calamity-update-talk

[blazing field]

not in the "i want her way" but more so i just think she's very pleasant to look at. hairstyle's great too

i like both of htem but i like shimmer a bit more

[unreal shuttle]

been a party girl is pretty truther since i found her

[mighty geyser]

i dont see it at all

[blazing field]

steampunker is the most british brit to ever brit

[craggy wagon]

i will give the portraits this they have very pretty colors

[tired adder]

pinkie pie vs. rainbow dash

[pulsar cobalt]

guys

[blazing field]

her entire existence is a industrial revolution brit stereotype

[mighty geyser]

shes an amalgam of british and scottish based on whatever red felt like at the time

[pulsar cobalt]

guys

[mighty geyser]

also steampunk is literally britain aesthetic

[final pine]

i know what kind of woman you are.

[pulsar cobalt]

she uses steampunk

[frigid matrix]

I'm expecting it to be renamed to 2.2 this year

[pulsar cobalt]

thats the MOST british thing ever

[frigid matrix]

I'm talking about your nickname

[blazing field]

Maybe!

It's early on in the year and caldevs are probably gonna make development more efficient from now on

it's possible

[frigid matrix]

What are the chances of this happening?

[hot wadi]

btw why is the gel pick 90% pickaxe power

[blazing field]

Won't be sunken sea tho probablyu

sunken sea gets sent to backlog hell for committing the horrible crime of

torturing calamity devs for 2 years

sunken cost overhaul

[meager lava]

is astrum aureus glitched

i havent fought him in so long but he seems bugged

[frigid matrix]

What else is planned? I heard that the DoG resprite was cancelled and won't be in the next updates. Is that true?

[craggy wagon]

depending on when tmod happens i feel like 2.2 could be the 1.4.5 port

[mighty geyser]

yes

[craggy wagon]

yeah big DoG is scrapped afaik. he'll still be resprited in that style when his update happens but it'll be the size he is now

[mighty geyser]

for a Number of reasons

[frigid matrix]

[blazing field]

Dog resprite was cscrapped, but as in

that specific resprite

there will be another eventually

[mighty geyser]

not least of which being that no one knows what the fuck to do with that thing

[blazing field]

and regardless, even if it wasn't

[twin bloom]

I think 2.2 will be sso

[blazing field]

it wasn't gonna come anytrime soon

Dog's resprite will likely only come with the proper final rework of the fight,

[craggy wagon]

2.2 will absolutely not be sso

[blazing field]

which requires th edistortion to exist

and that's gonna take a while - distortion is prob one of the biggest additions in terms of scope

subworld with its own biomes, enemies, resources, worldgen, etc

[frigid matrix]

As for Yarim, will I see him before the end of the world irl?

[blazing field]

unlike alot of other subworlds you see in mods (though there are other mods that already do similar things), the distortion is less of a samll area to fight a boss in

and more like a proper alternate woorld

think of the nether from minecraft

[craggy wagon]

i'd give Distortion at least another 4 years to even start happening

[blazing field]

Most likely not

Devs are massively burnt out on sso

its likely gonna go to the backlog

[twin bloom]

Ough

[tired adder]

speaking of portraits

[blazing field]

part of the reason brainstorm happened is so they could stop working on sso to actually figure out what they want to do

[tired adder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Terraria/comments/1qm44rl/studying_the_style_of_the_portraits_with_thorium/

[blazing field]

To cut it short,

[craggy wagon]

one day, you will! but you may be waiting a long time

[blazing field]

sso had very troubled development ever since its inception due to the messy organiztion of the team (Horse .)

However

after the Horse got killed

devs didn't really stop developing sso to reorgganize their plans and team structure, which would be the best decision

becasue, of, well, ironically

Sunken Cost Fallacy

development on sso had already been done, so they just needed to finish, yk the drill

utlimately after a bit of hell torture they notice yeah this wont work

[craggy wagon]

i hope the dev team does figure things out going forward and dev work becomes less ridiculous

[blazing field]

so they get brainstorm out so there is an ACTUAL major update so ppl dont have to wait 500 years

[swift light]

with the new update do skeletons no longer drop ancient bone dust?

[tired adder]

I love that this is just an alternate name for update

[blazing field]

which is really just all the miscellaneous changes they had already finished for sso, that weren't tied to the sunken sea

so no extra work was involved for the most part

just getting out what was already finished

And now that sunken sea is on hiatus (The stuff done for it wasn't scrapped, it's just on the backlog until they eventually decide to revisit SSO) and brainstorm got out

they're probably gonna, well. discuss their plans for the future and team structure and allt hat

now that the dev team is no longer under Horse

[frigid matrix]

Well I noticed some changes in the sunken sea

resprites and gen world

[blazing field]

yeah there were some minor changes left over from sso - Mostly resprites for tiles

alot of tiles for sunken sea overhaul are acutally ingame rn

[craggy wagon]

tbh i'd rather prefer Calamity does smaller updates (like brainstorm but smaller) a little more frequently rather than dropping gigantic, sweeping changes in one go like SSO was meant to be

[blazing field]

but can mostly just be obtained through shimmering

and don't generate naturally

alongside a few that are just unobtainable entirely

[craggy wagon]

new coral blocks?

[blazing field]

coral blocks r crates

most other blocks are shimmering

and pearl piles which were also a sunken sea thing which r just craftable with their respective pearls

[blazing field]

And in regards to this,

[craggy wagon]

i do like the new textures a lot! i might actually come up with something to build in sunken sea

[blazing field]

Yharim will liekly be one of the last major updates

Not the last

but one of em

Mainly because

currently, devs want to make the mod good and satisfactory to both themselves and the community before adding yharim

calamity unfortunately has a really bad case

of due to Bad Management (Horse) not having actually changed much meaningfully in years

[frigid matrix]

I think the developers will rebalance version 2.1 again around 2.1.5. After all a new version of classic Terraria has been released adding a lot of weapons for summoners and others. The game balance will have to be adjusted

[blazing field]

yes, resprites were made, stuff was added, specially weapons

but the mod's general quality stayed the same for a really long time

alof of content of the mod is stil vert reminiscent of the mquality of mods that were made years ago

uninteresting enemies, lackluster worldgen, and.... the bosses. no other words. just. them.

[blazing field]

summoner rebalance is planned

for alot of reasons

calamity "buffed" summoner to make it stronger before whips

but with whips being added,

that just ended up making summoner overtuned

summoner rebalance will basically dial down on summoner's strenght and revert those buffs calamity made

aswell as actually add calamity whips,

[frigid matrix]

What about the nerf of Calamitas????

[blazing field]

cuz if they added more whips rn that'd just make summoner MORE overtuned than it already is

Wdym?

[frigid matrix]

I already sent a photo of the arena in the final stage - how do you dodge those shells there?

[blazing field]

If you mean her fight is easier, that basically goes for every boss

calamity is trying to not be a super hard difficulty-focused bossrush mod anymore

[frigid matrix]

I'll try to find

[blazing field]

some critiques were made towards some stuff being a bit too easy, so changes are possible

but generally

dont expect the mod to be as hard as it was in the past, generally speaking

[unreal shuttle]

add back malice mode then

[daring sierra]

Isn't that why a lot of players play calamity though? There's a reason infernum is so popular

[blazing field]

the direction for the mod has changed to prioritize fun over difficulty

[unreal shuttle]

[craggy wagon]

thank god for that ngl. my true love with calamity is everything around the bosses, and i'm glad its becoming less focused on them

[frigid matrix]

look

[blazing field]

There are still addons and/or other mods that are focused on that difficulty

[daring sierra]

Fair

[frigid matrix]

That's what I mean - the arena is too small isn't it?

[blazing field]

And most importantly, it not only becomes more accessible for other players, but it also fgits the general vision for calamity now; Which is to add far more content and focus on way more things than just, a general centric focus on bosses

exploration content with structures, better worldgen and incentives to explore, more well-designed and interesting lore implementation, actually fun and well-desgined enemies so figthting enemies can also be interesting besides fighting bosses, more events, more fun little side content for thins like building or vanity, etc

\also just making the bosses themselves better of course cuz theyre

arguably, almost not arguably id say

some of the worst parts of the mod rn with few exceptions

[frigid matrix]

btw I noticed you fixed the bug with the Slime God.
Previously you could teleport to the ocean and the boss would disappear leaving a bag.

[blazing field]

And to answer. i don't really know how to help

I'm not very proeficient with boss fights or tips for calamity and that sort of thing

as

i'm not really much into that sort of thing

sorgy

[craggy wagon]

i'm so excited for more creatures like burrower getting added ❤️ i love that goofy thing

[dusk bronze]

[blazing field]

Yeah i love ambient/nonhostile creatures that aren't tiny and have cool interactions with the world

[frigid matrix]

The funny thing is this never happened before. Now during the final stages of the bullethell the arena becomes incredibly small about the size of one and a half of these huge circles.

[blazing field]

like i love bnuys dont get me wrong

im #1 bnuy fan my gf is a bnuy

[frigid matrix]

i... idk how i should dodge this shit

[blazing field]

but its laso cool to have bigger, more interactable stuff like b urrower

[fierce nebula]

Surely that’s a mistake

[rancid pagoda]

in before a mod reverts that fix as being anti-QoL

[blazing field]

i know throudon's ( goat....) stilt stroller could def be one of those

[cerulean elm]

So does reddit spaz out over every update or what

[cunning sequoia]

yeah pretty much

[dusk bronze]

yes

[cerulean elm]

Classic

[craggy wagon]

stilt stroller?

[dusk bronze]

critter contest winner

one of them

[craggy wagon]

ohhh

[blazing field]

one of the critter contest winners (specifically runner-up)

it will be added to the mod eventually

just like all the other winners

[fierce nebula]

This exact thing happened when the ankh shield components were announced to be made uncraftable in the changelogs a while ago

[blazing field]

and it's like

[craggy wagon]

idk if i ever saw any of those?

[blazing field]

a docile creature but a really big one

its like a big deer horse thing

hold on

let me find them

[dusk bronze]

giraffe sized

[frigid matrix]

[south lily]

lol

[craggy wagon]

my brain pictured something like the nuclear terror

[cerulean elm]

I mean you'll literally have all of them by accident through playing anyway, save for Medusa

[blazing field]

#424301622878011402 message

Here's the post with all the winners, aswell as links to runner ups

all of these dudes will be added to calamity eventually

[south lily]

well i'm happy that the desire is spreading

[fierce nebula]

Shimmer exists and it isn’t required for asgard

[wispy pawn]

That’s a restricted channel to me

[craggy wagon]

</3 you lied to me im reporting you /j

[cunning sequoia]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1456864497661644898/1465039222372040955/attachment.gif

[blazing field]

I've always been in support of it tbh :p

to be honest,

[rancid pagoda]

people are bandwagoning "QoL restoration" mods with all the balance changes as well like the Ankh Shield

[frigid matrix]

unknown

[blazing field]

i don't really care much about like. boss fights or difficulty in terraria

at all

[cunning sequoia]

you cant see it if you're not in calart

[blazing field]

like terraria is not a game i go to going. yes i will challenge myself with this

i just like building shit

[south lily]

some degree of difficulty is core to making things feel worthwhile and interesting, but that extends beyond bosses

[cerulean elm]

Wow I'm like, the complete opposite!

[south lily]

it is funny that it took like 10 years for anyone to seriously consider spending effort on normal enemies

[craggy wagon]

i wish terraria had some more lax elements other than building and mining

[blazing field]

No yeah difficulty is absolutely needed

[cerulean elm]

Sending npcs back to their cages as we speak

[south lily]

we are doing it very heavily in souls mod right now
making them good, not just hard or adding shit

[blazing field]

Regular enemies are, too easy in calamity rn

[frigid matrix]

let's try Fargo and Infernum

[blazing field]

they exist as nothing but fodder to Drop you Items

But even when i play vanilla

i just dont care about challenging myself much at all

most of my playthroughs are just like

doing random shit for fun

[exotic axle]

Jav let me add 10 billion critters to souls mod

[blazing field]

building fancy houses for npcs or

going out of my way to kill enemies speciifcaly to get their banner

[south lily]

i'm literally letting you add whatever you want bro i have full trust in you

[blazing field]

look you dont understand it fullfills a very swpecific desire of completionism in me

[exotic axle]

🤩

[craggy wagon]

i try to challenge myself but i have too much muscle memory so im not really challenged by things like eternity/infern these days

[blazing field]

i like collecting banners

its fun

[craggy wagon]

now i am a builder

[blazing field]

to me its less that i cant be challenged and just muc hthat i suppose

[keen zodiac]

malice brimstone elemental wasnt really hard

[cerulean elm]

I was a big advocate for alchemistnpc ages ago but I sort of like setting up farms and fishing now

[blazing field]

terraria combat has yet to really be that interesting to me most of the time?

[cunning sequoia]

zara. zara you need to add big e

[blazing field]

theres exceptions though

[craggy wagon]

I LOOOOVE BESTIARY COMPLETION!!!! sometimes

[cunning sequoia]

big e critter

[south lily]

the main difficulty is the movement creep after prehardmode, making it very easy to circumvent enemies
which will be very interesting to deal with, there's some options

[exotic axle]

I DID

[blazing field]

ive seen some modded bosses that i actually enjoyed the challenge of

[cunning sequoia]

DO IT AGAIN

[exotic axle]

I made little E!!!

[cunning sequoia]

MORE

[blazing field]

and also empress of light and duke fishron are admittedly very fun bosses

[cunning sequoia]

!!

[exotic axle]

MOREEEE

[cerulean elm]

Isn't it just death mode with stat bloat

[south lily]

have you only played basecal

[blazing field]

i think terraria's rather simplistic combat means that it relies alot on the enemies themselves to be fun

[blazing field]

nah

ivge played other mods

terraria combat just really isn't much of my thing most of the time

I don't even play calamity much to be honest

most of my terraria playtime is in vanilla

[south lily]

well regardless i hope that souls 2.0 will show that there is a lot of space to explore in enemy design, we are doing quite a lot of new stuff

[blazing field]

Yeah there absolutely can be

[cerulean elm]

Do people still do those uh, adventure maps

[open night]

terraria combat would be better if they made every boss shout quips at you. Ideally related to the name of the boss

[blazing field]

Again i think fun terraria combat really relies alot on enemy design tbh

[craggy wagon]

most of mine these days is modded 💔 im a little too used to cal's naked dash to go back

[cunning sequoia]

I gotta give fargo's another shot

[blazing field]

Cuz the player themselves are just

very simple in their combat

[exotic axle]

Fargoated

[blazing field]

sir nautilus 🩷

[south lily]

indeed

[south lily]

do it when 2.0 releases

[cunning sequoia]

2.0 tomorrow...

[south lily]

it's our "fixing up the mod with the modern dev team" update

[grave rock]

Oh I agree
But the majority of enemy design isnt very
Compelling :(

[steep path]

Fighting yharon and at half health he yells "Alright, I've been dragon this on for too long!"

[craggy wagon]

oh i love sir nautilus

[wispy pawn]

Can I ask a question here cause the help chat isn’t helping and it’s a pretty important question?

[grave rock]

I actually think prehm goblin army is one of the more interesting fights in the game

[blazing field]

Vanilla enemy design is frankly pretty bland, even for some bosses id say

I think a good few mods do combat better than vanilla itself

[opaque orbit]

Every enemy should fire meowmere projectiles

[dusk bronze]

no

[cerulean elm]

More like a suicide run for 5 mins lol

[grave rock]

Likely cuz u take the event on with more limited gear n mobility

[open night]

(calamity) "Play our awesome bossfights and progress!"
(starlight river) "Yeah player, don't you like wrll made art?"
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
"SPEND 100 HOURS CRAFTING MY SHIT"
"Yes Fargos."

[steep path]

It definitely challenges you to cover a lot of your bases with a limited toolkit - like learning how to deal with the rangers and mages is a big task

[south lily]

sigh

[blazing field]

this message melted my sspine

[obtuse hawk]

was the sunken sea top part not having music fixed in the patch

[open night]

so what i'm cringe deal with it

[cunning sequoia]

this fargo's my souls

[blazing field]

my spine is gone

help

[hushed hazel]

get a new one

[pine moat]

what's the accessory above star-tainted generator and below community? some summoner with stellar torus just took down DOG's hp to 50% in an instant

[steep path]

You're too fargone

[grave rock]

Not dying to the goblin army is honestly not hard as long as ur like even slightly prepared for it which you SHOULD be

[south lily]

i really hope that souls 2.0 manages to break that fucking annoying reputation

putting all of our energy into it

[pine moat]

when i also used stellar torus but it didn't kill him as fast

[opaque orbit]

What ones star tainted generator

[wispy pawn]

Okay well ima ask my very important question. I made a world with my friend a few days ago. Yesterday we got off for a bit and then once we tried to load it back up it just said “error” nothing else. So we gave it a bit and now nothing happens. You click the play button and just nothing, any help would be greatly appreciated

[cunning sequoia]

prepare for people saying that it "ruined what people liked about fargo's"

[pine moat]

star tainted generator is the acessory above the community

[south lily]

oh we know

[cerulean elm]

I'm just a man with an anglet and an umbrella 🥀

[south lily]

but, there are options for this

[grave rock]

Mfs will see an incoming goblin army and not Even set up a trench

[dusk bronze]

phantomic artifact

[pine moat]

ty

[south lily]

we are taking that angle into account aswell

[pine moat]

oh its the upgrade to hallowed rune XD

[grave rock]

You at minimum have like a Musket / Undertaker right??? Unless u went out of ur way for a war banner with shit gear

U need to break a shadow orb for the garmy

[opaque orbit]

I'm taking them on not hiding like a coward

Me and my wand of sparking

[cerulean elm]

An exaggeration but goblin army is just not interesting at all imo

[grave rock]

Oh I dont mean hiding but a trench is all u need to not get spawnkilled

[blazing field]

im broke the spine store is too expensive these days

[hushed hazel]

steal one

[cerulean elm]

All of those types of events are the worst part for me

[opaque orbit]

It's not that hard just get a hook or cloud in a bottle and you can jump over

[steep path]

Only thing I don't like about goblin is that there's no way to prevent it from spawning once you've done it once. Oh Abominationn why can't you exist in my vanilla world 💔

[opaque orbit]

If you're getting spawn camped 80 times by goblins that's a tad bit of a skill issue

[cerulean elm]

You have iframe immunity on spawn it's not possible anyway

It's just boring

I'd rather look for a lava charm

[blazing field]

I think pre hm goblin is one of the better events because it happens at a point you're relatively weak so the goblins are actually a threat and the enemy roster is much more balanced than alot of other events that rely almost entirely on just, enemy spam, often with alot of enemies with overlapping niches

like

warriors, mages, archers and thieves all follow fairly distinct niches that each pose their own threat in the event

even if they're still like

really simple enemies

[opaque orbit]

I get that but I feel the pirates are the same functionally but better

[steep path]

A lot of later events are just "tiny fast projectile you can barely see go" and it's annoying

[south lily]

we're giving the goblin sword guys cool swing animations and stuff in 2.0

[blazing field]

the way the event is structured means that even if they're simple, each individual enemy type atleast sticks out as distinct

[south lily]

it's gon be fun

[cerulean elm]

Mobs with charged swings would be cool

[grave rock]

Ive seen it happen not too uncommonly that players respawn inside their base w goblins coming in all directions and struggling mainly with getting out

[blazing field]

then we get frost moon that has like 4 different enemies that all are basically the same thing

[south lily]

yea, we're giving skeletons bone swords too

[blazing field]

nutcrackers, krampus, yetis. i guess that's three. woaow.

[opaque orbit]

They don't know all you have to do is let the doors break then run in one direction

[fathom girder]

Give slimes a sword

[south lily]

removing their passive contact damage and making them rely more on telegraphed big swings lets you play a lot more interestingly around them

[blazing field]

they're like the same big tanky enemy but with slight stat differences and nutcrackers have, negligibly different behavior

[cerulean elm]

Good point, pumpkin moon and frost moon should get nuked too

[grave rock]

I disagree that pirates > goblins just due to the difference in gear youll have by then makes goblins more compelling IMO

[blazing field]

i didn't say to nuke them i said i think they're

kinnda lame

and the enemy design/roster is pretty bleh

[opaque orbit]

I play mage fighting 40 goblins with bows with a wand and a few staffs with eh piercing just isn't that fun

[steep path]

Every part that isn't the bosses just feels like filler

[opaque orbit]

And neither is trenching

[blazing field]

yeah basically

[grave rock]

The enemy roster for both is rly sad

[cerulean elm]

Epic event guys, zerg pot and hold left click!

[blazing field]

specially with how strong your gear is at that point

[blazing field]

zerg pot dosent exist

[cerulean elm]

[fathom girder]

I love that I can fight calclone before mechs and just. have this before any boss in hm

[cerulean elm]

2.1.2 patch?

[blazing field]

this is vanilla game design

zerg potions dont exist

wake up

[dusk bronze]

you can have it preboss

or post 1 boss

[cerulean elm]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[fathom girder]

preboss cuz it's just hellstone and lenses huh

clever

[cerulean elm]

It's over chat

[steep path]

Soon enough everyone will have it prehardmode

(I think idk if they're still doing that)

((Also probably not "soon" enough))

[fathom girder]

I'm sure rogue could do it

[candid flax]

wth is this

[opaque orbit]

John wormboss

[dusk bronze]

yhorm

[hushed hazel]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[dusk bronze]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[candid flax]

Why is it half the size😭

[unreal shuttle]

can we have furnitures for pyre mantle/molten pyre mantle so i dont have to compromise with using abyssal/void furnitures and dying them orange?

[opaque orbit]

Because it's John wormboss

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cute-fall-flop-sped-up-gif-12865435725713811541

[unreal shuttle]

please?

we have thermal torches i dont see why we cant have thermal furniture

[dusk bronze]

#suggestions-posting (read the doc first though)

[unreal shuttle]

oh right

[solemn crest]

Thermiture

[dusk bronze]

[hasty hawk]

no cuz of spriter hell (they are too busy making fish)

[unreal shuttle]

fih

[polar tide]

falsenuke

[solemn crest]

Fih:)

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🫧 🫧 🐠

[dusk bronze]

fish production has been halted until further notice

[hasty hawk]

Also wtf is about 2.2 not being SSO wtf happened?

[dusk bronze]

hell burnout

[urban cloak]

plans changed after your departure

[polar tide]

sso will still happen eventually but its been 3 years everyone needs a break

there are still big fat juicy content updates in the works

[blazing field]

i feel like that could be accomplished with scoria furniture instead

[unreal shuttle]

yeah same thing basically

scorio furniture doesnt exist tho

[hasty hawk]

A lot changed after I left, I've been told. From what I've known mostly everything was going well and then I wake up to dev purging, devs arguing in here and more devs quiting.

[wind niche]

whats v2.2?

[blazing field]

yeah i ki just think itd make ore sense over pyre mantle furniture

[polar tide]

? lol

[hasty hawk]

Originally SSO, now likely to be something else apparently

[dusk bronze]

the next major update after brainstorm

[blazing field]

Devs r taking a break from sso to figure out wtf to do

sunke cost overhaul

i explained it earlier

[unique warren]

Wait, you can use forbidden oathblade gimmick early if you use Bladecrest and Old Lord's????

[cerulean elm]

2.2 will be brainfreeze with cryo rework

[dusk bronze]

sunken sea fallacy

[blazing field]

ur a ex-dev so u probably r already aware of some of this stuff

but jic

[unique warren]

It's so peak,,,

[hasty hawk]

Its sad how this has become a common and recurring joke

[cerulean elm]

Sunken cost fallacy

[dusk bronze]

synergy!!!! 🎉

[blazing field]

It's p mcuh true unfortunately

even devs call it that atp

[hasty hawk]

I was either kept in the dark about a lot of things, too busy with my masters degree to deal with or changed after I left the team

[blazing field]

#calamity-update-talk message

here it is

[blazing field]

Wdym by dev purging?

[dusk bronze]

inactive devs recently had their roles removed

[polar tide]

he is probably referring to the inactive dev cull

[blazing field]

ohhh wait that yeah

[dusk bronze]

not really a big deal imo

[blazing field]

basically just inactive devs that werent rly doing anything and had aleready basically retired lost their dev role

[hasty hawk]

Altho many made sense, some also surprised me too

[blazing field]

merkalto... 🥀

[polar tide]

Which. I would really appreciate if you didn't use language like """dev purge""" for something as mundane as that

[blazing field]

my glorious king

[dusk bronze]

he's still in dev server dw

[blazing field]

give him the merkalto role. he needs it now more than ever

[cerulean shoal]

Is horse another term for the pink menace that we got rid of? I'm just confused

[polar tide]

yes

[blazing field]

oh yeah that's the Horse

[cerulean shoal]

Ah

[tropic jolt]

evil role becsuse merkalto is EVIL

[unique warren]

Evil and intimidating

[blazing field]

no reason in partricular to call him that. its just funny.

[solemn crest]

Pink menace?

[rotund venture]

I saw on the subreddit that Cei left is that true?

[hasty hawk]

yep, culling is a more appropiate word for this, my bad

[dusk bronze]

yes

[hasty hawk]

its on the changelogs of the hotfix too

[blazing field]

yeah, she retired very recently

[true oriole]

Fabulous Solgryn

[polar tide]

yes she was already on break and very stressed

[blazing field]

mostly just personal issues

[rotund venture]

damn she was cooking up some great lore, shame

[solemn crest]

Ahh I figured that was that

[unique warren]

Good luck to her

[blazing field]

she unfortunately is now a calamity fan

which means she now cant read anymore

truly tragic

[tropic jolt]

[dusk bronze]

💔

[polar tide]

our remaining writers are still very talented luckily

[cedar coral]

reworked exorcism reminds me of that one "i absolve you of your sins" meme, the weapon is hilarious

[blazing field]

knowing the situation, yeah it was the best decision ultimately, it will take a while to get used to though

my entire time ive been here there was the Lore Trio of Cei, Laura and Stip (Cei and Laura count as more than one but. yk wim)

having it be the Lore Duo instead will be

hard to get used to

cei's still bestie though

[dusk bronze]

make triangle an actual writer trust

[wind niche]

anyone mind helping in #help-advice-read-pins

[blazing field]

the thing is that alot of other devs also help with writing

triangle, ozzatron

[grave rock]

Ozzalore

[fathom girder]

Loratron

[blazing field]

and knowing alex i bet my ass hes gonna autism over in the caldev writing channel eventually if he hasn't already

[balmy saddle]

why is fabsol pink menace? as i far i know he was a dev then for some reason happed fabsortion and everyone talks about him negatively

[blazing field]

@polar tide i know what you are

[rotund venture]

oh of course I didn't mean to imply they aren't, English not first language and hard to convey tone on chat, sry

[unique warren]

How much of it is storywriting and how much is actual like, writing in-game dialogue and the sort

[blazing field]

but its that those three were like

THE writers

[polar tide]

the writers themselves consider anyone who What

You know what i am..?

[unique warren]

Not to say one is more important

[hasty hawk]

I have yet to try many of the new rogue stuff I wasnt involved with, I was too busy dealing with ranger (enchants, one being fully revealed and the other being done codewise) or irl stuff before I left. Its a shame i didnt get to finish whatever I had planed for Nanotech but shit happens; it is what it is.

[blazing field]

they were explicitly lore writers and that was like ther whole job

and they talked in lore chat the most

they were the Lore People even if other people were also People who did Lore. does that

does that make sense.

[unique warren]

Ya

[polar tide]

oh i didnt see this. you are correct lol

[blazing field]

I think its pretty much both

[unique warren]

Nice

[distant agate]

anyone else had DoG just not despawn after they die?

[blazing field]

Not sure if there really is a tendency for one over the other, i suppose it depends on whatever the next update is

[distant agate]

i keep getting 2nd attempts lol

[blazing field]

storywriting gets made all the time

[polar tide]

but yeah lore writers consider anyone who helps out and contributes to the writing to be writers as well. theyre just the guys who actually have the writer role

[blazing field]

while specific dialogue and stuff is made for whatever is needed for the next update usually

as far as i know

[unique warren]

Sounds about right

Is there a lore reason for why Signus is so pretty now

[blazing field]

hes fucking awesome thats why

[unique warren]

Sweet thanks

[hasty hawk]

Ozz ofc has to be involved given that he's Cal CEO, however Triangle is a surprise

[blazing field]

Triangle does writing too

pretty often from what i know

hes the guy whos behind alot of the dogma god/war god lore aswell aso ld dukelore

he's good at it

[hasty hawk]

Unless the "Cal Politics" (ikyk) thing get resolved then it wouldnt surprise me.

[dusk bronze]

he made basically all the lore for god of dogma and war iirc

[unique warren]

Shadow nugget into spooky twink is top 10 glowups ever

[hasty hawk]

i forgor about dukelore

[fierce nebula]

Signus is an evil twink now?

[cobalt wharf]

they made fishbone boomerang good

[dusk bronze]

have you guys read the scion's curio dialogue

[blazing field]

signus's design is great because its like

awlays been the same basically

like yeah it got changes

[main estuary]

same thing with yharon
fat chicken nugget into cool ass bird

[blazing field]

but most of those changes are just likwe

making whats already there better executed

unlike many other bosses he never really got a like

[unique warren]

It's the same design just making it look good lmfao

[blazing field]

full redesign

[unique warren]

Except sword arm ig

[blazing field]

yeah 😭 😭

[hasty hawk]

Yep, that is a good one, Im proud of Sunny

[blazing field]

thats why hes my goat i love signus

hes literally reverse devourer of gods

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tiktok-ai-stare-kitty-gif-7100427414218931166

kitty

[blazing field]

0 aura loser who boasts and wants everyone to know how cool and awesome he is

vs

[rotund venture]

huge lore reveal Signus spits out gods

[blazing field]

hype moments and aura ghoul that isnt really arrogant or prtentious and instead quietly plans stuff in his little corner

[pseudo vector]

pretty sure signus is able to morph his arm into whatever judging by the fact he can make the giant fucking sword hand

[dusk bronze]

sword scrapped

[cerulean shoal]

I lowkey give up on trying to get my issue fixed, will probably just dragonlens a bunch of acid wood lol

[polar tide]

im able to morph your face into whatever

[unique warren]

Work for Noxus and do distortion things ❌
Go fuck with some gay ninja ✅

[hasty hawk]

Oh that is being kept, epic. Altho sprite hell :(

[plucky vigil]

Is there a way to view what was bug fixed in this patch? I would like to know if summons sudden despawn has been fixed

[unique warren]

Please note that I mean mess with when saying fuck with

[hasty hawk]

read changelogs on the wiki

[pseudo vector]

[polar tide]

okay

[dusk bronze]

"with" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting there

[blazing field]

signus is also a really interesting character because hes like. hes not a good guy. but hes also not a evill guy. hes a morally questionable guy who can be either damaging or beneficial depending on the context but also generally has his own motives for doing things

[brazen vale]

go back to gd

[pseudo vector]

bro?

what did i do bruh

[polar tide]

rude ass

[fierce nebula]

Gd 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[plucky vigil]

Thanks, forgot about it

[blazing field]

go back to outside

[polar tide]

DONT TALK TO CDMUSIC LIKE THAT!!!!! ONLY IM ALLOWED TO BULLY HIM FOR NO REASON!!!!

[blazing field]

sorry i let the demons out

[brazen vale]

gd lowk unplayable since geode is down

[pseudo vector]

i’m making do with what i have

[fierce nebula]

😈

[analog cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-confused-jimmy-butler-confused-eye-squint-gif-12144635464811342257

[fierce nebula]

Geode? Trove reference??

[analog cedar]

a

no gif perms

[brazen vale]

trove has been dead for along long time

[fierce nebula]

It’s very alive there’s like the same 10 active people playing every day it’s very alive trust me please

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-flying-floating-gif-17453629

[blazing field]

you uys think signus stops to smoke weed with xeroc while he's out in the distortion sometimes

[pseudo vector]

no wait come back patrick no

[blazing field]

do you guys think theyre weed buddies

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/heonism-for-the-love-of-god-please-please-gif-24062262

[polar tide]

when you truly love something you learn to let it go

[analog cedar]

does the wiki have a section for rework weapons

or they just put it all in one

[polar tide]

check pins

[blazing field]

if you mean brainstorm

[teal bone]

you heard them.

[blazing field]

changelogs page

[pseudo vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674691299227467785/1304931922652303381/obraz_2024-11-09_231317824.gif

[teal bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274513828419473451/1309684982557442068/2023-09-24_190311.gif

[blazing field]

old duke 2012

[hasty hawk]

i've geniunely never seen devs be this unhinged in public

[polar tide]

hello

[hushed mountain]

insane

[pseudo vector]

we’re a very serious dev team

[blazing field]

ive seen it

happens often

[hasty hawk]

usually it was just me at times

[pseudo vector]

we take our jobs very seriously

[hasty hawk]

I was replaced

[hushed mountain]

they learned from the best…

[trim moat]

were you not around for my godawful amidias edit

[polar tide]

there is not a force on this earth that could make me act regular in cal update talk

[analog cedar]

25 millions words holy shit

[velvet tusk]

what did the patch update change

[hasty hawk]

THAT WAS YOU!?

[fathom girder]

yay I finally got him

[blazing field]

everytime you think calamity devs are normal

remember

cosmatic mango

[polar tide]

LOL????

[blazing field]

have you not seen the shit he does in streams bruh

[dusky perch]

alr

[velvet tusk]

how do calamity devs even become calamity devs

[polar tide]

ok true

[unique warren]

What game is this

[blazing field]

abduction

[fathom girder]

Every time I think they're normal, scion's curio taps my shoulder and reminds me it hasn't played undertale

[blazing field]

join my crew

[blazing field]

old duke yapping

[dusky perch]

hello charlotte

[blazing field]

my favorite

[velvet tusk]

your crew???

[tribal isle]

i thought it also mined ores

😭

[fathom girder]

no it just highlights stuff for ya

it's great

[velvet tusk]

its peak

[unique warren]

What is it tho

[fierce nebula]

Burrower 🎉

🫧 🐠

[fathom girder]

Like it flies around, and if it sees ores it'll do the thing burrowers do

[unique warren]

omg hi fih...

[fathom girder]

and you can really easily tell what the ore is

it's awesome

[cobalt wharf]

nepotism ithink

[tribal isle]

just become one

[solemn crest]

It comes to them in a dream

[pseudo vector]

you have to

to

[blazing field]

ok so imagine this is ozzatron and/or some other developer

[velvet tusk]

you are the reason of this i will never forgive you

[blazing field]

this is how you join calamity dev

[vocal pagoda]

Why did shield dash frames get nerfed

[blazing field]

they go to your dms and abduct you

[dusk bronze]

[blazing field]

"join my crew" t hey say

[polar tide]

IM A FUCKINF CONCEPT ARTIST

[velvet tusk]

oh thats crazy

[pseudo vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/776208760175329300/1460243610388795402/IMG_6361.gif

[velvet tusk]

you have a developer role, its your fault anyways

[unique warren]

Wait so is Bladecrest and Old Lord combo higher DPS than using them both individually

[hushed mountain]

💀

[pseudo vector]

yes

[vocal pagoda]

Every 4 years I get reminded hello Charlotte exists

[polar tide]

ok true. cant argue with that

[solemn crest]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[dusky perch]

hats off 2 whoever added this item

[blazing field]

i had a dream i joined caldev

as "emotional" support once

to clarify,

[blazing field]

caldev was a physical place/building in this dream

like a office type deal

[hasty hawk]

Suddenly one day... I got a random dm saying "Heyo, do you have 15ish minutes?"

Then I was a cal dev for 3-4 years

[dusk bronze]

calamity hq

[blazing field]

by emotional support i mean whenever devs were stressed, burnt out or upset

theyd go up to me, in my designated emotional support location

and just

[polar tide]

in the weeks leading up to me joining caldev i had dreams about getting on caldev so often it felt like being spiritually tortured

[blazing field]

start throwing tomatoes at me and going "go white girl go"

theyd keep doing this until they eventually felt better

and went back to working

[solemn crest]

Here’s my application to becoming a dev
int main()
game = good;
bugs = none;
cheaters = banned;

[velvet tusk]

damn thats cool

[polar tide]

will speak to ozz about this.

[dusty tinsel]

Throw potatoes

[velvet tusk]

difficulties += "very hard"

[pseudo vector]

i remember offering my services to the team back in october 2020

i didn’t get official dev position until january 2021

[polar tide]

bro offered his services

[hasty hawk]

smth similar happened to me tbh

[hushed mountain]

offered his particular set of skills….

[solemn crest]

meme items = funny

[urban cloak]

sunny deadass did this to me

[velvet tusk]

it has different meanings

[pseudo vector]

[hasty hawk]

and I deadass did this to Sunny

[polar tide]

faster.

[urban cloak]

chain reaction

[velvet tusk]

lwk i had to view calamity's source code to understand dog's patterns

[pseudo vector]

i don’t have a faster gif

[velvet tusk]

imma try again, i understand it now

[polar tide]

fuckkk

[solemn crest]

Ok lowkey like what language is terraria written in?

[polar tide]

english

[velvet tusk]

prolly C#

[solemn crest]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[polar tide]

:)

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[tropic jolt]

arabic

[polar tide]

Youre welcome.

[hasty hawk]

C#

[tribal isle]

dude why would you remove the staff of regrowth recipe i will never forgive you 😭

[rotund venture]

has there been a Big Dev Meeting tm for what's next and team structure and stuff now that pink horse has been gone for a while?

[dusk bronze]

emergency meeting when

[polar tide]

yeah

[fierce nebula]

Oh no!!!!!!!

[dusk bronze]

yippee

[polar tide]

this is how jesus felt

[hasty tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/amongus-amongsdp-black-emergency-meeting-black-emergency-meeting-gif-18720662

[muted egret]

WE'RE SO BACK

[distant raft]

grrrrrrr why devs remove recipe for

uhhhhh

hold on

[fierce nebula]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[vocal pagoda]

What was the point of removing the recipe from the items used for the ankh

[blazing field]

yeah calamity is good now

[dusk bronze]

@polar tide why would you do this

[fierce nebula]

Because ankh isn’t in asgard’s anymore

[distant raft]

there was arecipe for black lens?

[rotund venture]

to make people play Terraria

[polar tide]

i hate you all and i want you to suffer

[blazing field]

Incentivizes the player to actually engage with aspects of the game

[fierce nebula]

@fierce nebula why would you do this

[hasty hawk]

the only recipes I miss are Ankh shield stuff, rest I dont give a fuck
(and the Anhk shield components got buffed droprates)

[vocal pagoda]

Okay but crafting shit is fun? Sometimes I just wanna craft stuff

[blazing field]

And specially wiht how calamity makes it way easier to grind enemies anyways

[tribal isle]

dude the dog rework is fucking sick i love you

[blazing field]

It's already way easier

[unique warren]

Fargo's Mutant Mod

Or any other qol mod

[blazing field]

There's alot of other things you can craft already

[fierce nebula]

Calamity qol revived

[muted egret]

yeah dog is so easy now

[polar tide]

Wow thanks. Tahnk you for enjoying My Mod

[velvet tusk]

okay atp its canon

[muted egret]

but it is awesome

[unique warren]

EXCUSE ME

[hasty hawk]

The year is 2024...

[blazing field]

carnymassacre please remove the grungler

please

[vocal pagoda]

Okay then remove ankh, its bloating the item pool and will never be used by anyone now

[blazing field]

he scares me

[fierce nebula]

Thank you for enjoying the calamity mod by Zachb0t!

[blazing field]

please remove him from the mod

[blazing field]

It's still got uses ?

[polar tide]

fuck no the grungler is one of my best friends

[unique warren]

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN??

[hasty hawk]

[fierce nebula]

It’s a fucking vanilla item

[blazing field]

It not being meta =/ being useless

[pine moat]

carnymassacre please

[blazing field]

also yeah its a vanilla item 😭

[rotund venture]

she has a little something on her face

[tribal isle]

just mine
and craft

[polar tide]

@pseudo vector youre the best grungler in the world bruh

[blazing field]

Plus a possibility of a post ml upgrade has been discussed, thought it would generally fit the same niche that the ankh line is meant to have

[atomic karma]

any big news from this last update?

[vestal osprey]

Has this mod ever removed a vanilla item?

[blazing field]

which is that of a defensive item

[distant raft]

clearly if it isnt triple s plus tier then its abysmal dogshit and the devs dont know how to balance

[hasty hawk]

Actually can someone get the funny 2024 prophecy image, i aint on Infernum Discord anymore for about a year now

[distant raft]

star beam rye died

[tribal isle]

but it is highkenuinely useless by the time you craft it

[vocal pagoda]

Nah not really, why use ankh when you can use an extra regen acessory or a damage accessory

[blazing field]

You can craft it basically at any point in hardmode

[mystic eagle]

Corinth Prime too and Hellborn has been booted from SS Tier after 3 years

[hasty hawk]

nvm Lucille also posted the quote here

[blazing field]

Because it gives you immunity to debuffs

thats why

👍

[fierce nebula]

Hope this helps!

[tribal isle]

but i thought hellborn's thing was being overpowered

[fierce nebula]

I’m gonna hold your hand when I say this…

[grave rock]

You use Ankh when exploring

[mystic eagle]

It still kinda is for a few bosses if you know how to use it

[vocal pagoda]

Most regen items counter debuffs anyway

[grave rock]

It also helps a lot vs Duke Fishron

[rancid pagoda]

you stop going into the caverns entirely? doubt it

[blazing field]

An item having a niche that is not universally the best choice does not equate to the item being useless

[dusk bronze]

what about polterghast

[muted egret]

AnaLev is crazy

[blazing field]

🙂‍↕️

[polar tide]

fuck the ankh shield i am using 15 menacing mage emblems

[hasty hawk]

huh it fell from grace

[polar tide]

SIX. I MEANT SIX

[unique warren]

A tier is still very good tho

[blazing field]

great message btw

[grave rock]

People seriously underestimate how much of an asset Feral Bite immunity is

[vocal pagoda]

I don't know what was going on two years ago but this sounds like cope, I've never seen anybody use more than fargo's and sometimes alchemist lite

[dusk bronze]

[hasty hawk]

also why did they had to completely butcher Slick Cane (stealth), I knew they nerfed it but i didnt think the weapon was gonna be butchered. Spam is still busted af

[halcyon seal]

I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe

[dusk bronze]

luiafk would like to have a word with you

[polar tide]

my fault sorry

[grave rock]

Wasnt Cane stupid god tier

[vocal pagoda]

Also why did a bunch of true melee weapons get removed

[hasty hawk]

Ik who did it and it wasnt you

[dusk bronze]

26 second wof

[urban cloak]

2024 pinned

crazy

[polar tide]

i am responsible for every single change in brainstorm

[hushed mountain]

Oh really now.

[mystic eagle]

Yeah it was top 5 territory but now it's Middle of A Tier, Stealth isn't worth it anymore though even with 1 plat

[hushed mountain]

Was it you who put sundial with cosmolight….

[hasty hawk]

yes I went "this is mad funny" and then forgot I added/removed an extra 0

[urban cloak]

its true! (they were added to the team after the update went live)

[polar tide]

Yes. All my doing

[grave rock]

You deserve an award tbh

[blazing field]

Guys it's from 2026

[hushed mountain]

[blazing field]

the message literally a few days ago

😭

[grave rock]

And 900 dollars of compensation

[hasty hawk]

The og message was from 2021 in Infernum server

[urban cloak]

i know im just calling it "2024" cause thats the main focus of the copypasta

[hasty hawk]

or was it Infernum Dev...

[polar tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437006307510190090/1458696910134317096/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_1.gif

[grave rock]

For people crashing tf out

[blazing field]

ah lol

didnt know it was a copypasta

but to be fair

it's more appropriate now than ever

[hasty hawk]

And then the mod that made the prophecy real came out in 2023 lmao

[onyx valve]

Am I the only one who doesn't really care about the QoL changes and only cares about the weapon and accessory reworks which those are awesome?

[mild dew]

I’ve seen so many people complaining about the QoL changes but honestly I haven’t even noticed a thing on my playthrough

[rotund venture]

should copy paste it on the reddit just to see what happens

[halcyon seal]

YOU SON OF A BITCH YOU BUFFED THE CACTUS PICKAXE POWER TO 35%

IM GONNA FUCKING KILL YOU

[blazing field]

kill 7 billion qol changes

[onyx valve]

Because I mostly care about stuff being remade to look like absolute bangers (like Starmada which is now perfect)

[polar tide]

G-g-g-gulp!

[hasty hawk]

Either 1k upvotes and reddit silver or -600 downvotes

[unique warren]

Kill 7 billion redditors

[halcyon seal]

w..what…?

[vocal pagoda]

The only reworks I care about are the boss reworks and the shimmer shrine, everything else either felt like it didn't matter or was just confusing

[fierce nebula]

Well memed!

[vocal pagoda]

Nuke the calamity sub reddit

[fierce nebula]

This deserves a reddit platinum

[polar tide]

i... is this real...?

[unique warren]

I need to sit down,,,

[urban cloak]

carny you'll take the backlash when we make supreme helper minion mandatory for progression right?

😊

[polar tide]

always bro

[obtuse hawk]

fear

[urban cloak]

a real one right here

[grave rock]

Dogshit take

[rotund venture]

weapon reworks are extremely cool tho

[fathom girder]

supreme helper minion is now required so that bosses actually think you're something worth fighting when summoned

[halcyon seal]

FACT: Calamity Devs Said They “Kick Puppies And Eat Human Flesh Three Times A Day” In Response To QoL Changes

[blazing field]

At this point just embrace it

[dusk bronze]

[vocal pagoda]

The removal of hells sun was a crime

[blazing field]

next time someone complains about qol in a abrasively toxic way just say that shit

[fierce nebula]

No

[blazing field]

yes. we removed qol because we fucking hate our fans we want their gameplay to be miserable. we hate everything and eat puppies for breakfast

[distant raft]

ive genuinely never heard of anyone using hell's sun

[vocal pagoda]

I like yo yo's I want more yo yo's in the game

[unique warren]

Fabsolgpt, generate me a qolslop mod that all redditors will be proud of!

[fathom girder]

permission to be abrasively toxic to people who complain about qol nerfs

[fierce nebula]

REMOVE ALL YOYOS

[unique warren]

Kill 7 billion yo-yos

[hasty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-terraria-calamity-inactive-balls-tadbiscuit-terraria-moment-gif-18027223322409907812

[mild dew]

Add 50 more flare guns

[final pine]

plunder 7 billion sailors

[white aurora]

pet 7 billion cats

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🐈

[hasty hawk]

man the Cal devs hate fun gif is actually gone from Tenor now

[vocal pagoda]

Like I'm not particularly upset about qol removal, moreso confused about some things and indifferent towards others, the only thing that upset me was the removal of some true melee weapons

[dusk bronze]

go play mod of redemption so 0.8 will release

[blazing field]

i think the reason hell's sun got removed is that not every boss needs to drop a weapon for every subclass ever \and ive never used hell's sun but i assume it was seem as a relatively uninteresting weapon

[fathom girder]

True melee's in a decent spot rn

[dusk bronze]

they removed like
2

[rotund venture]

play Fables please

[dusk bronze]

and made so many way better

[unique warren]

And also because spiky ball is just so fuckin niche

[hasty hawk]

Was planning to try it out when I can

[unique warren]

But also totally possible to do a full run with!

[vocal pagoda]

I'm a yo yo fan I genuinely have fucking nothing bro

[blazing field]

Having less weapons also makes it so subclass challenge playthroughs are actually more interesting imo

[bright steeple]

Do you have to kill the drill worm thing to get the pet?

[rotund venture]

Tmelee has Hellkite what more do you need?

[hasty hawk]

Chicken army, finger licking good.

[blazing field]

Subclasses are, as the name implies

subclasses

[hasty hawk]

(also planned)

[cobalt wharf]

you bet your soul on hells sun?

[blazing field]

they shouldn't and wouldn't get the same amount of content as proper classes

[vocal pagoda]

I'm a law student i don't have a soul

[blazing field]

thus is why subclass playthroughs are generally "challenge runs", theres "gaps" in the progression

[pulsar cobalt]

spiky balls were like barely a subclass

[blazing field]

which make it harder

[halcyon seal]

Aren’t there plans to remove tmelee damage as a whole

[pulsar cobalt]

over half of them didnt have gravity

the

[blazing field]

and also make it so you have to go out of your way to do certain things you often wouldn't need to get stronger

[cobalt wharf]

i’ve had to use hells sun and most other spiky balls extensively

they felt terrible to use

[pulsar cobalt]

main defining feature of the original spiky ball item

[hasty hawk]

The reason nearly every spikeball was removed was cuz ~~ they were balance monsters~~ I FUCKING HATE EM

[pulsar cobalt]

[cobalt wharf]

the best feeling ones were the ones that weren’t even spiky balls at all

most of which were kept anyways

[cunning sequoia]

wdym? sky stabber was a perfectly reasonable item

:3

[chrome talon]

anyone playing with catalyst mod?

[dull heart]

Stratus Sphere is back itll be fine

[hasty hawk]

yep, God's Paranoia is going to be reworked into a dagger

[keen zodiac]

i think this will be useful VS legendary plantera

[vocal pagoda]

The amalgamated brain changes frustrated me at first but I like it now, I think it makes sense for the brain to only buff summon damage and its still universally good for dodging, i also like the new bonus effects it has

[unique warren]

Yeah, like... web ball, then nasty cholla, then metal monstrosity, then... burning strife, then System Bane, then God's Paranoia. I think a couple more could be added in between (notably an earlier post-ML one) but they would need to be interesting

[fierce nebula]

It’s not a summoner only accessory

[fathom girder]

The only good spike ball is burning strife

[cobalt wharf]

it buffs summon damage and crit by the same amount

bc that’s what the vanilla item does

[dusk bronze]

riptide
smoking comet
air spinner
aorta
god's gambit
yin-yo
sulphurous grabber
shimmerspark
oblivion
quagmire
fault line
pandemic
the microwave
burning revelation
lacerator
the obliterator
the oracle
ozzathoth
???????????????

[pulsar cobalt]

try being a dart fan

[urban cloak]

calamity yoyos are kinda ass to use in a lot of cases

[pine moat]

im a fan of draedon weapons

[cunning sequoia]

try being a thrower fan....

[hasty hawk]

Imo Ozzathoth should be changed into a Lotus Flower too

[fierce nebula]

Ozzathoth

[urban cloak]

they aren't entirely wrong

[cobalt wharf]

how did shimmerspark survive the winter

[distant raft]

yoyos have both an auric and a shadowspec, spear fans get nadir and thats it

[rotund venture]

oh I wanted to do a debuff focused run to see the limit of new Amalgam I totally forgot about it

why does amalgamated brain not have a similar, weaker effect?

[halcyon seal]

FLAIL ONLY USED THE MORNINGSTAR! FOR DEVOURER OF GODS!

[fathom girder]

Lies
I did a yoyo only playthrough a couple months ago and it was probably one of the dumbest runs i've ever had

[dusk bronze]

idk

[fathom girder]

They're stupid strong

[dull heart]

it is already really good and does not need more

[vocal pagoda]

I mean yeah, I was saying that I was upset by the change from a universal damage boost to a summoner only but the changes overall grew on me and changed my mind to thinking about it more positively

[pine moat]

speaking ofa change that grew on me

[pulsar cobalt]

itd be a bit strong, especially with how strong debuffs are in hm (and especially so now with much stronger alcohols)

[muted egret]

[fathom girder]

I'm pretty sure the change to summon damage only is because 1.4.5 brain of confusion, a crafting item for it, also buffs only summon damage after a dodge

[vocal pagoda]

The one change that I do not like is the nerf to boss rush, it feels to easy now

[pine moat]

im starting to like the fact that there's no optoins for summoner whips after kscope, just means that minions can deal the damage they do while you just keep dodging, if they started adding more whips post kkscope, they'd have to nerf minion damage to compensate

[dusk bronze]

they nerfed it??

[pine moat]

i used to be bummed about this once, but im seeing the vision now

[dull heart]

That's not 1.4.5 nor js that wggect new

[halcyon seal]

I got some bad news

[dull heart]

That's been on amalgam for ages

[unique warren]

I feel like this could be grounds for making a new accessory with that effect

[vocal pagoda]

Just used death mode Ai now

[halcyon seal]

Kscope massively increases the damage of minions

[fathom girder]

FUCK is that a 1.4.4 thing

[halcyon seal]

So much so that its the best weapon in the game

[dull heart]

1.4

[pulsar cobalt]

no its a 1.4 thing

[fathom girder]

Damnitall

[dusk bronze]

you still die in like 3 hits though

[pine moat]

i mean i still do kscope when i can get in, but just imagine if they add more whips post kscope that have to be better

[hasty hawk]

GOOD

[dusk bronze]

[tropic jolt]

what is boss rush?

I have never heard of such a thing

[hasty hawk]

Some bosses didnt matter and others well fucking nightmarish (Cal Clone)

[dusk bronze]

!wiki boss rush

[mortal sinew]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/1.4.1.001#Bosses
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page boss rush for a direct link or !wiki search boss rush for a list of all hits.

[dusk bronze]

bruh

[vocal pagoda]

Experiencing new attack patterns is cool though

[tropic jolt]

good bot

[fathom girder]

It's this thing called calamity mod

[pine moat]

they would have to nerf lategame summons, that or the new endgame whips are just sidegrades

[halcyon seal]

Oh yeah, Spider Staff nerfs, did they happen

[hasty hawk]

it wasnt even new patterns, it was just stat bloat and unfairly fast projectiles

[dusk bronze]

that's not the point of br though

[halcyon seal]

Can’t find them on the wiki

[vocal pagoda]

The bosses in the previous update had different ai and acted differently

[unique warren]

Like, I feel like an accessory shouldn't gain an ability out of nowhere

[blazing field]

oh i just noticed hellkite's obtainment method changed

its a renegade awrlock drop now

[hasty hawk]

not really

[urban cloak]

im pretty sure the boss rush behavior changes that were removed were like remnants of old malice

so those new attacks and what not would've just been like speed increases

[hasty hawk]

they just used scrapped malice acceleration and projectile speeds

[blazing field]

whic his pretty cool because it made no sense as a perennial bar craft + more enemy drops fro crags is cool

those guys have

very few unique drops

[vocal pagoda]

Oh

[blazing field]

most of them is just essence of havoc and bloodstone

[rotund venture]

I was gonna say that but I guess it really doesn't matter

[mystic eagle]

And also old Master Death behaviour

[unique warren]

OLD LORD DOESNT DECREASE STEALTH??? GUH????

[pulsar cobalt]

doesnt charge it either

[dull heart]

many of the new ones dont

[pulsar cobalt]

just how holdout weapons work i think

[unique warren]

Odd

[blazing field]

also yknow

for as much as i dislike hug eweapons

[unique warren]

I agree but i think it's neat to be consistent

[blazing field]

like COMICALLY huge weapons

I think this is one of the best ones yet, mainly because

[lyric trellis]

Goodbye skinwalker bosses 🙏

[blazing field]

its design actually feels like it makes sense for how big it is

like yes that is an actual greatsword

[mystic eagle]

The Gummy Sword

[blazing field]

rather than like

[cunning sequoia]

its called galactus blade

like

[blazing field]

a normal sword you just upscaled

[rotund venture]

Earth my beloved the rework is peak

[cunning sequoia]

it SHOULD be huge

[unique warren]

The range is also like, not big

[hasty hawk]

thats forsure a bug

[vocal pagoda]

You know I feel like old lord's claymore makes the progression of melee pre hardmode to streamlined but I feel if it ever gets nerfed to bad people will freak the fuck out

[blazing field]

Ehh idk about that

weapons dont need to bgigantic to be cool