calamity-update-talk

[sturdy thistle]

Dunno where the negative stigma around rogue comes from considering it's generally been either the strongest or second strongest class for the past like
3 years

[grim imp]

stealth or spam?

[granite sapphire]

No spoilerses

[sturdy thistle]

Weapon dependant

Sometimes spam is the broken one
Sometimes it stealth

[grim imp]

mbmb

[sturdy thistle]

You're in cal update talk

[grim imp]

do you switch between em?

[sturdy thistle]

Expect spoilers lmao

[brittle escarp]

Is it just me or does Ranger feel a lot better this update? I have been doing my normal Ranger run and I feel like I am cooking

[grave geyser]

honestly I wasnt even planning on doing a flat out facetank the original plan was to bug abuse with sabiton (which LIVED BTW)
and then that kill was so pathetically easy I was like "I can probably do it without" and so I did

[sturdy thistle]

Hybrid is a thing although very unexplored currently so can't say if it's as good as I would'v eliked

[sturdy thistle]

That's hilarious

[granite sapphire]

Ive gone the entire way without any spoilers except that vengeful sun is better than terraprisma

[grim imp]

hmm, it’s between rogue and summoner then idk

[sturdy thistle]

What the fuck happened with vengeful sun staff

[granite sapphire]

Snapthorn before a single crystal

Who knew spawning right above the underground jungle would be such a blessing

[grim imp]

is there sub classes for summoner?

[granite sapphire]

Whip
Summon
Sentry
Other

[grim imp]

i see

[granite sapphire]

If you're doing whips I recommend catalyst mod turned on

[grim imp]

don’t most people do whip/summon hybrid

[granite sapphire]

They're the closest to balanced whips you'll get

[granite sapphire]

Unofficial calamity whips if you want unbalanced whips

[tropic jolt]

😭

[sturdy thistle]

I'm going to do fucking
Tier list testing for vengeful sun staff

Seems to have not been tested this patch yet

[grim imp]

i’m leaning more towards rogue cause it fits my style more

but idk

[sturdy thistle]

Lets see if it's actually as stupid as people say it is

Or if it's an unofficial whips thing breaking something like that one quick dog kill I saw on reddit

[mystic eagle]

Draedon's security cameras spying on the player like

[grave geyser]

oh lol
I was about to do just that

[twin mural]

false

[granite sapphire]

The whip was star Scrapper iirc

[twin mural]

they're inside the player's walls

[granite sapphire]

One of the people I heard from said it obliterates dog

[sturdy thistle]

Considering cal adds zero whips

Probably that mod causing funny shit again

I'll do some tests regardless

[lyric trellis]

Nuclear bomb incoming

[tropic jolt]

👀

[jagged copper]

I can finally see the malice...changes...

10 lunges

[regal vessel]

i think whats more concerning is malice dashes being harder than infernum

[jagged copper]

you'd be surprised how consistent they get, but the rift dashes scare me

[regal vessel]

im pretty sure ambergis is required for dog dashes

[jagged copper]

yes, yes it is

[grave geyser]

which they should be?
infernum isnt exactly aiming to be on par with torture simulator

[jagged copper]

it's also a lot more reaction-based than rhythm/pattern based as he deviates a lot

I unironically find the charge phase to be the most fun

[regal vessel]

idk im just typing shi

[mystic fractal]

does warding no longer scale up from 4 def to 5 then 6?

[jagged copper]

this was the best run I had

[dusk bronze]

nop

[mystic fractal]

how much def is warding supposed to give at the pre-DoG stage

just trying to clarify

[jagged copper]

+4

it's always +4 now

[mystic fractal]

that was my question, did it change

because I swear it was different before this update

but im not seeing it anywhere in the notes

[jagged copper]

yes it did use to scale up

I think up to +6 in Post-ML

used to be more, then it got nerfed

now it's gone completely

[mystic fractal]

yeah I was in the middle of an infernum run then update hit, I was wondering why my defense dropped so hard

[jagged copper]

I wouldn't worry too much about that

boss damage was tweaked

and certain armor sets had their def buffed/rebalanced too

[mystic fractal]

definitely should be mentioned in the notes if its not already I couldn't find it anywhere

the warding change, I saw the boss damage changes

[sharp ravine]

hold on why should i get demon bow/ tendon bow when platinum bow is legit just better

[wide wadi]

It’s okay just don’t get hit

[twin mural]

tried to look it up

it actually says the opposite lol

me when i lie

[mystic fractal]

lmao yeah thats what I found when using the find command, when I saw that I came here out of concern to if maybe it was unintended

[twin mural]

wait nvm

im stupid

it was up there

[mystic fractal]

I searched "prefix" and couldn't find that either weird

[tall mulch]

yo guys, how do i summon the ceaseless void?????

the boss checklist is bugged

it doesn't say what do i need to craft

[tropic jolt]

rune of kos

[granite sapphire]

The summon providence drops in the archives

[tropic jolt]

use it in the dungeon

[tight karma]

I think its called mark of providence now

[granite sapphire]

It is

[tropic jolt]

foiled again by the EVIL calamity updates

[granite sapphire]

I forgot the name tho

Since I've only used it like 9 times

[tall mulch]

TYSM

[tropic jolt]

alright im just going to stop answering questions until I beat the whole game again they changed too much 😂

[granite sapphire]

Ive beat it 3 times and still don't remember dw

The update at least

I've beaten it like

dozens more

[tropic jolt]

calamity overload

[tight karma]

Just "finished" my playtrough as mage. (Nameless is left) and gotta say, i had a blast with this update.
Also, Chaos Stone is busted

[granite sapphire]

I've finished 3 of different classes
Also huh?

Chaos Stone didnt seem that good when I checked it out

[tight karma]

Its infinite mana with no mana sickness and it applies a fat burn on all enemies. There is not a single immune one.
Since you can change how much max mana you have with Disgusting Meat, you can either go minimum mana and just enjoy infinite or min-max the Max mana so you wont suffer the burn too much

in return for big damage

[granite sapphire]

ah well I'm a mana regen fiend

[ripe pebble]

when does the class setups guide usually get updated?

[granite sapphire]

I abuse Regen stats

[granite sapphire]

Likely months later

[tight karma]

I just combined it with radiance in the end so i was able to go quite high with the Manaburn and still have a ton of regen xD

[ripe pebble]

ah

[fierce parcel]

do other mods like magic storage work with the updated version of calamity

[tight karma]

But imo the most important part is the infinite mana with noc sickness. It makes such a difference

[tight karma]

yes

[fierce parcel]

ty twin

[deep kite]

does anyone know if the new "pointer" is bugged? because for me it doesnt work only when someone else equips it

[dull heart]

Elaborate - if another player equips it, it doesn't work for you when you have it equipped too?

[tight karma]

Doze summoned

[deep kite]

it only works when another player equips it and it doesnt work for them aswell

[dull heart]

so another player equips it and then it works for you? Does it require you to have it on too?

[tight karma]

You guys were pretty fast with the Star Beam Rye rework.

[deep kite]

no only them

[dull heart]

okay

[radiant sparrow]

anything that i should use for exo mechs on summoner?

[dull heart]

I'll look into it

[deep kite]

thx

[granite sapphire]

I forgot what Max summon was pre boss

[tight karma]

The Curser Accessory from SCal. Exo Mechs are very easy to point at since they hodl still all fight long, so its a free multiplier and damage

Well, not holding still but they are glued to your screen

[radiant sparrow]

anything weapon wise aswell?

[granite sapphire]

I think it's 3 right

Flinx/Wulfrum
Potion
Player

[tight karma]

Technically you could yoink a Station from the dungeon before you die :3

[granite sapphire]

Potentially, but I think reaver skip is outdated now

Yeah

59%

[tight karma]

Just hoik phase trough it /s

[dull heart]

Do you mean Calamity

[granite sapphire]

As if I'm close enough to a bewitching anyways

[dull heart]

Although The Curser is kinda peak name for it

[granite sapphire]

Also too much effort

[tight karma]

Dont know what its called but jeah the one that sets your cursor aflame

[granite sapphire]

I mean The Grasp or Calamitous Touch also suits calamity

[mighty geyser]

calamity (accessory) in calamity (mod) is such a good bit

[granite sapphire]

I just realized

The new calamity buff

Accessory

Makes mutant a lot easier in the dlc

Since it's inside the brand of the brimstone witch

And the lump of flesh exists

Which increases damage when hovering over enemies with your cursor by 1.15x

[halcyon seal]

Fuck it im gonna suggest a calamity rename

[mighty geyser]

how dare you

may the devs smite you down

[summer shore]

Why is it spelled cursor not curser

English sucks

[radiant sparrow]

do i wanna use auric or the omega blue pre exo mech?

[mighty geyser]

latin

[tight karma]

But jeah, "The Curser" just fits so much thematic wise and function wise Good typo

[granite sapphire]

Auric has more DPS and better overall regeneration

Omega Blue is only viable on dog because he's always on your ass

[radiant sparrow]

im using the sentry for scal, the sepulcher and the kindle staff. is that enough?

[tight karma]

I have to this day not used the draedon armor. Maybe i should give it a shot next playtrough

[granite sapphire]

Metastasis summon on scal?

[granite sapphire]

It significantly boosts the DMG of the weapon you hold but if you're hit with said weapon you lose the buff

[radiant sparrow]

sorry i meant from

[granite sapphire]

Best with 2 weapons

[radiant sparrow]

but yeah i have the metastsis

[granite sapphire]

I always use metastasis if I do scal first before Exos so yeah

[tight karma]

Ufo's also seem really good for consitency

[granite sapphire]

They are, but honestly the cells are just a better ufo

but pre pillars, UFO, raven, or terraprisma is your best bet, though I heard vengeful sun beats all of them

[radiant sparrow]

but the rest is cool yeah?

[granite sapphire]

1 kindle, and lilies of finality, anything else can be like kalandra or mechworm

[tight karma]

Oh i meant the auric ufos xD

[granite sapphire]

Eh yeah, also consistent

just low dps for such consistency

[tight karma]

Either Consitent, or big deeps. If both it will be the number 1 choise for every build

And then there is Voltaic Climax/ Void Vortex

[sonic shoal]

someone know why my ice claspers summon is disappearing after like 1 min?

[halcyon seal]

Close and reopen terraria

[undone relic]

did blood orange get removed??

[granite sapphire]

None of them did

Sanguine Tangerine is the name now

[undone relic]

ohhh ok ty

[tight karma]

I think the recepies got changed tho. I remember them having some anoyying to get items

[undone relic]

sanguine didnt change

unless the blood orbs are new but i dont think they are

[granite sapphire]

Sanguine Tangerine: Post Mech 3

Miracle Fruit: Post Golem

Tainted Cloudberry: Post Providence

Sacred Strawberry: Post Yharon

[tight karma]

It now needs 1 lifefruit instead of 5 iirc

[granite sapphire]

They're not

Just the life fruit amount reduced

Devs probably thought 41 life fruits is a lot

Now it's a nice and pretty 25

Though I'm never at 500 hp until post plantera so sanguine Tangerine being there has no use for me

[undone relic]

im doing a revengeance run pre plantera and im currently at 625 hp 😭

[granite sapphire]

Well i mean I technically have 500 due to the lifeforce but yeah

I never get a single life fruit except an aegis fruit pre plantera

Even on infernum

[undone relic]

dang im not good enough for that

ill max myself out before going to the next boss

[granite sapphire]

I'm just lazy

Though if it's fargos

I will go through the effort

That mushroom Plantera is brutal

At least on masochist

though that's intended

[radiant sparrow]

theres so much going on during the exo mech wtf

[granite sapphire]

Preferably use wrath of the machines

It's more optimized and flashy but it's also easier

[radiant sparrow]

wrath of the machine?

[granite sapphire]

It uses the eternity ai for the exos

Turns the exo Mechs into the sexos mechs

[radiant sparrow]

its not the ai, its just the visual noise

[tight karma]

I wanted to use Wrath of The Machines, but the fight constanty bugged out for me. A.e. spawing in all 3 mechs at the very start, all of them super fast and invincible

sadly had to disable it

[granite sapphire]

That's a shame, they're very fun

[sonic shoal]

it worked ty

[tight karma]

Fought Goozma instead, even tho i will probably never install that one again. Together with Astralgeldon

[granite sapphire]

They feel more final boss on wotm compared to base cal and infernum

[undone relic]

did frigidash bolt get like super buffed or is it just really good cuz its way better than all the stuff listed on the current class setup guide (i am aware its getting reworked currently)

[granite sapphire]

For me Goozma wasn't even that hard, he just lags the shit out of my game

[halcyon seal]

Yes it did

[granite sapphire]

Yeah

The bounces deal separate DMG and the right click is also really strong, they're also faster too iirc

[tight karma]

For goozma what buggs me is the summoning mechanic and the way he locks you out of post Scla/Exo Mech stuff.
They could have just made him drop the summon item the first time you do his "puzzle" porperly.

And Astralgeldon is just completely unsummonable after Moonlord for some reason. I love the fight but the rest of the mod is.. not good

[radiant sparrow]

ngl i dont like exomechs that much. too much visual bullshit going on

[undone relic]

theres no way ts can be crafted right after beating the wall of flesh bro it can do like 1.5k DPS constantly

[rich ginkgo]

they're being reworked later down the road

[granite sapphire]

Isn't the rework assisted by Lucille karma

[rich ginkgo]

what

[hazy yoke]

is molten or melee aerialite armor better?

[granite sapphire]

nevermind be a jerk about it idc

[rich ginkgo]

ur thinking of wrath of the machines 😭

[tight karma]

After summoning each of them once i learned that each of them only has like 2 attacks they keep repeating. if you learn all of them it becomes really predictable what hes going to do

[rich ginkgo]

??

[granite sapphire]

Simple questions get asshole responses

[dusk bronze]

whar

[rich ginkgo]

are you good dude

[deft lily]

billions must learn to get along

[rich ginkgo]

isnt this the same guy who told that one dude to shut the fuck up over question marks

from like 2 days ago

[dusk bronze]

yeah i think

yeah it's the same person

[crisp rover]

Looking through my accessories decising what to swap out for the Ankh Shield is a weird feeling

[deft lily]

but, no it isn't.

wrath of the machines is an unofficial cal addon that reworks the exo mechs but it isn't officially endorsed by main cal or anything

[rich ginkgo]

id assume it'd be worked on by the two current boss fight guys

that being big e and doze

unless there's more

[deft lily]

who knows if it'll even be the next update

[rich ginkgo]

i dont think it's guaranteed but i think there's a decent chance at it tbh

just speculation though

[deft lily]

🤷‍♂️

[urban star]

The day they remove ceaseless void is the day this mod will triple the player base

[rich ginkgo]

simply because the exo mechs are like pretty high priority when it comes to needing a rework

[mighty sail]

I have so much lag with the new weapons anim

[dusk bronze]

you don't have to fight it

[sudden cairn]

i can see the death message rip exo twin✌️

[deft lily]

they are yeah

[dull heart]

never

[deft lily]

in terms of cal bosses at least

[dull heart]

CV is peak

Although we definitely over neutered CV

(at least on death)

rev is fine

[urban star]

It’s mere presence it’s enough to make me had it

[rich ginkgo]

distortion will save cv

[deft lily]

the worst rev+ vanilla boss rn in cal is skeletron

[tight karma]

I wouldnt know, wasnt looking at the screen when i killed it

[rich ginkgo]

does rev+ skeletron still have the same shitty ai

with the skull spam bullshit

[deft lily]

not in multiplayer

[urban star]

It’s the only boss in the game that I can die in 10 seconds one try and no hit it the next

[dull heart]

rev+ skeleton is actually pretty fine of an AI tbh

except in multiplayer

[urban star]

I’ve have a purely hateful relationship with it since 2022

[dull heart]

not notable good but like

[dusk bronze]

it's so fucking boring man

[fathom girder]

CV is my least favorite boss in the mod still

I don't understand it at all

[dull heart]

Of all the rev+ bosses to find notably bad it's not one I'd have on the list

[rich ginkgo]

i personally think it's stupid

just because it's reallyy spammy

[dusk bronze]

am i the only person with a neutral opinion of cv

[rich ginkgo]

the whole fight is skeletron spamming skulls

[dusk bronze]

it sure feels like it

[amber egret]

arent they bones in an update or am i insane

[tight karma]

Here is the hint: Just dont move. Stand still and dont fly around. You will notice a massive difference

[amber egret]

they arent skulls anymore they're crossbones i think

[fathom girder]

I literally do that

but the orbs

THE ORBS

[deft lily]

golem?

[radiant sparrow]

i just dont even know what the fuck im getting hit by most of the time dude

[fathom girder]

it's overwhelming

[dull heart]

I should make CV dark energy all share one HP bae

[dusk bronze]

yes

[deft lily]

true

[urban star]

It’s the only boss in the game that sucks you

[dull heart]

No longer DPS racing them

[urban star]

Yes

[dull heart]

It would make CV significantly harder but more interesting

[jagged cliff]

Old duke also sucks the player

[tight karma]

You shoud make them all explode in a small instakill AOE when they die

[rich ginkgo]

remove dark energy and just turn it into a massive shield

[urban star]

I’d rather it be harder and fairer than easier but unfair

[rich ginkgo]

id imagine a portal is supposed to be more defensive

maybe it could be more puzzle-like

something unique

[jagged cliff]

maybe the dark energy surrounds you and then homes in on you

so you need to kill them or else you get hit

[urban star]

I’d rather ceaseless void just be a ceaseless void and that’s it

[jagged cliff]

same hp though

[dusk bronze]

booooooooooooooo

[fathom girder]

why does CV need the orbs that rotate around it that cause me an aneurism to try and dodge

[dull heart]

That what the fight basically has been for years

[fathom girder]

like axe those

make him interesting idk

[dull heart]

because they're cool

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

ngl not really

[fathom girder]

It is brain of cthulhu 2

[rich ginkgo]

lol

[jagged cliff]

yes but if you don't kill them you will have a guaranteed hit

[urban star]

They move weirdly

[tight karma]

But seriously, if i'd want something changed about CV its probably the weird tripple lasers. They just move very weird because how long they are @dull heart

[dull heart]

not really

[jagged cliff]

so you can't just ROD away

[versed heart]

Triple the player base because one minor boss with interesting potential and not the best fight gets removed

[dusk bronze]

true

[urban star]

That’s what I said

[deft lily]

i think ceasless void should be given hands

[radiant sparrow]

how am i supposed to see man

[deft lily]

that fucking grab you

and crush you

[rich ginkgo]

is that sepulcher

[deft lily]

vibe check if youwill

[sudden cairn]

where is bro

[rich ginkgo]

wtf is bro doing here

[jagged cliff]

just go in a straight line

[rich ginkgo]

😭

dude are you fighting scal too

that might be why

[grim pecan]

metastasis

[rich ginkgo]

i can literally see sepulcher and its hearts

[grim pecan]

summons sep

[jagged cliff]

sepulcher weapon dude

[sudden cairn]

IS THAT CALAMITAS'S WORM

[rich ginkgo]

oh wtf

[dusk bronze]

metaphor staff

[rich ginkgo]

i didnt know there's a sepulcher weapon

[grim pecan]

kilometer staff

[jagged cliff]

calarpity

[halcyon seal]

No way they added the devourer of gods staff???

[rich ginkgo]

well my point still stands you might not be able to see shit because you have your own sepulcher

[urban star]

You need to sacrifice the cosmic worm staff to the witch

[sudden cairn]

is this death mode

[hard copper]

wtf is a kilometer

[jagged cliff]

its an alright weapon

[dusk bronze]

yeah, void eater marionette

[tight karma]

Id never surrender my worm. He plays fetch

[jagged cliff]

I'm confused by that name

Is it planned to be reworked still

or is the void eater "marionette" just a worm

[dusk bronze]

it was reworked

[jagged cliff]

i know that

but its still just the same weapon with an out of place name

[dusk bronze]

the name is fine?

good even

[jagged cliff]

I like the name

Its just that a worm doesn't really tell me that it's a marionette

[fierce hearth]

It's a puppeted worm, hence "marionette"

[jagged cliff]

It'd be cool if it had some strings or something

[dusk bronze]

worms can be marionettes

[tight karma]

After my Mage playtroough i gotta say tho, Vivid Clarity was hella underwhelming Maybe i used it wrong but man it got outclassed by Void Vortex easily

[dusk bronze]

no it just sucks

[dense sundial]

Okay not everything has to be completely literal

[inner timber]

vivid is dogshit im afraid

[tight karma]

I see

[inner timber]

apologies for your experience

[jagged cliff]

I remember my first calamitas kill was with vivid clarity

[inner timber]

use eternity it's cooler

[jagged cliff]

made revengeance calamitas feel way harder

[inner timber]

since you're postgame anyways

subsuming vortex is alright and also looks cooler

but isnt postgame so isn't as epic as eternity im afraid

[tight karma]

I just used Void Vortex, and for Avatar i used Dance of Light

[hard copper]

okay but what if dog worm on a string

[dusk bronze]

wait true

[radiant sparrow]

i just cant fucking see

like its not even fucking hard i cant see the attacks dude

[inner timber]

who fighting

[tight karma]

Are you on revengence or death?

[radiant sparrow]

exo mechs

[jagged cliff]

dude summoner is just visual slop

[radiant sparrow]

rev

[inner timber]

oh exos

[jagged cliff]

honestly just use a less intensive summon

[dusk bronze]

they're using metastasis also

[inner timber]

was metastasis changed visually i remember it just being a big worm

[jagged cliff]

its still a big worm

[dusk bronze]

unchanged

[chrome totem]

Draedon labs got real, ngl

[inner timber]

use critter shampoo and invisible or twilight dye for far less visual clutter (assuming invis works)

[chrome totem]

There goes my skill of making lab themed bases look decent 🥀

[jagged cliff]

i think theres invisible dye

nvm i didnt see that

[inner timber]

resending this so i can look at it

why is everything purple are you in a blood moon

[jagged cliff]

ngl this isn't even that bad

[inner timber]

nah this is pretty abysmal visual clarity

[jagged cliff]

Its pretty decent game design

[inner timber]

die

[jagged cliff]

Its not that bad

[tight karma]

Start with Ares. (he has a very VERY simple moveset you can just dodge by moving left right left etc.

After hes done you will have Adrenaline up for the Eyes and Thanatos. When they all 3 appear, move UP-Left or UP-RIGHT in a straight line. They will miss you 99% of the time if you are fast enough. When you go back down, FALL not Glide to the bottom left, bottom right. Same reason. This will make that tripple phase really really easy and consistent

[sudden cairn]

ares first is the way to go

just make a long ahh platform

[jagged cliff]

you don't want ares paired with the exotwins

[sudden cairn]

and walk in one direction

[jagged cliff]

thanatos and exotwins is bearable though

[hard copper]

Does that work when its just ares? I thought the laser has more vertical motion when its just him

[tight karma]

he can, but he announces it like 5 seconds before he does it

[sudden cairn]

kinda works with thanatos too

ares is just changing directions

[twin mural]

Thanatos solo is like the break in middle of the fight

[tight karma]

Jeah its a free full heal if you have Radiance

The hardest part for me was final phase Thanatos laser prediction because i kept accidentally dashing into him But otherwise i just let him coil around me during that and dashed out

[sudden cairn]

thanatos is pretty simple at the end you just have to tank his body dmg when he coils around you

[tight karma]

Exactly what i did xD

Amalgamated Brain be blessed. Absolutely insane acessory

[pliant shoal]

Has anyone else noticed that the Scions Curio speaks to you when your afk?

[radiant sparrow]

i actually reeaaally dont like this boss man

[dusk bronze]

ozzabucks

[halcyon seal]

old duke wants to speak

[versed heart]

What boss?

[sudden cairn]

pretty sure he means exo mechs

[fathom girder]

he yaps yeah

[versed heart]

That would check out

[tight karma]

Exos do be a wall

[hard copper]

Why yharims gift

[jagged cliff]

yo what is that gem

[radiant sparrow]

you got any recommendations?

[tight karma]

gimme a sec gotta check the name

[hard copper]

Chalice of the blood god imo

[jagged cliff]

rampart of deities

[dusk bronze]

chalice better

[jagged cliff]

chalice is sans undertale

so its kind of lame

rampart of deities is for nostalgiapilled calamity players

[tight karma]

Also, i would probably rather use alamgamated brain instead of Sponge

[jagged cliff]

when it was actually a meta option

[jagged cliff]

sponge is objectively better

its like a secondary radiance imo

[pliant shoal]

I always thought of chalice as an earthbound thing, then I realized sans is just copying earthbound

[dusk bronze]

hm i wonder who made undertale

[jagged cliff]

tobias undertale man

[tight karma]

Ascendant insignia also really helps in that fight imo

[pliant shoal]

funny halloween hack man

[jagged cliff]

oh yeah you can use the community

thats if you maxed it out

[sudden cairn]

i used statis void sash for for the dodge and it also has insane dash distance

[jagged cliff]

whats wrong with community

more flight time

[dusk bronze]

turbo ultra mid

[jagged cliff]

thats the point

its all around mid

[tight karma]

But amalgamated brain deals INSANE damage to multitarget things like exo mechs

[sudden cairn]

oh

[dusk bronze]

there's a million better options

[fleet mortar]

How do I get the orange version of Xyk's blessing?

[jagged cliff]

Its all around good if you only need a little bit more flight time during exos

[dusk bronze]

right click it

[jagged cliff]

No point of using ascendant in that fight

[grand mirage]

Right click it in your inventory

[tight karma]

In that case i would probably rathe ruse ascendant insignia. A lot more flight time and the accelleratioon multiplier go brr

[dusk bronze]

why in god's name would you need more flight time with wings of rebirth

[jagged cliff]

person could be too mechanically unskilled to use a hook to refresh flight time

right after thanatos and twins phase

[dusk bronze]

simply Land

[sudden cairn]

right click

[jagged cliff]

landing is guaranteed damage

since you are moving down

staying at the same position is really convenient during the mecha mayhem phase

[dusk bronze]

which you can take if you use a survivability accessory instead

[tight karma]

Also, if there is space left i can only recommend the Calamity (the accessory). Exo mechs are glued to your screen so you have maximum uptime of the damage and the multiplier

[jagged cliff]

little bit more flight time goes a long way during mecha mayhem, and community gives all around buffs + the improved flight time

its a viable option

also 2 life regen is pretty good

[radiant sparrow]

so fuckig close, fat fuck worm

[tight karma]

I love this thing so much, even on non summoner.

[jagged cliff]

oh i forgot they buffed the amalgam

i was so wrong mb

300% elemental debuff can go crazy

ngl

[tight karma]

tbf i said "Amalgamated Brain" which is the one a tier below

[jagged cliff]

Yeah its pretty trash now since it doesn't scale into post ML

or later hardmode

[tight karma]

Still used it because i could not be bothered fishing frog legs

[jagged cliff]

bum legs

just use a jetpack if you want good vertical speed

[tight karma]

Ez grav potion strats. No need for accessory slots

[jagged cliff]

thats cheese

ngl I did cheese masdeath twins with a jetpack

same with skeletron prime

[tight karma]

I killed Yharon with the Star Beam Rye Phantasmal Fury thing, because man i just cant be bothered with that boss ngl

farmed i mean

i killed him first normaly

[jagged cliff]

a casual 300k damage

[tranquil hinge]

im starting to miss wing bonuses

[jagged cliff]

I remember I saw Yardis do his malice mode devourer of gods first try

cause he killed it in like 3 seconds

[rare tinsel]

it's fine
it's worth losing them if it means we get the peak of spectre wings

[jagged cliff]

I'm starting to unmiss wing bonuses

[radiant sparrow]

there we go. as i said not hard just fuckign visual garbagwe

[tight karma]

I dont know, everytime i see something in a Yardis video it shreds everything, but if i do the exact same setup in my world it doesnt even come close

[jagged cliff]

The devs are going to revert the changes cause the community brought it up enough times

[elfin musk]

What

[rare tinsel]

this is the first time i'm hearing anyone mentioning wing bonuses

[elfin musk]

They removed wing bonuses?

[sudden cairn]

yes

[rare tinsel]

yeah

[rare tinsel]

angel wings got shot out back

[granite sapphire]

Idm the wing changes aside from angel honestly

Also there's too much math

[elfin musk]

Fairy wings 💔

[rare tinsel]

it's a shame we lost the only wing with a stat bonus 😔

what'll we do without angel wings

[deft lily]

we kill

(idk)

[rare tinsel]

the joke is that wing bonuses did absolutely nothing

they're 100% placebo

[deft lily]

figured

[rare tinsel]

steampunks, mothrons and angels were decent

oh yeah and bees

[granite sapphire]

Tarragon wings are the only reason I used tarragon armor

[rare tinsel]

they're the bees knees

tarragon wings were broken as hell

they were going to get nerfed super hard in The Flattening

The Great Defense Purge

[severe coral]

You should totally be able to pet the Void Eater Marionette when it's in fetch mode

[granite sapphire]

I mean I would understand like halving the buffs but removing all wing Stats entirely was a bit much, aside from the set bonus wings

[rare tinsel]

no, set bonus wings died too

the lunar wings are an exception

[granite sapphire]

I know that

[rare tinsel]

Oh I misread

sorrgy

[granite sapphire]

I just wish they kept some standalone wings like steampunk and mothron

[rare tinsel]

some wings are relevant on their own just due to standout stats

notably Spectre

[granite sapphire]

Now aureate booster is like the only good option till the post golem boss rusb

[rare tinsel]

Spectre wings and painting equipment are the only things that'll make me make spectre bars

[cinder mural]

burrower jumpscare
is there a way i can keep it?

[rare tinsel]

And they deserve it! Spectres fuckin' rock

[granite sapphire]

oh yeah post golem is so cluttered

[rare tinsel]

post-plantera and post-golem are pretty cluttered

[granite sapphire]

Not only for the lore to retier ravager, but also to just make the area more breathable

[rare tinsel]

spoopy wings are pretty much just worse than tattered fairy

[tight karma]

Gotta kill it before it skedaddles away

[rare tinsel]

which i guess is warranted considering how spoopy wings are easier to get

[cinder mural]

grenades it is

[granite sapphire]

Also why do bone wings exist?

[cinder mural]

nvm

it ran away

[granite sapphire]

Look cool as hell but are garbage

[cinder mural]

:c

[granite sapphire]

I mean if you no hit

[rare tinsel]

bone wings have standout flight time

[granite sapphire]

They're great

but aside from that

[rare tinsel]

Flight time isn't the most important stat in the world imo

[tight karma]

I do wish there was a option to get the Xyk's Blessing wings but without the suits

[granite sapphire]

It isn't, i can agree but it definitely is an important one

[cursive fjord]

this

[rare tinsel]

but bone wings are neato

we like gimmicks

[granite sapphire]

No we dont

We love them

[rare tinsel]

🎉

[tight karma]

Just dont get hit

[rare tinsel]

even if you do get hit it only halves your current flight time

[granite sapphire]

I mean even then bone wings are cool, but same tier mothron are more reliable to get and steampunk is right after

I got like 4 bone feathers from 3500 dungeon enemies

With a ton of luck boosts too

Omnistation, Gnome, Galaxy Pearl, Greater Luck

And all lucky at the time

[rare tinsel]

And you can just craft wings

spectres, spookies, aureate booster

[tight karma]

Better than getting a Rod of Discord AFTER you already beat everything. Wouldt be me right? Right?

[granite sapphire]

Since I usually just use lucky loadouts pre polter

[rare tinsel]

not even warding???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

how is that possible

[granite sapphire]

I prefer warding on dog and later

[cursive fjord]

warding is mid

[severe coral]

oml he's so cute

[granite sapphire]

Though for my mage run I tried out the invigorating post dog

[rare tinsel]

idk man i look away from the screen for a split second and BOO suddenly warding jumpscare

[granite sapphire]

Melee was Warding
Ranged was Dauntless
Mage was Invigorating
Summoner might be menacing or Warding as well

[rare tinsel]

idk how it happens I'm like, hypnotized into getting 200 HP and breaking an orb

[rare tinsel]

i don't think there's enough difference between the classes to justify a really different reforge for all of them

they all benefit from warding equally as much (which is like, a lot)

[cursive fjord]

Y'all reforge your stuff?

[granite sapphire]

Also would devils Devastation right click be considered true melee?

[granite sapphire]

You don't????

[cursive fjord]

not rlly

[granite sapphire]

I think invigorating on a bloodflare or nebula armor mage is pretty strong

[cursive fjord]

Ive been handling death mode fine so far without bothering myself with that

[rare tinsel]

Invigorating is strong period

[hard copper]

Invigorating sounds better than warding ngl, depends on how often you get hit though

[granite sapphire]

Health Regen is just overpowered

[rare tinsel]

It depends on the game segment

yeah regen is pretty 👍

[granite sapphire]

And the stacks...

[rare tinsel]

I heard from some pretty skilled players that later in the game (deep post-ml when fights are long and damage values are high) Invigorating wins out

But in shorter fights with weaker attacks Warding is preferred

[granite sapphire]

Potion
Campfire
Lantern
Bloodflare Set
Claret Cannon
Invigorating

[cursive fjord]

the best stat if you don't get hit every 10 seconds

lol

[rare tinsel]

uh

if you get hit more often than every ten seconds you kinda need regen to not die horribly

[cursive fjord]

[granite sapphire]

I also do prefer claret rework

And blood boiler

Before they were meh

[rare tinsel]

i have a clip of pre-nerf fat strats facetanking the hell out of polterghast, HP zipping from full to empty to full over and over

[granite sapphire]

I was regenerating like... 20 a second while moving on scal

[rare tinsel]

yeah Auric Tesla is characterized by its impressively strong regen

Fearmonger's identity is "holy regen"

[granite sapphire]

I wasn't using the normal tesla either

I eas using the catalyst dps Tesla

[rare tinsel]

no difference

[granite sapphire]

Pretty sure it's just the less defensive buff from tarragon

[rare tinsel]

i think catalyst's auric tesla+ only offers lifesteal

No, you compensate with lifesteal

[cursive fjord]

gives a bit more armor as well

[granite sapphire]

ah

[hard copper]

I think warding would be better if you get hit often, it would reduce damage taken by about 5 per hit, were as invigorating takes 10 seconds to heal that 5 health. So if you get hit more often then every 10 seconds then warding would be better

[granite sapphire]

If you get hit often warding is iffy

[rare tinsel]

If you get hit often then warding is like, textbook

[granite sapphire]

Defense damage can like incinerate you

It does with everything

[sturdy thistle]

Why is vengeful sun staff so broken

[hard copper]

Defense damage goes away after like a second doesnt it?

[rare tinsel]

defense damage only applies on the more dangerous attacks

[rare tinsel]

Yes but if you get more defense damage whilst already having some, it will recover more slowly

Additionally it does not recover during invincibility frames

[hard copper]

Ah ok

[rare tinsel]

Normally it recovers at a rate of 60 per second, I think

[sturdy thistle]

I just got a 2:37 moonlord with vengeful sun staff tester gear ripperless

This is a pre plantera weapon

I WASN'T USING A WHIP

[granite sapphire]

So basically the average framerate of the player

[rare tinsel]

yeah, 1/tick

[sturdy thistle]

With kaleidescope was able to get it down to 2:18

[granite sapphire]

That's pretty healthy

[sturdy thistle]

Vengeful sun staff is uh

Sliiiiiiiiiiiightly broken

[cursive fjord]

I like my high fps support mod doe

[rare tinsel]

But if you go to my YouTube channel (like and subscribe) you can see a few clips where defense damage requires several seconds

[rare tinsel]

highFPS support doesn't change game logic

[sturdy thistle]

For context
The tester gear ripperless killtime for moonlord for a balanced post cultist weapon

Is supposed to be 4 minutes

[granite sapphire]

Bloodstone Core seems a lot more appealing (despite being outclassed by it's ancestor)

[cursive fjord]

Idk if it changes anything

[rare tinsel]

bloodflare core?

bfc is very sexy

[granite sapphire]

Yeah

[rare tinsel]

Omega Blue strats kinda demand it

[granite sapphire]

Omega Blue...

[rare tinsel]

bfc is very solid, possibly healing more damage than you take

(i will die on the hill that blood pact is awful)

[stark quail]

wtf is this bruh

[granite sapphire]

Blood Pact isn't bad but it's not necessarily the best for offensive loadouts so

[cursive fjord]

Ofc a donator item

[elfin musk]

Terra-Toilet 2.0

[granite sapphire]

It's a defensive thing but even then

You shouldn't use it unless you're using chalice

[rare tinsel]

Oh yeah, PactChalice can warrant it

[granite sapphire]

Got nothing on the toilet of eternity

[rare tinsel]

But without it I can't really fathom it being used OUTSIDE of offensive loadouts

I used it once before because the extra max HP let me take more damage in one gambit so I could spend more time attacking before needing to retreat to recover

[granite sapphire]

I think ive used blood Pact unironically like four times or so when I first started calamity on infernum

[rare tinsel]

i think i did too

[granite sapphire]

Since I did think 25% was a huge amount, but not considering calamity scaling

[rare tinsel]

young me probably looked at it and thought "omg huge number"

[granite sapphire]

But Hallowed enchant and blood Pact are NOT the same

[rare tinsel]

LOL on souls?????????

[granite sapphire]

Just comparing

[rare tinsel]

yeah

[granite sapphire]

Hallowed enchant one of the sexiest enchants in Masoftw

[tight karma]

Too bad that lifesteal wont help because the particle effects will give every boss the abillity to go invisible /s

[rare tinsel]

Shrug

you'll hit for 3500 damage and lifesteal will go on cooldown for the next two minutes

[granite sapphire]

Life steal cooldowns takes longer to recharge than it takes for my grandmother to read a 20 word message

[rare tinsel]

real

[tight karma]

Still dont know how lifesteal works in this game exactly

[granite sapphire]

Neither do i

[tight karma]

I guess its like -90% if a boss is alive?

[granite sapphire]

Though gilded Proboscis is great lifesteal

I miss the old Proboscis though

[rare tinsel]

It's pretty shrimple

[granite sapphire]

The right click of this one is really janky with momentum and the left click is rarely reliable with how wobbly providence is

[rare tinsel]

You heal from lifesteal? A hidden Lifesteal variable increments by that amount, times some other secret value which depends on the source of the lifesteal

That lifesteal variable will decrement by a certain amount every frame, based on difficulty.

[tight karma]

So its not shrimple

[granite sapphire]

I miss seeing real life magic tricks

Like that time a woman turned a parking ticket into several felony charges

[rare tinsel]

If it increments above a certain value, you'll still heal, but lifesteal will go on cooldown until it decrements below that value.

Consider it 'loaning' health from the future

[tight karma]

Man... i just want Healthbar go brrr :c

[granite sapphire]

Or that time a guy got charged $10 for not having his seatbelt on and committed a federal crime

[rare tinsel]

no idea what it is on revengence mode now but

prior to brainstorm, on expert/death, lifesteal would decrement by 6 HP/s

[rare tinsel]

So... assuming the source's secret value was 1x... you could heal, on average, 6 HP/s.

[granite sapphire]

I wonder how much regeneration it would take to outlive every calamity Debuffs at once

[radiant sparrow]

how does the flamsteed ring work?

[tight karma]

So tldr, if i want battlehealing instead of going lifesteal i should bring a heartreach potion and worm food.

[rare tinsel]

thumbsup~2

heart statues are really funny too

[granite sapphire]

Also I mourn for the old Ursa sergeant, but the new one is great for no hitters

Also the chain on enemy deaths OH MY GOD.

[rare tinsel]

in clamity it's theoretically possible to get 15000 hp/s from heart statues

[solid gale]

I miss my 20 defense

[granite sapphire]

Calamity should add an accessory where you combine 100 shiny stones and a shadowspec bar and if you put it on you only heal while standing still but you heal Graham's number multiplied by pi per second

But if you move Ultimately Evil Johnathan will obliterate you with a palm wood door

It also has curse of binding so you can't take it off

[tight karma]

The Lazhar removal is still a crime imo

[granite sapphire]

Nanopurge still exists so it's kinda fine

[radiant sparrow]

am i stupid? the flamsteed rign doesnt do anything but turn me into a mech???

wheres my attacks

[granite sapphire]

Who wants to gamble when Im older, specifically on time related bets

How long I'll be at the DMV for my first time

[blazing field]

i can see why they removed it

not only is it a post-pillars heat ray upgrade, whihc

is extremely trivial and uencessary imo

But the functionality itself seems pretty uninteresting

wouldnt know since i didnt use it but like

it just sounds like

heat gun

[granite sapphire]

It WAS an unoriginal weapon, but it was also good

[rare tinsel]

lazhar removal is a sin because it's LIHZAHRD TECH

[blazing field]

but faster

and with a tiny dust aoe

[rare tinsel]

they STOLE it and then FORGOT IT like some kinda TRASH

[granite sapphire]

Lazhar was great... I miss it

[blazing field]

icl i will never understand the mindset of "this weapon was strong so removing it was bad"

maybe its because i just never cared about the difficulty or meta aspect of terraria much but from my experience you can like

beat any boss with anything most of the time

[granite sapphire]

I just think a rework would've been better

Nobody uses the fucking heat ray

People used the lazhar

Which requires the heat ray

[blazing field]

i mean use the heat ray then i dont think its a bad weapon. atleast its not in vanilla idk about calamity

or just use any other mage weapon

im sure theres plenty that work well for that stage of progression

would be surprised if there weren't

[tight karma]

For me the Lazhar was just a iconic weapon. It was the upgrade to the Heat ray, which in base Terraria was known to be THE destroyer murder weapon. (less than a second kills even before 1.3)

[distant raft]

didnt it just

not have pierce

oh that was a 1.4 change

what the fuck

[blazing field]

i didnt know either heat ray or lahzar were iconic weapons i cant lie

[distant raft]

also yeah same

[blazing field]

when i think of iconc weapon i think of like

[granite sapphire]

I think a reworked Lazhar could simply have been left click to heat up the gun, and after enough energy it overheats and right click disperses the heated energy in a single powerful beam, like a non homing spectralstorm

[blazing field]

terra blade

megashark

nights edge

[distant raft]

last prism

[blazing field]

So like

this is just a charged weapon

[distant raft]

not fucking heat ray and heat ray but again

[blazing field]

this is just a fairly standard charge-up weapon

You don't even need 2 different firing modes for this

[granite sapphire]

but different

[blazing field]

not really

[granite sapphire]

The powerful ray

Has bad accuracy

Shitty even

[blazing field]

that odsen't really change that it's a fairly standard charge-up weapon

[granite sapphire]

Worse accuracy than an ohko in pokemon

[blazing field]

not saying that those are necessarily bad

charge-up weapons can be cool

but thats not like particularly creative either

[granite sapphire]

Apoctosis Ray

Or whatever it's called

ion blaster

[blazing field]

Like it just seems like a pretty uninteresting and unecessary weapon to me

[tight karma]

But then Purge Guzzler should also be scheduled for removal, since its literally just the lazhar but 3 beams

[blazing field]

upgrade to a weapon that you can get to like

immediately after you get said weapon

[granite sapphire]

Also I know the devs are working on specifically calamity items and bosses, but also reworking some of the vanilla weapons that are left in the dust

Like nettleburst

Leafblower

[blazing field]

if you want a upgrade to the lazhar atleast make it like

[tight karma]

nvm the purge guzzler apparently also got reworked this update

[blazing field]

not literally immediately after you get it

[cinder mural]

is this a new weapon?

[blazing field]

you just need solar fragments to upgrade it

[granite sapphire]

I mean post yharon makes the most sense for it

[tight karma]

Yep

[blazing field]

yeah

[granite sapphire]

Heat Ray and Yharon Soul Fragments with Auric Bars and Solar Fragments

[cinder mural]

aight

[granite sapphire]

A forgettable vanilla weapon brought back post yharon as a railcannon

OH WAIT

For it

Be really slow

But shoot infinitely piercing giant lasers

Like the freaking

Fargo's weapon for ranger

I don't remenber

But it's really good

but also like

[cinder mural]

i'm just playing ranger

[blazing field]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Aetherflux_Cannon

There literally exists a post yharon mage weapon that fires a giant laser already

[tight karma]

Id rather have it stay similar, but apply "molten" to enemies that reduces defense by a %

[granite sapphire]

No, like MASSIVE laser

[blazing field]

[tight karma]

[granite sapphire]

Freaking, cover 1/6 of the screen laser

and it deals like

more damage than the thread

but costs like a shit ton of mana and really sloe

[blazing field]

yeah it also instakills every enemy in one hit and leaks your ip address

[granite sapphire]

thread already infinitely pierced and is slow

This is just a post yharon one that is twice as slow and does 20% more damage

Or more idk

[blazing field]

idk what thread is

[granite sapphire]

it's not like Thanatos is surviving any good mage weapon anyways if that's what devs are worried about

[granite sapphire]

Thread of Eradication

The post dog bow

[blazing field]

the devourer bow

oh okay

wiki dosnt seem to be updated

[granite sapphire]

the TOE

[vestal osprey]

Still got a ways on that

[granite sapphire]

(they didn't think the abbreviation through)

[blazing field]

Yeah i assume it just hasnt gotten to it yet

[tight karma]

I just did a mage platrough and Thanatos was by far the meatiest of the exos for me. You cant worm him like destroyer. Only his lit up part will take more than 1 damage

[granite sapphire]

I love Toes right

Thread of Eradication

lmao

[cinder mural]

ok
lol
first emeral crawler i stumble upon
i got xyk's item

[hot wadi]

Is the vengeful sun staff decreasing FPS a known bug?
-# MY PC!!!!!!!

[granite sapphire]

I assume you weren't using primordial earth as support and a good splash/pierce

[balmy bison]

is void of calamity and bloody worm scarf better than warbanner of the sun and badge of bravery

[hot wadi]

I summon it ONE time and m FPS is capped to 30-40ish

[granite sapphire]

The rift beam staff from dog shreds thanatos, at good angles it annihilates him

Along with the fact he's underneath you or coiling you, that range doesnt need much aimung

[white aurora]

that's not exclusive to just mage tho

[granite sapphire]

well duh

[tight karma]

I used the Yharon Last Prism thingy but then switched back to vehemence

[granite sapphire]

it's just a convenient niche for mage

[tight karma]

But i just read on the wiki that Yhorims Crystal specificly deals only 60% damage to thanatos. That explains a lot lmao

[wide iron]

Hi, i just wanna ask if the previus fight against skeletron (the fight against the three mechs at ones) that was in deathmode is in malice now?
I don't play calamity since november and i just finish my run in deathmode

Great update btw kisses to the developers!

[sinful dagger]

Yo is blade staff still a queen slime drop 😮‍💨

[granite sapphire]

Yea

[tepid skiff]

why can i not change boss health and respawn time in my multiplayer world when im the host

[sinful dagger]

Run 6 it is then

[sturdy thistle]

Damn, not even kaleidescope can make it provi viable

Still an insane showing for a Pre-Plantera weapon

[acoustic talon]

So whats the meta now? do people run the ankh shield AND the asgards valor line orrrrrrr

[sturdy thistle]

No?

Why would you ever do that

Ankh is a scam

[acoustic talon]

Why would it be a scam

[lean cave]

debuff immunity is mid

[dull heart]

what does it do that's useful

[plain pagoda]

was reaver armor reworked or something why am i not doing less damage

[dull heart]

Debuff immunity is very niche

[lean cave]

it really isn't all the helpful often

[dull heart]

Yes

It was

[plain pagoda]

oh cool

im slow now tho

[dull heart]

it always did that

it always cut movement and flight speed

[hot wadi]

query, is the Vengeful Sun Staff FPS bug known
and will the same thing happen to Sirius & Saros Possession

[dull heart]

fps bug?

[plain pagoda]

i havent played melee in ages so i probably dont remember

hellkite is fun

[hot wadi]

Me and 2 others have put it down in #1052323733961977947

[acoustic talon]

welp

[dull heart]

??? what on earth

[acoustic talon]

i guess il try running without the ankh shield then

[charred merlin]

can anyone confirm that vanilla bosses no longer have any expert/master mode changes

[tropic jolt]

I think this is true, calamity no longer changes vanilla bosses unless you enable a calamity difficulty

[charred merlin]

alr

[granite sapphire]

You should Photoshop a what on it

[tropic jolt]

maybe

[sinful dagger]

I got it on the seventh kill for a 1/3 drop

Thanks rng

[tropic jolt]

rule 1 of terraria: whatever item you are specifically farming for is always ten times rarer than advertised

[sinful dagger]

Thankfully I took a graduate level statistics class so I can actually compute how unlucky I am

[granite sapphire]

And if you're not looking for it, you immediately get it

(first elemental rod of discord)

[sinful dagger]

From the Cumulative Distribution Function of a Geometric Distribution

[cinder mural]

unwritten rule
but always

[acoustic talon]

omg bruh i was doing my yearly playthrough of playing all terraria classes

i was half done and now i gotta restart lololol

[sinful dagger]

There was a 6% chance of taking that long to get it

[deft lily]

whar

oh
the weapons name
is the earth
Isnt it

[tropic jolt]

yes

[deft lily]

no further questions

[gusty raptor]

is there a way to increase visibility in the abyss

this flashlight is making it insufferable

[misty wren]

layer 3 and 4 torches

[dusk bronze]

you cannot circumvent the flashlight aside from spamming torches

thermal and void torches specifically

[dull heart]

Many ways, check the pins

I made a guide on everything that boosts your light

[manic fox]

is tarragon better than solar flare now?

[spring aspen]

Is Brimmy ever getting a more modest resprite?

[misty wren]

just more defensive afaik

[misty wren]

planned yes

[manic fox]

solar flare:

tarragon:

there's gotta be something I'm missing

i remember when tarragon used to be ass

[dull heart]

Has been for years

Solar is better for the dash and DR shields if you want them

Otherwise tarragon is just better

[manic fox]

hmm well I havent played for years

so that checks out

[surreal glacier]

Solar did used to be busted but idk

Solar got nerfed, Tarragon got buffed(?), and now Solar is just strictly worse statwise for basically everything

[arctic cliff]

oh my god

[winged forge]

is tarragon better than bloodflare

[arctic cliff]

finally, the post-solar flare armor is actually better than the solar flare armor in stats

[misty wren]

no

[surreal glacier]

real

I remember when Solar was like

Meta up until Auric tier??

[misty wren]

i remember the good old days when melee literally never took off solar flare because melee speed

[surreal glacier]

It was either comparable to or better than God Slayer for some time iirc

[deft lily]

i remember the goold old days when

[cinder mural]

i too remember the days when

[surreal glacier]

me too bro me too

[dull heart]

I miss beetle armor being on par with auric

[cinder mural]

wait

really?

bettle armor was on par with it?

[dull heart]

For a long time it was yes

[cinder mural]

was it because of the passive?

[dull heart]

Until we removed beetle might melee speed

[cinder mural]

ah

darn

[arctic cliff]

wait

cal lore had to rewrite its lore about the mech bosses to reference the fact that they drop souls

they also wrote about stars falling

so whats the lore implication of golem dropping... beetle shells?

[vestal osprey]

Lihzards put beetles in the golem

[misty wren]

it just kinda does that

[arctic cliff]

also

these beetle shells give you some absurdly good armor

what are these beetles

should we be glad that we dont actually fight the beetles that these shells originate from?

[fast wren]

Guys do you know what time it is

[grave geyser]

halfed it not removed

if it was removed beetle would be so ass

[fathom girder]

tarragon when beetle scale set walks in:

[fast wren]

It’s time to get Whimsical!

[arctic cliff]

"Slime God Goozma is the most powerful once they absorb all slimes into themselves" my butt
what about the golem beetle husk beetles

[cinder mural]

if i want to assume

[dull heart]

He ate bug

[dusk bronze]

is that a bedbuge

[arctic cliff]

i suspect they went extinct, otherwise where else would these beetles be

or

[barren nacelle]

Golem has bugs in his skin

[fathom girder]

They shoved some beetles in him when the lizhards made him

[arctic cliff]

mayhap, they originate from Yharim's continent

otherwise why would he be so strong

[fathom girder]

just kinda. stuffed em in his eyes

[arctic cliff]

you heard me

[fathom girder]

couple in his arms

[cinder mural]

that was draedon's fault for making the plaguebringer goliath, and by forced evolution, beetles evolved, now having stupidly great resistance
/j.

[arctic cliff]

its not his bond with yhar the ON and his strength its him having to coexist with these beetles

[radiant sparrow]

ngl i think auric stuff should be more themed around dragons, would that even make sense?

[dusk bronze]

wait cook

[fathom girder]

auric isn't dragon it's just

energy

[radiant sparrow]

it says its infused with long lost draconic energies

also does use dragon soul fragments to craft the bars

[distant raft]

that second part is because you're unworthy

the soul fragments are used to perform a mock attunement to make the shit not instantly slaughter you when you touch it

[radiant sparrow]

hence the dragon theme. please let me into the kitchen

[fathom girder]

It's a bandaid

[dusk bronze]

why wouldn't the terrarian make dragon metal look like dragon

it's hype as fuck

[fathom girder]

IT'S NOT DRAGON METAL IT'S JUST METAL

...WITH DRAGON TAPED ON IT

[hoary edge]

a metal infused with draconic energy