calamity-update-talk

[dusk bronze]

wtf is jopojelly even doing, checklist shoulda been fixed months ago

[kindred token]

it Checklist actually broken rn

[west ledge]

disabling checklist fixed it

[unreal shuttle]

use checklist lite

[west ledge]

but summoners associations still broken

[dull heart]

Yes

[dull heart]

Working for relogic or something idk

[dusk bronze]

at least delist the mod if you know it's broken but can't fix it 😭

[west ledge]

well may aswell ask

[tropic jolt]

I cant believe jopojelly created the entirety of 1.4.5 by themselves

[west ledge]

does anyone here have summoners association

i wanna know if its just me thats having this issue with the new upd

[cedar coral]

i wish there was boss checklist but in the format of a separate npc, kinda like in (UNC ALERT) elements awoken

[kindred token]

I assume Calamity Whips addon would not be advisable right now?

[west ledge]

wierdly enough summoners association seems to just be broken for 1 character and i have no clue why

[young notch]

oh hey i have a dono item in that mod

[dusk bronze]

ok grandpa

[young notch]

I only used calamity, calamity music, and summoner ui in my first playthrough

I added hammer mode for brainstorm

[honest trail]

[west ledge]

okay so nvm boss checklist didnt fix my bug

ima just go through and turn off some mods that i dont need that might be incompatible

[cedar coral]

elements awoken was my favorite mod in 1.3.5.3 for a while

[meager rain]

has the brainstorm update delayed the release of the sunken sea overhaul update

[dusk bronze]

yes

[blazing field]

well yes but no

[west ledge]

sunken sea launches this year tho right

[blazing field]

sso is delayed

but it isnt rly because of brainstorm

[dusk bronze]

probably not

[west ledge]

oh well i can wait

[blazing field]

sunken sea is probably not going to be the next update anymore

[west ledge]

its not like they get paid for this its a passion project

[blazing field]

its effectively being put on hiatus

from the looks of it

[dusk bronze]

first new person that's actually reasonable?

[rotund venture]

Ye devs are sick of fish

[west ledge]

What members do you get bro 😭

[blazing field]

2 years (4 if you count pre-22) of sisyphean fish hell

[amber swallow]

whats the best mage weapon for infernum DoG?

[west ledge]

Do they all just lack common sense

[dusk bronze]

overhaul fans

[blazing field]

Sunken Cost Overhaul

[west ledge]

i see

[dusk bronze]

sunken sea fallacy

[rotund venture]

Yes

[blazing field]

sunken sea fallacy

[blazing field]

#calamity-addon-talk , probably

[amber swallow]

ok ty i just joined the dc so didnt know where to ask👍

[west ledge]

unfortunate

[rotund venture]

What would yall wanna have in the next update? Personally more arsenal reworks and aerialite reworks are thing im looking forward to

The whole sky civilization thing in general is neat

[modern rampart]

yharim

[dusk bronze]

yharon resprite or summoner rebalance

[modern rampart]

also summoner rebalance would be cool. i await the day when it's worth using your 2 summon slots on non-summoner classes like in vanilla

[dull heart]

It definitely is

already

In fact, maybe more than it is in vanilla

[modern rampart]

summoner multiclass penalty can't stay forever. we will be watching...

[dull heart]

Minions as a whole are much stronger than vanilla. Multi class Summoner will almost certainly be worse in the rebalance than it is right now

[tropic jolt]

just any new boss reworks honestly

[dull heart]

the penalty is like, not a big deal especially with good minion choice

minions that get a lot of value out of a debuff like stardust cell, for example

[tropic jolt]

and 1.4.5 port of course

[modern rampart]

also i really like the new sun spirit staff. its quite good!

[honest trail]

I think stealth rouge and multi-class match well

[dull heart]

it's probably a little too strong atm tbh but I think I cooked with that line

[arctic cliff]

imma be real, my wish is a pipe dream more than anything:
SSO desert scourge rework being instead done next update, purely because i dont want the sprite based off the work of a creep sticking around in calamity any longer

😭

its a pipe dream but yea

[regal vessel]

New armors and armor rebalances + summoner rebalance

Oh and the distortion

[honest trail]

They complement each other, so they look good together

[rotund venture]

Okay distortion is like

Waaay in the future

[dusk bronze]

probably

[rotund venture]

It is planned to be v beeg

[pseudo vector]

the distortion is still a long way out, and would probably be the single largest content update we would ever do

that's actually focussed unlike something like brainstorm

[tropic jolt]

the subworlds of doom and despair

[arctic cliff]

i know that the planned ds rework would be done for SSO becuase, well, lizard from the same sea and general location so ya

[regal vessel]

Also perenial forest

Is that still a thing

[regal vessel]

What even is it supposed to be

[arctic cliff]

dimension where dog (and apparently moon lord now, according to the new bestiary entry on him)

[tropic jolt]

purple

[regal vessel]

I thought it would just be like a small sub world

[arctic cliff]

originated from

[rotund venture]

No it will be a big subworld

[unreal shuttle]

and theoretically we would fight noxus there?

[hard copper]

tasty cosmilite liquid

[rotund venture]

With its own mobs, materials, biomes and probably minibosses

[regal vessel]

I dont like that son

[arctic cliff]

also what a fucking doozy
"Moon Lord? He's not an alien, he's an interdimensional entity"

[modern rampart]

DoG fight is in there, theoretically

[tropic jolt]

bro is NOT from the moon 😭

[arctic cliff]

although i dunno man i preferred my idea of him being an alien god trying to take over this planet as a new home for a buncha alien races displaced from their original homeworlds getting destroyed by the astral infection

[unreal shuttle]

why did fovos even attack the dragons lol

[arctic cliff]

given that he's apparently from the distortion, hes probably doing the same thing dog is doing now

which

MEANS

[modern rampart]

yoinking the world soul?

[arctic cliff]

i can now claim that Moon Lord's brother is the Devourer of Gods

[tropic jolt]

DoG was cthulhu all along

⚠️

[hard copper]

[arctic cliff]

i dunno why im not jiving with the idea of moon lord being from distortion

it just feels off for me

but then again, i know that lore writers felt that the bestiary entries they wrote shouldnt have been released rn

[hard copper]

Are both moon lord and dog extensions of noxus then? Like part of the same hive mind

[unreal shuttle]

did the bestiary entries for vanilla enemies get rewritten or soemthin

[arctic cliff]

ya

not all

but some

[unreal shuttle]

awesome

[candid basalt]

the future is now

[unreal shuttle]

my goat's deadname

[hot knot]

i think he just likes eating world souls and the dragons had pieces of terraria’s in them

also can explain why he was so powerful at his prime

[arctic cliff]

yknow the image is old when it has the deadname

[hot knot]

my personal theory

[tropic jolt]

👴

[unreal shuttle]

i would like to imagine that all events happening in calamity are just hapepning in that one singular remote island the terrarian is in and the rest of the world is just like ours

[leaden fiber]

Will malice Mode Receive further Changes? I never expected it to Return in the first place but brain of cthulu and DoG or especially DoG got many noticable Changes but no other boss really got them except for the stats, does anyone know? because i don't want to Play infernum without yharim when it comes out lmao

[tropic jolt]

I dont think brain has any malice changes

[spark kiln]

dawg

[leaden fiber]

Yeah probably doesn't i Just saw it smh being Shown more in focus mb

[tropic jolt]

malice is mostly just the joke difficulty like legendary mode and bosses wont have special changes on it unless the devs specifically decide to add some like with DoG

[leaden fiber]

Aight thanks

[cedar coral]

malice is just a name for legendary + death, i don't think malice will get any ai changes
all the ai malice uses is just death mode ai, so malice will get it too once bosses will be reworked

[blazing field]

its not just a glorified boss arena for DoG, it's more like what the nether is for minecraft

DoG is just a boss you fight on it rather than it being Made for fighting DoG

[halcyon seal]

Hold on we have vanilla bestiary entries?

[arctic cliff]

ya

[blazing field]

I doubt it

We know Noxus dosen't have complete and absolute control over the distortion

Signus exists

not Everything from the distortion is Noxus's lackey

and like

Ml is significantly stronger than nxous so 😭

Devourer though yeah i mean hes noxus's goon

his lackey even

[arctic cliff]

mind you the only reason why i suspect ml is also noxus's lackey is because what hes doing is really similar to what dog is doing

[dusk bronze]

was

[blazing field]

[raw falcon]

I genuinely cannot recall the last time I used the paladin mage hammer before the update what is that guy on about

[blazing field]

Dude if ml was noxus's servant then like

[spark kiln]

the rework is sick as fuck

[blazing field]

Noxus could've just fucking Won if it just had came in there itself too

[tribal isle]

what happened to it i like never fucking used it

[blazing field]

it's also really anticlimatic icl

[spark kiln]

unless it has really low dps now idk what they’re talking about

[cedar coral]

fans of video game modifications when the modification modifies the video game or smth idk

[tropic jolt]

the rework is so much cooler 😭

[blazing field]

Like ah yes. the mastermind behind the ml invasion is actually significantly weaker than ml for some reason

[raw falcon]

yeah people love being contrarian to be contrarian unfortunately

[dense sundial]

Even if it does, of course it’s not balanced it’s shadowspec who cares

[tropic jolt]

before it was strong yeah but a really basic weapon overall but now it goes crazy with huge attacks

[rose laurel]

And also didn't win immediately 8ecause uuuuh udk

[blazing field]

yeah like

just

ok

[raw falcon]

Doesnt prime fovos almost entirely outscale almost, if not all of calamity in terms of sheer power?

[blazing field]

if ml was noxus's lackey

noxus couldve just

went there itself

and gg

the end

calamity ends there

ml already almost won

add noxus ontop. gg. the end. no xeroc. no yharim.

[cedar coral]

i hope when noxus will be implemented it will be as cool if not cooler as AoE

[raw falcon]

Moonlord is just a random ass cosmic horror no?

[hard copper]

True, that makes sense

[rose laurel]

To 8e fair

[blazing field]

distortion

its from there

[raw falcon]

Decided to show up one day and wreck shit

[blazing field]

revealed in the bestiary rewrite

[rose laurel]

I can see a scenario where Terraria still wins

8ut the story would 8e completely different

[raw falcon]

The distortion must be fucked if moonlord came from there good grief

[dense sundial]

I hope it’s cool enough to live up to its concept

That’s really all that needs to be said

[tropic jolt]

what if the distortion is a REALLY big pylon and thats why the creatures there like teleporting so much

[blazing field]

imagine seeing a gigantic fucking tear show up on the sky and then a gigantic ricardo milos looking squid man shows up and starts aurafarming so hard every dragon in a 500 mile radius drops dead instantly

[spark kiln]

what is aoe

nvm

[unreal shuttle]

crazy how a fucking filler boss can prevent you from being eaten by "john evil"

[blazing field]

whar

[unreal shuttle]

signus is a filler boss 😭

[blazing field]

who's john evil

[unreal shuttle]

noxus

[rose laurel]

He won't 8e filler one day trust

[blazing field]

and how is he preventing you from getting eaten by it

[raw falcon]

prolly dog

[blazing field]

I mean

we dunno if signus is rly

[unreal shuttle]

deal

[blazing field]

doing anything against noxus directly

hes just not affiliated with it

doing his own thing

[unreal shuttle]

WHY is signus even dog's servant like i see nothing about it

[blazing field]

hes not

[unreal shuttle]

servants of the scourge

[blazing field]

hes not been dog servants for like 2 years

thats old lore

[rotund venture]

Old lore

[unreal shuttle]

oh thats aweosme

[raw falcon]

old lore

Yeah signus is just

a dude

[unreal shuttle]

does dog even have servants anymore

[blazing field]

no

[raw falcon]

no

[unreal shuttle]

awesome

[rotund venture]

Signus is his own thing and also planned to be moved up in progression? I think?

[blazing field]

signus is no longer dog's servant instead he mogs him by actually having aura while dog is a bum

[rotund venture]

To be directly before dog

[unreal shuttle]

[blazing field]

atleast in terms of lore in terms of gameplay yeah signus sucks rn but its ok

he will havge an actually fittingly good boss fight for his lore one day inshallah

[unreal shuttle]

signus stronger than dog????

[unreal shuttle]

oh nvm

[arctic cliff]

why is he still called "Envoy of the Devourer"?

[unreal shuttle]

idk

what even is an envoy

[arctic cliff]

that title has no reason to be left around and it kinda just makes things confusing

[blazing field]

Probably because they haven't figured otu what to rename him to yet

but i mean tbh just

[rose laurel]

Yeah we know we just haven't gotten around renaming him

[unreal shuttle]

what even is an envoy relaly

[blazing field]

Couldn't he just be renamed to Signus until something is figured out

[dusk bronze]

signus, the dealmaker

[unreal shuttle]

what

[rose laurel]

Idk

[blazing field]

just to make things less confusing

[arctic cliff]

i just think he should just not even have the title now

[unreal shuttle]

ass

[raw falcon]

they forgor

[arctic cliff]

it sucks but yeah

[blazing field]

you're ass

[arctic cliff]

even JUST signus would probably be enough to avoid confusion

[blazing field]

Signus, the Horrible Hog

[raw falcon]

Is signus also from the distortion btw? Or is he really just some guy?

[blazing field]

yeah

[rose laurel]

Like I'm not gonna sugarcoat it we haven't renamed Signus 8ecause we haven't 8othered with it enough lmao

[blazing field]

hes from the distortion

[rotund venture]

He is distortion

[blazing field]

all of the previous dog servants are distortion related

[raw falcon]

What fucking unholy creatures is that place birthing good grief

[blazing field]

signus is the black sheep though because like

every single distortion character ties to noxus somehow

dog is his lackey

cdeaseless is probably a portal amde by it

weaver is basically a traitor to it

[grave rock]

Lowkey, Signus doesnt need a Magic the Gathering legendary creature acronym i think just "Signus" goes hard

[blazing field]

signus though uhhh yeah not really hes just doing his own thing

[raw falcon]

I thought moonlord also wasnt related to noxus?

[dusk bronze]

isn't signus implied to be partially terrarian from the cosmic mine bestiary or am i dumb

[rotund venture]

Signus isn't even malevolent in the traditional sense ye?

[blazing field]

well not counting moonlord

[rose laurel]

We did have a cool title for Signus a while 8ack and honestly I still think it works

[raw falcon]

no hes just a mercenary i think

[blazing field]

I think more so its because he can freely travel between the two worlds and is a distortion being that much more regularly interacts with terrarians

[blazing field]

Not really

Him being a mercenary is also old lore

[dusk bronze]

yeah probably

[blazing field]

He dosen't really work for anyone

[raw falcon]

oh

[raw falcon]

what does the dude do actually

[rotund venture]

He makes deals

[blazing field]

Again he'sw just kinda doing his own thing

He makes deals with people yeah he's Satan

[raw falcon]

does he just like

[arctic cliff]

libra

[raw falcon]

collect rocks

[dusk bronze]

wgat is it

[rotund venture]

Business man Signus

[arctic cliff]

n ightreign copied calamity??????!??

[blazing field]

Signus isn't traditionally evil yeah

He's not

a good guy though either

[grave rock]

Signus manifested from whatever leftover junk Noxus used to make Storm Weaver. He just manifested on his own. Trust

[unreal shuttle]

ok so signus is like

dude

yeah no he really is an aberration that defies all explanation

[rose laurel]

Shroud Patron iirc

[dusk bronze]

hmmm

[rose laurel]

Something along those lines

[blazing field]

Boringggg

[rose laurel]

Idr the organization it could've been like

[blazing field]

Sorry i just really dislike everything in the distortion being Noxus

[rose laurel]

Patron of the Shroud

Idfk

[grave rock]

Signus Shrouded Patron is kinda hard

[blazing field]

its boringggg ...

[rose laurel]

It used those two words

[rotund venture]

Shrouded Patreon?

[rose laurel]

No

Shroud

[unreal shuttle]

im gonna kill the lore writers

[rose laurel]

It wasn't shrouded

::::)

[blazing field]

Shrouded Patreon, he anonymously paid $50 for Brainstorm

thank you Signus

[raw falcon]

Something something silence speaks louder than a thousand words

[grave rock]

No ye I agree though lowkey I kinda assumed Noxus made the place

[dusk bronze]

[blazing field]

Seems very unlikely

I think it's more like just

Noxus is a dominant force on it

[arctic cliff]

"2.2.0 FOR $50", yelled Signus,

[blazing field]

I don't think it's Noxus's Dimension that it Made

[rose laurel]

Nope

[grave rock]

That makes more sense yea

[rose laurel]

Noxus did everything

[raw falcon]

Noxus is basically just null tbh

[mighty geyser]

boaring myseld
f

[blazing field]

Noxus made the entire universe

[rose laurel]

Also, yes Octo

[blazing field]

Noxus is Nameless Deity

[unreal shuttle]

WHAT is this lore drop

[rose laurel]

That's where Ozz took the name from

[mighty geyser]

I FUCKING KNEW IT WAS OZZ

[rose laurel]

You guys think I'm unoriginal?

[raw falcon]

Tl;dr, storm weaver munches on harpies

[dusk bronze]

wyverns*

[raw falcon]

both?

[rose laurel]

Wait until you learn Ozz references League of Legends in Cynosure

[grave rock]

Archwyvern mogs SW

[unreal shuttle]

yeah butg hwat if there is
a city in distortion

[dusk bronze]

yeah we know

[raw falcon]

no its talking about the sky

[unreal shuttle]

damn

[raw falcon]

its munching on wyverns

[mighty geyser]

we've also got "enigmatic engineer" which is also ripped straight from stellaris

[unreal shuttle]

ok brb

[grave rock]

Does Fovos come from some random unrelated dimension

[blazing field]

no

distortion

[grave rock]

Ahhh ok

[blazing field]

i mean atleast itd bel ike

really fucking weird if it wasnt

[raw falcon]

deadass? what is it referencing?

[rose laurel]

Vriska: It's the Distortion yeah

[mighty geyser]

wow this draedon guy sure is a Masterful Crafter

[blazing field]

and like iits literally been talked about multiple times here now that the bestiary is out so

[rose laurel]

There's not a second fucking dimension that'd be weird as fuck

[dull heart]

Wait until you find out I ripped off byleths entire smash special moveset

[arctic cliff]

I KNEW IT

[grave rock]

He comes from Evil Distortion the other one

[rose laurel]

Wait until you learn about the whale

[blazing field]

fovos actually comes from the old duke dimension which is where old duke came from

[rose laurel]

Not that whale Cheese

[mighty geyser]

the whale

[grave rock]

The whale....

[blazing field]

WE HAVE TO KILL TEH WHALE

[mighty geyser]

we have to kill the whale

[grave rock]

Im scared

[dusk bronze]

is this roy brainrot or rp brainrot

[grave rock]

Is there a scary space whale in the distortion

[mighty geyser]

limbus rot

[rose laurel]

No it's Dev 8rainrot

[dusk bronze]

the secret third thing

[raw falcon]

WHITE WHALE

[rose laurel]

I already said it's not that fucking whale

[deft lily]

whale

[blazing field]

you said "whale" in my general presence you should've foreseen this

[rotund venture]

Is your B key broken?

[halcyon seal]

Looking into it.

[mighty geyser]

ok well WE were referencing the limbus meme

[grave rock]

Space whales are the coolest creatures in fiction ngl

[arctic cliff]

eat the whale

[raw falcon]

consider: space sharks

[deft lily]

I love whales!!!!!!!!!

[blazing field]

Consider: space wild boars

[grave rock]

No space sharks arent as cool sorry

[dusk bronze]

haguri you should turn astrum deus into a space whale

[halcyon seal]

Space armadillo

[rose laurel]

No I just talk like this

[grave rock]

Whales just feel like they belong in space lol

[mighty geyser]

consider polyamorous spave worms that kill you

[arctic cliff]

@raw falcon @grave rock both of you are wrong
the coolest creature in anything is this guy

[raw falcon]

Isnt that a blood jelly?

[grave rock]

What is that critter

[raw falcon]

Yeah they're awesum

[blazing field]

You cant say that

[rose laurel]

Space whales are so fucking overdone

[arctic cliff]

red comb jelly

[arctic cliff]

THEY'RE FUCKING ME?

[grave rock]

for a good reason

[blazing field]

deus will remain a worm

[rose laurel]

Is this fr or /j?

[raw falcon]

Space seal?

[blazing field]

fr

[rose laurel]

Sad

[halcyon seal]

Space spiders are awesome fate got me addicted to those

[arctic cliff]

correct

[dusk bronze]

yes i was ragebaiting

[blazing field]

tofu is on the team

[raw falcon]

Big tofu is watching

[arctic cliff]

deus should become a comet AND a worm

[dusk bronze]

true

[grave rock]

Space whales are overdone cuz everyone recognizes that they go hard as hell

[blazing field]

deus hsould become NOTHING fuck you

[raw falcon]

the devs legally arent allowed to unworm deus

[west ledge]

i figured out why summoners association was spawning only 3 minions and now i feel so stupid

[mighty geyser]

theyre cool if done right
like the tiyanki which arent even fucking whales

[blazing field]

nah icl

[raw falcon]

Guys

[blazing field]

as a marine biology nerd

[halcyon seal]

Deus should be crushed into a fine paste and cooked into a stew

[blazing field]

space whales lowk boring most of the time

[raw falcon]

lets kill the whale

[west ledge]

its cuz i had no mana lmfao i forgot to add my mana

im so smart guys...

[bronze axle]

um is it normal i dont have a sunken sea laboratory

[blazing field]

theyre only cool when theyre not literal wahles

and more so just have whale vibes

[blazing field]

idk what a tiyanki si but yeah

this

if its just Whale but Space tahts boring

[rose laurel]

I mean yeah anything is cool if done right

[arctic cliff]

yknow he could jsut do something similar to Avatar of Emptiness and show up in the sky as a comet, but when he descends to you to fight you, he unveils himself as a cool alien worm

[raw falcon]

Anyways can we unnoxus some of the distortion?

[hard copper]

Sometimes its a bit below sunken sea, try cyan seeking mechanism if you cant find it

[mighty geyser]

stellaris creatures

[dusk bronze]

even World's End Everlasting Falling Whale from hit terraria mod homeward journey?

[rose laurel]

My point isn't that I think space whales aren't cool, it's that I don't want one in Calamity 8ecause I've seen 35 of them already and I'm tired

[bronze axle]

alr ty

[raw falcon]

not every distortion thing has to be noxus pls

[rose laurel]

We can do Space Something Else

[blazing field]

Wdym by unnoxus

[dusk bronze]

space...... dolphin

[raw falcon]

thats just a space jelly squid thing

[blazing field]

space dolphin is just a space whale but smaller bruh

[junior obsidian]

did they change the way you summon the sentinels or is my game bugged because i cannot find the rune of kos

[west ledge]

damn

[grave rock]

Sigh
Regular whale with space barnacle

[dusk bronze]

that's the joke

[west ledge]

u cant post how to quit gambling links

0/10 😔

[blazing field]

i know but a CERATIN SOMEONE

wanted deus to be a DOLHPIN

a CERTAIN SOMEONE.

[raw falcon]

everything distortion is connected to noxus, wich, i get why, hive mind and all that, but its kinda lame...

[arctic cliff]

i feel like it wasnt

[dusk bronze]

oh i didn't know that part

[blazing field]

not

really

We literally have not seen anything from the distortion 😭

[west ledge]

it was jus some random gateway article 😭

[raw falcon]

Shit keeps escaping from there

[blazing field]

We've seen 4 (now 5) things that are distortion connected in some way

[grave rock]

Itd be funny if Fovos didnt even know abt Noxus

[blazing field]

we have a sample size of Five

[dusk bronze]

tbf 4 of the 6 distortion entities we know of either are noxus, work for noxus or were created by noxus

[west ledge]

i dont even know what your talking about tbh

[raw falcon]

fair

[west ledge]

is this calamity lore or something

[dusk bronze]

yes

[raw falcon]

yes

[blazing field]

yeah

[west ledge]

i see

[dusk bronze]

#calamity-update-talk has become #lore-discussion

[blazing field]

it does that often

cuz i mean alot of the lore is upcoming content anyways cuz its not ingame

[arctic cliff]

quick post another omega amidias to confuse the newgen

[west ledge]

was brainstorm just a balance patch tho

[blazing field]

nah

[mighty geyser]

analogue horror plot

[blazing field]

not at all

[raw falcon]

I mean to be fair the update literally just dropped theres nothing else to talk about

[blazing field]

brainstorm was the biggest update calamity ever had

[west ledge]

it seems like brainstorm was basically just a bunch of balance in prep for 1.4.5

[dusk bronze]

biggest major update in history

[raw falcon]

biggest cal update ever iirc

[grave rock]

Why are u right

[rose laurel]

Renamed to Mark of Providence

[west ledge]

Damn really?

[junior obsidian]

i see, thanks

[blazing field]

It didn't add much new content by itself but it has a ludicrous amount of changes

and even in terms of new content

[west ledge]

Yeah it has a load of changes

[blazing field]

its not small either

[raw falcon]

like over 130 weapon reworks + 2 major boss reworks isnt just balance patching i dont think...

[dusk bronze]

five. hundred. blocks

[arctic cliff]

im sorry Casey, but it is time for you to learn of Omega Amidias.

[blazing field]

it added os many blocks

[west ledge]

im having fun wit it

[blazing field]

its peak

[west ledge]

sirius seems overpowered asl

[west ledge]

who

[dusk bronze]

that's not omega amidias tupid

[vagrant marsh]

is the calamity update out?

[raw falcon]

Yes

[blazing field]

ye4ah

[dusk bronze]

it's been out

[arctic cliff]

hes like stage 1 of omega amidas

[raw falcon]

has been for the past couple days

[vagrant marsh]

sunken sea rework and everything?

[west ledge]

Also I lowkey forgot that my server name is my deadname so that shocked me when I saw that name

[dusk bronze]

omega amidias is the omega flowey edit

[raw falcon]

nay

[west ledge]

😭

[dusk bronze]

[arctic cliff]

that is only an imposter

[raw falcon]

dog rework and brain rework, mostly, alongside a fuckton of weapon reworks n blocks

[vagrant marsh]

are there any logs

[blazing field]

you can also spend 1 whole zenith on a furniture piece now

[raw falcon]

yeah

[blazing field]

wiki

[raw falcon]

check the wiki

[dusk bronze]

it was created First

[vagrant marsh]

whens the sunken ses rework coming out then?

[grave rock]

No....youre supposed to obey me!!!

[dusk bronze]

unknown

[blazing field]

We don't k now

[raw falcon]

fuck if i know, whenever it comes out

[dusk bronze]

probably not soon

[blazing field]

Likely not anytime soon because devs are hellishly burnt out from it and probably taking a break from it and the next update will likely be something else instead

[west ledge]

It comes out whenever it comes out lowkey

[raw falcon]

this is lowkey peak...

[dusk bronze]

[raw falcon]

please add this

[blazing field]

lots of dev team issues in the past that made sso development hell

[wicked halo]

Majestic Guard is absolutely ludicrous.

[vagrant marsh]

wasnt calamity update gonna come out when tmod updates to 1.4.5?

[wicked halo]

It sometimes deals 1K DAMAGE in a single swing.

[blazing field]

yeah itll be ported but that isnt gonna be swunken sea

[wicked halo]

1K DAMAGE.

[west ledge]

I dont expect shit thats free to have insanely consistent updates because its a passion project not a job

[wicked halo]

FOR POST-MECH 1.

[west ledge]

burning yourself out on a passion project is just gonna make it worse lowk

[vagrant marsh]

so they released it early?

[blazing field]

no

[raw falcon]

pfft no, tmod 1.4.5 isnt gonna drop in months dude

[blazing field]

brainstorm wasnt planned to come out with 1.4.5 ever

[wicked halo]

Yeah Tmod 1.4.5 is probably like.

[vagrant marsh]

actually?

[wicked halo]

Late 2026.

[west ledge]

tmod 1.4.5 is gonna be like 3-4 months probably

they said it wouldnt be 9 months long

[wicked halo]

I give it till September-October.

[rare tinsel]

there’s way bigger issues than majestic guard

[wicked halo]

Ah.

[raw falcon]

yeah actually

[vagrant marsh]

brainstorm is the update we just got right

[rare tinsel]

majestic guard is probably good bit

[raw falcon]

ye

[blazing field]

yeh

[rare tinsel]

but y

[wicked halo]

Can you give me some examples?

[vagrant marsh]

whys it take so long?

[west ledge]

idk how long itll take to port maybe 3-4 months is what im assuming

could be more could be less but

[wicked halo]

The Minecraft modding community fried my brain with 3-4.

[rare tinsel]

spider staff

[raw falcon]

1.4.5 changed a lot of things internally so they have to adjust for that. And that takes a while

[west ledge]

thankfully idk the 3-4 reference

[rare tinsel]

orderbringer

[vagrant marsh]

oksy thanks

[west ledge]

also seen as theres 1 fucktillion mods here how do i get my nickname changed

[wicked halo]

3-4 in Minecraft modding means "We don't have a proper release date and shut the fuck up about it."

[rare tinsel]

just ask politely and it’ll happen

[unreal shuttle]

couldnt we technically convince draedon to make a purity renewal nuke to cleanse everything from the world

[rare tinsel]

if you wanna you can ask @vivid ridge

[bronze axle]

ty i found it it was in the cavern layer

[wicked halo]

It's probably gonna take very long.

[raw falcon]

TC7 is in a perpetual state of 3-4 ngl

[west ledge]

In that case can a woke liberal get a name change

(me)

[wicked halo]

I personally don't care.

[rose laurel]

You could try convincing Draedon to do many things. Doesn't mean he will do it

[wicked halo]

Probably because I'm not really attached to TC.

[west ledge]

we are lowkey smarter than draedon though

[raw falcon]

Valid

[west ledge]

bread tastes better than key

[unreal shuttle]

true.........

you would need to provide a fuckton of reasons that he would ACTUALLY care about

[raw falcon]

Have you considered eating the prison bars

checkmate liberal

[west ledge]

have you considered eating the prison itself

checkmate republican

[raw falcon]

I have

[west ledge]

damn it

i have been duped

[raw falcon]

rocks dont taste that great

[west ledge]

have you tried eating the prison guards though

[raw falcon]

I already did

why do you think the things empty

[west ledge]

because i ate them

[raw falcon]

good

eat another

[west ledge]

but im full

[raw falcon]

skill issue smh

[west ledge]

i will unleash the power of the indomitable human spirit

can i not use gifs

😔

[raw falcon]

Embed fail

womp

[west ledge]

ok fine a sticker will do

[tribal isle]

whats wrong w it

[rigid elbow]

guys on what boss should i disable infernum for it to work properly with the new upd??

[tribal isle]

brain

[raw falcon]

...why are you playing infernum on a new update?

[west ledge]

wait u cant use stickers either....

[tribal isle]

people get no rights here

[rigid elbow]

cause i like infernum

[west ledge]

i see

[west ledge]

there

[west ledge]

ts works

[raw falcon]

Yeah but like. It's obviously gonna break things?

[rigid elbow]

thats why im asking on what boss i should disable infernum

[ruby storm]

invigorating might be the clear accessory winner

[west ledge]

me when i ✌️ 🖐️ 🖐️ 🫰 🫰 🫲 🫷 🫷 👌 🫳 🖕

[raw falcon]

wut is invigorating?

[ruby storm]

for reforges

[west ledge]

i use this over warding

because think about it

[tropic jolt]

😿

[ruby storm]

0.5 hp regen/s is SO GOOD

[west ledge]

perma health regen is better than no armor that gets insta stripped

[raw falcon]

dude became the royal scientist

[west ledge]

I am the force

[tropic jolt]

the man that speaks in emojis

[ruby storm]

defense is still amazing for stray hits but yeah

[rare tinsel]

What do you want a change to?

[wicked halo]

Yeah Invigorating is great.

[rare tinsel]

or did you already get a change

[wicked halo]

Helped carry me through a couple of bosses.

[west ledge]

Oh damn forgot i asked

[ruby storm]

unironically half paid attention to slime god and didn't get low once

[west ledge]

Kaylee is the name i go by nowadays

[rare tinsel]

You’d like Kaylee

[west ledge]

ye

[rare tinsel]

Like that?

[west ledge]

yur

[ruby storm]

that plus double wulfrum controller using bewitching table for the minion is great

[west ledge]

ty

[rare tinsel]

🦎 👍

[raw falcon]

I find that warding does a fine enough job with defense builds tbh

[rare tinsel]

warding is great

[mystic eagle]

There's no conclusive best reforge for anything. The only reforges that can be considered the worst are Violent, Arcane and Silent, given how all are only used for 1 class (they're good for their classes)

[rare tinsel]

it deserved a nerf but it’s still good

[dull heart]

Wulfrum controller kinda busted

[grave rock]

ilike the wulfrum summon cuz itscute :)

[west ledge]

currently rocking this

[raw falcon]

For sure, I fucking love warding

[dull heart]

Ehh

[rare tinsel]

glooby graveyard :(

[dull heart]

You can make some solid conclusions based on data

[ruby storm]

arcane is still better menacing because mana cost reduction funni

[west ledge]

i die alot

[wicked halo]

Invigorating is great cause I tend to use True Melee often.

[raw falcon]

speaking of, since it got resprited, that got me wondering, is wulfrum still gonna use the steampunk esque asthetic established by Iban?

[dull heart]

Like invigorating does absolutely wipe most other defensive reforges late game

[wicked halo]

And I kinda suck at dodging up that close.

[rare tinsel]

True melee 🎉

[ruby storm]

yeah, just put it on if you're not summoner

[wicked halo]

Queen Slime was...

A pain.

[west ledge]

when are we buffing summoner that class is so weak

[regal vessel]

I think scaling modifiers should be brought back

[flat rose]

I think the armor break mechanic kind of really fucks warding over

[dull heart]

In a 4 minute fight, 7 invigorating is like 850 HP over the whole fight

[wicked halo]

Until I realized that I can just use Slimy Saddle and Majestic Guard and absolutely fuck her up.

[dull heart]

It really doesn't at all

[grave rock]

it doesnt unless ur taking lots of hits in succession

[west ledge]

(this is called a lie, people typically do this to illicit ill reactions, also known as "ragebait")

[dull heart]

Defense damage lasts exactly one second after being hit

[ruby storm]

it fucks over facetanking

[flat rose]

and sure they got the flat damage reduction to compensate but i still feel like it loses some luster

[grave rock]

good

[flat rose]

true

[dull heart]

It only punishes being hit over and over, not being hit and dodging

[unreal shuttle]

doesnt dauntless give natural life regen because max hp tho

[flat folio]

I love how this screenshot with my deadname is now plastered on the subreddit as part of the discourse mess that place is dealing with it's really cool !

[ruby storm]

if you're not facetanking it's not impactful

[west ledge]

wulfrum controllers mid as hell isnt it

[ruby storm]

but hp regen is still king

[dull heart]

A full dauntless adds 0.5-1 hp/s from natural regen

[ruby storm]

nope

[regal vessel]

Snail speed

Also true melee

[grave geyser]

1 second after your iframes end*

[unreal shuttle]

oh
7 accesories?

[wicked halo]

I mean 1k damage per hit at it's stage of the game it's ridiculous.

[dull heart]

Yes, and that's 60 seconds after being hit too

[raw falcon]

The brainstorm hotfix is called brain surgery thats fucking golden

[dull heart]

Because natural regen takes time to recover

[raw falcon]

give whoever came up with that a raise

[west ledge]

how so

[regal vessel]

Interesting

[west ledge]

oh it heals

[ruby storm]

it's great for

yeah

[regal vessel]

Honestly im pretty surprised terraria has never had a dimension

[ruby storm]

its free regen for not summoner

[west ledge]

im a summoner so 😭

[regal vessel]

True melee

[unreal shuttle]

so even with 7 dauntless thats like

1 hps and it starts a second after getting hit

[west ledge]

i dont play any other class cuz i just personally enjoy summoner the most

[unreal shuttle]

damn

[regal vessel]

Its also not even 1k

[ruby storm]

at least the draedon arsenal weapon is cool

[wicked halo]

I mean 1k on crit to be exact.

[regal vessel]

Base damage is like 500

[regal vessel]

Yea you need to crit

[knotty violet]

is it just me or does leviathan and anhita feel a little too easy for where its at in progression? me and my team just killed it pre mech boss 2 and two of us didnt die and the other two died once

[regal vessel]

Thats a chance

[grave rock]

dude wtf is ur status

[west ledge]

is that ares' exoskeleton

[wicked halo]

Still though it's a really nice weapon.

[regal vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-walking-eyes-side-eyes-eyes-emoji-gif-16243782770187083509

[ruby storm]

talking about phm

[regal vessel]

son

[unreal shuttle]

dude i cant wait to finish the summoner run so i can crit again

[west ledge]

idek what goyim are

[dull heart]

It reaches 1hp/s like a minute after being hit when standing still, it's 0.5 when moving

[west ledge]

o

[unreal shuttle]

[ruby storm]

all the draedon weapons got reworked and they're peak

[tribal isle]

its bad

[dull heart]

Dauntless is not for the regen

[west ledge]

cant summons crit

[tribal isle]

EVEN PHASESLAYER?

[dull heart]

Dauntless is great early game for short fights tho

[grave rock]

not all

[ruby storm]

idk

[west ledge]

i swear summons can crit

[ruby storm]

a good bit

[grave rock]

but a lot

[dull heart]

Phaseslayer gets 3 minutes yharon now

[grave rock]

i think all the aerilate tier ones got reworked?

[ruby storm]

all the phm ones and I love it

[unreal shuttle]

ok what do eidolists even do in the abyss

[west ledge]

maybe its just the summons that use ammo that can crit

[unreal shuttle]

like yeah they are half wyrm or whatever but what are they doig

[ruby storm]

I'm glad the summoner weapon got changed

[fathom girder]

wait did phaseslayer get reworked

or

[ruby storm]

it was like

[fathom girder]

why's it a sub 3 now

[dull heart]

Buffed

[west ledge]

i lowkey just use this shi with summons

[west ledge]

hes everywhere i go

hihi stomp

[unique warren]

Just a small buff

[unreal shuttle]

crit booster with summons

[dull heart]

Abaddon is bugged and does not explode

[west ledge]

FUCK

[grave rock]

but.....minions dont crit....

[fathom girder]

what the fuck

[dull heart]

If Abaddon worked it would be good with blade staff

[fathom girder]

goddamn that's a good buff

[grave rock]

naturally

[west ledge]

Pretty sure they can crit

[tropic jolt]

is it no longer the wrist slayer

[fathom girder]

you said hi to me yesterday...

[dull heart]

They do with firecracker or durendal

[west ledge]

no i didnt

[fathom girder]

Minions can only crit with some whips yeah

[dull heart]

Only with one of 4 whips

[raw falcon]

is the prismatic breaker still multiclass btw?

[fathom girder]

I SWEAR you did

[regal vessel]

Are there gonna be more true melees?

[unreal shuttle]

minions cant crit tho can they?

[fathom girder]

maybe it was someone else from the server lmao

[west ledge]

yeah i did

[dull heart]

Whips

[fathom girder]

gaslighting me

mfw

[unreal shuttle]

ohhh ok

[ruby storm]

"damn, the frogs have better dps than my current su... wait they can't hit shit they're slow asf"

[unreal shuttle]

thats like 10% chance tho

[west ledge]

so abbadon currently does nothing

[unreal shuttle]

so like... idk.

[grave rock]

whips can give em a set crit chance

[ruby storm]

now the new one is just

nuclear warfare

[dull heart]

Firecracker is a crit every whip hit

[raw falcon]

question

[unreal shuttle]

[raw falcon]

is the prismatic breaker still multiclass?

[west ledge]

so out of curiosity then do you know when abaddon will be fixed

or is that kinda just up in the air for now

[dull heart]

next hotfix

[tribal isle]

is it not Z tier now

[west ledge]

pawsome and when is that next hotfix is there an eta

[dull heart]

No

[west ledge]

alr i shall wait patiently for it

[unique warren]

Is that a cal change

[dull heart]

Yes

[unique warren]

Neat

[fathom girder]

Doze is the server's 8 ball

[dull heart]

ok

[unique warren]

They are doze who know

[regal vessel]

I mean as in non projectile melee weapons

[tribal isle]

when is distortion update

[fathom girder]

RESPECTFULLY doze we love you

[regal vessel]

Very far away

Probably will be after everything is reworked

Along with yharim

[dull heart]

answer unclear, ask again in 2030

[unique warren]

Yeah totes

[fathom girder]

lmao

[tribal isle]

yharim is the last last thing thats being added

except the superbosses

[unique warren]

Uhhh did this update add any true melee weapons?

[regal vessel]

Yea

[fathom girder]

It added grand dad

[mystic eagle]

It readded several

[regal vessel]

And distortion would be the last thing thats being added

[dull heart]

Yes

[fathom girder]

a true melee weapon

DON'T move the goalpost shush I swear

to god

[hard copper]

removed enforver

[dull heart]

Added one and reworked many melee into the melee

[regal vessel]

Ye and it buffed a lot of existing ones

[random lark]

for the client.logs im waiting on my friend to get home to send it but ive sent the server.logs would there be anything else i should include?

[fathom girder]

don't do it

[unique warren]

Ok so Grand Dad and... I can't think of any others that aren't just reworks of preexisting weapons tho

[unreal shuttle]

this guy

[unique warren]

Yeah Grand Dad counts

[fathom girder]

okay okay cool lul

[dull heart]

that and a description of the bug is all that's needed, maybe modlist

[unique warren]

Re-adding is still adding

[random lark]

alr alr ty

[tribal isle]

dog's theme is never ever getting replaced right

[fathom girder]

correct

it stays

[amber furnace]

added and also reworked some

[fathom girder]

All the dokuro themes are staying

[tropic jolt]

im replacing dogs theme rn because I am evil

[fathom girder]

iirc

[dull heart]

Depends on if we want every calamity dev to wake up to a pipe bomb

[tribal isle]

devs would probably get hanged if dog's theme got replaced

[tropic jolt]

cursed to never remove old duke

fate worse than death

[unique warren]

I feel like there is little reason to redo... any of the boss music in the mod tbh

[fathom girder]

the iirc is because idk if the evil 2 themes will fit when those bosses are moved to post ML

[hard copper]

Old duke theme is good tho

[dull heart]

There are a couple bosses that could use a redo

[errant mango]

new providence is rly good

[keen zodiac]

i question if malice golem was ever tested...

[unique warren]

They're like super intense themes imo so they would work

[tropic jolt]

thats precisely the problem

[mighty geyser]

yea

[fathom girder]

maybe

[errant mango]

visuals are clean, but its kinda easy now ngl

[mystic eagle]

Guys check out my new Wandering Eye cosplay

[hard copper]

Ah i see what you mean

[dull heart]

Like ravager theme I'd want to be redone to fit with the cathedral and new ravager vibes

[unique warren]

Ok fair

[fathom girder]

If a dokuro theme gets replaced, it'd still be in a music box 100%

[dull heart]

Yeah

[fathom girder]

like put the new music box in shimmer to turn it into the dokuro version or somethin' like that

[sonic tiger]

How do you enable the new calamity start screen?

[dull heart]

Otherworldly Ravager Music Box

[tribal isle]

whats a cathedral

[unique warren]

Vanilla does that, so it's the bare minimum

[unreal shuttle]

why does the wyrms hate chaos state i dont think its primordial light

[unique warren]

Vanilla uses (alt) usually so it would probs be that

[tropic jolt]

crazy boss rush is going to have 8 different music tracks when its done

[fathom girder]

CD cooked

[tribal isle]

terraria otherworlds calamity mod

[tropic jolt]

t2e teaser gave me peak and then left me in the desert to die 😭

[unique warren]

Yeah ngl I think their current themes work better for them being post-ML 😭

They're really fuckin intense themes

[fathom girder]

you think?

I can't really tell, if I'm gonna be honest

[unreal shuttle]

jared <3

[fathom girder]

just cuz I have NO idea what the devs plan to do for em in their post ML reworks

[fading igloo]

what did they do to my holy collider :(

[fathom girder]

they made it cool

[dull heart]

baseball bat

[fathom girder]

cool slick cane rework

[fading igloo]

i guess

[unreal shuttle]

what the fuck are you doing

[halcyon seal]

Do this to a guy in multiplayer to scare the shit out of them

[mystic eagle]

Invisible Dye

[unique warren]

Yeah uh lemme grab the doc

[dull heart]

Neither do I

[fathom girder]

I also don't hold the doc as prophecy

[unreal shuttle]

o ok

[unique warren]

Neither do I

[fathom girder]

guh

I think especially now, the whole boss rework concepts they've got rn are subject to change as they continue to fix up other bosses

[unique warren]

It's a valuable resource but at the end of the day it's an unofficial source

Anyways here’s what it says

Let's go, third modded hydra

Allegedly.

[fathom girder]

Dragonfolly in earlygame is gonna be such a cool thing

[unique warren]

Yeah it just kinda fits doesn't it

[fathom girder]

and the theme also is fine for that place

which is neat

Gilded proboscis is gonna be fun in prehm lul

[tropic jolt]

dragonfolly will now be a mothron prequel instead of sequel

insane

[unique warren]

and more reasonable imo

[fathom girder]

Dragonfolly will set you up for farming post DoG mothron

[unique warren]

Uhhh would it

[fathom girder]

mentally

like muscle memory

[unreal shuttle]

dragonfolly being pre-hardmode doesnt feel right

[unique warren]

Like I see what you mean but is this happening before or after Distortion

[fathom girder]

hell if I know

[dull heart]

Bad news

[fathom girder]

oh no...

[tribal isle]

why does slick cane do that

[unique warren]

I think it does considering new lore

Old lore it would have been pretty weird but it makes sense here

[unreal shuttle]

a draconic offshoot shouldnt be THAT weak man

[fathom girder]

why not

what's stopping it from being a little bitch

[tribal isle]

sooo are we back to sso tomorrow

[dull heart]

no

[mystic eagle]

[fathom girder]

SSO never

[unique warren]

It's an offshoot for a reason

[fathom girder]

yeah there we go

[dull heart]

I see you found the 10k platinum Easter egg

[arctic cliff]

SSO INSIDE YOU. IT MUST BE WRETCHED FREE FROM YOUR CORPSE.

[blazing field]

do you know what else is a draconic offshoot

the Normal Regular Enemies known as Basilisks and Wyverns and Pigrons

[unreal shuttle]

MY MO-

[unique warren]

You know who ISNT

[blazing field]

yeah me

[tribal isle]

me

[blazing field]

im cheese

[unique warren]

MY GOAT

[fading igloo]

I did not realise the fireballs explode

[unique warren]

Dragonic offshoot ❌

[unreal shuttle]

yeah ok fair enough

[twin ingot]

Trash boss

[unique warren]

Dragon ✅✅✅✅✅✅

[unreal shuttle]

what

[lapis hamlet]

Guys How i use the SHPC?

[unique warren]

This a dragon

[supple tendon]

Yo how’s brainstorm? I’ve been hearing a lot of mixed thoughts

[blazing field]

dragon terminology is wierd

[arctic cliff]

IMPOSTER???

[blazing field]

in calamity

theres auric dragons

[unreal shuttle]

what the fuck do you mean

the OLD DUKE
is an auric dragon

[supple tendon]

Haven’t touched it yet due to 1.4.5 and Mewgenics

[tribal isle]

why was the old duke sprite that looks like betsy's grandpa scrapped

[lapis hamlet]

What i need to do to use it, It Got reworked but i have no Idea xd

[unreal shuttle]

HE DIDNT DROP NO SOUL ON DEATH

[blazing field]

theres dragons which dont have auric souls like old duke and primordial wyrm

[unique warren]

Dragon, not Auric Dragon

[unreal shuttle]

OHHHHHHHH ok

ok

i see

[tribal isle]

who said hes an auric dragon

[blazing field]

and sometimes that also includes things like basilisks and wyverns and bla bla bla

[unreal shuttle]

so there are offshoots, dragons, and auric dragons

ok

[blazing field]

rly i just think

draconci offshoot

is a confusing term

cuz

[unique warren]

So def related to Auric Dragons but wasn't given the privilege

[unreal shuttle]

i see

[tribal isle]

isnt draconic offshoot just child of dragon

[blazing field]

basilisks and dragonfolly and etc are all kind of still dragons but theyre much further down in the bloodline and dont have auric souls and generally are much more animalistic

personally i feel like

the dragon terminology could

probably be changed a bit

[unique warren]

Moreso in the way we are offshoots of ancient apes

[blazing field]

cuz its kinda confusing

[deft lily]

and when everyone is a dragon

no one will be

[versed heart]

Aren't Pigrons Draconic offshoots? or are they Technically not for some reason?
Also if Fishrons alone can range from Mid-Late Hardmode boss in strength to Mid Post Moon Lord, thenI'm not sure if it's really unreasonable that Dragon offshoots as a whole can have a really wide variety of strength

I see someone mentioned Pigrons already

[arctic cliff]

draconic offshoot is an insult to all of dragonkind

[hot knot]

basically i think of it like
-‘dragons’ - auric dragons
-‘offshoots’ - dragons

[arctic cliff]

please refer to dragons as dragons

-love, the dragonfolly

[fathom girder]

All lives are dragon lives ❤️

[hot knot]

represent all dragons

[versed heart]

Dragon Racism is so ingrained in society these guys are literally named after being foolish dragons

[grand mirage]

Who was dragonfolly supposed to be switched with again?

[arctic cliff]

ngl tho dragonfolly as a name needs to be replaced

[supple tendon]

Pretty sure it was perf and hive mind yea

[versed heart]

The Evil 2 bosses