calamity-update-talk

[spiral tree]

Yharon ate my weapons

[sturdy patio]

recipes were fair

[young notch]

You think so?

/gen

If it’s any consolation, the drop rates for those items have been increased

[sturdy patio]

all removing the recipes does is encourage something like fargos qol for battle cry

[dusk bronze]

it doesn't

[sturdy patio]

the recipes still made u go out of ur way to get the mats

[dusk bronze]

zerg exists

[spiral tree]

Can they be lowered

😋

[young notch]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[spiral tree]

I got them too easy pls nerf

[young notch]

And again, the ankh shield isn’t needed for asgard’s valor anymore

[sturdy patio]

devs r gonna remove rod of discord from hallow wizard shop next and some1s gonna post "ppl just dont wanna play" when u dont wanna make a massive farm for chaos elms

same concept

[young notch]

Shimmer makes it pretty easy to get all the ingredients anyway

[young notch]

Uhhhhhhhhhhh

about that

[spiral tree]

Does he know

[sturdy patio]

yeah

figured

[spiral tree]

Lmaoooooo

Jahsjahjsahjaha it's 10x more easy to get now

It doesn't bother Mii bc i never use it anyway hehehehehe

[young notch]

For real?

[spiral tree]

Yaaaa I don't really know when to use it so I just never get it

I know it's useful but I actually can't get my brain to use it

[young notch]

That’s fair actually

[tropic jolt]

☠️

[spiral tree]

Like I only used it in vanilla terraria for moon lord fight

But when I started calamity I completely forgot it existed

Now I just got too used to make big arenas so I can dodge freely

[young notch]

I use RoD for a few specific attacks in Calamity, while my normality relocator is my “oh fuck” button

[tropic jolt]

yeah I honestly have no idea why they took rod out of the shop

[spiral tree]

To make someone mad

😛

[tropic jolt]

I am seething with rage

now I shall insult calamity developers on social media

[spiral tree]

I find it kinda useful for some calamitas attacks but still don't use it heh

[young notch]

They just don’t want certain items to be so centralized anymore

[spiral tree]

It got too woke

[tropic jolt]

wokelamity 💔

[iron dew]

wokelamity ❤️

[spiral tree]

Wokelamity 😻

[young notch]

Wokelamity 🤢

[tropic jolt]

wokelamity 🤔

[spiral tree]

ban this person

[young notch]

I AM the law

[spiral tree]

💔

Demoting urself

[karmic palm]

HELLO

[spiral tree]

[karmic palm]

👋

[spiral tree]

Haiaiiiakiiii

Hello

[worn fulcrum]

tbh

[hearty horizon]

Oh, new Flare Bolt is pretty sick

[spiral tree]

Yk what else is sick

[tropic jolt]

i'll have to check how bad farming for rod is now with the buffed droprate but it feels weird to add back the worst grind from the vanilla game

[worn fulcrum]

why did wizard not use RoD to evade attacks then he have no hp( i mean, if he had it so much he can sell it why not use some)?

[spiral tree]

Mii, I'm sick in the head

[mossy adder]

Wait, what??

[karmic palm]

my minions keep disappearing

[radiant sparrow]

scal is done wooooooooooooo

[tropic jolt]

and calamity even adds an upgrade to the rod as well

[spiral tree]

That's why he lost RoD privileges he didn't know how to use it

[young notch]

Good thing Terraria was perfectly beatable without it then :p

[worn fulcrum]

yeah

[spiral tree]

I beated calamity and infernum without it :happy:

Now it's calamity masochist t-melee without it

18 hours and I just entered hardmode

[young notch]

It’s a grind for sure but not one I didn’t mine

[spiral tree]

💔

[karmic palm]

what is hardest mode

[young notch]

Death

Malice is a meme mode I’m not counting it

[spiral tree]

Rock

[tropic jolt]

just feels weird to me for a mod to add a new item and lock it behind an awful grind idk

[young notch]

If Death isn’t spicy enough for you, there’s a really popular unofficial add-on for Calamity called Infernum Mode

[spiral tree]

and there's fargo's too

[karmic palm]

I do infurnum

no death pls!

[spiral tree]

Infernum it's easy tho u just need good rhythm in the post-ml stuff

I really like providence fight bc of the music sync it has

It's really cool

[worn fulcrum]

hm

[young notch]

RoD was never that bad for me in vanilla, but I am definitely the exception

[worn fulcrum]

i forgor
snow walls count as ice biomb tiles or not?

[young notch]

Go underground, dig big box, line bottom with lava, make farm

[ashen pivot]

were depth cells and lumenyl re-tiered because i'm down in the 3rd layer of the abyss killing giant squids n shi and they aren't dropping anything besides ink bombs

[spiral tree]

Or use cheat sheet if too lazy

[high scaffold]

After leviathan

[ashen pivot]

i thought they were after cal clone, silly me

[frail tapir]

most leaks i know was from mura (well not all of them)

[radiant sparrow]

are any of the scal enchants wort it?

for my gear

[night otter]

is there any where to see why specific weapons were removed? i quite liked a few of the ones that got axed

[spiral tree]

They got removed bc i didn't like them

[frail tapir]

[night otter]

everything will burn

[hot remnant]

is this a bug why is nothing spawning in layer 2 abyss

[grave rock]

hi woke calamity

[spiral tree]

Wokelamity

[fathom girder]

Calewokity

[blazing totem]

calamity (it already was woke)

[vestal osprey]

Is it strange i never used the scal enchants?

[radiant sparrow]

From my first impression of them they seem meh

Anything I should do before I face the exo mechs as summoner?

[fathom girder]

Make sure you've got summons

[radiant sparrow]

Fuuuuck really

[atomic dove]

Thoughts on new oathblade rework?

[idle depot]

I hope I can used one of those art contest winning skins for murasama

[idle depot]

Hehehe Throwing sword go brrrr

[fathom girder]

Mura "leaks" are just overhaul or community remix stuff 🥀

Wait why-

That was a good question

[tribal isle]

Jus get Sepulcher he’s the best

[shadow vapor]

If anything i NEED more grind

So the playthrough isn't over in 3 days

Im pretty certain I could complete revengance if I played a full 24 hours

If I really wanted too

[tribal isle]

I jus wanna get past the boring stuff first and get to post ml when it gets fun as soon as possible

[spiral tree]

I finished most of my infernum runs in 20-30 hours

Now I started masochist and

[ember canopy]

I actually enjoy pre hm more than the later stages

[grave rock]

theres a rly cool qol mod for that

[ember canopy]

It has its own whimst

[spiral tree]

18 hours in and I barely killed wof

[ember canopy]

whimsy

[grave rock]

its called dragonlens

[shadow vapor]

Terraria players when game more than bosses:

[grave rock]

you can gvie urself pre providence gear and jump right into the fun part !

[tribal isle]

I prefer cheat sheet when I need stuff I’m lacking and I’m lazy to get it

[shadow vapor]

Im actually considering trying fargos again

Fargos hive mind made me wanna delete my computer system

[ember canopy]

Fargos pretty long is it not

[spiral tree]

Perforator it's a lot easier

[grave rock]

people who think the cal grind is bad have it too good imma be fr

[spiral tree]

Same with brain

[shadow vapor]

Yeah imma do crimson this time

Then make a different world and torture the hive mind

[spiral tree]

Woke lesbian jesus

[grave rock]

u can boost spawn rates on ts to like 24x or ssmth

[distant raft]

glvthnvke

[shadow vapor]

When im at post moon lord level

[grave rock]

glvthnvke

[radiant sparrow]

Like it literally summons a sepulcher?

[tribal isle]

Yes

[grave rock]

yes

[shadow vapor]

I love the grind

[grave rock]

it also spawns hearts that u gotta kill

[radiant sparrow]

What's the actual weapon called?

[shadow vapor]

I don't get people who hate grinding

[grave rock]

or else it turns on you

[distant raft]

sepulcher now targets the hearts when theres too many

[tribal isle]

Exhume staff of mechworm

[grave rock]

metastasis iirc, u get it from exhuming staff of the mechworm

[grave rock]

oh

[radiant sparrow]

Ohhh

[grave rock]

it ddoesnt turn on u anymore?

[shadow vapor]

Im doing an infernum summoner/mage run

[distant raft]

correct

[radiant sparrow]

Does the wiki have a list of all the exhumed weapons?

[grave rock]

thats kinda sad

[shadow vapor]

Aka I don't wanna have defense

[grave rock]

i liked that lil gimmick

[grave rock]

yes

[shadow vapor]

Also I wanna do summoner for the first time

Because I haven't done summoner before

[grave rock]

also get urself shattered community while ur at it

[spiral tree]

I tried and stopped pre skeletron

[distant raft]

cinders of lament, metastasis, the weird sack thing that spawns metaball monster, scom, rancor, another thing im forgetting

[spiral tree]

I got so bored

[radiant sparrow]

Btw is the community worth using?

[radiant sparrow]

Thanks

[grave rock]

exhumed community is strictly better iirc?

[spiral tree]

No community too toxic 😔

[grave rock]

run that

[shadow vapor]

Nuke the community from orbit before they drive the devs away

[distant raft]

nvm there was not another thing i was forgetting

[shadow vapor]

Oh you meant the item

[tribal isle]

Will everything post scal get nerfed when yharim drops
I don’t think nearly infinite rage for the yharim fight is gonna be balanced

[radiant sparrow]

Cinders lament looks really cool, does that self damage?

[distant raft]

yeah

i think

im pretty sure its just cinders that kept the self damage

[shadow vapor]

Erm that assumes yharim will drop

Im so hilarious

[tribal isle]

U right bro

[distant raft]

ok yeah cinders was unchanged

[tribal isle]

We still gotta survive until they start making yharim

[spiral tree]

I might get married before that

[radiant sparrow]

Worth using at all or is it just KMs the summon?

[distant raft]

if you can dodge it youve got a very strong active weapon

[grave rock]

theres two states to being a calamity fan

yipee and nothing ever happens

[spiral tree]

U forgot about

[radiant sparrow]

It's a shame yharon was actually piss easy

[spiral tree]

"why did they removed RoD from wizard shop"

[radiant sparrow]

I remember that mf being so much harder half a decade ago

[tribal isle]

Looking back at it I’m kinda shocked fab didn’t make a slop yharim bossfight back in like 2016

[grave rock]

cultist ai

[radiant sparrow]

Also I feel like ravager is still a "things are happening" the boss

[shadow vapor]

Im surprised no one's made a mod for it like wotg

[radiant sparrow]

Like shit is just goin on for the sake of goin' on

[tribal isle]

Yeah no shot he’s not reworked

[radiant sparrow]

Ravager is still mid....

[spiral tree]

This is true

[radiant sparrow]

I hope death mode rogue will treat me well

First death mode run

[spiral tree]

Gl

[tribal isle]

Rogue

[spiral tree]

c:

[radiant sparrow]

I've never played rogue before

[spiral tree]

Uegor

I hate rogue

[radiant sparrow]

I'm a summon/mage chud

[tribal isle]

I HATE rogue

[radiant sparrow]

I do wanna redo a mage run though, I started my mage pre brainstorm like a moron(didn't know the update was coming)

[spiral tree]

I HATE rogue

[radiant sparrow]

All I'm hearing is that you cannot aim

[spiral tree]

Not reallt

Early game it's boring

[tribal isle]

how did out of melee and ranger you picked fucking rogue

[spiral tree]

Post ml gets fun but eh

Ranger it's my fav

Class I most played

400+ hours on it

[grave zephyr]

I'm glad they removed that power charge stuff from Draedon's arsenal weapons. I don't know if it was really that big of a deal since I never used them, but I didn't use them because of the charge. It kind of turned me off from trying them out.

[radiant sparrow]

Throwing class that does beeg damage sounds interesting and ranger is fucking lame

Melee is there, I'm indifferent about melee

[spiral tree]

U depend on stealth most of the time

[tribal isle]

Rogue is literally pre hm ranger when you can only throw shurikens but for the whole game

[spiral tree]

Wich for it to load faster u need to not move

[full plume]

forbidden oathblade or avalanche I'm omw to fight aqua scourge 😭

[tribal isle]

exoblade

[radiant sparrow]

What is the average stealth metre build up time?

[spiral tree]

3-5 secs depends armor

[radiant sparrow]

That's not bad at all???

[golden cedar]

idk what class and difficulty to play for the new update

[grave rock]

i rly like rogue

[tribal isle]

Play melee

Rev

[golden cedar]

i did summoner on revengance true melee infernum (up to exo and scal)

[spiral tree]

Not doing damage for 3 secs doesnt seem good for mii

But If u like it I won't judge u

But as I said

That's only a problem on early game

It gets a lot better once you do progression since u can build it stealth based or spam based

[golden cedar]

so what's the deal with malice mode?

[spiral tree]

Wich makes it fun

[frail tapir]

dunno when tho (i like the gun personally)

[golden cedar]

it just makes everything harder?

[spiral tree]

No idea heh

[golden cedar]

idk death or like

[tribal isle]

Joke difficulty

[radiant sparrow]

Stealth in my eyes looks cool.. I get to relax and then do big damage

[golden cedar]

death master mode maybe? or maybe death expert + seed?

[tribal isle]

Just do malice gfb

[spiral tree]

Yeaaah it just in early it's not worth it waiting for it since u only do like 100 damage

[radiant sparrow]

I'm built different trust

[golden cedar]

ooh gfb i wanted to do that

death gfb perhaps? or revengce?

[tribal isle]

Malice

[radiant sparrow]

Rev was quite easy, I can't imagine death mode is much harder

[golden cedar]

but gfb

[radiant sparrow]

Also victide armour and the fathom set are probably the coolest armour visually

[finite canyon]

im starting a calamity playthrough with 400 quality of life mods enabled, i dont even need to click my mouse to beat the exo mechs

[radiant sparrow]

It's a shame some of the later armours don't have that level of detail

[spiral tree]

Do u have a qol key on ur keyboard called kill all bosses

[golden cedar]

gfb seems good some good drops

[finite canyon]

honk honk

[inner timber]

2 second standing still 4 seconds moving is the default, max stealth gen buff is 100% (i believe) so at max it is 1 second and 2 seconds respectively

[spiral tree]

Nerdddd

U could have said

It takes 10 years

So he wouldn't play it

😓

[inner timber]

im not a misinformation spreader im afraid

[inner timber]

weapon dependant

[spiral tree]

Meow

[inner timber]

ftw or gfb legendary calamity difficulty, it has the ai of masdeath + the ftw/gfb unique ai changes

[spiral tree]

I'll go eep gnight

[radiant sparrow]

I wonder when either yt or the wiki will have a upto date progression guide

[oak crow]

Bring back the old skeleton prime😭 😭 😭

[distant raft]

no

[hoary edge]

hell nah these two gotta stay locked up 😭

[arctic cliff]

partners in crime

the crime of violating sensible boss design with referencing something without understanding it

[grave rock]

wut

[grave rock]

wtf was this ass sprite

[dry whale]

people be like "bring back this stupid evil ass thing that nobody liked but it's good cuz it's old and removed"

[granite smelt]

no.

[distant raft]

we should bring back release malice exos to show them that old is in fact not good

[grave rock]

was ol' masdeath sprime a reference or sumn?

[distant raft]

yeah

[dry whale]

yes

[distant raft]

to a boss

for tconfig

[dry whale]

alpha and omega

[distant raft]

for terraria version 1.1

[vestal osprey]

Actually the old skeletron prime did do one good thing, it gave me an idea.

I doubt this will happen, but what if when you summon all 3 mechanical bosses at once, thier AI changes a to accomidate so if you want, you can do a mechanical mayham thats a bit more fun

[distant raft]

i have no idea why someone could attach so heavily to a genuinely ancient mod

[dry whale]

fabsolean

[grave rock]

was it exo avalon or wahtever

[granite smelt]

yes

[hoary edge]

I'd rather witnessing skeletron prime do the dance and getting blasted with rockets than seeing two headed skeletron prime that's just "random bullshit go" and calls upon the rest of mechs

[oak crow]

That's right, it used to be an Exo-Mech level, but now that I've started replaying it, I think it's an original Terraria boss. Casuals messing around again.

[lyric trellis]

Kill the mecha mayhem trope forever (outside of the already made boss for it which needs a rework badly)

[low bone]

So what is trasher stacking? And how it was fixed?

[vestal osprey]

Made boss for it?

[grave rock]

exos

exos do mecha mayhem and need a rework so that they dont get mogged by the x axis

[vestal osprey]

Exo mechs when I move to the left (Draedons magnum opus wasnt made for this)

[frail tapir]

[fathom scroll]

is that the new hardest difficulty?

[trail brook]

Yes

[fathom scroll]

thats sick

time for more cbt

[fierce hearth]

It's a joke difficulty but yes it is the hardest!

[distant raft]

easier than malice due to how much stupid bullshit gfb lets you have

like you just get to skip prehm because you get hallowed bars post eow

[vestal osprey]

Malice as of now is only a fraction of its true power, wait till more boss reworks come in

If malice DoG is anything to go by... malice bosses will be insane

[trail brook]

my only wish in life is master infernum

[distant raft]

mutant mod stat sliders set to 1.5x

[grave rock]

hope cal devs are doin alr

[vestal osprey]

Same

[meager lava]

why are betsy's weapons lowkey insanely good

i have never ever used them until now

[spark hearth]

Same

[hot wadi]

Malice:

[trail brook]

Its just a health and damage scale up

[grave rock]

just scale stats up

[vestal jacinth]

everything looks gorgeous omg

[trail brook]

Yeah my english is not that good

[fossil magnet]

hey so if palladium and mollusk has been nerfed is there really any reason for rangers to not use crystal assassin armour set? kinda seems overpowered now even if you dont like the dash since 13 defense this early is a crazy advantage over palladium and cobalt.

[trail brook]

[meager lava]

hey so im finally playing base calamity after months of infernum - is Lucky still the best reforge or should I switch to menacing now

[vestal jacinth]

Every prefix is balanced to be about the same in power now

[meager lava]

oh sweet

[trail brook]

Did you try to do that?

[vestal jacinth]

Hard used to give you +1 defense, now it's +5

[meager lava]

wait so is warding just absolutely insane now

[vestal jacinth]

no, warding is +4 defense and +0.5 DR

[grave rock]

? idk i dont play infernum lol

[meager lava]

so less defence than hard but more DR

interesting

[grave rock]

but master mode generally is literally just stat bloat

if u want master infernum just bump up boss stats 👍

[trail brook]

I need someone tried that so i can copy them cuz i might break the game lol

[trail brook]

Ok ill try

[radiant sparrow]

Like bigger HP but bigger damage numbers from you. And the boss?

[grave rock]

no just bump up boss stats

thats how vanilla does master mode lawl

isnt master infernum generally considered "easier" cuz u get an extra acc slot

[trail brook]

I forgot abt that

[grave rock]

but just dont do master

i think @distant raft suggest using mutant mod to multiply boss stats? that should work just fine

[trail brook]

Why do I need mutant mod Why can't i just do it manually

[trim jacinth]

you can only do hp in base mod iirc

[vestal jacinth]

calamity has its own Master mode AI

since like 2.0.3 or smthing

but it's goofy af, definitely less polished than rev or death

[radiant sparrow]

Like bullshit death goofy?

[lyric trellis]

Well death ai is just cal difficulty + master ai now

Solo master and rev-master ai is dead

[distant raft]

and infernum overrides cal hp

[gloomy grove]

which got axed

[trim jacinth]

aye

[vestal jacinth]

I mean, I'd rather have stat bloat over that

no thanks I ain't fighting prime with 2 skulls

that spawns destroyer and twin

[idle depot]

same i wonder who made the gun skin for the murasama?

[frail tapir]

I like gun (well what's stupid is, I can't play ranger at the moment cuz I am stuck with my touchpad on my laptop, my mouse is broken)

[wind niche]

what is the burrower?

[icy stump]

New critter in Caverns, It replaces Armored Digger

It illuminates nearby ores, if you hurt it, it will run away, unless you use electric debuffs

[hidden belfry]

And that will do what to the burrower?

If it's a critter can you uhh, use a bug net on it

[mystic eagle]

God I love Invisible Dye

[distant agate]

what magic weapon should I use for s-cal / exo mechs

[hoary edge]

helium flash

[distant agate]

seems a little slow now, no?

[gloomy grove]

is there something wrong with it being slow?

[distant agate]

just seems like its dps might be inconsistent against bosses is all

[pseudo vector]

helium flash's sheer damage makes up for its slow casting speed

it does A LOT of damage lmao

[distant agate]

hmmm ill give it a go then

ty

[hidden belfry]

Big damage slow speed

[distant agate]

god s-cal is like

my fav boss of all time

in any game

[hidden belfry]

Yes yes

[distant agate]

also her new arena looks very nice

[radiant sparrow]

Her fight is cool

[distant agate]

its so good

altho she is also about 10x easier than exo-mechs

idk if thats a hot take or anything

[abstract pendant]

Guys, is anyone having a problem with invisible turrets in the labs and the inability to deal damage with Murasama?

[radiant sparrow]

Nah I found her pretty easy

Sub 10 tries for me to beat her

[distant agate]

just beat her first try after dying to mechs like 5 times

mechs are just so much tankier

it also feels like s-cals damage has been giga nerfed, she wasnt hitting me very hard

[spark mist]

how big is the jump from death mode - infernum

[radiant sparrow]

I haven't fought the mechs yet but if you play well it's quite forgiving if you get hit

[distant agate]

ok just the mechs to go

its kinda insane how much better auric armour is than the tier below it, like obviously but man i dont remember it being THIS good

bosses that i was still kinda struggling with can barely hurt me now

[radiant sparrow]

I was doing a mage run pre brainstorm and I was getting whooped and cooked, the same bosses post brainstorm were nothing to me

[distant agate]

yea mage seems way better now

[jaunty scarab]

does this mod boost your early game stats like mining speed and stuff or is another mod have doing it? playing master infernum and early game feels easier than it should

[distant agate]

like i switched from warding to arcane and im tankier somehow, the lifesteal is just nuts

[radiant sparrow]

The bosses just hit way harder before

[radiant sparrow]

For supreme calamitas my lifesteal was actually fucking crazy

[tardy flax]

did the new update break the dupe menu for anyone?

[icy stump]

Electric debuffs stuns it

It won't move

[hidden belfry]

Oh damn, that's crazy

[tribal isle]

auric tier lawnmover upgrade

[twin bloom]

Instakills any plant enemies

[hidden belfry]

There's like...

A couple of them

[hoary edge]

auric tier absorber

[lean relic]

future doc editors if you are reading this, can you add those new backgrounds in doc
#calamity-update-talk message

[wind niche]

What does it drop?

[languid trellis]

Bum ahh new update, wtf are they doing all this years?

[icy stump]

Ores and a pet

And arsenal materials

[wind niche]

Lots of balance changes.

It's biggest update.

But pretty weak in content side

Ngl, idk if brainstorm was the correct call.

[wind niche]

Is the pet the thing for the universe splitter?

[icy stump]

Yes

[wind niche]

Saw it now needs something mentioning burrower

Right

[gloomy grove]

correct call for what

[wind niche]

Releasing

[gloomy grove]

how so

curious to hear your thoughts on why

[wind niche]

It's advertised as their biggest update but is kinda underwhelming. It has a shit ton of minor things, but it feels like it's missing the meat of the update if that makes sense.

[icy stump]

Almost all of content is in the SSO, that will be available in another update

[wind niche]

It's a good ammount of content but feels like just a side dish ig.

[pseudo vector]

it may not contain a lot of brand new content, but it revitalises a lot of the mod's old and tired weapons and accessories, and refreshes them to bring them into the "meta" per-se
that and it includes two of the most significant boss reworks the mod has seen in years alongside a bunch of other boss changes across the board, not to mention a full mod rebalance

[stuck kite]

id consider brainstorm to be a major polish update in a lot of parts

[halcyon seal]

I played cal during the 2nd biggest update (Draedon) and I can confidently say brainstorm is WAY bigger

[dense geyser]

did they add something interesting in the new update?

[stuck kite]

obviously something like food and drink particles aren't the main things people are looking out for but everything adds up

[halcyon seal]

Lots

[pseudo vector]

you could see it as a modernisation update of sorts, and a taste of things to come

[hoary edge]

[icy stump]

Also, there will be small updates more frequent

[stuck kite]

unironically one of my fav additions to brainstorm however i love particles

[pseudo vector]

the bar will be higher in terms of content quality with future updates as well

[halcyon seal]

Oh yeah I think I asked this before but since brainstorm is out, is SSO still planned to be two parts?

[pseudo vector]

we won't be doing an update this scattered yet huge again, trust me

[hoary edge]

I am definitely looking forward for the uhh arsenal armor and maybe some more arsenal weapons rework 👀
-# I know the mod just updated days ago but yea

[hidden star]

Oh that's how you're supposed to defeat it
I just let it be until I had something that could one-shot it-

[pseudo vector]

if we do a large content update again it'll be far more focussed than brainstorm was

but we don't plan on doing something this large again for a good while at least

[dense geyser]

when will they update class setup

[pseudo vector]

might take a while

there's 175 accessory and weapon reworks in this update

the "meta" likely has completely shifted

[tribal isle]

When will calamity update to 1.5

[pseudo vector]

when tmod 1.4.5 is ready

which won't be until later this year

[tribal isle]

When tmod inevitably merges with relogic will calamity mod support crossplay

[gloomy grove]

why do you think theyre gonna merge?

[hoary edge]

bro there's no way 😭

[vestal osprey]

Isnt tmod loader like already supported and endorsed by relogic?

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-shades-sunglasses-eyeglasses-cant-see-gif-17413466

its already endorsed by relogic with the notion of tmod being a whole other separate application from terraria

and some tmodders are now relogic employees like chickenbones and grox

but there is zero chance that tmod itself would merge fully with relogic

[icy stump]

There will be crossplay between PC and Console for Terraria, but no tmodloader

[pseudo vector]

crossplay would put so much more work on mod devs

the notion of having to account for other platforms with a mod like calamity is not one i think any of our programmers want to think about

[vestal osprey]

That would be hell

[gloomy grove]

in an ideal world it would be great yeah

but its not feasible

if someone were to donate one billion ozzabucks theyd probably do it though

[vestal osprey]

The fact that relogic is doing crossplay at all is incredable

[rotund charm]

I don't think it will happen, it's hell when u have to deal with different platforms (at for web dev)

[pseudo vector]

it would not be feasible for us to do it in a reasonable time

let alone with our sanities in tact

[vestal osprey]

Your mental fortitude would be fading

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/heonism-for-the-love-of-god-please-please-gif-24062262

[silent chasm]

I sure hope that the brainstorm art style will be the style for future updates.

[pseudo vector]

you talking about sprites or the artwork in the update trailer?

[silent chasm]

Sprites

[gloomy grove]

if triangle or dia dont spontaneously blow up it will probably stay?

[pseudo vector]

ig we'll try our best

[gloomy grove]

the "style" is whoever are their spriters as of current anyways

i like how triangle and dia does their rendering but its understandable that some people dont like it

[lean relic]

the triangle era

[silent chasm]

As long as it is consistent.

[civic frost]

there is a specific style tho no? u can clearly tell from almost every new sprit in each update

[gloomy grove]

the "style" is whoever are their spriters as of current anyways

[cunning sequoia]

ultimate calamity style

[civic frost]

lo

[pseudo vector]

calamity doesn't really have a set "style" to its sprites, its ultimately decided by which spriters do what

its moreso about the mod's overall art direction than sprites specifically

you could have the same ideas but sprited by different people it could look totally different

[civic frost]

yeah i guess "artstyle" is what we shouldve been referring to

[vestal osprey]

I cant really pinpoint a style

All I can pinpoint is that sprites keep getting better and better

[pseudo vector]

there's still some archaic shit in this mod though LOL

[civic frost]

i can

[pseudo vector]

we'll address those eventually

[civic frost]

thats how good the artists are, that i can tell its from clamity due to how they make their sprites

[mystic eagle]

217*

Don't forget how there's reworks that aren't necessarily tied to a class

[gentle narwhal]

hello, is the update playble in multiplayer? no big mods added, just a few QoL (fargo's mutant, prisma's juicebox, etc.)

[cerulean rivet]

It is stable yes, although yesterday I could not for the life of me get my friend in my local server, but a few days prior I could with no issues so make of that what you will

It was probably one of my mods that updated that cause it to break maybe idk but we both checked logs and didn't see anything wrong

[granite sapphire]

Arpeggio rework is so SLOWWW

[gentle narwhal]

hm, interesting. We will check it later, thx for the info

[naive sluice]

Is there a way to reverse the pogostick nerfs

[granite sapphire]

yeah, develop your own mod

[cerulean rivet]

Configuration settings maybe?

[naive sluice]

I cant code for shit 😭

[granite sapphire]

Also take into account you have to make the compatibility work with calamity

[sonic tiger]

Hello. Is 2.1 stable to play?

[granite sapphire]

It has been but yeah

[sonic tiger]

I've been seeing some rather crazy bugged videos so far.

[granite sapphire]

-# oh my God I'm so glad I'm away from my computer I heard that fuck ass foxy jumpscare

[granite sapphire]

Nothing at all for me has been buggy

I've done 2.5 separate playthroughs

Doing the third, which is mage

[sonic tiger]

Good to hear.

Did you try devourer of gods in multiplayer?

[granite sapphire]

no, I don't have non foreign friends

Just solo

my friends that do play modded are in like Germany or somewhere in Europe or asia usually

[sonic tiger]

So

What does the class tier list look like in 2.1?

[mystic eagle]

Unknown given not a whole lot of weapon testing is done so far

[sonic tiger]

I guess a lot of ppl are busy playing 1.4.5 too

[granite sapphire]

As of now for pure fun I like melee

[warped hedge]

has anyone got a ranger guide progression for the brainstorm update yet ?

[granite sapphire]

Just use the giga chart

[warped hedge]

whats that and where is it

[mystic eagle]

no. Most weapons are yet to be tested

[warped hedge]

alright

is it best to just follow the wiki still then ?

or a video

[granite sapphire]

Giga chart in pins

Shows the reworks and new stuff for both weapons, armors, and accessriiss

[sonic tiger]

update reworked over 100 weapons and accessories, as well as many bosses (particularly the Brain of Cthulhu in Revengeance Mode)

Hell yeah, the brain was a MENACE

[west glen]

King slime and eoc is harder

[sonic tiger]

Also how's skeletron?

[west glen]

Impossible, im on malice a d stuck to skeletron

[sonic tiger]

Yeah my friend and I who are very seasoned veterans just couldnt get past the guy on FTW revengeance death mode.

But that was a year ago.

[west glen]

Yea on malice he is too hard

Death mode too

[sonic tiger]

Like it was straight up impossible.

[granite sapphire]

I just sat down

This foxy mod

I hate it

[west glen]

Vanilla boss is always harder

[sonic tiger]

What's malice?

[granite sapphire]

Ftw death

master + death + ftw

[west glen]

Its the new name

[sonic tiger]

Ah, yeah that's what we played.

[west glen]

For death legendary

[sonic tiger]

Not doing that again.

Is there a downside to playing Drunk seed in Calamity?

[west glen]

I dont think, its better probably

[sonic tiger]

I very much enjoy drunk seed in the base game, since you just get access to both evil biomes and other nice goodies.

[mighty geyser]

shitting the bed

[steep path]

Not to mention the cleared out wof arena - super convenient. Works well for providence too!

[mighty geyser]

its cal ai had to be disabled in rev+ multiplayer due to the fabcode

[sonic tiger]

ya ya

It's not possible to mix and match secret seeds in calamity right now, the way you can in 1.4.5 right?

[unreal shuttle]

you can KINDA do it with advanced world gen mod but it also crashes the game when entering hardmode if you have infernum on

[unreal shuttle]

did the calamity community actually coin a new term for this

"fabcode"

[stuck kite]

redcode existed for a very long time it's only fair fab had it too

[unreal shuttle]

🔥

[mighty geyser]

fun fact i just learned recently: all rev+ enemy ai is in one file

[unique warren]

Why is it called Phantomic artifact and not Phantomic Soul Artifact 🤔

[steep path]

No 1.4.5 functionality unfortunately - but there is a mod called "Fargo's best of both worlds" that lets you choose specific effects from different seeds available in 1.4.4 (for example, combining drunk worlds' double world evils with celebrationmk10's ocean spawn point)

[mighty geyser]

its like impossible to open due to being so big

[unique warren]

Feels that a tad inconsistent with the others

[sonic tiger]

Is this the one that crashes the game?

[dull heart]

It's not a soul artifact

[steep path]

It's been a while since I've used it - haven't heard of it crashing recently? I'll look it up and see if ppl have mentioned it

[sonic tiger]

#calamity-update-talk message

[unreal shuttle]

devs can you add this jerma image as a painting that has a singular guaranteed copy of in each generated world and you have to find it in an underground house

like the egg sword and roxcalibur

or the dirtiest block

[unique warren]

Fuckin… huh

[unreal shuttle]

this would really add to the experience i think

[unique warren]

But it uses (insert thing here)plates

[mighty geyser]

true

[unique warren]

And exodium clusters

[mighty geyser]

the entity

[unreal shuttle]

people could make speedrun categories of them just trying to find this in a random seed world

[steep path]

This is what I found digging back - though your mileage may vary. Could test out a new world with a completed character so you could beat wof real fast and see what happens

But yeah may have to wait til it's fixed

[twin bloom]

This would be a great addition i think

[neat dock]

I'm assuming the calamity bobbers (ie wulfrum) give you better rewards than just doing it normally

[stuck kite]

yeah but isnt normality relocator one of those

[sonic tiger]

Mhm. Best to stay safe.

[stuck kite]

and you definitely cant call NR one

[neat dock]

bc otherwise it just seems slower

[steep path]

Best to just pop drunk seed on since it's the best one

[unreal shuttle]

normality soul relocator 🗣️ 🔥

[sonic tiger]

Absolutely. I just did a 1.4.5 playthrough with it and it's awesome.

[unique warren]

Alright good point lmfao

[sonic tiger]

0 downside, all upside.

[steep path]

Legit!

[unreal shuttle]

dungeon a bit annyoning tbh

[sonic tiger]

It does add a little challenge but eh.

[dull heart]

The soul artifacts were specifically the future boss spawn items and then a dedicated context of profaned soul artifact

the future boss spawn items were reworked with them no longer existing

[unique warren]

That’s fun

[unreal shuttle]

future bosses 🤮

[sonic tiger]

Nerfed Ankh Shield's defense boost from 8 to 4.
wtf

[unreal shuttle]

this doesnt really do much lol

[balmy saddle]

Mr sir play roots are you perhaps the one who designed black glass band and upgrades?

[dull heart]

We nerfed defense and boss damage the whole game

[dull heart]

No

[balmy saddle]

I just find it this thing a little bit weird from design perspective

[sonic tiger]

Yeah I'm trying to figure out the patch notes currently. It's a LOT to sift through.

[dull heart]

why

[honest oar]

Bruh

[dull heart]

This is because obsidian skull and all upgrades lost that

[sonic tiger]

How they massacred my boy...

[mystic eagle]

Wow what a game-changer

[balmy saddle]

Normal one is fine tbh, I'm only bothered my upgrades. First of all it scales of your highest dmg class but triggers only from certain weapons

[deep bough]

jerma before containment breach

[honest oar]

Obsidian skin potion: it's my time!

[dull heart]

wait do they really scale with highest class

Instead of ranger or magic

[balmy saddle]

Wiki said so

[dull heart]

they are specifically ranger and mage accessories lol

Well that's an oversight

[balmy saddle]

Secondly why make 2 versions that are technically side grades

[dull heart]

they are different and for different classes

[unique warren]

Isn’t that only the case with the upgrades?

[dull heart]

And their theming makes sense for them to be two

[balmy saddle]

But then don't let you choose which one you want since they are class locked

[dull heart]

We are talking about the upgrades

[balmy saddle]

But are they really that different?

[unique warren]

Uhhh it seems like the upgrades should work as intended

[dull heart]

Well they aren't side grades really they're just class specific upgrades

ranger for marble and mage for granite

[sonic tiger]

So wait, incoming dmg got reduced and player defense also got nerfed?

[balmy saddle]

As far as I known only differences are class, CD and dmg

[dull heart]

Yes

[balmy saddle]

Oh and marble one is aoe

[sonic tiger]

Was it to avoid hyperstacking defensive play?

[dull heart]

Yeah, cd, dmg, class, aoe

[dull heart]

It was to make calamity more friendly to other mods by balancing around the vanilla baseline

[balmy saddle]

So the only actually different mechanic aside from stats is aoe

[sonic tiger]

That sounds like a smart move. Does it still treat defense differently?

[balmy saddle]

But why give ranger aoe instead of single target

[sonic tiger]

Like is the math behind it different?

[dull heart]

I mean they upgrade from the same downgrade ofc they're super similar

[hot wadi]

Are the acidwood trees not growinhg a known bug?

[dull heart]

? dunno what you mean by that

[balmy saddle]

I just think it would be better to let player choose what they want rn

[dull heart]

Yes

Fertilizer works on em

[dull heart]

that would just cause players to stack both + they already stack with black glass

[wind niche]

is amphibians guitar any good?

[hot wadi]

quick fix is neat

[dull heart]

could make them mutually exclusive but that's lame

[sonic tiger]

I recall defense reducing damage by 0.5, rather than 1 or something of that sort. Could be remembering wrong tho.

[balmy saddle]

Oh I didn't think about

[balmy saddle]

Is it really?

It would be cooler to adjust them to ur current needs

[dull heart]

That's how vanilla works

Defense is 0.5x on classic, 0.75x on expert, 1x on master

[hot wadi]

see for yourself

[sonic tiger]

And Calamity doesn't change this?

[dull heart]

It does not

Well

[wind niche]

its a lot of work to get

[dull heart]

Except if you use Resilient Candle

[sonic tiger]

Gotcha, good to know.

[dull heart]

With candle it's 0.6/0.85/1.1 iirc

[wind niche]

id rather know if its good or not before grinding

[sonic tiger]

It's gonna be rough going back to no roller skates in Calamity.

[cedar coral]

OOOHH pbg now requires following the schematics so people don't slack on them

this looks too silly to be called doomsday device

[sonic tiger]

Could you summarize the various class changes? Like did any class get significant nerfs or buffs as a whole?

[mighty geyser]

:3

[balmy saddle]

Dude just put update logs in chat gpt

Don't torture devs for something like this

[dull heart]

Every class got significant changes

[mighty geyser]

doomsday device is prob my fav brainstorm weapon

its just so silly

[balmy saddle]

Main changes went to mage and melee

[high scaffold]

I got to post golem and Im realy liking weapon reworks

[sonic tiger]

Makes sense, those two were the weakest iirc.

(No idea about rogue tbh)

[high scaffold]

But what I dont like is that bosses don't allow me to true melee them

Which I hope will be fixed with reworks

[balmy saddle]

Melee never were the weakest

[west glen]

Is the duke, providence in this update consideres as a rework

[dull heart]

No

[mystic eagle]

It was the second weakest

[icy stump]

Rework are BoC and DoG

[sonic tiger]

I played calamity for the first time before the great melee rework, so most of my experience with it comes from that time.
But I've asked around on the discord since then and gotten the answer that summoner is king, melee is either weakest or 2nd weakest.

[west glen]

Why vanilla bosses are stil harder than calamity bosses ?

Im on malice

[sonic tiger]

I wonder how it all shakes up now in 2.1.

Exciting times!

[cedar coral]

i always felt like "rogue is weak" is a psyop because it never felt particularly weak for me; i am easily getting 3-4 adrenalines during bossfights and chopping 20-30% of the total HP using stealth every single time
every accessory is silent btw

[sonic tiger]

I just don't have enough experience to say.

[granite sapphire]

Silent does reduce your stealth damage by a bit just to lyk

Not too much to worry about pre hm but around golem or so lucky or warding makes a bigger difference for stealth rogue

[granite sapphire]

I don't think I could be any more clear

[unreal shuttle]

why

whyd oes it

[granite sapphire]

Dunno, it just does

[balmy saddle]

I mean this guy is not a dev

[unreal shuttle]

it doesnt even

say it

[granite sapphire]

Doesnt yell you either

[granite sapphire]

Ask a mod or dev, just saying

[balmy saddle]

I'm not asking anything btw

Just pointed out that u can't know why it does

Cuz u are not a dev

[granite sapphire]

just ask someone, silent reduces stealth damage

dunno why you're allergic to this information

[cedar coral]

i'm not minmaxing but that's nice to know, thanks

[balmy saddle]

Least Illiterate calamity player

[wind niche]

spooky armor is better than tiki right

[granite sapphire]

I assume you'd be the most illiterate then

[balmy saddle]

I'll try to explain it one more time

Falena the something asked you why it reduces stealth dmg

I told him that you (lightdancer) not a dev

[unreal shuttle]

[unreal shuttle]

[balmy saddle]

Therefore u have no way of knowing why it does that

[solemn crest]

From my experience, rogue is a class with the highest highs and lowest lows

[granite sapphire]

That's just not true

[cedar coral]

truth nuke

[unreal shuttle]

rogue right after moonlord is so ass

[solemn crest]

Yeah, pre provi rogue is miserable

But post dog?

Amazing

[unreal shuttle]

you dont know WHY
You know that it DOES happen
but you odnt know WHY it hpapens

[solemn crest]

Post Yharon it’s kinda bad tho tbh

[ivory basin]

The granddad works on bosses

[solemn crest]

I don’t really like how spam rogue is viable though. It makes it a little too confusing as to which rogue play style you should use each stage of the game

[balmy saddle]

Not true? So are you saying that you are a dev or/and you know why devs made stealthy reduce stealth damage?

[desert garnet]

Both are viable

You dont need to switch

[solemn crest]

Yeah but at each stage sometimes spam wins, and sometimes stealth wins in terms of strength

[desert garnet]

Obviously

Same with other classes

But all of them are good

[granite sapphire]

Supernova no reforge with all silent reforges, eclipse mirror, nanotech, venerated lock and defensive accessories 26890

[solemn crest]

So it’s a little weird to keep switching playstyles. Makes it feel inconsistent to me

Like sometimes you just ignore the class gimmick

[desert garnet]

Nothing forces you to switch

[granite sapphire]

Without silent

31319

[granite sapphire]

fuck you

[desert garnet]

Why wont you switch to a better class then?

[granite sapphire]

I'm right

Dick

[solemn crest]

Wanted to do a playthrough on each class

[balmy saddle]

im not talking about the fact of stealthy reducing stealth dmg, im talking about a reason why it does that

[desert garnet]

If you are really into maxing dmg by switching your playstyle

[granite sapphire]

It just does

[balmy saddle]

aka why devs designed it to do so

[unreal shuttle]

oh my god bro

[desert garnet]

Then you can do spam rogue and stealth rogue

[glad dirge]

yo, is malice removed?

[desert garnet]

Its the same with other classes

[granite sapphire]

Because if you just regained your stealth immediately then you'd be dealing more DMG than with lucky

[pseudo vector]

gfb / ftw exclusive

[glad dirge]

okay thanks

[pseudo vector]

its not meant to be taken seriously whatsoever

its a shitpost difficulty lol

[desert garnet]

Spam also have accs and weapon whose are better for using spam than stealth

Its like 2 diff classes

[solemn crest]

Yeah but it’s much less intuitive to tell which weapon is suitable for which playstyle, unlike melee/true melee

[desert garnet]

Didnt spam weapons got flurry strikes?

[solemn crest]

Tf is that?

[desert garnet]

Which are alt ver of stealth

[solemn crest]

Just fast attack rates

[desert garnet]

Weapons better for spam have their own version of stealth strikes

Which makes you attack faster

[solemn crest]

I mean yeah all rogue weapons have SS

but I was unaware there was another terminology for it

[desert garnet]

Idk if it was added in this update tho

[misty wren]

not yet

[desert garnet]

Im pretty sure you would use it in diff way

[young notch]

Has anyone gotten the chance to try the new Dazzling Stabber Staff yet?

[desert garnet]

Damn

[misty wren]

flurries are still a conceptual thing

[desert garnet]

Its a good concept tho

If spam will stay

[granite sapphire]

Two Very Generic Rogue Loadouts
One is Lucky, the other Silent

[solemn crest]

I’m guessing flurry strikes are gonna be like “uses your stealth, and then you go brrr”?

[misty wren]

basically

[solemn crest]

Ok yeah that’s a good idea for rogue then if spam is gonna stay

[misty wren]

just a way for more spam oriented weapons and loadouts to be able to better use stealth

[solemn crest]

It’ll help differentiate which weapons are better spam vs better stealth

[uneven vale]

Checking in. Is the update being received any better than before?

[balmy saddle]

althrougth you are illiterate i can respect you for trying to prove ur point

[desert garnet]

Its good

[wind niche]

?

[desert garnet]

But some says the mod is dead cuz they removed qol

[wind niche]

guide setups i dont think mentions it

[granite sapphire]

Generally slower weapons have better stealth strikes, but also short ranged weapons like cosmic kunai, sometimes even fast weapons but that's less often

[misty wren]

it reduces damage because easily spammable massive damage hits is a bad idea

[uneven vale]

Oh, hush

[misty wren]

you're trading more stealth strikes for maximal damage per stealth strike

[dull heart]

So uh

Apparently orderbringer can get sub-3:00 exos

In testing gear

[granite sapphire]

yeah it does need a nerf ngl

very powerful weapon

[ivory basin]

Granddad does knock back to bosses

[dull heart]

Only post scal and exos

[vestal osprey]

Whats the average time for exo mechs? I havent fought base calamity exos in forever

[granite sapphire]

Though it's not very fun

[orchid finch]

hey doze

what are the exact SCal arena measurements

asking for a BR arena

[vestal osprey]

I know it actually changes during the fight now

[orchid finch]

yeah that's what I'm asking about

the max possible height and width

[misty wren]

testing time for pre scal is 5:30 post scal is 5:00 which is very often skewed lower ingame because testing is ripperless

[vestal osprey]

I completely forgot what regular exo mechs are like

I tried wrath of the machines once and there was no going back

[granite sapphire]

Unstable Casters Gauntlet is probably one of the most unique patron/donor items I've seen since Drakovi's pole

Also the new cosmic rainbow is really cool

Instead of being just a bigger rainbow gun

I also liked the countermeasure glove, really creative, I really just love gauntlets and glove weapons, even if they're magic

[unreal shuttle]

this progression skip is always awesome

[balmy saddle]

spamton neo?

tf?

[unreal shuttle]

OH

empress of light lMAPOIOSDFGIO

[balmy saddle]

lol

[vestal osprey]

Insert elephant begging to be adressed

[balmy saddle]

and this isn`t even a skip?

[unreal shuttle]

early ancient manipulator

[balmy saddle]

all those bosses are optional, i think

[unreal shuttle]

they drop really good loot and materials

[polar tide]

thats not what progression skip means

[rancid pagoda]

literally no skip happened

[unreal shuttle]

lack of a better word

[icy stump]

Progression skip is Lunatic Cultist before Plantera

[balmy saddle]

skip is killing fishron in pre hm using bait from shrine

[polar tide]

bad

regular exo mechs are bad

[balmy saddle]

and you know why?

they don`t drop any magic weapons

f tier boss

[polar tide]

true

[icy stump]

What

They don't?

[balmy saddle]

i think so

[polar tide]

they dont

[unreal shuttle]

why are frozen wings faster than fishron wings

[vocal dew]

https://youtu.be/KwadSVIrMgI
shroomed dog clear DONE...!

[unreal shuttle]

fishron wings are a lot faster vertically but slower horizontally

[balmy saddle]

why

[vocal dew]

bored...

[icy stump]

Each wing have their own mobility stats instead of other stats, like damage or defense

[balmy saddle]

oh my god ur arena is so huge

please tell me you made it using mods/world edit

[vestal osprey]

I wouldnt envy having to work on the revengence ai.

By the fact exos is one of the end game bosses and its 3 in 1 its gonna most certainly be one of the most difficult to make

[young notch]

Because Draedon was renowned worldwide for his proficiency in magic

[vocal dew]

was cheat sheeted yeah how many years was it idk...

[balmy saddle]

a god does not fear death btw

[hidden belfry]

Oh god, it's so confusing to look at 😭

[balmy saddle]

god fear unemployment

[vocal dew]

-# sigh... MAN do i wish actually getting a job is easy...

[minor widget]

yall recommend melee or mage, my other two fellows are a ranger and summoner

[wide wadi]

guys i beat the wall of fleash

[hidden belfry]

Melee

[vocal dew]

-# its nothing but declines or impossible entry requirements...

[wide wadi]

took me hours because i couldnt find a voodoo doll demon

[minor widget]

[hidden belfry]

Mage is a concerning hellish nightmare

Melee is just... Melee

[young notch]

Didn't Brainstorm make it better

[minor widget]

but i remember day 1 people say mage got alot of buffs

[balmy saddle]

nah dude not judging you, just had to insert generic jobless joke

[balmy saddle]

mage

def mage

[minor widget]

duality of people

[hidden belfry]

Idk, didn't feel any different

[hasty tangle]

brainstorm made it insanely op with star beam rye, but it got re-reworked in 2.1.1

[minor widget]

look ive played melee countless times b4, and mage once, honestly i still think melee felt smoother even back then. What does current mage have to offer? @balmy saddle

[glad dirge]

where do u craft it / activate it?

[pseudo vector]

play on the for the worthy / get fixed boi seeds

[balmy saddle]

im a mage purist but my friend is forever melee player, mage has pretty much the most unique weapons and accesories

some of them were heavily reworked this update

[summer shore]

Mage got a lottt of new interesting ways to use mana compared to the previous "just chug mana potions" playstyle it had

[balmy saddle]

the early game proggression can suck a lot

[zealous drift]

is stealth gone from the game ?

[balmy saddle]

but after hm it`s really good

[minor widget]

at what points does mage thrive in now?

[mystic eagle]

No.

[balmy saddle]

i cant say about being strong, but i start enjoying it ALOT early hardmode

also i recommend crimson for life drain (one of my fav weapons) and the great tome of piss

[summer shore]

Early hardmode has like 4 awesome mage wrapons

[minor widget]

those have always been in my inv when i get them so its ok

[summer shore]

SHPC, death valley duster, vulcan, ion blaster

All amazing

[balmy saddle]

and overall early hm has some great mage weapons

but pre hm sucks

[zealous drift]

so do you know why i cant see my stealth bar?

[balmy saddle]

genie lamp, sky fracture

[hidden belfry]

Everglade spray oh my hero 🥲

[mystic eagle]

What armour are you using?

[zealous drift]

snow ruffian

[mystic eagle]

Check the set bonus

[minor widget]

its just i think last i played mage was 2-3 years ago? so got any resources i can refer to for progressing? i think ill just weigh the pros and cons on both to decide. I know how to melee, ranger and rogue like second nature but not summoner or mage.

[zealous drift]

no stealth but in the wiki say its +50 so that why im wondering if they removed it

[balmy saddle]

honestly just open the calamity wiki and vanilla wiki weapon pages and pick the weapon you like

since mage has pretty much the best weapon variety

[mystic eagle]

Make Desert Prowler armour

[zealous drift]

aight thx

[balmy saddle]

also i REALLY recommend getting forbidden armor it`s so fun

[minor widget]

aight

[analog heath]

is Daedalus Bow drop rate nerfed?

I've killed almost 70 hallow mimics no drop

[hollow harness]

You might be very unlucky

Keep trying

[analog heath]

never seen this before haha

[young notch]

What other mods are you using?

[mystic eagle]

Are you fighting Mimics in the Hallow or are you fighting Hallowed Mimics

[analog heath]

Hallowed mimics bro

[mystic eagle]

Show your modlist. Press f8 twice ingame and screenshot

[young notch]

https://tenor.com/view/wack-hannibal-glasses-gif-14589639

[analog heath]

am i cooked

[young notch]

Definitely another mod causing it but I couldn’t tell you which one

[analog heath]

shi

[unreal shuttle]

wtf is "bottled panacea"

[mystic eagle]

Who put Panacea from Future Redeemed in a bottle and made her unobtainable

I'm old!

[vestal osprey]

You have recipe browser, look up daedalus storm bow and see if its still a drop

[unreal shuttle]

actually beemaxxing rn

[analog heath]

it appears under hallowed mimic as a drop still on the bestiary section

[vestal osprey]

Yeah that is strange, none of those mods should affect rng

[analog heath]

i think a mod is conflicting it because its showing the hallowed mimic to also drop other items, that I haven't dropped...

[dull heart]

why do you have omniswing doesn't it do nothing

[analog heath]

all i seem to be dropping from mimics is Star cloaks, cross necklaces, magic knives and titan gloves

[dull heart]

since auto fire is a vanilla setting

[dull heart]

That's just normal mimics drops, not hallowed mimics

[analog heath]

so my hallowed mimics are registering as normal mimics

[dull heart]

You are fighting the miniboss ones that spawn with key of light and can like, reflect projectiles and such ?

[unreal shuttle]

for everyone here that is confused about "spamton neo" in my boss checklist @balmy saddle @limpid grail @vestal osprey

[analog heath]

I thought u can build underground hallowed mimic farm no?

i am dying to hallowed mimic if they kill me, that's what chat message says

[dull heart]

Technicallt yes, but they're quite rare

[analog heath]

I have killed 60+ in this farm

i will try spawn one and see if drop table is different

[analog heath]

yes looks exactly like that

[dull heart]

hmm

Very odd

[young notch]

Surely one of those mods has to be doing the trick

[orchid finch]

hi doze

I got the measurements

[analog heath]

seems that it drops the normal loot table if i spawn the mimic myself

[orchid finch]

objection

relevance?

[unreal shuttle]

guess i cant share things i wanna in here

[orchid finch]

sir/ma'am this is calamity update talk

your screen is neither calamity nor update

[unreal shuttle]

well there is abyss gravel

so

[orchid finch]

👎

[unreal shuttle]

there is uh anahita in there

[vestal osprey]

But it is talk though