calamity-update-talk

[stuck kite]

take a gander

[barren nacelle]

Oh that's why

It's just called Shrimp

ShrimpBody and ShrimpTail

[stuck kite]

you do have to ikea assembly them

[barren nacelle]

Yeah...

I'm getting better at it

Tile hell

[stuck kite]

since the tail is code rotated it needed to do that

[barren nacelle]

How deep in the body is the anchor

[stuck kite]

yea if you're struggling to find files look back one folder and consider where else it would be suitable to be located in

alternatively just take a screenshot of the thing ingame behind white gemspark walls or something then key out the white

[barren nacelle]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Plasma_Shrimp.png
How does this look

[stuck kite]

thats how i do all the player images

[barren nacelle]

Is the tail too deep?

[barren nacelle]

Hell torture, my current computer can't run the game so I'll leave that to you

[amber egret]

is Plasma Shrimp a RoR reference

[stuck kite]

that looks fine

[barren nacelle]

Are its missiles code projectiles

Just like off the top of your head

[stuck kite]

yes they are particles

[barren nacelle]

Primo

[main estuary]

i never knew death brain had you fight his creepers twice

[wild burrow]

Hi, sorry if this was asked before but is it normal for minions to despawn after like 2-3 minutes?

[dull heart]

It's a known bug without a known cause

It's fixable by restarting tmodloader

[wild burrow]

What's the cause if i may ask?

[dull heart]

I just said without a known cause

[wild burrow]

Reading is hard

But many thanks i'll try that

[north plinth]

Dogs new death animation is so good

[manic fox]

devs rlly just said "haha let's just take infernum dog and make it better"

[dull heart]

actually it wasn't at all related to infernum dog

[manic fox]

Well it atleast feels like it

intentionally or not

But in the best way possible

[dull heart]

just proof that it's probably the best way to take the current build of dog

[tropic jolt]

the portal dashes feel really similar I think

[dull heart]

When both infernum and I ended up at a similar product

[tropic jolt]

probably the biggest similarity outside of malice

[dull heart]

The portal dashes already existed before just not chained

[manic fox]

It's the chained portal dashes for me and the aggressive-ish AI

[dull heart]

yeah

Now, malice dog

[manic fox]

also the laser walls

[dull heart]

That DID have infernum in mind

[manic fox]

are very nice

[tropic jolt]

something malicious is brewing

[north plinth]

the laser wall in second phase caught me off guard it was amazing

[manic fox]

laser walls had SUCH a glow up

and also I like the really scary laser walls in phase 2

and the portal charges really help build tension VERY quickly, which I think is great

[north plinth]

yeah it made the fight feel more fair but also harder

which isnt a bad thin

[manic fox]

it seems to be the perfect difficulty now

[north plinth]

teah

yeah

perfect boss tbh

[fathom girder]

I want it to be just barely faster

just like

Tiny tiny bit faster

[rough tiger]

why is the rift in the background of the dog fight just a low quality png?

[fathom girder]

um

huh

[dull heart]

Try malice :)

[fathom girder]

OH I'VE SEEN MALICE.

Why is red lightning there

what kinda nonsense do you have

[north plinth]

malice is back?

[fathom girder]

It's just the calamity difficulty for legendary mode

[north plinth]

ah

[fathom girder]

though the idea is vaguely similar

take dmode and then double it

[knotty violet]

did gaster fall into the core this update?

[rough tiger]

thats what i get with the fight

[north plinth]

i also like the draedon weapon rework of sorts

[fathom girder]

there's somethin' wrong then cuz he's not supposed to have red lightning lol

you got overhaul on or sumn

[knotty violet]

specifically referencing the patch note Removed the name "Gaster Undertale" from the Skeleton Merchant.

[fathom girder]

yeah they added a fun meter to the files that no one has found yet

[knotty violet]

get a certain fun value and you can find a gray door to draedons lab where draedon gets confused on your presence and kicks you out

[silent tiger]

just now i saw they removed evil biomes effigy stack >: (

[urban cloak]

breaks during boss rush, though that should've been fixed in the latest patch

[polar tide]

what the fuck is wrong with your game

[rough tiger]

can having a world in the previous update mess it up

[polar tide]

there isnt even supposed to BE lightning during dog

[tropic jolt]

its like some sort of storm

[polar tide]

shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up

[fathom girder]

my brain...

[urban cloak]

?

[fathom girder]

it's a STORM...

[urban cloak]

not sure what you're asking

[fathom girder]

like, does he have to remake the world

[rough tiger]

my world was made before the brainstorm update

[fathom girder]

because of the update

[urban cloak]

oh mess it up

no that wouldn't

[rough tiger]

then probably another mod i have

[urban cloak]

if anything you just haven't updated your mod to 2.1.1

[dull heart]

yeah

or used a monolith

well

no it should still disable the monolith version during boss rush i think

[fathom girder]

Xeroc's background usually overrides that stuff doesn't it

[polar tide]

i dont think they're even in boss rush

why the hell is there red lightning

[rough tiger]

could it be infernum

[dull heart]

Don't think so

[polar tide]

infernum does not spawn lightning during dog

[fathom girder]

infernum doesn't do it no

do you have

overhaul

what is your modlist

[rough tiger]

have it disabled

[dull heart]

I see wrwth of the gods

[tall mortar]

After Nameless Deity the world doesn't start, true ending =)

[dull heart]

Idk if that does anything

[rough tiger]

i have wrath of the gods too

[fathom girder]

wotg does have a lightning effect like that

[polar tide]

wotg also does not create red lightning during dog

[fathom girder]

perhaps somethin's fucky there

not during dog no

[arctic cliff]

hmmm

[polar tide]

im obsessed with this now how the hell did this happen

[fathom girder]

but it does create the lightning

[dull heart]

Yeah but it may be overlapping from multiple things at once

[polar tide]

i dont remember wotg making lightning much less red lightning but i could just be forgetting

like the void rift thing doesnt make lightning it just sits there

[fathom girder]

It's used during mars or sumn

I know it exists

[rough tiger]

the rift never pops up for me

[fathom girder]

modlist

MODLIST por favor

let's see what you've got

[rough tiger]

too many

[fathom girder]

we're tossin' sticks at the wall rn

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-bird-злая-птица-gif-11035121084204696939

[fathom girder]

"too many" is not a great start

[rough tiger]

im looking through for big mods

[fathom girder]

It could be anything

[rough tiger]

but i only rly have qol ones

[misty wren]

press f8 twice and you get a full list

[tall mortar]

I think Overhaul destroyed the world, but I didn't craft anything from it, so I don't see why I even bother, haha. Like, I killed all the bosses and defeated Terminus, but I can't craft any superpowered gear because the world died xD

[fathom girder]

oh nvm that's way different

[polar tide]

LIGHTNING DETECTED

[fathom girder]

okay then what on earth...

[polar tide]

lucille do you have any mods in that clip that would alter how the sky looks

idk if realistic sky doesthat or. something

[fathom girder]

SOMEONE POST THE IMAGE IT'S IMPORTANT

[stoic tide]

thats just avatars phase 1 background i believe

[polar tide]

so the mysterious red exo lightning still has no known source

[fathom girder]

I've seen it before I just can't nail where exactly

[polar tide]

i am unreasonably fascinated by this. literally where is it coming from

[tall mortar]

Previously, I couldn't kill bosses beyond The Devourer of Gods due to severe lag, but now fps hasn't dropped below 30, love it

[urban cloak]

the dark zone

you guys think avatar would like jackenstein

[north plinth]

guys idk how but i think thanatos glitches i had him on the screen for 5 seconds in his second phase and he died

[rough tiger]

lightning is gone now

[polar tide]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/084273031fafc514a5f41702f399efa1/4debea03bc4c156f-35/s640x960/952e94ffec62301c9ceb32a4532b0e6411d18e05.gif

[rough tiger]

but the rift is still broken

and i cant see it

[polar tide]

your game might be cursed or something idk. sorry

[rough tiger]

im getting the old background

[boreal quarry]

I thought I saw Goozma

[frail frost]

Anyone know what 2 attunements i should get on the biome blade

[twin mural]

is it me or calamity makes musket bullets way faster than silver ones?

[tall mortar]

my prefer is snow+hell, astral is cool and jungle have big DPS

[dawn mirage]

Alejandro_jandro_Tonos

Insta check it out trying to become famous

[twin mural]

who

[dawn mirage]

And make friends

I’m homeless

Check out my shit on insta

I’m m camping in the woods

[twin mural]

i just need an answer to my question

[dawn mirage]

And carving shit for money

[tall mortar]

hell attunement is big if u do good dodges nearly boss

[dawn mirage]

lol

[twin mural]

.

[dawn mirage]

Asked

??

Alejandro is me

[twin mural]

who gaf

i need to know

if calamity makes musket bullets way faster than what they should be

[flint zodiac]

is it just me or is pulse pistol cracked now

[lapis oak]

HI CHAT

I FINISHED THE PLAYTHROUGH IT'S FUCKING PEAK

CINEMA

I have soooo fucking much to talk about

[tropic jolt]

was it calamitous

[dull heart]

HI

[lapis oak]

made a document

[dull heart]

kiri now update the chart with everything in the changlogs now

[lapis oak]

I KNOW

the chart needs to be updated BADLY

😭

FIRST

[twin mural]

another patch got released

[lapis oak]

I want to talk about things that I've documented

[twin mural]

?

[lapis oak]

ye it was a hotfix

addded the possibly one of my favorite items ever

the fucking Pointer (it's so peak...)

[dull heart]

The Pointer goes hard

[cinder mural]

yo roots
I think i found a bug XD

[lapis oak]

it's so fucking peak I love it

[west glen]

What does the pointer

[lapis oak]

alright

so

Wulfrum Drone got resprited and vfx changes

[west glen]

When

[cinder mural]

my audio is now microwave

[lapis oak]

that's the

undocumented one

[west glen]

Wow, work on boss ?

[stoic tide]

wait this is fire wtf

[lapis oak]

Draedon Turrets

they're in the respective labs now that's pretty cool

I got to see how they function for the first time

it was nice

[cinder mural]

roots
idk if it's intended
but i think this is a bug when dashing near a rope while having xyk's dev item

[west glen]

But its good but take accesories slot, i dont think its that worth it

[dusk bronze]

looks fine

[lapis oak]

King Slime's new Jewel behaviours are nice to see

[cinder mural]

it's visual

[west glen]

Its a nerf ?

[cinder mural]

and your audio becomes microwave

it's funny

nothing groundbreaking but good to know

[west glen]

Because king slimz is prob the harder pre hardmode boss

[lapis oak]

also why EoC still have Bloodshots I thought we removed that already 😭

apparently it's just the Bloody Servants?

[urban cloak]

the boss minions died yes

[cinder mural]

so it's way too specific
it's with counter scarf and xyk's dev item

[urban cloak]

behavior wasn't touched for eoc tho

[cinder mural]

i tried with shield of cthulhu
it didn't worked

[urban cloak]

besides maybe slowing it down idk

[lapis oak]

gotcha

[west glen]

Its too east without bloodshot

[lapis oak]

I don't care

[urban cloak]

it'll get a rework sometime later anyways

[lapis oak]

Bloodshots need to die

EoC is a melee boss

[west glen]

Skill issue

[lapis oak]

?

[west glen]

Its pretty easy

[open garden]

i like the bloodshots it makes the fight less straightforward

[lapis oak]

whatever you say

[dull heart]

bloodshots fine

[lapis oak]

I just don't think it fits EoC

moving on

[open garden]

eye of cthulhu should have a full difficulty scal bullet hell

[lapis oak]

did u know? Sea Spirit Amulet's spirits will talk and turn orange

[west glen]

Lol

[lapis oak]

that's so cool

[cinder mural]

there is
its called calamitas clone

XD

[lapis oak]

also btw this is pretty big

a lot of items

a lot of non-Rogue items don't deplete the stealth bar

[raven timber]

https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/1472046914881978521 juicy glitch

[lapis oak]

they just halt its generation

[west glen]

Buff every boss like desert scourge, crabulon, slime god, perforator because its too easy compared to vanilla boss

[dull heart]

Known

[urban cloak]

stealth does not check for holdouts atm

[lapis oak]

good

Meteor Fist's stealth strike went through Perforator's worms bodies

instead of explodes on them

[main estuary]

am i supposed to start steamrolling prehm on death

once i beat the eye i locked the fuck in and fried every boss on 1-2 attempts or more

[versed heart]

Personally, most of prehardmode is pretty easy in Calamity mod (especially when compared to late hardmode or post moon lord)

[nimble sable]

Is there any stats on the vunrability and resistant types of dmg to bosses on how much more or less damage they do?

[open garden]

alot of early game feels pretty easy on death tbh i didnt really struggle with any boss until pbg

[urban cloak]

you can check debuff resistances and weakness of enemies in the bestiary

[dull heart]

Only for debuffs

[versed heart]

Then again, I haven't done anything beyond BoC in a long time

[urban cloak]

or if you dont wanna do that, just check the wiki

also yes it only affects dot debuffs

[nimble sable]

I use the wiki for that I meant more like Pokemon how they do 2x damage the 2 in particular

[urban cloak]

nah the system doesn't work like that

[urban cloak]

.

[open garden]

what types would calamity bosses be hmm

[vivid hemlock]

The beast has returned.

[west glen]

Whzn is the calamity boss buff ? The vanilla is way harder

That unfair, you should buff calamity bosses

[open garden]

wdym lol

[nimble sable]

I saw this only using it for dmg buffs if it doesn’t multiply how does it work then I’m curious on it so I can min max it

[earnest jewel]

Get this, I think Yharon would be Fire/Dragon.

[west glen]

Unfair

[open garden]

hot take...

[lapis oak]

WHAT

Meteor Fist's stealth strike doesn't go through Perforator's worms bodies anymore

[urban cloak]

like nearly all of calamity's bosses have plans to be either reworked or overhauled completely so there won't be a standalone "calamity boss update" if thats what you have in mind

[nimble sable]

No flying fire it’s a bird

[lapis oak]

wtf

ok then that's fine then

[earnest jewel]

Nah, he just has Levitate.

[open garden]

dragon of rebirth btw

[urban cloak]

calamity bosses will be updated over time as the mod progress and that will include giving them behavior changes in higher difficulties

[nimble sable]

Oh lol

Dm me then

[urban cloak]

vanilla bosses will also receive their own reworks now that we have more freedom over that

[west glen]

Yea but just a buff for the bosses, because it will take 10 year to rework all bosses

Like stat buffs

And speed

[urban cloak]

not something we wanna do

[open garden]

excited for the skeletron prime rework. i hope he summons the other two mechs

[distant raft]

i hope that idea is permanently erased for everyone

[open garden]

also its not that all calamity bosses are easier than vanilla ones lol, maybe in pre-hardmode?

[west glen]

Why ? The calamity boss should be hard like the vanilla one, the only one hard is the endgame bosses, the others are pretty easy, it would make the game better

[west glen]

Bro they are

[lapis oak]

ok false alarm Meteor Fist works just fine

[dusk bronze]

would make the game what

[lapis oak]

I was unlucky I guess

[open garden]

catastrophic typo

[west glen]

Better

[lapis oak]

next one

[dull heart]

L

[lapis oak]

the Lava Slime remove lava drop config now works FINE

OMG 😭 finally

been waiting that for so long it's finally fixed

[nimble sable]

@urban cloak found what I needed it is 2x on vunrability 🙂

[lapis oak]

majority of Xyk's reworked melee weapons are able to damage critters through Critter Companionship btw

especially those with custom swings

the swings are able to bypass Critter Companionship

[dull heart]

Oop

[dusk bronze]

noticed this with earth

[dull heart]

Do mine do that too

[lapis oak]

Old Lord Claymore, Comet Quasher, Forbidden Oathblade, Hellkite, Exalted Oathblade, Baleful Harvester, Grand Guardian, Stellar Striker, Holy Collider, DD

and more

(Orderbringer line is fine)

[lapis oak]

no

or maybe not

[earnest jewel]

DS: Ground.
Crab: Psychic/Normal.
Hive: Psychic/Dark.
Perf: Fighting/Dark.
SG: Normal (Protean).
Cryo: Ice.
AS: Water/Poison.
BE: Fire/Psychic.
CC: Dark/Fire.
L&A: Water/Psychic.
AA: Steel/Psychic.
PBG: Bug/Steel.
Rav: Dark/Fighting.
AD: Dragon/Psychic.
PG: Fire/Fairy.
DF: Dragon/Electric.
Prov: Fire/Fairy.
SW: Dragon/Flying.
CV: Dark.
Sig: Dark/Psychic.
Pol: Ghost.
OD: Water/Dragon.
DoG: Steel/Dragon.
Yha: Fire/Dragon.
Exo: Steel/Fire.
SWC: Dark/Fire.

[dull heart]

If any did it would be Gilded Proboscis and Mirror Blade

[lapis oak]

next one

does anyone SS's Lab generating so far away from the SS?

look at mine 😭

[west glen]

Bro, cal clone, the ice thing, leviathan, astral bosses, ravager, polterghast, guardian, signus, storm waver, dragon folly, aqua scourge are all easy even in malice, vanilla is overall way harder

[dull heart]

Happens yeah

[lapis oak]

unlucky

[earnest jewel]

Draedon was using the element of suprise.

[lapis oak]

Short Circuit's special can't attack through blocks even though the animation implies it could (and taser string also travels through blocks)

[dull heart]

known yeah

[lapis oak]

Auger's hitbox is so wacky in small space

it can't hit for shit

[urban cloak]

the vanilla bosses are way harder right now cause the previous owner updated them on a whim 2 years ago and those changes don't align with the design philosophy the current team has

applying random stat buffs just to temporarily make calamity bosses a little harder isn't something we'd like to do now that we have to opportunity to make whatever changes we'd like to them (for more context, the previous owner primarily handled all boss behavior and did not let many others contribute themselves)

you are also the only person so far who's asked for something like this in this discord server, this is not a universally-experienced community problem

[spiral tree]

Hiiiii

[open garden]

i wouldnt call cal clone or the astral bosses free imo and ravager got a rework that seems alot harder (ive yet to fight him on-tier tho)

[lapis oak]

this is what I mean btw

with just some blocks on the sides suddenly Auger can't hit anything in front

[distant raft]

what the fuck

[lapis oak]

it was so bad when I tried to use it in Jungle 😭

also this one should be known

Pulse Pistol + Batholith Bangle makes detonate do no damage

[dull heart]

huh

Like the batholith thing?

what on earth

[dusk bronze]

speaking of wacky hitboxes, polaris parrotfish can't damage enemies that are basically inside you

[urban cloak]

huh

[distant raft]

thats more a gun issue in general

[urban cloak]

specifically pulse pistol?

[dull heart]

what black magic did xyk feed that

[lapis oak]

I think so, I haven't tested more after post Skeletron

[west glen]

Im not the only one some days ago some people asked for it too, and yea maybe some people dont care that the calamity boss are way weaker because they dont even notice it but if you play many run on this game you should see the problem

[spark kiln]

i have never encountered this issue

[polar tide]

hi! i have ~850 hours on calamity and i have no idea what you're talking about

[spark kiln]

and i’ve beaten calamity over 20 times

[dusk bronze]

calamity hasn't been trying to be "the difficult mod" for a while now

[lapis oak]

Xyk's Blessing doesn't hide the actual wings if there's an another transformation vanity item below it

[dull heart]

Well, we have received MANY complaints about death being too easy

[spark kiln]

i never noticed vanilla bosses to be harder than calamity ones

[dull heart]

It's super super facetankable rn

Just not specifically cal vs vanilla

[urban cloak]

no yeah im sure, i shouldnt have included that last part

[west glen]

Vanilla boss are overall way harder

[polar tide]

ive noticed that death mode vanilla bosses tend to be more miserable than cal ones but i wouldnt exactly call that a great experience to base our bosses off of

[dull heart]

I do know our dmg numbers in general are

[earnest jewel]

I find the mod easy, but that's mainly because I'm amazing. I've seen what new players gameplay looks like, Calamity is hell for that level.

[dull heart]

Really bad

[lapis oak]

OMG NEW DEV

[dull heart]

Like you can take 20+ hits

[west glen]

Should just give buff to cal bosses, stat buffs and speed

[polar tide]

holy shit is that kiriwhite

[dull heart]

In death

[lapis oak]

ok Desert Scourge I know it's been nerfed but right now it's super easy compared to KS or EoC

[polar tide]

i dont know how many ways we can explain it to you that we do not want to do this

[dusk bronze]

no it's kiriblue

[dull heart]

kiriorange when

[polar tide]

my bad

[west glen]

Crabulon too, perforator too

Slime god too

[terse dew]

Can I revoke peoples blues

[west glen]

Cryogen too

[terse dew]

😈

[open garden]

slime god easier than king slime

[rancid pagoda]

the first calamity boss shouldn't be easy??

[dull heart]

easy compared to KS

that's the issue

[lapis oak]

compared to KS and EoC

[west glen]

Even with pre wall slime king is jarder

[urban cloak]

bountiful curse

[distant raft]

malice dog is kinda hard

[rancid pagoda]

I mean, it genuinely was too hard before

[dull heart]

yeah DS was way overtuned before

[terse dew]

the first calamity boss should be in hardcore mode because if you can't kill it you need to restart and try again

😁

[west glen]

The skeletron is too

Hard

[halcyon seal]

Infernum?

[distant raft]

something something balanced around magiluminescence

[open garden]

[west glen]

Then slime god is chill

[dull heart]

how far have you gotten so far

and are you using cinnamon roll? bc if you are, note that 2.1.2 causes him to disable it

[halcyon seal]

Oh wait

Not addon

Sorry

[distant raft]

my best attempt was i think 32%

[dull heart]

ok not bad

[distant raft]

and nope no cinnamon roll

[dull heart]

yeah

cinnamon roll makes him too easy

[dusk bronze]

modern ds has always been completely brainless for me
the only part with some slight semblance of a threat is the nuisances phase

[dull heart]

so i killed it

[open garden]

storm ring is so cool i love that item

or lightning ring or whatever its called

[dull heart]

bloom stone seeing use woo

[distant raft]

arc flash

[polar tide]

arc flash ring

[open garden]

arc flash ring yeah

[twin mural]

does calamity make musket bullets way faster than what they should be?

[open garden]

like the hades 2 zeus boon

[lapis oak]

this should be fixed btw I don't think having to use Invisible dye just to hide the actual wings is uh

normal

[distant raft]

cal does increase the velocity of a lot of projectiles

[dull heart]

it does this to all bullets

[twin mural]

apparently it does for musket bullets but not for silver ones

[dull heart]

hmm

odd

[earnest jewel]

That's more bullet, per bullet.

[distant raft]

says it does

but maybe that was when they were the same projectile

[lapis oak]

Shield of the High Ruler tooltip missing "," between Bleeding and Poisoned

[dusk bronze]

as we're listing bugs, there's a layering issue with saros possession (and presumably its predecessors)
the aura appears in front of the player when sitting in a chair

[distant raft]

ok yep that was in 1.5.1

[dull heart]

lol?

dunno if i can really fix that one well

[dusk bronze]

become the sun

[halcyon seal]

I am literally shaking and crying right now

[frail frost]

Whats the 2 best attunements for biome blade?

[halcyon seal]

Try it and see

[dull heart]

my favorite debuff, Bleeding Poisoned

[polar tide]

FUCK THIS SHITTY MOD

[lapis oak]

this is what it looks on OSC there's proper ","

[spark kiln]

ideally there is no best one

[dusk bronze]

that's called sepsis i think

[dull heart]

this needs to be updated with icons hmm

[lapis oak]

IS THE CAMPER FINALLY USEABLE NOW????

holy buff

[dull heart]

it's meta for abyss light

[urban cloak]

does anybody use the camper in 2026

[dull heart]

when still it makes your abyss glow 5x the size

[polar tide]

is it the plan that all items that mention a debuff in their tooltip will include the icon

[distant raft]

yeah this is prolly a 'forgot to buff the projectile itself when it was made unique' moment

[dull heart]

generally yes

[lapis oak]

I encoutered this in my playthrough idk how to replicate it

Hunter Drone sometimes disappear even when the buff icon is still on?

[polar tide]

i could literally just go through and list the ones that are lacking the icon. because i noticed many during brainstorm beta

[dull heart]

all minions do this randomly and idk

[polar tide]

if that wold be at all helpful

[lapis oak]

holy shit

nevermind then

[dull heart]

it's mostly a case of just going through and editing them taking time

[open garden]

minions and minion-like things disappear randomly with boss checklist on

[dull heart]

someone has to do it

[twin mural]

i was nerfing myself

without knowing

[lapis oak]

ye many items need explaination for debuffs

[dull heart]

yeah we don't know why but restarting tmod fixes it usually

[polar tide]

ah okey

as long as they're all documented

[dull heart]

i think we did all the accessories but ig high ruler and OSC missed

[open garden]

same issue with omega blue tentacles im pretty sure you can fix it by getting boss checklist lite instead of teh full mod

[lapis oak]

doze u never told me that Blazing Star is Post-Mech Boss 1 + wrong rarity (Mythril Anvil)

sob

[dull heart]

i never changed it's obtainment

[twin mural]

so should i post it in #1052323733961977947 ?

[dull heart]

i just reworked it

[dull heart]

yes

[lapis oak]

u don't even correct it for me

😔

[dull heart]

i didnt notice

[normal galleon]

does anyone know why wormhole potions arent working for me and my friend?

we are on the same team

with the infernum multiplayer patch remastered

[dusk bronze]

that mod does absolutely nothing

[lapis oak]

doze's Bobbers make bait don't get consumed??? (infinite bait hack)

[dull heart]

still dunno why

but yeah apparently

[frail frost]

i have i cant tell

[lapis oak]

is it normal that Crystal Assassin's dash overrides ram dash and Scarf dash effect

[frail frost]

and its incredibly annoying to have to run from one side of the world to the other back and forth to keep switching and checking

[twin mural]

is the client.log thing still necessary

[lapis oak]

Crag lava no longer hurt even with Obsidian Skin this is huge news

custom swing melee weapons like Majestic Guard, Hellkite,... are really bad at removing cobweb (tiny interacting range with ambient stuff in general compared to the damaging and visual hitbox)

[halcyon seal]

Then what do you have the most fun using

[frail frost]

i just wanna know whats best man XD

[lapis oak]

Abaddon is bugged, crit explosion only happens 1 time after you equip it and never again (Void of Extinction works fine)

[frail frost]

i have fun min maxing and pushing things to the best of ability so using the best ones if what is fun for me so thats why im asking

[halcyon seal]

We don’t know what the best ones are

[lapis oak]

@dull heart since u worked on this?

[dull heart]

fixed for 2.1.2

[halcyon seal]

The update has been out for a week, we can’t tell you what the best ones are because we don’t know either

[lapis oak]

also Bakidon charge resets on leave and rejoin world, but if the internal (the actual initial charge idk the first time you use the thing before doing leaving and rejoining thing) is used up the next rejoin it'll put the time on 12PM

[halcyon seal]

All you can do is test and see what YOU think the best ones are

[open garden]

does the de-bloating of boss numbers make tier skipping easier?

[lapis oak]

Astral Tundra is not eligible for Snow Pylon

it said "not in the correct biome"

[dull heart]

(for the record, most of these will probably get missed just dropped in #calamity-update-talk )

[dull heart]

yes

armors always take priority for dashes

[lapis oak]

I see

[distant raft]

???????????

how does that happen

[lapis oak]

Slagfire Douser charges Transformer with every projectiles

this is funny

[distant raft]

transformer build

[dusk bronze]

oh my god

[lapis oak]

(Silt type blocks falling also feed Transformer with every blocks btw)

[distant raft]

glad to see another mod with graze forgot they existed

[granite sapphire]

Graze in terraria is beautiful

Why didn't I use transformer sob

[versed heart]

Transformer is cool

[granite sapphire]

mage/rogue/ranger when transformer

and no hitters

[tropic jolt]

weaponized silt

[lapis oak]

doze Chaos Stone should disables the dropped mana pickups

[dull heart]

loool

[lapis oak]

omg fighting Plantera and I kept eating up shit ton of mana by touching the ground and losing the mana burn

it's so bad 😭

[granite sapphire]

Its 2.1.1 or smth they do need balancing time

[atomic bay]

Old Lord Claymore is preboss right?

[lapis oak]

it should disables mana pickups like Ion Blaster line

[distant raft]

yeah

[granite sapphire]

Yes

[lapis oak]

yes

[atomic bay]

mk just making sure

[pulsar cobalt]

does this mean nasty cholla can also activate it

[granite sapphire]

Intended use is post evil tho

[distant raft]

though its rarer before evil 1

[lapis oak]

have fun find that tho the drop chance is like super rare before Evils 1

[distant raft]

like 4% pre, 25% post

[lapis oak]

ye

[atomic bay]

i see

[distant raft]

you can get it but are you willing to grind that much

[pulsar cobalt]

rotten eggs too

[granite sapphire]

battle cry mfs:

[pulsar cobalt]

maybe sandgun

actually prob not sandgun

[granite sapphire]

The sand after hitting though might

[lapis oak]

no not any of those

Slagfire is just that weird I think

Bloom Stone doesn't create Flower with WACRO hook

[granite sapphire]

when is slagfire even intended to use

post evil?

[lapis oak]

preboss

[granite sapphire]

oh

then why is claymore and Oathsword post evil lol

[lapis oak]

what?

[granite sapphire]

But the thing only found in the crag is intended pre boss

[granite sapphire]

They're intended post evil

[lapis oak]

ye I know

that's why the put it in place of Oathsword

or at least that's what I think

[dull heart]

slagfire isn't really intended as a main weapon

so

but if it was, post evils like everyhting else hell

[lapis oak]

huh

ok nevermind then

[fathom girder]

why was slagfire added

what does it do

[lapis oak]

I just used it to kill Travelling Merchant ngl

[fathom girder]

like

what's the point of it

[granite sapphire]

Sun spirit is op omg

I can't wait for vengeful sun

[fathom girder]

does it really have no purpose

is it just lava gun for the sake of lava gun

does it like

fulfill a classless weapon slot in progression

[granite sapphire]

It doesn't but it should

[lapis oak]

you can reach the hook point with WACRO so I think it should be able to create flower too with Bloom Stone

[fathom girder]

You can but liiiike

nobody reasonable is using wacro in post plantera

movement tech be damned you don't need to go 127 mph vs ravager

[granite sapphire]

It feels like giga chart only shows reworks

[lapis oak]

who cares?

[granite sapphire]

Unless there was like only 2 new weapons

[fathom girder]

Like the tech would remain unused

[lapis oak]

L argument this thing is not working like it's supposed to

useless talk

[fathom girder]

I mean I know some insane people will make use of it

but like

who

WHO

for what purpose

wacro's best purpose is to act as a horseshoe replacement in earlygame

[lapis oak]

Hellkite, Mantis Claws don't pause the mana regen while having Chaos Stone (mana keeps on regenerating after switching off mage weapons)

[dusk bronze]

fun

[tropic jolt]

help

im dying

[lapis oak]

I assume there're more things that do this too

[fathom girder]

the swing is cool but you need to use so SO many resources to actually fully make use of wacro

AND I KNOW

15000 rails just to make it better than wings SOMETIMES

[lapis oak]

@dull heart

[fathom girder]

even as util alongside wings who needs to swing instead of "I need momentum in THAT direction RIGHT NOW" when they have wings

[hidden belfry]

Dring warm water cyver, should restart your system

[fathom girder]

I'm not swinging against plantera

THE circle boss

[tropic jolt]

okay I will try

[fathom girder]

or like calclone

[dull heart]

kill guide to spawn wof

[dull heart]

guh

[fathom girder]

..I see

[dull heart]

ok

easy fix

[lapis oak]

is it normal that extremly few enemies now spawn in the layer 1 of Abyss? or layer 2 rather the one that have Ancient Chests

like I had Zerg and Battle on

[fathom girder]

okay wacro pack rant over

also I think they said that was a bug earlier

[dull heart]

considering there's no good way to get the flower i think this is fine anyway

but probably fixable

[lapis oak]

Greentide rework was cool but it needs a custom swing man 😭

[dull heart]

yeah uh somehow it broke

[lapis oak]

fucking usestyle 1

[dull heart]

real bad

[dull heart]

have you tried it with hook of dissonance

[lapis oak]

holy

[fathom girder]

Not yet

but like I said earlier

I don't need to go 127mph against like. anything

[lapis oak]

Abyssal Diving Gear still has the "removes bleed effect caused by the Abyss" in the tooltip despite Abyss no longer applies bleed (mentioned in wiki history)

[dull heart]

yeah

[fathom needle]

why are gnashers so difficult to find? they used to be pretty common. any tips?
i'm pre-BoC, and i'm trying to get the contaminated bile

[dull heart]

that's why hook of dissonance is more useful of them

[fathom girder]

oh word?

lemme... take a look at that

[dull heart]

teleport long distance is peak

[dull heart]

it also resets flght and jumps

[fathom girder]

so do normal grapples though

[dull heart]

those force pull me

instead of leaving me where i am

[fathom girder]

Also wacro has trouble maintaining momentum sometimes

[dull heart]

static hook doesn't pull me but it is slow to fly out

[fathom girder]

Sometimes when going down you'll stop going down when you cancel or anything

[lapis oak]

this is not 2.1 problems btw but Abyss layer 3 theme "hydrothermophobia" is low compared to other tracks

like at a pretty noticeable lower volume

on the other side Exalted Oathblade's swing sound is really really loud 😭 could properly turn it down a little bit

[dull heart]

it also inflicts searing lava, which scales 2x as much with Heat boosters

[fathom girder]

searing lava..?

[dull heart]

yeah

the crags lava debuff

[fathom girder]

oh shit

okay that's good

[dull heart]

20 dps, 2x heat scaling

[fathom girder]

Also uhhh

question about wacro

does the reel in actually benefit from the reel in stat of a normal grapple

because it really doesn't seem like it does

[dull heart]

it does not

bc i didn't know how to access that

[fathom girder]

Oh I see

[dull heart]

it's only the speed/range that benefits based on the speed of the hook

i could probably do it better now but

idrc it's fine

[fathom girder]

The current reel speed is a little. limiting imo if planned to be used on reaction

[dull heart]

Static Hook increases reel speed, that's its gimmick

squirrel - hook trees
dissonance - teleport
static - reel faster
antigrav - antigrav

[spark kiln]

i feel like swinging with the new acrobatics pack gives you less momentum

[dull heart]

it does not

it actually gives more than it did before

[spark kiln]

you’ll never convince me of that sorry

[fathom girder]

You can go really fast with it lul

[dull heart]

specifically, it gives more vertical momentum when jumping

[fathom girder]

On a good whip I hit 150mph

[spark kiln]

i’ve used acrobatics pack extensively

[dull heart]

feel free to go read the github history on it

i only touched the momentum of jumping vertically

bc it used to hard cap that

it was so bad

now it actually appears to conserve it

[lapis oak]

hi doze

[dusk bronze]

sometimes it just kills your horizontal momentum when you try to swing from the ceiling fast

but it's really inconsistent

[lapis oak]

my High Ruler bonk turned Ram Dash

[spark kiln]

i don’t know about that but the hook now sometimes dismounts instead of swinging when you jump quickly after hooking

generally feels worse to use than before to me

[dull heart]

how

[lapis oak]

idk it turned into a Ram Dash midfight while I was fighting PBG

😭

[fathom girder]

it got tired of being shield of cthulhu 2

decided to start really doing some work

[dull heart]

qwild

[lapis oak]

I recorded it I can post it on Youtube if you wanna see

[dull heart]

wild

sure

is it actually ram

or is it a basic dash

[lapis oak]

no idea

[fathom girder]

test it vs enemies

if you take damage, it's not a ram

[lapis oak]

yes I think

[barren nacelle]

Hey how does this thing I'm finishing up look

[lapis oak]

because later on I could ram PBG and took no damage

[barren nacelle]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/User:Sup.CrispyWasTaken/Sandbox2

[dull heart]

odd

very odd

[dull heart]

what is this for

[fathom girder]

That paired with it not benefitting with adrenaline or rage

lul

such a strange accessory, that thing

OH I got a theory question for you all

is an accessory damage only run possible

I tried it a couple days ago but got bored

[barren nacelle]

Documentation of when you can get most weapons / acc / potions / other stuff

[dull heart]

i see

[barren nacelle]

Like a turbo class setup page

[fathom girder]

y'think if I started with like. granite relic and old fashioned I could do somethin' like that?

[dull heart]

that's very cool

[dull heart]

yes

[barren nacelle]

Thanks :3

[dull heart]

not interesting but doable

[barren nacelle]

The ever reliable unstable granite core

[dusk bronze]

shadowspec should be moved to its own section called postgame

[fathom girder]

Not interesting gives me pain

[lapis oak]

uploading it's like 1.5 GB

[barren nacelle]

That's kinda what I was thinking when I put in the boss rush monolith under scal

[dull heart]

i think adding notable co-required bosses, such as a cryogen icon for post-2-mech cryo stuff would be wise

and use those instead of (If The Twins have been defeated)

(icons, with tooltips if needed, would be more readable)

[barren nacelle]

Fuckass disparity between filenames

[dull heart]

trueing

[barren nacelle]

Map Icon vs map

[dull heart]

oh i may actually

have a tmeplate

that will help

@barren nacelle may want to consider the progression template i use here https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/User:Doze/Summoner_Guide

well

maybe not

[fathom girder]

Welp. I'll start with this and we'll see how long I last before I lose my patience

[dull heart]

it doesn't excactly fit your use cases

[fathom girder]

brainstorm should in theory make this a little interesting

[wide wadi]

Beat the new calamtas clone

Ez clap

[barren nacelle]

I could probably repurpose some of the stuff for sure

[dull heart]

mine was specifically designed for sorting within a sortable table

by progression

[lapis oak]

https://youtu.be/cwZeeLcUzbI

[rough quartz]

Im playing in multiplayer

does anyone else's minions despawn?

[dull heart]

but mine also handles the icons and such by tiself

[dusk bronze]

known issue

[rough quartz]

what is the fix

[dusk bronze]

waiting until it's patched

[rough quartz]

happens every second

[lapis oak]

restart the game

[dull heart]

try restarting tmod/the server maybe

that's the only known fix

[hasty tangle]

2.1.2: minion surgery

[lapis oak]

holy shit it actually just turned into a ram dash out of nowhere 😭

I wasn't hallucinating

[rough vine]

deep diver splagslitter contender for best accessory oty

[tropic jolt]

we are diving deeply to split the slag

[lethal kraken]

cool bat

[lean relic]

it fears me that in Multiplayer, most reworked weapons' visuals and animations that other player uses are broken

[lapis oak]

the fate of Ark's line

it has returned and haunts others

doze have you watched it yet

[dull heart]

no I'm busy

will investigate later

[lapis oak]

👍

[dull heart]

so kiri what were your thoughts on scal arena

[lapis oak]

it's peak....

I recorded that one too, with the shittiest mic ever

[dull heart]

lol peak

[lapis oak]

and also DoG

[dull heart]

As soon as I had the idea for it to match the Dokuro music video

I knew I had to do it

most players probably just thought "oh it's blue now" but those who know...

[tropic jolt]

we are those who know

[lapis oak]

alright

[tropic jolt]

but ermm ermmm infernum already did this!!!!

[lapis oak]

moving on the list

[barren nacelle]

How do you get the bottled bats?

[dull heart]

infernum doesn't exist

[tropic jolt]

good ending.

[lapis oak]

I tried to debuff build Cultist 😭

[dull heart]

uhh yeah

[lapis oak]

why is this mf immune to all

[barren nacelle]

That’s a guy why is he immune to everything

[dull heart]

The only debuff you'll find that works on him is Glaive and Blazing Star and Mana Burn

[lapis oak]

they're drops

[radiant sparrow]

Dude pre boss death mode slimes are scary

[dull heart]

And the shellfish

[lapis oak]

from you already know who

Entropic Claymore's projectiles still not fire mid swing ;(

[barren nacelle]

This motherfucker is 100% weak to being irradiated idk what you’re talking about

[lapis oak]

this is sad

[barren nacelle]

Idc if it doesn’t apply in game that’s just a guy

[dull heart]

complain to xyk about it

smh

did you try the Stratus set

[lapis oak]

yeahh

not all tho at that stage there're so many stuff to use

I think I used half of it?

[dull heart]

Yeah there's a lot

[lapis oak]

already said it here twice 😭

[barren nacelle]

Starburst is a really fun mechanic

[dull heart]

I think the silliest stratus synergy is gladius and vega

[barren nacelle]

Same with the Blood Charges

[dull heart]

Gladius stars from ripping out are effected by Vega starburst pull

[dull heart]

Blood charges?

I have genuinely no idea what item has blood charges

[barren nacelle]

bloodflare stuff

[dull heart]

oh the blood orbs

ok

Yeah I originally made those for something that's not in 2.1

[barren nacelle]

blood orbs yes yes

Oh?

[dull heart]

and it was too interesting to leave only where it was

So I did bloodflare items

[lapis oak]

hey

[barren nacelle]

Is it an sso thing or some weird extra thing

[lapis oak]

Hydrothermic mage armor + Apoctosis Array right click charge attack is insane btw

[dull heart]

sort of SSO sort of just unfinished

[lapis oak]

it heals 100 health

[barren nacelle]

Could it be found in the patreon server is it worth spending the time digging for it

[lapis oak]

insane life steal

[fathom girder]

Scal arena is aesthetically pleasing while also making the fight just a tad more dynamic

[dull heart]

I don't think so

I never showed it off

[lean relic]

the SSO background hiding behind underground background

[barren nacelle]

Waiting for my potstickers to finish airfrying #feelinglikeafatass

[fathom girder]

Personally I think you could be more evil with it

[dull heart]

People know of it vaguely

But not what it does

[barren nacelle]

Hmmmmm

Whip

[fathom girder]

like really you could make the arena a rectangle for when the brothers do their big flurries because evil

[verbal bough]

Am I losing my marbles or did the update remove the charging stations?

[fathom girder]

look a little harder

[dull heart]

it did not

[fathom girder]

they're there

[barren nacelle]

minimized their usage

[dull heart]

I did that, it becomes less tall

just not super extreme

[lapis oak]

100 health

[fathom girder]

I think it could be super extreme

[dull heart]

Less tall and wider

[fathom girder]

it'd be funny

[lapis oak]

and you can do this charge attack so fast too with minimum max mana from Disgusting Meat

[dull heart]

have you fought clone on gfb

her arena is funny

[fast wren]

Hello chat help is inactive so can I seek help here on desert scourge summoning

[dull heart]

I think scal arena does it too

[barren nacelle]

Wait okay is it the Post-Polter Chain Whips

[dull heart]

The size shrinks with her hp

[lapis oak]

since the damage of charge attack doesn't scale with max mana

[dull heart]

No

[fathom girder]

I haven't done a gfb run yet but oh my god

that's evil lmao

[barren nacelle]

fuck back to speculation

[lapis oak]

but how much of the mana bar is recovered

which btw

[granite sapphire]

I love how the beehive isn't under the rich mahogany tree

On my summoner run

[lapis oak]

Ion Blaster line's right click charge should scale with max mana for more damage tbh

[lean relic]

wait future doc editor found
crispy can you add those #calamity-update-talk message

[dull heart]

Like percentage??

Uh oh

[barren nacelle]

It isn't anymore

[lapis oak]

yee

[barren nacelle]

They moved it

[granite sapphire]

rigged

[lapis oak]

so you can use Disgusting Meat to have minimum max mana for more rapid right click

[dull heart]

yikes

[lapis oak]

and heal 100 each with Hydrothermic Mage armor

[dull heart]

Xykkk

[lapis oak]

😭

like I genuinely ate so many hits from Deus and just heal them off with the right click attack

doesn't have to use potions much

[dull heart]

I mean

[dull heart]

You still have lifesteal cool down

[lapis oak]

ye but the lifesteal cooldown recovers so fast

[dull heart]

At least this doesn't encourage players to not use Mana upgrades entirely (pre disgusting meat)

[lapis oak]

you just need it to be above 0 and the charge will heal 100

which instantly put it -100 lol that's funny

[dull heart]

Yeah

[granite sapphire]

2 death mode queen bees (again)

But I'm not melee this time

Nvm 3 now

I got them to 50% at least

[lapis oak]

since it doesn't scale with how much mana I have, the mana debt from Chaos Stone also doesn't contribute too

[verbal bough]

Oh wait I AM losing my marbles

[barren nacelle]

Anything else for me Seu

[lapis oak]

alright moving on

[verbal bough]

I used the only one I had on the codebreaker

[dull heart]

Does negative Mana mean you can get 200% dmg on it

[lapis oak]

nope

[dull heart]

ok

[barren nacelle]

psure it's capped at 90%

[lapis oak]

it's just a waste of time of charging up right click

[dull heart]

ok

[lapis oak]

sometimes Unstable Caster Gauntlet's Sigils are off placements from the Ring Slot

[radiant sparrow]

How do you reliably get the better food items?

[lapis oak]

like the element icons are sometimes appear slightly off-placements

do I say it correctly?

English

I mean like sometimes they don't fit perfectly in the slots

[hoary edge]

be me
journey mode
research 2 worm cans
get ridiculous amount of them
open the can until I get 3 gold worms
research gold worms
craft cooking pot
make golden delight
profit

[lapis oak]

btw when I turn on stutter fix in the config, I can't unsummon minions after playing for a bit

[hoary edge]

also for some reason when I equip honey dew, the honey buff icon and exquisitely stuffed buff icon kinda just tweaks out
it's like, they're overriding each other

[lapis oak]

right clicking the icon and it would just instantly appear again

[lapis oak]

yeah sometimes it does that

[dull heart]

ITS RELATED TO STUTTER FIX?

[lapis oak]

not exclusively to those 2

[lapis oak]

yeee I think so because when I disabled stutter fix it's gone instantly

can unsummon like normal now

is Galactus Blade's holdout sprite different from the item sprite?

because why is it so small 😭

[hoary edge]

I gotta experiment with building stuff
especially for starter base in early game

[fast wren]

Hey guys it’s me again here to give you some whimsical advice

The advice is to love yourself

[lean relic]

nope

[fast wren]

It’s good for you!

[lapis oak]

Holy Collider has this weird blade switching side at the end of an uncharged slash visual

it looks odd

[fast wren]

I hope you guys have amazing days! I know I did. I beat the goblin army!

[lean relic]

only that

[lapis oak]

also it's kinda odd for Cosmolight to not continue to hold (I mean the character not continue to hold the item) but still need to actually hold (the mouse action)

btw Ravager is still a shitshow he despawns from like 1 screen too far away 😭

the extra yoyo that spawns from Yoyo bag's don't make 2nd Saw for Lacerator is that intentional

like even with the Yoyo bag equipped I still only has 1 saw

[vestal osprey]

I am fine with the recipe removals... but theres one exception that does hurt a bit, the feral claws.

Unlike the PDA and Ankh charm components which only makes accessories that are just nice to have. The feral claws are crucial component to 90% of melee builds.

[lapis oak]

Purge Guzzler costs so little mana btw I could use that thing for such a long time without having to recharge my mana

Town NPCs don't respawn faster with Cosmolight

[barren nacelle]

The player does not hold the Void Edge

It just kinda hovers in their hand

[royal trellis]

what's the ui you use?

[silent tiger]

the rarity to that thing that when you kill spawns perforator has changed?

[royal trellis]

ty

[lapis oak]

OK this one is important

it's for Galaxia my favorite sword

[fathom girder]

Is there a list of the classless damage accessories or do I just gotta browse the wiki

[lapis oak]

the Polaris' Gaze teleport Star is drawn behind the cosmic dust

it looks, bad and I think unintentional

[native arch]

did they nerf summoner yet

[lapis oak]

this is before

and after

it looks uh, worse but I think that's unintended

[arctic cliff]

yeah that reeks of bug

[lapis oak]

also the blazing tornado doesn't look good at all 😭

why is it a thing for Galaxia it's so out of place

[arctic cliff]

wait what

this is

galaxia?

huh?

[lapis oak]

Galaxia got changed

[arctic cliff]

i would've assumed that was a provi or even yharon-related item

[lapis oak]

idk

I just don't think it fits Galaxia's theme

[fathom girder]

Oh doze

[lethal kraken]

defeated the new brain of cthulhu and yea cool boss

[acoustic talon]

People say the ankh shield sucks but i feel like a bitch getting debuffed with slow or cursed in endgame armor lol

[fathom girder]

did the last little patch enable dodge buffs working on default dash?

like uh

sand cloak

[lapis oak]

ok this is also a kinda important one

why the fuck does Polter clone has contact damage when repositioning for the cross charges