calamity-update-talk

[granite sapphire]

cuz its fabsol

[unique warren]

Yeah and I agree with the other devs

[formal plover]

sadge I liked it

[granite sapphire]

fabsol cohosted like a nsfw server and allowed children and minors, transphobic, and other stuff

[unique warren]

They did, but iirc the avalon people weren't a big fan of its inclusion? It's still sorta here anyways so who cares

[halcyon seal]

And most importantly he was just an asshole

[granite sapphire]

also sucked at balancing

[wary crest]

I was shredding Dog with pre providence gear and now I'm barely getting through his first phase

[halcyon seal]

Like there’s a reason nobody was particularly sad when he got outed

Obviously we’re sad for people related to him but not Fab himself lol

[formal plover]

Alrighty then

[granite sapphire]

honestly wasnt in the server that long but from the little i know yeah

[rich ginkgo]

i think his favorite person to argue with was reb

whenever i was in here back then those two were always arguing over the game

[unique warren]

Orderbringer is cool so ya

[granite sapphire]

and anytime something goes wrong in my life i blame fabsol

[radiant sparrow]

That's actually crazy

[dull heart]

true

[distant agate]

any reconmendations for magic weapons for yharon?

[deft lily]

did cei leave?

or smthing

[unique warren]

Ngl this is kind of an embarassing recipe

[radiant sparrow]

How so

[unique warren]

There's usually more interesting stuff

[cunning sequoia]

yeah she left the dev team

[regal vessel]

This is for elemental gauntlet?

[unique warren]

For example

[deft lily]

sad
hope shes doing okay

[formal cliff]

That's more cumbersome than interesting

[tropic jolt]

usually upgrades are more than just "add one extra resource"

[tropic jolt]

but I don't think this is any better 😭

[formal cliff]

"Have a bit of everything" is cool for endgame gear

[unique warren]

It has more going on but go off

[formal cliff]

yeah, it's got a tad too much

[gloomy grove]

i prefer stuff like this over the image above

[unique warren]

Both images are above

[gloomy grove]

[dull patio]

i was a little disappointed when the intro of dogs phase 2 didn't rhyme with the song but the fight looks so cool

[tropic jolt]

having 6 different required resources does seem a bit bloated unless it fits thematically which I don't think it does

[unique warren]

It's the debuffs iirc

[low bone]

@dull heart Like wth i cant replicate issue with summoner its just sometimes breaking i find just one correlation its breaking every time if i keep tured on those mods

[mellow nebula]

Thank goodness

[cobalt wharf]

elemental gauntlet look inside no elements

[formal cliff]

It's the 4 elements togethers actually

At least the 4 pylon ones

[cobalt wharf]

the elements of halloween christmas and solar eclipse lookouts

[rich ginkgo]

bunch of random garbage mashed together

[unique warren]

It's also funny that elemental weapons no longer use galactica singularities

[unique warren]

Again, it's based on the debuffs

Silly

[harsh plume]

restarted game, void eater marionette still not working

[unique warren]

No boss checklist, does it work in singleplayer?

[tropic jolt]

I don't really see how effulgent feathers and solar fragments fit into that

the plague and depth cells I get though

[thorny elm]

anyone elses bosses got reset when then loaded their world, all my cal bosses are not "killed" and my community is at like 30% now

[tropic jolt]

but at the end of the day its just a nitpick anyways

[unique warren]

Wiki page isn't updated

[tropic jolt]

by chance did you fight the bereft vassal

[thorny elm]

...is that the reason

[tropic jolt]

boss checklist causes that issue when fighting the bereft vassal yes

to prevent it from happening you could replace boss checklist with boss checklist lite

[unique warren]

Use checklist lite, pls

[harsh plume]

boss checklist and summoner ui both turned off. will test in single player next

[unique warren]

Sure thing

[halcyon seal]

In fairness it is called “The Amalgam”

[thorny elm]

but why would that affect my community?

[halcyon seal]

If any item was to have a bunch of different ingredients it’d be that

[vivid thicket]

Calamity Fables is working with the newest update?

[halcyon seal]

It wasn’t working with the previous update

[dull heart]

Actually it makes sense

[unique warren]

Actually, there's more!

[dull heart]

Each of the materials is tied to the debufds it jndlifte

[harsh plume]

@dull heart ok so both of us restarted our game, and i restarted the server. neither of us cannot summon void eater marionette at all now. same flash thing just happens

[unique warren]

jndlifte

[dull heart]

Luminite for Voidfrost
Solar Frag for Daybroken
Feathers for Vermilion Flux
Plague Canister for Plague
Depth Cells for Crush Depth

Not voidfrost

[tropic jolt]

its an issue with boss checklist falsely marking bosses as undefeated which causes the community to also think they are undefeated

[dull heart]

Nightwithwe

Nightwithwr

[thorny elm]

gotcha, thanks

[unique warren]

Yeah like it has some sort of interest in terms of crafting recipe instead of just the thing it is an upgrade of + the material you just got

[tropic jolt]

well I guess it fits the items name after all 😂

[dull heart]

it fits both name and function

[harsh plume]

void eater marionette does not work in single player either now, for me at least

[halcyon seal]

The void ate it

[unique warren]

Could you show us what it looks like?

And do you have any other mods on? Maybe remove all mods except basecal?

[tropic jolt]

void eater? I sure hope not...

[harsh plume]

want me to upload a video somewhere or stream in VC?

[dull heart]

Do you have Summoner UI

[harsh plume]

disabled atm

[unique warren]

They have it off now

[unique warren]

Would here be fine?

[dull heart]

How about Boss Checklist

[harsh plume]

also disabled

[dull heart]

urghhhh

[woven geyser]

my friend and I started a master/death mode playthrough a week before the recent update. Now after the update, the game seems quite a bit easier than when we previously played through calamity. We kind of dumpster every boss on our first try. And we do still have death mode enabled

[unique warren]

Nothing is messing up for me with just basecal so I'm wondering if there are other evil fucked up mods

[inner timber]

master death was nerfed because it was abysmal dogshit 🔥

[low bone]

@dull heart So i disable every mod i have aside from calamity and its seems like some issues is still around like my summons (Brittle stars) are still disappearing and i cant reset of any of my summons but other dont seem to disappear anymore

[dull heart]

if you restart tmod does that stop

[harsh plume]

yeh gonna need a few minutes tho, need to do something irl first, low blood glucose, fucking diabetes

[low bone]

Not really i can just restart world and it fixes it

[unique warren]

Yikes, that's rough man

[harsh plume]

its shit, would not recommend 😂

[low bone]

Thats so weird actually

[harsh plume]

hopping in VC 1 now

[balmy violet]

I updated Calamity at the same time as Tmodloader and the game started crashing. I don't understand if it's because of Calamity or Tmodloader itself

[stiff hinge]

i was scrolling reddit when i saw this piece of legitimate art

[formal cliff]

Incredible

[low bone]

Actually peak

[dull heart]

Lol

[trim jacinth]

I can see that the update made the balance of bosses in shambles, they die so quickly and even without rage and adrealine (in death mode also)

[vocal kelp]

awesome

[trim jacinth]

but it's still positive in a way because the mod is healing

[vocal kelp]

its good bosses do not take long because they are all bad

[trim jacinth]

well, maybe not the hardmode ones i don't know

[uncut briar]

is malice going to try to be “balanced” as uber difficult

[vocal kelp]

no

malice isnt a mode

[gloomy grove]

iirc no

[vocal kelp]

its just how legendary + death is called

it doesnt have anything

[gloomy grove]

its just death mode renamed to malice and will be kept as a joke dificulty iirc

[uncut briar]

is there no explicit changes with legendary?

there’s a noticeable difference

[vocal kelp]

vanilla's

afaik all calamity vanilla mode changes were removed

[unique warren]

Pretty sure malice DoG has explicit changes

[vocal kelp]

so itd just be like vanilla ftw + death

[trim jacinth]

honestly the monsters in preharmode are worse than the bosses themselves for now (i meant they're more difficult than the bosses for now)
Queen bee was okay tho

[gloomy grove]

malice DoG has changes because doze found it funny or something

tickled their funny bone

their silly bone..

[vocal kelp]

at doze do not do this man

u dont want there to be precedent

[uncut briar]

That’s what I thought yeah

Oh it’s just DoG?

[unique warren]

Idk but I know it is the case for DoG

[vocal kelp]

it is just dog

all other bosses do not have unique changes

[unique warren]

Could be for others, which is fine cause it's a mode in and of itself

[vocal kelp]

itd jsut be their death ais

[gloomy grove]

all other bosses just have death ai yeah

[vocal kelp]

with legendary crap thrown in

[uncut briar]

Kind of a big mistake to call it malice lmao

[formal cliff]

btw what's malice ?

[uncut briar]

alr

[unique warren]

Not particularly, no

[harsh plume]

@unique warren im here if ya wanna have a look

[uncut briar]

(point in case)

[unique warren]

Sure thing

[uncut briar]

It def is, naming it, esp naming it malice has the effect of making it an “experience”

but this isnt the place to try to have that discussion

[harsh plume]

VC 1

[unique warren]

I mean it sort of is

[gloomy grove]

i do understand that naming it malice would have people expect it to have even newer ai if they arent informed

[unique warren]

Oh uh, no thanks sorry, VCs stress me out

[gloomy grove]

it would also expect some to see it as what malice actually was

which ive seen some people ask here already

[formal cliff]

I'm assuming it's a modded difficult mode, but I have no idea

or the boss rush variant ?

[gloomy grove]

what boss rush variant

[harsh plume]

dw, me too lol, just thought its easier to show in stream rather than record and upload to youtube 😄

[formal cliff]

bosses are slightly different in boss rush

[gloomy grove]

are they?

[formal cliff]

according to the wiki at least

[unique warren]

Should be able to just send a clip here

[deft lily]

if ppl interpretate it the wrong way then thats on them

[fallen prism]

I mean they kinda had to have a generic-edgy sounding difficulty name

[gloomy grove]

as far as im aware they just have jacked stats

[deft lily]

🤷‍♂️

[fallen prism]

[harsh plume]

ah, let me screen rec and try

[sonic solar]

how do you deal with the phase where the brain spawns a lot of clones? (death master mode if it makes a difference)

[unique warren]

It does make a big difference

[gloomy grove]

lets go gambling

[uncut briar]

i mean if there's no changes(for the most part) if its just legendary death why bother

it presents itself as an experience intended to be played

people'll say rev/death/malice

[gloomy grove]

if people want death ai on legendary/ftw they can select malice, since you cant select legendary and death at the same time on the difficulty selector anymore

[uncut briar]

wild that it wasnt just compressed

but its their choice to have it so

[deft lily]

anyways

[deft lily]

you just deal with it duh

[spark belfry]

Black glass band does work with summons, this will be nice pre-hardmode

[unique warren]

Have you forgotten the ancient ‘rule of cool’

[deft lily]

?

what does that even mean

[unique warren]

If it sound cool you do it

[uncut briar]

no

that rule is how calamity got to its state

[unique warren]

Malice sounds cool, so they named it that

[unique warren]

Nah a lot of changes were just not cool

Fabsol made a lot of not cool changes

[uncut briar]

im not engaging with this

[gloomy grove]

i feel like mrrp would know very well...

[deft lily]

sure but then... why bring it up at all?

[harsh plume]

@unique warren

[uncut briar]

free will, couple people do understand

?

[unique warren]

Alr, I suppose

[deft lily]

ok

[unique warren]

Now unequip everything, tell me if it does the same (no need for video)

[low bone]

I can screen record my issue too if needed

[unique warren]

Does it look the same as theirs?

[amber swallow]

did they change star beam rye?? it used to be mana damage on how much mana the weapon consumed when 2.1 released now its its a 0.9x damage multiplier

[gloomy grove]

they changed it yeah

[amber swallow]

[low bone]

Actually completely different

[gloomy grove]

it one shot scal i think its fair to nerf the alcohol

[unique warren]

Then sure thing

[harsh plume]

unequipped everything, still does the same (tried relogging to the world also)

[old laurel]

wow shush you were right, cryogen is a huge step up from pre hardmode after upd

def not insanely difficult

but its rlly not thaaaatt easy

[unique warren]

Ok yeah def upload a bug report here, mention your modlist, just generally do everything the readme in that channel tells you to do

Cause this seems like either a basecal issue or smth on your end

[low bone]

So yeah @unique warren

[old laurel]

Cant wait for future upds

[low bone]

Only mod is calamity Btw

[old laurel]

so you can keep the buff?

while having a diff summon out?

[low bone]

Yeah seems so

[old laurel]

damn thats kinda crazy

have you tested if it's not js visual

[harsh plume]

yeah its so weird. now that i restarted the tmod and went straight to single player, its working fine again. but if i now do it on the server so that it bugs out again, it doesnt work in single player either before i restart tmod. dedicated server is running on a separate windows 10 machine in our home network

[low bone]

Thats just visual its not really a buff just effect of your summons

[unique warren]

Yeah, not much else I can do here, good luck with all that

[old laurel]

doesnt that summon give you more defense for every summon you have out

[low bone]

Only if summon exist

[low bone]

So what you say?

[timid ibex]

I have the same issue after 2.1.1 in 2.1 it was working fine

[unique warren]

I mean, make sure to do a bug report ya

[dull heart]

i mean we need a button to show up on the screen there

bc the selector has both vanilla and cal difficultie

unless legeendary jsut flat out doesn't allow cal difficulties

like it's either

• own difficulty
• use death twice
• no legendary cal difficulty

[low bone]

My ass is too lazy for this

[dull heart]

own difficulty is 100% the best choice of thise

[wide wadi]

tf is that brain choose

i only have the 5

[gloomy grove]

?

it only shows up on legendary worlds

[wide wadi]

i am playing on master mode with death

[unique warren]

Which is notably not legendary

[wide wadi]

hmmm

[dull heart]

it's the Legendary calamity option

notice the explosive bunny

[radiant sparrow]

is the cosmilamp or the dazzling stabber staff better?

[gloomy grove]

notice the bunny that blows up

[dull heart]

stabber

[pearl nest]

not entirely sure which server to ask this in so i might ask this question in both but does anyone know if the masochist - death mode inherit all of the new boss ai changes and item changes from the brainstorm update?

[harsh plume]

dazzling stabber is nuts

[dull heart]

depends on if you pick Calamity or Souls priority

[radiant sparrow]

i assume the dragonblood dsigorger is better than the king of constillations?

[deep bough]

use fargos dlc to choose priority

[dull heart]

worse for dmg, better for survivability

[pearl nest]

bc the fargos calamity dlc was updated

i see

thank you

[old laurel]

devs, frigid flash lowk needs a nerf

why is it so amazing

[gray trench]

LETS GOOOO

[harsh plume]

ok interesting 😄 all that time i was in SP, killed a few bosses etc... no issues with the summons (lilies of finality & void eater marionette) after i restarted and went straight to SP. left the SP world, logged back on to the server (alone) and worm staff is instantly back to what it does in the video i posted 🤔

[tight karma]

Did they change the Theme for draedon?? I changed nothing and suddenly its a metal song xD

[inner timber]

clearly the correct option is to make malice like old malice

[tropic jolt]

maybe you're using the infernum music mod?

[tight karma]

Already checked thats not it. And its also disabled because it was incombatible a few days ago

[tropic jolt]

well the normal theme is inferior fabrications

[tight karma]

Ah i figured it out. It was Wrath of the Machines. Even while its disabled it still swaps the music

[tropic jolt]

makes sense

[tight karma]

which is weird

but oh well, its mega bugged for me anyways (sadly)

[dull heart]

lol?

[tight karma]

Roots summoned

[icy stump]

BoC defeated, it's a great boss fight

[gray trench]

Guys

[distant agate]

any reconmendations for magic weapons for yharon?

[gray trench]

Has anyone beat malice dog without cinnamon roll

[granite sapphire]

does the ice barrage still exist

that thing shreds

[distant agate]

yes but it seems way way way too slow to ever hit him

[granite sapphire]

mostly good for inf but base cal still works

[distant agate]

idk if it got reworked this update or something

[steep path]

was thinking of doing a mage playthrough and I saw the sbr rework-rework. Is star beam rye still like good to use or is it kinda mid now

[granite sapphire]

it sticks to enemies

[uncut briar]

Yeah my choice’d def just be no legendary cal difficulty

Not sure why there is one

[distant agate]

oh lol ill give it a go then, ty

[dull heart]

because players will want one

[granite sapphire]

anything that enters the aura it sticks onto

[dull heart]

even if it does not change anything

[granite sapphire]

i thought it was bad before i actually used it

[keen zodiac]

any resonable suggestions for killing malice golem

[granite sapphire]

on my christmas weapons

[keen zodiac]

cuz that boi has some hops

[granite sapphire]

its viable for post yharon too

[dull heart]

what is the main issue against him

[lyric vortex]

Trust me dawg event horizon is good for Yharon

[dull heart]

also I'd recommend spider staff

[uncut briar]

Doesn’t cal want to move away from that philosophy. Of like the difficulty mod

[distant agate]

ive been trying it and its not

[lyric vortex]

You can focus on dodging since all the attacks home

[distant agate]

its much worse than light gods brilliance

[dull heart]

yeah and that's why it explicitly has no content

[keen zodiac]

the boi is bouncier the flubber was

[uncut briar]

I’m not sure I see the downside of zero malice then

[dull heart]

but if cal changes are unobtainable on legendary people would complain

[uncut briar]

Cal changes to vanilla bosses ig?

[dull heart]

those, adren, rage, and like

All of the stuff that comes with death

[uncut briar]

And death isn’t toggleable in a legendary world?

[dull heart]

death is Master specific

Difficulties are tied to Vanilla difficulties now

[keen zodiac]

and malice is just legendary AI with death

[dull heart]

enabling Death sets it to Master

Enabling Rev sets to expert

[uncut briar]

Exclusively?

[dull heart]

yea

[tropic jolt]

future calamity players will be confused by the deep lore of malice mode 🧠

[uncut briar]

I don’t remember, is legendary still a seed? I never played with it

[keen zodiac]

it is still a seed

[distant agate]

ok idk if ice barrage got nerfed but it was also doing way worse than light gods brilliance

[uncut briar]

Is expert/master not applicable to it

[dull heart]

Legendary is for when FTW raises Master up by one level

[keen zodiac]

and its fucking hell

well mostly

[uncut briar]

So by default it’s still master

[rare tinsel]

Don’t play legendary

[upbeat hare]

They didnt fix the summoner in 2.1.1? 😭

[dull heart]

instead of Classic / Expert / Master, FTW worlds have Expert / Master / Legendary

[uncut briar]

Yeah I recall “legendary” being the joke seed

[keen zodiac]

malice is only for those who want to suffer

[keen zodiac]

no thats the getfixedboi seed

thats its own shitfest

[tropic jolt]

are they not all jokes

[tight karma]

Once upon a time, there was Malice mode. And it was shit. So it was banished to the hell of hells.
But then, Devs in Black and Gold shined their light upon us, blessing us with their newfound malice yet again.

[dull heart]

FTW is a bit of a joke but not as hard

[spark belfry]

Nope they did not

[distant agate]

ok i need a general gear check for yharon please

[dull heart]

We have yet to solve the problem

[upbeat hare]

Calamity is genuinely unplayable for me rn

[uncut briar]

That’s what I thought too

[icy stump]

Doze, do you want to see a funny bug that can shred anything?

[upbeat hare]

Good to hear..

[uncut briar]

It feels like FTW calamity would just be its own thing

[tight karma]

Whats the issue even? xD

[dull heart]

Sure

[lyric vortex]

Get rid of the boots and get Silva Wings

[icy stump]

Check the last bug reported in #1052323733961977947

[spark belfry]

Summons despawn sometimes, I've noticed it the most with enchanted knife staff

[tropic jolt]

id definitely say FTW is at least a half joke with stuff like tiny golem and reds potion

[dull heart]

Malice / Legendary doesn't add any AI changes, they're all on FTW in general

Malice is exactly the same as Death is (assuming you're on a FTW world) but with Legendary stats

[distant agate]

what would that even do for me

[dull heart]

It's literally just a name and button for the mode, like how vanilla Legendary is just a name

[old laurel]

theres no way mana polarizer is this insane now

[keen zodiac]

some of the malice bosses arnt too bad while others are just pain

[distant agate]

i can already fly to the top of the world

[distant agate]

idk man i just havent found something to replace it lmfao

[dull heart]

This looks so peak

[lyric vortex]

Increased flight time because you're gonna spend more time in the air against Yharon

[dull heart]

I'd personally use Silva wings tho

[uncut briar]

Yeah the name part is mostly what feels like a mistake

[lyric vortex]

Trust me dawg

[uncut briar]

From experience anyway

Cal players love ignoring any fine print and diving into the highest named difficulty possible

But gl

[halcyon seal]

Time travel to 2024 and show this build to a cal player to break their brain

[dull heart]

With Chaos Stone it is

[urban cloak]

i believe legendary in vanilla increases stats slightly beyond master

which is probably why we have it toggleable

[tropic jolt]

thankfully it only shows up on FTW worlds

[gloomy grove]

Truke...

[dull heart]

It does, correct

[halcyon seal]

Not slightly, it’s very significant

[low bone]

Any idea when summoner gonna get fixed?

[halcyon seal]

I think it’s 4x

[dull heart]

Not 4x

3/4ths

No

*4/3rds

So 33%

[old laurel]

is the calamity wiki class guide super outdated now

or does it still do its job

[keen zodiac]

areus for me had like 250k~ hp on malice

[spark belfry]

Fr?

[uncut briar]

That’s a button click away nowadays 💀

[distant agate]

is it that bad

[icy stump]

Yes

[uncut briar]

Still it’ll be entirely their own fault

[dull heart]

This is so peak

[fierce hearth]

It's several years out of date and no longer remotely useful

[tropic jolt]

surely calamity players are smart enough to not enable a bunch of secret seeds on their first playthrough of a mod

[keen zodiac]

cant wait for fargo to add masochist-malice mode

[uncut briar]

Beyond that like I said before it ends up presenting itself as something to be experienced

Calamity’s Malice Mode

[old laurel]

when will calamity recieve new whips

[uncut briar]

especially considering the origin of that mode but

[halcyon seal]

No it’s a pretty good build

[uncut briar]

Who Nose

[icy stump]

I don't know if works with other weapons

[halcyon seal]

It’s just VERY confusing if you haven’t played brainstorm lol

[distant raft]

there's one slated for sso and one in progress but thats all we know

[tropic jolt]

probably not until after the 1.4.5 port so they can balance any new whips with the vanilla whips

[fierce hearth]

Probably soonish but they're not coming until a summoner rebalance which who knows when

[distant raft]

likely the gar whip is gonna be the only cal one until summoner rebalance

[steep path]

I heard this is the difficulty mod so I am going to enable legendary malice mode + every single secret seed at once so I get the full experience

[distant raft]

unless summoner rebalance comes before fish hell

[uncut briar]

good old defiled mode

[icy stump]

Stress mechanic

[harsh plume]

remember to also play without monitor

[steep path]

True - it's kinda cheating to be able to look at what the boss is doing and react to it

[uncut briar]

You should rename malice to clown mode

I think that’d drive the point across

[tropic jolt]

lobotomy mode

[harsh plume]

you shall only listen to the boss

[urban cloak]

calamity mode...

[tropic jolt]

💅🔨

🧠

[tribal isle]

Are you even playing the game if you’re not doing lawnmower only

[hard copper]

fogbound mode

[flat folio]

Iron heart anyone?

[uncut briar]

no thanks

[icy stump]

Armaggedon

[tropic jolt]

as a first time calamity player I will be enabling ironheart for the true calamity experience

[rare tinsel]

ture…

[uncut briar]

Frankly i dont even remember what iron heart did. It got super convoluted and changed over time.

[flat folio]

Steel Soul from HK but weird iirc

[rare tinsel]

it’s kinda cheating to know what the boss will be doing beforehand

[uncut briar]

something something steel soul hardcore mode

[tropic jolt]

you could say I have a steel soul 🛡️ 🩶

steel soul but only during bosses?

[rare tinsel]

if you’ve ever played the game before you’re literally cheating and should be banned for the honor of the server

[gloomy grove]

suspiciously steel soul shaped difficulty:

[hard copper]

I think it was no regen or healing potions too

[uncut briar]

Yeah

Yeaaah that’s what it was i remember now

[harsh plume]

tbh if you not playing with pen and paper, drawing the fight and doing all damage calculations in your head, you just suck at game

[uncut briar]

What the fuck it’s worse than i remember

what was he thinkiiingg

[urban cloak]

my only experience with this thing was enabling it during nohits so i could have a bigger acronym and look cooler

[fierce hearth]

I'm currently kinda stumped on my first Death mode mech boss and dunno what I ought to do for it. I built a nice spacious arena but find myself struggling to dodge any of them except for Destroyer, which I do piss damage to

[uncut briar]

thats the idea

[hard copper]

Oh god yeah the damage minimum, I wonder if that was like an early facetanking counter

[halcyon seal]

MAD? Nah, I prefer MAID

No wait iron heart was dead by the time malice came out wasn’t it

[flat folio]

Died in the same update Malice arrived iirc, ye

[urban cloak]

i think it survived a little after it came out actually

nvm

[fierce hearth]

Trying to use Serpentine against Death Destroyer to no avail

[uncut briar]

I think it was an emulation of having masks(?)

[flat folio]

Actually wait no I misread

1.5.1 vs 1.5

[urban cloak]

oh! i was right

[uncut briar]

man

[hard copper]

That makes more sense

[uncut briar]

i think i mightve spent more time in cal trying to undo fabsol things than making new things

[urban cloak]

yeah i vaguely remember the difficulty ui having three slots for malice defiled and ih

[uncut briar]

Iron heart riv lore items fall out guns resident evil guns malice mode

etc etc

[icy stump]

Use Frigidflash Bolt

[distant agate]

yay finally killed him

[fierce hearth]

I was worried it would be too DoT centric but I will give it a go 🫡

[lyric vortex]

Nice

[uncut briar]

Is slithering eels still wonky compared to serpentine

[dull heart]

hmm what seems to be the issue? Poor damage or poor survivability?

[urban cloak]

gonna be real i thought we removed this thing

[uncut briar]

I remember the serpentine projectiles were actually segmented and smooth and slithering eels which was added later just used a stick projectile

Looked ugly as hell

[uncut briar]

I thought you guys did too so I had to check

[urban cloak]

apparently got segmented in 1.5

been ages since i used it though so i cant remember how it looks ingame

[fierce hearth]

Against Destroyer it's definitely poor damage, poor movement against Twins, but I usually save them for last anyway because they're the most demanding for movement

[uncut briar]

WAOW!

good

[fathom girder]

Did all the biome relics get reworked btw? or was it just Luxor's

[west glen]

Did they buff or nerfed king slime in 2.1.11

[icy stump]

Accessory modifiers?

[icy stump]

Trinket of Chi got some tweaks

[fathom girder]

i seeeeeeeeee

[flat folio]

I remember....

The rotation was really really really strange

[lyric trellis]

Acid rain plans from 2024 were gonna remove it but obviously that hasn’t happened yet

[uncut briar]

lmao

serpentine is a good item though

[fierce hearth]

Kind of a mess of defensive and offensive, some warding, some menacing, lucky

[uncut briar]

very clear weaknesses and strengths

slithering eels is hard reheated nachos energy

[icy stump]

Try arcane

It should help

[west glen]

Did they buffed boc ? Because he is kinda easy

[spark kiln]

better not fucking remove it

[uncut briar]

known slithering eels fan

[fathom girder]

Slithering eels is like

the worst mage weapon ever

[tribal isle]

I wonder if there’s a single person out there that considers this their favorite weapon

[fathom girder]

why's it a hardmode thing it does like 20 damage

[tribal isle]

is it hardmode tho

[dull heart]

I like it

[fathom girder]

The enemy doesn't spawn until wof is defeated

[icy stump]

There will be a reddit user that loves it

[distant raft]

doesnt it have a bunch of armour pen

[dull heart]

yes

I think

[distant raft]

now its still not good

iirc

[tribal isle]

Does it even matter looking at its damage

[distant raft]

does anyone have an archive of the tierlist doc

[fathom girder]

I can do more dps using fire flower

[halcyon seal]

I used to be this guy because slithering eels used to be very broken

Like I distinctly remember this weapon being INSANE

[tribal isle]

When

[fathom girder]

slithering eels is the blade staff of calamity

has less dps than prehm weapons

is a hm weapon

[maiden mirage]

anyone else expering a bug with the Herring Staff?

[halcyon seal]

1.3, I think I used it during an old fargos DLC playthrough, before the mod became good

[distant raft]

lemme guess, summons are despawning and you have boss checklist enabled

[halcyon seal]

Or summoner UI

[tribal isle]

Remember when blade staff was good

[maiden mirage]

yes!!!

[fathom girder]

no

it was never good..

[maiden mirage]

do i need to disable boss checklist?

[tribal isle]

Dude it was peak

[fathom girder]

it does FIVE DAMAGE

[dull heart]

huh so

[distant raft]

this is true because 5+0=5

therefore it has 5 base damage

[dull heart]

Guess gladius still op oops

Didn't nerf hard enough

[distant raft]

also i was thinking of the sunken sea snake book that had armour pen

serpentine has 10 damage and 15 armour pen

[grave geyser]

I kinda knew it wasnt enough the moment I saw the change tbh
it was really tame compared to what stuff like deaths got

[distant raft]

no wonder i got em confused

[spark kiln]

shut the fuck up

[distant raft]

dude what the fuck is wrong with this weapon its BEEN shit

[spark kiln]

you wouldn’t know peak if it shit in your face

[fathom girder]

IT'S MID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[halcyon seal]

That weapon is INSANE in vanilla

[spark kiln]

yeah because they gutted it

it used to be great

[halcyon seal]

Yeah slithering eels used to be so insane

But it got nerfed to hell and back

Same with acid gun I think

[west glen]

They nerfed my beloved urchin mace so hard

[distant raft]

slithering eels got a 37.5% damage nerf (80 -> 50)

[spark kiln]

urchin mace is still really good

[grave geyser]

replace slithering eels with litterally any calamity weapon and theres like a 50/50 chance the statement remains true

[west glen]

Maybe i will try another class because 6 year i play only melee

[spark belfry]

WORM PALLL

[spark kiln]

what a load of horseshit

[distant raft]

its just not really done too much besides that

[west glen]

46 to 30🥀

[spark kiln]

some things cannot be forgiven

[spark kiln]

when

[west glen]

The last patch today

[grave geyser]

2.1.1

[spark kiln]

oh rip

i’ve been using it

didn’t need a nerf

[west glen]

Same, im at skeletron on malice

[vocal kelp]

which one of like fifty sea themed flails was urchin mace

[west glen]

And it was useful

[grave geyser]

its not a flail lo

[spark kiln]

victide

[vocal kelp]

i see

[west glen]

Sunken sea

It not work like a flail

[spark belfry]

I sea

[west glen]

It do a big aoe passthrough block piercing everything

[stuck kite]

i hate to break it to you but the other sea themed flail doesnt exist anymore and i hope you're not thinking of clam crusher or flairon

[icy stump]

This

[west glen]

My beloved 😥🙏🙏

Rip

[icy stump]

Maybe a little bit op

[west glen]

When they nerfed oathsword i used urchin mace, now what ?

[spark belfry]

I mean to be fair, it's still a little better than pre-brainstorm and it inflicts riptide now so

Not the WORST thing

[lyric trellis]

30 second EoC and sub-1 minute new BoC is a bit much

[icy stump]

Try Oarthsword with Old Lord

[west glen]

Oathsword is kinda slow and short range

[icy stump]

They have a sinergy

[west glen]

Never ised old lord but before the rework it was op

Oh

Nice

For Legendary malice skeletron need that

[spark belfry]

Good old pre-hardmode movement lord

[west glen]

Best prehardmod weapon

Fr

With oath

[delicate needle]

Is just boss checklist causing the summons to despawn or is there any other mods that are causing them to de-spawn randomly sorry if this is the wrong channel

[radiant sparrow]

is it just me who doesnt like ceasless at all??

[spark belfry]

I didn't think about other mods maybe affecting the summons disappearing, have you disabled the mod yet to see if it makes it so the summons stop despawning?

Because I've been having the same problem

[weary cave]

Is it been an issue for anyone else with multiplayer ceasless becoming immune in last phase and not dying at all

[sturdy stump]

anyone know why draedon power cells arent being generated?

[vocal kelp]

launched flails are flails what is this revisionist history but yes we meant urchin mace and urchin flail and like fugi or whatever

[delicate needle]

I just searched "Summons despawning" in this here cause I cant find anything else and it seems to be a much wider issue with 2.1.0 for some reason some summons just seem to be broken in some capacity and just despawn and some people are saying its related to some mods like boss checklist

[spark belfry]

Let me disable boss checklist and see if it helps

[eager bone]

i just fought brain of cthulhu... omg that was so cool i hope all bosses are revamped like that

[delicate needle]

Im going to see if my summons will stay uh summoned

its kinda hard to do a summoner run if my summons despawn rougly every ~30s

[spark belfry]

I would agree

[icy stump]

What Power Cell Factory are you checking?

[sturdy stump]

nvm figured it out

[delicate needle]

so far my summons have stayed summoned much longer than they typically do so promising looking but im not quite sure what causes them to despawn in the first place so im not sure if its just chance

[halcyon seal]

Do you have summoner UI

Or boss checklist

[harsh plume]

for me they just totally break if its multiplayer (at least on my dedicated server)

[delicate needle]

had boss checklist and no multiplayer I think it may have been boss checklist

what a odd thing to break summons

[halcyon seal]

It probably was

Boss checklist just does that

Don’t worry about it

[spark belfry]

Mine haven't despawned either

A little silly boss checklist bug

[harsh plume]

i got no summoner ui or boss checklist enabled anymore and it still happens... and if i join MP first and then SP, its broken in SP too. if i restart and go straight to SP, it works, and then if MP = breaks again

[spark belfry]

Odd

But yeah mine aren't disappearing anymore

[delicate needle]

Im not even sure how something like that would effect summons

[stuck kite]

urchin flail si dead

to directly avert that confusion

[spark belfry]

RIP urchin flail, I used you in one run and completely forgot you existed..

[delicate needle]

all im saying is that the lava in the brimstone area looks oddly drinkable

[tribal isle]

Does it

[spark belfry]

Looks like Fanta

[delicate needle]

It does

[old laurel]

skeletron prime is still the worst mech boss

by far

[spark belfry]

Oh that's a cute rogue weapon

[spark belfry]

Skeletron prime is a boss of all time

[delicate needle]

Lowk knife better than wolfrum imma say it

wolfrum do more damage but knife better attacks

[spark belfry]

I find them more interesting and they're around the same effectiveness so I agree

[delicate needle]

I like that they expanded early early game they already had alot more than vanilla did for early game but even more so with like the knife being a sorta wand of sparking / enchanted boomerang equiv

[spark belfry]

Oh fun little thing I figured out, I assumed it was possible but the black glass band works with summons so, pre-hardmode it's pretty good

[delicate needle]

nice might have to do that

[gloomy grove]

black glass band is pretty nice to use yeah

[delicate needle]

kinda jealous you got the despawning setup figured out early pre hardmode I had to deal with my summons despawning till just now and Im at early hardmode rn

[spark belfry]

It really is yeah

[spark belfry]

Well we got it figured out at least either way

[delicate needle]

me when summons despawn mid boss fight

[delicate needle]

fr

[old laurel]

its js a terrible boss dude

[gloomy grove]

im so curious on the summon despawning thing

my group hasnt experienced that at all so far

[old laurel]

if you think skel prime is a good boss your insane

[spark belfry]

Do you have boss checklist

[gloomy grove]

yeah

[delicate needle]

I never disagreed

[harsh plume]

allrighty, more testing done... disabled everything else than baseCal (summoner UI and boss checklist i disabled earlier, and now i disabled magic storage & its dependencies, and steam achievement fix). dedi multiplayer. same issue with Void Eater Marionette than in my video & earlier explanation, for both of us in the server. and after that its not working in SP either.

[spark belfry]

That's most likely it

[halcyon seal]

My fat fucking chud son is doing 100 damage on a critical hit ❤️

[gloomy grove]

we havent had anyone's summons despawn so far so im curious on how thats happening for yall

[old laurel]

idk why but in this upd the mech bosses are so hard for no reason

maybe because I have + 50% boss health on

[spark belfry]

Yeah for some reason it was happening, we just disabled boss checklist and they stopped despawning

fun little bugs

[old laurel]

I refuse to ever disable boss checklist

[delicate needle]

have you considred listening to white girl music whilst fighting bosses i've found it makes bosses like 30% easier

[gloomy grove]

boss checklist rolls a dice if it wants to mess stuff up

[old laurel]

lol

[mystic eagle]

Get Boss Checklist lite

[old laurel]

whats the diff

[radiant sparrow]

im post polter now, any summon weapon in particular i should get?

[halcyon seal]

It doesn’t cause bugs

[mystic eagle]

Lite is only the Checklist and bug-free

[gloomy grove]

stripped down to just the checklist

[spark belfry]

I mean, it's a bug with summons so if you're not doing summoner it doesn't matter to you

[harsh plume]

im pretty sure its not (just because of) boss checklist... it might affect it, but i have the exact same issues without any mod apart from basecal, if its multiplayer, or multiplayer and then single player without restarting the game

[delicate needle]

was boss checklist not just the boss checklist???

[gloomy grove]

no

it did alot of misc stuff

[old laurel]

I think it comes w boss log too

[spark belfry]

You might just be a special case ngl, I don't know what's up with you

[old laurel]

if im not tweaking

[gloomy grove]

boss log, kill timer, attempts, etc etc

it runs checks for items and such as well

[delicate needle]

damn I lowk never even knew or used any of those featured

[old laurel]

what was the qol they even removed from calam

[harsh plume]

its not just me tho, its also my wife and our friend who play with us

[spark belfry]

And they also have everything off like you?

This is such a weird bug

[gloomy grove]

you can check out the changelogs on the wiki i think

[spark belfry]

@delicate needle yours still haven't despawn right?

[harsh plume]

yes. we now tested with me hosting the game instead of running it from my dedicated server, same bug happens

[regal vessel]

erm

[delicate needle]

nah

[regal vessel]

why are you able to destroy all demon altars

[spark belfry]

This is so weird, it's fixed for us but not for auto and whoever they're playing with

[harsh plume]

can you try in MP with someone?

[icy stump]

To obtain Evil Smasher?

[delicate needle]

https://tenor.com/view/contemplating-thinking-gif-17339853886032698653

[gloomy grove]

is there anything wrong with that?

[delicate needle]

embed fail

[distant agate]

ok got the codebreaker fully built, ready to do exo-mechs tomorrow

gotta sleep now tho

[radiant sparrow]

is the calamari's lament worth getting?

[distant agate]

would you guys do mechs or s-cal first?

[regal vessel]

no i just didnt realize that you could make new demon altars

[delicate needle]

s-cal as first boss

[icy stump]

Scal has the new arena

[regal vessel]

was scared for a moment cause i thought i was softlocked out of making the terra blade

[dull heart]

It's good but there's newly reworked cooler options

[harsh plume]

the way it happens for us in MP every time: whoever summons Void Eater Marionette first, can summon it. they then drop the staff to someone else, and they cant summon it anymore, it just flashes. if the person who summoned it first, then leaves the game and re-joins it, they cant resummon it either

[dull heart]

Virid Vanguard or Sirius come to mind for newly reworked stuff

[radiant sparrow]

is sirius a main summon?

[dull heart]

Yes

wiki might be outdated

It got reworked in 2.1

[distant agate]

any particular reason?

[radiant sparrow]

how do i get virid vanguard?

[icy stump]

Is made with uelibloom

[dull heart]

That and two other items yeah

I'd recommend just looking it up on recipe browser

[delicate needle]

before king slime

[distant agate]

oh lmfao

im a bit past that sadly

[dusty tinsel]

do scal pre opening the game

beat her up irl

[harsh plume]

and in MP, at least Lilies of Finality still despawn for my wife after 30-60sec or so in a game i am hosting (buff icon stays, summons disappear). mine have not despawned yet in 5 minutes ish

mirror of kalandra despawns for her also

[dusty tinsel]

the what

[harsh plume]

feels like its MP related at least partially and not just boss checklist/summoner ui/whatever

[dusty tinsel]

is this addon stuff

[rich trench]

Didn't they remove weapon charge?

[dull heart]

Oops

We forgot about that line

[rich trench]

I remember there was also a line about the Drunk Princess that was forgotten about when she was removed

[dusty tinsel]

mods ruined because of this mistake sorry

[hasty hawk]

maybe, I dont see Plasma grenades needing charge anymore

[rich trench]

It's referring to the charge mechanic of draedon weapons

[hasty hawk]

System bane doesnt need it either

[rich trench]

nevermind, plasma grenade is a draedon weapon

[hasty hawk]

yep no item seems to use charge anymore

[harsh plume]

we only have base calamity enabled anymore. disabling everything else seems to make it slightly less severe in multiplayer (so far it seems normal to the host if hosting), but in dedicated we all have the same issue, just slightly less than when we still had summoner ui & boss checklist enabled. none of my summons have not despawned now in hosted mp and im the host.

void eater marionette is still completely broken, except if i go to multiplayer first to get it to bug out and then go SP @dull heart

[hasty hawk]

Charging Station still exists and works for some reason

[dull heart]

not true

[harsh plume]

idk if that info is of any use, but there you go

[dull heart]

seeking mechanism

[dull heart]

okay thanks

[dusty tinsel]

i don't know what those names are to comment on it lol

i thought it was addon content lol

[hasty hawk]

i see

[harsh plume]

oh, and dazzling stabber is NOT despawning for her either. dont have any other summon weps at hand atm

oh, i did have yharon's kindle staff in my piggy bank, that does not seem to despawn for either of us

[stone solstice]

something id love to see is the pointer turned into an accecssibility feature instead of an accessory. but absolutely love seeing it in the mod now

[rigid phoenix]

does wizard no longer sell rod?

[hasty tangle]

no, but the chaos elemental drop rate had been pretty heavily upped

its now 2% in expert+

[old laurel]

do yall know best mage weapons for scourge?

[dull heart]

probably frost bolt

[old laurel]

alr bet

[fathom girder]

Frost bolt bullies him

[old laurel]

kinda forgot how fun the twins were to fight

[potent elbow]

where in the world is this burrower guy

[golden cedar]

so quick question abt malice mode. im looking at change logs at it says this has no additional changes so what's the default?

[granite osprey]

wait, reaver shark skip is dead?

[ebon lily]

Thunder zapper is good

Amber staff is also good

[old laurel]

I js realized I didnt say aquatic scourge

I thought you guys were trolling

Im so slow

[granite osprey]

oh my god they did

man pre hm melee is gonna hurt so much more now lmao

[blazing spindle]

dear calamity

[dusk bronze]

false nuke

[blazing spindle]

how to get sea spirit amulet

[granite osprey]

?

[dusk bronze]

fish in sunken sea

[hasty tangle]

malice mode is just death mode in master ftw

[granite osprey]

wow this malice ftw melee run is gonna be way more difficult in prehm than I was expecting

[hasty tangle]

thats all it is; just a fancy name

[granite osprey]

hi gp

[hasty tangle]

[granite osprey]

I just learned about the reaver shark nerf 🥲

[dusk bronze]

tierskipping isn't and never was required

[granite osprey]

great time to do a 2x hp malice ftw melee playthrough huh

[dusk bronze]

the game is balanced around Not Doing That

[granite osprey]

yeah but molten melee 🙁

[hasty tangle]

meh, im not too fond of taking away the option to do it if a player so chooses

[granite osprey]

also I already beat one boss, king slime

it took almost 10 minutes

[dusk bronze]

there's still several ways to get hellstone preboss
you just have to actually try now

[granite osprey]

wait how

[dusk bronze]

lava fishing
hell lab
crags chest

[granite osprey]

ah ty

btw I was not kidding about nearly 10min

[granite sapphire]

I think i found frost bolt tech

True melee frost bolt exists

[dull heart]

hi

[granite sapphire]

Hi

I figured out true melee frost bolt

[fierce hearth]

Outrunning death mech bosses is a lot harder now. I must explore Further Speed

Perhaps a mount is in order

[granite sapphire]

Oh flare bolt is now a cursor weapon

[deft lily]

whilst i dont like tierskipping myself i do agree that taking it away from players is not a good thing. esp if it doesn't harm the overall balancing of the mod

[fierce hearth]

Imo tierskipping should be a challenge that's rewarded, rather than a trivial default (reaver shark hellstone tierskip)

[deft lily]

yeah

[granite sapphire]

yeah reaver shark coming back shouldn't have existed in the first place

It makes the beginning game nothing

[fierce hearth]

Tierskipping Plantera in pre-mech is cool and awesome, tierskipping to post-evil 1 preboss by fishing is not so much imo

[deft lily]

for the record the reason i dont like tierskipping is bc it can make playthroughs end quicker and also bc its another main thing so called "terraria fans" use to inflate their already inflated ego even more

[hasty tangle]

i just like a challenge ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[granite sapphire]

Besides, most tier skipping in vanilla which a lot of people play on is easier that it is to brag about

[hasty tangle]

also I don't know if the reaver shark really falls in the same category as, say, pre mech plant

[granite sapphire]

and calamity tier skipping is at least difficult

[granite osprey]

ok

[dull heart]

tierskipping is peak to exist

it allows me to play differently each time

[granite osprey]

i don't know if I can beat eye with the monstrous knives on malice with 2x hp

[fierce hearth]

My point is that they are fundamentally different and I like pre-mech plant, and don't like reavershark hellstone

[granite osprey]

this was at like, 45% hp

[dull heart]

how have people been liking the new lifesteal indicator

[granite sapphire]

I personally just like beating all the bosses aside from like Deerclops unless I'm playing as like summoner and want a sentry

[granite sapphire]

wdym

[past minnow]

did they change the location of the big fat hive cause its not under my worlds tree

[radiant sparrow]

I'm not sure if I like the uelibloom summon, the blades are really cool looking but mechanically interesting?

[dusk bronze]

it generates in a random location now

[past minnow]

dangit darnit

[frail tapir]

dunno?

[past minnow]

thanks tho

[granite sapphire]

The new flare bolt is really cool but I have cursor issue with delayed weapons

[old laurel]

js wait till you use the frigid flash, its amazing

anyone know the best mage weapons for destroyer

[stiff hinge]

i'm surprised no one talks about the fact 1.4.5 is technically available on tmodloader through steam betas

[fierce hearth]

Just beat its ass with the frigidflash myself actually

[old laurel]

alr ill try it rq

[radiant sparrow]

How does it work now?

[stiff hinge]

these two are 1.4.5 iirc

[old laurel]

it shoots much faster, does more damage and has the effects of both bolts

[fierce hearth]

Bouncy explosions with an alt fire to launch a cursor-targeted super explosion

[old laurel]

frost and flash

its amazing

[radiant sparrow]

Very nice

The virid vanguard I mentioned earlier, what do you guys think of it?

[granite sapphire]

PLS is... odd

At the same time you can't miss

But

[radiant sparrow]

PLS?

[granite sapphire]

Pulse pistol

You can't miss but it also has horrid dps

[dull heart]

i like it a lot personally

so true sunny

[teal bone]

Dude lightspeed is soooooo sick man im lightspeeding it

[granite sapphire]

Add a setting in the mod settings that allows Owl's to get obliterated by xeroc

i hate these things, they clutter too much

[fierce hearth]

The new arsenal weapons fuck so hard

They're actually interesting and fun gimmick weapons now

I wish summoner was a little less buggy because holy hell the shrimp was so fun to use

[dull heart]

yeah idk what on earth happened to summoner

[fierce hearth]

And I beat skeletron with the auger

[granite sapphire]

My biggest interest of this update is ranger isn't boring as fuck

[gusty raptor]

how do i increase vision in the abyss

[granite sapphire]

It's now not just "this is a gun that shoots new stuff"

[versed umbra]

is there any way to play an older version of calamity

[fierce hearth]

It's really confusing because I have only Calamity and associated music mods but yeah some summons just like to wander off and then after disappearing, get glued permanently to your hotbar so they cannot be replaced

[versed umbra]

this new upd kinda fucked with my run

[fierce hearth]

And it seems like an issue many people are having

But some summons don't do that

Ice claspers haven't

[dull heart]

you can try building it yourself from an old version of the github

[versed umbra]

Ah hell na too Complex 😱

[fierce hearth]

I first noticed the bug with the enchanted knife staff. It happened once with the shrimp. I think there's just some weird shit going on with summons that follow enemies more than they follow the player

[granite sapphire]

So the summons are doing their job...?

[fierce hearth]

Well yes, but they then leave the premises without clocking out

[ivory marsh]

Green Needle update announced for February 30th

[boreal pewter]

Thank you! Glad you like them.

[dusk bronze]

xyk try not to be absolutely goated: impossible edition

[old laurel]

I think the valk ray might be glitched ngl

its js not shooting

and I cant switch weapons

[granite sapphire]

Honestly the pls pistol is just a magic missile that is bad

A post evil 2 magic missile is nice and all, but the weapons on tier outclass it by a mile

Very disappointing since the melee and range aerialite Draedon arsenal was beautiful

[fierce hearth]

The summons just don't want to work. What's become of our country?

I can't trust these lazy millennial summon weapons

[stuck kite]

what on earth?!?!?

[old laurel]

waiitttt new cal clone boss is so good

the fight

[cinder mural]

does this one also affects the calamity addons upgrades such as good apple and auric souls?

[frail tapir]

[cinder mural]

XD

[frail tapir]

[cinder mural]

anyone?

[stuck kite]

only if addons made it work with disgusting meat

[cinder mural]

oh ok

hmm
i'm not gonna risk it lmao

(wotg and hotog upgrades)

[old laurel]

this boss is actually hard now

[cinder mural]

which one?

[old laurel]

cal clone

[cinder mural]

ah

[frail tapir]

[old laurel]

nah they actually buffed this boss like crazy'\

[fathom girder]

I'm surprised that joke wasn't made before

[fathom girder]

The biggest thing was the arena killing the rungod strat tbh

[dusk bronze]

because nobody has thought about earth in like 5 years

[fathom girder]

crazy

[patent gale]

is there a seed for luxors gift in newer vers

[tropic jolt]

what on triactis true paladinian mage hammer of might?

uh I mean earth

[frail tapir]

[fathom girder]

is luxor's even good after the rework

[hasty tangle]

just cheat it in

[fathom girder]

I was using nitro express and like

[hasty tangle]

its a lot faster

[fathom girder]

it sure was there firing

5 damage projectiles

[hasty tangle]

use smth like cheat sheet or dragonlens to do that

[fathom girder]

...why is it still only good for preboss lmao

[patent gale]

alr

[dusk bronze]

yes

[fathom girder]

They put chaos stone rework in the same update that luxor's gift got reworked

one scales for the rest of the game

the other is luxor's gift

why is it even THERE

[dull heart]

luxors is not chaos stone

[fathom girder]

well yeah

[dusk bronze]

also luxors is still really good

[dull heart]

chaos stone is One of the Ancient Relics

[fathom girder]

but why does luxor's not have any scaling still

[dull heart]

no shrine item scales

[fathom girder]

unless it does and it's bugged on specifically ranged

breuh

[dusk bronze]

i love that bloom stone is actually usable now

[fathom girder]

I want to like luxor's but when I used it in my ranger run and it did 5 damage and that's it

[dull heart]

i think all of the Stones are now like

[fathom girder]

like is there anything more disappointing

[royal trellis]

how does one dodge the new brain moves

[dull heart]

full-game usable

[dusk bronze]

by moving out of the way of attacks

[fathom girder]

I love the stones

They are frankly wonderful

[royal trellis]

ty

[fathom girder]

and then LUXOR'S is over in the corner making wand of SPARKING look like it does high dps

[radiant sparrow]

The virid vanguard is an in your face summon yes?

Like you'd be having a punch on with the boss

[dull heart]

that's when it's strongest

in their face and/or using the activated ability it has

[molten grove]

yes disgusting meat is compatible with hotog auric souls

probably not wotg apples tho

[radiant sparrow]

Also old duke is fucking tanky

I also one almost first tried dog

Cool fight

Contact damage is owie

[cinder mural]

understood

[polar gust]

is the brimstone elemental resprite ever happening

[molten grove]

whatever one youre thinking about no
A resprite, likely

[radiant sparrow]

I think the current sprite is fine no?

[polar gust]

its a bit outdated, doesnt really fit calamitys current style

[polar gust]

i liked the big spoon :(((

[radiant sparrow]

What even is calamity's artstyle

Like in words

[polar gust]

hmmmm

saturated

very colourful

a lot of orange

and red

brimstone elemental just doesnt look good either imo

a lot of pillow shading

and i dont like the design

[radiant sparrow]

Pillow shading?

[polar gust]

like

[polar gust]

its not shaded well basically

no care for direction of light

im bad at describing things

[stark quail]

i think i found the most important terraria changelog

[deft lily]

[polar gust]

[stark quail]

bro what

[radiant flower]

wow the whiplash from fighting dog to yharon is really noticeable

[stark quail]

how powerful was this thing

[dusk bronze]

that was scrapped over 3 years ago

[polar gust]

im late to the party what can i say

[quartz burrow]

Nerfed damage from 72 to 60.

[granite osprey]

WHAT THE FUCK

[stark quail]

gooat

[stiff hinge]

does anyone have the premium image of caloro

[loud needle]

anyone getting "unloaded items" after the last update

[modern rampart]

that means your item got removed

[granite osprey]

EYE WAS ABOUT TO SPAWN TOO

[loud needle]

what do you mean removed?