calamity-update-talk

[lyric frigate]

where can i go to get advice if i dont get answers here

[cunning sequoia]

this poll had like 70 people btw

[pseudo vector]

the poll only got 71 responses, which isn’t really representative of the wider community opinion

[open garden]

#help-advice-read-pins probably is a good bet for help and/or advice. make sure to read pins though

[cunning sequoia]

thats a tiny fraction of the subreddit

let alone the entire community

[grand perch]

I mean, the people that dislike stuff are gonna speak up about it, the people that don't care, aren't going to share their opinions at all. There's inherently a negativity bias

[spark kiln]

also, ppl have really exaggerated the changes making ppl more polarised than they would be if they just played the game through

[distant agate]

yea people who are happy with the update are busy playing the update

they arent on the reddit making posts

[tired adder]

I still think it is most civil conglomerate of feedback from reddit

[lean relic]

And theres people who hasn't played the update yet and still complaining

[pseudo vector]

stip’s point that we really wouldn’t get reliable results out of community polling due to a multitude of factors is true

[spark kiln]

ppl just downpatching before even playing

[pseudo vector]

its been considered multiple times but in reality i don’t think we have a feasible way to get reliable results out of smth like a community poll, not anymore at least

[distant agate]

and theres people who are acting like its not possible to install a 2nd mod that re-adds the "QoL" features that got removed lol

[spark kiln]

my fav part of calamity is unironically the early prehardmode until like desert scourge because there’s so much exploration to do between the bosses

[grand perch]

Just like... install a mod that changes the stuff you want to change- the calamity police won't arrest you. There's already a mod that reverts most of the stuff people are complaining about
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3661278242

[tired adder]

maybe an update-long chat reminder to vote on some link?

[spark kiln]

as soon as u start on the evil bosses it becomes a boss rush

[tired adder]

like how there is toggleable reminder about fandom wiki

[grand perch]

Again, people that dislike it are going to vote, people that don't care just won't

[distant agate]

the amount of people who are saying "I shouldnt have to install another mod to make the first mod fun" like ok, why? why not? you're already on tmodloader, the mods are free, theres no downside to just installing another one

[alpine cargo]

What did the update add

[pseudo vector]

the main update or the hotfix?

[alpine cargo]

Hotfix

[lyric trellis]

The thought of downgrading to an objectively way worse version of the game is so insane to me, hard to put into words really

[tired adder]

there is apparently argument about how a lot of mods make the game unstable

[distant agate]

fr fr, i recently hit post moon lord and the game just feels like its shooting past now

[pseudo vector]

nothing much, just straggling stuff from when we were working on the update that didn’t make it into initial release

[distant agate]

i wish i had more reason to slow down again

[lean relic]

And then someone will say "adding more mods will make the game more laggier"
Dude its not a content mod..

[grand perch]

Like, in a way, I get it. I really dislike a lot of the changes that calamity makes to vanilla terraria, but at the same time, it's a free mod. It costs you nothing

[alpine cargo]

I need me a patch note tbh

[tired adder]

but I can't tell if this community-wide psyop or actual issue with tML

due to how gigantic terraria content mods are

[distant agate]

how many mods are people using lol, i got like 15 installed and have no issues

[pseudo vector]

if its a lot of content mods, yes
if its a lot of qol, likely not

[distant agate]

i think its just a community with a lot of children in it

and children have consistently bad opinions

[pseudo vector]

depends on the sorts of mods you install

[lyric trellis]

My super 200 mods modpack

[spark kiln]

some ppl enable tons of mods without knowing what they do and then will complain about it being unstable

[grand perch]

I mean, if they wanna go play the older version and miss out on the new stuff, then it's subjectively better for them. Let them do it I guess. I still play ancient versions of minecraft, and that's entirely foreign to some people.

[void gull]

what do you mean "Grants or impoves"?

[spark kiln]

i don’t know it’s in russian

[void gull]

it's the only line in english

[pseudo vector]

people who read the changelogs first usually get the wrong impression of the content included in updates and auch

[spark kiln]

o

grants if you don’t have it and improves if you do

[pseudo vector]

translation mods haven’t updated properly yet

[grand perch]

It gives you the ability to dodge if you don't already have it, and it improves the ability if you don't

[void gull]

how exactly does it "improve"?

[spark kiln]

less cooldown idk

[tired adder]

the new patch made it so dodges properly stack now

[lean relic]

Yeah just dont enable too many content mods or you will end up like this

[void gull]

HEY stackable dodges, peak

[brave star]

What is the shimmering ribbon?

[pseudo vector]

genuine question, have the qol removals we have done in brainstorm been noticeable ingame

[pseudo vector]

sagittariod’s dev vanity

[brave star]

Ok

[lean relic]

I must say
only cosmolight for me

[mellow stag]

asgard's valor resprite is ass

[tired adder]

the most noticeable change for many is events becoming consumable

[grand perch]

Like I don't play calamity enough to actually know what got changed, but I found it a bit weird that the ankh shield upgrades just stops about halfway through the game. I never used the cosmolight, but that's because my friends force me to install luiAFK

[stuck kite]

it was relatively smooth when given to auric betas i felt

[lyric trellis]

How many times are people fighting events for it to be an issue

[grand perch]

I think the ankh shield change is fine if it's gonna get upgrades in a future version, but for now, it felt kinda incomplete

[lean relic]

that one person throwing pencil image

[stuck kite]

i think the amount of times the qol talk has been regurgitated has made it more felt in gameplay as well

[pseudo vector]

the only event item that’s been brought up as a problem area is goblin battle standard due to tattered cloth being rare and only dropped by goblin scouts

[vestal osprey]

Me who plays journey mode and is affected by none of this:

[mellow stag]

what person throwing pencil image

[tired adder]

blood moon, probably

[cunning sequoia]

also the fact it upgrades in hardmode

[mellow stag]

ohhhh

[stuck kite]

ignore cal makes goblin battle standard half the cost

[grand perch]

I think the reason people dislike that one particularly is just because the change seems pretty arbitrary and pointless. I really don't get why it was changed

[pseudo vector]

we do intend on making an ankh shield upgrade line some time in the future

[cunning sequoia]

goblin scouts are still annoying little shits tbf

[tired adder]

also caustic tear was better rain initiator

than torrental tier

since it turned weather into storm instantly

[grand perch]

yeah like if I was at the helm, I wouldn't remove it's current upgrades until it has some of it's own, but that's just my two cents

[regal vessel]

why did wing stat bonuses get removed

[lyric trellis]

I think they’ll be okay getting 10 per night

[lean relic]

For this, its explained somewhere in #changelogs

[tired adder]

which is useful for fishing and shrimpy truffle

[pseudo vector]

that and bloody tear drops somewhat frequently from my experience

[grand perch]

I mean, you drop plenty of bloody tears anyway, so you're never gonna run out

[still bluff]

yea, i usually get a bloody tear or two every blood moon lol
if you're unlucky you can fall back on crafting a new one

[cunning sequoia]

were the graveyard enemy blood orbs removed?

[grand perch]

though I will ask (and sorry if it's been asked already), what was the rationale behind making event summons consumable again?

[regal vessel]

i have been getting over 3 per blood moon

though it might be cause of hardmode

[vestal osprey]

That was a thing?

[cunning sequoia]

yeah

mostly as a semi-fix to blood moon rng

[pseudo vector]

the only time you’ll ever really need blood moons is if you’re looking for very specific stuff or fighting dreadnautilus for one reason or another

[grand perch]

if you're farming them, you comfortably get 30+ per night

[still bluff]

my casual playthroughs tend to be rev also which doesn't have the crazy boosted spawnrates too

[spark hearth]

Ooh, looking forward to what you guys come up with 🙏

[stuck kite]

its more common to get blood orbs from graveyards in 2.1

[placid kite]

Is there a patch log for 2.1.1?

[cunning sequoia]

okay yeah

[spark hearth]

It's on the wiki

[stuck kite]

obviously not near blood moon levels but its not a hassle

[lean relic]

#mod-announcements

[placid kite]

Thanks

[cunning sequoia]

then if you get really unlucky you can fall back on that

[grand perch]

oh actually, since there's some developers here, I think you'll wanna look at nerfing the eye of the golem a bit. It's currently stronger than the destroyer emblem, which is supposed to be an upgrade

[cunning sequoia]

honestly so far i think goblin army is the only one thats annoying due to the hardmode buff meaning most people would want to fight them at least twice

[tired adder]

so maybe torrential tear could be tweaked to reduce/remove random delays for both activating and deactivating

[regal vessel]

Is Ravager still getting that glowup

[spark hearth]

I was swimming in them post WoF prior to the patch so that's an understandable change

[pseudo vector]

so from what i can gather from this convo at least, the most felt qol removals / changes are:

• cosmolight tier shift
• consumable event items
• ankh shield not having an upgrade line to compensate for removal from asgard’s valor

[grand perch]

like there's some bias because those are the ones I've heard people talking about the most. I'm not even sure what other changes there were

[placid kite]

Event items are consumable???

[regal vessel]

Ankh Shield is a useless accessory

[spark hearth]

Yeah, seems to be the sentiment. Wing stats too, but I don't mind it personally

[vestal osprey]

That last issue I beleive is already planned to be fixed as a mine will be made

[pseudo vector]

yeah

[regal vessel]

yea thats my only major problem with this update so far

[turbid latch]

What kind of bug is this? It wasn't there yesterday. I've been having glitches since the update.

[regal vessel]

I think a nerf wouldve been better rather than an outright removal

[grand perch]

don't do drugs kids

[pseudo vector]

i’ve personally not really felt the qol removals, might be biased but from my experience the game feels largely the same

[lyric trellis]

It was also originally planned to make boss summons consumable (after beating the boss) but that was put on hold but events were done anyway since they’re just not that needed and it’s more annoying to get several unstacked pirate maps instead of having a single unconsumable one

[spark kiln]

dawg i got like 3 bloody tears and 50 money troughs from my first blood moon the bills aren’t that high

ppl complaining about nothing before playing

[lean relic]

Don't do drugs
You ate mushroom

[cunning sequoia]

the only item ive felt i had to craft so far was hermes boots

[spark hearth]

As someone who plays MP with friends and family, I just use server commands to adjust day and time, since it's in vanilla. Cosmolight who? ||/jk||

[cunning sequoia]

but like, that still has a recipe

so idk

[spark kiln]

LOL

[turbid latch]

What mushroom? I played yesterday and didn't have that. I logged into the game after the update and it started happening.

[spark kiln]

ppl really complaining about nothing

hermes boots aren’t even hard to get anyways

[cunning sequoia]

yeah i just got really unlucky and had the resources to spare lol

[tired adder]

also, I mentioned that in #suggestions-discussion

[pseudo vector]

again if you read the changelogs before you play, chances are you’re gonna get the wrong idea of what the update entails unlike if you actually played the update before reading the changelog for more info

[cunning sequoia]

i dont think most people even read the changelogs

[turbid latch]

[cunning sequoia]

they just got the info from other people who kinda read it and spread it around

[spark hearth]

Yeah... Classic on-paper versus in execution conundrum

[lean relic]

Odd Mushroom

[grand perch]

like it's a fine QOL item, but it's not worth the slot on it's own. I feel like it could be useful if you were willing to swap between bossing/non-bossing loadouts, but I don't know anyone that actually wants to bother with that

actually, for that matter- would it be possible to have some kind of 'gear duplication' mechanism that allows you to use a single accessory/armour piece in multiple loadouts?

[pseudo vector]

[spark kiln]

this is what’s holding back loadouts

[distant agate]

what mage set would you guys reconmend for DoG?

[cunning sequoia]

yes please

[tired adder]

but a lot of people seem to only have "trusted" QoL from Calamity (because some of most popular workshop mods are cheaty)

[cunning sequoia]

so far loadouts are just, the main one + fishing + maybe mining/building

[spark kiln]

if you keep a slot empty, it should copy from your first load out

[cunning sequoia]

its such a waste

[spark hearth]

Can anyone remind me who is still working on the final Exo Mechs theme? Is it you CDmusic?

[pseudo vector]

yes

[spark hearth]

Excellent, can't wait to hear it someday

[regal vessel]

How long is it gonna be

[grand perch]

like I guess 'play journey mode' is the answer here, but I don't really think that's a great solution

maybe I'll look into making a mod for it myself

[spark kiln]

22 minutes

[pseudo vector]

idk

[cunning sequoia]

30 seconds

[pseudo vector]

it’s not been a focus of mine since late last year

i was super busy doing brainstorm stuff

[cunning sequoia]

its just a really short loop of teaser 1

[spark kiln]

bro teaser 1 was so long ago

[spark hearth]

Understandable, my only reasonable request is I hope you're able to work it out before Yharim is added someday in the future (sorry I know that's a way way off prediction)

[pseudo vector]

[spark kiln]

i remember showing it to my best friend in class when it came out, then he left the country, then i had 3 more years of school and now im midway through my first year of uni

[tired adder]

therefore, they don't want to get mods, that mess up with game in ways, that are not "officially endorsed"

[vestal osprey]

So this is intresting. We may be getting smaller updates inbetween the next big one

[cunning sequoia]

oh wow uhh same

[spark hearth]

Sidenote, I still put the pre fight draedon theme on in the background when I'm working occasionally

[cunning sequoia]

like almost 1 to 1 minus the leaving the country part

😭

[spark kiln]

we still play terraria together 👍

actually not still bc he didn’t play back then but i introduced him to the music

[spark hearth]

Fine with me, I'd rather not wait another year or so for another update, even if it's minor additions and balance changes

[regal vessel]

Its gonna be another 8 years until this mod is done

[spark kiln]

dm dokuro basically got him into terraria itself

[cunning sequoia]

yeah but at least you'll get more updates in the meantime lol

[vestal osprey]

What I'm wondering is what would cont as a "Small update"

[cunning sequoia]

instead of 1 gigantic update every 2 years

[spark hearth]

I believe it, legendary run of mod ost music

[tired adder]

...which kinda goes back to issue, where Calamity players are unwilling to play anything, that is not branded as Calamity or is not explicitly compatible with Calamity

[pseudo vector]

we don’t intend on having an update gap like the one between brainstorm and bountiful harvest again, let alone make an update as all over the place as something like a brainstorm or bountiful harvest

[spark hearth]

2.1.2, 2.1.3, etc.

[distant agate]

man i really like the rework for the phantasmal fury

[still bluff]

the opposite is true where anything that's branded as calamity is immediately amazing (overhaul...)

[lean relic]

SSO TOMORROW

[regal vessel]

we used to pray for times like these 🙏

[vestal osprey]

Will it just be small balance tweaks? Or will they throw in a full item rework here or there?

[still bluff]

SSO SEPTEMBER-OCTOBER

[cunning sequoia]

[still bluff]

you cannot stop the calamity dev from reworking a random usestyle1 broadsword

[spark hearth]

I like the sound of that if you guys can manage it!

[pseudo vector]

now that we’re in a position where we can decide the scopes of our updates better and focus on what we want to focus on instead of some arbitrary plan set about years ago by devs who aren’t here anymore

[spark kiln]

it’s funny how many ppl on discord are exactly the same age

[crisp obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1305186413985271808/1454953774551662695/togif.gif

[vestal osprey]

Maybe they might just drop a random boss rework for a boss that doesnt really fit into a possible theme

[spark kiln]

like istg most ppl i meet on discord are the same age as me

[tired adder]

well yes, overhaul is extreme example of that brand devotion

[spark kiln]

but that didn’t used to be the case

[cunning sequoia]

astrum aureus rework update

[humble kettle]

So... yharim 2027? 🥹

[pseudo vector]

no

[still bluff]

yharom 2059

[vestal osprey]

(We need the Eater of worlds rework, he was left behind)

[spark hearth]

Even better, and what I was hoping wa the case. Ozzatron and you have my spirit energy

[still bluff]

by the power of ozzatron

[pseudo vector]

we do not have a time estimate for when we’ll get around to yharim

[humble kettle]

Dang

[vestal osprey]

I can see that coming in a hypothetical astral infection overhaul

[pseudo vector]

we have a lot of work to do before then

[still bluff]

he has been reborn as a lotus flower to bring calamity to a new era

[vestal osprey]

(God knows that biome could use one)

[cunning sequoia]

[humble kettle]

I'm locking in november 2028

[cunning sequoia]

lmao

[humble kettle]

Calling it now

[icy stump]

People also complain about the Wings stat removals

[cunning sequoia]

im locking in november 2nd 2035

[pseudo vector]

ngl i never really felt those removals honestly

[spark hearth]

Anytime before 2030 plz

[molten grove]

[cunning sequoia]

i think people just kinda want to know why those happened

like now its mostly confusion on the changes

from what ive seen

[spark hearth]

❤️

[harsh plume]

and the fact that the new Lunic Eye / Eye of Magnus sound is absolutely terrible 🙁

[still bluff]

oh it's so you cna actually choose between wings instead of just having a single best wing set for every armor set lol

can't have variation if there's a single best set guaranteed

[lean relic]

Hell yes finally

[cunning sequoia]

good point

[regal vessel]

what was the best wing set

[still bluff]

just about all of the 10% damage ones were best with their armor sets

tattered fairy was really good tho

festive could do crazy damage if abused

[lean cave]

harpy wings :(

[tired adder]

a lot of them were just set bonus Pt2

[regal vessel]

bleh

i never chose the dmg ones ngl

[tired adder]

there were some non-set-related wings

[pseudo vector]

it was very limiting for build variety since people just went with whatever wings benefitted them the most

[regal vessel]

I never really go for damage anymore in general

[still bluff]

now we can make different wings good for different things

[pseudo vector]

instead of the wings they liked the look of depending on the tier

[regal vessel]

ive been running invigorating and its honestly pretty broken

[tired adder]

but most I heard is tank loadout

[lean cave]

harpy wings 2

all i need in life

[tired adder]

fairy/angel wings, giant turtle shell, fairy boots, mollusk set pieces

[regal vessel]

somewhat exaggerated because I have a dedicated wing slot mod but the amount of regen you get from invig on all accessories and some regen buffs/accessories is crazy

[tired adder]

so that's why regen was removed from accessories

we are now supposed to get bulk from reforges

[regal vessel]

it was not

[pseudo vector]

only if you feel the need to have extra regen

[regal vessel]

im using 2 regen accessories rn

im probably gonna mix my reforges a bit cause this is a little excessive

[still bluff]

regen reforges are cracked atm, yea

we are aware, it'll probably get toned down a bit lol

[tired adder]

I wonder if regenerator + invigorating is better than menacing

[radiant sparrow]

For summoner what reforge do I want on my weapons and accessories?

[regal vessel]

I think setting it to like .35 would be better

[pseudo vector]

in testing for pml i was fine with ambrosial ampoule being in my build and then my reforges locking in on damage and defense

[distant agate]

shoutout to the reelic of deliverance for making getting around easier

thing is goated

[still bluff]

it might maaaaybe be too strong
however it's funny

[regal vessel]

Is the summoner rebalance a priority?

[still bluff]

once we're porting? yea

[native thistle]

Well, vanity slots exist for a reason. Personally, I do prefer wings having bonus states then marginal speed and direction differences.

[still bluff]

before then, it would just be waiting to redo it right after once we get fabled

[distant agate]

god you need so much bloodstone

[pseudo vector]

1.4.5 rebalancing is gonna be a headache lmao

especially with the reforges being as good as they are

[still bluff]

good thing summoner's the thing that was changed most and it's already totally fucked anyway

[wispy patrol]

so does summoner work now or no

[distant agate]

there HAS to be a faster way to farm hellstone than this

[wispy patrol]

in 2.1.1 i mean

[distant agate]

am i missing something, ive got a chaos candle and battle potion down and im barely getting any

[native thistle]

Can't see why we cant have both minor stat increases and wing stat difference

[regal vessel]

While I do like the whips a lot if more weapons were to be added for Summoner I think that just having a new weapon type would be better than adding an excessive amount of whips (as in more than needed for every basis of progression)

The whips are fun to use but are all pretty samey outside of a few outliers

[wispy patrol]

calamity usually makes very unique weapons so i wouldnt mind some more whips, but completely different weapons would be cool too

[radiant sparrow]

The whips are practically the same but does X summon tag and has long range

Apart from morning star, that increases crit?

[regal vessel]

I was honestly pretty disappointed with the new whips in 1.4.5, a third of them are very late game and the rest either are boring or worse than the Snapthorn which is pre-boss

[radiant sparrow]

It's atleast a bit better progression though

[native thistle]

The meteor one is kinda stinky

[wispy patrol]

i like them, i appreciate that theres whips to get before entering the jungle

[grand perch]

ok, turns out there's already a mod for it
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3588960936

[regal vessel]

its unique but like I said snapthorn mogs every pre-hm whip

[native thistle]

But I really like summoner progression now, feels like an actual class now lol

[mystic eagle]

[tired adder]

morning star and kaleidoscope increase crit yes

[radiant sparrow]

I also think that whips in general are a fucking lame weapon

[tired adder]

but also kaleido is no longer as good because dark harvest and electric eel fill crowd control niche

[still bluff]

snapthorn my beloathed

[radiant sparrow]

I summon a small army and I'm left with a pathetic whip

[tired adder]

while constellation and possession are new best whips

[native thistle]

The moon lord whip is insane

[regal vessel]

Constellation is worse than Kaleidoscope imo cause of how little the tag damage is

[regal vessel]

Also yea

Possession is teetering on Zenith levels of strength

[native thistle]

Fitting for a moon lord drop, probably a nightmare to balance lol

[radiant sparrow]

It also looks cool

[tired adder]

not sure if that is case

5 less flat, but 5% more crit

[radiant sparrow]

If say crit is more important

What is the crit multiplier?

[tired adder]

and you can get triple digit damage stat on stardust minions

[regal vessel]

i lowk forgot that it had crit

[still bluff]

kaleidoscope is a weapon of all time

[tired adder]

also homing stars

[native thistle]

No reason to do EoL anymore lol, well, outside of the terraprisma

The homing stars are compensation for the lower base damage

[tired adder]

not sure about that

zenith deals 8k without any gear

while I had seen 8k on possession, while focusing Ogre and using OOA sets

and there were sentries, too

[distant agate]

whoever did the phantasmal fury and shadowbolt staff reworks

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-i-love-you-ily-gif-4247002

while i always used this weapons before, they were quite boring, just the same weapon but stronger

damn do gifs not load in this chat lol

[tired adder]

got 9k DPS while wearing a meme set

[summer shore]

Embeds don't work

Images do though

Well unless you have a certain role

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-i-love-you-ily-gif-4247002

I love phantfury too

Evil soul vortex from hell

[tired adder]

while switching to zenith to end the fight got me 10k DPS

[plush carbon]

Can someone send the reworked weapons in Brainstorm image

[distant agate]

its so fun now

[summer shore]

Have you seen apoctosis array

[distant agate]

it was always my go to for DoG, i hope its still good for it

[distant agate]

nope not yet

[summer shore]

You should. It's peak

[radiant sparrow]

So zenith is still better but possession is still pretty neat

[tired adder]

...it probably be, indeed, ridiculous with some cal summons, though, that is true

[distant agate]

oh thats very cool

shame im way past this being good lol

[summer shore]

No actually you can still use it way later on

Just for the mana regain thing

I used it alongside primordial ancient and helium flash on scal and it was so damn fun switching weapons

[tired adder]

I remember seeing in Yardis' stream, that this thing was capable of insane crits with starbeam

[radiant sparrow]

I hope that the cal whips that eventually will be made are actually interesting

[plush carbon]

Please

[tired adder]

[tired adder]

like 45k per shot

[regal vessel]

died as i killed plantera smh

[gloomy grove]

5th message in pins

[plush carbon]

I see

[tired adder]

...wish that they could revise the numbers and remove some unintentional interactions

instead of completely axing the concept

[distant agate]

im using an infinite mana setup with the chaos stone so rip lol

[summer shore]

Oh lol

[radiant sparrow]

I feel silly but it has post buffed ravager....isn't ravager pre/post golem

[summer shore]

Fai

[radiant sparrow]

Not post provi?

[tired adder]

but oh well, it was fun while lasted

[summer shore]

Ravager is post golem but gets buffed after providence

[radiant sparrow]

Oh wtf

I didn't know that....

[summer shore]

So you have to refight ravager after providence to get bloodstone

[radiant sparrow]

I've just murked signus and stormweaver

Where I am rn, is there anything summoner wise I should be like YOU SHOUlD GET THIS

[fierce nebula]

amazing base

[hot wadi]

Haha nice, now go get the bag and open the Jungle Temple

[regal vessel]

Thankfully im playing on a medium world so i can do that with relative ease

[summer shore]

Signus has cosmilamp

Weaver has nothing summoner afaik

Maybe arc flash ring but idk how that works with minions

[distant agate]

flash ring still procs on minion hit

[tired adder]

weaver should have stellar torus

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Stellar_Torus_Staff

[radiant sparrow]

I've crafted that

I'm using the Providence summon rn. The three sets of things

[muted harness]

Do remember Daawnlight got reworked, it is now compatible with pretty much any ranger option. On that note, I am curious how it would perform with aforementioned pointer

It's less tryhard sniper accessory and more of a supercrit gimmick

[hidden belfry]

Does the supercrit work by using the amount above 100% or does it have another way to supercrit?

[muted harness]

if you are above 100% crit you have a chance to super crit for x3 i believe. at 200%+ it should be x4

i don't actually know the exact math, sorry

[proud mica]

honestly i love the reworked rev + BoC fight, but at the same time the other pre hardmode boss fights feel underwhelming in comparison 😭i hope they receive some sort of similar rework as well

like getting these intros and transitions

[brave star]

littlE e

thE itEm

[forest turret]

I presume the update today included the fix for the burrower nuking projectiles? Couldn't find any patch notes

[spark kiln]

they’re on the wiki

[forest turret]

Ahh it was linking me to the website not the wiki, thanks

[stuck kite]

soon

[main grove]

Nooo, Not Hellborn Too... At Least It's Just Damage Getting Reduced, Not The Cool Mechanic, But Still T_T My Precious Friends All Getting Axed

[unreal shuttle]

vengeful sun staff causes insane FPS drops lol

[unreal shuttle]

ngl i love the reworked bosses more than what infernum makes them im really excited for this

[unreal shuttle]

well im on a shitty PC but still

[west glen]

What the thing assorted in the new update

[bleak oriole]

okay so can someone tell me what is the weird mech worm thing i see messing with my ores from time to time?

[icy stump]

It's Burrower, a new critter (?) found in caverns

It helps you to find ores, and you can kill it to obtain more ores and a pet. You have to use an electric weapon or tool to kill it

[blazing field]

it's effecitvely a critter

it can't harm you

[blazing field]

you don't necessarily need to use electricity, but it does stun it which makes alot easier to kill it in the earlygame when you dont have the capacity to really deal enough damage to it before it runs away

they're living ore lootboxes basically

[blazing field]

I hope more stuff like this gets added

creatures that aren't directly harmful to you but also aren't like, tiny

[bleak oriole]

that's super cool

[gloomy grove]

what is the burrower doing on discord bruh

[blazing field]

Throudon stilt stroller 🙏 🙏

[blazing field]

Burrower

[gloomy grove]

❤️

carry on

[inner timber]

i think they figured it would just be easier to nuke it as opposed to figuring out the perfect numbers for now, and even then with 'perfect numbers' it is just free damage in most cases unless you have it lose damage if the mana use is too low, then it is free damage in slightly less cases

[tired adder]

mana potions my beloathed

[distant agate]

whats an easy way to farm money pre-DoG

[vestal osprey]

Does the crystal exploit still work

[distant agate]

never heard of that

dont really wanna do an exploit tho, just an actual farm

[junior obsidian]

is there changelogs for the update to brainstorm

[pseudo vector]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/2.1.1

[hasty tangle]

good update name

[naive sluice]

Update 4 days ago

[junior obsidian]

thanks

[hardy gulch]

i wish both Anahita and the Leviathan used the screen effects that only the Leviathan currently uses

[vestal osprey]

So what the hell is drift wood?

[pseudo vector]

new building block we added

[vestal osprey]

Where do you find it? I dont recall any driftwood trees being added

[halcyon seal]

What the hell is The Pointer

[worn fulcrum]

Wood what can be get from crates caught in sunken see

[hasty tangle]

a data type that points to other data. very helpful for passing large parameters into functions without wasting tons of time copying the data first

[mystic eagle]

It can be obtained from fishing anywhere iirc

[lean relic]

Actually direct
you can get doing both fishing and opening crates

[worn fulcrum]

Oh

Hm

[halcyon seal]

I hope your family cancels Christmas

[worn fulcrum]

Yes, I remember now
I did fishing in sunken sea and got some of it

Oh wait

Embed failure

[lean relic]

Fishing for crates for Sunken Sea furniture

[vestal osprey]

Is this a wood type thats gonna have a tree in the sunken sea? And its only fish able for now as a place holder

[worn fulcrum]

I guess it's not gonna occur naturally?

Only in furniture

[hushed hazel]

i don't think driftwood having a tree form would make sense

[blazing field]

It's driftwood, so

[hushed hazel]

cause like it's driftwood

[blazing field]

At most it'd probably generate in beaches as

well

yk

driftwood

😭

[worn fulcrum]

So only as furniture or just as random thing you can catch

[vestal osprey]

I just know the top biome of the new sunken sea is gonna be called the timeless shire

Shore

[worn fulcrum]

Hm

[mystic eagle]

Is this the new UK DLC?

[worn fulcrum]

I think it will not contain it

[fathom girder]

Driftwood trees 🔥

They break the same way grass breaks

[unreal shuttle]

can yall make plantera not a circle victim next update

[pseudo vector]

probably not next update, but eventually we will fix that

[unreal shuttle]

awesome

[wide wadi]

ima fix it in the shadow of yharim update

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-shades-sunglasses-eyeglasses-cant-see-gif-17413466

the what

[vocal kelp]

Awesome

[hardy gulch]

perennial update reworks rev+ plantera trust me

[vestal osprey]

Jungle overhaul

[fathom girder]

Circle strat goes in the square strat

Circle strat goes in the rectangle strat

[hardy gulch]

osogof tunnel better not be patched

[fathom girder]

Circle strat goes in the

[main estuary]

triangle strat

[fathom girder]

That's right

[vestal osprey]

Tesseract strat

[fathom girder]

The circle strat can-

[wary crest]

Dodecahedron strat

[vestal osprey]

Actually isnt there a plan to pernial bars and make it tree bark

[lofty viper]

i no longer can't get golden rod by killing angler? I mean if angler is killed by thrasher

[fathom girder]

Tbh if you give her back her vanilla movement she could be a bit better, I think

Cuz in vanilla she actively tries to corner you it's neat

[hardy gulch]

perennial wood type...

[wet burrow]

calamity minions still broken in 2.1.1 multiplayer (vanilla minions work fine) :(, random despawns / can't cancel minion buff by clicking it.

[fathom girder]

Known issue

[worn fulcrum]

Yes, trasher staking was removed

[lofty viper]

good to know

[vestal osprey]

I can see plantera revengence coming in that same update

[hardy gulch]

i agree
it fits

[stoic oxide]

it didn't

[spark hearth]

Aww man, that's still an issue? I remember my friend being confused as to why my mini DoG was teleporting all over the place

(before Brainstorm)

[fathom girder]

was boutta say

that's just a thing he does now

[stoic oxide]

its the same issue as the burrower bug

[fierce nebula]

This is why singleplayer is superior! (I have no friends)

[west ledge]

chat is summoning still bugged for anyone else? Keeps despawning after like 30s

[wet burrow]

yep

[west ledge]

fah

is brain of cthulu still bugged too

[orchid linden]

is there any bugs with bloodmoon?
cause i still doesnt seen one

[unreal shuttle]

funny how ice wings are better than mothron wings now

(8 mph faster)

[west ledge]

ice wings dont exist

unless im just a dumbass

[fathom girder]

peak combo

irradiate anything I hit, irradiate scales with ranged stats, 25% more of it too

[unreal shuttle]

frozen wings mb

[west ledge]

yo stomp gtfo

[fathom girder]

tf are you doing here

[blazing field]

old duke yapping device

[ebon plover]

ftw malice golem is so unfair, how can i beat him on mage?

[cerulean shoal]

Anywhere where I can check the list of bug fixes?

[fathom girder]

old duke yapping device is peak

[blazing field]

ftw malice

is so unfair

[fathom girder]

I love my debuff scaling off of my ranged stat it's great

[blazing field]

yeah that's kind of the point

this is not an actual serious difficulty

much like in vanilla,

this is a shitpost

ftw/gfb are not proper meant-to-be-taken-seriously difficulties and they are not gonna be treated as such

If you were expecting an actually balanced difficulty uh

[unreal aurora]

Wait so if cosmolight is post deus now is there no other way to skip to night other than sleeping

[blazing field]

Yeah you're not gonna get that

[blazing field]

sundial and moondial

[unreal aurora]

There's a cooldown no ?

[blazing field]

yeah

but it's still a way to skip it

[unreal aurora]

Unlucky

[tired adder]

...how did cal devs made it worse, than boss that you literally cannot see?

[high scaffold]

I got all 3 mechs and then kinda destroyed leviathan and anahita

[blazing field]

idk i just know that they werent trying to make it good

😭

idk why people expect ftw to be balanced or taken seriously when... its not even like that in vanilla

like guys this is the ml throws boulders at you difficulty

[summer shore]

WE LOVE SYNERGIES!!!!!!!!!!!

[blazing field]

if it was meant to be a "serious difficulty", that would kinda go against the point of cutting down on the mod's difficulties

cuz that'd be 3 difficulties the devs would have to balance stuff in

[high scaffold]

Should I do calclone or plantera next?

[blazing field]

torch god

[summer shore]

Clong

[blazing field]

jokes aside prob calclone she got some cool changes

[fathom girder]

So much synergy that I'm actually gonna go deathmode for the rest of this run I think

[high scaffold]

Too bad, I did torch god pre hm

[blazing field]

based

[fathom girder]

rev on ranger is a tad bit too easy for me so it's time to go wacko

[summer shore]

Go death

[unique warren]

Yeah wait I need to get this cleared up are you not supposed to choose between doing calclone or Plantera first or not

[fathom girder]

Yes I'm going death

hehe

[blazing field]

they're on the same tier of progression so yeah

[high scaffold]

I did try calclone but I wasnt locked in so I dead

[summer shore]

I prefer clone first because plant unlocks so much shit

[unique warren]

So it’s sorta like an exo mechs/scal thing?

[summer shore]

Yes

[blazing field]

ye

[unique warren]

Thought so, thanks

[blazing field]

np

[high scaffold]

Should I try getting greentide? It got reworked among with other levi drops

[fathom girder]

yeah

greentide's cool now

[high scaffold]

I did make a trip to the abyss already

[unique warren]

Wait what does calclone unlock again

[high scaffold]

Uhhh, nothing?

It does drop a material

[unique warren]

Guh

[high scaffold]

But the material is mostly just for calamity cores which also need plantera

[unique warren]

Ohhhh wait they switched depth cells to Levi and Anahita

[main turret]

I can't write murasama in the overhaul, what should I do?

[blazing field]

wuh

wdym by write

[unique warren]

That does admittedly make more sense even if it’s perhaps worse from a game design perspective

[blazing field]

and what overhaul? as in the update or like. the mod. terraria overhaul

[high scaffold]

I just noticed that they made heart of the elements post pillars

[wary goblet]

Hello, since DoG got rework in Brainstorm update, is big DoG from teasers still a thing that will appear in Sunken Sea update?

[unique warren]

Big sprite is scrapped

[blazing field]

That sprite itself was scrapped, not only that but it was not going to come in the sunken sea update regardless

It will get a resprite and another rework eventually, but not anytime soon, as the final/proper DoG rework after this temporary one is highly tied to the distortion

Which is a subworld with its own biomes and enemies and resources and etc which will take

a really long while to amke just due to how huge it is as a addition

[unique warren]

Also don’t expect DoG to look similar to how he is now

[high scaffold]

They made abyss amulets completely different also, should I try diamond of the deep once I get it

[blazing field]

This rework is basically just a temporary rework to make the fight Good cuz it kinda sucked too hard before

It's not intended to be the final rework, its a placeholder

[unique warren]

Yeah, a big theme I’m picking up from this update is “just fix it well enough for the time being” lol

[wary goblet]

Good to know

[blazing field]

yeah alot of the update is just kinda setting stuff up for the future

first big update after horse annihilation and all that

plus it was a update that was kinda conceived on the last minute kinda?

[hardy gulch]

im ngl i think the brainstorm mini rework for DoG is good enough until distortion
I 100% should fight reworked DoG soon

[short scaffold]

if i add infernum DoG and brain of Ctulhu wont be from update?

[blazing field]

cuz it rly is just a bunch of miscellaneous sso changes thrown into a separate update so they can free themselves from the Sunken Cost Overhaul and actually figure wtf they wanna do from here

[blazing field]

yeah

and might glitch too idk

[blazing field]

Yeah i think thats the plan rn

would b odd to get another dog rework before then

[hardy gulch]

hyperdeath rift lasers hooked me in

[unique warren]

I can’t wait for cal to get rid of all the rungod

[blazing field]

i like the funny quotes he says

those are good

[void gull]

was queen bee unaffected by death mode changes or what? it's absolutely horrible! eye and king slime were never that fun, but qb is terrible

[blazing field]

and i also like that they are no longer in the chatbox.

i dont like it when the bosses speak through the chatbox.

its ugly. and lame.

[hardy gulch]

will rungodding finally be killed in post moon lord

[unique warren]

Are y’all ever gonna change boss music at any point

Like I don’t see how y’all would

[blazing field]

I think the general consensus seem to be that changing boss themes is a really bad idea

i wouldnt know exact plans cuz im not a dev but

seems

very unlikely

[hardy gulch]

mfw i add le circular arena to exos that moves slowly based on the relative position of every exo mech

[blazing field]

i think the only boss theme where replacing is possible is

the 3 distortion guys

[unique warren]

Does that include DoG

[blazing field]

cuz its, very unfitting and its a theme you realistically can repurpose for smth else

nah

[muted harness]

mkay, after messing around with it, the combo of pointer and dso is pretty hillarious

[blazing field]

the ones that used to be envoys of the devourer

those dudes

[muted harness]

fun item tho

[blazing field]

their boss themes connects them really closely to DoG and also just like

dosen't feel grandiose enoguh, for lack of better term?

[hardy gulch]

yeah
3 seperate themes that capture the essence of the distortion trio after their reworks...

[hollow jackal]

is there 2.1.1 patch notes?

[blazing field]

Like it's a theme that was designed with them being basically

[unique warren]

Wait is Signus from the distortion? I thought he was semi-unrelated but kinda also related to it in a weird way

[blazing field]

glorified minibosses in mind

[vivid creek]

were there any weapon nerfs in 2.1.1
if so was death ascension executed on the spot

[unique warren]

Full rework

[blazing field]

and they are now much more individually important characters who will get reworks to be proper bosses that are individually challenging rather than being like a trio of minibosses p much

so their themes don't make much sense anymore

and again i thinkits a song you realistically can liek

probably repurpose

[unique warren]

Wait nvm you said 2.1.1 whoops

[blazing field]

for a distortion miniboss theme or smth

[blazing field]

yeah

hes from there but hes kinda just doing his own thing

[hardy gulch]

repurposed cosmic guardian theme...

[blazing field]

not rly related to noxus or devourer or any of those guys evil nefarious schemes

[unique warren]

3/4 base damage

[hardy gulch]

unshackled from the fatass worm...

[blazing field]

like devourer, ceaseless and weaver all somehow tie back to noxus

signus tho nah hes just kinda doing his own thing hes just kinda over dere minding his own business and making shady deals to ninjas

[unique warren]

W Signus

[hardy gulch]

i thought storm weaver didnt tie in to noxus

[blazing field]

used to be a part of its hivemind, broke from it, is implied to have a connection to DoG somehow (Very likely a prototype devourer)

like dog hates weaver's ass for some reason

[hardy gulch]

thought it was some random creature that was plonked into reality

[fathom girder]

I thought it being tied to DoG was old lore

[marble anvil]

I swear I heard from somewhere that Signus fought DoG and won

[blazing field]

nah

[tired adder]

cosmic guardian is a minion now

[blazing field]

thats old lore moment

[main turret]

Murasama doesn't work in the overhead

[fathom girder]

bweeh

[blazing field]

Nope

There's still very much a tie-in[

it's just a different tie-in than before

in the past they were the same species and weaver was a baby devourer that it took under its wing or smth

now its more like

[fathom girder]

stop using overhaul it doesn't work and sucks

[blazing field]

they have a vague mysterious connection which somehow leads to devourer really fucking hating weaver and wanting to kill it

but in a single good act ever yharim could tell it was extremely sus that devourer wanted to kill weaver for some reason even thogu hits not a threat in the slightest to anyone besides like. shitass harpies

so yharim basically just went

"i know what you are. dont kill that guy."

[fathom girder]

I see

[blazing field]

new weaver whisper was added this update

[hardy gulch]

yharim finally expressing free will

[blazing field]

its , very similar to the previous one

[fathom girder]

Oh I didn't even read it

lmao

[blazing field]

but got expanded

has more info now

i have a theory ive share din lore chat a few times as to why

devourer hates weaver's ass so much

and tl;dr it boils down to the fact weaver can probably absorb essence too, except that it goes directly to itself instead of to noxus, which not only means weaver can gradually get stronger but it also means that it is a direct threat to noxus's schemes as it can absorb essence before DoG gets to it

[unique warren]

Who up messaging they master rn

[blazing field]

yharon

clearly

[unique warren]

How ram dash pilled is new DoG

It's probably just the vid I'm watching cause this dude is just only dodging with ram dash pretty much 😭

[halcyon seal]

Doze beat a dashless nohit on malice so

[unique warren]

Well yeah but is it still clearly the best choice

[idle wave]

since mage is the class with the most reworks/changes this update(?), are there any notable changes in progression equipment wise?

[cerulean shoal]

Idk if this patch might have fixed the fact that trees in the sulfuric sea aren't growing. Anyone got any fixes?

[unique warren]

I don't think there's much that is new rather than reworked

[cerulean shoal]

I should ask help channel

[unique warren]

Oh uh, new weapon post pillars

[idle wave]

ah, i see
mage is now overall better though right?

[unique warren]

Probably idk

[balmy saddle]

i mean chaos stone is super cool now imo

[stark quail]

oh hi 2.1.1

[blazing field]

hi :D

[stark quail]

hi

[hardy gulch]

would a retiered Slime God still use slimes derived from the world evils?

[cinder hearth]

Yes

[wary crest]

Atm with star beam rye it’s probably the strongest class

[blazing field]

Depends on what they want to do with its design

though it would still generally make sense with its lore so unless thats drastically changed i imagine atleast smth similar

though probably not as basic in its execution as it is now

cuz its just

big slime with spikes

big slime with wings

[solar citrus]

😎

[blazing field]

without much of any sorto f interesting behavior

[unique warren]

Yea what was the point of making it 34?

It's already a subpar pickaxe

[blazing field]

good question whats up with that

was it a calamity change or was that from vanilla

frankly

i dont even care about the balance of it

i just think 34 is a ugly godamn number

round that up!!!

make it a multiple of 5!!!

its unpleasant!!!

[unique warren]

Nah that was def a cal thing

[hardy gulch]

i genuinely prefer multiples of 5 in terms of tool power

[unreal shuttle]

best mod

[pulsar cobalt]

cal reversion

[blazing field]

[pulsar cobalt]

TRUE???

[solar citrus]

is there any pickaxes that doesnt ends with 0 or 5?

[unique warren]

Yeah what reason could they have possibly done that for

[unreal shuttle]

reaver shark 59

[blazing field]

when was that even done

i mean

all things considered maybe it was a fabsol moment idk it soundds like the sort of trivial weird change he'd make, but maybe not

id go through the update history to see when it was done but

im too lazy to do that

[unique warren]

Also can y'all make a fucking toggle for red devil I want him dead

Annyoing piece of shit

[twin bloom]

Wear that one dog pet

[blazing field]

ive found myself testing out alot of new dialogue portrait mods with 1.4.5

frankly i just like looking at peoples art

i just download new ones and switch between them from time to time

and look at all the npc portraits

its fun

and i like art

art is cool

[minor topaz]

is any of hybrid reforges good?

[pulsar cobalt]

pickaxe power dictates how many strikes it takes to destroy a tile so someone (probably fab lets be honest) didnt like it destroying dirt in like 2 hits or watever

[hardy gulch]

Lead pickaxe: 43%
Platinum Pickaxe, Reaver Shark: 59%
Thats literally all of them

infected stone and hellstone have a pickaxe power requirement of 65% btw

[blazing field]

ive downloaded one called pointy portraits recently

i think its my favorite so far

i think all of the ones ive seen including vanilla are good in their own way iwth ups and downs

but i think this is the one i like the most atm

its got alot of character and a cute artstyle

[pulsar cobalt]

chee did u read my dream

[blazing field]

plus it seems to have portraits for like

almost everything

[blazing field]

nope

where is it

[unique warren]

Bladecrest is still solid right

[blazing field]

she looks appropriately like someone who will yap to you about her newest hyperfixation for 2 hours

[unique warren]

Like it looks pretty good still lo

[pulsar cobalt]

limbus channel sscls

[unique warren]

Just checked it, kinda hit or miss

[blazing field]

this guy fucking sucks

(compliment

[blazing field]

The one i'm most ehhh on so far is shimmered guide

It dosen't rly fit his sprite design much

normal guide is good tho

[unique warren]

I don't much like blood moon zoologist

[blazing field]

im kinda just going through all of my npcs and checking their portraits

i think in vanilla the ones i take issues with are mostly just demolitonist and old man (clothier's fine tbh, he is kind of a snob so i think it makes sense for him to look pretty well-groomed and taken care of despite his age)

demolitonist really is just

i dont like how angry he looks

i think he should look crazy. not angry.

i mportant distinction

[unique warren]

Fair nuff

Old Man looks fine to me tho

[lone nimbus]

does eol still drop the terraprisma during night?!

[carmine harbor]

thanks for patch update projectiles still dont work

[blazing field]

I personally just wish old man looked a bit more decrepit, his facial expression is good and does look like someone who'd stab me in a dark alleyway

[unique warren]

Nah they killed that I think?

Thank fucking god

[blazing field]

i love his evil ass look of "i'm gonna steal your fucking liver"

[lone nimbus]

oh dang ive been grinding eol thinking it did i killed eol like 9 times already

[unique warren]

[blazing field]

ok i love this guy

hes so fucking stupid look at him

[unique warren]

Silly dude

[blazing field]

"oh boy, i wonder what the goblin is!"

forgot i had that installed .

[unique warren]

so peak...

[cinder hearth]

LMAO

[unique warren]

Yeah just looking at the pack it looks fine but ehh

[pulsar cobalt]

dumbass

[tribal isle]

who is this

[unique warren]

Oh fuck off actually

[fathom girder]

stardew valley ass portraits

[unreal shuttle]

makes them uglier actually 🔥

[blazing field]

Ok this one is an l unfortuantely, it is cute art

however

it's not as unhinged now

he dosen't look like he has 72 mental illnesses anymore

he looks like a wise elderly mentor

[unique warren]

The party girl one is neat ig but claiming your textures are "better" than vanilla's is kinda just rude

[blazing field]

which is NOT his character archetype he's a crazy homelessman with magic powers

[tribal isle]

what makes this better

[blazing field]

wizard genuinely one of my favorite vanilla portraits

hes so good

[unique warren]

No fucking clue

[tribal isle]

their eyes are just bigger

[blazing field]

Very boring approach too tbh

[jagged copper]

found a slight problem, DOG really shouldn't be dealing any contact damage here as he kinda gets in the way

[blazing field]

Like my favorite thing about these resource packs is exploring how the characters look in different people'sw artstyles and stuff

[wispy pawn]

Question, did the patch come out?

[blazing field]

thats wahts cool about it!

i get to see people's art!

[jagged copper]

he just ditches his circling a little too early

[blazing field]

trhis is just tiny tweaks to what's already there being labelled as "better"

its pretentious AND boring

[fathom girder]

https://streamable.com/t69ubb I love my movement tech, nitro express rifle

[wispy pawn]

I’m assuming it’s in the announcements but it won’t load

[unique warren]

We have rich mahogany movement at home

[blazing field]

ok this one's good

he looks badass

damn his shimmer ALSO looks badass

[sudden cairn]

holy aura

[unique warren]

Ehhh idk he kinda got flat face

The regular one is badass tho

[fathom girder]

You can't draw lizard man without him being badass in some manner

[blazing field]

ii think its a perspective thing

[tribal isle]

is his shimmer just him without the mask

[blazing field]

hes meant to have like

crocodile snout i think

[unreal shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/pillar-chase-the-mimic-pillar-chase-2-gif-3717115955314808671

[blazing field]

Okay i think that's all of them except for santa claus and blood moon zoologist

Cool resource pack, a bit hit and miss in some spots but it has charm

with that said i'm insired and i'm gonna do a vanilla tier list now

[jagged copper]

I'm thinking his circling movements could be tweaked so his body doesn't interfere with where you go to avoid the beams

[unique warren]

I gotchu

https://tiermaker.com/create/terraria-npc-portaits-19107539

[blazing field]

nice, ty

[tired adder]

the only character that is weaker than Yharon is terrarian without any equipment

[wary crest]

Nah Terrarian could beat yharon with his bare hands

[tired adder]

I guess it does take a lot of time

[sudden cairn]

what 💔

[cinder hearth]

The difference between shimmered golfer and shimmered zoologist is really funny with that texture pack

Zoologist just becomes a girl with fox ears while golfer may as well have become an actual animal with clothes on

[spark kiln]

dawg

[woven frost]

WHAT IS THAT

[sudden cairn]

yharon might be the biggest fraud in terraria

[woven frost]

chicken nugget 🤤

[boreal shore]

is there a changelog for 2.1.1

did they fix brain being broken in multiplayer

[icy stump]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/2.1.1

[boreal shore]

cheers

[mighty geyser]

70% of all mods/resource packs making subjective improvements to a system/asset call themselves "better x" despite it being subjective idk why this ones special

[unique warren]

Ehhhh...?

I don't see that all that often ngl.

[misty wren]

yeah i just searched better on the terraria steam workshop there are 35 pages of resource packs

[blazing field]

It is pretty common but i wont lie,

[mighty geyser]

maybe im just used to the minecraft modding community

[blazing field]

it does hit a bit different when its specifically the character portraits

[main falcon]

I don't wanna abandon the world I made

[misty wren]

yeah it kinda does

[blazing field]

it feels to me much like people remaking other peoples art and saying "look imade it better"

[main falcon]

But wow the sunken sea is kinda fucked up now

[grave rock]

Truth nuke?

[stiff light]

whens sso

[mighty geyser]

true

[blazing field]

anyways heres my shit

[main falcon]

Bunch of pink pillars everywhere

[glad nexus]

did theychange how to obtain terraprisma?

[mighty geyser]

THE DEMON OF BABYLON

[glad nexus]

or can it be still get on treasure bag/

[mighty geyser]

ihnmaims looking ass

[unique warren]

Daytime (thank god)

[grave rock]

Goblin looks like ass i agree

[blazing field]

https://tenor.com/view/savosandsavos-gif-10098754770260943602

truffle

[halcyon seal]

Goblin is secretly genius because they’re making the most hated NPC more hateable

[unique warren]

Goblin looks great, fym???

[blazing field]

its not even because he looks like ass

[main falcon]

Is there anything I can do to quickly remove the missing item textures from the sunkensea

[misty wren]

this is the only kind of "better" mods/resource packs i like

the ones where its just a fucking shitpost

[blazing field]

i just f elt like it was appropriate to have a separate tier specifically for the goblin default portrait

[mighty geyser]

goblin portrait is perfect imo

he looks like a fucking dweeb

[unique warren]

Ok true...

[blazing field]

like this isnt even me saying "i dont like the goblin portrait" i just think it deserves to be in a separate tier at the bottom

[mighty geyser]

which is exactly what he should look like

[blazing field]

i think its mandatory

i actually think its one of th ebest portraits

[misty wren]

goblin portrait is what made me realize he had a tie on

[blazing field]

exactly what octo said

[misty wren]

i thought he had a red tshirt on underneath a lab coat

[blazing field]

i really like shimmer arms dealer because like

its crazy ow 1 change ca give it so much more character

[mighty geyser]

damn yeah that demolitionist looks way too angry

[blazing field]

that being giving him fucking sunglasses

yeah thats my problem with it

demolitonist dosent strike me as a angry guy

hes just crazy

hes joyous if anything

[grave rock]

I actually rly like Arms Dealer hair a lot

[blazing field]

hes joyous in a crazy way

[mighty geyser]

yeah

[blazing field]

as for dryad, i feel like the default blank smile is pretty ehhh for her personality

she clould use a more inteesting facial expression, but

its not that big of a deal

[unique warren]

Yeah Arms Dealer portrait is fun

[blazing field]

it does become a much bigger deal on the fucking evil corrupot dryad though 😭

[mighty geyser]

holy same face syndrome batman

[tired adder]

people despise it because every black guy in media uses it nowadays

[grave rock]

She comes off as more serious than anything in her dialogue (dryad)

[blazing field]

yeah alot of the npcs have same face syndrome, i think they could do much better with some of em

It's fitting for some characters

like

think it makes sense for guide and painter

those would have that sort of facial expression absolutely

[spiral tree]

meow

[blazing field]

but ti comes off as a bit uninspired in others

like, again, dryad

[spiral tree]

what if all npc are just the same person but with different hair and clothes

thats why they look the same :genius:

[hot wadi]

Oh boy, I wonder what changes this thing gets in the Zenith seed

[tired adder]

modded NPCs be like

[grave rock]

If I were to make a stylized portrait resource pack id make the Guide look
Fucked up like just utterly like he came straight outta hell

[blazing field]

Yeah i've seen that sentiment running around and its fair

thoug hi do think in this case its ok bc

1. theres other poc characters with diff hairstyles

[mighty geyser]

5 hours after escaping hell covered in ash and cuts: hey bro you can make an iron swork with 8 bars

[blazing field]

2. that hairstyle in particular feels rly fucking fitting for arms dealer im ngl

[mighty geyser]

yeah

[vestal osprey]

When tmod hits 1.4.5, I hope calamity npc portraits are ready day one

[blazing field]

its a very like

[tired adder]

so just this?

[mighty geyser]

dont even remind me of this

[blazing field]

hot topic hearthrob sorta hairstyle i feel? its very like "im a #cool dude" type thing and like

come on

look at the arms dealer

hes literally like

he was the jock at school

[mighty geyser]

he looks like a skinwalker seconds before tearing me limb from limb

[blazing field]

the demon of babylon

[hot wadi]

what an innocent foreshadowing as to what you gotta do soon

[blazing field]

and also

ill be honest

i,

just really like this sort of character design

[unique warren]

He's simultaneously a doucheback and zesty asf and we love him for that

[blazing field]

i really like Tim Lockwood characters

😭

[unique warren]

Type of mf to- damnit you beat me to it

[mighty geyser]

honestly disagree i dont think hes necessarily the sporty type

[unique warren]

Jock moreso in the stereotypical sense than someone who just does sports imo

[blazing field]

yeah as in like

the popular guy at highschool

[mighty geyser]

ic

then yeah

[blazing field]

honestly arms dealer and wizard are probably, as limtied as terraria npcs are in terms of character, my faovrite vanilla npcs

theyre just fun

like all vanilla npcs are sorta just stereotypes

[fiery plover]

I just saw new DoG rework and just wow
Never thought fabsol-treatmentless calamity bosses will be that cool but I'm glad it happened

[blazing field]

but theyre fun stereotypes

[unique warren]

I like party girl

[blazing field]

honorable mention to the pirate too

but thats just because i like pirates

[mighty geyser]

dementia dialogue

[blazing field]

i just think theyre funny

[unique warren]

I need her in my life bruh

[unique warren]

[blazing field]

out of all the girl npcs i think i like princess and nurse the most

i like that the princess is just a wholesome nice kid

its cute

and #wholesome

[mighty geyser]

i hATE princess (there can be only one

[unique warren]

I find the party girl blood moon thing very funny

[blazing field]

Meanwhile i like that the nurse is just like

[pulsar cobalt]

yea the only princess is ME

[blazing field]

woman in her mid 30s that hates her job

i lovve that archetype.

[unique warren]

True...

But also party girl please notice me,,,

[craggy wagon]

1.4.5 is a miracle because it made me realize the party girl is actually pretty

[mighty geyser]

i like steampunker but she loses IMMENSE points by being british

[prisma bramble]

Did they nerf Master mode death mode or melee is just ez (im at pre wall)

[unique warren]

Wait that one is not updated

[blazing field]

party girl's design is really pretty though i cn't lie

[unique warren]

There we go

[craggy wagon]

i thought she was aussie?

[unique warren]

I believe she is ya