead of 450

[dense sundial]

what you're saying is pulse pistol is balanced

[dull heart]

yes

[dense sundial]

the only balanced mage weapon in the game!

[lapis oak]

for fun visual

[dull heart]

Literally what I was typing

[distant raft]

holy shit i actually managed to survive to p2 lasers

absolutely the best attempt yet

[dull heart]

p3 lasers then

25% is p3 and forces a laser wall immediately

[lapis oak]

how to make an extreme infinite click hack thumbnail for Youtube

[distant raft]

oh shit fr??

[grave rock]

:3

[radiant sparrow]

damn the desert nuisances are annoying man :(

[distant raft]

im definitely getting better

[twin mural]

can i adopt him

[radiant sparrow]

9 attemps at death mode desert scourge so far, i havent been able to get past the two worms as my movement isnt good enough

[urban star]

at last

[unreal bane]

hey buddy

i know you

[twin mural]

WHY IS HE FOLLOWING ME

[unreal bane]

new pet 🤫

[dusk bronze]

curious critter

[twin mural]

o

he doesnt hurt npcs

[dusty tinsel]

yah as long as you don't accidently hurt him he be chill

he is a filter feeder so not hostile

[twin mural]

:(

now i feel bad for all the times i killed him

he doesnt drop any good ranger stuff right

[raw falcon]

he drops a pretty good gun

seas searing

its great

[tribal isle]

Wait you don’t have to use the summoning item now?

[twin mural]

he does have summoning item

but i think he just randomly spawns sometimes

like

yo

[radiant sparrow]

tundra leash carries dude. thanks to my new found pet i killed desert scourge

[spark kiln]

yea it’s always been like that

[distant raft]

yeah it can naturally spawn in its passive state

[spark kiln]

AS can spawn naturally even in pre hm

[twin mural]

😭

[surreal glacier]

Agree

Looks like a bunch of numberslop

Definitely did notice the changes though
Like Butterfly Wings feel fantastic to use

[chrome totem]

Does the digging guy run away if it takes damage from something that doesn't actually hit it?

Like debuffs

[raw falcon]

why are you crying

[tribal isle]

Son

[chrome totem]

Actually, is it now called Burrower?

[raw falcon]

????

[chrome totem]

The wiki says it's a hardmode enemy but I keep seeing it show up around me when going underground

I haven't even beaten Queen Bee yet

[twin mural]

it means ill have to kill him

and i dont want to

[twin mural]

it was

[vestal osprey]

Is the orderbringer gonna be nerfed? It's kind of broken

[twin mural]

used to be the Armored Digger

now is a preboss "critter"

[raw falcon]

get a tesla amulet and murder it in cold blood

[chrome totem]

I honestly didn't even know it was removed tbh

[tribal isle]

I’m crine

[raw falcon]

or use auric ore

[chrome totem]

I thought I was just really unlucky or smth

[raw falcon]

works just as well

[vestal zephyr]

yo guys havent played terraria or calamity for like 5 years would u guys play plain new 1.4.5 or new calam update

[raw falcon]

1.4.5

get reacquainted with the game again

[twin mural]

it got removed but its essentially a rework

[raw falcon]

its also peak so

[dull heart]

calamity

I am biased

[raw falcon]

armored digger will return

[dull heart]

It was a rework

[twin mural]

its still a robot worm

except its harmless now and helps you to find ores

[dull heart]

Burrower is Armored Digger

it's just different now

[raw falcon]

There will be more

Also question can we get celestial starboard upgrades

[chrome totem]

Hurr... I thought it tried stealing from me or smth

I always hit it away

[tribal isle]

Can we get auric diving gear as an upgrade to arctic diving gear

[raw falcon]

it

it does steal ore

[twin mural]

wait what

[vestal zephyr]

i enjoyed and completed infernum during my times, whats the new hardest challenge regarding mod compatibilities?

[raw falcon]

yeah it physically mines out ore

the pet doesnt

the enemy does

[twin mural]

i thought it didnt

[chrome totem]

Funny enough I'm using a class mod that can just hit it in walls anyway so it never gets to break anything

[twin mural]

never saw it doing so

[raw falcon]

it takes a bit im pretty sure

[twin mural]

despite seeing it excavating a lotta time

[raw falcon]

so it doesnt just grief you

[fiery wadi]

doze what dinosaur are you

[radiant sparrow]

ive killed scourge liek seven times and it refuses to drop the rogue weapon

[distant raft]

faith incinerator? but i didn't see skeletron prime

[violet plinth]

Can a calmity pro answer this what weapon should i use pre plantera for ranger

[grave rock]

hey uh

is boss rush broken rn?

i killed slime god n nothings happening

[orchid finch]

It's not

Probably a mod conflict on your side

[pseudo vector]

go down to hell manually

wall will spawn automatically

[fathom girder]

rude

dev tells player to go to hell!!!

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-funny-drunk-meow-gif-10381022155799670207

[deft lily]

unacceptable

withdrawing 50 dollars

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/heonism-for-the-love-of-god-please-please-gif-24062262

[deft lily]

LOL

[orchid finch]

Look what you've done

You made Charlie cry

[deft lily]

sowwy cd 😔

[grave rock]

oh yay it worked

is it the same reason where if the center of ur underworld is fucked up the shellphone wont take u either?

[orchid finch]

Oh yeah that's a thing apparently

[deft lily]

?

[orchid finch]

Yeah it might be

I've never had issues this update because I have a world arena for BR

[fathom girder]

could be related but

It's an infernum issue

base calamity doesn't have this issue

[grave rock]

fwiw i dont have infernum on

[fathom girder]

weeeeeeeeird

[deft lily]

vcmm user spotted in the wild ‼️

[fathom girder]

who doesn't use vcmm

it's great

[orchid finch]

Hypnos is clearly fucking up yo shit lil brah

[deft lily]

people who dont know it exists

[orchid finch]

[fathom girder]

who is unaware of vcmm

[deft lily]

a LOT of people

[fathom girder]

let's change that

we shall preach to the world

of vcmm

[deft lily]

[earnest jewel]

Cold, abandoned, left to starve.
You can help, download VCMM.

[deft lily]

someone post it i cant cuz im warned

[grave rock]

JESUS

SIX SECOND SKELETRON PRIME

[granite sapphire]

neat

[grave rock]

i get shredding worms but killing him that fast caaught me off guard

[granite sapphire]

I hate base cal skeletron prime, that freaking AOE laser sucks, it's trying to be the laser orbs from Fargo's but can't

also it's just more annoying to dodge

[deft lily]

who doesn't

is the real question

[hazy yoke]

why won't the dryad sell every type of planter box

she's only selling 3

[earnest jewel]

Recession.

[deep bough]

Obsession, she wants them all to herself

[grave rock]

for some reason terraria has her sell them depending on the bosses u kill

[deft lily]

ai bubble has popped ‼️

[grave rock]

however theres no difference between planter boxes iirc

[hazy yoke]

how do I get the other 4

bruh I can't get all the planter boxes until post wof😭😭

I just want to complete my build man

[hot wadi]

I can't tell if you devs forgot to add the leftside wall but I ain't complaining about how nerfed the fight feels (damagewise) :D

[steep path]

lowkey I just buy daybloom boxes and then paint them whatever color I want

[covert gulch]

Does anyone know if the update today fixed issues with projectiles in multiplayer?

[dusk bronze]

what update today

[radiant sparrow]

death slime is so fast

[dusk bronze]

is 2.1.2 out?

[covert gulch]

oh my bad

I clicked on this discord and saw the mod-announcement page but thought it was the changelog page

that was a few days ago not today

I'm guessing there aren't any known fixes for that. Can my friend and I just not play Calamity until that's updated?

[earnest jewel]

You're saying that as if we're forcing you.

[covert gulch]

what?

I'm just asking if there's a workaround or anything my friend and I can do to not have projectiles periodically stop functioning.

[hot wadi]

We would know when #changelogs suddenly updates

[covert gulch]

It seems that without that the mod is unplayable in multiplayer.

[deft lily]

the only real workaround is leaving and rejoining when it happens

[dusk bronze]

2.1.1 didn't get a changelog

[deft lily]

not much else can be done abt it until its patched

[covert gulch]

Ok thanks Umbara, that's what I thought.

[dusk bronze]

idk it's fine for me most of the time

[deft lily]

your welcome

[dusk bronze]

yr'oue*

[covert gulch]

lmao

[deft lily]

explode

[covert gulch]

even in multiplayer?

Solo doesn't seem to be an issue.

[deft lily]

that same bug has happened to me a few times in multiplayer

never have i seen it in singleplayer thus far tho

[covert gulch]

alright cool. just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing anything.

[deft lily]

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