calamity-update-talk

[hasty hawk]

as Final Dawn does decrease stealth

[cunning sequoia]

no i mean

a weapon called GALACTUS blade should be big imo

[green nymph]

HELLO CHAT

[blazing field]

do you know galaxia from meta knight

[lyric trellis]

If only it could’ve gotten an actual rework too…

[green nymph]

oop caps

[blazing field]

is that sword comically big

:p

[cunning sequoia]

have you seen galactus

[cobalt wharf]

im like 99% sure this would be extremely easy to fix jsssying

👀 👀 👀

[blazing field]

i dont think its galactus as in the marvel galactus

its just a concidental naming because its a galaxy themed sword

[cunning sequoia]

ok but its what comes to mind

[unique warren]

The only gigantic sword that cal adds is Earth, and ig we can count Devil's Devastation right click lo

[cunning sequoia]

idk

i like that its big

[blazing field]

not really it didnt even come to mind to me until you said it

[cunning sequoia]

it fits

[green nymph]

am i the only one that have a small issue with the update

[hasty hawk]

it is, devs prob just need to look at how final dawn does it

[cunning sequoia]

** **

[blazing field]

to me it works well as a big sword because its design looks appropriate to its size

[lyric trellis]

It’s galactus blade because it’s too old

[blazing field]

like that is an actual greatsword

[hasty hawk]

ALSO CHECK OLD LORDS WITH VENERATED LOCKET EQUIPED

[vocal pagoda]

There's legitimately no reason to use any other weapon pre hardmode for melee other than old lord until you reach Wall

[blazing field]

that has weight to its design

[dull heart]

Itnwould be yeah

[fathom girder]

Erm... why is the sword named Earth bigger than the sword named Galactus blade

[blazing field]

and looks like a sword that was made to be big

[hasty hawk]

WE MIGHT HAVE RETURN OF THE FUNNY

[cobalt wharf]

it’s mid

[blazing field]

alot of other big swords in the dmod however

just look like swords that you upscaled

they dont look heavy or like theyre meant to be big

[unique warren]

Like, what else is big?

[cobalt wharf]

yes they overlap but ven locket clones are still so dogshit it doesn’t matter lol

[lyric trellis]

Yharon meta clearly

[cobalt wharf]

extra projectiles that deal 7.5% of base damage and have zero armor penetration to account for it oh boy

[dull heart]

i mean, there is if tou want range or faster kills iirc

[halcyon seal]

I could take him

[hasty hawk]

the funny was spawning hundreds of those per second

[halcyon seal]

I’d say holy collider does tbh

[hasty hawk]

happened with Final Dawn

[cobalt wharf]

no issue like that happens

[unique warren]

I thought that was an executioner blade thing?

[hasty hawk]

thats a different thing

[vocal pagoda]

Old lord has plenty good damage and really good consistency

Plus you can get if before you do any boss

[hasty hawk]

But Final Dawn on release would spam Ven locket daggers if you held the scythe up

this was quickly hotfixed

[unique warren]

[dull heart]

yeah but its a lot rarer

[unique warren]

Old Lord + Bladecrest is actually so fucking peak holy shit

[rotund venture]

that whole weapon line is amazing

[hoary edge]

devil's devastation line is some whack-a-mole type stuff not gonna lie

[dull heart]

ven locket is peak with thread of eradication

idk if it's good

but it's peak

[unique warren]

Why would it be peak

[rotund venture]

that line and abyss blade line are prob my fave melee weapons

[dull heart]

not

[rotund venture]

new holy collider and new earth also incredible

[dull heart]

i meant DImension Tearing Disc

[unique warren]

lo

[dull heart]

oops

ven locket wwith a bow 🔥

[fierce nebula]

I haven’t seen new holy collider

[dusky perch]

im assuming catalyst isbugged with the new update

[unique warren]

It's cool.

But it's also trackpad phobic

[dull heart]

it should work

they already updated iirc

[dusky perch]

game hates me then

le sigh

[grave rock]

I kinda dislike how many people care about the "meta" in like Cal and Vanilla Terraria
Idk if this is true but it feels like something that became more present in Calamity then bled thru vanilla

[hasty hawk]

just some minor bugs like rarities on intergalactic auric, but it works

[dusky perch]

porbly a me thing then ill see whats causing it

[rotund venture]

hall of fame quotes ^

[wary crest]

Is mage still a menace with the star beam rework or is it back closer to where it used to be

[halcyon seal]

I think it makes perfect sense from a game design perspective, you want to know what the meta is so you can nerf the broken parts and buff the underwhelming parts

The end goal of balancing in every game with weapons is to have everything be about as good as each other, generally speaking

[prisma sun]

How far are yall?

[dusky perch]

after 5 crashes i bring it up and it randomly works fine to make me look like a fool #ok

[solemn crest]

I think having one or two bad items isn’t a bad thing tho. Players who want only a bit of a challenge can use those

[halcyon seal]

That’s why I said generally

Obviously when you’re making an actual game, having everything be roughly the same viability is pretty lame and boring

Having things that are a little better/worse than other weapons is fine, just not too much better/worse

[dull heart]

Well, for everything to have a valid use case

[unique warren]

Yo can y'all kill burning sky btw thanks

[halcyon seal]

Better way of wording it yeah

[dull heart]

except joke items

[winter kiln]

they made the cosmolight worse

[solemn crest]

Where’s calamity’s version of the DS2 soup ladle?

[halcyon seal]

Indeed they did

[fierce nebula]

Cosmolight was overpowered

[rotund venture]

surprised it hasn't been reworked

[fierce nebula]

I’ve always been a cosmolight nerf advocate

[winter kiln]

what's the point of it when by the time you get it there's only one time dependent boss (providence)

[halcyon seal]

That is the point

[rotund venture]

Provi no longer time dependant

[halcyon seal]

You get time manipulation after time is an irrelevant factor

[solemn crest]

Time to run an afk blood moon farm for 7 hours

[winter kiln]

that makes the item pointless you might as well remove it at that point

[tropic jolt]

[halcyon seal]

And besides bakidon still exists

[halcyon seal]

Blood orb farming

Bloodstone farming

[dull heart]

it has uses

[fierce nebula]

No it doesn’t

[halcyon seal]

Hardmode moons

[rotund venture]

you can use Bakidon to freeze night for a while to fight mechs

[halcyon seal]

Building

[unique warren]

Bakidon has way different use case tbf

[solemn crest]

Infinite provi???

[rotund venture]

cosmolight is a convenience item

[dull heart]

its just no longer busted

[winter kiln]

and i don't like how so much stuff was removed

[tropic jolt]

old cosmolight was a mutant mod item that snuck it’s way into calamity somehow

[halcyon seal]

It was gonna get removed at some point

[fierce nebula]

The point is allowing instant infinite time manipulation as soon as you entered hardmode was dumb

[halcyon seal]

Calamity has waaaaaaay too much stuff in it

[hybrid merlin]

yall think its worth replaying calamity for this update

[halcyon seal]

Yes

[fierce nebula]

Yes

[unique warren]

Why does cosmic plushie have such bad AI

[muted egret]

why does it feel like the accelertation buff isnt working rn

im so slow when i turn around

[halcyon seal]

Don’t be mean they’re trying their best

[unique warren]

It's almost more annoying than just having the red devil

[rotund venture]

so many grea weapon reworks alone make it worth, let alone the boss reworks

[fierce nebula]

Just dash 🫧 🐠

[dull heart]

yes

[unreal shuttle]

the new minion bug is so annoying

[muted egret]

yeah i know but i'd like my endgame boots to do something

just feel like it might be a bug

[unreal shuttle]

why is bro using boots in endgame

[cinder hearth]

Yes

There's a LOOOOOT of reworks, be it weapons, bosses, accessories, everything

[dull heart]

whats your loadout

do you happen to be stacking them with fairy boors or hellfire treads

[muted egret]

auric tesla and seraph tracers

no

[unreal shuttle]

wings of rebirth are better in every way

[muted egret]

wait wtf its the diving shit

[fierce nebula]

Lmao

[sinful dagger]

I’m only about halfway through the game but I feel like the boss damage in death mode is too low

[muted egret]

abyssal diving suit

[muted egret]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-bro-i-guess-bro-bro-what-whatever-you-say-gif-16572066316579867256

[unreal shuttle]

anyways chat peep the base

[fierce nebula]

Amazing image

[fierce nebula]

Good

[unique warren]

What is the goozma lore (and by lore i mean development lore) anyways

[hybrid merlin]

does the new calamity version work with infernum

[fierce nebula]

Yes

[unreal shuttle]

yes

[sinful dagger]

I saw that boss damage was generally nerfed in the changelogs, I feel like the nerf was too big

[deep bough]

It’s developed

[unique warren]

We get it bro

[sinful dagger]

Ain’t there a dedicated lore chat little buddy

[hoary edge]

oh now I need to use profaned core for the second time while providence is above 95% health to be enraged eh?

[sinful dagger]

This is for update talk

[unique warren]

I'm not talking about actual lore, chuddy

I'm talking about Goozma and he's irrelevant to the lore

[twin mural]

Goddamn

That's so cool

[distant raft]

at the time when goozma even was a thing it was irrelevant iirc

[unreal shuttle]

[twin mural]

Is Goozma even canon in calamity lore

[distant raft]

because goozma was before "noxus is the fusion of all dark gods" part iirc

[unique warren]

I see

[hoary edge]

magnificent

[mystic eagle]

It does not even exist nor get mentioned in any way in Cal

[unreal shuttle]

and i think noxus is just one big strong guy now with the newest version of the lore

[deep bough]

It’s just goozma

[distant raft]

the gooz got ship of thesesed into noxus

it was a thing in fucking ancient lore

[deep bough]

I’m goozingw

[unreal shuttle]

like no auric soul

[unique warren]

Tbh I don't know why they don't just name this guy Goozma but whatevs

[placid kite]

What stage has the most fun mage weapons in your opinion

[distant raft]

but its not been in cal lore for like 8 years

[distant raft]

that would cause confusion

[mild dew]

I always thought he was goozma what

[deep bough]

It’s the slime slime god god

[unique warren]

Good

[mild dew]

Goozma is such a cool name we need that to be the slime gods name

[unreal shuttle]

what even is noxus in current lore

[twin mural]

Calamitas Clone in prehardmode??????

[distant raft]

distortion creature

[blazing field]

I mean for one it'd probably be confusing

[unreal shuttle]

is noxus still real?

[unique warren]

Good

[blazing field]

Same reason why ND isn't called xeroc anymore but like reverse

[unreal shuttle]

i dont even think he is mentioned in-game right now

[distant raft]

prolly the big bad in the distortion

[blazing field]

yeah

[distant raft]

yeah

[blazing field]

he is kinda

but not directly

he's alluded to

[unreal shuttle]

in dog lore item?

[blazing field]

he's a character that is intentionally kept mysterious

[unique warren]

I LOVE spreading misinformation and creating confusion!

[unreal shuttle]

right?

[blazing field]

in a few other places hes alluded to aswell

[distant raft]

noxus sits on its ass all day drinking godly soul double gulp from his suspiciously devourer of gods shaped straw and watching yharTV

[blazing field]

ceaseless void lore item

draedon distortion dialogue iirc

[unreal shuttle]

...distortion?

oh

OH

the dimension

[distant raft]

so far noxus is potential entity

[hoary merlin]

I need help, is there any accessories in the game that can help you see thing clear in the abyss?

I can't see shit

[unique warren]

Please don't give me the image of noxus suckin on DoG

[distant raft]

pins

[unreal shuttle]

has it been confirmed by the lore writers that its noxus

[distant raft]

yeah

[hoary merlin]

thanks

[unreal shuttle]

awesome

[blazing field]

yeah noxus is one of the planned superbosses for th emod

not even just confirmed by lore writers just

devs in general

[unreal shuttle]

i knew that

noxus is gonna be post yharim alongside xeroc i think

[unique warren]

I thought it was only pseudo-confirmed to be added as a superboss

[blazing field]

and i mean knowing noxus is one of the two planned superbosses

[blazing field]

technically yeah actually

but, its likely to be added

technically could not

but p likely

[unique warren]

Like Yharim is guaranteed unless kill 7 billion cal devs

[wary crest]

Surely we’ll get it by 2035

[unreal shuttle]

in 40 years

[twin mural]

I told a friend a bit of calamity lore and he told me it was copied from Fire Emblem lore

[blazing field]

im pretty sure literally none of the lore writers have ever played fire emblem

[mild dew]

What’s the difference between a boss and a super boss I’ve always been kinda confused about that

[blazing field]

😭

[hoary merlin]

does having one pet is enough to light up in the abyss?

[distant raft]

ive not played fire emblem so i cannot comment on this

[blazing field]

Well its comlicated

[twin mural]

Neither

[blazing field]

it depends on the game i suppose but generally

[unreal shuttle]

how much stronger is xeroc from yharim right now anyways considering he was equal to yharim pre-ascension

[distant raft]

superbosses tend to be optional bosses that are significantly harder than other on tier bosses

[blazing field]

its an optional bossfight not needed for story progression that is far harder than other bosses in its point of progression, and often dosen't give the player many meaningful rewards

though in cal's case it's tricky bc like

[mild dew]

Oh alright thanks

[blazing field]

xeroc and noxus are post-yharim

so like

in technical terms

i think they're more like epilogue bosses than superbosses

but, they are reffered to as superbosses, so

again

[rose laurel]

None of us have ever played Fire Emblem

[distant raft]

is the 50 coordinated yharims still a thing

[unreal shuttle]

[blazing field]

it just kinda varies

[rose laurel]

[blazing field]

between game to game

[unreal shuttle]

[mild dew]

Can’t wait to fight these guys after I retire🔥

[blazing field]

alot stronger

[wary crest]

Our great grand children might see noxus exist

[blazing field]

xeroc's the strongest character in the entire mod basically

[twin mural]

Primordial Wyrm is a super boss right
Or just a hidden one

[rose laurel]

Have you ever read or watched Jujutsu Kaisen?

[distant raft]

hidden

[unreal shuttle]

how the fuck is yharim planning to kill all gods with this guy 😂

[blazing field]

the only characters that really rival them in any meaningful way (and rival in the sense they'd have a chance, even if unlikely, to win) are prime moon lord and

[unreal shuttle]

no but i am extremely fluent in project moon lore and i have crafted a few theories of mine about it.

if you could powerscale using that

[rose laurel]

Fuck

Hum

[wary crest]

I have and am curious where you’re going with this

[blazing field]

exactly !

[unique warren]

I have

[hoary merlin]

wait so basically it just reduced some intensity, you still can't see things clearly in the abyss after all

[rose laurel]

Well ok for the JJK watchers

[blazing field]

Lauraaa

spoiler taggg

i started jjk like

few days ago

[rose laurel]

I imagine the gap between Yharim and Xeroc to be the same as the one between Yuta and Gojo

[unique warren]

That isn't that crazy tbf

[blazing field]

Yharim's mission was pointless from the beggining, not only in a moral standpoint (It's not benefitting anyone in the slightest and is just kind of Evil for No Good Reason) but also pointless in the practical sense

like

[rose laurel]

Basically

[dusk bronze]

this is a fight he cannot win

[blazing field]

from the getgo yharim's dream was borderline impossible, beyond just being completely uencessary

EXACTLY

[unique warren]

Like that's a decent jump but nothing crazy, Haraki low diffs both anyways

[blazing field]

YOU GET IT

[obtuse hawk]

dude... like the song!!!!!!!!!

[rose laurel]

Yes, Yharim can fight against Xeroc and not get instantly pummeled

[obtuse hawk]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[twin mural]

Then

Currently there's still no actual superboss right

[dusk bronze]

correct

[mild dew]

Imagine being like the strongest king and warrior ever just to be beaten by a guy who appeared from fucking nowhere

[unique warren]

Depending on how they implement the two, there may never be

[fierce nebula]

I’m a superboss

[distant raft]

the closest are the gfb joke bosses but theyre jokes

[unreal shuttle]

can we compare it to like

fuckin
lei heng and kong qiu

[unique warren]

Dude no one knows who those people are

[distant raft]

i do

[rose laurel]

But he's never winning unless he pulls out some insane fucking bullshit or an insane plan to close the gap

[rose laurel]

Nah

[unreal shuttle]

laura has a pmoon pfp they probably know

[unreal shuttle]

damn

[unique warren]

Yeah and you're a nobody... roasted...

[rose laurel]

Idk what to compare it to maybe like

[fierce nebula]

Liberal owned

[distant raft]

yarrr... do this be true...?

[unique warren]

plunder 7 billion mateys

[mild dew]

By the time calamity is finished it could honestly just be called terraria 2

[fierce nebula]

Why are you a pirate now

[blazing field]

I DO

[fierce nebula]

Terraria 2

[blazing field]

DONT DISS MY GOAT(S)

[deep bough]

When terraria is finished it could be called terraria 3

[rose laurel]

I guess a Grade 1 to an Arbiter...?

[unique warren]

Well you're a... no body... boom roasted

[mild dew]

True

[blazing field]

no i'm not "no body"

i'm 2.1.1

[unreal shuttle]

lucio and valencina

[mild dew]

[unreal shuttle]

holy
fucking shit

[rose laurel]

No

[dusk bronze]

can you do a comparison in calamity boss terms
like the gap is as big fuckin uhhh
slime god vs who

[unreal shuttle]

thats like uh

very big difference

[blazing field]

calamity boss terms

[rotund venture]

maybe in avatar tla terms?

[blazing field]

the gap is as big as yharim to xeroc

[rose laurel]

Yharim and Xeroc's gap is as big as Yharim and Xeroc's

[blazing field]

[rose laurel]

[fierce nebula]

Explain it in TROVE terms please

[blazing field]

lmao

[dusk bronze]

yeah but there's no way to measure that right now

[wary crest]

[unique warren]

Seems like a DoG to maybe yharon or even scal/exo mechs

[unreal shuttle]

paust

[unique warren]

Wait there's a canon tier list for powerscalers

[rose laurel]

Nah

As I said

[twin mural]

Dang

[rose laurel]

.

[rose laurel]

.

[dusk bronze]

so like
provi vs scal

?

[rose laurel]

No

[unique warren]

So peak

[dusk bronze]

bruh

[unreal shuttle]

a grade 1 vs arbiter is like

grade 1 is gonna get shit on in like 10 seconds

[unique warren]

Would DoG not be able to lay hands on Yharon a lil

[dusk bronze]

powerscaling sucks

[rose laurel]

No, DoG would have an actual fight

[unique warren]

I see

[fierce nebula]

Can we powerscale trove characters

[unreal shuttle]

thats awesome

[rose laurel]

I suppose a Color to an Arbiter works better than

[unreal shuttle]

i see

[twin mural]

Like EoL vs Providence?

[unique warren]

So like, maybe DoG to Yharim gap?

[rose laurel]

It's also that there are 30 Colors and they go from Argalia to Kali

[unreal shuttle]

absolutely not vespa vs arbiter tho that man got his color title like yesterday 😂

[unique warren]

Holy shit vespa hollow knight

[rose laurel]

And Kali is more comparable to Noxus if anything

[unreal shuttle]

vespa to kali

Argalia 2nd weakest rn because like vespa just befcame a color

[solemn crest]

Would DoG or Slime God win in a fight? 🤔

[rose laurel]

But that's besides the point

[blazing field]

oh gee i wonder

sure do

[dusk bronze]

ok is the gap bigger or smaller than provi vs scal

[fathom girder]

slime god runs away like a bitch

[unique warren]

So yea apparently Primordial Wyrm is cracked like that even in lore

[fathom girder]

but does that count as a dq

[blazing field]

hes getting downscaled unfortunately

very sad

atleat he probably is

[unique warren]

Yeah because devs hate fun

[rose laurel]

Bigger

[unique warren]

Kill 7 billion cal devs

[dusk bronze]

dam

[distant raft]

jared on fraudwatch???

[blazing field]

Kill 7 billion primordial wyrms

[mild dew]

Slime god had to run he’d get slimed the fuck out in like 2 seconds😭

[unique warren]

No,,,

[sleek estuary]

best change ever 🔥

[fathom girder]

The straight up lava immunity is sick

[unique warren]

Nah seriously I think primordial wyrm is perfect as is when only focusing on game stage

[rose laurel]

Like, I think that the dynamic of the final fight of JJK shows how

[unique warren]

The fight not as much

[rose laurel]

Even if you can fight Xeroc

[blazing field]

idk man just saying

[fierce nebula]

They’re called void kicks?!?!?

[blazing field]

i think slime god has a chance

[rose laurel]

You're not fucking winning man lmao

[fathom girder]

SAYS WHO

[dusk bronze]

the wingless version is

[blazing field]

I think the plans for mybe downscaling pw in progression arent really that drastic

its just like

[solemn crest]

?

[fathom girder]

WHo says the terrarian can't beat god

[sleek estuary]

void striders, you can shift right click to disable the wings effect

[fierce nebula]

That’s goated

[blazing field]

pre-yharon iirc?

[rotund venture]

final fight in the manga?

[blazing field]

or post yharon

idrm

so like its not a big downscale

[solemn crest]

Yeah slime god got this

[fierce nebula]

I thought they renamed them for some reason 🥀

[unique warren]

Isn't that the current stage

[blazing field]

nah

pw rn is

[unique warren]

It's scal/exo-tier

[mild dew]

Nah I’d win…

[dusk bronze]

last i heard the plan was same tier as yharon

[blazing field]

posgame

after scal/exo

[fierce nebula]

Like from void striders to void kicks

[blazing field]

so itd be like

[solemn crest]

Final boss for Malice should jut be “slime god, again”

[unique warren]

🤔

[blazing field]

after yharon before scalexos

[sleek estuary]

nah

[velvet tusk]

does after DoG change the ideal class setups shown in the wiki?

[blazing field]

or maybe it was this

idrm

just

a bit weaker than it is now, but, not by much

[limpid grail]

youngest color fixer ever, my favortie arm eater stays winning

[sleek estuary]

but I can finally use moab with better boots this is peak

[blazing field]

which, i do think pw is cool as this super powerful thing but i do gotta say

it is a bit

anticlimatic

to have primordial wyrm right before yharim in progression lol

[deep bough]

What if scal fight was actually 5 scals

[sleek estuary]

now the only thing we need is moab post ml upgrade :3

[blazing field]

i think its for the b est if scal and exos remain as those

[rose laurel]

||Sukuna and Gojo are pretty much identical in strength and even then it took all of Jujutsu high giving their fucking life and doing everything they could just to barely scrape out a win against a massively weakened Sukuna who had his energy output fucked and couldn't expand his domain properly||

[unique warren]

I think tying it further into Silva could help

[blazing field]

essentially the two most important characters to the lroe and world behind yharim

[unique warren]

Are we ever meeting Silva?

That's her name right

[unreal shuttle]

shes DEAD

[solemn crest]

Uhhhh

[blazing field]

it will visually look more tied into silva yeah

both eidolon wyrms and pws are being redesigned

[solemn crest]

You’ve already met Silva…

[blazing field]

Uhhh, not really cuz shes a bit dead rn, but there might be some limited interactions with her idk

[dusk bronze]

you might be able to see her cocoon
but she ain't exactly funtional

[blazing field]

She's immortal so she will come back to life eventually

[rotund venture]

so even a weakened Xeroc is curbstomping Yharim after getting like, scraped a lil bit?

[blazing field]

but htat proccess will like

take a really long time

[solemn crest]

Is she not the planty mush in the abyss?

[wide wadi]

So can gojo beat yharim

[blazing field]

so it'd be a like

postgame event

[unique warren]

I think having a representation of Silva's powers be before Yharim is not at all weird tbh

[rose laurel]

I wouldn't say so because, as I compared Yharim to Yuta

[twin mural]

PW descends from dragons right
Or is directly one

[blazing field]

as in like after the story ends

[dusk bronze]

she made planty mush

[blazing field]

I think the problem is that scal and exos are still ultimately not only more relevant to silva but also realistically idk if pw would be, stronger than them, even with silvas power

[solemn crest]

I thought planty mush was silva’s remains

[dusk bronze]

pw is a non-auric dragon

blessed by silva

[fathom girder]

comparing calamity characters to MGRR: broke
Comparing calamity characters to JJK: woke

[blazing field]

PW is much like old duke in that its one of the very first dragons to not have an auric soul

as they ran out of em

[rose laurel]

||Yuta actually almost beat Sukuna with Itadori, the only thing that went wrong was that they didn't account for Megumi having given up and that let Sukuna get his footing back and use the World Cutting Slash on him||

[blazing field]

but seemingly hes alot less racist than old duke which like good for him

[dusk bronze]

souls broke

[rose laurel]

So basically what I'm saying is

[winter kiln]

i don't think primordial wyrm will ever be a required fight

[twin mural]

How is a non auric dragon more powerful than an auric one

😭

[unique warren]

Yeah and it still being that strong is what makes it interesting

[blazing field]

that's not what i'm sayin

[unreal shuttle]

noxus vs kali according to laura

[blazing field]

It's still optional

[rose laurel]

If someone could significantly weaken Xeroc beforehand

[dusk bronze]

silva blessing

[unique warren]

Holy fuck this chat is getting flooded I can't keep uppp

[blazing field]

I'm not sure what you mean becasue old duke is already pretty strong as is

[rose laurel]

Yharim and Yharon vs Xeroc would probably become a 50/50

[blazing field]

50 conversations ta once

[limpid grail]

same ways some normal people can become stronger than gods

[limpid grail]

also this helps too

[verbal bough]

[unique warren]

Ya but Old Duke-tier strength + Silva blessing would result in smth pretty damn strong

[blazing field]

old duke is a non auric dragon and hes like

stronger than most auric dragons

[rose laurel]

It's just a matter of, y'know

Having someone weaken Xeroc

[twin mural]

Was she just that good?
She got kinda killed by Yharim so I never really paid attention to her besides the fact she forces vegetation in the abyss

[mild dew]

His racism is too powerful

[fathom girder]

I could weaken xeroc...

[solemn crest]

Don’t worry, I’ll take care of it

[blazing field]

Even without the blessing

pw was probably already really strong

[unreal shuttle]

also xeroc straight up fucking injected the wyrm with omega crack

[blazing field]

the blessing is probablyt more of a bonus than anything i imagine

[dusk bronze]

she's the only other god to perform a perfect ascension

[blazing field]

again look at old duke

not blessed or anything

also a non-auric dragon

[dusk bronze]

no they didn't????

[unique warren]

And also racist

[blazing field]

stronger than like

[dusk bronze]

what

[blazing field]

90% of auric dragons

and racist yes

hes very racist

[unreal shuttle]

would pay 100 dollars for someone to animate it

[blazing field]

hes racist towards his own species

[unique warren]

Is PW racist at all?

[unreal shuttle]

primordial light

[solemn crest]

Who would win? 1 calamity dev, or xeroc?

[blazing field]

no pw seems kinda chill

[dusk bronze]

yes

[unique warren]

Just racist to people who want terminus?

[blazing field]

again he's like old duke but alot less racist whch like

good for him

[twin mural]

How do you know

[rose laurel]

PW hates Primordial Light

[blazing field]

he just hates xeroc's ass seemingly

[lyric trellis]

Old duke time stop ability

[vale birch]

2.1.1. notes?

[unique warren]

Which makes sense

[dusk bronze]

wiki

[unique warren]

Xeroc is very iffy morally

[rose laurel]

It was Silva who gave it crack

[unreal shuttle]

wait what so its silva that cracked up the wyrm?

OHHH

o

oık

[blazing field]

Xeroc is a chill guy hes my goat

[solemn crest]

Silva’s a crack dealer confirmed

[dusk bronze]

xeroc/silva divorce theory

[fathom girder]

Old duke is kinda like Monsoon from MGRR

[blazing field]

you get it

[fathom girder]

if you don't think about it

[rotund venture]

Silva got the Terminus in the divorce

[twin mural]

I was gonna say Jared is a very chill name but nvm

[blazing field]

Lore talked about in this server that is not yet in the mod

[hoary merlin]

I think I understand it now, why the lore keep changing

[lyric trellis]

Oh this is a lot cooler than just “big worm is stronger than everyone” lmao

[blazing field]

But will be eventually

[vocal kelp]

hi guys can you pass, the image with the reworks

[dusk bronze]

[unique warren]

Idk he really did some dubious stuff that idk if I can or cannot blame him on

[dusk bronze]

pinned

[unique warren]

But also it's good that the player character won't be able to kill him considering he kinda keeps the sun in check

[solemn crest]

So who is the terminus associated with? I fogor

[blazing field]

He has some moral fallacies but notably i think people are oftne barking at the wrong tree when it comes to those

Like

[dusk bronze]

xeroc mostly

[mild dew]

If you had a chance to ascend to complete godhood but you had to kill a wounded guy would you do it

[blazing field]

I don't think killing Zeratros was his biggest crime, actually

in fact i think that was very much justified from what we know

[unique warren]

Silva a little as well but mostly Xeroc ya

[blazing field]

I think his actual biggest crime is the fact he kinda

isn't actually helping out much

[unique warren]

It's not associated with her but I am pretty sure she used it?

[sinful dagger]

Old Duke charging up his racism

[blazing field]

which i've made a character analysis and theory as to why

[dusk bronze]

didn't do anything

[twin mural]

Why did she do that

[blazing field]

I think Xeroc is a good-intentioned individual

He is trying to be a guardian to terraria

And while eh's not doing the Worst job at it

he is keeping the distortion fuckers at bay

h eis very much doing a flawed job at it

[twin mural]

To have a guardian in what's left of her

?

[blazing field]

yharim, providence, many others

[solemn crest]

Xeroc’s biggest crime is grand theft auto tbh, he stole my Toyota Corolla

[loud lotus]

is prismatic armor worth it or nah?

[mild dew]

Does the terrarian have lore btw

[blazing field]

isn't really doing much towards them

[unique warren]

He's like Kami from dragon ball kinda, like he isn't gonna intervene in shit that will eventually sort itself out

[dusk bronze]

get the image

[blazing field]

and as ive talked about in lore chat before

i think the reason he dosen't do any of that

is

[rotund venture]

maybe should take some of this to Lore chat to flood this one less?

[grizzled orbit]

Xeric's main issue is he isn't paying us to clean up

[blazing field]

Yes!

[grizzled orbit]

And I intend to collect

[lyric trellis]

Xeroc getting humiliated by Noxus forever once again

[blazing field]

Ok if anyone wants to keep listening to my xeric infodump go to lore chat i Guess

[solemn crest]

That mf stole my car, I’m coming after him

[unique warren]

okiii

[grizzled orbit]

Local God not so tough after being shot

[solemn crest]

Xeroc is heavily weakened by breathing in the gamer gunk that corrodes my car

[grizzled orbit]

Lmao the latest patch nerfed Corinth Prime 1 day after my team used it to annihilate DoG lol

Thankfully we didn't wait lol

[dull heart]

I think i nerfed it too hard

[mystic eagle]

Why are you spreading misinformation and shift the blame to me!?

[grizzled orbit]

40% is too rough for us, definitely not going to use it anymore

[dull heart]

Its now like 6 minute dog lol

[fierce nebula]

🥀

[grizzled orbit]

Probably some crit ranger build with Bombardier or something idk

[dull heart]

Instead of 1:30

[granite sapphire]

Okay so idk cause i dont tier skip but did they actually nerf reaver again?

[dull heart]

Yrs

[fierce nebula]

Maybe it should be rebuffed a little

[granite sapphire]

jaw dropping

[mystic eagle]

It went from 1:17 to 6:03

[dull heart]

Good

[grizzled orbit]

Rip, oh well our team's ranger will have to pivot into melee for that fight next run lmao

[granite sapphire]

what mod lets me see dmg contribution

[fierce nebula]

Not good not good!!!!!

[dull heart]

you murder my child i murder you

[mystic eagle]

You murdered Hellborn!

[granite sapphire]

NO

ITS BETTER

[dull heart]

Or just use anotjer weapon

[granite sapphire]

I WILL STAND BY THAT

[fierce nebula]

STOP BALANCING THE GAME

[dull heart]

Itd literally A tier still

[grave rock]

Outside of Corinth Prime what did ranger have for DoG

[mystic eagle]

Went from top of SS Tier to Top A Tier

[granite sapphire]

HELLBORN IS BUSTED NOW

[grizzled orbit]

Shhh we need him to use a different build for once

[fierce nebula]

It should be SSS tier

[granite sapphire]

MOIRE THAN BEFORE

[mystic eagle]

I know but you still killed it

[dull heart]

2.1.1 nerfed it

[granite sapphire]

hellborn is less braindead

[cunning sequoia]

nerf = unusable

[dull heart]

423 to 300 dmg

[cunning sequoia]

sorry thats how it works

[mystic eagle]

A stands for

what's a synonym for dead that starts with a

[cunning sequoia]

absent

[granite sapphire]

eh, i can stand by that

[cunning sequoia]

idk close enough

[dull heart]

a dead

[granite sapphire]

it was rlly powerful

[dull heart]

Yeah

[granite sapphire]

freaking brimmy weapon viable on providence

[grizzled orbit]

Our team's ranger did great with Hellborn for a long time

[dull heart]

Only provi?

[dull heart]

Worse than before tho

[granite sapphire]

at minimum

[dull heart]

Before it was polter

Or so

[mystic eagle]

Correct

[granite sapphire]

the thing dealt insane dmg and before 2.1 as well it was too much

[dull heart]

Yeah

[grizzled orbit]

Oh flasks affect Hellborn?

[mystic eagle]

affected

[dull heart]

Thats why it was the first nerf of 2.1.1

[grizzled orbit]

Ah ok

[fathom girder]

It took me a second to realize that fucking polter is in there lmao

[dull heart]

Not anymore, but they DO work on ram dashes now

[granite sapphire]

did crumbling get nerfed or smth?

[mystic eagle]

2.1 test

[grizzled orbit]

Interesting, more ways to spread ichor 🤔

[granite sapphire]

Oh so slagsplitter crumbling...

Thats hot

[fathom girder]

Ram dash damage builds are a thing post plantera yeah

Because you can stack ram boost accessories and then also use double old fashioned

becoming a nuke

[granite sapphire]

Yeah i might do a ram run and a defiled acro run

[grizzled orbit]

Yeah rams do surprisingly decent damage now

[granite sapphire]

slagsplitter looks cool too

instead of just boom boom boom

[mystic eagle]

Incase you're wondering because of pre 2.1 Hellborn, no but Hellborn could only use Vanilla Flasks for some reason

[granite sapphire]

Also dunno if its just me but new master death and expert rev are like infinitely more fun than infernum aside from polterghast and providence

[grizzled orbit]

I've just been using it for distance until our melee guy pointed out his ram damage lol

[granite sapphire]

lol thats so weird

[granite sapphire]

slagsplitter doesnt get distance iirc

[grizzled orbit]

Ah I meant rams in general

[granite sapphire]

its just explosions frorm nearby/grazing enemies

god i dont wanna do mage but i have to cuz i cant get to rogue without passing mage reworks and new weapons

[dull heart]

Has anyone tried buffed high ruler

[granite sapphire]

i never liked early game mage ever

[dull heart]

Good News

Star in a bottle mega buff makes it WAY better

Star in a bottle now grants mana regen potion effect

[granite sapphire]

i like mana regen builds but

[fathom girder]

I'm gonna do an IV old fashioned high ruler run

probably

[granite sapphire]

i dont get anything till eater

[dull heart]

You no longer are required to make potions to be able to even function

[granite sapphire]

and frost bolt is really boring

the new bouncing rework is cool tho

good job whoever did that

[fathom girder]

Mage is somewhat simple until you get to slime god

[granite sapphire]

also

[fathom girder]

and then it continues to be consistently strong until you get chaos stone

[granite sapphire]

why is a sniper rifle a mage weapon

[fathom girder]

which is when things start to get crazy

[dull heart]

It could probably get up to 1200 dps alone if spammed

[granite sapphire]

i know magic guns exist but its a literal sniper

also the storm shoots lightning and is ranger

[fathom girder]

wait doze, I forget

[grizzled orbit]

My team's ranger's disappointment when we got the thunderstorm sniper and it's a mage weapon

[fathom girder]

do the ram dash buff accessories work on high ruler

[granite sapphire]

cant forget to mention the sniper has kickback

[dull heart]

Yea

[fathom girder]

alright good

[granite sapphire]

deadass

[fathom girder]

That's gonna be the crux of making the build actually last lul

[dull heart]

High ruler also just has 300 base dmg now

[granite sapphire]

i was so excited to use it on my ranger run

[granite sapphire]

which class is that i dont remember using it unless it was just a buff insetad of rework

[fathom girder]

high ruler warbanner sounds silly

[granite sapphire]

warbanner buff is also peak

[grizzled orbit]

Oh the hero's shield. Yeah I used it. I liked it but I used it defensively as a way to bounce away from enemies trying to melee rather than damage

Also 15% projectile resist when facing is very comfy for my tanky build

[granite sapphire]

i liked how it was mostly a tmelee accessory but its also like more understandable being universal since its no longer called warbanner of the sun

[fathom girder]

mmm yeah maybe I should just make it a true melee build and not HIGH RULER ONLY

[granite sapphire]

true melee in cal is so much more fun now

except exos

exos will forever be miserable

and devils devastation right click can hit scal so thats not a worry if you dont use the left click

[fathom girder]

I'll simply use cosmic discharge

[unreal shuttle]

i wanna see concept art for noxus and post-ascencion xeroc

[granite sapphire]

i dont think thats tmelee is it

[grizzled orbit]

True melee build -> boss that is always far away from you ->

[fathom girder]

it doesn't fire a projectile, does it

[granite sapphire]

fr i think our only knowledge of post ascension xeroc is the primordial light

[granite sapphire]

its a flail

[fathom girder]

Are flails not allowed

[granite sapphire]

and flails are generally considered not tmelee

controversially

though so people believe the spinning flails can be tmelee

which i do as well

[fathom girder]

I say flails are tmelee

they're not a projectile it's a flail

[granite sapphire]

well they kinda are

[fathom girder]

There's flails that shoot projectiles and those AREN'T tmelee

cuz those shoot projectiles

[granite sapphire]

in the game code the ball itself that deals dmg is considered a projectile iirc

and the shooting flails

like dragon pow or cosmic discharge

[fathom girder]

geh

[granite sapphire]

are also projectiles iirc

[fathom girder]

guh

[granite sapphire]

doze do you think flails are tmelee, or just spinning ones

[fathom girder]

alright I'm done with the tmelee argument I'm doing this now

[granite sapphire]

cause calamity doesnt separate them into tmelee

[granite sapphire]

oh thats high ruler

i never used it lol

might have to this update

[unreal shuttle]

[dull heart]

No

[fathom girder]

High ruler is very good, on tier

[dull heart]

Neither is tmleee

[granite sapphire]

neat

[fathom girder]

I'm doing a shitpost high ruler accessory damage focused run so it'll ofc wreck prehm but

Oh yeah and didn't you buff the rebound mechanic this patch, doze

[granite sapphire]

as least thats confirmation instead of blabbering about IF and not IS

honestly thats another thanks\

cuz i HAVE to get some schoolwork done

also my older brother turns 19 soon so yay

[granite sapphire]

gl later in late post ml

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440402238307700817/1463659156589379670/c30ff9349e9eac49578596a84bee77a6.gif

rip

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[fathom girder]

The strat is gonna be warbanner

[granite sapphire]

freaky orca gif

[crisp rover]

Cosmolight

https://tenor.com/view/airball-nba-brick-gif-15266795546092124798

[fathom girder]

Cosmolight is way better now

[unreal shuttle]

yall should add the tiantui star's blade ngl and it should deal 5 limbillion damage per swing

[dull heart]

Yrs

[fathom girder]

wonderful

[crisp rover]

But now I gotta wait in bed for like a minute per mech boss/EoL attempt

[fathom girder]

Bakidon can freeze time for a bit

Make use of that

[dull heart]

Use bakidon to freeze time

Also per attempt??

[crisp rover]

Ohhhhhh

[dull heart]

How long are your attempts lol

[fathom girder]

yeah bakidon is a very suitable replacement

[crisp rover]

I'd prefer not to get jumpscared by an Enraged Destroyer because my attempt ran slightly into the day 😭

[dull heart]

he doesn't enrage

Wjll just leave

But also night lasts like 9 minutes

If you're taking even half that for one fight you probably need better gear

[fathom girder]

Wait hold on, is High ruler's dash as long as the asgardian aegis dash? that's kinda nuts

wait huh, IV drip on the rocks doesn't buff high ruler

[dull heart]

Should match tabi

[fathom girder]

That's plenty for an entire run, that's good

[dull heart]

Make sure its above ruler and try again

Idk

[fathom girder]

Put it above and it still didn't change

[dull heart]

guh

[cobalt wharf]

does bakidon prevent things like herbs from growing while active

[dull heart]

it does journey time freeze

[fathom girder]

Maybe it having a damage stat is messing with something somewhere

[dull heart]

dunno

Or the dmg source isn't set

[fathom girder]

Oh well, I'll keep it cuz I'm still gonna use tesla amulet and plague heart and whatnot

which do benefit, I tested, so it's just bugged with high ruler

[cobalt wharf]

high ruler is just soc right

[dull heart]

Yeah

[fathom girder]

SoC but better in a buncha ways

yea

[cobalt wharf]

soc i think just deals completely set damage

[dull heart]

Soc with more dmg and kickback

[cobalt wharf]

fully unboostable unless it crits

[dull heart]

It scwles with melee

[fathom girder]

That could be why it's causing problems tho

[cobalt wharf]

the TOOLTIP says melee damage but im pretty sure it just doesn’t lol

[fathom girder]

oh no it does

[dull heart]

hmm

[fathom girder]

it gets buffed by molten armor

[cobalt wharf]

i think vanillas weird tooltip for it just lies

[fathom girder]

high ruler does too

[cobalt wharf]

odd

nvm then kill me

[dull heart]

We did redo their bonk implementation slightly

[crisp rover]

Ok yeah no, the Bakidon helped immensely

[dull heart]

But its mostly the same

[crisp rover]

I just don't like things changing, it's scary

[fathom girder]

lul

[tropic jolt]

😨

[dry condor]

is the bullet filled shotgun supposed to explode on 2nd bounce?

[gritty leaf]

whats change in calamity 2.1.1 version ???

[dire veldt]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/2.1.1

[gritty leaf]

thx

[dull heart]

Yes

[golden snow]

why my infernium mode errors?

[fierce nebula]

Brain surgery

[neat sequoia]

"after bouncing twice"

how does that work when they explode on second contact

[dull heart]

odd

Idk

Might be a mistake in tooltip

I dont recall

[neat sequoia]

it got changed this update

[ocean juniper]

nooo conrith goatttt

[tall mulch]

yo guys, how do i craft the astral chunk????? i think it got changed and idk what to do, i got the materials but it doesn't let me craft it. pls help me

[ocean juniper]

also brain surgery is a fun name

[dusk bronze]

decrypt the planetoid schematic

[tall mulch]

how do i do that

[dusk bronze]

sigh

[dire veldt]

my guess is that infernum hasnt updated to calamity 2.1.1 but somehow mine works (mostly) fine.
Brain of Cthulu isnt working for me tho

[icy stump]

Craft Codebreaker and its upgrades

[dusk bronze]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Assembling_the_Codebreaker

[tall mulch]

this is insane

[faint ravine]

Is it possible to defeat new DoG without using any kind of dash at all?

[fierce nebula]

Yes

I would be very surprised if it wasn’t

[dusk bronze]

someone beat malice dog dashless wingless nohit in a box

before the update released

[grim pecan]

DoG was explicitly designed to be beatable dashless

it's easier with dashes yes, but they are in no way required

[spark kiln]

how good is galaxia now

[faint ravine]

Good.

[rich ginkgo]

sorry but this is so funny to me

[dull heart]

Not malice tbf

But malice is fake

[rich ginkgo]

i know exo mechs is completely optional but for a boss supposed to equal scal this is so embarrassing

[dull heart]

Yes, i nohit him with no dash hook or mounts

On death

[grim pecan]

malice isn't real and should not be talked about in any serious discussion about cal's bosses

[rich ginkgo]

do people actually just completely ignore the codebreaker?

is it still that un-useful

or do people just not know about it

[hasty tangle]

before 2.1, it was definitely a lot more doable

[hasty tangle]

this is definitely part of it

it was very easy to go the whole game and not know about the codebreaker until post yharon

[cobalt wharf]

there’s no asterisk here right

[rich ginkgo]

im happy it's being more expanded upon with 2.1 but it should maybe be a little less hidden

when is that fucking rock or whatever coming out

lore rock

lore pebble

[hasty tangle]

now its a good bit harder since some of the other boss summons required decrypted schematics

[faint ravine]

Hmm, it's just that in all the videos I've seen of the new update, I've only seen people killing him with some kind of dash.

[cobalt wharf]

it’s entirely only used for a niche set of weapons in the mod that has too many weapons so yeah

[dull heart]

Yeah because thats easier

[hasty tangle]

tbf its still a bandaid fix, but hopefully it should maroon less new players

[cobalt wharf]

move eglove to arsenal

[dull heart]

People always used dashes anyway

Even before now

[spark kiln]

you’ll notice that most of them also drank water that day

very interesting

[rich ginkgo]

i still stand by like 80% of the bosses in this game/mod not needing to drop weapons upon death at all

weapon bloat is real i promise

it makes codebreaker so much more un-useful too

[cobalt wharf]

unfortunately people get really mad whenever you remove their beloved blingus

[rich ginkgo]

"oh just more weapons whatever i have like 200 in my chests"

[grim pecan]

it also helps that the arsenal waepons are actually something people want to craft now

[arctic cliff]

Plaguebrunger should drop an extra required schematic to get half of her weapons

[mighty geyser]

i think every boss should drop at least one
but like every single cal boss has a weapon for every single class

[rich ginkgo]

if they know what the codebreaker is in the first place sure

😭

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

[spark kiln]

i like how ppl pretend that bloat isn’t a problem and then there’s an entire market for weapon guide videos because it’s so hard to know what weapons to pick

[arctic cliff]

and also the codebreaker for that matter

[grizzled orbit]

real players pick up a copper shortsword and no hit scal

[rich ginkgo]

this LOL there's already those calamity class guides for 2.1 because people still have no clue what to be using out of a million different options

[fast vessel]

Im trying to take a poll about how people feel about the new Calamity update to see what the consensus is. Please just answer these questions, it only takes a minute: https://forms.gle/vrR7AiVa4w7oRrjf7

[mighty geyser]

people hate on class setups users a lot but dawg i just cant be assed to scroll through the entire weapons page

[cobalt wharf]

vanilla optional bosses normally have a set of 4 things for each class
cal bosses are ONLY optional until post moon lord so they’re kinda sheeped into having the same set or else they’re pointless to fight

[spark kiln]

no it’s completely valid

[pale wedge]

guys WHEN can i get this i farmed 300 of these guys and i cant get it

[faint ravine]

In the videos I saw, it seemed impossible to escape the Devourer of Gods advances without a dash.

[spark kiln]

class setups are a great way to know what hundreds of weapon to ignore

[dull heart]

what difficulty did you watch

[spark kiln]

and it’s so silly to act like more always equals better

[rich ginkgo]

true

[spark kiln]

like sure technically you aren’t losing anything by keeping a useless weapon in the game

but game design exists and new players will be overwhelmed and turned off by the bloated number of choices to choose from when in reality there’s usually only 3-4 weapons that are actually useful for that class at any point in progression

[mighty geyser]

actually yes you are

it creates more potential balance work

[spark kiln]

that too

[rich ginkgo]

technically there's like 3 variables:

1. time spent
2. storage wasted
3. materials wasted

[faint ravine]

I think one was in Death and the other in Malice.

[rich ginkgo]

then this

[dull heart]

malice is not intended to be played really

it's explicitly insanely hard to make that point clear

[faint ravine]

I understand, but in death it also seemed quite difficult to dodge.

[hasty tangle]

it definitely is possible to dodge dog's attacks without a ram dash

i still like using one because it makes it easier, but it is by no means forced

[dull heart]

lemme find my nohit

[dull heart]

https://youtu.be/zuEVRZCgHvM

this was my nohit of death without dash or mount or hook

this is like

slightly different now

balance was adjusted

but still just as doable

[frail owl]

[rich ginkgo]

was death (or just the "harder" difficulties in general) buffed at all in 2.1.1? because last night i was hearing about how they're allegedly too easy

[dull heart]

we undertuned dmg early game

on accident

and/or overtuned defense

later on it's fine

[rich ginkgo]

sounds good

[halcyon seal]

“More = better” is how we got like half of cal’s current bosses

[fathom girder]

Oh! High ruler doesn't get buffed by rage or adrenaline

I might um

[halcyon seal]

Not the good concepts they’ll eventually become, the actual bosses

[fathom girder]

abort this run

[dull heart]

huh

[mighty geyser]

more = better is how we got everything about cal

[rich ginkgo]

aquatic scourge existing because fab just felt like adding it lol

[mighty geyser]

in particular the community attitude

[fathom girder]

it just straight up isn't getting the damage buffs, I think there's something wrong with how it takes buffs and not IV drip

it's working with melee buffs but like. nothing else

[mighty geyser]

RAHHHH I HATE AQUATIC SCOURGE

[spark kiln]

there’s not really a problem with this back in the day when it was just a guy making stuff for fun

[mighty geyser]

yeah

[rich ginkgo]

that's true

[clear gate]

is this update called green needle or brain storm?

[spark belfry]

Yeah death mode early on felt like I was getting hit by a fly swatter at times, even rocking ranger with mostly menacing

Quite odf

[rich ginkgo]

terraria was always supposed to be silly and random and fun but when you try to make it more serious i guess like modern cal does everything just falls apart

[spark belfry]

Odd*

[rich ginkgo]

like you try to apply lore to half this shit and you genuinely cant think of anything because you're like "wtf even is this??"

[clear gate]

did this update affect yoyos?

[rich ginkgo]

and then you just end up asking why it's in the game in the first place

[spark kiln]

some of them yes

[clear gate]

i want to do sub class run with this new update what should i try?

what got most things?

[spark kiln]

all of them got a lot

[rich ginkgo]

true melee

true melee probably got the biggest changes

[mighty geyser]

not really true

theres like 4 things that arent canon and 3 of them are real life seasonal events

[clear gate]

i kinda dislike true melee. i wish there was a thing called THE TRUE TRUE MELEE. where if you hit enemies no extra projectiles wont spawn

if only true melee was actually true

[mighty geyser]

the only non-holiday thing that isn't canon is the eclipse enemies

[rich ginkgo]

i think that's kinda what the update did

[clear gate]

i havent played it yet. that would be tuff

[mighty geyser]

which are. also references to real life pop culture

oh and deerclops

[rich ginkgo]

no i mean like things feeling like they were randomly stuck in for the sake for it because well they were

[clear gate]

does calamity work in cloud? can i play from 2 computers the same single player map?

[dull heart]

technically yes

but

i would not reccomend

[gloomy geyser]

did the new update just come out or is it about to release? I just joined sorry