calamity-update-talk

[hidden belfry]

I'm just going to reduce my hp

[old laurel]

I rlly havent played that much ngl

[rough vine]

is dmg calculation bugged or did death mode really get easier

[granite osprey]

nearly 10 minute king slime fight. melee + malice ftw 2x hp

[west glen]

Yea really easy, now legendary malice is even easier than old death

[old laurel]

we been talking ab this for like 30 mins scroll up😭

[granite osprey]

had < 50hp

[rugged gale]

if you're finding death mode too easy, its safe to say you're probably much better than 80% of this mod's playerbase

[granite osprey]

good god

thank you monstrous knives

[old laurel]

I have 500 hrs and most of it is me leaving my pc on overnight, is that a lot

[visual plover]

thats what we talkin about bahaha

[unique warren]

Are y’all just getting antsy that they minimized stat bloat again

[old laurel]

I didnt rlly think it was

[ivory marsh]

I’ve only finished like

Two playthroughs

[old laurel]

yes 100%

[rugged gale]

whuh?

[old laurel]

I WANT MORE STAT BLOAT

[unique warren]

Ah, thanks

[old laurel]

I LOVE STAT BLOAT

[ivory marsh]

Though I only really did my first last year and I just don’t have that much time in college

[visual plover]

gimme more stat bloat!

[rough vine]

i saw someone talking about defense being stronger than expected yesterday so i didn't really know if the difficulty went down or it's just a bug we're taking less damage

[visual plover]

defense is super effective now yeah, im taking 30-40 damage from WOF lasers with victide gear on

[old laurel]

AN ENDGAME ACCESORY SHOULDNT HAVE 6 DEFENSE

ON MY SOUL IT SHOULDNT

[visual plover]

IT SHOULD HAVE 60

[rugged gale]

did they happen to swap from classic to expert or expert to master?

[ivory marsh]

Inf true melee was fun I just wish I experienced it the regular way before but someone challenged me to do it that way

[cerulean shoal]

Stat bloat is fun until it isn't

[old laurel]

NORMALIZE MODS BEING SO FAR OFF FROM VANILLA YOU CANT EVEN RECOGNIZE THE GAME

[visual plover]

im doing stealth only rogue

[rough vine]

not sure

[ivory marsh]

Draedon heart

[unique warren]

Yeah cal has a pretty bad stat bloat problem within it’s difficulties, old master death being notably ridiculous in terms of boss damage and health, so this is a great change as difficulty shifts to difficult attacks and patterns rather than getting hit hard.

[tropic jolt]

bring back calamitas having 10,000,000 health and murasama doing 40k damage or whatever

[old laurel]

if stats keep getting bloated then at some point it wont be bloat

BUFF EVERYTHING

[fading lagoon]

WAS THE IMAGE NEEDED

[old laurel]

AND NERF ALL WEAPONS

[cerulean shoal]

It used to be so bad lmao
Reaper tooth necklace used 100 armor pen

[old laurel]

and thats how it should be😠

[west glen]

YES

[rose laurel]

It sure is great Devs can delete messages!

[unique warren]

It’s not perfect but it’s a step in the right direction and I’m surprised less people see that

[cerulean shoal]

Thank you dev

[ivory marsh]

Draedon

[rugged gale]

?

[ivory marsh]

Don’t worry about it

[old laurel]

I honestly think its a bad step

It made the game too easy

[fading lagoon]

bro was spared the horrors

[rugged gale]

not a guy

[unique warren]

Stat bloat does not equate to good challenge

[cerulean shoal]

Stat bloat was a good thing to avoid

[fading lagoon]

sorry

[rugged gale]

dw

[old laurel]

I agree but neither does nerfing bosses and buffing weapons and damage

[visual plover]

the issue i have is its "Master" (for people who have mastered the game) & "Death" (implying you will die)

[rugged gale]

gender is fecked

[cerulean shoal]

I prefer stat bloat in hp departments rather than damage departments

[tropic jolt]

they nerfed the player in this update too, the boss nerfs were just overdone

[old laurel]

Making the game easier does not equal making it better

[ivory marsh]

Calamity devs can you add a non binary option in character creation

[lusty orchid]

what happening

[rugged gale]

you do realize that a lot of players can struggle with even classic, right?

[cerulean shoal]

Dawg

[unique warren]

The same can be said for the reverse, your point being?

[old laurel]

a lot of mage weapons were buffed like crazy

[lusty orchid]

yo yo

what happened

[deft lily]

i think we should all be friends and frolic through the flowers

[ivory marsh]

No I’m not

[wide nova]

wat happened user

[visual plover]

then they shouldnt play master death, we want master death should be hard

[old laurel]

then they should STAY on that

[tropic jolt]

that's mainly because mage was the weakest class before I think

[lusty orchid]

yo guys chill chill

[deft lily]

hi tyeski

[old laurel]

yo mage was not the weakest class

[wide nova]

u smell

[deft lily]

:(

[tropic jolt]

tyeski are you #evil

[old laurel]

Mage is 2nd strongest calam class

[wide nova]

eya

[deft lily]

my feelwings

[ivory marsh]

Heart and soul

[cerulean shoal]

Mage was the weakest class before yes, not by much but yeah

[rose laurel]

Shit is just getting very hectic and I thought it'd be good to have a Mod around so nothing exploded

[deft lily]

😔

[hard copper]

👃 this smells

[cinder mural]

What did i missed? What image?

[rugged gale]

its more likely you've just gotten much better at the game than you think

[ivory marsh]

Don’t worry bout it

[surreal basin]

can someone explain the blood rain attacks the new brain does? they seem completely unreadable to me

[deft lily]

what happened to cal update talk?
is... she safe?
is... she alright?

[cinder mural]

[old laurel]

if your good at dodging mage is one of the best classes

[fading lagoon]

Don't worry bout it

[rugged gale]

rather than master death being easy

[tropic jolt]

cut was cut ✂️

[cinder mural]

Aight

[old laurel]

No I promise master death is easy

[wide nova]

this message reeks

[visual plover]

no i know, im good, but the pre-update master death was hard, and now its easy as fuck

[deft lily]

explode

[unique warren]

“I want stat bloat so my game can be hard!” vs “I want properly tuned stats with higher difficulties adding challenging and engaging fights” is the conversation here I’d say

[old laurel]

Im terrible at the game

[wide nova]

u just proved my poihnt

[deft lily]

:(

[old laurel]

I couldnt solo slime god in 10 attempts now I can do it 1st try while taking like no damage

[obtuse hawk]

thank god brainstorm update added The Fungus™

[visual plover]

ive got 1000 hours in calamity with assorted playthroughs, mods, arbitrary difficulties

[lusty orchid]

wait

so whats the issue

[visual plover]

death is easy af

[lusty orchid]

wait

i js read nm

nvm

[visual plover]

it used to be hard

[ivory marsh]

I think if calamity had the difficulty slider that journey mode has it could work

[rough vine]

i still think death could be at least a bit harder than how it is rn because last time i touched calamity i was still struggling with expert death (though i'm not sure how significant the debloating was)

[unique warren]

It’s a change that needed to be made to facilitate well designed fights.

[old laurel]

I have half that and even I can agree

[deft lily]

someone's mad abt cal nerfing bosses i think?

[lusty orchid]

oh oh ok ok

no worries

[rugged gale]

i do want stat scaling to be more in line with vanilla's scaling, but other than that, im more than fine with taking 300+ damage from a hit

[lusty orchid]

ill watch

[cerulean shoal]

Because you have 1000 hours

[rose laurel]

[hard copper]

it seems, in your stench, you killed her

[old laurel]

fights can be hard AND well designed

[amber fern]

what may be easy to you, may not be for others.

[lusty orchid]

just make sure its respectful guys

[deft lily]

insert darth vader screaming "no" gif here

[visual plover]

last playthrough was challenging! now it isnt

thats the issue

[old laurel]

then my point is why dont they js stay on revengeance

[unique warren]

Yeah no shit buddy 😭 they can be hard, well designed, and not have stat bloat too

[deft lily]

-# since i dont have gif perms goddamnit

[ivory marsh]

Like I like having separate modes but since people can’t agree on how hard they want death to be why not make a difficulty slider like journey mode so people can choose

[tropic jolt]

boss damage is definitely a bit undertuned right now

[old laurel]

then why are they insanely easy

[unique warren]

In fact, a well designed boss will inherently lack stat bloat

[old laurel]

best idea ever

[rugged gale]

especially since damage and defense are relative to each other

[unique warren]

To necessitate later reworks

[ivory marsh]

Should I put it in suggestions

[amber fern]

i mean at that point its their own fault. Am i teh best player? Absolutely not, death mode been rattling me around. still find it fun tho

[old laurel]

YES

[amber fern]

now infernum... yea i aint touching that with a 10 foot pole

[rugged gale]

hence why all of the defense accessories got nerfed to compensate, and why warding doesnt scale anymore

[arctic cliff]

huh?

[ivory marsh]

Remind me in 5 minutes I gotta go back to my dorm

[unique warren]

Just play journey then

[old laurel]

well ig its a problem thats hard to solve

[tropic jolt]

I can't believe big clamity wont bless us patreons with embed perms

[old laurel]

at the end of the day you cant cater to everyones skill level

[rugged gale]

i used to be the same

[tropic jolt]

I believe there are damage and health sliders in the configs, no?

[unique warren]

Especially since you seem to want slop

[amber fern]

yeeee, i do believe someone could make a mod with revengeance stats but master AI and that would be sick

[deft lily]

this is discrimination based on money.................................................................

[lusty orchid]

yeah

[rose laurel]

Why are you guys arguing about the most subjective shit ever?

[cerulean shoal]

This

[wide nova]

skill issue

they mad they bad

[old laurel]

I dont want slop I want a challenge, are dark souls games slop? I personally dont think so, but they are challenging

[wide nova]

💔

[rugged gale]

you'll get there in time, but it will take a lot of failures to get there (as i've found the hard way)

[unique warren]

Because people argue about subjective things?

[old laurel]

only health

[dull heart]

ultimately

[deft lily]

billions must learn to like each other

[rugged gale]

infernum was an awesomely brutal challenge

[amber fern]

theres just a point where its not fun for me ig. like revengeance/death is the perfect mix of both

[rose laurel]

Yeah I just think it's funny to go

[hasty hornet]

it seems like the void eater marionette is bugged? you can't summon it

[dull heart]

there's just a very limited amount of difficulties

[tropic jolt]

I think we need demon spider mode in calamity

[dull heart]

are you in multiplayer

[hasty hornet]

yes

[rose laurel]

"The game is too easy"
"No it isn't"
"Yes it is"
"No it isn't"

[amber fern]

but again, das just a personal thing for me. idc if yall play on classic for all i care

[wide nova]

we need malice and then malice two

[deft lily]

i think we need to add john calamity to calamity

[lusty orchid]

its really

just subjective

[dull heart]

do any other summons/projectiles work right now

[unique warren]

They’re challenging and well designed, which calamity has only had one of at a time, actually only the former, never the latter until now

[lusty orchid]

and people need to understan d

[cerulean shoal]

Infernum was peak except for like 2-3 fights, but other than that it was amazing

[lusty orchid]

if its to oeasy stop complaining so much like

[amber fern]

💀 malice 2

[lusty orchid]

play touhou

[amber fern]

id need 50 extra accessory slots to live

[lusty orchid]

if u want bullet hell

[rugged gale]

her name is calamitas

[hasty hornet]

kalandra, yaron staff, lilies all work

[unique warren]

Yes that is what an opinion is. We’re discussing our opinions

[deft lily]

yharim

[dull heart]

try leaving and rejoining the world and see if it fixes it

[old laurel]

But for now only the difficulty has changed

[wide nova]

i think hive mind is a good fight

[hard copper]

Just make the game more difficult with your own self imposed challenge, like no healing potions or smth

[wide nova]

or a fun one at least

[hasty hornet]

i've done that and the host has tried restarting the world

[dull heart]

running into Burrower sometimes breaks projectiles

ah

[tropic jolt]

death sentence

[unique warren]

Terry stays goated

[dull heart]

make a bug report then in #1052323733961977947

with lgos

[rugged gale]

hes (sorta) in the game now (title background has him now)

[wide nova]

its my favorite boss in tmod so im biased

[dull heart]

logs*

[deft lily]

grrr i hate corruption grrr

[hasty hornet]

ok ty

[rugged gale]

but yeah he's going to be a lot of work

[dull heart]

i've not had it not work in multiplayer so idk

[deft lily]

i love crimson yay i love it

[rugged gale]

most likely

[old laurel]

I still stand by the fact that revengeance should be for players that arent as good

[deft lily]

(i never play corruption)

[tropic jolt]

corruption sleeper agents are attempting to sabotage brainstorm !

[old laurel]

and death should be more of a challenge

[rugged gale]

blasphemy.

[old laurel]

I love brainstorm

[unique warren]

This is just straight up you being rude 😭

[wide nova]

i never play crimson

so brainstorm is cool

[deft lily]

the WOKE corruption mob are filthy ANIMALS

[fading lagoon]

(same)

[rugged gale]

same

[old laurel]

how??

[tropic jolt]

I say with my glowing purple name

[amber fern]

exactly. Whether you make it a challenge or just a "i want to have fun on calamity" run. both are fair, just all about how the individual is.

[cerulean shoal]

Revengence is supposed to be the intended calamity experience.

[wide nova]

i want a purple name

[old laurel]

thats like saying an easy mode on a game is "rude"

[rugged gale]

woke or broke

[tropic jolt]

im downgrading to brimstone to support brain of cthulhu

[wide nova]

the struggles of being a stupid toothpaste role

[old laurel]

yes so death should be more distinct, and challenging compared to revengeance

[wide nova]

color

[tropic jolt]

ha ha!

[unique warren]

Just because you can do death doesn’t mean revengeance is “easy”

[rancid pagoda]

but Revengeance is not the easy mode?

[unique warren]

That’s just telling me you don’t have a clue about the average skill level of a terraria player 😭

[amber fern]

need some popcorn for this

[deft lily]

the easiest mode in cal is literally just Journey Mode, just like vanilla terraria

[old laurel]

Idk maybe I dont know the avg skill lvl

[cerulean shoal]

Revengence to death shouldn't be a gigantic leap

[rugged gale]

almost certainly not

[unique warren]

Clearly.

[rugged gale]

check global achievement data

[old laurel]

But I mean js get better

[amber fern]

i mean look at the overall average gaming level, its not that impressive

[gloomy grove]

ignorant view on things i think

[deft lily]

hi fryzahh

[old laurel]

prob

[urban cloak]

both difficulty modes will be continuously updated to suit their skill requirements and yes death will be harder than revengeance
if you find them easy right now it is probably because you're just good at the game and we only updated a whopping 2 bosses out of like 40+

[rancid pagoda]

regular Expert should be the "easy mode" (ignoring classic for having no boss bags and worse loot in general)

[rugged gale]

less than a third of players make it past plantera

[urban cloak]

end of argument thank you 😊

[cerulean shoal]

The dunnin Kruger effect or whatever it's called. Experts tend to subconsciously believe that everyone else is at their level

[rugged gale]

and only a quarter make it past moon lord

[sudden cairn]

this

[unique warren]

Increasing stats and doing fuck all else is a sign of a bad difficulty increase and cal had that issue for far too long

[tropic jolt]

😵

[old laurel]

I am NOT an expert

I have done like max 3 full playthroughs

[visual plover]

only reason i was asking is cause i thought it might be bugged in muliplayer, since it feels too easy to me as someone who has played alot of death, if it isnt bugged and it is intentional then ill head back to infernum bahaha

[sudden cairn]

well neither most of us are

[rugged gale]

imposter syndrome?

[rugged gale]

from start to Scal and exos?

[old laurel]

Yes

[urban cloak]

there was a lot of rebalancing this update which flattened the power curve a bit, that might be contributing

[unique warren]

True, it’s hard to do the stat deflation which the mod desperately needs when 90% of the bosses are kinda not designed well at all

[rugged gale]

holy shit

[cerulean shoal]

A lot of us suffer from imposter syndrome

[rugged gale]

well done

[unique warren]

I think it’s hard for people to see that the mod is still such a work in progress

[old laurel]

Ig thats true

mb devs for being picky

[urban cloak]

some of the more egregious difficulty additions from bountiful harvest also got reverted if you got used to those i.e skeletron prime

[rugged gale]

i've played terraria since 2014, and i've still never beaten SCal

[old laurel]

I actually loved brain storm'

[visual plover]

yeh, ill see how hardmode goes, only just beaten WOF so far, ill finish this run and see how it feels! im having a fantastic time with the updated weapons and the new sunken sea is gorgeous

[rugged gale]

i've never even fought exos

[unique warren]

At least from what I have picked up based on what devs have said, only half measure fixes can be done for some of this shit

[sudden cairn]

fun fact i just fought them today as my first time

[unique warren]

At least until they can fully rework stuff but that takes a long long time

[rugged gale]

nice

[unique warren]

But also I could be talking out of my ass

[cerulean shoal]

I've done at least 5-7 playthroughs from start to scal, 2 being infernum. I know I'm better than most players but I still doubt my abilities

[sudden cairn]

true

[old laurel]

well I mean try it after the upd you prob can now

[rugged gale]

i've run through prehardmode dozens of times, but a lot of my runs end at wall (mostly cuz he's a pain to arena build for)

[cerulean shoal]

Oh my god yeah skele prime was the most bad shit insane fight I've ever seen

[sudden cairn]

THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING

[cerulean shoal]

I straight up gave up for a while because of that

[old laurel]

Im not saying I am a master pro gamer at old death, I am saying that I DID struggle, but in my personal experience that made the game fun

[rugged gale]

given that i've gone to post-dog on eternity-death, i think i'll be fine

[pseudo vector]

i don’t think we’ll have anything quite as dreadful as that ever again lol

[cerulean shoal]

Master death needed to be balanced.

[unique warren]

Calamity 2.1 just isn’t really smth akin to… Souls Mod’s upcoming 2.0 update which will practically make it a perfect mod from what I have experienced of it mostly because Souls is already in a WAY better spot than Cal

[sudden cairn]

fym a machine can summon spirit skulls that have the precision of a (MC) bedrock skeleton

[old laurel]

I agree somewhat, what im saying is I believe it went a little too far

[unique warren]

It’s a fantastic update that doesn’t quite fix everything

[old laurel]

But in the future I am sure death will be a lot better and different from rev

[blazing field]

FArgo's is also just a much smaller mod isn't it

[pseudo vector]

as we apply new design philosophies across the board things will make more sense than they currently do

[blazing field]

MAybe i'm wrong i dont know much abt it

[rugged gale]

the only real issue i have with souls is that mutant is a dependency, and it adds a bunch of boring "qol" npcs that do nothing but sell random shit to you

[cerulean shoal]

I remember that playthrough where I was struggling with twins, then destroyer, then thought "ig I'll do skeletron prime since he's usually the easiest for me, wonder what he'll be like for this update..."

[still bluff]

Fargo's is a solid bit smaller than cal, but that's because cal's bloated and not because fargos is a small mod lol

[amber fern]

ive only seen clips of souls mod, and unless some of that stuff changes in 2.0 im not playing lol.

Looked stupid intense

[rugged gale]

souls is honestly fricking huge

[urban cloak]

souls is a big mod yeah cal is just like too big

[obtuse hawk]

wait so how difficult was skeleprime in bountiful harvest if you could put it on a scale of 1-10

[pseudo vector]

rn things may not make the most sense but they’ll make more sense later on as we continue to improve calamity

[sudden cairn]

didnt souls have that one long ahh recipe

[rugged gale]

look at the recipe for soul of eternity if you want to experience vertigo

[tropic jolt]

what is a 10 in this scenario?

[rugged gale]

soul of eternity yeah

[obtuse hawk]

fuck i didnt think that through

[sudden cairn]

10

[obtuse hawk]

uhhhhhhhhh

[tropic jolt]

compared to the average calamity boss definitely a 9 or 10 easily

[unique warren]

Maybe so? But also, the current state of Souls Mod reflects the team’s ideas for the mod pretty well alr and 2.0 is just making that idea all the more clear, whereas pre-2.1 cal (and please do correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure I’m not) does not reflect what the devs want at all

[rugged gale]

lets go with THE LORDE maybe?

[hasty hornet]

i don't spose you have an estimate on how long it should take to find the issue?

[cerulean shoal]

So bad that I just gave up, last time I gave up was when I tried doing infernum DoG (nearly 500 attempts)

[dull heart]

no clue

[sudden cairn]

skele prime on his prime was moving like prime king von and could go on par with the exo mechs

[hasty hornet]

ty tho

[pseudo vector]

if y’all were to grade death mode dog from 1-10 in difficulty where would you put it

i’m curious

[gloomy grove]

doze i need my collection of shroombles to be in terrariums

[cerulean shoal]

Anyways gn yall

[tropic jolt]

but what is a 10 in difficulty 😭

[old laurel]

7.5

[rugged gale]

THE LORDE

[unique warren]

👋

[rugged gale]

obviously

[pseudo vector]

idk what a good metric for 10 would be ngl

[obtuse hawk]

yeah i'd say 10 in difficulty is like comically difficult

[unique warren]

Like I deadass cannot imagine what cal devs are going through bruh 😭 shit gotta be hellish

[obtuse hawk]

like borderline nonsensical

[rugged gale]

hence THE LORDE

[old laurel]

death dog is like a 7.5

[sudden cairn]

couldnt try it pre update but i gotta admit this rework was so much fun

[cerulean shoal]

Also why worst color scheme from the fusion suits? Colors just clash so much

I love the fusion suit tho

[unique warren]

You fucking take that back right now

[urban cloak]

basically yeah
cal is in a unique spot where its team has switched around numerous times and thus the mod's vision has shifted with multiple times as well

[blazing field]

haha melon

[cerulean shoal]

But varia fusion just clash way too hard

[blazing field]

melon samus. haha

[urban cloak]

2.1 should hopefully be the start of a stable period unless some horrible fucking event happens and we all die or something

[dull heart]

death mode diffiuclty is so weird

[unique warren]

literally best suit in the series but go off

[dull heart]

mostly bc we haven't done most of the bosses

[old laurel]

I trust that eventually death mode will regain diificulty and distinction

[blazing field]

i'll deploy 200 rats at calamity headquarters and order them to eat calamity

mod gone

[dull heart]

and because overall 2.1 kinda had huge powercreep on accident

[ivory marsh]

They said no 💔

[urban cloak]

😨

we gotta relocate...

[unique warren]

I’d say 10 in any reasonable discussion would be like, the hardest boss that’s actually fair or fun, so maybe stuff like Maso mutant or Abom?

[old laurel]

yall lowk buffed the frigid flash bolt TOO much

it's like amazing now

[obtuse hawk]

yea

[ivory marsh]

What exactly are all the changes between rev and death?

[tropic jolt]

yeah id say 7/10 difficulty is probably accurate for death dog, I find the fight pretty easy but it definitely picks up a lot in intensity as the fight goes on

[obtuse hawk]

again i wasn't specific with the scale so i apologize

[dull heart]

master stats + ai changes

[pseudo vector]

sounds reasonable

[ivory marsh]

I just learned that it DOESNT work like master and expertise

[ivory marsh]

Wait so it does

[cerulean shoal]

I love metroid fusion. But the color scheme does a very bad job especially when in game n stuff

[dull heart]

malice dog

[ivory marsh]

Wait

[unique warren]

Like, can y’all think of a boss harder than Maso mutant that isn’t just unfair cause I can’t

[ivory marsh]

Huh

[unique warren]

Take that back…

[pseudo vector]

malice dog is probably like a 9/10 in difficulty

[marble forum]

holy shit, DoG is actually fun now

[dull heart]

malice dog is easily the hardest fight i've ever played that felt fair

[old laurel]

The visual reworks are sick for DoG

[pseudo vector]

harder than infernum for sure

[old laurel]

pre upd death exo mechs were my worst boss

[unique warren]

Well that’s for the worthy, it’s only well designed if it is bullshit

[cerulean shoal]

Yellow Green and pink just don't do well on such little pixels. They are fine on more upscaled art but like

[dull heart]

no

[urban cloak]

:D

[pseudo vector]

infernum dog is around an 8.5/10 in difficulty for me personally

[dull heart]

malice dog is genuinely like, fair despite the insane difficulty

[old laurel]

DoG might be the coolest looking boss itg rn

[dull heart]

did you end up fighting it after doing infernum dog today?

[unique warren]

Yeah I see what you mean but FtW’s point is kinda just no fun allowed tbh, interesting to see that cal may not go that way outside of GFB?

[rugged gale]

so is sword saint isshin

[tropic jolt]

infernum dog is a bit tricky to rank because hes one of the most consistent bosses, once you master the fight once you'll probably never struggle on him again

[rugged gale]

just because a fight is fair doesnt make it not bullshit

[cerulean shoal]

My personal hardest boss is infernum DoG, have yet to do the fight the intended way, I've cheesed it using fall speed

[pseudo vector]

no, i need to make a proper arena on my malice world

[marble forum]

Nameless Diety felt like a good balance for difficulty

[pseudo vector]

after that i’ll give it a chance

[rugged gale]

to note that's "bullshit (affectionate)"

[pseudo vector]

nameless deity is like uhhhh

7.5/10 difficulty wise

[tropic jolt]

but when battling him for the first time hes usually the most attempt inflating boss in infernum

[unique warren]

Honestly I’m just waiting to fight mutant in my 2.0 playthrough even if it isn’t finished

[cerulean shoal]

I will always hard glaze scal

No matter what

[marble forum]

well I personally enjoyed its difficulty, but I'm bad at the game so 🤷‍♂️

[tropic jolt]

some of those revamped attacks look crazy 🥶

[cerulean shoal]

Okay I'm goin to bed now fr this time

[pseudo vector]

avatar is a 5.5 to a 6/10 on that same difficulty scale

[old laurel]

DEVS

[unique warren]

I know that shit is gonna be some fuckin peak, the reworks for the two vanilla bosses I’ve fought in 2.0 so far are actually incredible

[old laurel]

are yall ever gonna add new whips

we rlly need some

[pseudo vector]

eventually yes

[rugged gale]

there's a reason dash and broom are hard requires for most of my runs, and its him

[obtuse hawk]

idk where I'd place Rev+ BoC on the scale but as I said before that was a REALLY fun fight imo

[unique warren]

Yeah it’s such an upgrade for what ive played thus far but that’s rlly all I can say

[old laurel]

YES❤️‍🩹

[pseudo vector]

we will get around to new whips at some time in the future

[unique warren]

Isn’t that future just SSO

[rugged gale]

[tropic jolt]

can't believe hes going to have us playing flappy bird

[old laurel]

Also lowk some new ranger ammo

[unique warren]

To be fair, Abominationn alr does that in current

[rugged gale]

frigidflash is so fun to use

[unique warren]

Sort of.

[old laurel]

its so good now

I love using it

[rugged gale]

also maybe a bit overpowered?

[old laurel]

VERY

[twin ingot]

Use star cross rye with it 😄

[rugged gale]

i plan to

[regal vessel]

yo how rare is cloud elemental

[rugged gale]

its star beam though btw

[regal vessel]

ive been waiting in space while its raining for 5 minutes and havent got a spawn

[twin ingot]

zang

[old laurel]

I lowk want a starfury rework and nobody ever says it

[unique warren]

Idk if cal is allowed to do that tbh

[regal vessel]

nvm son just got the cloud baddie

[old laurel]

idk either tbh

[rugged gale]

star beam rye makes me want to make a space pearlwood plantation up in my future space base (made from draedon's old space lab)

[unique warren]

Like I mean ofc nothing is entirely off the table unless impossible but I doubt they’d do vanilla weapon reworks.

[rugged gale]

that's something for roots to do

[old laurel]

also I am a huge fan of the old lord claymore rework

I love it

[tropic jolt]

with the shifting in design philosophy it seems they want to keep vanilla as vanilla where they can

[old laurel]

Might js have to do another melee playthrough

[unique warren]

Yeah, even like, Souls doesn’t change stuff THAT much, just adding extra effects to the really really fucking boring weapons

[rugged gale]

im kinda sad it lost the mobility effects (also confused as to why bladecrest is basically a rogue weapon now)

i dont think it counts as a sword if you throw it

[old laurel]

Not a fan of bladecrest rework, but I love the base weapon of the claymore

[unique warren]

This is maybe because it is not counted as a sword actually

[old laurel]

It is so good even without the mobility

the only rework I hate is the flarebolt

it sucks so bad now

it needs a buff ngl

[rugged gale]

despite being called the bladecrest oathsword

[unique warren]

Like you’re right on the money here, it’s just not a broadsword lol

[rugged gale]

the feck you mean

flare bolt's busted

[old laurel]

its js rlly bad now ngl

[rugged gale]

i tore slime god to shreds with that thing

[old laurel]

too short of range and its super slow

prob cuz slime god js sits there

and takes attacks

[rugged gale]

just need to get better at prediction really

[fading lagoon]

it can cook AS if u wanna do it prehardmode tho

[unique warren]

And many ranger Others have the word gun in them

[old laurel]

isnt death valley duster better now?

[rugged gale]

its second only to night's ray in prehardmode imo

[old laurel]

didnt it get a rework too

[unique warren]

Moreso in vanilla than cal but my point still stands

[old laurel]

or was it js visual

[old laurel]

Hellwing is literally better in every way besides not being able to attack above you very well

[unique warren]

Did you do boss testing for this

[rugged gale]

hellwing is a ranged weapon

[old laurel]

hellwing staff

[summer cape]

is calamity on 1.4.5 yet or nah

[old laurel]

is a mage weapon

[rugged gale]

oh that's a thing right

[hasty tangle]

no

[summer cape]

tyty

[sudden cairn]

no mod is on 1.4.5

[old laurel]

Also black anurian is still the best mage weapon pre hardmode

[rugged gale]

honestly though it doesnt really seem that much better?

[sudden cairn]

not even tmodloader is 1.4.5

[old laurel]

its amazing

[rugged gale]

for most bosses yeah

[unique warren]

Again, did you do boss testing?

[old laurel]

nah ts is js my opinion I have NO evidence behind it

ngl

[unique warren]

[rugged gale]

but it doesnt seem to have pierce

[tropic jolt]

☠️

[old laurel]

lowk doesnt need it

[lusty orchid]

hi

[old laurel]

it does so much damage and homes

[rugged gale]

it'll also get eaten by the hungry and lose a bucnh of its damage

[old laurel]

It def lacks against wall

I used aqua scepter and the eldritch tome for wall

with a tiny bit of pulse pistol mixed in there

[rugged gale]

aqua scepter???

[old laurel]

yeah weapon from dungeon chests

suprisingly super good against the last phase of wall

where the eyes are circling

[rugged gale]

just shoot the mouth

[old laurel]

oh ngl didnt even know you could do that in that phase

[rugged gale]

bruh

[old laurel]

told you im not a pro

[unique warren]

It is arguably the best mage wall weapon in vanilla so that is not at all crazy

[old laurel]

fr

[twin mural]

alright i just beat BoC

[old laurel]

Nice

[twin mural]

i think i did it with the worst setup possible

[old laurel]

Still lowk proving my point that at this current state in time calamity is a litttttlllee bit too easy

[unique warren]

It’s post-release without a Hotfix out iirc

Yeah it takes some time to iron things out

[old laurel]

"at this current state in time" never said they couldnt fix stuff

[unique warren]

True but still, just set your expectations right

And focus on the PEAK reworks

[twin mural]

weapons: Tendon Bow + Jester arrows and Boomstick + silver bullets

[old laurel]

Ik the upd was super good

im js impatient

[unique warren]

I think the best changes were True Melee weapons even if there is a noticeable lack in size variety between them

[ivory marsh]

WE READY FOR EXO MECHS

[old laurel]

Nah I think the best changes were the three bolts

[twin mural]

lol

[old laurel]

frost flare and frigid flash

[unique warren]

Like, almost all of them are around 10 tile range

Until you get to Earth which is 28 tiles

[ripe bone]

Oye no nada

[old laurel]

they all feel so much more unique and fun to use

[twin mural]

que

[unique warren]

Alr

[cinder mural]

are we even allowed to speak other languages that aren't english?

[ripe bone]

Xd

[orchid finch]

@twin mural @ripe bone keep it English please

[ripe bone]

Idk bro just ignore

Xd

Ok

[unique warren]

That would be a no- yeah what they said

[regal vessel]

why is the murasama being glazed so heavily

[twin mural]

now fr

was that a bad setup

from 1 to 10

[unique warren]

Why wouldn’t it be

[ripe bone]

6

[old laurel]

its such a mid tier weapon for when you get it

[gloomy grove]

moments and "aura"

[old laurel]

many other weapons are js better

[regal vessel]

like seriously what the hell, no other melee weapon has been glazed so much

[unique warren]

It’s just a bunch of good vanilla accessories and a couple decent cal ones

[ripe bone]

You can actually make wings in pre hard

[unique warren]

Have you played MGRR

Do you know what Revengeance mode is named after

[twin mural]

that requires beating perforators

[ripe bone]

Nop

[old laurel]

Do yall know if infernum is rlly that bad in mp?

Or is it good

[unique warren]

Infernum is really bad

[old laurel]

damn

[regal vessel]

i know its a ref to mgrr but i dont get why murasama is getting upgrades 3 special abilties and over a hundred reskins for it

[twin mural]

it is balanced around singleplayer so

[unique warren]

Nah I ain’t ever played it I’m just saying shit

[twin mural]

i think it wont be as difficult as you would expect

[ripe bone]

Fledgling wings

[unique warren]

Because it’s by far the most iconic item from the mod?

[ripe bone]

@twin mural

[unique warren]

Like, by a good margin too

[twin mural]

those arent craftable as far as i am aware

[ripe bone]

Wait what

Really?

[old laurel]

I think the boss nerf would've been better if they nerfed a majority of the rlly good weapons

[twin mural]

at least in vanilla

[old laurel]

because you can js shred bosses now

[twin mural]

wait

it does have recipe in calamity

[unique warren]

Unless they just added a recipe this update, not for cal either

Guh

[twin mural]

[unique warren]

Fuck I missed it

[twin mural]

and i know its not from another mod bc it requires a calamity material

[dull heart]

The recipe is not from 2.1

Its older

[unique warren]

Nah I know

[rugged gale]

OKAY I DIDNT KNOW ASTRUM DEUS IS PRE-MECH AMAZING

[old laurel]

it aint

am I tweaking

its pre ml

[rugged gale]

i just summoned it with titan heart

[dull heart]

Its doable pre mech but balanced post cultist

[grand mirage]

I mean you can certainly attempt it pre mech

[old laurel]

ohhhhh yeah ig

[cinder mural]

aight

[rugged gale]

i didnt expect it to work though

[unique warren]

Wouldn’t it probably just be about as hard as pre-mech Duke

Or pre-mech EoL

[old laurel]

Frigid flash is def finna catch a nerf soon I think

[rugged gale]

and well astral ore is still useless until cultist but still

i can get star shower this early

[dull heart]

Actually

I think we moved it to mythril anvil

Idr tho

[rugged gale]

its still on ancient manipulator, i checked recipe browser

[unique warren]

Deific amulet at least has use

[dull heart]

why was that reverted

Agh

[old laurel]

yall should lock all hardmode ores behind Plantera

[unique warren]

I know deific amulet has tinkerer crafting…?

[rugged gale]

it would be possible to make without anvil, if it werent for the fact astral bars need manipulator to craft

[old laurel]

are there plans for more ranger ammo play roots

[visual plover]

talked to my friend, we just gonna triple the boss hp @old laurel to make death difficult again xd

[lusty orchid]

death rlly isnt that bad

[unique warren]

Yeah y’all just being weird abt this atp

[visual plover]

im sure it isnt for the average player, and 95% of people will find the changes more accessible and fun

[ripe bone]

Calamity >>> Calamity Mod

[radiant sparrow]

OOOOOUGH

[visual plover]

im loving every change other than the difficulty, the graphics, sounds, sunken sea, new weapon changes

all so good

:D

[rose laurel]

Thanks!

[lusty orchid]

so basically most the update

[rose laurel]

I'm glad to hear :D

[radiant sparrow]

those holy orbs fucking hurt

[ripe bone]

Xd

[lusty orchid]

me when i complain for no reason

[radiant sparrow]

32 degree heat and fucking sweating against the fire god boss like fuaark

[ripe bone]

E e e e e e

[lusty orchid]

are u in aus

[radiant sparrow]

yea

[lusty orchid]

LMAO i saw it was 32 and said nah im not going out

[radiant sparrow]

i just went out for a burger and chips

[visual plover]

yeh it's 33 and humid af

hating it

[visual plover]

im super happy with the update, I was only in here cause I thought it might've been bugged

but since it's intentional im adding my own arbitrary difficulty cause me and my friend have got no life

[lusty orchid]

u should play

touhou i think thats ur game lmao

[visual plover]

I have quite a bit actually!

[radiant sparrow]

i havent used the relocater in so fucking long man, im so bad with it now

[visual plover]

void rains upon her heart is another really fun touhou-like

it's gorgeous

one man dev and SO much content

[lusty orchid]

ill keep that in mind

[twin mural]

damn i suck

[old laurel]

twin

[old laurel]

death or rev

[twin mural]

death

[old laurel]

did u play death pre upd?

[twin mural]

yes (expert death)

thisis after update

[old laurel]

oh dang

[visual plover]

theres 50 bosses each with 9 unique levels of difficulty, all hand made sequences

[kind oyster]

Why was so much content removed this update, seems to me to be a bit too much for just bloat and quality control

[rugged gale]

how the heck did you get hit 42 times and not die??

[twin mural]

i dont know

[old laurel]

They kinda js started from a fresh slate is what this upd was pretty sure

[visual plover]

damage numbers feel super low

[old laurel]

Bosses def need to deal more damage

[rugged gale]

enemy damage got nerfed to compensate for the defense nerfs on players

[radiant sparrow]

fucking chud goddess is dead

[old laurel]

I shouldnt be takin 30 damage per hit from slime god as a mage with no warding

[visual plover]

yeh defense feels way too strong though

[radiant sparrow]

now to do night mode

[visual plover]

30 damage from WOF with victide gear

[old laurel]

not that defense got buffed, it got nerfed actually. bosses js deal wayyyyyy less damage

[rugged gale]

tbf that is how it is in vanilla master mode, and that is what armor damage is meant to deal with, but yeah

[old laurel]

honestly not a huge fan of them making it closer to vanilla]

calamity used to feel like a whole new game

[rugged gale]

face tanking moon lord so hard you can kill him with a fecking lawnmower

and from what others have said, it gets much worse in post-ml

[old laurel]

If I rlly wanted a close to vanilla experience, I would js play vanilla tbh

[visual plover]

wof does 22-30 base damage in normal terraria, i had 28 armor, which should be 16 damage taken, but it was death mode so im not sure how much damage he should be

[idle spindle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Terraria/s/4VZtmPwW09 chat is this real

[old laurel]

yh from what I've heard

[rugged gale]

what was the damage source?

[idle spindle]

Wtf

Big

[visual plover]

laser from WOF

taking 30 damage

[old laurel]

I'll always miss those 30 attempt runs on skeletron pre upd

forever in my mind

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

[rugged gale]

laser deals 90 base damage on death

[old laurel]

Nah it was legit doing like 30 to me

[rich ginkgo]

that screenshot is directly from the terraria forum lol

the changelog

you can even go see yourself

[idle spindle]

Im literally on the floor crying rn

[visual plover]

yeh thats why it feels bugged, it was doing 30 damage, with 28 armor

[idle spindle]

It's so peak

[rugged gale]

yeah that might be a bug

[visual plover]

so it should be doing 76

[rugged gale]

it was dealing something like 40 to me with 46 defense though so

[old laurel]

This upd would be a 10/10 if it wasnt for one reason

the difficulty

[rich ginkgo]

i havent played yet, what's wrong with the difficulty

[rugged gale]

this is the 5th time you've yapped about this

[visual plover]

this is multiplayer so im wondering if MP is bugged

[old laurel]

Ik im js so passionate ab it

[rugged gale]

probably

[visual plover]

we will see :)

[old laurel]

it's like REALLY easy

[rich ginkgo]

did they not attempt to make the mods difficulty similar to vanillas by nerfing boss stats but nerfing gear along with that?

[rugged gale]

mods tend to not like multiplayer

[rich ginkgo]

oh you meant in that way

[rugged gale]

they did

[rich ginkgo]

even on death mode?

how easy is it

[old laurel]

yes

so easy

[rugged gale]

though early game those enemy nerfs hit a lot harder

for them

[old laurel]

like pre update revengeance divided by 2

[rugged gale]

not for you

[rich ginkgo]

that's a little disappointing to hear

[rugged gale]

how far are you into the run so far?

[rich ginkgo]

but i heard a hotfix is coming out soon so maybe they'll make the harder difficulties more challenging as intended

[old laurel]

Im in early hard mode and havent not 1st try every boss with barely any damage taken and bad gear

[real forge]

Wth terraria has now dash keybinding

[rugged gale]

okay so still in the easy parts

[rich ginkgo]

im not planning on playing until the next couple of patches anyways when everything is optimized

[old laurel]

might be false havent heard any news ab that

[rich ginkgo]

no im like 99% sure cdmusic said it themselves

[old laurel]

all I've heard is that they plan on making death more "distinct" from rev

[rich ginkgo]

hold on ill find it

[old laurel]

Rlly?

[unique warren]

I would wait until you play it for yourself.

[rugged gale]

prehardmode is definitely way too easy, but again, might be a bit early to call it easy overall

[rich ginkgo]

.

[old laurel]

yeah at the end of the day maybe im js a pro gamer insane terraria player

[unique warren]

Though, cal bosses are almost always easy considering you just run away from half of em and be fine

[old laurel]

that took 30 attempts to beat exo mechs

[visual plover]

im yet to not first try a boss ehe

[rugged gale]

not bad at all

[visual plover]

gotta see how hard mode is

[wispy pawn]

has anyone else done multiplayer for the new update and do yalls worlds just delete awhile after making them?

[old laurel]

That is TERRIBLE

Nah

[visual plover]

stealth only rouge

[unique warren]

30 attempts is pretty standard yeah?

Like, that’s a normal amount for a reasonably difficult boss

[old laurel]

more like 15-20

[unique warren]

Yeah that is also standard ye

[rich ginkgo]

i first tried exos on my first ever playthrough

took me like 100+ attempts to beat scal tho

[old laurel]

yo HOW

[unique warren]

Extremely simple explanation

[rich ginkgo]

rungod lol

exos are so mediocre

[old laurel]

yeah your def finna find this upd way too easy

[unique warren]

You have to actually engage with scal

[rich ginkgo]

true

that's pretty much it

[old laurel]

I beat scal in like 5 attempts my first playthrough

[rich ginkgo]

you can just run away from exos while scal is actually a little scary for a first time player

typically

[unique warren]

I do have small issues with scal (it’s a lot of up and down, up and down movement) but it’s a fun fight

[rugged gale]

the only ones i didnt were slime god, eye (got jumped before i was ready), skeletron (used a weapon that performs poorly against it, twice), and astrum deus (summoned as a joke that i did not expect would work)

[iron canyon]

is brain despawnining at like 25% health a known bug w the new update idk it keeps happening to me

[old laurel]

same

[west ermine]

i think scal would be difficult if you didnt have access to draedons heart from exos

[rugged gale]

multiplayer bug ye

[iron canyon]

unfort

do things like this get fixed fast

[rich ginkgo]

is scal more difficult now that draedons heart was absolutely fucked this update

[unique warren]

As it should have been

[rich ginkgo]

like most defensive accessories should have been (and were)

[unique warren]

But that is under the assumption that scal is exclusively post exo mechs

[old laurel]

I still dont stand by the amalgmated brain and amalgem nerf

HUGE nerf

[rugged gale]

oh also, friendly reminder that mana polarizer is now really damn strong again

[old laurel]

always has been

[rich ginkgo]

sponge nerf was brutal

[rugged gale]

its even more broken now

[rich ginkgo]

didnt it get like a 33% cut

[old laurel]

Amalgam and amalgamated brain actually kinda suck now

better accesories

[unique warren]

Don’t seem like nerfs to me but go off my non-damage testing king

[old laurel]

As long as I dont see +15% damage its a nerf in my mind

[rugged gale]

the life steal isnt affected by mana amount, and you heal faster at low mana, and have a 15% damage boost at full mana, down to 5% at zero

[rugged gale]

oh hey take a look at what mana polarizer got

[unique warren]

HOLY FUCK THATS CRAZY

[old laurel]

Wait I didnt read enough

[rugged gale]

oh thats crazy yeah

holy frick

[old laurel]

nvm item is still crazy

excuse my judgement

[unique warren]

Yeah that tends to be an issue with you

[rich ginkgo]

yo wtf is this demonic ass accessory?? 😭

[old laurel]

😢

[rich ginkgo]

who thought this was a good idea

[rugged gale]

amalgam

[old laurel]

I still dont get why they make these accesories so broken and weapons, but nerf bosses to all hell

[unique warren]

Yeah it’s post-DoG

[old laurel]

Counter intuative

[rich ginkgo]

does it like slice your hp in half

what's the catch

[old laurel]

nope

[unique warren]

dude we get it holy shit

[rich ginkgo]

0 defense

[old laurel]

you will never understand

[rugged gale]

take a look at what happened to asgard's valor

[old laurel]

yeah ik that was brutal

[unique warren]

The catch is that it’s post-DoG

[rich ginkgo]

is that all

[old laurel]

Yeah

[rich ginkgo]

😭

[rose laurel]

The catch is that debuff builds suck ass

[unique warren]

Also true!

[dusk bronze]

false...

[rich ginkgo]

idk about that

[rose laurel]

Well, ok

[rich ginkgo]

• debuff builds are pretty cool

[unique warren]

This WILL go crazy in Souls DLC tho

[rose laurel]

*Base debuff damage sucks ass

[old laurel]

yeah but +300% tho

for elemental

[rose laurel]

So they need some bonkers numbers to really compete

[rich ginkgo]

cooler than "haha i swing sword and enemy go die "

[old laurel]

but I lowk dont know what weapons inflict elemental debuffs

[rose laurel]

Daybroken has 100 DPS

[rich ginkgo]

ill always hate melee

[rose laurel]

400 DPS for Daybroken is like

[unique warren]

🤓

[rugged gale]

well everything now, if you equip amalgam

[rose laurel]

Really good

[old laurel]

Ig yea

[rose laurel]

You can stack a bunch of shit to make the number higher but like

You get it

[unique warren]

Yeah it’s also competing with post-DoG accessories which are really fucking good

[rose laurel]

Debuffs have pitiful base damage

[old laurel]

I acutally like the amalgam rework ngl

[rugged gale]

also, pfp?

[rose laurel]

It's why every debuff accessory in the game is multiplicative

Yes

[old laurel]

Accesories shouldnt be primarily +damage percent

[rose laurel]

Fishmael Pfp

[rugged gale]

based

[visual plover]

i love every weapon change so far im having such a good time trying them all :3

[unique warren]

Would you say amalgamated brain got a nerf or nah? It seems like it was just reworked more than nerfed.

[rugged gale]

honestly many of the reworks are super cool

[rugged gale]

i'd say reworked

[old laurel]

love a lot of them

[rose laurel]

It was reworked

[old laurel]

It fits a completley diff playstyle now basically

[unique warren]

So like, overall similar damage?

[rugged gale]

i love the new polarizer btw

[dull heart]

not the ideal example imo

[old laurel]

idrk ab the new amalgamated brain tho

[rose laurel]

Nah definitely better

[visual plover]

i like the new ocean amulet thing

[old laurel]

kinda looks bad

[rugged gale]

though the life steal might not be respecting cooldown?

[rose laurel]

Old Amalgamated Brain was like

[rich ginkgo]

i mean amalgamated brain didnt really do damage before did it

[rose laurel]

Kinda ass

[dull heart]

New amalgam is very good

[dull heart]

do you mean amalgam

[rose laurel]

Yeah

[rich ginkgo]

was it not a defensive accessory

[dull heart]

amalgamated brain was very good

[rich ginkgo]

😭

[unique warren]

It literally had a damage increase stat

[old laurel]

amalgamated brain (the beginning of hard mode one) kinda got nerfed rlly badly

[rose laurel]

Yeah but like you get the point

[dull heart]

it needed it badly

[rose laurel]

Most debuffs just have very weak DPS on their own

[unique warren]

As it should have been, as it seems

[rose laurel]

Some shit might be fucked tho

[unique warren]

Balance seems to baffle you ngl

[dull heart]

amal brain before was insane

[visual plover]

I really like the new sea spirit amulet

[dull heart]

a dodge and 10% damage and crit boosts after dodging

[old laurel]

Yeah it kinda was broken

[dull heart]

oh btw literally every dodge in the game is getting buffed* in 2.1.1

[rugged gale]

yeah thats really strong for that point in progression

[rich ginkgo]

why

[old laurel]

how long does the 10% summon damage last after the dodge for amalgamated brain

[rich ginkgo]

wait nevermind

[old laurel]

it it js until the dodge recharges?

[dull heart]

10 or 20 seconds idr

[old laurel]

Oh that seems kinda crazy for summoner

W new summoner accesory

[dull heart]

worse for summoner than the 10% crit for every other class

[rugged gale]

oh yeah quick note, i think mana polarizer's life steal might be bugged and not respecting cooldown?

[dull heart]

it respects cooldown

[old laurel]

Arent abyss chests only supposed to spawn after slime god

[dusk bronze]

what

[rugged gale]

???

no??

they're pregenerated??

[old laurel]

oh maybe im tweaking

idk sometimes they dont spawn until after slime god for me

[dusk bronze]

also they unlock post skeletron

[old laurel]

Nah I might be going crazy

[unique warren]

Gameplay comprehension be damned

[rugged gale]

do they need shadow key or is it just an arbitrary progression gate?

[west ermine]

i think youre only able to use them after skeletron

might also be wall of flesh

[old laurel]

def not wall

[west ermine]

yeah ok defo skeletron then

[dull heart]

2.1.1 dodge changes:

• General dodges now have 30-90 sec cooldown instead of 20-90
• Stacking multiple general dodges reduces the cooldown time by 0.85x multiplicatively
• Stacking multiple general dodges applies ALL on dodge effects when dodging instead of just some
• Adjusted the dodge activaation order as follows:

//Dodge activation order is as follows:
// 1. Evolution dodge (which also procs Generals)
// 2. Spectral Veil
// 3. Evasion/Counter Scarf
// 4. Hallowed Armor
// 5. General Dodge

[west ermine]

something like the first dryad deems you worthy of their treasures

[dull heart]

this means Counter Scarf now procs before Hallowed Armor, notably

[old laurel]

Yall rlly cooked on the new item name effects btw

so cool

[west ermine]

what he said keep cooking

[dull heart]

i should show a scrapped thing

[summer shore]

Scary

[unique warren]

It better not be peak

[rugged gale]

actually she's the last dryad read the lore smh /j

[old laurel]

^

[dusk bronze]

no

silva is the first

[west ermine]

i dont think its referring to the dryad in your world

but a previous dryad

[rugged gale]

oh different dryad

[summer shore]

Does that mean 2 dodge accs get 0.85x0.85 reduced cooldown

That's scary

[unique warren]

Reading comprehension be damned, this Xzier can ignore a /j

[rugged gale]

weh

[dusk bronze]

ok but the joke was just
wrong

[unique warren]

To be fair saying the wrong thing is often times funny

[dusk bronze]

true

[dull heart]

Amal Brain + Ninja Gear + Eclipse mirror would be 0.85*0.85x (or like, 0.71x)

[visual plover]

does the dev team run the wiki or is that someone else

[rugged gale]

im also just a derp sometimes

[dull heart]

anyway scrapped thing showcase or not

[old laurel]

isnt wiki ran by community

yes

pls

[dusk bronze]

yeag

[rugged gale]

pleade

[unique warren]

Istg if you show smth peak…

[summer shore]

Oh right

5 dodge accs halves the cooldown

[dull heart]

scrapped rarities i was using to practice stuff
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458432092301295618/1456083322944884747/Terraria__Also_try_RAM_2025-12-31_18-33-16.mp4?ex=698d2044&is=698bcec4&hm=7ddfdbbe3ba351d03026d91bf39deb64000ecc937a350bf6c066fdbd0d2ece3e&

[summer shore]

That's very funny

[unique warren]

Big laser rarity

[old laurel]

those are tuff

[rugged gale]

damn you

[old laurel]

why scrap

[visual plover]

those are awesome

[dull heart]

it'd be really weird for a random item to get a raritiy

[old laurel]

thats so cool tho

[dull heart]

and dog drops already have cool cosmilite custom rarity

[unique warren]

Yeah it’s a bit much lol glad y’all didn’t go with that

[unique warren]

I think this concept could totally be used for shadowspec items ngl

[old laurel]

i rlly mess w the xyks blessing name

its so cool

[dull heart]

yeah dev items can have them

like xyk blessing

[rugged gale]

oh hang on

[visual plover]

what does xyk blessing do? i got one from a gem crawler

[rugged gale]

maw of infinity is just excelsus

[old laurel]

dash effecr

[dusk bronze]

equip it

[dull heart]

this did go so hard though

[old laurel]

• skin

how do you get the orange xyks blessing

I lowk cant find it

[visual plover]

oh cool iv got dash items hidden i should take one off

[dull heart]

rigiht click

[old laurel]

oh shoot

[visual plover]

put on a diff one

[old laurel]

im so slow

[dusk bronze]

it says in the tooltip

[rugged gale]

maw of infinity rework would be awesome if it works like that

[unique warren]

It does, also I’m so glad that post-DoG events are getting removed cause otherwise Saros being in Auric would make no sense ngl 😭

[old laurel]

oh my goodness

[rugged gale]

wait hang on that's in the game what

[dull heart]

yes

those reworks are real

the rarity is the only thing scrapped

[old laurel]

lowk the exo prism stuff should be like rainbow

that would be sick

[rugged gale]

ohhhh