calamity-update-talk

[dull heart]

steam cloud sometimes breaks and corrupts

has released

[gloomy geyser]

ok thank you

[dull heart]

like 4 days ago

[fathom girder]

there was an update? We've been waiting for SSO for years

[clear gate]

sorry for wrong channel, but i done that before but it always resets the map. it goes completely black

[mighty geyser]

yea

[rich ginkgo]

sea of sorrow silksong dlc before sso btw

[clear gate]

yes

[dull heart]

yeah

[clear gate]

im gonna go play it soon

[spark belfry]

Can confirm, it's not fun

[clear gate]

did they update visuals or is this video im watching done with shader mod?

like did dog got a good background

[dull heart]

it did

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

[spark belfry]

Yerp

That bad boy broke the 4th wall

[fathom girder]

yeah all that stuff you see with dog is in-house calamity

it's sick

[rich ginkgo]

there's a full changelog in #changelogs if you wanna go over it, but it's insanely long just saying

[clear gate]

does boc have its own ai now?

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

[dusk bronze]

in rev and death

[clear gate]

did they also update the corrupt worm boss (dont remember the name xd)?

[spark belfry]

I didn't see the change log for 2.1.1, but have they figured out the whole thing with summons suddenly going to the void?

[dusk bronze]

not yet

[rich ginkgo]

no

[spark belfry]

I've seen it happen the most with enchanted knife staff this update weirdly enough

[rich ginkgo]

only dog, ravager, and boc got ai changes iirc

not 100% sure about ravager

[clear gate]

did malice mode finally come back too?

[rich ginkgo]

no

not really

[spark belfry]

We'll have to wait for the WormStorm update

[rich ginkgo]

just the name

from what ive heard new malice mode is like some funny unplayable joke mode

[tropic jolt]

its just legendary + death

[spark belfry]

Oh fun

[rich ginkgo]

does it get its own difficulty icon

[tropic jolt]

yes

[rich ginkgo]

do you have it

i wanna see

[tropic jolt]

and a selection sound too!

[jaunty dirge]

hey anyone knows how to obtain the new Little E?

[rich ginkgo]

is it the one with the explosive bunnies

[jaunty dirge]

LOL

[tropic jolt]

legendary and malice are the bottom two

[cobalt wharf]

why is it a bird

[jaunty dirge]

WHY DO I HEAR SCP FEMUR BREAKER SCREAM

[rich ginkgo]

lmao are the nails hammered into the brain supposed to reference a lobotomy

[fleet ember]

It's much more coherent after the update

[cobalt wharf]

it’s playable but why

[tropic jolt]

well its a reference to the item which activated malice mode years ago

[cobalt wharf]

it’s a cockstomping difficulty that isn’t designed to be rewarding or satisfying but only difficult

[fleet ember]

It's fun for me

[cobalt wharf]

with no actual new behavior

[tropic jolt]

which also had the brain with nails

[main falcon]

What's the pointer

[fleet ember]

It adds a lot of new mechanics to most bosses

[cobalt wharf]

only like 2 vanilla bosses

[rich ginkgo]

some people are just bored i guess

[fleet ember]

I think only like 3-5 bosses are missed

[main falcon]

What's the pointer

[rich ginkgo]

like ice cliff climbers or whatever are just doing it for the fun of it

completely optional fyi

0 reward

people just like doing shit

[jaunty dirge]

its an auto targetting accessory

[main falcon]

Oooh

[jaunty dirge]

which is craftable pre boss

[main falcon]

How do I obtain it

[jaunty dirge]

some iron some copper a mana crystal and some glass

i wonder whats Little E and how to obtain it

[faint ravine]

Okay, I have just one more question: was Master Calamity balanced? I remember it being somewhat unbalanced, with some early bosses being harder than others later on.

[cobalt wharf]

it was only ever balanced tested by fabsol himself and nobody else

[faint ravine]

It was more difficult than the vanilla master, with or without revengeance.

[jaunty dirge]

ye its balanced

but plantera is a pain in the ass

[fleet ember]

Malice is the best place to find all the bugs

[jaunty dirge]

anyoone

knows

whats little e

[fathom girder]

It's big e's brother

[astral vapor]

pet item, shimmer E statue

[dusk bronze]

it's not a pet

it's a vanity

[tropic jolt]

🇪

[jaunty dirge]

ty

[proper owl]

Just a question, why is fabsol absence correlated to dog rework? Was this being gatekeeped by him when he was the owner?

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

he gatekeeped changes to every boss fight

only he could touch them

that's why boc and dog are actually good now

[tropic jolt]

🧇

[rich ginkgo]

😡

[tropic jolt]

the waffler

[faint ravine]

Something like that.

[tropic jolt]

stat bloat !!!!

[unique warren]

"Holding right click while swi-" I HATE YOU

[distant agate]

the DoG rework is goated

went from one of my least favourite fights to one of my favourite

[cobalt wharf]

[dull heart]

We plan to fix that to juat be rclick

It's very sillt

[rare tinsel]

scripulous fingore

[dusk bronze]

can you do that to basher also

[dull heart]

Its on thr list

[dusk bronze]

yey

[amber egret]

oih yeahthis is just what i wanted from Basher

[dim junco]

did true melee get the most changes/items compared to other classes?

[dusk bronze]

just melee

[faint ravine]

Do enemies and bosses no longer deal the same damage as vanilla legendary in Master Calamity?

[rare tinsel]

correct

[unique warren]

Thank youuu also how will this work for other weapons

[dim junco]

as a whole or just the regular melee class? guessing the general melee class meaning mostly ranged weapons

[dusk bronze]

as a whole

[jagged copper]

the portal cracking really could've done with being sounded to the target player like ML's deathray rather than playing from where it is

[rare tinsel]

mage got mana cost reduction as a mechanic adjusted which shakes things up quite abit

true melee got a lot of yummy toys to play with

a few of its old toys got broken

[dim junco]

ok cool, should be plenty of true melee stuff then. was planning on doing mage but going unga bunga has always been my style

[fleet ember]

I reported them as oversights but are you supposed to get Aether's Whisper right after Brain of Cthulhu in GetFixedBoi?

[rare tinsel]

use true melee is' peam i promise

holy collider is awesome

[unique warren]

True Melee is peam

Even if it's overtuned because bosses suck at being in true melee range

[oblique linden]

why i damage The Destroyer only 1 damage ?

[jagged copper]

it has decaying Damage Reduction when it spawns

[knotty violet]

i love the feel of the old lords claymore but i still miss it having some sort of gimmick that made it unique as right now its just big chunky sword which we already have quite a few of

[jagged copper]

mainly so you don't shred it in seconds

[knotty violet]

me when i cant instakill the big worm boss

[dusk bronze]

it can synergize with bladecrest

[glacial current]

is death mode (master) now playable or still unbalanced and unfun?

[knotty violet]

wait really? does it do something similar to the upgrade?

[unique warren]

Pretty much ya

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[knotty violet]

thats kinda the point

[glacial current]

i mean thats a debatable topic

i want to know if there has been significant changes in 2.1.0 or not, i already finished death master

[mighty geyser]

youre thinking of malice

[glacial current]

im playing rev mode but it feels too easy so far

[stoic heath]

Hello guys, does anyone have a solutions to the vanishing summons bug?

[knotty violet]

ah i thought the modes were level of unbalance, revengance being balanced, death being slightly unbalanced to make it a challenge and malace being throwing balance to the wind for the true masochists

[fleet ember]

I play ONLY Malice and can answer questions

[mighty geyser]

thats not what balance is

oh

wrong reply sorry

[mighty geyser]

replying to this

[glacial current]

never played it, i dont want a run that is ridiculously challenging, i want to play off-meta weapons and see the weapon changes

[tropic jolt]

brain surgery

[distant agate]

theres no harm in trying out death mode to see if you like it

you can just switch back to revengence if you dont

[glacial current]

i cant (mentally) 😄

[cobalt wharf]

you can play death master just fine

[glacial current]

oh well thanks anyway

[fleet ember]

Yeah you kinda skip to Hallow armor right after Eater of Worlds.....

[distant agate]

wait what

how

[fleet ember]

It drops light disc in GetFixedBoi

[distant agate]

oh cool

[fathom girder]

The meta isn't defined, so therefore neither is the off-meta

[urban cloak]

(you can play malice without gfb)

[rare tinsel]

malice mode is just master mode + ftw

[fleet ember]

They have different mechanics from GetFixedBoi though

Specifically. Easier

[urban cloak]

gfb is the shitpost seed grounds so those aren't designed or balanced well

no one's stopping you from playing it just make sure to differentiate it from regular malice if someone else is genuinely interested in playing that

[lean relic]

Yharon summoning Dragonfolly in master ftw
I might be cooked

[amber egret]

GFB Malice and Malice are different Beasts

[cobalt wharf]

-1000 years of progress

[fleet ember]

Ooo I'm looking at the changes. They're kinda boring

[lean relic]

Yharon can spawn Dragonfolly in both gfb malice and malice, are we cooked

[fleet ember]

Calamitas Clone has an arena in GFB. Constant bullet hell. It's difficult but fair.

[sharp thunder]

How to fix abyss black screen? Sulphurous sea is ok, but when i go a bit down, my screen literally becomes black screen, any accessories doesn't fix it

[fleet ember]

You should get there first.

That's the hard part

[faint ravine]

Hmm, Master Calamity seems to still be unbalanced compared to Vanilla Master, bad.

[lean relic]

mod conflict
Try disable some and see which mod is casing it

[alpine flicker]

is astral just bugged? it did not spawn for me at all after wall of flesh 0_o

[amber egret]

yeah i saw that why is base master stronger than Death

[lean relic]

I mean relogic rushed master mode so
they both

[cobalt wharf]

wiki page damage values are not updated yet

[lean relic]

master mode is... well just expert but with steroids

[lyric trellis]

QB with her 2 hp normally

[urban cloak]

^

calamity difficulty damage values should be identical to their vanilla counterpart now

[cobalt wharf]

look at 2.1 changelogs for current values or just look in game

[lean relic]

Nerfed Queen Bee's contact damage from 36 / 54 Expert Mode / 81 Revengeance Mode / 108 Death Mode / 162 Master Mode to 30 / 54 Expert Mode / 81 Master Mode, and stinger damage from 22 / 44 Expert Mode / 64 Revengeance Mode / 84 Death Mode / 126 Master Mode to 22 / 44 Expert Mode / 66 Master Mode. Nerfed small Bee damage from 15 / 18 Expert Mode / 36 Revengeance Mode / 54 Death Mode / 81 Master Mode to 15 / 18 Expert Mode / 27 Master Mode, and large Bee damage from 20 / 24 Expert Mode / 48 Revengeance Mode / 72 Death Mode / 108 Master Mode to 20 / 24 Expert Mode / 36 Master Mode.

[fathom girder]

where's the sunken in my sea

[faint ravine]

In vanilla Master difficulty, I can beat the bosses on my first try without much difficulty; if you get used to it, you can even beat the game easily, but Calamity Master is on par with vanilla legendary difficulty.

I find this difficult in a somewhat unbalanced way.

[distant agate]

i didnt think i did that much mining but my sulfuric sea has drained quite a lot

its several hundred blocks lower than it was before

odd

[fathom girder]

Oh uh, looks like the update fixed the weirdass silence that was near the sunken sea

so gg

[distant agate]

oh im glad that wasnt just me lol

music just gave up

[lean relic]

This Music bug might mean different tracks depending on sub-biome

[fathom girder]

that was confirmed months ago

[faint ravine]

Hm, good.

[sinful dagger]

Yeah so I agree with the expert and master values being the same as vanilla but I still think rev and death should be buffed

[grave rock]

What was it gonna be a 20 block tall subbiome

[fathom girder]

Sunken sea is gonna have, last we heard, multiple sub biomes in it

[lean relic]

And will be bigger iirc

[fathom girder]

So what we saw was either a glitch or a remnant of some old commit when SSO was planned to make it in and had some generation stuff

[lean relic]

Time to post again

[tropic jolt]

👀

[fathom girder]

and during this, I'm pretty sure one or two of the devs mentioned having different themes or sumn for each sub biome

[distant agate]

oh thats very nice art

[amber egret]

how does this even fit under the desert

[rich ginkgo]

it doesn’t

[blazing field]

yknow

havent tested but

[amber egret]

where is it gonna go even

[blazing field]

this feels

a little too hgh

gnashers are a pretty common enemy

[amber egret]

is that from the uuuuuh

yeah gnasher

[blazing field]

sulphur sea turtle yeah

like

[rich ginkgo]

arent tgere like 7 different layers in the sunken sea

[blazing field]

the most common enemy in the biome

[rich ginkgo]

well soon to come

[amber egret]

yeah last i checked

[blazing field]

sunken sea will go like almost all way down to hell

[amber egret]

hm

[rich ginkgo]

im 99% sure the sunken sea will get way deeper

[amber egret]

not entirely sure if im a fan of that

[blazing field]

yeah

basalt gully will be the deepest layer

right above hell

its literally lava magma area

[amber egret]

Abyss already kinda does that and also Drains

[blazing field]

wdym by drains

[rich ginkgo]

tbh we dont need 70% of the world being cavern layers

[amber egret]

its right by the edge of the world so its a bit better but

[rich ginkgo]

fuck the caverns

[blazing field]

yeah

[lean relic]

✅

[rich ginkgo]

we could do so much with all that space

[amber egret]

like imagine digging a tunnel and BOOM.

Sand.

[blazing field]

alot of the map is taken up by caverns

[blazing field]

wdym sand

[amber egret]

if your desert spawns in a bad spot, you kinda just cant dig a tunnel

[rich ginkgo]

yes you can

[blazing field]

do you think there's just gonna be default sand blocks all the way down into the bottom

[amber egret]

well no

[gloomy grove]

lmao

[amber egret]

i dont know the block names

[fathom girder]

It's not gonna be layers pretty sure

by sub biomes it's gonna be like. a cluster

[blazing field]

have you considered

it might not be sand

[rich ginkgo]

i dont think the sunken sea is gonna have actual sand blocks with gravity lol

[blazing field]

it might be blocks that don't have gravity

[rich ginkgo]

once you get past the desert nothing will have gravity anymore like usual

[fathom girder]

It's gonna have SUNKEN sand blocks...

[blazing field]

I'm pretty sure even right now none of the sunken sae blocks don't

[rich ginkgo]

this is correct

also not much of the underground desert is sand blocks, only the outside edges

[unique warren]

So can you just keep stacking holy colldier fireballs

[blazing field]

anyways uhh whee was i

oh yeah

i think changing corroded bile to be a gnasher dropo is cool

so that not every pre hm sulphur sea stuff is tossed into acid rain

gives a bit more variety, some more reason to fight the regular enemies

but

yeah i think 20% droprate seems uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

a little

[amber egret]

my issue is not that its Sand or whatever, its the fact that its a wall

[blazing field]

too high

this isnt even a rare enemy

[blazing field]

what do you mean by wall

[amber egret]

drawing

hold

[dull heart]

Yes it will

[blazing field]

cuz like, if you dig down/up

[rich ginkgo]

welp

[dull heart]

Use any of the new sunken sea sands in 2.1

[blazing field]

and water starts pouring down

[dull heart]

They all have gravity

[blazing field]

can you just like

place down blocks

[fathom girder]

Oh yeah sand gun has interactions with calamity sands now doesn't it

[dull heart]

Yes

[blazing field]

like is it really that big of an issue you can literally just place blocks and stop it

😭 😭

plus like

if you notic you're digging itno the sunken sea

which, you would

[rich ginkgo]

yeah this has never really been a problem

[blazing field]

by noticing the Sunken sea tiles

[rich ginkgo]

an easy fix

[blazing field]

and u dont wanna risk flooding stuff

then just like

stop doing that then

[high barn]

Has calamity updated to terraria 1.4.5?

[mystic eagle]

no.

[amber egret]

here

stupendously rough diagram

[mystic eagle]

Very tall Sunken Sea you got there

[amber egret]

if the sunken sea goes right down to hell, how are you gonna dig to the left

[grand mirage]

sunken't

[amber egret]

thats what the things planned to be though

[urban cloak]

well it wasnt gonna be water all the way down to hell

[gloomy grove]

do you need to go to the left

[amber egret]

even if it was dirt, the issue still persists

[blazing field]

I mean not really

[urban cloak]

also yeah if you wanna go left you can just

[blazing field]

just

[urban cloak]

dig left

[amber egret]

its a massive wall that you cant dig through sometimes

[blazing field]

dig elsewhere

[gloomy grove]

i dont really see where the issue is

[amber egret]

through the biome? thats tiered for a specific area?

[blazing field]

wdym

[fathom girder]

Warbanner of the sun breaks Brain of Cthulhu

[blazing field]

tiered for a specific area

just

dig

[urban cloak]

yeah???

[blazing field]

with your pickaxe

[amber egret]

like what if a minecart track goes there

[gloomy grove]

sure you cant dig left, but do you need to

[amber egret]

or the block is really tedious to break

[amber egret]

some would want to

[blazing field]

sticker respectfully

this is like

[mystic eagle]

There is no boss lock anymore for digging through it

[blazing field]

my lobster is to buttery and my steak is too juicy

[gloomy grove]

i said need, not want

[urban cloak]

we'd put in measures to prevent that happening during worldgen

[fathom girder]

you can "what if" all day it don't matta

[blazing field]

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[urban cloak]

i can tell you for sure out of the like 12 sso worlds i generated during dev there weren't any minecart tracks going through the biome

[amber egret]

i have hit the side of a steak wall and the lobsters are Juicing Me

[gloomy grove]

if youre just caving around for ore you can just turn around theres nothing that warrants you to need to go more left

[blazing field]

literally just going left and digging down from there

[amber egret]

like if im down in a cavern, mining stuff, and i hit Sunken Sea for the Eighth Time i will very likely not be a happy man

[urban cloak]

is it like

a concern that you're gonna flood the world

?

[gloomy grove]

its not like anyone is gonna miss the cavern biome under current sea anyways

[amber egret]

that also??

i suppose?????

[urban cloak]

what was the main concern 😭

[amber egret]

its really just "This is a Big Ass Biome

[fathom girder]

https://streamable.com/g4n4m3

Hey fryzahh check this out

[amber egret]

"This is gonna take up So Much Space"

[gloomy grove]

i want it to take up space yeah

[urban cloak]

every fucking calamity biome does this already????

[gloomy grove]

game barely has anything to explore

[urban cloak]

have you SEEN the astral

[fathom girder]

The way BoC rework spawns in gets messed up if you damage the creepersright when they spawn in, in some manner, I think

[amber egret]

crags is Not bigass

Astral is Tiny

[gloomy grove]

mm

[urban cloak]

sorry

the UNDEGROUND astral

[amber egret]

its Not that large

its abt as big as Underground Desert

[urban cloak]

it is???

[fathom girder]

do you disable the giant ass hallow and evil V when you kill wof

this is such an odd thing to be annoyed over

[amber egret]

compared to the literal Skyscraper that the sunken sea seems to be

[amber egret]

no but the sunken might

[cunning sequoia]

underground astral is so big and there's absolutely fucking nothing there

🤩

[fathom girder]

What's saying the sub biomes are layers though

[amber egret]

i must be misremembering bc it was Not big when i played

it had a small circle on the top and a large oval on the bottom abt the size of Underground Desert

which, yes, is large

[radiant sparrow]

Uhm it has astral ore

[amber egret]

and also does the "Goddamn It I Hit Desert Again" issue

i mine just a bit too far in a cave and "Oops! Underground Desert with Fuckall!"

[blazing field]

dude just like

you hit the sunken sea

[gloomy grove]

if you are made aware that the sunken sea goes down really far through trial and error you turn around

[blazing field]

turn around

[hasty hawk]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Terraria/s/LMhwbvnMsI diabolical idea for Cal

[blazing field]

make this happen on malice mode

[gloomy grove]

i dont understand your viewpoint because this is a really odd thing to be concerned about

[blazing field]

100% chance whenever you fish on honey

[urban cloak]

we cant make malice exclusive changes unfortunately

[amber egret]

it happens already with Desert

[hasty hawk]

gfb tho...

[blazing field]

when i say malice i mean gfb cuz thats what it is anyways

😭

[urban cloak]

oh aight

[old laurel]

when are new whips finna be added

[gloomy grove]

you dig left > notice youre gonna hit a biome > go down > notice that it goes really deep > turn around

[urban cloak]

after 1.4.5

[blazing field]

thanks man

[amber furnace]

what about the other drops 💔

[gloomy grove]

its like really simple

[hasty hawk]

i really hope the plans Heart made for it arent scrapped

[blazing field]

shitpost difficulty who gaf

[fathom girder]

oh no, no honeyfins...

[amber egret]

be me
in cave, mining
getting ore
cave leads over
wow! awesome!
Sunken Sea
mfw

[blazing field]

honeyfins 1% chance

queen bee 99% chance

[fathom girder]

You're right

[blazing field]

that way its atleast still obtainabloe

[proud tangle]

Can someone explain what qol changes they removed in the 2.1 update? I hear a lot of people complain about it but ive not seen much changes to qol in my playthough

[blazing field]

shrimple

[urban cloak]

actually yeahh no we cant do that

less honeyfins is BAD

i need my honeyfin...

[fathom girder]

as soon as I hit sunken sea the clam grabs me and force uninstalls my game

it's so bad

can't just turn around and go mining somewhere else it's really stupid

I HAVE to go left and no other direction

only way I can go

[amber egret]

my cave already Lead that way

[fathom girder]

you have a pickaxe

[amber egret]

if i wanted to dig to the right i woulda Gone There

[fathom girder]

THE POWER OF CREATION

IN YOUR HANDS

[amber egret]

i do not want to use my shitty Copper Pickaxe

to mine Three Thousand Stone Blocks

[fathom girder]

there's more to the game than a copper pickaxe sir

[amber egret]

when i do my early game mining

[fathom girder]

there's like

iron

silver

platinum

[amber egret]

im not going back up to the surface as soon as i grab platinum

[fathom girder]

that's a you problem then

[gloomy grove]

i think we should just move on

[fathom girder]

callin' that a big ol' TACTICS ISSUE

[past nimbus]

Hi everyone, sorry if this is a stupid question, but could anyone let me know if there's any info on when the mod might be updated to version 1.4.5? I'm wondering whether I should just start playing now on 1.4.4 or wait for the update.

[gloomy grove]

its clearly a subjective take anyways

[pine onyx]

The new DOG is like, actually good, but its hella unbalanced and it still has the sluggish clunky worm AI

[gloomy grove]

when tmod updates

give it 6+ months

[amber egret]

im gonna run around the caves, im gonna mine all the ore, and im gonna minimize stone mined because mining eight billion stone blocks is Not fun

[pine onyx]

Like you cant make me sleep for 75% of DOG's hp bar and then make me hit frame perfects

[amber egret]

and then Boom.
Sand Wall

[proud tangle]

Tmodloader needs to update to 1.4.5 first, and that will take a few months. Then calamity needs to port over, which would also take a little while

[amber egret]

(which again, The Desert Already Does !!!!!!!!!!!!)

[fathom girder]

largest whiner known to man

[past nimbus]

Oh, so it depends only on tmod update time. Ty very much! Tmod will surely update 6+ month?

[proud tangle]

the last tmod port to 1.4.4 took 9 months, this one will take less, but still would be multiple months

[blazing field]

dude im gonna remove either one of your arrow keys so next time that happens you're forced to go through the entirety of the sunken sea and/or desert so it becomes an actual problem im sorry

😭

[amber egret]

ad hominem

[past nimbus]

Ok, thank you very much guys!🫡

[fathom girder]

redditor

[amber egret]

you find no fault in my actual point, and just resort to insults

[blazing field]

ok

no need to actually get hostile

[amber egret]

Shrug

[blazing field]

dont do t hat

[fathom girder]

sorry sorry

I'll censor it next time

[amber egret]

sarcasm is Unappreciated

[gloomy grove]

its a subjective stance anyways

[amber egret]

anyhow ive said what i said and someone's already called me an insult So

[mystic eagle]

Who cooked with this sprite

[blazing field]

jade palace mention

[gloomy grove]

shroomble

[blazing field]

thanks shroomble

[radiant sparrow]

That looks mad and I immediately wanna make that into a house

[gloomy grove]

we all love shroomble

[fathom girder]

shroomble when I consume

[mystic eagle]

[blazing field]

its old dukes house

[pine onyx]

Also universal collapse got fired

[fathom girder]

bwuh

[radiant sparrow]

It'll be mine

[burnt delta]

is anyone elses murasama broken?

[mystic eagle]

Don't play Infernum ithout the difficulty enabled

[pseudo vector]

don't use calamity overhaul

[mystic eagle]

Disable Calamity Overhaul and never enable it again

[pine onyx]

guh

[gloomy grove]

turn off infernum

[burnt delta]

is there not a fix?

[gloomy grove]

no

[radiant sparrow]

What does overhaul even do?

[gloomy grove]

alot of things

[burnt delta]

does anyone know why?

[pseudo vector]

just don't use calamity overhaul

[gloomy grove]

its not recommended to use overhaul at all anyways

[pseudo vector]

disable it

[fathom girder]

Overhaul is horrendous

[gloomy grove]

people only like it because it provides moments and "aura"

[radiant sparrow]

My mate uses it

[gloomy grove]

its all flashy lights and no substance

[rich ginkgo]

because its code is god awful and messy

[radiant sparrow]

He also tends to have fucking awful opinions

[gloomy grove]

also can just decide to brick your save whenever

[hasty hawk]

steal code from Stars Above as well as having some of the worst bugs in Tmod

[burnt delta]

dam...

[gloomy grove]

to the average user they can care less about the code

[rich ginkgo]

yeah until it corrupts their save files LOL

[gloomy grove]

[rich ginkgo]

literal malware

[river sphinx]

Hello everyone, I have a question, why did my muramasa become 80 crowns and the tests were reset to 1?

[hasty hawk]

just use Stars Above for that and more

[gloomy grove]

disable overhaul and whatever addon does the crowns

[hasty hawk]

This was asked literally 2 min ago

[gloomy grove]

true at least this one has voice acting

[rich ginkgo]

youtube and tiktok have done irrepairable damage to the cal community

[pseudo vector]

[rich ginkgo]

boii murasama cal overhaul so aura sigma 🗿

[tropic jolt]

🗿🗿🗿

[rich ginkgo]

murasama go brrrrr

[mystic eagle]

This is an English only server

[rich ginkgo]

my mistake

[rugged gale]

RIP star beam rye

[pseudo vector]

it was too busted to be kept the way it was so the nerf makes sense lmao

[rugged gale]

yeah

[fathom girder]

But rip it anyway

It was funni

[rich ginkgo]

didnt it let you one shot scal

[fathom girder]

Yeah lmao

[rugged gale]

would be funny to have it as a thing in like getfixedboi or smth

[river sphinx]

completely disable overhaul?

[dull heart]

ud be funny to have on gfb

[hasty hawk]

speaking of this, who was the mf who capped Slick Cane in Gfb, I just wanna "talk to them"

[pseudo vector]

yes

[hasty hawk]

yes and never enable it again

[pine onyx]

music why is the new DOG unbalanced

[hasty hawk]

go play Stars Above instead of you want the shit Cal Overhaul adds + a proper gameplay experience

[pseudo vector]

please elaborate

[hasty hawk]

First time I hear this statement

[pseudo vector]

what difficulty are you playing on

[dull heart]

Bad news

[rugged gale]

was it you?

[dull heart]

No

[river sphinx]

Thank you very much, I'll go and disconnect.

[hasty hawk]

why Doze I trusted you

https://tenor.com/view/gun-tears-cat-point-gun-crying-cat-gif-17741904

[pine onyx]

It has me sleeping until i have to hit frame perfects

[pine onyx]

death

[pseudo vector]

the ram dash window isn't that tight

[main estuary]

you could just dash briefly before he hits you

[gloomy grove]

its a generous window yeah

[main estuary]

it's really easy to avoid

[rugged gale]

or just juke the nom

[distant raft]

maybe it gets to frame perfect at like 3x speed malice

[pine onyx]

The infernum 3rd phase of DOG is easier

[main estuary]

i've never used normality relocator

[pine onyx]

Maybe i need to move during the attack

[main estuary]

why did i even say this

[rugged gale]

there's more than one dash accessory

[main estuary]

i know

[pine onyx]

Like the window is weird as hell

Feels like im getting hit by the body segments after ramming

[rugged gale]

asgard's got nerfed

[pine onyx]

Im using ely

[rugged gale]

also nerfed

[pine onyx]

Doesn't happen w infernum dog

Still

[rugged gale]

before or after 2.1?

[hasty hawk]

inf buffs rams... A LOT

[pine onyx]

I didn't notice much difference

[rugged gale]

elysian has only 12 i-frames on current patch

[pine onyx]

Both feel really similar

[gloomy grove]

💔

[rugged gale]

asgardian aegis also for some reason now does less damage than high ruler?

[pine onyx]

Honestly not too bad of a change

The bonk has more risk to it

[rugged gale]

wait no that was valor, not aegis

though high ruler is much faster

[pine onyx]

Always mix them up aswell lmao

[rugged gale]

also, void sash seems pretty strong now, with the dodge effect changes

dodges stack now, and having multiple equipped reduces the cooldown

[pine onyx]

Hot take but i feel like the new dog is just.. decent

He feels as sluggish as ever

[rich ginkgo]

i watched a video on the fight and the only differences i can really tell r the telegraphed attacks which are beams instead of projectiles

and then the thanatos type attack where it curls around you and doesnt let you escape without being hit by going through its body

[dull heart]

That's how it's always been

[rugged gale]

oh wait rly?

[dull heart]

What was needed was the active window to be able to ram

[pine onyx]

Coiling the nightmare of every single worm boss

[dull heart]

It's now only the first 16 frames of the dash that you are able to ram

[rugged gale]

which is 18 frames now

[dull heart]

18 is Asgardian aegis

[rugged gale]

yea

[dull heart]

14 for valor, 12 for ornate

[rich ginkgo]

i think new dog might be easier actually but i havent played for my self so take that with a very small grain of salt

ill update when i get to dog

[dull heart]

if you want him faster go up to death if you're on rev

if that's too slow you can always do the joke difficulty malice

[rugged gale]

they're on death

[pine onyx]

Im playing death

He's just

a worm

with a new paintjob

[dull heart]

wow the worm boss is a worm

[pine onyx]

and some cool lasers which are easily the best part of the fight

[unique warren]

So uh out of curiosity, when 1.4.5 tmod comes out with the funny ram dash mount are you gonna do anything about that

[lyric trellis]

Have you ever fight DoG before this update because that was 10x slower 😭

[dull heart]

yeah

Dog before this was way slower

[pine onyx]

I've died of old age from fighting the old DoG

[unique warren]

Considering ram dashes seem to be intentionally a hardmode thing in the mod

[pine onyx]

BoC feels much more fleshed out this time

[dull heart]

The thing is we really can't make him much faster on death while leaving it fair for enough of the playerbase

[pine onyx]

like they cooked with BoC

[dull heart]

But that's why I made malice dog

[unreal shuttle]

are more sentry focused armor sets/accesories planned

i dont like just having 3 sentry slots the whole game

[pine onyx]

Speed isn't the issue, he kinda acts the same ish as before

but now he has like

3 modules

he switches to

[dull heart]

he's pretty notably different in that he like

[pine onyx]

Worm with a fancy paint job

[dull heart]

Actually attacks you

[pine onyx]

yeah no shit

[unreal shuttle]

you get 4 with stardust armor and then none

[unique warren]

Like, I feel like preboss ram dash isn't smth you devs want maybe?

[pine onyx]

I'm always going to use infernum as a comparison

But

like

[dull heart]

but yes it's the same core 3/4 phases as before but made into good

[old laurel]

is it js me or is warding super unbalanced now

[pine onyx]

aqua scourge for example

acts a lot differently to your average worm

It moves a lot more erratically and doesn't coil you to death

[tropic jolt]

😭

[dull heart]

like genuinely what else would dog do that makes sense besides what he does, his entire thing is trying to eat you lol

[rugged gale]

wdym?

[unreal shuttle]

no like actually

[dull heart]

Yes

[pine onyx]

I fucking love infernum lmao im all for it

[unique warren]

Ugh nvm

[dull heart]

Yeah then you might like malice dog

[pine onyx]

dog biting you's like

90% of the fight

[old laurel]

I feel like since they cut back the defense and lowered bosses damage, warding kinda seems even more broken

[pine onyx]

but

dog isn't the uh

[dull heart]

The issue is infernum dog is WAY too polarizing for basecal

[pine onyx]

worm with a paintjob

[rugged gale]

warding's always been broken

[pine onyx]

that base cal offers

[old laurel]

ik but it seems even more broken

[pine onyx]

I can understand that yeah

[dull heart]

infernum dog is overall fairly similar to 2.1 dog just more aggressive

[rich ginkgo]

probably just be more aggressive, like infernum style aggressive

[old laurel]

especially since more accesories dont offer defense at all

[pine onyx]

2.1 dog feels like a watered down infernum dog with a sloppy AI

[dull heart]

it's a more balanced ai

[pine onyx]

but besides allat its a lot better than any past iteration

[dull heart]

infernum dog is kinda a one trick pony skill check

[rich ginkgo]

i imagine dog being very aggressive in general because it goes hand in hand with his cocky character

it just makes sense

[unique warren]

And also kinda boring looking

[rich ginkgo]

dog being a passive fight that just flies around and beams you doesnt make too much sense to me

[pine onyx]

I love the sprite

the cyan touches are incredible what

[unique warren]

Like ya cool you can do one thing really well now let's try anything else

[pine onyx]

but infernum kinda did nothing with the first phase

[dull heart]

anyway try malice if you haven't it's insane

[unique warren]

Oh uh I'm not rlly talking sprite it's probably a cool sprite

Can't rember off the top of my head

[pine onyx]

I also like that it's a game of positioning

DOG constantly repositions itself n you need to keep up

[unique warren]

There are bosses that do that while also not being a one trick pony is the issue

[dull heart]

the main reason death cannot be faster is it makes it require dashes or hooks or mounts if it becomes faster

I already had to push movement to the limit when doing a dashless hookless mountless nohit

[rugged gale]

thats the best part thoughhhhh

[rich ginkgo]

the iconic infernum dog dashes should be reserved as a desperation phase instead of being the whole fight

[old laurel]

I mean everyone uses dashes anyways

[rugged gale]

ooooooooo

[dull heart]

If you want a fight to force dashes go play infernum or malice

[dull heart]

That's actually just not true

[rich ginkgo]

dog should definitely have a desperation phase because like i said, it just fits his character

[dull heart]

Very common but I know a lot of people, especially less active in the community, don't

[old laurel]

Dashes are js good? why would ppl not use them

[dull heart]

That's kinda what phase 3 is meant to be

[unreal shuttle]

this is just goated news that i have to post pablo

[rugged gale]

i do still feel like the phase 2 transition phrase doesnt fit too well

[verbal bough]

How do you play Malice mode?

[rugged gale]

it does also do dashes alongside the laser wall

[dull heart]

ftw, it's not a real intended difficulty

[pine onyx]

I don't want that

[verbal bough]

Oh

[dull heart]

But it's there

[pine onyx]

i had enough with his barely telegraphed portal jumps

[dull heart]

I need to buff malice dog @gray trench

[pine onyx]

that's genuinely the only hard part of the fight to me

[dull heart]

Specifically make him disable cinnamon roll

[rich ginkgo]

would you rather the entire fight being a timing test

😭

[old laurel]

every dog should get a buff

[pine onyx]

yeah

[rich ginkgo]

that's so incredibly lame and boring ngl

[pine onyx]

The timing in such test to also be reasonable

[rugged gale]

sekiro-style fight

[rich ginkgo]

what a waste of a character/boss lowkey

dog has a lot of potential

[pine onyx]

Currently it's just

the fucking

digger enemy

with a purple paintjob and trash talk

[flint geyser]

is there a changelog for 2.1.1?

[rugged gale]

it wants to eat you

[dull heart]

Check wiki

[pine onyx]

that's an overexaggeration but

[rich ginkgo]

yes check the wiki

[pine onyx]

still

[dull heart]

!wiki 2.1.1

[mortal sinew]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/2.1.1

[old laurel]

havent tried new dog yet

is it easy or nah

[pine onyx]

Easy till 25% hp

[rugged gale]

are you getting hit during laser wall?

[flint geyser]

cactus pick got +1 percent pickaxe power, its so busted now

[unique warren]

I am curious if y'all are planning to make FtW like... any good

[dull heart]

No

[old laurel]

isnt ftw a literal joke basically

[dull heart]

Yes

[old laurel]

why make a joke good

[tropic jolt]

funny small golem and funny big destroyer

[unique warren]

So it was just a thing where you wanted DoG to be good in FtW...?

[rugged gale]

jokes can be both fun and funny

[dull heart]

yes I just personally wanted to make malice dog insane in gfb

[old laurel]

yeah but the whole point of malice is that its not good

[rugged gale]

respect

[unique warren]

And generally unfair ya

[tropic jolt]

two of the other calamity endgame bosses have that as well dont they

[rugged gale]

as optionals, but yeah

[old laurel]

Did old dukes fight get reworked?

[unique warren]

Just visuals I believe...?

[hasty hawk]

no, just visuals

[rugged gale]

hecate and permafrost are optional thankfully

[old laurel]

Damn

[pine onyx]

Ay that's a cool name icl

[hasty hawk]

what funny secondary fight would Yharim have once he’s out

[pine onyx]

portal jumps

they pmo

[old laurel]

they should lowk rework the prof guardians fight

[pine onyx]

They either force you into walking in a direction or a frame perfect timing

[old laurel]

its kinda bad

[rugged gale]

move out of the way

[pine onyx]

true

[unique warren]

And super cool in general

[pine onyx]

Ye ive always loved staff of the mechworm

[harsh plume]

wait, did they fix the summoner issue in 2.1.1? did i just miss it in the patch notes?

[old laurel]

Coolest part of the upd still the raritys for me lowk

[pine onyx]

stardust dragon 2

[unique warren]

Wait so can you just keep stacking fireballs for holy collider

[tropic jolt]

they'll think of something absolutely horrific im sure

we already have the lorde

[rugged gale]

THE LORDE

[pine onyx]

Also killing fucking dog gave me 2 platinum

are we deadass

[unique warren]

OK YOU TOTALLY CAN

[rugged gale]

yeah coin drops got nerfed

[pine onyx]

WHY

[unique warren]

This cannot be ok right

[pine onyx]

money is LITERALLY useless at that point

[dull heart]

good

[rotund venture]

Dont the small fireballs fade away to fast to really stack more than two maybe?

[dull heart]

no more making malice dog free

[unique warren]

Nahhhh

Against any enemy it would be too hard but against a dummy it is not

You do a charge hit on the dummy, go up and hit the fireball, hit it back into its original position, rinse and repeate and you can stack em pretty much endlessly...?

[rotund venture]

It is an incredible rework for sure tho

[unique warren]

I'm curious if this means you can just stack em up then spawn polter and one shot it 😭

It is peak

[stoic heath]

anyone else having summons vanishing?

[rotund venture]

Theres a bunch of stuff to buff non-weapon dmg now, how difficult would a weaponless run be? Like armor, potion and accessory dmg only?

[rugged gale]

just farm eclipse

[harsh plume]

me and my friends on my server had that yesterday, but now im alone in the server and 30 mins in, not a single summon has vanished 🤔

was asking earlier if they fixed it and i just missed it in the patch notes or something ':D

[stoic heath]

thx for the reply, mine wont last for a min. sad

[harsh plume]

solo or mp?

im in mp dedi server, but alone atm. installed 2.1.1 and restarted the server, seems to work now... tho nobody else online atm in the server

[unique warren]

Check if it's an issue on singleplayer too

[silent chasm]

I've seen one guy turn off summoner ui and it worked for him.

[stoic heath]

ill try somethings here, thx guys

cheers

[harsh plume]

and yesterday they just disappeared in like 10-20 sec no matter how many times i restarted the server or the game, and void eater marionette didnt work at all, didnt even summon it, for anyone who tried

we all do have summoner ui installed, and still enabled

[dull heart]

try turning it off and see if that fixes

if it does, please ping me and let me know

we've been trying to solve this and don't know the root cause yet

[harsh plume]

idk if you talking to me or the other guy, but for me its working normally now, nothing else changed since yesterday except 2.1.1

[dense sundial]

Paladin AI

[unique warren]

the WHAT cause

[low bone]

So summoner is broken? i have same issue but in addition to this i cant reset my minions unless im die and im have summoner ui installed

[halcyon seal]

Wdym secondary fight

[hasty hawk]

Cal has Permafrost
Exos have Hekate
Yharim will have ???

[unique warren]

GFB stuff

[halcyon seal]

Right

[unique warren]

Assumedly

[rich ginkgo]

mirahy

[unique warren]

I think that's what they meant

[halcyon seal]

The King Slime Ninja

[distant raft]

harder than it was before due to a lot of things no longer scaling with stealth

and toxic heart being annihilated

2.0.7.2 weaponless had a pretty easy route

[cobalt wharf]

you have striking moment back though

[silent chasm]

Seems like so, might also be a good idea to report it to the author of that mod.

[distant raft]

ugc and stealth for ds and eoc
rox shimmer for slagsplitter, soc, stealth for wof
deep diver and slagsplitter all the way to golem and pbg

and then boom

run's over

once you got toxic heart you won't die again

[harsh plume]

not alone in the server anymore, and my wife's summons not disappearing either

[distant raft]

just skip guards and prov

[unique warren]

Hm, odd

[harsh plume]

ok, she still has the issue with Void Eater Marionette, it just "flashes" quickly and the buff icon appears, but the actual summon does not

lilies of finality seem to work for both of us, those had most issues yesterday. ill tell her to turn off summoner ui and try again

[radiant sparrow]

Wtf is Hekate?

[balmy sleet]

what the actual fuck is this new brain of chuthulu fight

[deep bough]

Hypnos fr

[hard copper]

Exo mechdusa

[low bone]

@dull heart I know you didn't ask to me to ping you but after i disable three mods everything is fixed like my summons no longer disappears and i can reset them, and this mods is Summoner UI, High fps support and boss check list

[unique warren]

Sorry why exactly is Hide of Astrum Deus any good

[radiant sparrow]

Also why is the exo mechs just a roided version of the mech bosses?

[unique warren]

Rounded?

[dull heart]

thank you

[deep bough]

Everyone just loves eyes, worms, and skulls

[harsh plume]

she turned off Summoner UI, but Void Eater Marionette doesnt still work

buff appears but the summon just insta disappears... you see it for a split second

[unique warren]

@harsh plume do you have these other two on?

[harsh plume]

we do have boss checklist also, but not the other one

[halcyon seal]

I kinda wish it was called Hephaestus instead tbh

[harsh plume]

calamity, boss checklist, summoner ui and magic storage

[distant raft]

its a boss checklist issue isnt it

[unique warren]

Replace it with checklist lite

[low bone]

Idk but it worked for me

[cunning sequoia]

I wish it was called Talos tbh

[dull heart]

if it's boss checklist that'd be WILD

boss checklist should not be touching projectiles

[unique warren]

Lemme test this myself

[cunning sequoia]

Hekate is cool but Talos just fits

so well

[halcyon seal]

Boss checklist is the reason my wife left me

[hasty hawk]

Hekate makes sense given the 3 heads

[hasty hawk]

Talos is also a good one

[mystic eagle]

T-Elos

[halcyon seal]

Yeah but I have to assume Draedon melded the exos together somehow

Talos would be sick as well

[harsh plume]

its weird, cos for me now everything works, and i didnt turn off anything. for her so far, only Void Eater Marionette has the same issue that it had pre-2.1.1 (with or without summoner ui)

[deep bough]

Is this a Skyrim reference ‼️

[halcyon seal]

It’s a reference to the most well documented D&D campaign in human history

[harsh plume]

i'll try to turn it off completely first

[dull heart]

did she try restarting tmodlaoder

[radiant sparrow]

Critical roll?

[low bone]

Also i firstly encounter this issue with Brittle stars after shuttering they just didn't reappear

[harsh plume]

actually no, she just disabled Sum UI

[fathom girder]

warbanner is a classless damage accessory now

[tiny comet]

did they remove all the spiky ball variants?

[dull heart]

most of them

[fierce hearth]

Summons wandering off and vanishing is happening to me as well and I only have calamity mods loaded

[cunning sequoia]

i thought it was a joke that greek mythology is a very very well documented D&D campaign

[radiant sparrow]

Oh

[unique warren]

No boss checklist?

[harsh plume]

restarted, still happens to her

[low bone]

Btw Wth is wrong with original boss checklist?

[dull heart]

hmm

[mystic eagle]

Bugs

[harsh plume]

oh wait we also do have Steam Achievement Fix v.1.5.2

[deep bough]

I have no idea

These problems are news to me

[hasty hawk]

Worldsync bugs, some horrible ones at that

and laggy too

[halcyon seal]

It was

[radiant sparrow]

I've never had any issues with boss checklist unless it's not the original one

[gloomy grove]

i kind of wish someone made another boss checklist

[hasty hawk]

Boss Checklist Lite

[gloomy grove]

no like

not just the existing one but stripped down

[hasty hawk]

Boss Checklist lite is literally that

[unique warren]

ITS TOTALLY CHECKLIST

Yeah it's checklist

[hasty hawk]

Boss Checklist lite is basically 1.3 tmod boss checklist before all of the bloat and bugs

aka back when it was good

[hasty hawk]

Lmao

[unique warren]

I stopped looking at my screen when checklist was on and worm boi was gone

[hasty hawk]

The fault lies with boss checklist oncemore

[halcyon seal]

How does that even happen

What kind of Lava Slime code is this

[unique warren]

Though, let me just double check before y'all do anything with this

[low bone]

And my summons just broke again now i cant reset them and they disappearing after i restart everything seems to got fixed but if im keep bosscheck list, high fps support and summoner ui my summons immediately breaking just wtf is going on

[granite sapphire]

Ok the checklist is messing my world up and now i might just restart mage run since it is putting Harbingers of Doom (bloom slimes) in my jungle and executioners of life (nuclear terrors) in my sulphur sea pre hm

[unique warren]

Yeah it's boss checklist

[unique warren]

Use checklist lite :3

[granite sapphire]

thanks

[radiant sparrow]

What does boss checklist lite not have compared to boss checklist

[granite sapphire]

can u send a link so i dont use the wrong one

[proper owl]

Did they buff universal mining speed?

[halcyon seal]

For a while yes

[unique warren]

It’s just a thing on the side of your screen telling you boss order and how to spawn em that you can toggle on and off with a keybind

[distant raft]

the demon of babylon disguises himself with the coat of the righteous genuinely how does this mod do it

[granite sapphire]

like last night i spent 8 minutes killing a bloom slime with my frostbolt

[halcyon seal]

Cal has had its mining speed, I think doubled? From vanilla

[harsh plume]

@dull heart disabled summoner ui and boss checklist for both of us now, still have the issue with the Void Eater Marionette. seems to work normally for whoever summons it first, but the second one trying it still just flashes quickly

[proper owl]

yeah its insanely fast even with the copper pickaxe

why is it double?

[granite sapphire]

and they say removing angler rod was bad

[deep bough]

We love multiplayer

[dull heart]

oh that's very good information, if either of you summon it first it works?

[granite sapphire]

this is perfect

[hardy gulch]

i realised that tiershifted hive mind and perforators would likely end up being absolute units

[unique warren]

It’s also seemingly a boss checklist issue for singleplayer

[granite sapphire]

hive mind gonna give me an anyuerism

[harsh plume]

tho we are both using the same staff, idk if it has anything to do with it. and yeah so far looks like that. Lilies of Finality also disappear from her now, but not from me 🤔 (we both have our own lilies summon item, but only one worm staff)

[granite sapphire]

perforators might actually just break through the screen and steal my lungs

[tepid lotus]

um so why does yharons summon need the mythril anvil to craft if he's post DoG?

[granite sapphire]

tomfuckery

[tepid lotus]

lmao

[regal vessel]

I have no idea why Hive Mind and Perf has not been tiershifted already

[granite sapphire]

hes gonna go until you're all tomfuckered out

[dull heart]

so you can do him early for fun

[granite sapphire]

nye eh eh eh

[dull heart]

same with scal altar needing mythril anvil

[tepid lotus]

true true

[regal vessel]

I get we alr have a lot of hardmode and postml bosses but 2 evil bosses back to back is sus

[dull heart]

if you wanna so scal pre ml you can

[granite sapphire]

nobody gets this do they

[dull heart]

because it's a lot of work to do that lol

and fabsol said no

[regal vessel]

How hard is he pre DOG?

[granite sapphire]

nobody knows piemations

[harsh plume]

she de-summoned her worm, i still cant summon it. she can resummon it without issues

[dull heart]

but now we can but it's still a lot of work

[low bone]

like

[dull heart]

so enabling those mods breaks them? all summons or only some?

[granite sapphire]

i would assume hard, but not that much since pre ml wings are post prov since im pretty sure you need prov for a low %

[radiant sparrow]

I did have the thought about how corruption becomes kinda useless after Hardmode aside from some materials

[granite sapphire]

or maybe not nvm

cuz the thingys

[dull heart]

you do not

[low bone]

enabling them causes them to immediately break

[dull heart]

provi is not part of low% routing

[harsh plume]

@dull heart we both re-logged to the server, void eater marionette does not work for either of us now

[halcyon seal]

Provi you can skip thanks to the soul fragment -> auric recipe

[granite sapphire]

i forgot the routing but i remember that yharon is the most important part

[dull heart]

in singleplayer?

[dull heart]

???? im so ??? what the heck

[low bone]

Both in single and multiplayer

[dull heart]

ok cool

[halcyon seal]

The only reason she’d be required is if you needed blossom pickaxe, and you never really have

Auric comes either from crates or from shimmer

[harsh plume]

its so confusing 😄

[granite sapphire]

is duke apart of super low % i dont remember

from the pre wall duke

[dull heart]

no

duke doesn't provide any progression items

[granite sapphire]

i do know cal clone and ravager are necessary though which is nice

[dull heart]

clone isn't

[dusty tinsel]

Every boss should have progression items /j

[granite sapphire]

dont you need her for the ashes

[dull heart]

ravager can let you get em

via shimmer core of calamity

[granite sapphire]

right right

[harsh plume]

lilies now disappear for both of us, and mirror of kalandra disappeared the instant i dropped super dummy

[low bone]

And now i cant reset my minions in single player but they dont vanish like before

[dull heart]

low% is

wof OR clone
ravager
cultist
ml
dog
yharon
scal
exo

i think?

[halcyon seal]

Don’t you need clone for eidolist spawn

[granite sapphire]

still doesnt allow you any good weapons from him in post ml

[deft lily]

i think every boss should be turned queer

[granite sapphire]

dog with ml gear doesnt sound that bad

[deft lily]

unless this is already the case

[halcyon seal]

King Slime is heteromaxxing

[granite sapphire]

its just the long fight

[dusty tinsel]

Should clearly make every boss mandetory for at least one progression point. Imagine how the low% community would react /j

[halcyon seal]

Do you think The Twins host a podcast

[unique warren]

Signus is already done

[granite sapphire]

make dog transgender for the lore

[dull heart]

i tried to make eidolsit spawn pre boss

but others said no

[unique warren]

Yeah there’s such thing as too early of a tier skip

Yharon that early is already pushing it

[cunning sequoia]

aureus and deus are already gay

[low bone]

Im just so confused rn

[deft lily]

i said every boss

[halcyon seal]

I still think Yharon should need cosmic anvil

Because that recipe can genuinely be so confusing for a new player

[granite sapphire]

i mean its wof to ravager to eidolist, and the pillars are insufferable enough on tier

[halcyon seal]

It’s not like eidolist post-wof, you kinda have to go out of your way for that

[dusty tinsel]

I mean that would involve going into the abyss preboss right? That's like not really easily doable lol

[dull heart]

yeah

[regal vessel]

DoG has maximized his testoserone

[granite sapphire]

i mean at least just need a random resource new players probably wont use like a aetherium blocks

[formal plover]

They removed irdescent excal? why?

[granite sapphire]

or actuators

[granite sapphire]

fabsol

[unique warren]

Wdym? They said they were gonna make it pre-boss

[granite sapphire]

simple as that

also useless endgame

[wary crest]

The dps difference on mage without the Star Beam Rye is insane
It feels so much weaker now

[dusty tinsel]

Clearly need to reduce the low% down to one boss

[formal plover]

Why not rename it tho

[granite sapphire]

doze said they were tryign to but other devs said they wouldnt

[halcyon seal]

Yeah because star beam rye let you do 250k DPS and one shot scal