calamity-update-talk

[amber egret]

wait they were buffed

[tired adder]

but fogbound is such an iconic character!

[lusty storm]

Yup. By a lot actually

[winter eagle]

This is when you know the propaganda is working

[amber egret]

why were they buffed lmao they were top tier choices for Plantera and CC

[deft lily]

[wicked halo]

Also I just really wanna say the Elemental weapons sprites are spectacular.

[keen zodiac]

im surprised this isnt a direct craft from the blade staff

[restive pine]

that Aqueos Hunter Drone has got to be the coolest pre hardmode summon weapon now,

[polar tide]

i love spooky mod but its kinda BROKEN in multiplayer... fix your MOD kraken...

[earnest jewel]

Calamitas' long lost half sister's third cousin's dog's dogsitter's uncle's son's best friend's barber's boyfriend's clone.

[winter eagle]

So is calamity silly

You just have the excuse of 8 years of shit code

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-fall-bryan-cranston-cry-dying-gif-7619047

[amber egret]

STEVE MOTHERFUCKIN HARVEY BABY

YOU'RE GONNA GO PLAY FAMILY FEUD WITH YOUR NPCS AND YOU'RE GONNA LOSE

[amber egret]

i vaguely remember this mod

what was in it

[polar tide]

i want to pin this so bad.

[tired adder]

and then Fogbound eats Steve Harvey and actual Feud begins

[wicked halo]

Like I really love how they're colored after it's classes Pillar. Lightspeed and Ark of the Elements have orange as the dominant color or how the Superradiant Slaughterer and Chromatic Eruption have green as the dominant color.

Also I need to play Spooky mod like.

[winter eagle]

Fucking please bro

[wicked halo]

STAT.

[polar tide]

i cant. i cant. but its pinned in my hearrt

[wicked halo]

Probably after I finish my Brainstorm melee playthrough.

[amber egret]

phone a friend

[amber egret]

see there we go

[polar tide]

THANK YOU DOZE

[winter eagle]

Absolute cinema!

[hot knot]

[dusk bronze]

doze coming in clutch

[dull heart]

are you sure

[tropic jolt]

[grim pecan]

SPOOKY ON TOP. PLAY SPOOKY MOD NOW.

[earnest jewel]

Treachery.

[hot knot]

fuck i can’t do my sam clap gif

[winter eagle]

I've got them all now

[hot knot]

sam clap gif in my heart

[polar tide]

as funny as it would be i litrally just showed up in dev i dont want to be fucking around with pin powers

[amber egret]

no no cause Drama

[polar tide]

ozzatron is watching

[dull heart]

(i immediately unpinned it i just wanted the message to show in chat lol)

[tropic jolt]

big ozz

[deft lily]

[amber egret]

Ozzatron is busy... uhh. eating Mold??????? and nanites???????????????????????????

[grim pecan]

how does ozz always come online at the most threatening time

[earnest jewel]

Big Developer.

[dull heart]

i don't wanna cover up the actual useful important pins

[amber egret]

i dunno their statuses are like. Confounding

[winter eagle]

I get that yeah Ozz would be the kinda guy to do election meddling

(In all seriousness I get it lmao)

[dull heart]

true... nanites make flask of confusion... that mouldy bread is confused...

[amber egret]

is this important or can it be covered

[dusk bronze]

it's uncanny

[winter eagle]

Sleep paralysis ozz

[distant raft]

alright so they fixed that half

[distant agate]

is the Elysian Aegis just a direct upgrade to Asgards valor now?

[distant raft]

but does the ascension itself reset on death?

[amber egret]

hey doze it says Mining Hemlet in the abyss guide

[dull heart]

idc

[winter eagle]

I remember when I was in Dev he would always join a Dev VC when you had a problem but hadn't told anyone yet

[polar tide]

someone post the ozzatron dm emote i dont have nitro

[dull heart]

mining hemlet

[dull heart]

i mean it always was

functionally

[grim pecan]

fake fan, that's what the item is called

[distant raft]

i read it as mining helmet first so this is like a nothing issue

[distant agate]

well before the valor had all the ahnk immunities at least

[amber egret]

no its Game Crippling

[dull heart]

aegis did too

[amber egret]

Doze's status as a Dev is in Threat

[dull heart]

and even more

[dull heart]

ur in threat

[distant agate]

oh lol ig i dont remember that

its been a hot min since i last played calamity

[amber egret]

Waggles A Finger: Metronome

[dull heart]

what if i revived Elysian Aegis's activated abiliy

[unique warren]

Yeah Elysian Aegis having buff prevention was kinda odd

[dull heart]

elysian guard go

[amber egret]

why not have it be a parry

[distant raft]

please dont

[grim pecan]

if you revive elysian guard i will kill you

[dull heart]

give me my +40 defense +15% damage

[deft lily]

explode

[grim pecan]

i don't think i could because you'd have elysian guard active but i'd try

[amber egret]

Elysian Guard at the right time to Parry A Projectile or Enemy

(since we can KB Bosses Now)

[deep bough]

This is something inheritance should do (it does)

[dull heart]

it's so funny how nobody actually processed how broken guard was

for so long

[polar tide]

was tmod just a different time backthen

[dull heart]

like when i was active before my break literally nobody used it

[winter eagle]

It's funny how nobody processed just how broken cal was.

[deep bough]

Calamity was a different thing entirely back then

[dull heart]

true

[tired adder]

did elysian guard have any downside?

[amber egret]

didnt elysian guard make you really slow

[dull heart]

less accel

[distant raft]

put modern knowledge into like cal 1.4 and the game will be shattered

[amber egret]

i remember it making me move at like

2 mph

[dull heart]

due to how wing speed worked not really

it just killed accel

[unique warren]

The devs know ball now...

[amber egret]

no like even with wings

[dull heart]

but hey guess what guess what

you have a dash!

[deep bough]

Yuck

[amber egret]

yeah but when i used it i was Dumb Idiot

[dull heart]

that would have been later on probably then idk

[grave geyser]

nobody used a lot of broken shit tbf
theres a reason all the water arena stuff survived for so long

[amber egret]

and not the Gamer

[dull heart]

well like

[deep bough]

I don’t need more dash items plz calamity 🙏

[dull heart]

water arena is like annoying to set up

[winter eagle]

Water arena is kinda an insane sweaty strategy

[unique warren]

Shout out to prov for giving the two most powerful accessory types ❤️

[keen zodiac]

why the fuck does a ice golem spawn during cryogen

[distant raft]

that's right! parry and idk

[deep bough]

Double banger

[amber egret]

Water Arena kinda feels like a, Heh. Watered Down version of OverOptimizing

[distant raft]

ftw cnage

[unique warren]

Wings

[amber egret]

using a water arena mildly feels like using Pre-2.1 Slick Cane for WoF

yeah its Effective but also i'm gonna call you a Loser for it.

unless its a challenge run and you haven't left water yet

[tired adder]

People were just menacing-piled, kind of

[unique warren]

Which is based tbf

[rugged gale]

im fully warding-pilled

the best offense is a good defense

[amber egret]

are you Warding or Hard pilled

[halcyon seal]

Nobody cared about defense until someone looked at draedons heart and went “hey wait a minute”

[deep bough]

Menacing all the way

[amber egret]

do you mean Lucky

[dull heart]

i am reforgeless pilled

[deep bough]

That ain’t me

I’m not lucky

[halcyon seal]

I’m going arcane that reforge is baller now

[amber egret]

increase the chance to double your damage

[halcyon seal]

Wish ranged and summoner got a class specific reforge

Like, projectile velocity and whip range, make it happen relogic

Hell, tag damage

[amber egret]

is arcane mana cost reduction additive or multiplicative

[rugged gale]

does defense give the same flat damage reduction as in vanilla?

[halcyon seal]

I’d assume multiplicative so you don’t have mana costs of 0

[hard copper]

Prob hard for the first half the game, and then warding for the second?

[marble mirage]

bro the frigidflash bolt is now a bit op 😭

[halcyon seal]

I’m glad mage is good now because that class was so fucking BORING last update

[marble mirage]

real

[unique warren]

Ok cool idea but when is projectile velocity that big of a deal

[marble mirage]

the pre-hardmode change to the draedon magic weapon was peak

[halcyon seal]

High velocity bullets are like really good

[pine moat]

what are the most notable mage waepon /accessories you used

[unique warren]

Sure but you can just use high velocity bullets

[halcyon seal]

I mean, I’m still pre boss, so I can’t say much

Also castoria pfp

[marble mirage]

i rread they made every mana reduction additive

[halcyon seal]

But frost bolt is super fun

[marble mirage]

but i could be wrong

[high scaffold]

Got prime as my first mech, shout out to celestial claymore my goat

[deep bough]

W

[pine moat]

holy i just realized urs is castoria too

MY MAN

[deep bough]

If it ain’t additive it just sucks

[pine moat]

🤝

[marble mirage]

real

[halcyon seal]

I know flare and frigidflash got similar reworks

Funny story spider staff is now the best weapon in the game

[pine moat]

thanks il try that out. i also tried the pulse gun. it's kinda fun cuz its homing and goes through walls btu slightly less dps than other weapons in its progression

[high scaffold]

I got my hands on the new transformer and it is absolutely insane against invasions

[unique warren]

I think imma take a break from fargos 2.0 and do some cheat sheet shenanigans in cal

[rugged gale]

flare was my main weapon against slime god, it hits so damn hard

[marble mirage]

yeah this is what the patchnotes say

[rugged gale]

it completely deleted the health pool from the split slime with an adrenaline

[marble mirage]

i took a screenshot of the wrong bit

km

[high scaffold]

I wonder if transformer is also insane against worm bosses

[remote mulch]

I suddenly think
What if the removed recipies are gatekeep behind the Codebreaker instead

[marble mirage]

i dont think so, i know the astral chunk and abombination are

[remote mulch]

Yeah that is what if

Imagine more and more items being gatekeep like that

[marble mirage]

oh sorry that went right over my head

[halcyon seal]

Codebreaker would be pretty cool if you wanted to turn calamity into a tech mod

[deep bough]

Mechtransfer 😀

[unique warren]

I must say, I kinda wish that true melee weapons with those "Charge attacks" got slightly more range when doing them

[fast wren]

Im so happy that people think im full of whimsical joy

Because I am!

:D

[unique warren]

Yeah because you are

[remote mulch]

I personally feel that mechanics like recipies needing to be unlocked through other means like the Codebreaker is kinda creative

Since theoritically you are technically working for the knowledge to make the item

[rugged gale]

stuff like ankh accessories, cell phone parts, etc

[halcyon seal]

@dull heart hey if I ever make a calamity tech addon do I have legal permission to call it CalamiTech

[fast wren]

I love weapons with fun mechanics. I heard of the art attack weapon

[dull heart]

i have no thoughts on that

[deep bough]

SalamiTech

[halcyon seal]

🐖

[fast wren]

I wonder how far you could get with art attack in an otherwise vanilla playthrough.

[dull heart]

i should work on my mod TerraJoules

[pine moat]

do it

[amber egret]

isnt Art Attack bad

[unique warren]

You would love a lot of Fargo's Souls weapons

[amber egret]

or did they buff it

[pine moat]

i would kill for more tech options

[halcyon seal]

I’m just thinking like calhaul tried to have a tech mod thing and it sucked

But hear me out right

[fast wren]

I’m interested, Mrs shush

[halcyon seal]

What if it didn’t

[pine moat]

i haven't found a tech weapon i didn't like

[granite sapphire]

Ranger is goated too

[halcyon seal]

Weapons?

[fast wren]

Every class is goated. The way to determine the one that’s the most goated for you is, say it with me folks:

[unique warren]

They're pretty cool

[pine moat]

oh , ithought u were also gonna include tech weapons XD

[fast wren]

Whichever one is the most fun for you to use!

[pine moat]

or do we call them draedon weapons?

i dont know

[granite sapphire]

Daawnlight is good now so that's a plus!

[pine moat]

the ones wtih draedon power cell weapons

[halcyon seal]

I was thinking more “soak your terrasparks in Hallowed-Titanium Slurry then stick them in a Large Adamantite Forge to turn them into angel treads” type tech

[pine moat]

aww

[rugged gale]

gregified calamity 👀

[deep bough]

I can’t wait

[granite sapphire]

Also uh, Thread of Eradication is overpowered for thanatos

[fast wren]

I think sticking to being JUST one class the entire time would be boring. If I can afford to, I’d prefer to build up setups for more than one. So for example, if a boss hit realy hard and I needed to focus on dodging I could swap from melee to summoner!

[pine moat]

then make the large adamantite forge use draedon power cells?

[halcyon seal]

Draedon power cells are lame

[pine moat]

what theyre cool as fuck

[fast wren]

Also in prehardmode monomelee is proboly a bad idea especially preboss. I’m gonna just use a magic or ranger weapon so the eye of Cthulhu issnt breathing on me

[urban cloak]

terraria tinkerer's construct

[pine moat]

its so sad though that probably a lot of people dont like the charging mechanic

[granite sapphire]

Scorpio no longer hit like a rock, Thread of Eradication does whag it says and Pulse Rifle is the best single target with ai.

[pine moat]

i think its kinda immersive

[deep bough]

There is a mod that adds a furnace like tinkerers

I think

[pine moat]

and like, the charged weapons take a long time to expire anyways

[halcyon seal]

Yeah but they don’t really function at scale if you want to do a tech mod

You need power to be transported without using items

[pine moat]

ah u mean like that

[unique warren]

Sorry why does Baleful Harvester STILL have less range than its downgrade

[fast wren]

Guys what do you use your first wulfrim power crystal for? For me I made the vest because I got it early and having 2 drones instead of one was usefull for exploring to get my melee gear

[deep bough]

Liquified draedon cells

[fast wren]

Oh wait I’m journey mode I could use star cannon lol

[pine moat]

lol

[fast wren]

Are there any other weapons that fire stars besides the vanilla 2

[pine moat]

then coin gun on a celebrationmnk10 world in hardmode

[fast wren]

I could also use platinum coin gun

[halcyon seal]

Their upgrades

[rugged gale]

i think someone made a tech mod for terraria at some point?

[pine moat]

lmao

[unique warren]

Hmm wait actually it might be equal!

[pine moat]

i totally did that on my 1.4.5 journey

starcannon prehardmode, platinum coin hardmode

[fast wren]

Coin gun and the star cannons become actualy good instead of gimmicky in a journey world lol

[halcyon seal]

The only two I know are macrocosm and, excuse my language here, calamity overhaul

[deep bough]

Coralite also adds something

[halcyon seal]

Never heard of coralite

[rugged gale]

what did overhaul do

[halcyon seal]

Might check that out

[halcyon seal]

It’s like Mekanism

[unique warren]

OK so baleful harvester has less range than legendary Horseman's Blade and since Baleful can't get size modifiers that creates an issue

[halcyon seal]

But their cables have absolutely horrendous throughput so you can’t centralize your power gen

[unique warren]

Better than it used to be tho

[halcyon seal]

And you need hundreds of drills to get the endgame items

[deep bough]

It’s made by another Chinese based team I believe. They are still working on translation

[granite sapphire]

Okay so as of now before doing 2.1 mage, summoner, and rogue

1. New Melee
2. New Ranger
3. Old Rogue
4. Old Mage
5. Old Summoner

[fast wren]

I think objectively journey mode is the best qol. Not only is it realy helpfull without being op (unless you use godmode) but it’s also accessible for people who aren’t on pc which is a massive plus

[halcyon seal]

I’m assuming this is fun and not viability

[fast wren]

But I think ittl be nice for calamity too

[granite sapphire]

Yeah

[deep bough]

Adds nightmare plantera too

[fast wren]

Won’t I need like 40 lifefruits to get max hp?

[unique warren]

I feel like being TOO good is also grounds for being lower down in terms of balance tbf

[granite sapphire]

Devil's Devastation weapon line is hard carrying melee, but a lot of other weapons are good too

[halcyon seal]

Oh summoner is SO unbalanced

I’m never gonna deny that

[unique warren]

yea lo

[halcyon seal]

But it is also very fun

[unique warren]

Just mentioning

[granite sapphire]

Though Ranged is also being carried by Thread of Eradication and the post dog Draedon weapon

[fast wren]

Guys did you know you only need 1 heart crystal to research if you’re smart about it?

[granite sapphire]

is this like breaking and recrafting with graveyard?

[fast wren]

Heart lantern is 1 to research.

[granite sapphire]

ah

[grand mirage]

Shimmer hours

[granite sapphire]

well that still means you need to find a shimmer

[fast wren]

Yeah

[grand mirage]

Good thing current calamity points right to it

[fast wren]

Also I’m exited for 1.4.5 to get to calamity

[fast wren]

Wait fr? Please explain

[mystic eagle]

Definitely not

[granite sapphire]

That's gonna take a while

[fast wren]

Oh I was thinking of my favorite new secret seed: “the care bears movie”

[granite sapphire]

I mean 1.4.4 took 9 whole months

[grand mirage]

Newest update adds a surface monument placed right above where the aether spawned

[mystic eagle]

I've tested all of Ranger pre DoG and Yharon and Thread of Eradication was not the strongest weapon for that iirc

[granite sapphire]

I like more traps please with arachnophobia, the constant, and ftw

[granite sapphire]

With monochrome

[finite wadi]

Wow this place is much more chill than reddit

[graceful sparrow]

has infernum already synced with the new base calamity update?

[granite sapphire]

I never said it was the strongest, it's just the most fun IN MY OPINION.

[fast wren]

Oh so I just get the funny green boots then make a voyage cool. Shimmer in journey mode is realy strong so having both should help a lot. Most furnitures need 1 to research, so if I need more of a material I can just make it into a table

[granite sapphire]

Also thread is funny

If you get a good angle on dog with adrenaline I'm confident it 1 shots from max

[fast wren]

Guys “the care bears movie” is a good secret seed right? I haven’t checked much but I’d imagine more sky islands is realy good

[stone zephyr]

[fast wren]

I don’t think calamity needs more stuff in space tho

[granite sapphire]

Definitely not, already really cluttered

[fast wren]

With fledgling wings and the basic hook I can go from planetoid to planetoid and that’s a realy good thing

A lot of vanilla preboss swords are either ore swords, chest loot, or the actualy good ones which require you to find rare spots like sword shrines or sky islands

Or go to hell (underground jungle) when you have no good weapons and low hp and defence

[blissful aurora]

the brain of Cthulhu became so hard wth

[fast wren]

Also how do I know if a planetoid has a life crystal?

[granite sapphire]

Uh yeah

[deep bough]

if it has one

[granite sapphire]

Because he sucked before

[dusk bronze]

they're the small stone ones

[fast wren]

Idk If this will help you win, but what’s your side summon? It’s free damage.

[dusk bronze]

with gems

and moss

[blissful aurora]

Stormjaw

[granite sapphire]

Mage time

I'm looking forward to 2.1 mage, I have higher expectations than melee

[fast wren]

Guys, does keeping up to date with a side summon ever fall off? Or does it allways stay good enough? Like, it does notable amounts of damage? You can get 3 summons, so I’d imagine they stay ok

[granite sapphire]

But where my expectations are the highest.
Rogue.

I don't have that high of expectations for summoner aside from "million damage hehe"

[fast wren]

I wonder

Who has more defence

Vanilla endgame summoner with a offence build, or a prehardmode tank build

A melee tank of course.

[granite sapphire]

In calamity?

Melee cal?

[unique warren]

Highest in what regard

[fast wren]

Vanilla and campaign

Eh close enough.

[granite sapphire]

Fun and flashiness

[unique warren]

Hmmm I mean yeah summoner could beat it there

[granite sapphire]

Also viability but that's a side

[fast wren]

Ol autocorrect making the funny and the confusing

[unique warren]

Summoner is too viable is the issue

[fast wren]

It’s proboly close though

[granite sapphire]

I think the highest tank you can get in calamity pre hm is around 100

And summoner in vanilla as offense is like 50-90

[plucky vigil]

infernal rift + starbeam eye increases your magic damage by 500%

[unique warren]

Yeahhhh it do

[halcyon seal]

yeah devs are aware of how busted star beam rye is

should be getting nerfed come this next hotfix

[granite sapphire]

So basically adrenaline but better

[fast wren]

“Hey has anybody seen my collection of forks made of red fire”

[granite sapphire]

I sure hope the fire is red

[halcyon seal]

so for the first time ever, mage is the best class in the game

[granite sapphire]

if it isn't we're cooked

-# chemical fires are very dangerous

[halcyon seal]

idk they seem pretty safe, whats the worst that could happen with toxic chemicals burning and diffusing into the air

[granite sapphire]

Best class is subjective btw

depends on the player

[dusk bronze]

no it's not

[halcyon seal]

theres only so much subjectivity that can make up for star beam rye + phantasmal fury doing 250k dps

[granite sapphire]

a class is only powerful if the player is good

[unique warren]

Idk how I feel about the starmada change but I'm also trackpad and it kinda sucks on trackpad

[granite sapphire]

That's just wrong

[unique warren]

Yeah that is wrong lo

[fast wren]

Guys is there any online checklists of what I should do prehardmode in calamity?

I guess I should proboly grab a chum caster

[fathom girder]

frame one clear

it said "nah I'm good"

[unique warren]

Uhhh nothing that is updated i would assume

[fast wren]

Any summon weapons that drop from bosses will be easy pickings for my trio of side summons.

[granite sapphire]

Make a world and play it a little like once a week so you can have stuff to do on the side and not just boss rush

It's what I'm planning to do

[fast wren]

Oh I have a fun idea

[fast wren]

I am new to calamity

[unique warren]

Brittle Star Staff, maybe?

[fast wren]

Anyways my fun idea is a minion that lowers enemy defence

[granite sapphire]

I'm planning on beating the game with only the new stuff and then have a long 2.1 world

[unique warren]

Blade Staff

[fast wren]

I mean like a debuff

[unique warren]

Well

[fast wren]

Not peircing

[granite sapphire]

I think they meant something like caustic

caustic staff applies crumbling iirc

[unique warren]

Ah, yeah

[manic fox]

hey so the abyss is actually terrifying now

[fast wren]

Oh that seems good for non summoners

[granite sapphire]

100% I teleported in and couldn't see anything without the diving suit

[fast wren]

Idea to fix this: go into the files and replace the textures with cats

[granite sapphire]

But you don't drown that fast now

[manic fox]

I was scanning my flashlight and seeing dormant collosal squids

actually shat myself

[unique warren]

Nope (it rotates between these)

[fast wren]

What’s marked for death

[granite sapphire]

Marked For Death is just better crumbling ngl

[granite sapphire]

Halves defense and dr

I'm pretty sure

[fast wren]

Ok that seems good as a side summon for non summoners then

[granite sapphire]

Which is why eye of Magnus and lunic eye are so good

[unique warren]

Nah, just dr, and if it has no dr it just does -5 defense

[granite sapphire]

Still very strong

[fast wren]

While I understand brittle star can give me 15 defence, I think minions are fun because they help attack and I just want some assistants

Alternatively, I Supose you could use them like pets

[granite sapphire]

I mean of course if something has like 99% dr it's still taking half damage but still great

[unique warren]

They can be used as both

It's a thing where you can swap functionality

[fast wren]

Like drones?

What do they do normaly?

Are they melee grounded, ranged grounded, melee flier, or ranged flier

[unique warren]

This is essentially what it does, the specific numbers are changed now tho

[unique warren]

Melee flier

[fast wren]

Oh boy I can summon a visit the main page!

[unique warren]

It says brittle star minion there lol

[fast wren]

Oh, they still hit while orbiting? That’s beat

Neat*

I think boss checklist will be very good for me although I question its ordering

It says that I should do kingslime first which seems reasonable

But then… torch god secound?

Why

[unique warren]

Torch god you can skip lmfao

It's not a thing you gotta follow strictly dw it's just recommended order

[fast wren]

I’m not doing torch god prehardmode, I’m gonna do him in hardmode because ittl be funny to either tank all the damage or fly away at high speeds and make dodging a joke

[fast wren]

Cool

[amber fern]

You can also disable the event bosses on it if you want tbh.

[fast wren]

Guys are there any important items to research as a calamity player for later on? I think for one, I’ll research lifefruit. Because I need 40, I think? Is that right?

Researching lifefruit takes 10, by the way.

[amber fern]

Journey mode?

[unique warren]

Yeah that would be pretty wise actually

[fast wren]

Yes

[amber fern]

Gor that I cant tell ya. Never really played it

[deep bough]

why journey mode

[pine moat]

just research any crafting mat you see

[fast wren]

Oh researching in journey mode means you give the research menu a certain number of the same item and then you can spawn in as many as you’d like

[pine moat]

and find decrafts that will result in you needling less research

for example ladybugs need 5 to research, but you can craft ladybug terrarium for only 1 and shimmer it

[fast wren]

Because research is a good qol that’s not op

[pine moat]

research mode is genuinely fun

[fast wren]

Research is balanced by the fact you need to find some of the item first

[pine moat]

give it a try if you haven't

[fast wren]

It’s not like “oh boy, you found 1 clorophyte ore here’s a infinite supply”

For ores, you need 100 ore or 25 bears. A grind, but not a painfull one

It’s also good for trying more than one class

[deep bough]

not grindy but u do u man

no hate

[fast wren]

I’m saying if you wanted to try EVERYTHING in one ore teir

[pine moat]

u can cut down the grind if you find a crafting item that costs way less

[fast wren]

This too, it feels realy good to save big on somthing you need a lot of

[pine moat]

if u have recipe browser just type "permanently" in the tooltips

that lets you know what permanent upgrades u can get with calamity's additions

[fast wren]

It’s also good for.. it.🐈‍⬛

Research is great for arena buffs and potions

[rugged gale]

25 bears!?

[pine moat]

and in general, just use recipe browser and set a bind for "query item"

[amber fern]

For me personally, its just not an interesting way to play the game

[rugged gale]

that's a lot of bears

[pine moat]

so when a boss drops a bunch of items, youll easily know which ones are crafting matsfor weapons or gear

[rugged gale]

🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 .

[amber fern]

Id rather just get the material and then via progression buy it from my npc mods lol

[fast wren]

Counterpoint: journey mode lets you have a lot of fun with star cannons and coin gun

[fast wren]

Journey is a qol non pc players can use.

[rugged gale]

coins are easy enough to get tbh

[fast wren]

I play on pc and mobile

[pine moat]

i sometimes find that some terraria players put so much qol mods on their game that it's almost playing journey mode

[amber fern]

? You can get stars and coins easy. Especially if you use some glitches lmao

[fast wren]

Do you want to use coin gun with platinum coins!

[pine moat]

such as time skip, increasing enemy spawns, weather control and whatnot

[fast wren]

I feel like glitches can do alot of things

[amber fern]

Eh can do all thst with other qol mods or items in game

[fast wren]

Im saying its also good for other platforms

[amber fern]

Again cool yall like it. Its just not my mode

[fast wren]

As well as players who simply don’t know the glitches

[pine moat]

exactly, so just give it a shot, unless you tell me what's the part of journey mode you dont like?

[fast wren]

Fair opinion

[pine moat]

because ive been in the same exact spot bfore where i wasl ike "journey doesn't sound interestingat all"

until i gave it a shot

it's not as "creative mode terraria" as people say it to be

just dont enable godmode

haha

[amber fern]

I've tried it, I just dont like the researching and spawning items thing

[pine moat]

ah got it

[fast wren]

Joruney modes difficulty slider is nice

[amber fern]

Id rather just buy or fsrm them

[fast wren]

I like going back to bosses later when I’m stronger to defeat the harder versions for expert and master items

[unique warren]

🤔

So you play journey classic mode

[fast wren]

I’m gonna try that next

[unique warren]

What do you usually try

[pine moat]

its more fun when you stick to a difficulty honestly

[buoyant spade]

Is the stratus sphere still mage?

[fast wren]

I did journey journey as summoner on mobile

[amber fern]

I usually have to be on rev at least these days.

[unique warren]

Nope

[unique warren]

No like, what difficulty do you set it to when you play journey?

[amber fern]

flash backs to moonlord wrecking me last night on death mode

[unique warren]

You can only play journey journey but you have a difficulty slider

[fast wren]

Journey. The difficulty. There is a difficulty named journey and it’s on the slider

There is journey classic expert and master

[amber fern]

He's asking do you play classic, expert. Expert revengeance etc

[fast wren]

On mobile? Or on calamity?

I play calamity in steam

[amber fern]

Calamity id guess from the discord we in lol

[fast wren]

I’m doing revengence for my first calamity playthrough

I’m still preboss also brb

In journey this difuculty slider is there. 0.5 is the default for journey, 1 is classic, 2 is expert and 3 is master.

[unique warren]

I see

[fast wren]

I use it on expert for calamity but on my mobile vanilla world it’s on 0.5 for now

And of course I also have revengence mode enabled for calamity.

[queen musk]

so uh, what do I use as a substitute for alpha virus

[fast wren]

From what I understand it just makes stuff have less hp for journey and that’s it realy

[ivory marsh]

… so they took out ankh from Asgards

Guess I’m never going back to my melee character

[vestal heron]

Yeah, makes it so it’s not better almost every time over every other dash

[mystic eagle]

Which barely mattered anyway for stuff outside of exploration given that most debuffs the bosses inflicted either did not do a lot of damage or were made immune to by a ram after it

[mystic eagle]

The debuff immunities were also present in Elysian Aegis and Asgardian Aegis

[ivory marsh]

so high ruler is the only ankh dash now>

[vestal heron]

Never realized that lol, always ignored the Elysian until I got the full-on asgardian

[ivory marsh]

i knew it was in Asg Aegis but it was in Elysian?

[unique warren]

Yeah it was just kinda there lol

[ivory marsh]

wack

anyways i guess all melee's are going back to the good old days with bonk dashes

[rose laurel]

Ankh legit does not add anything to Asgard's

You get immunities to random ass debuffs

[ivory marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-underpants-gif-13886158771766943429

oh yeah this isnt cat

[rose laurel]

Asgard's still offers the ram dash and knockback immunity so

Everything people actually use it for is there

[dense tulip]

shalom

[ivory marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-mario-doctor-mario-ai-story-gif-10531032281921102700

oh yeah this isnt cat

[ivory marsh]

But what if I get hit by a bee

[fierce hearth]

Equip the ankh when not fighting boss

[rose laurel]

Kiss the booboos away

[fierce hearth]

Shrimple as that

[lethal kraken]

first try after nebula pillar nice

wasnt on like legendary just expert as i did downgrade the difficulty in hardmode because i was having less fun but still nice

[fierce hearth]

How do I interpret this I don't watch baby sensory videos

[fathom girder]

I like how half of Scion's curio lines are shitposts, and then the other half is actual lore

[manic fox]

BoC rework is fucking awesome

[fathom girder]

one line is about Noita polymorphine and the other half is some shit about the jade palace

[manic fox]

the future of calamity is looking bright for once

[radiant sparrow]

Noita.....I LOVE BEING POLYMORPHED IN A 20 HOUR RUN

[fierce hearth]

I am finding new Calamity a lot easier than previous updates but honestly I don't mind as much because it's made building arenas and potting up less of a headache

[fathom girder]

WOE, SHEEP BE UPON YE

[fierce hearth]

A broken wand rogue weapon would be really funny

I love noita broken wands

[viscid sandal]

kinda seems like if you kill brain of cthulu too fast it just wont drop loot. I just killed it 5 times in a row and it only played its death animation once, and therefor only dropped its loot once

[cloud venture]

Is this normal, if in multiplayer skeletron have 2 hands in death mode. But in single player it have 4 hands

[native coyote]

does the ice lab no longer have the ice chest for diving gear?

[icy stump]

Are you playing with infernum or something similar?

[viscid sandal]

nope

[viscid sandal]

my mod list does not include anything that should interfere with the brain

[mystic eagle]

Death AI is disabled for Skeletron in MP due to it bugging out for unknown reasons

[cloud venture]

ty

[viscid sandal]

with further testing, it seems if I kill it while it is flying away after it's phase 2 transition but before it comes back in to fire it's blood bolts it simply dies without dropping anything

[icy stump]

Solo or multiplayer?

[jagged copper]

sadly no, also the turrets there will flat out destroy you in PHM

[viscid sandal]

solo in a dedicated server

[native coyote]

change number 78 that goes "fuck this thing for no reason"

awesome.

[jagged copper]

it seems like the power of the lab turrets depends on the order of which you decode the schematics

likely to force you to go through the labs in order

Sunken Sea's turrets are very weak

while the Ice and Underworld turrets will kill you fast early on

[viscid sandal]

it really seems like the calamity devs hate fun and love grind right now

[fierce hearth]

Lmao I cheese the turrets with the wulfrum scrap builder

[jagged copper]

That's a bit too presumptuous

[viscid sandal]

doesnt matter even if it is, they will probably change direction again in another year or two

[jagged copper]

besides it's only a mild inconvenience

[fierce hearth]

Grind is a natural part of vanilla terraria, if you don't like it there are QoL mods in droves, including one that re-adds the removed grind-skip recipes

[icy stump]

Known bug, it was also reported in #1052323733961977947

[native coyote]

that is a cool mechanic but it doesnt make it any less annoying that they just remove this kind of stuff for no reason

[viscid sandal]

oh cool

[jagged copper]

look at everything else they've accomplished in this update

[native coyote]

2% drop from a rare enemy in the ocean just to explore the abyss.

[jagged copper]

the good outweighs the bad tenfold

[old laurel]

Calamity is kinda like way easier now is that js me?

[native coyote]

that's for people to decide

[native coyote]

yes all bosses are considerably easier

[viscid sandal]

yeah but they have added a plethora of minor inconveniences in the latest update

[old laurel]

why????

do yk why

[native coyote]

hell if I know

[old laurel]

oh damn

[native coyote]

well, a lot of hp/damage nerfs

[jagged copper]

it's a lot less bullshit now, a lot of the fabsolian gunk has been scraped off the content, enemies and bosses

[native coyote]

less stat bloat.

the ai's are less BS

[thick spire]

Not everything has to be face slammingly difficult.

[native coyote]

well, "bs" is for you to decide again.

[old laurel]

Idk I feel like thats what made calamity fun

it being difficult

[native coyote]

it also doesn't have to be easy.

[mystic eagle]

Where you playing on either Master Rev or Master Death prior to the update?

[old laurel]

master death

[native coyote]

if you wanted actually well designed bosses and not "oo cool music oo cool weapon oo cool looking fast boss"

you shouldn't have come to calamity

ngl

[jagged copper]

so you were on the very poorly designed difficulty

[trail brook]

Man the new old lord claymore is so good

I feel like Gats

[old laurel]

Idk maybe I js like the challenge

[jagged copper]

it wasn't even good challenge

it takes one good look at MasterDeath BoC to realise that

[worthy anvil]

is the whole Murumasa progression new bc of the recent update?

[mystic eagle]

Disable Calamity Overhaul

[old laurel]

BoC was def unfair I agree

[icy stump]

Try Malice mode

[worthy anvil]

ah thnx was confused what that was

[old laurel]

but I didnt rlly find anything else insanely difficult

[native coyote]

How do you activate malice now

[jagged copper]

by any chance you have a mod that starts with "Calamity" and ends with "Overhaul"?

[jagged copper]

you need to be in for the worthy

[icy stump]

For the Worthy seed

[worthy anvil]

mayhaps

[jagged copper]

erase it from existence

[native coyote]

cool

[worthy anvil]

?

[trail brook]

I also love it being difficult
Maybe cuz I've done 5 playthroughs so i remember every attack

[jagged copper]

something something, stolen assets, unstable, corrupts characters, generally shit

[old laurel]

frrrr like I shouldnt be first trying every boss and flying through pre hard mode in like 1.5 days

[trail brook]

Thats why iam also searching for master infernum

[tall mulch]

who made this? this is insanity

[trail brook]

Yep yep

[jagged copper]

...you have a bed

[old laurel]

Ig they should make another game mode thats more difficult for mp

[mystic eagle]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Bakidon

[worthy anvil]

ahhh okay, i’m new to the whole modding terraria and didn’t know, is there a community list of general mods to avoid?

[old laurel]

thats not malice cs thats basically a joke mode

[worthy anvil]

i’ve mostly just been going off of the popular list in the steam workshop

[jagged copper]

that's primarily the one addon mod to avoid, other rules being to never mix big content mods with calamity, it never ends well

[native coyote]

"you have an alternative solution that isn't nearly as flexible" isn't really a good response ngl

even saying "entire control over time isn't cheap" would've been better

[fathom girder]

are we still pissy over the cosmolight change

[jagged copper]

you're given an item in early hm that can freeze time

[lethal kraken]

ok cool there we go :)

[granite sapphire]

wtf is bro doing here?

[native coyote]

no I have portable sundial I could care less

[mystic eagle]

This is genuinely the first time I see people complain about it

[jagged copper]

and waiting for less than a minute in bed to skip the day is not that bad

have some god damn patience

[mystic eagle]

Is this a new world and do you have Boss Checklist enabled

[native coyote]

artificial time spending

zzzz

[granite sapphire]

yes and yes

[icy stump]

Enchanted Sundial and Moondial exists

[lethal kraken]

maybe i'll play the new calamity update now but also i def need to take a break from some terraria stuff after this playthrough lol

[mystic eagle]

There you have it

[fathom girder]

I must be terminally online cuz I've seen it every day

[granite sapphire]

This hasn't happened once before

[icy stump]

You haven't read the red nation

[old laurel]

I lowk miss the big number boss health and defense

[verbal bough]

Yo is cal clones arena the same size as Scals?

[jagged copper]

it's relatively smaller, but also changes in size, just like scal's

[mystic eagle]

I don't as I would rather donate my braincells to charity

[verbal bough]

Thanks

[icy stump]

You're doing the right thing

[old laurel]

are there any estimates for when sunken sea revamp will release?

[jagged copper]

and as a word of warning for calclone, her desperation attack after BH2 causes her arena to gradually shrink the less hp she has

[trail brook]

I found my first infernum playthrough (also with rouge class)so hard that every boss i fought gave me the feeling that i should give up and quit

[mystic eagle]

2026

[old laurel]

but thats lowk what made it fun ngl

[dull heart]

no.

do not expect the next update to be sunken sea - it may be and it may not

we do not yet know

[old laurel]

alr thanks

[fathom girder]

2050

[hearty dock]

anyone know why they removed master rev?

[trail brook]

Fr

[slate folio]

ploo

[dusk bronze]

to make difficulties more streamlined

[hearty dock]

oh

:(

[icy stump]

Old difficulty*/New difficulty

[old laurel]

js play death its way easier now

[hearty dock]

oh for real?

[blazing field]

Developers had to work on 4 difficulties before

Now its 2

(Ignore malice its not real its a shitpost

[old laurel]

yeah like insanely easy

[blazing field]

(its the gfb difficulty

[old laurel]

death now is rev basically before upd

[blazing field]

Calamity isn't trying to be put too much of a focus on being extremely hard or anything now anymore

Of course if devs feel like some stuff is way too easy, it can be adjusted

[winged sorrel]

golem dealing 20 damage good update

[blazing field]

but calamtiy isn't trying to be the super hard extremely difficult hell torture mod

[old laurel]

I j sthink it would lowk be a good idea to have an actually hard gamemode like pre upd calamity (NOT MALICE)

[blazing field]

It's trying to be more accessible as a whole and be more of a content mod over a boss rush mod

[mossy token]

where's fabsol?

[blazing field]

He's been dead

[steep path]

I ate him

[blazing field]

For like

months

shot and killed

[mossy token]

🙁

[blazing field]

He's no longer a part of calamity's development team

[trail brook]

gone reduced to atoms

[old laurel]

maybe one day they will add another difficulty

[steep path]

sorry I was just so hungry

[mossy token]

WHAT!?

[blazing field]

Another difficulty is a definitive no i feel

But

I can see them making death harder

[trail brook]

Jk

[old laurel]

damn makes me sad

[woeful vigil]

He was a groomer so he was removed from the twam bassically

[blazing field]

The entire point of cutting down on calamity's difficulties is because

[mossy token]

thanks

[trail brook]

The new players

I guess

[blazing field]

1. Too much work. Specially when you consider Calamity used to also change bosses in vanilla diffs (Which they don't anymore)
   With calamity trying to move away from being too "boss rush" centric, it only makes sense to cut down on the scope of boss-related content so they can focus on other things. Adding another difficulty would go directly against that
2. The mod isn't trying to market itself or ofcus too much on diffulcty anymore, asi said

[trail brook]

so they will have a normal experience

[blazing field]

Not saying that them mkaing death harder than it is rn is out of question

I do'nt really have an opinion on whether it's fine or too easy rn

Bcuz ive neve cared mucha bt difficulty in terraria and i also havent played brainstorm yet

[old laurel]

I feel like any change to death they make will be pretty small

but ig I get it

[blazing field]

I'm just explaining why those changes were made and why, while yes, changes are possible, its possible death will be harder if devs agree its a bit too easy rn, the mod generally will not be on the same levels of difficulty powercreep it was before

[old laurel]

makes sense why they would do that

[dusk bronze]

was banished 9 months ago

[old laurel]

but i'll always miss it😢

[mossy token]

🥀

[trail brook]

Me too bro
Me too...

[dusk bronze]

🌹

[mystic eagle]

🪷

[tropic jolt]

🪷

[mossy token]

🌷

[trail brook]

🪻

[deft lily]

🪷

[old laurel]

ig we can always change the health multiplier for bosses

but its not the same☹️

[trail brook]

Wait how

[dusk bronze]

calamity server config

[trail brook]

nah i ain't balancing my own playthrough

[raw falcon]

not sure how to feel abt the auric bar resprite tbh

it had this really nice pale color before that was absolutely gorgeus

[trail brook]

The text resprits are so good tho

[dusk bronze]

macking cheese

[fathom girder]

mmm...

mack and chee bar

[buoyant pulsar]

agree, and it doesn't even look like lightning anymore

[trail brook]

More like a soap

[fathom girder]

is it even lightning

what is auric rejection

[buoyant pulsar]

auric tesla

its literally called auric tesla

[fathom girder]

tesla is electrical but not lightning.......................

frickin'... you're not even a gosh durn... c'mon...

[wicked halo]

Yeah the Auric Tesla resprite has less sauce than the original.

[fierce hearth]

Besides there are a lot of very dedicated fans who want difficulty, and will certainly try to implement it. Only time will tell if we'll get something like Infernum again, but I honestly have a feeling we might

[trail brook]

where the elec comes from anyway?

[fathom girder]

it's godly energy I wouldn't question it

It simply is

[distant agate]

how do you summon bosses like Ceaseless void and storm weaver now?

[trail brook]

Yharon auric soul is elc? no

[dusk bronze]

wasn't changed

[fathom girder]

Yharon isn't the only god lol

[distant agate]

yea nvm the item just got its name changed

[fathom girder]

well. yharon isn't a god

[trail brook]

maybe

[fathom girder]

just drag gun

[mystic eagle]

"Drag gun"

[fathom girder]

yeah I had gungeon on the mind

[brisk iris]

anyone having the issue where brain is broken? or is there a mechanic i dont know? when it spawns i cant use any weapons

[lethal kraken]

bits i've seen of this brainstorm update have looked cool af, even if i may not play since want break after second 1.4.5 playthrough i just finished being journey zenith seed... and then depending break length if i feel like playing again it may then be like closer to when the new wow xpac drops which will automatically take over my life so any in progress playthrough would prob get dropped

[trail brook]

Old players like me won't get used to the new calamity diff very easily

[cinder mural]

I like the one we've always had

[trail brook]

But good update can't complain

[icy stump]

If you want difficulty, Fargo's DLC is still active

[cinder mural]

Mah only complain is the aetherflux cannon (i've said it before and prolly been archived in known issues)
Too many particles my old war machine don't like it

[lethal kraken]

im probably deep down still muscle memory used to some older rev difficulty but i also have never gone beyond except fargo dlc pre hardmode

which i think was a wow related playthrough dropping too

[gray carbon]

why is there a sword with the exact same recipe as the blessed phoenix egg

is that intentional

[icy stump]

I didn't know Swordsplosion is now craftable

[fathom girder]

Brainstorm is peak because I can now gun down WoF with god's caliber

.30-06

[icy stump]

Maybe? Only devs know

[cinder mural]

And the best weapon to ever exist
The m1 garand

[raw falcon]

Ngl, I saw a lot of people complaining about calamity reworking tons of things and removing a few weapons instead of adding a ton of stuff, and I just really dont get it?

[fathom girder]

This is kinda weird though isn't it? Isn't the only gun that can do this from the pirates, which is way after skeletron?

[amber furnace]

balancing

[buoyant pulsar]

crackshot colt

[fathom girder]

people will get angry over anything

[raw falcon]

Like the mod is fine where it is content wise i dont know why people keep wanting a shit ton of new additions

[cinder mural]

Nostalgia hitting hard for them

[fathom girder]

OH COLT

shit I haven't done ranger in ages I forgot colt existed

[mystic eagle]

wtf

[raw falcon]

Oh boo hoo, my spiky balls got removed, the mod is unplayable

[icy stump]

There are people that think that more is better

[raw falcon]

not like 90% of players never fucking touched them

[buoyant pulsar]

they are simply the same exact thing

[pine moat]

rip bouncy spiky balls though

you were awesome pre eoc to eoc

[fathom girder]

Yharon's fake egg is created with the power of a billion energy swords

[hard copper]

I did a spiky ball only run lol, it was alright

[trail brook]

i like how there are mechanics for certain weapons like over heating or charging or parryin or stealth strikes

[pine moat]

i think i used it up to boc im not sure

[icy stump]

Also, removed items can come back, like Grand Dad or Draedon's Remote

[pine moat]

just have a flat floor and throw upwards and stack as many as you can

worm die, boc die

[icy stump]

(As Burrower's Beacon)

[lethal kraken]

people complaining calamity is "item bloat" vs people complaining when the smallest thing gets removed in a battle to see who can be the most loud and annoying at one given moment

[pine moat]

better than some people conflating the two as one person xd

[hard copper]

I see it as the less quantity items there are, the higher quality the remaining items can be. The trade is worth it imo

[raw falcon]

I feel like people just entirely glossed over what the update actually added and changed for the sake of saying "they didnt add enough new content, they removed mah devastation, no yharim!!! Devs lazy!!!!"

Like

I get the frustration but thats just bad faith man

[lethal kraken]

i feel like i fucking hate the way gamers treat game devs

[pine moat]

gamers in general are just annoying as hell

[lethal kraken]

true true

[wicked halo]

Every mod dev should be allowed to kill a gamer per day.

[old laurel]

all the difficult mods are never mp

[half vine]

"why must they make us actually play the game"

[old laurel]

I rlly like most the things they added I js rlly miss the difficulty calamity had before the upd

[still bluff]

when will they add yharim mod bad

[half vine]

Also ngl giving rogue the desert prowler actually seems fitting

[hard copper]

oh no, theres less qol in my content mod

[hard copper]

Yeah, both the pre boss desert armors being ranged was kinda weird as well

[distant agate]

any tips for mage gear for ceaseless void?

[dull heart]

starbeam rye

[teal bone]

The providence weapon which fires beams is pretty great for dealing with the dark energies

[distant agate]

ah, ty, ig im killing her a few more times then

[pseudo vector]

purge guzzler my beloved

[obtuse hawk]

cd you did the sound design for brain of cthulhu right

or was that someone else

[fleet ember]

was the Occult Skull Crown recipe change intended to allow access to post moon lord weapons in GetFixedBoi?

[hard copper]

Oh yeah thats funny, you can get aethers whisper after brain in gfb

At least thats the biggest skip, good find

[fathom temple]

man the DoG is fucking awesome

[tame sonnet]

I agree, I came and joined just to say that lol

[fathom temple]

tho giving mage spam lazer weapon was a mistake

[fleet ember]

Probably should get changed. It kinda makes everything else meaningless

[fathom temple]

ts was so quick. DoG lasted less than 2 minutes 😭

[shut ridge]

is the burrower supposed to show up for 2 seconds and then leave instantly

[tame sonnet]

It runs away if you hit it

[shut ridge]

i haven't hit it

[icy stump]

You need a weapon that inflicts an electric debuff

[pseudo vector]

that was me ye

[obtuse hawk]

awesome

[distant agate]

ok, gear check, just beat providence, not beaten any bosses after them

what should i change up

im stuggling lol

[fading lagoon]

mana polorizer with the new choas stone doesnt seem like a good combo imo

[distant agate]

ive just not found something that felt like it was worth using the life steal tbh

but i figured that would be the thing to drop by now

[fading lagoon]

negitive mana with the thing that makes you do less damage with less amounts of mana seems bad

[dull heart]

it's a very good

you get -5% magic dmg from Polarizer which is very little and is more than offset by Mana Burn's bonus

but +6 hp/s regen

and lifesteal

it makes it much, much easier to survive chaos stone

[distant agate]

so anything i should swap up?

[grave geyser]

Oh boy I can spend 2 accessory slots for infinite mana and net zero damage

[distant agate]

i mean, the infinite mana is very nice

[fading lagoon]

i thought it would be 15% less damage?

[grave geyser]

Ok but you don’t need polarizer for that

[distant agate]

being able to never stop shooting has increased my dps

[grave geyser]

You can just
Use chaos stone as a stand-alone and get a very similar effect

Infinite mana is a fine buff but not “worth 2 accessory slots” good

[distant agate]

so what would you use instead of the mana polarizer?

[grave geyser]

Depends on what you want for your build

[fleet ember]

Just got a post DoG drop from the dungeon in GFB so there's the progression

[grave geyser]

Are you trying to lean more towards damage? Mobility? Defense?

[distant agate]

probably defence but im open to anything

[grave geyser]

Could use deific amulet or blood pact to that end

[dusk bronze]

they were specifically made to synergize together

[blazing spindle]

does anyone know how to get ammo for the shpc

[fading lagoon]

oooooooh i misread what mana polorizer does

[grave geyser]

Souls

[fading lagoon]

oops

[icy stump]

Souls

[blazing spindle]

yea

really

[clever elbow]

how do i make the world dewath and master mode

or is taht removed

im so confused

world is now just death

[blazing spindle]

how do i get souls speifically

[native thistle]

Hit enemies

[dusk bronze]

death activates master

[clever elbow]

ah ok cool

[dull heart]

it's not net 0

[twin ingot]

Man, the shear difference in quality from the worm to the chicken is astonishing

[dull heart]

15% to 5% is a 10% difference for 100-0% mana

5 to -5% is another 10% difference

[bleak oriole]

what's the new pre-boss stage rogue armor set? i remembered ruffian but it's now ranged...

[dull heart]

it's not even close

chaos stone is way, way stronger than -5%

like, 200 max mana is 1.06x which is like, 8-9% equivalent at post clone tier?

and you'll probably have more mana than that

[thick talon]

wrong one

sorrgy

[grave geyser]

Yeah but any more than 200 is entering the range of difficulty sustaining

[fathom girder]

Chaos stone is extremely strong but you really gotta spec into regen too

[bleak oriole]

bumping cause im still curious

[fathom girder]

It pairs with mana polarizer cuz that thing has lifesteal and regen

[dull heart]

not when you have polarizer's +6 /sec

and lifesteal

[fathom girder]

I also would recommend the radiant ooze line

[dull heart]

Mana Burn doesn't cancel out existing regen, for the record

it just subtracts regen

[fathom girder]

also man I love finding ways to completely annihilate WoF

on my ranger run rn I just killed aquatic scourge early so I could nuke wof with corroded caustibow cuz it auto applies irradiated, which scion's curio boosts

[icy stump]

Desert Prowler

[bleak oriole]

thank you

[grave geyser]

+6 already isn’t keeping up at 200
I would expect you to start losing hp at like… 260ish? Maybe 300 at full natural regen

[fathom girder]

You are guaranteed to start losing health with polarizer alone yes

Chaos stone turns your healthbar into a resource

[grave geyser]

If I wanted a damage boost in exchange for my healthbar brimflame is right there :/

[distant agate]

dude ceaseless is just nuking me#

i cannot survive this fight

[fathom girder]

1: What's stopping you from using both
2: Chaos stone is able to last you the entire run, only growing stronger as you get more mana from various sources

with some really crazy synergy in post ML

[icy stump]

This is a fight you cannot win...

[fathom girder]

it makes the arcane reforge even stupider after its buff lmao

And if you do the setup right, you can end up regen tanking everything because you're already doing so much to maintain the healthbar

[distant agate]

oh so you think i should get off warding and go for arcane?

[icy stump]

What weapon are you using?

[fathom girder]

if you're on mage I would say absolutely go arcane

[distant agate]

purge to deal with the orbs then the flower to kill the boss

[fathom girder]

It reduces mana costs and buffs magic damage now

alongside the +20 mana

[distant agate]

i figured warding is just too good

[fathom girder]

It's ok

it's not quite as extreme as it was before this patch, but it is good

arcane is just so so good for mages, especially for non-flower builds

which just so happens to be what a chaos stone build does

[distant agate]

non-flower? what does that mean

[icy stump]

No Mana Flower or upgrade

[distant agate]

oh right

[fathom girder]

No manaflower, yeah

the build has much more potential damage while accomplishing basically the same thing

because you don't have to juggle mana sickness, which is a damage nerf

[distant agate]

ok ive switched over to arcane, lets give this another go

[fathom girder]

This is the build that my mage finished the run with

Fearmonger is wonderful for maintaining regen while chaos stone and arc flash ring do their thing

[distant agate]

ugh died to the desperation phase at the end of the fight

arcane was def better tho tf

[fathom girder]

Yeah, arcane's good now

[distant raft]

mana polariser is good????

[distant agate]

whats the ice looking crystal and the bottom one?

[distant raft]

radiance

[fathom girder]

1: Purity
2: Arc flash ring

[distant raft]

second one is #idk

[distant agate]

oh and the one above mana polarizer please

[harsh plume]

after 2.1.0, we have had some issues in multiplayer with summons despawning, like, all the time. other times you cant seem to despawn them at all even if you want. running Calamity, Magic Storage & summoner UI. issues seem to be especially bad with Mirror of Kalandra & Lilies of Finality, and Void Eater Marionette does not work at all (sometimes you get the buff, but not the worm). anyone else experienced this?

[fathom girder]

Arc flash ring is Storm weaver's expert weapon

[icy stump]

Dropped by Storm Weaver

[fathom girder]

Oh those are just wings of rebirth

can be replaced if you just use the wings on the boots

[icy stump]

It's reported in #1052323733961977947

[harsh plume]

ah, thanks!

didnt realise to look there mid stream haha

[spiral tree]

how to get the honeyfin

[fathom girder]

The important accessories in the endgame chaos stone build is arc flash ring and mana polarizer, the rest is up to you for comfort

[grave geyser]

Arcane is bad because rye exists I fear

[fathom girder]

Rye sucks for the chaos stone build

[icy stump]

There will be a hotfix patch soon iirc

[fathom girder]

also yeah 1 is radiance not purity lol

[distant agate]

hmmm well im struggling to hurt stormweaver too so i might be stuck on upgrades lol

[grave geyser]

…no?

[fathom girder]

as a temporary thing

grab warbanner

[arctic cliff]

i swear there was an Evil Smasher rework planned

wonder what happened to that

[fathom girder]

it's a cool all-class that's really good vs stormweaver

Doze recommended it to me and that helped me kill stormweaver for the ring

[amber egret]

rye is hard to fumble wdym

[amber egret]

ring ?

[fathom girder]

arc flash ring

[grave geyser]

Why would it be
Cstone just lets you abuse high mana cost weapons Better with rye

[distant agate]

ty

[grave geyser]

There’s no downside

[amber egret]

what is that

[dusk bronze]

new accessory

scroll up

[fathom girder]

It adds a 5% chance for any hit to trigger a 300% lightning strike

which chaos stone just so happens to inherit

[amber egret]

debuff damage counts as hits or

[fathom girder]

debuff damage doesn't count as hits no

By inherit I mean

I hit something for 500 damage, that strike occurs, which deals 300% that, and then chaos stone takes x% of THAT number and applies it as a burn

[cinder mural]

is chalice better than radiance now?

[inner timber]

this is some warframe bullshit levels of multiplier stacking

[fathom girder]

I just so happen to be a warframe player

so setting up the build came naturally

it is REALLY uber strong

and once you get calamity it's just over

entirely

[amber egret]

did you use Rye

[fathom girder]

Doze didn't recommend rye to me so I didn't use it