calamity-update-talk

[gloomy grove]

did he ever post about it i only remember tobias talking about polter

[radiant sparrow]

Can my government get into genetic engineering so I can have my own little dragonfolly

[spiral tree]

I can't wait for a yharon oneee he needs one really badly

[gloomy grove]

though that was like 2 years ago

which is insane to think about

[dusk bronze]

have you seen the new sprite

[misty wren]

disliking triangle and tobias's design is fine but it does just require a full overhaul

[dusk bronze]

if not you should

[radiant sparrow]

Where does one go to see that?

[spiral tree]

Naurrr i didnt

[dusk bronze]

pinned doc

[spiral tree]

Can't open doc atm I'm on phone but if I remember tmrw I can checkkk

[spiral tree]

It's really uncomfy for Mii to read docs on phone heh

[pseudo vector]

chances are the way calamity’s bosses look will be very different in the future as we do their final reworks

[gloomy grove]

yeah holy shit this is so old

[regal vessel]

i like these redesigns more 🍭

[pseudo vector]

basically the entirety of calamity’s boss roster is outdated by multiple years

[burnt basin]

exciting to see bruh, what about vanilla? will all be reworked just like boc?

[dusk bronze]

that first one is blue skeletron

[pseudo vector]

yes

[hushed mountain]

okay but that looks insanely cool tho-

[pseudo vector]

but they’re not a priority

[spiral tree]

Is blue plantera to blue skeletron an upgrade

[young notch]

I would imagine polterghast to look like a mishmash of thousands of tortured souls

[urban star]

Polts a goated boss

[regal vessel]

bluds sucking the fun out of my life

[burnt basin]

was that a reply to me or

[regal vessel]

i cant unsee it

[gloomy grove]

its bad design man

[pseudo vector]

yes

[young notch]

Like, a deformed being made of ectoplasm

[gloomy grove]

sure it looks cool, but its just a really boring design that already exists twice in the game(giant skull with hands)

[pseudo vector]

rev+ vanilla bosses are something we’ll do on the side alongside calamity boss reworks but they won’t be a focus

[burnt basin]

that's gonna be fun as

[boreal quarry]

I don’t really rock with this color palette change

[misty wren]

beautiful palettes imo

[tribal isle]

Just make polterghast blue dog

[pseudo vector]

no

[boreal quarry]

I like nature look of the weapons

[burnt basin]

will all (or some/most) weapons get their changes too? to meet the current modern standards. a lot of the reworks ive seen are really nice

[burnt basin]

i agree

[young notch]

I still don’t get wanting to change the vanilla bosses

“Oh cuz the fights suck-” as in the fights from vanilla? Cuz Revengeance hardly changes the core of their fights, they just make things a little more interesting

[dusk bronze]

@radiant sparrow @spiral tree yharhar

[spiral tree]

WOAH THATS SO COOL

[pseudo vector]

yes, we’ll address them over time

[spiral tree]

Holy I need it

[burnt basin]

🔥

[pseudo vector]

we want to make revengeance mode more distinct from vanilla

[lean relic]

guess repost time lol

[boreal quarry]

this sprite is so fucking clean better than i expected

[tribal isle]

I meannnn ig it’s decent but I prefer the old palette

[misty wren]

yeah thats mostly why vanilla bosses are wanting reworks, rev+ doesnt do enough

[pseudo vector]

i also want to make death mode more distinct from revengeance

[spiral tree]

It's wonderful

[gloomy grove]

thats nice to hear

[safe zephyr]

Bracelets make a lot more sense than the shackles at the very least

[young notch]

On the contrary, I like what Revengeance currently does to vanilla bosses

[tribal isle]

Wouldn’t it be cool if malice was a fully fledged difficulty

[boreal quarry]

Is there any way y’all can add the regeneration of yharon back just make his health bar a little shorter

[dusk bronze]

no

[pseudo vector]

no

[gloomy grove]

❌

[misty wren]

currently rev+ feels more like slightly remixed vanilla in terms of fight design and not the massive overhaul its been advertised as

[clear dirge]

finally hes a monster hunter monster now instead of a chicken nugget

[dusk bronze]

this is planned afaik

[gloomy grove]

planned yeah

[pseudo vector]

its a joke difficulty that is not meant to be taken seriously

(malice)

[radiant sparrow]

I had a quick look at the new sprites in the doc, you guys are fucking cooking

[gloomy grove]

phoenix motif but no phoenix 😔

[pseudo vector]

its way more work than its worth

[grave rock]

reworked brain completely cooks every rev+ vanilla (and most cal) boss(es)

[dusk bronze]

[radiant sparrow]

PLEASE WAITER MORE MICHELIN STAR MEALS PLEASE

[pseudo vector]

big e cooked

[boreal quarry]

I forgot to read on top

[radiant sparrow]

Like that's FUCKING baller

[clear dirge]

distant future

[young notch]

I like vanilla boss design a lot. I like how Revengeance doesn’t mess with them much, but still add a few changes that are still in tune with their fights.

[tribal isle]

Wait how is regeneration gonna return if it takes 10 years for him to rebirth in lore

[spiral tree]

Yharon looks like a great basket ball player on that image

[dusk bronze]

hype moments and aura

[misty wren]

well he doesnt die right away

[tribal isle]

Ig that suffices it

[burnt basin]

maybe have an option to fight vanilla bosses when they start making more changes?

[boreal quarry]

I’m sad Dog not getting his sprite because of its size it was so good

[grave rock]

i kinda fw king slime gems coming out and attacking u, i hope the eventual rework keeps that eheh

[burnt basin]

cause i sure want the redesigns n such

[gloomy grove]

thats called not choosing the calamity difficulties yeah

[grave rock]

thats called turning off rev+

[radiant sparrow]

Also didn't yharon have a part 1 and part 2 previously?

[young notch]

^

[regal vessel]

i dont like it

[young notch]

My opinion ultimately doesn’t matter

[misty wren]

yharon still has 2 phases

[gloomy grove]

🥀

[grave rock]

name ur fav cal boss

[gloomy grove]

you will definitely not like calamity going forward then

[regal vessel]

well i do but theres like a lot of stuff going on

[burnt basin]

well yeah i guess, but i was mainly thinking in terms of difficulty staying the same. but eh ignore that.

[boreal quarry]

Is the distortion planned to be added in the future

[misty wren]

if counting phases in terms of patterns he actually has like 9 different ones or something like that

[spiral tree]

I like reading everybody opinions even if I don't answer them heh

[radiant sparrow]

No? Before hand you would have to fight him pre and post eclipse

[spiral tree]

[misty wren]

yes, most likely with dog rework

[pseudo vector]

if you prefer the vanilla experience? play vanilla difficulties.
if you want the full calamity experience? play on rev+

[radiant sparrow]

Dog is fine?

[burnt basin]

imagine dm dokuro magically comes back to the dev team

[grave rock]

i kinda wish eye did more in rev+

[pseudo vector]

he won’t

[radiant sparrow]

The fight isn't like difficult but it's a very cool fight

[pseudo vector]

dokuro will not be coming back

[gloomy grove]

can we move on

[misty wren]

the only difference there was that post eclipse allowed him to enter phase 2

[burnt basin]

lol im pretty behind on the details, b ut yeah sure.

[spiral tree]

Bro grieved longer than

[grave rock]

i dont even remember what eow rev+ changes r 💀

[tribal isle]

So did they remove having to refight bum ahh events post dog

[dusk bronze]

it's been 6 years

[spiral tree]

What was eow

[dusk bronze]

unfortunately no

[grave rock]

eater of worlds

[spiral tree]

THAT MUCH ALR? wowie

[pseudo vector]

not yet, we will at some point

[boreal quarry]

Y’all think exploration is underrated in calamity

[grave rock]

eater is kind of a bum rn especially compared to its cooler sibling

[misty wren]

he still has those two phases and they're still extremely similar to how they were before the refight got killed

[burnt basin]

yeah i just didnt know by then cause I played calamity without being in the discord

[safe zephyr]

The drops from the different post DoG events are so disproportionate it's giving me an aneurysm

[spiral tree]

I stopped enjoying eow as soon as the upd released lmao

[safe zephyr]

You gotta fight one pumpkin moon and like 5 eclipses

[grave rock]

cal exploration needs a lot of work i feel, but judging by stuff like the abyss i actually think its goin in the right place

[misty wren]

curse of eclipse not having waves

[burnt basin]

enjoying the process and not rushingthings, yeah for sure

[rough vine]

will there be more patches following 2.1?

[spiral tree]

I mostly just change the enemy spawn rate so I don't have to play the event more than once

[safe zephyr]

Legit nothing gives substantial amounts of the material aside from mothron that appears like 5 times an eclipse

[young notch]

I get wanting to make the vanilla fights even more unique, to really set Revengeance apart from Expert. That’s totally fine.

I have no problem if those fights end up being awesome; I’m just worried about the possibility of them having almost nothing in common with their original identities. It’s a criticism I have with Infernum.

[boreal quarry]

I wish the brimstone crag had a background photo and have more structures in it like a destroyed palace or something

[young notch]

Wait

[regal vessel]

PHM: Slime God/EoW (honestly not really a huge fan of any of the phm bosses)
HM: Twins/Duke Fishron
Post ML: DoG (Exo Mechs were my fav pre-brainstorm tho)

[misty wren]

eclipses have so disproportionately less of their post dog drop because the other events all shit out minibosses like its nobody's business at wave 15 which insanely boosts the amount of their drop

[young notch]

Typed that wrong there we go

[boreal quarry]

The sunken sea will become a whole ecosystem

[grave rock]

having an intermediary thing between yharon phases is honestly a rly cool concept

[regal vessel]

This wasnt really a proper answer but theres so many bosses in Calamity I kinda had to do it

[safe zephyr]

Frost Moon is only slightly worse for me drop wise cause the ice queen is a significantly harder miniboss than pumpking

[misty wren]

its a cool concept but it was a balancing nightmare and you still had to fight phase 1 again after redoing eclipse

[grave rock]

yeah thats fair

[young notch]

Like, I haven’t seen much of the new BoC fight but it seems cool. It’s a unique and more challenging fight but it still stays in tune with BoC’s gimmicks. It uses the creepers in a cool way.

[regal vessel]

yea thats kinda why im concerned with this idea about entirely changing the bosses

[spiral tree]

U should really give the fight a try it's really amazing

[young notch]

I’m WORKING ON IT >:(

[gloomy grove]

work faster

[spiral tree]

Work on it harder dummy

[regal vessel]

btw whats the best melee weapon for cultist

[misty wren]

yharons drops... all had to be balanced on yharon... because iirc you still got the treasure bag drop from phase 1...

[boreal quarry]

What are y’all’s opinions on the qol removal

[dusk bronze]

probably flairon

[gloomy grove]

lovely changes

[safe zephyr]

I wanted to check it on my first death mode run but I am bound to always pick a random world evil, so of course I got corruption

[dusk bronze]

favorable

[gloomy grove]

zenith throne

[grave rock]

inconsequencial

[young notch]

Good thing you didn’t ask on a weekend

[regal vessel]

thought so but duke was kicking my ass since i didnt want to build an arena and now I have no more truffle worms

[grave rock]

mfs will finish 2+ playthroughs while im still pre king slime 😭

[regal vessel]

so duke is out of mind

[dusk bronze]

buy from amidias

[burnt basin]

the generic calamity exo mechs or the calamity addon wrath of the machines version?

[gloomy grove]

you should consider using the zenith throne

[burnt basin]

my ass cause i like building

[grave rock]

REAL

[spiral tree]

What ya doing pre king slime 💔

[regal vessel]

Vanilla Calamity

[boreal quarry]

Honestly I thought everybody would hate it based off calamity subreddit

[grave rock]

i stall doing boss fights as much as possible

[gloomy grove]

i mean some people do come in here and complain

[misty wren]

no thats just reddit being miserable as usual

[spiral tree]

Calamity reddit its hell

[young notch]

But yeah, obviously the new vanilla rev fights are gonna be drastically different, that’s totally fair. I just hope that they’ll still feel like… them, y’know?

[dusk bronze]

we do not speak kindly of the red nation here

[grave rock]

i have no doubt devs want to retain their identities

[young notch]

But I’ve harped on this for too long

[misty wren]

phone almost dead must go sleep good night chat

[spiral tree]

Reword it to "i like enjoying the game"

[grave rock]

can yall not rework deerclops at all itd be funny ithink

[gloomy grove]

with a large chunk of this community wanting to interact with as little of the game as possible outside of bossfights i can easily understand why a good chunk of people are mad but i could care less

[grave rock]

honestly the only reason i dont get the complaints is

[boreal quarry]

I usually build stuff to do that

[misty wren]

only deerclops change should be removing shadow hands because telefrags suck

[dusk bronze]

[regal vessel]

I dont mind actually interacting with the game

[grave rock]

like
what even is super grindy? blood orb farming is like the MOST

[gloomy grove]

what if they exclusively changed it to not be a telefrag

[regal vessel]

The only QoL I play with is fargos souls for those inf buffs

I abhor fishing

[grave rock]

ankh shield is completely optional, lets be real ppl only fished for reaver shark, spawn rate boosts trivialize any enemy grinding..,

[safe zephyr]

I use fargos exclusively for instant houses, if there was a mod just for that I'd use it, I could do with 4 less NPCs taking up space

[spiral tree]

I used to fish to get adamantine and titanium without killing mechs

[fierce hearth]

ankh farming is also pretty trivial tbf

[spiral tree]

Ik I could just disable it

[regal vessel]

there literally is a mod for instant houses tho

[boreal quarry]

Vanilla questions which is better , Ankh Shield vs Frozen shield

[grave rock]

cosmolight got reworked but even bakidon does like more than half of what u wanted it for anyway

[regal vessel]

frozen

[grave rock]

frozen shield

[safe zephyr]

Yeah I wouldn't know, I don't use anything that ain't like, standard, with how many bugs come from just mod incompatibility I don't take any chances

[regal vessel]

ankh shield is the most useful useless accessory of all time

[gloomy grove]

it serves its niche

[boreal quarry]

Frozen shield for that damage negation

[grave rock]

ankh is good for exploring and duke fishron but frozen is just rly good DR with lotsa defense on top

and multiplayer utility

[gloomy grove]

i actually think the game should have more niche accessories and whatnot

and less general use accessories

[young notch]

Multiplayer too, I often play with friends that are worse than me

[safe zephyr]

I need more placement speed accessories

I don't wanna use instant platforms I want to BE instant platforms

[grave rock]

the humble builder potion

[safe zephyr]

I wanna be able to make those damn things in an exo chair

[young notch]

Deerclops should remain not canon but get a lore item anyway that can be summarized as “wtf is this thing doing here”

[dusk bronze]

[boreal quarry]

In my cousins world I hid an invisible chest with a zenith somewhere in their world and their in prehardmode and invisible boulders

[grave rock]

xeroc during boss rush looking at deerclops who somehow snuck in

[young notch]

LOL

[young notch]

Goat for being close to your cousins like that

Family rocks

[safe zephyr]

If boss rush is canon what even is it, just boss copies he can make?

[grave rock]

theyre copies made out of primordial light iirc

[spiral tree]

I remember when I actually had friends to play terraria

[young notch]

i can be your friend,,

haha pranked im a lone wolf,,,,,,

[spiral tree]

Breaking my heart

[grave rock]

but i like the idea that deerclops is the lone exception

[spiral tree]

I.. can't handle this...

[grave rock]

its not a construct or anything it just snuck into boss rush

dudewhat is that. i didnt summon that

[young notch]

Zote in Godhome:

[safe zephyr]

That would also make it die comically fast since it isn't enhanced in any way

[spiral tree]

Don't remind me of him pls

[young notch]

Truth

[spiral tree]

[young notch]

[grave rock]

boss rush boosted deerclops is its canon strength...

[boreal quarry]

Where head go

[grave rock]

deerclops scales past moon lord

[twin bloom]

So no head?

[high scaffold]

Exploded🤯

[regal vessel]

i made this instantly so its probably flawed

[young notch]

My personal headcanon is that Deerclops got into Terraria from the Don’t Starve universe via a rift created by Distortion shenanigans

[grave rock]

old duke in fine is craaazy

[regal vessel]

i presumed the adjustments they made to him for brainstorm are fine

[high scaffold]

Did bro realy put yhon into fine?

[twin bloom]

Yeah

[safe zephyr]

Exo mechs aren't that bad

They are quite, simple, though

[twin bloom]

They are that bad

[grave rock]

exos are pretty bad

[spiral tree]

I can't really give my opinion on vanilla calamity boss ai bc i only played it once before jumping into addons heh

[regal vessel]

they could be much more interesting

and they dont work well in multiplayer

[young notch]

Nothing works well in multiplayer so

[safe zephyr]

Was about to say

[high scaffold]

Honestly everything besides BoC and maybe scal need changes

[grave rock]

pbg in fine is also crazy

[regal vessel]

ok but its particularly bad for exos because theyre literally built around 1 player fighting them

[boreal quarry]

Devourer of gods Shotgun lasers sounds are an example why sound design matter in games

[grave rock]

plaguebringer is like. utter slop

[young notch]

True…

[safe zephyr]

Pbg doesn't seem that bad it's just that I can barely see it's attacks depending on what setup im running

[twin bloom]

Its all slop

[regal vessel]

honestly dont remember how she went

[grave rock]

exactly

[regal vessel]

Ive only done about 3 playthroughs on calamity so far (got my first pc december 2023)

currently on my 4th

[high scaffold]

Pbg is literaly just queen bee

[safe zephyr]

I mean..

[grave rock]

pbg is queen bee but with more annoying minions thats like. it

[boreal quarry]

IMO the worst thing a boss can do is be boring which is why ravager sucks

[safe zephyr]

Did they not change ravager in some way this update

[grave rock]

slime god

[safe zephyr]

Smn to do with the rock walls

[high scaffold]

Also queen bee must be my least favorite pre hm boss

[grave rock]

i like vanilla queen bee a lot

the worst part about her is that sometimes she refuses to get out of the damn wall

[young notch]

I don’t mind Ravager.
A boring boss in the middle of an otherwise hectic phase of the game is a welcome moment of peace.

[dusk bronze]

the walls have collision now

[safe zephyr]

Shockingly cheesable for the boss right before WoF

[dusk bronze]

and it spawns an additional one in death mode

[regal vessel]

zonerslop

[spiral tree]

Kinda tempted to not sleep and play calamity whole day

[grave rock]

i think at least brainstorm made em not lose to recall potion

[high scaffold]

Death qb does nothing but constantly dash, spam stingers and for some damn reason spawns hornets

[young notch]

She does WHAT

[radiant sparrow]

No way yharon is in fine

[spiral tree]

But then I remember I have a life outside my house 💔

[young notch]

That’s so weird

[regal vessel]

i enjoyed him

[safe zephyr]

You basically just need 2 layers of platform with a little space between them and better movement than a snail

[regal vessel]

i cant recall anything i particularly disliked about yharon

if i had a criticism i think the fight couldve had more to it

[grave rock]

yharon is boriiiiiing asf

[spiral tree]

I was thinking about that earlier today, why does a bee summon it's literal opps

[boreal quarry]

Yharon looks unpolished now compared to the bosses reworked in the update

[spiral tree]

Boring and uncomfy to fight for Mii icl

[high scaffold]

Also whoever made those falling hives in jungle spawn hornets instead bees, I dont think Im allowed to say that kinda stuff

[safe zephyr]

Yharon is unreasonably easy with a setup that isn't TMelee

[boreal quarry]

Yharon can have more structured attacks with the visuals having more flair to it

[regal vessel]

I dont like the murasama for this reason

[boreal quarry]

I’m glad Devourer has lasers now instead of bullets

[grave rock]

just saw golem infine

[radiant sparrow]

Fight is way too easy, and it's pretty boring

[safe zephyr]

The fight using that became more bareable after the update I feel like, but I would not wanna go thru it ever again

[regal vessel]

you unlock the murasama post-dog and every boss after dog is pain with true melee

[high scaffold]

Yharon can have a full on revamp with a resprite

[safe zephyr]

Yharon took me more attempts than any boss prior, exos took like 3

[regal vessel]

Honestly if it was up to me

I would remove golem

but thats not realistic

[hot wadi]

Ravager has a major rework planned when they revamp the Brimstone crags

[boreal quarry]

It will “soon”

[regal vessel]

ik

[grave rock]

see heres the thing w golem

[radiant sparrow]

New golem is actually decent now

[grave rock]

he suffers from post plantera sucking esp in vanilla

[dusk bronze]

distant is probably outdated by now
maybe

[radiant sparrow]

Pre brainstorm golem was so fucking cancer I could feel a tumour in my brain grow

[regal vessel]

yea im pre cultist rn in my playthrough

[dusk bronze]

TRUE

[regal vessel]

golem rn is not unfun nor he is easy

[regal vessel]

wdym

[dusk bronze]

it is unchanged

[boreal quarry]

Why hasn’t anybody made a separate texture mod for Yharon

[dusk bronze]

wing animation hell

[radiant sparrow]

Nah, he has stomps that spawn short lived fireballs

[boreal quarry]

Yeah

[radiant sparrow]

And fireballs aren't fucking bouncing everywhere 24/7

[radiant sparrow]

Just glue the wings of rebirth onto the sprite

[dusk bronze]

[boreal quarry]

It’s just me but I want a moonlight great sword in calamity

[safe zephyr]

I sincerely hope they never nerf submarine shocker, being able to melt cultist and golem with technically a pre mech weapon is very entertaining

[high scaffold]

Calamity true melee be like
Step 1: make people want to engage in true melee with higher dps and cool effects
Step 2: punish players for trying to use true melee on bosses with them shooting projectiles straight into players face without warning

[grave rock]

u forgot step 3

exo mechs

[high scaffold]

BoC is fine with true melee tho

[radiant sparrow]

True melee exomech is so aids and I will never do it

[safe zephyr]

Exo mechs aren't even hard with Tmelee, atleast not on revengeance

[boreal quarry]

Old lord claymore needs a bigger hit box to hit a boss without getting smacked

[grave rock]

dont they take a good fuckin while

[safe zephyr]

Idk if that's a recent change that made it so, but they are legit one of the easier tmelee fights

[high scaffold]

Because surprise surprise, it wasnt made by one specific individual that doesnt know how to make bosses

[safe zephyr]

Artemis and apollo are the only exos that don't get eviscerated by dragons rage

[regal vessel]

they could do what nuclear throne did with melee weapons

[safe zephyr]

And fighting just them isn't very difficult

[regal vessel]

and make melee weapons delete/reflect projectiles

obviously that would be op

[radiant sparrow]

I was using the sepulcher summon and I couldn't see shit for exo mechs

[grave rock]

thorium's "solution" to true melee is very impractical but its also rly cute

[boreal quarry]

What is it

[regal vessel]

but maybe instead of just deleting them outright you could maybe reduce the damage of them if you hit one

[safe zephyr]

Sounds more shieldish than Melee

I feel like there is alr something like that which I can't remember

[regal vessel]

what is it

[grave rock]

bosses have specific openings unique to true melee
grand thunder bird dash gets stunned if u hit it with true melee, queen jellyfish tentacles can be cut...its not very good but i feel like theres some potential there

[regal vessel]

never played thorium

[high scaffold]

One of the reasons true melee isnt very good is because there are barely to no tools to close the distance between player and enemies without player taking damage

[regal vessel]

oh wait that already was asked lol

im blind

[boreal quarry]

Old lord claymore windup takes too long . It’s practical for bosses that don’t move much

[spiral tree]

That sounds Sooo cool

Most bosses just require you to be patient for them to do the attack where you are actually able to do 1k damage

[safe zephyr]

Unique encounters like that sound fun but would also take eons to even do properly

[grave rock]

yup

i do think giving bosses openings where true melee players can go wild is a good idea

[boreal quarry]

I think if they make openings for true melee like a boss stopping for a little bit after an attack

[regal vessel]

boring

[high scaffold]

BoC is good for true melee as pretty much all attacks allow them to make at least a hit

[safe zephyr]

It's more concerning to me from a making sense standpoint, I don't see how more openings would happen unless you have some kind of stun mechanic

[regal vessel]

i think true melee or really just melee in general could be pushed away from pure defense and tankiness and instead get accessories that favor dodging and blocking

cause true melee is being smited soon

[grave rock]

it can just be short cooldown periods between attacks or a particular cooldown after a strong attack no?

[safe zephyr]

Tmelee is already pretty focused on dodging in a lot of fights

Though it also has the ordinary melee tankiness

[safe zephyr]

I guess so, idk, it's hard to visualise

[boreal quarry]

Summoner is more melee than melee is

[safe zephyr]

Honestly true

[regal vessel]

the trvth nvke melee mains dont want you to hear

whips are boring though so it kinda cancels out

[high scaffold]

Honestly, one of my favorite true melee weapons isnt even true melee

Its the ark line

[boreal quarry]

The Possession is so cool though

[safe zephyr]

The ark line is Tmelee?

[regal vessel]

my problem is that all of the whips have the exact same attack method

[grave rock]

yall whats the best calamity weapon and why is it tyranny's end

[regal vessel]

you just sling a whip in a oval hitbox

[high scaffold]

No but it does benefit a lot from it and has tools to make it viable

[grave rock]

wait til u find out abt guns

[boreal quarry]

So you want more summoner subtype weapons

[regal vessel]

No

I want whips to have more variance in how they attack

[grave rock]

i love sniper rifles!!!! grahh!!!!

[safe zephyr]

Summoner def needs more variety in terms of active attacking weapons

[grave rock]

i hope we get more stuff like slime puppet staff

[safe zephyr]

Don't whips exist purely to make a final fantasy ref

[boreal quarry]

The best thing this update they added was the m1 garand

[grave rock]

i think foxsparks was a cool direction to take the idea in

[safe zephyr]

Im like 80% sure that's how they initially came to be

[high scaffold]

Broken ark is regularly true melee and gets empowered upon a parry that can only be performed in true melee with parry also giving I-frames to not receive contact damage or damage from point blank projectiles

[regal vessel]

Like a whip that needs to be charged up or a whip that needs precision (kind of like a spear)

[boreal quarry]

I wish foxspark could be summoned more than once like Abigail or the desert tiger

[high scaffold]

Also biome blade line has some good tmelee too

[safe zephyr]

I feel like more of the multi-minion slots using weapons can have a switch in direction similar to the desert tiger

[boreal quarry]

Or a whips that pulls in enemies and traps them

[regal vessel]

9 new whips in 1.4.5, 3/9 of them are post-golem and 2/9 of them have no special effects and do the exact same thing, 2/9 of them are useless past eoc and the rest get immediately outclassed

all of the new phm whips are outclassed by a pre boss whip bruh

[safe zephyr]

I feel like a small armor edition would've been better, make a flinx fur hat or something

[boreal quarry]

Melee got the best changes in the update

I don’t know why the shadow flane knife are considered melee

[safe zephyr]

That is not even where I'd draw the line

[grave rock]

mandatory throwing knife weapon for each class

every class must have a throwing knife duh

[safe zephyr]

There is one weapon drop from yharon whose name I don't remember the name of, which I absolutely cannot fathom how it's considered melee

There is absolutely nothing melee about it except the damage type

[grave rock]

oh ye that one thats just a wand

[boreal quarry]

Summoner sorta has throwing knife if you consider blade staff

[boreal quarry]

Magic with no mana

[high scaffold]

And flying knife is also melee and is considered a "boomerang"

[safe zephyr]

Straight up

[slate whale]

ngl i dont know why calamity devs made every class but rouge and summoner mid

[safe zephyr]

I mean, that could go for more melee weapons

But that one isn't even trying to make it sword shaped or anything

[boreal quarry]

Just rename melee to warrior honestly

[frail ice]

Rogue is mid though in my experience except endgame

[high scaffold]

You know what, thats what its called in the game

[safe zephyr]

Rogue is not treated very well for being this mods own child

[slate whale]

rouge

[safe zephyr]

Not even benefiting from demon shade is crazy to me

[frail ice]

thats what always confusd me too

[slate whale]

you mean the class

[safe zephyr]

I said rogue.

[slate whale]

with the Highest Dps in general troughout the Entire Mod

that rouge?

[safe zephyr]

Idk, I've played thru most of the classes in that mod, it is not quite. THAT. Compared to everything else

[high scaffold]

People have just decided that melee damage means the class is called melee while its actualy called warrior by game itself

[safe zephyr]

But that might be on me for being stealth focused

[slate whale]

nah thats the goated way to do rouge

[grave rock]

not even true pre brainstorm and i kinda doubt people already got those numbers for brainstorm release

[boreal quarry]

Yharim better be nameless deity level of boss fight with this waiting

[high scaffold]

Stealth only? Have you tried mixing maybe

[safe zephyr]

I only played rogue once as stealth on my very first playthrough, mixing was really not on my mind

[radiant sparrow]

He better be a good and long fight

[grave rock]

i hope yharim never releases atp

[slate whale]

either way i much prefer the concept of making mage have the highest general dps In exchange for no armor , but calamity doesnt even really do that

[boreal quarry]

Lore heavy

[high scaffold]

Speaking of mage, it got whole 2 calamity weapons that make you interact with mana and not just chug mana potions

And some accessories too

[slate whale]

man a whole 2 Weapons???

[boreal quarry]

I just thought of draedon inspecting the fight then yharim notices Draedon and starts arguing with him

[slate whale]

does that make it not the absolute worst class in calamity yet?

[boreal quarry]

2x more weapons than mage got in 1.4.5

[slate whale]

true

[safe zephyr]

I was concerned about trying mage because of having to "manage mana", not much changed aside from the fact I had to dedicate an inventory slot to 9000 mana potions

[high scaffold]

Ion blaster and apoctosis array

[safe zephyr]

Stealth rogue actually seemed more like mage to me than mage

Not the way it looks, but the way it plays is what I would've imagined mage to be

[high scaffold]

Also mana polarizer and chaos stone make you interact with mana too

[slate whale]

it looks like a constellation prize to SPCH fans
"Sorry guys that we absolutely made a decent mid hardmode weapon abysmal dogsheit, Here take this mid as your reward "

like

i think they hate mages like actual

[high scaffold]

Reading the 2.1 changes for SHPC and it seems rather unique

[slate whale]

kind of like biome blade

but costs souls

its dps is awful

its very much a gimmik weapon now

[high scaffold]

Its also post mechs now

[slate whale]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-danny-devito-this-fucking-this-fucking-rots-gif-5376903909901530178

[grave rock]

this is the weapon ur mourning? sob

[slate whale]

it turned destroyer into the destroyed in like 2 seconds

[spiral tree]

That weapon that I hate

[slate whale]

namely on getfixedboi it was like 9999% more busted

[high scaffold]

My turbo op weapon no longer cheeses the most cheesed boss the game

[slate whale]

not even turbo op

its olny good against like 2 bosses

scel and destoryer

[grave rock]

reworked shpc can just have its stats buffed...id rather wait for a buff than keep this generic..thing

[slate whale]

it was generic i will concede that

but its horrid now

it would rather they give it to rangers instead

[grave rock]

so cant they just...buff it?

[slate whale]

it costs souls

you cant get 999 souls easily

[grave rock]

yeah?

[high scaffold]

And ranger weapons cost ammo, crazy right

[slate whale]

and you need like 200 minimum per boss atempt

[echo oasis]

good weapons for ranger and mage pre plantera?

[slate whale]

anit none of those

[high scaffold]

You can actualy, also it can vacuum up used souls to get them back

[grave rock]

how much are u shooting w this

per boss

[slate whale]

no when you fire it

[echo oasis]

fr? even post brainstorm?

[slate whale]

and hit something

they turn itno mini souls

you dont get hte actual ammo back

[grave rock]

50 uses per soul...

[slate whale]

just can do like a crappy ver of the old rapid fire attack when you have enought sored mini souls

[slate whale]

i call bull

[high scaffold]

If you are at post mech stage getting souls shouldnt be a problem

[slate whale]

i used that on release and it was 1 to 1

[slate whale]

im allready grinding stuff for a bunch of mentally disabled gooner true melee mouth breathing aphab waving , snot brains

im not grinding souls as well

[lavish siren]

when i tried it yesterday it was 50 uses per soul but the rapid fire mode uses 1 charge per individual shot of rapid fire

[grave rock]

.ew

[slate whale]

theses litterally 10 of them and me , a mage

[gloomy grove]

lmao

is that a real statement

[high scaffold]

Idk

[grave rock]

chck literally 2 messages above

[radiant sparrow]

What does any of that mean

[gloomy grove]

yeah i saw immediately after sending that

its so bleak ❤️

[grave rock]

idk. kind of a fucked up thing to call other people but ok

[radiant sparrow]

Aw it's not that bad

There's definitely worse

[burnt basin]

ive killed so many bone serpents, im post eoc so why is a 25% so hard'

[high scaffold]

Thats how rng works

[spiral tree]

I like spiders

[gloomy grove]

it kind of is just word vomit yeah

[high scaffold]

I wonder if there will be any more arsenal reworks in the next update

[slate whale]

it all has meaning friend

[gloomy grove]

mmm no i dont think so

[gloomy grove]

like the next update directly after this?

id say like a 70/30 chance-ish

maybe

[analog helm]

true spiders are pretty cool

[radiant sparrow]

When you say directly like how direct?

[high scaffold]

I think I heard something about arsenal armor being worked on a lot

[slate whale]

ahap waver is a us military iq test that exists basically to test if you are capable of breathing on your own without supervision , mentally disabled means what you think it does , gooner (im not explaining that one) True melee is a class that is rly horrid , mouth breathing meaning that they dont have enough braincells to do anything but breath , and snot brains is referring to the fact they are just pain old stupid

[gloomy grove]

are there various forms/definitions of "direct" that im not aware of 😔

[high scaffold]

I think you got ragebaited

[gloomy grove]

dw, kettles cool down after a week

[viscid sandal]

terra prisma is now daytime only again??

[radiant sparrow]

Nah like when I guess? Or like a timeframe

[radiant sparrow]

Yeah but like it falls off post ml

So no worry

[slate whale]

they are half alt left , half alt right with a middle ground of a couple British people

[grave rock]

ur weird

[gloomy grove]

yeah pretty much

[high scaffold]

Did ranger realy get changes to all of its arsenal weapons?

All 5

[slate whale]

nah

they probs nerfed every class but summoner

[gloomy grove]

i think all 5 are changes yes

the other arsenal lines are still missing a couple

[slate whale]

and then probs gave summoner the world evicerator 9 billion

[high scaffold]

Pulse rifle while not reworked still renamed and rebalanced a bit

[gloomy grove]

pulse rifle is the first one right?

[tribal isle]

Orderbringer

[radiant sparrow]

I mean the summoner arsenal weapons are cool but I never see a use for them....

There's just better summons

[gloomy grove]

oh wait pulse rifle is the last one nvm

[tribal isle]

What if they added a whip
But it’s a gun

[high scaffold]

T5 cosmolite

[radiant sparrow]

I hope that whatever whips are added are unique

Whips are fucking boring

Concept wise and progression wise

[high scaffold]

Mage got 3 arsenal weapons changed, rogue 2, melee and summoner both 1

[gloomy grove]

isnt there only one reworked arsenal weapon for summoner rn

yeah what nesegx said

[radiant sparrow]

Yeah the shrimp

[regal vessel]

Entropic Claymore or Storm Ruler for Goon Lord

[regal vessel]

I lowk used hellkite and it worked a lot better than I thought it wouldve

[high scaffold]

Tbh, melee and summoner are kinda hitting ideas issues for fully technical weapons

[gloomy grove]

the missile barrage is pretty fun to play around with

[high scaffold]

With special abilities too

[regal vessel]

summoner has no shortage of interesting weapons they just havent really done anything super unique

[safe zephyr]

Hella late but Submarine shocker can obliterate him in like 2 attacks

[regal vessel]

ill note it for next time

unless it gets nerfed

which it prob will

[radiant sparrow]

Missile barrage?

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-shades-sunglasses-eyeglasses-cant-see-gif-17413466

[safe zephyr]

They wouldn't do this to my boy, well, maybe, considering the 7 million tmelee weapon changes

[regal vessel]

?

[safe zephyr]

I ain't ever fought no goon lord idk what to tell you

[gloomy grove]

are you not aware?

[slate whale]

ye what about it?

[regal vessel]

moonlestor

[high scaffold]

Im saying that thinking of a good arsenal summoner weapon is not easy as summoner mostly relies not creatures and stuff and arsenal is technical, also the secondary ability needs to be though of

[safe zephyr]

I liked omniblade, im primarily naming tmelee weapons

[gloomy grove]

if you right click while holding any summon weapon will make the shrimp launch a missile barage at your cursor and leave an explosion, did you not read its tooltip

[radiant sparrow]

No....

[grave rock]

howd i access modmail

[radiant sparrow]

I didn't use the shrimp so no

[safe zephyr]

As for one those 2, I'm not entirely sure, ig you can just test

[grave rock]

oh

its literlly

stupid

im dumb

lol

[violet fable]

the new update so peak

[gloomy grove]

wait so whyd you brush it off if you never used it

😭

[radiant sparrow]

uhhhhhhh shhhh

[regal vessel]

ima do storm ruler cause of the tornado spawns

this could be tactical

wait

i need wind blade

nvm

[radiant sparrow]

You are but a flea

For I am a fish

[gloomy grove]

🥀

[slate whale]

"Strongest Mage Weapons vs The weakest summon weapon ahh"

[safe zephyr]

Somehow these. 2 videos are coming very close to crashing my disc on mobile

[slate whale]

Staff of trans representation vs supreme maxx god obliterater omega ahh

[burnt basin]

over 20 mins no bone serpent spawnb

[slate whale]

we get it

go back to grinding

bud

[cerulean elm]

Make sure brain/eater is killed first!

[slate whale]

nah bro thats not scetch af at all

[gloomy grove]

if you set the world to death, then someone sets it to rev, the world is now rev

[safe zephyr]

Might depend on host difficulty

[slate whale]

death mode is for the weak install infernum

[gloomy grove]

anyone on the server can change it at will

[slate whale]

infernum fix all problems

[gloomy grove]

yeah theres no config to blacklist nor stop others from changing it afaik

[burnt basin]

i thought it was just eye of cthulu, says in the wiki

[gloomy grove]

yeah

avoid it imo

[slate whale]

yes

100 times yes

and wraith of the gods

go in blind

yeah yeah sure bud

[gloomy grove]

youd run into issues(bugs) even if the difficulty is off

the addon relies on its worldgen as well

[pseudo vector]

infernum is not good for multiplayer

[gloomy grove]

^

[slate whale]

shhhhh

[slate whale]

shhhh

[pseudo vector]

i would not recommend infernum for a multiplayer playthrough

[slate whale]

dont tell them that

[serene parrot]

HOW DO YOU GET THE CRIMSON KEY IN A CORRUPTION WORLD NOW THAT WOF DOESNT DROP THE KEYS ANYMORE

[gloomy grove]

yeah it would but id really go against just adding it

[slate whale]

the only buggy boss is golem tbf

[gloomy grove]

youd have a significantly more stable/better time without it

[pseudo vector]

am i not allowed to give someone genuine advice to help their experience not be miserable???

[slate whale]

they tell nothing but lies

you got this buddy

[crimson wraith]

Honestly even normal calamity bosses don't work super well in multiplayer imo

[slate whale]

i belive in you

[gloomy grove]

they said some odd/rude things earlier because they were mad shpc was changed so i wouldnt consider their opinions imo

[pseudo vector]

oh okay

[serene parrot]

seriously why did they remove it from WOF

that is a stupid change and should be reversed

[pseudo vector]

even though i'm pretty sure SHPC is literally better now

[gloomy grove]

yeah this too but its 10x more stable than if you were to slap infernum or other addons anyways

[slate whale]

you can win through the power of friendship

[slate whale]

L take

[vestal osprey]

Guys the new devourer drops reworks are too good

Now the weapons crafted with just cosmolite sucks by comparison

[gloomy grove]

@pseudo vector

[safe zephyr]

Deathly error

[gloomy grove]

as you can see

[pseudo vector]

oh that fucking message

[gloomy grove]

lmao

[crimson wraith]

That won't be fun in multiplayer

[pseudo vector]

dreadful message lmao

[slate whale]

nah youd win

[gloomy grove]

yeah its not great

it will still have bugs

[slate whale]

turn the Custom infernum menu music on

[crimson wraith]

It will be really buggy yeah

[slate whale]

its a banger

[gloomy grove]

infernum relies on its worldgen and the difficulty being on

[slate whale]

like really

[gloomy grove]

yeah i really dont recommend running it in multiplayer

[pseudo vector]

you need to generate a new world for infernum to work as intended

[slate whale]

infernum music is like 10 out of 10

[gloomy grove]

it will save you the headache

[serene parrot]

eh most of the songs are worse than the vcmm counterparts

the mech and empress themes are great, everything else is some degree of fine

[gloomy grove]

you and your friends are gonna sit there for an hour trying to get some bosses to run properly

[slate whale]

damm

[crimson wraith]

Brother

[slate whale]

thats a lot

of mods

True

[gloomy grove]

i dont recognize a couple of these but it seems fine, only real way to check is if you test it out anyways

hope you and your friends have fun

[amber egret]

pull the video

[slate whale]

its gonna crash a lot i warn you

[gloomy grove]

their list is pretty short so imo its unwarranted but i think that video should be a sticker here lmao

[slate whale]

like think 1 crash every half hour to an hour

[crimson wraith]

I have seen the boss checklist mod causing problems after the update so this might suck

[pseudo vector]

switch out boss checklist for boss checklist lite

[gloomy grove]

^

[pseudo vector]

its a lot more stable

[gloomy grove]

oh yeah what cd and hamza said

i forgot boss checklist is misbehaving rn

no he is his twin brother

[pseudo vector]

i mean i have the dev role so i'd hope so

[gloomy grove]

evil cdmusic ❤️

[pseudo vector]

thank you

[slate whale]

listen to the funny man with the orange name , he made have bad tastes in mage weapons but he knows his mods code

[stuck kite]

evil cdmusic infiltrated calamity dev team

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-shades-sunglasses-eyeglasses-cant-see-gif-17413466

[gloomy grove]

man

[slate whale]

summoner mainer looking ahh

[pseudo vector]

souls of sight SHPC is one of the best mage weapons for plantera / cal clone lmao

[slate whale]

nah

cut the cap

[pseudo vector]

i tested mage more than any other class before brainstorm's release dawg

[slate whale]

blud i only play mage

[gloomy grove]

theyre abit of a troll i think its best to just ignore or block them tbh

[slate whale]

i have like 9k hours on tmod

[gloomy grove]

theyve been headstrong about it for the past couple minutes

[slate whale]

it was a good weapon

[spiral tree]

I only play ranger and I say I'm missing a weapon that shoots lesbian flags and does 1 trillion damage

[gloomy grove]

100% no yeah

[slate whale]

no use infernum

[pseudo vector]

ideally no, its not made for multiplayer and is made for single player playthroughs

[radiant sparrow]

Slawg, is your calamity stuff on Spotify?

[slate whale]

there all trying to trick you

deceive you

[gloomy grove]

ooh javy should add a giant block of red text when you hop in a world on multiplayer with infernum on

[spiral tree]

Infernum scal it's completely unbeatable on mp

[slate whale]

lies

i litterally beat it with those true melee guys i played with just before brainstorm

through the power of friendship

and verbal abuse

[radiant sparrow]

Also who did the exo mech theme?

[slate whale]

and white monster

[gloomy grove]

the current one?

[spiral tree]

Well last time I played with my friends infernum scal didn't take more damage/dispawned mid fight

[pseudo vector]

no, but it will be eventually

[gloomy grove]

content wise it was smaller than i thought but it had ALOT of technical changes which are great

[iron dew]

jarvis add big red text to my screen to dissuade multiplayer use with infernum

i think people would just skip past it tbh

[crimson wraith]

I'm confused because I thought base terraria had it's last update 4 years ago

And now people are talking about future updates

[slate whale]

wth

[radiant sparrow]

Nah the be lying

[crimson wraith]

Crazy

[slate whale]

i just got a note for being transfobic

[gloomy grove]

it is funny yeah

[pseudo vector]

i don't think we'd get another terraria update for a good while

seems like they're just doing stuff for fun nowadays

[gloomy grove]

yeah its definitely just abunch of misc stuff

embeds dont work

[iron dew]

the next update will be in 6 years and itll add poop furniture and the fortnite collab

[gloomy grove]

i wish their future updates will focus alot more on backend/technical stuff like 1.4.5 though

that would be nice

[pseudo vector]

i'm cool with that being the case tho since vanilla terraria has a good vibe rn

[crimson wraith]

Btw is the galvanizing glaive getting a rework

[gloomy grove]

upload the file instead of embedding it, should work

[slate whale]

idk they let images through but not gifs

[gloomy grove]

all arsenal weapons will be reworked yeah

its just a matter of when they get around to it

[crimson wraith]

I'm trying the draedon weapons this playthrough because of the reworks and seeing this next to the other weapons was sad

[crimson wraith]

That's great

[gloomy grove]

its pretty easy to spot which are the new ones anyways they have different naming schemes

[crimson wraith]

Yeah you are right

[pseudo vector]

the rest will have their time at some point

[crimson wraith]

I think they might be my favorite weapons thus far

The early melee weapon was so damn cool

[pseudo vector]

the arsenal weapons won't be boring and sucky anymore

[gloomy grove]

augur?

[crimson wraith]

Yeah

[gloomy grove]

yeah i love it but i do hate how the hitbox for it is abit finnicky when it comes to tight spaces

[pseudo vector]

i remember seeing the mage fist arsenal weapon for the first time and i was like holy shit

[gloomy grove]

trying to hit a skeletron infront of me thats just two tiles down and the augur refuses to hit the skeleton ❤️

[crimson wraith]

Right? The right click is crazy

[pseudo vector]

i was testing stuff against death mode duke fishron lol

[crimson wraith]

Like when I used it I just started finishing the bosses with the beam just because of how cool it is

[pseudo vector]

i don't think i could properly count the number of hours i spent testing stuff for brainstorm during the update's development

[crimson wraith]

I did have this problem against skeletron actually yeah but otherwise it's perfect

[slate whale]

kind sir , of the wherest do i inquire about the transfobia report

[tribal isle]

Is calamity gonna port to terraria otherworld

[pseudo vector]

idk

[spiral tree]

Meow

[gloomy grove]

inb4 someone does some bullshit like calamity in hytale or something

[orchid finch]

The very thing that contacted you. Do not bring your punishments up publicly

[slate whale]

i see

[pseudo vector]

i think it was at around 70 hours overall for my testing hours, i know i spent between 40-50 hours just testing pre-DoG tier stuff alone

[spiral tree]

That's a lot of testing

[crimson wraith]

The new Infinity gauntlet weapon is crazy too

[pseudo vector]

i have become very well acquainted with death mode DoG and i can beat him just about every attempt now as a mage lmao

shadowbolt staff my beloved

[tribal isle]

Are there still patron weapons yet to get added

[pseudo vector]

yes

there's a pretty sizeable backlog still

its the reason why we stopped taking them because there was just so many

[amber egret]

what does Shadowbolt Staff do now

i know it was already Pretty Good

[tribal isle]

The money tho

[pseudo vector]

we still get the money regardless lmao

[tribal isle]

You’d get more tho

[pseudo vector]

but we'd be buried in patron items

[gloomy grove]

^

[pseudo vector]

and they would legit take years more to get implemented

[gloomy grove]

theres already so many patron items as is and im pretty sure the backlog is still massive no?

[pseudo vector]

i think our backlog is still sitting in the 20's to 30's

[gloomy grove]

i do love the zenith throne though i think thats a funny one

[amber egret]

just ask ozzatron to hire more devs to solely work on patron items

[tribal isle]

Wait is zenith throne an actual thing

[amber egret]

they're paid in Patron Money

[gloomy grove]

yes

[tribal isle]

Peak

[gloomy grove]

its funny as fuck seeing this while checking items to craft

[pseudo vector]

LOL?

[spiral tree]

Th is this I need it

[pseudo vector]

that looks so funny

i've never seen this until today

[gloomy grove]

sometimes patron items can be funny ❤️

shoutout to bladesabers

[spiral tree]

It looks so stupid 😭

[iron dew]

i remember seeing this things recipe yesterday while playing and going "wtf am i looking at" 😭

[slate whale]

i need it

[pseudo vector]

sometimes you get a zenith throne
other times you get an unstable castor's gauntlet

[dull bobcat]

did the update remove the giant hive structure? cus i don't have it in my world

[pseudo vector]

aka you get something funny and simple or the most complicated shit in the world

[pseudo vector]

its been separated from the giant jungle tree

[high scaffold]

Deeper underground

[dull bobcat]

alr, thx

btw, was the structure above the shimmer a calamity update feature or bigger and boulder feature?

[pseudo vector]

nope, its a calamity feature

[spiral tree]

SO THATS HOW I was supposed to find shimmer

[iron dew]

classic patreon item moments

[gloomy grove]

tmod isnt on 1.4.5 so even if it was from vanilla, you wouldnt have it

[dull bobcat]

so i don't have that in my world, i didnt see the structure anywhere between my spawn and the jungle side ocean

[pseudo vector]

you're so real for this

[gloomy grove]

oh i just read up on it wth man lmao

[hardy gulch]

i aint making this shit man, im no king

[gloomy grove]

i mean its cool but holy fuck

[pseudo vector]

unstable castor's gauntlet is the most complicated weapon in calamity now i'm pretty sure

[gloomy grove]

it would probably be up my alley

alot to take in for sure though

[spiral tree]

What does it say

[gloomy grove]

the icons look nice, did dia work on these?

[gloomy grove]

if you want to read up on it without having to check the wiki

[wicked halo]

If we're talking about Patreon items.

Dark Master carried me so much through early Hardmode.

[hardy gulch]

late post moon lord TSA type shit

[pseudo vector]

dark master is a goated early hardmode weapon

i remember it being really good against infernum destroyer when i did my infernum playthrough last year

[spiral tree]

Yeaaah that looks really complicated to get done, but I like the icons on the second image they are so cool

[pseudo vector]

infernum

[gloomy grove]

its infernum's hp bar style

[vestal osprey]

Theres a setting in the menu

[molten grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158870347332984852/1318643097701191680/Thaum_Symbols.gif?ex=69901355&is=698ec1d5&hm=9783024a4e2f50edfc80f8a1e05348ef779d88e0cdc1536b1fc14d60975f63aa&

[iron dew]

holy moly

[pseudo vector]

all the assets for unstable caster's gauntlet

[high scaffold]

Thaumcraft

[spiral tree]

Wowie that's really impressive, I really like the concept of the weapon it's really original

[hardy gulch]

unstable castor's gauntlet scares me

[molten grove]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Unstable_Caster's_Gauntlet

[pseudo vector]

thaumcraft references wooooo

[vestal osprey]

Why did you go so hard with this weapon?

[molten grove]

well
technically its not original but shhh

[hardy gulch]

caster's gauntlet

[spiral tree]

I will keep thinking it's original

[molten grove]

sponsored by patreon !

[amber egret]

what does this even Do

[hardy gulch]

NuH

[high scaffold]

Cast stuff using vis

[amber egret]

this feels like im gonna need to play an etnirely different video game every 30 seocnds

warioware style

[pseudo vector]

once again you either get a zenith throne or an unstable caster's gauntlet

there's no inbetween with the patrons

[spiral tree]

Zenith throne pls

😻

[amber egret]

can i get a very funny gauss gaunlet

[twin roost]

The most beautiful awesome weapon you've ever seen or a toilet.

[pseudo vector]

i don't know if we have anything else that's as complicated as UCG still on our backlog

i hope not lmao

[amber egret]

a eulogy for the dying whispers, faded beyond compared or this mushroom

[spiral tree]

How much ugc content there is

[gloomy grove]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_content

this doesnt include their backlog

[vestal osprey]

Just wait until the new calamity health bar ui rolls out

[spiral tree]

Thanks will check when I leave my bed :pp

[pseudo vector]

chances are some of the items you've used in your playthroughs are patreon items

there's that many of them

[twin roost]

Arkemedes' Divine Formation or paper aeroplane.

[iron dew]

squidward door or every class hamfisted into a single weapon

[vestal osprey]

Tyranny's end was a patreon item

That suprised me the most

[amber egret]

a noble cause, ever shattered beyond forgiveness OR john mcapples

[twin roost]

Mirror Of Kalandra 🩵

[high scaffold]

I love that the recipes of summoning items for aureus and pbg were changed

[tribal isle]

Can’t tell which is better

[pseudo vector]

one is a significantly bigger headache for devs

[high scaffold]

Preparation for future reworks directly tying them to draedon

[amber egret]

asking for a weapon thats actually just my math homework (yall gotta solve precalc ahahaha)

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/heonism-for-the-love-of-god-please-please-gif-24062262

programmers when they saw unstable caster's gauntlet

[amber egret]

yall gotta do MATH

[vestal osprey]

Where did you find it? Looks cooler then the one I use

[tribal isle]

This gives the vibe of the old 1.3 hp bar everyone used back in the day

Always the Chinese have the best mods

[high scaffold]

I wonder what mechs revengeance and death reworks will be

[regal vessel]

i thought the devs werent doing patreon items anymore

[pseudo vector]

we aren't taking new ones

we just have a huge backlog of old items that we're gradually getting through

[regal vessel]

🤔

[orchid finch]

The backlog became so big that devs decided it's already more than enough

[muted harness]

For reference, Amphibian Guitar and Tau Cannon are items donated for by two friends of mine, they came out this update, after what ugh like five years I think? We all donated within a few months of each other, with my item being fairly easy to guess

[sharp ravine]

hold on

how the fuck do i get fossil armor

isnt sturdy fossil only dropped by cnidrion

[silent chasm]

Should this even be called photosynthesis potion now?

[radiant sparrow]

Nah, I think it's in the underground desert

[sharp ravine]

yeah but in low amounts

how tf do i reliably get sturdy fossils

[echo oasis]

Could it be the daawnlight spirit origin accessory?

[silent chasm]

shimmer scarab bombs

[muted harness]

Maybe

[sharp ravine]

aw man

why didnt my world generate pumpkins

i wanta da pumpler :(

[plush carbon]

dont pumpkins only generate naturally in Halloween

you gotta either get Dryad or change your clock

[tribal isle]

What did they do to it 😭 😭 😭

[amber egret]

this does not seem very good actually

if they healed more health but overtime itd seem a bit better but as of right now it seems rather situational

(more alcohol esque than buff potion)

[radiant flower]

dont you get sturdy fossils from extractinating fossils

[amber egret]

yeah

or killing the desert worms

[radiant flower]

they spawn in large chunks so thats probably the safest way

[blazing field]

alcohols explicitly always have drwabacks, not really

and niche potions can exist

[amber egret]

i moreso mean in its nicheness compared to other buffs

[blazing field]

titan potion

[amber egret]

its such a minute buff that most people who would use it would probably be either Bloodflare or statuefarming(?)

[amber egret]

this is also a niche potion compared to other buffs

yes

[blazing field]

inferno potion

[amber egret]

inferno potion is a net positive in mist places

most*

[blazing field]

not everything in a game needs to be meta

[solar hare]

❓

[amber egret]

in its nicheness

[gritty musk]

yeah i dont think think anything is as niche as titan potion lmfao true

[amber egret]

not in its inherent downside (which it lacks)

[blazing field]

alcohols also aren't even necessarily niche

[amber egret]

most times

[solar hare]

its not even niche

[blazing field]

alot of alcohols have really damn generally good effects

[amber egret]

they have good effects but their downsides means that you cant just equip the ones for your buff

[tribal isle]

This seems extremely not useful unless you’re in pre hm where most bosses have minions that drop hearts

[blazing field]

alot of bosses in hm also spawn minions

and also,

events

[gritty musk]

good for plantera and destroyer i spose

[silent chasm]

Yeah, it's pretty much useless rn.

[solar hare]

https://tenor.com/view/shane-collecting-himself-meme-jonbernthal-twd-gif-11779035775275661220

[blazing field]

ok

[silent chasm]

Tell me that I'm wrong here.

[blazing field]

im gonna list every hardmode boss i remember that can spawn minions

[high scaffold]

I wonder, SSO

[hushed hazel]

Done

[solar hare]

Ten=anus Joe

[hushed hazel]

:D

[solar hare]

happy birthday

[solar hare]

doesnt even need to just be bosses its ignorant at best to assume hearts are only useful against bosses

[blazing field]

yeah i did bring up events

[gloomy grove]

people only know bosses 😔

[solar hare]

you did

[amber egret]

it doesnt even buff heart drops

[blazing field]

queen slime, brimstone elemental, destroyer, calclone, analevi, plantera, astrum aureus, lunatic cultist, unsure if i'm forgetting any

[amber egret]

like its basically just "hey if you spawn hearts they give 5 more health"

[blazing field]

yeah that is literally what it does yes

[amber egret]

thats such a boring potion

[solar hare]

when the potion does what it says it does in the tooltip

[amber egret]

it used to do like
More

this feels like a degrade

[gloomy grove]

photosynthesis potion was kind of too strong anyways

[blazing field]

i cant lie i never used the previous version of it because it was unecessarily overcomplicated and i did not like having to stand still in the middle of combat to get a meaningful benefit

[solar hare]

duke fishron + plaguebringer goliath

[amber egret]

it went from Strong to i dunno

[gritty musk]

its tricky cause you cant really just buff the heart healing even more cause then it could easily be a bit too strong against its best use cases like plantera and destroyer, so itd be ideal for it have a more minor yet universal effect as well, like before lmfao. if it was too strong fair enough but its so situational rn. like ok brimmy technically has ads but like 3 lol

[gritty musk]

do sharkrons drop hearts if they just smash on the ground

cause pretty rare you actually kill them properly

[blazing field]

also like if you want to stand still to get better healing,

shiny stone

[solar hare]

they are still killable adds

[amber egret]

yeah but thats a whole ass accessory

[blazing field]

Yeah!

[amber egret]

i used it for the better healing during day time fights

[blazing field]

i sure do wonder why having a buff potion thta did the same effect but better was considered unbalanced

[amber egret]

evne past that this still feels like a gigantic cut

they coulda kept the regen part even but they instead made 20 hp pickups heal for 25 now! wowie!