calamity-update-talk

[rotund charm]

Well, I have done calamity and infernum as a summoner a few times and barely used a whip, kept using the Eye of Magnus with a few occasionally whip strikes

[granite sapphire]

definitely alien tech

[inner timber]

but you can only debuff stack
debuffs are strong. that could be your gameplan. you're still all class lol

[unique warren]

But you can do more

[inner timber]

okay? the skill floor is still doing a debuff build

which isn't very difficult to do

[unique warren]

Which is higher than the skill floor of monoclass

Neither are difficult but one is harder

[inner timber]

not by much

[unique warren]

Okay??

[high scaffold]

I wonder when is sand bag coming because it would be realy nice to have already

[hearty horizon]

THAT WAS FUCKING FREAKY, I love it

Okay new Brain is amazing

[high scaffold]

I realy liked the clone attack

[inner timber]

my point here is goin against this where like . it isnt always a lot more mental work and at times can be a shit ton easier than even some single complicated weapons , nd i think you are vastly overstating how difficult it is

[unique warren]

I think you’re just more used to it than the average person, genuinely

And if we only talk about the skill floor no it’s not that difficult

[hearty horizon]

Yeah, that's what I was talking about, ||especially with some of the clones having all the eyeballs, that was so freaky but really goddamn cool|| (spoiler tagged because I know Shush hasn't fought it yet and I don't wanna spoil it lol)

[unique warren]

But because all class has practically no limitations that means you can have like a fuck ton going on

[hearty horizon]

That last stretch was so cool

[inner timber]

with how many weapons there are in each class the limitations of all class are damn near the same as multiclass or just monoclass, like at some point you hit a degree of such horrid returns on investment that adding anything else isnt doing anything for you and is probably lowering your performance

[unique warren]

Ehh you kinda run into class sameyness there

[vocal dew]

so close , yet so far...

[unique warren]

Like trust me I get what you’re saying but it is inherently more open and thus has applicable builds that can get pretty crazy

[inner timber]

with anything more than like 7 weapons you usually run into sameyness unless you're using primarily sentry-like mage weapons . there's only so many things that dont just have the same purpose

[inner timber]

you're also more limited by having to actually fit every class in a way that does something

[unique warren]

But you’ve said that isn’t hard to do

[hollow root]

Did first Ravager fight get way harder or is it just that I'm doing true melee?

[unique warren]

Could be the latter but yeah they made it kinda more annoying slightly right?

[inner timber]

it isnt, this doesnt make it less limiting

[hollow root]

Literally I've never understood the point of the pillars but now it's like "oh, they're here to fuck me"

[inner timber]

harder, you cant move through pillars + i think the head is unkillable in phase 2

[unique warren]

Alr lmfao

[vocal dew]

wait is there another better post ml weapon thats before sentinels , polter and provi thats stronger than cosmic rainbow against DOG...?

[hollow root]

makes sense, i'm barely getting to phase 2 currently

[inner timber]

build diversity kinda dies if you're forcing yourself to have 4+ different weapons cuz its like. there's gonna be weapons that are there to fill quota

[hollow root]

i suppose i could try to deal with aureus first. both of those are gonna be nightmares though

hell, every boss i have left to deal with is a nightmare for true melee

[unique warren]

Man idk about that but alr lol

[inner timber]

rogue doesnt fit very well into most debuff builds if you already have melee and ranger and summoner so the rogue weapon atp is there so that you have a rogue weapon instead of actually adding to the build

[unique warren]

Well yeah that’s your rage/adrenaline damager

Which rage should be relatively frequent

[inner timber]

this then locks you into rogue armor

[unique warren]

Well this goes back to our earlier conversation

Because that is bullshit

I’m trying to get at what all class is supposed to be alright

Whether or not it meets that specifically in calamity whatever

[inner timber]

yeah but that's not applied rn (nor will it be considering they're entirely reworking stealth ad a mechanic eventually, so we dont even know if it'll be as it is) if we talk about this from a future perspective then yeah anything ie possible

[fathom girder]

Oh if it's not calamity then your main armor would be summoner or a mix of the dungeon defender armor and a selection of class specific accessories

[inner timber]

yeah

[radiant sparrow]

does the wizard sell the rod of discord still?

[fathom girder]

Alternatively you can spec into less summons and use any other class armor, with a summoner accessory

[inner timber]

no

[fathom girder]

all class has a lot of options cuz it's every class :D

[radiant sparrow]

i guess ill die then

[unique warren]

Maybe this ties sorta into my idea that every class would have an overarching idea like melee being close range (but not necessarily true melee), ranger being accuracy and range focused, mage more of a non-range specific one with more access to homing, summoner being… summoner, all very distinct in a way they really aren’t as of now

[ebon orbit]

tbf “all class” doesn’t really directly mean anything without self imposed setups. This just mostly sounds like a personal optimized idea of all class rather than what it actually is at a base level.

[fathom girder]

Roots does this

[unique warren]

Then gets rid of class distinction and it looses me there

[fathom girder]

I see

[unique warren]

Like it’s probably great but I have all these ideas about what classes should be that I know won’t ever really coincide with what others think per se

[inner timber]

wouldnt this then also horribly limit build diversity because every class is a stereotype with niches that you cant mix very well together

[fathom girder]

https://streamable.com/wczt7s also I'm practicing my acropack movement by setting up an entire world of rails to use for movement and combat :D

Ugh, I forgot no embeds. the link is safe

[unique warren]

No, it would give all class distinct roles to put weapons in, and that’s just the overarching idea of each class and is extremely broad

Just “better when closer” is such a generic concept that it can be used in so many unique ways while still being a cohesive class

[fathom girder]

the unfortunate part is that such a thing can be true for all the classes, which is why roots does it the way it does

[inner timber]

close range, long range/accurate, homing range, summoner (which is homing range or close range depending on the summon)

i feel there is quite a bit of overlap here

[unique warren]

Look I am really oversimplifying here cause we have to have been on this convo for like an hour at least

[granite sapphire]

still rocking adamantite since i dont wanna go get red riding

[inner timber]

also this would mean that classes arent really classes and are just weapon types
which like, roots lol

[fathom girder]

Maybe pick up modding? It would be interesting to see your ideas in action

[unique warren]

I have my ideas and they are ones I would like to implement in a meaningful way

[unique warren]

Also not true, subclasses are a thing

Melee is just giving a name to the “close up = better damage” concept

[granite sapphire]

Also this new post pbg weapon for ranged is really good

[fathom girder]

which weapon is it?

[granite sapphire]

I also stop myself from using the same weapons if I unlock a new one on the tier

[unique warren]

There’s no reason to discard the name, or the things that increase damage for that concept of weapon

[granite sapphire]

B-GSS: Nidhogg

Left click is a laser that pulls, right click is a beam of destruction that deals like 8000 without menacing

16k critical

[fathom girder]

Holy shitamole I just spawned it in to see and god DAMN that is cool

[granite sapphire]

lol

[fathom girder]

LOOK OOOOOOOOUT

[granite sapphire]

bruh

[unique warren]

Tbf it is cultist

[granite sapphire]

at any minor inconvenience

[granite sapphire]

i was also using everclear so kinda

[unique warren]

Holy FUCK it’s 1 o clock god DAMNIT

[fathom girder]

oh, we're in the same timezone, fun

[granite sapphire]

Nidhogg is very good for pillars, and great at torturing crawltipedes

[fathom girder]

okay I am LOVING this acropack wing replacement run already

[unique warren]

Neat, wonder where you’re at

[inner timber]

yeah but also what actually differentiates like, a shotgun from a sniper class wise
they're both guns, but one is closer range and one is longer range, does one really need to be melee while the other is ranger

[granite sapphire]

I scrunch the crawltipedes into tiny little balls

[fathom girder]

Midwest, middle o' nowhere mostly

[unique warren]

Yeah shotguns are like the biggest wrench in that it’s kinda crazy

[inner timber]

its too fucking cold here

[fathom girder]

bro come here it's average 60f this week

[unique warren]

Like everything else other than melee others is fine, those are poorly designed as is so I could just rework those, but what the fuck do I do about shotguns

[inner timber]

also this does mean that something like a gunblade basically cannot exist in this system as it would have more range than melee but be good in close quarters

[granite sapphire]

1.5 shots of the nidhogg charge

[fathom girder]

jesus christ LMAO

[inner timber]

average of like 30f here lol

and earlier this month we had like the -2 billion

[unique warren]

Have you considered the fun idea of multiclass weapons

Also this would be a vanilla-based mod so that isn’t a worry of mine

[inner timber]

i feel like multiclass weapons . defeat the point of having classes based on the weapon capabilities

[unique warren]

Yeah I was just kinda giving an easy answer cause it’s not rlly smth I care much about

[final pine]

the hellborn in question:

[unique warren]

Yeah yeah I’m talking in an ideal world

I’m an ideas guy leave me alone

[fathom girder]

Your ideas hover around what Roots is and runs into the issues that Roots solves, it's funny

[violet plinth]

Anyone know like a new guide i can follow for like bestsetup for a class through a playthrough

[still bluff]

Not yet the mods barely updated

Just try stuff

[fathom girder]

Things are still fresh, but anything that's new is guaranteed to be good

[still bluff]

We try to make new stuff worth using

[spiral tree]

i need them to add a tiny spider that does 9 trillion damage

[fathom girder]

Spider staff is reportedly one of the best summons rn for some. unknown reason. Doze mentioned it earlier

[spiral tree]

i love spiders

[vocal dew]

GODDAMN contact damage...

[spiral tree]

i wish i was a spider

[spiral tree]

what am i watching

[fathom girder]

MY FUCKING EYES

[vocal dew]

shroomed dog...

[fathom girder]

Dude the laser walls while shroomed are INSANE looking lmao

Is that malice or dmode

[unique warren]

Yeah it’s weird cause it’s like the same issues and almost the same approach but roots is just… ehhh

Like again, sounds good and well designed or whatever but muh classes

[vocal dew]

just D mode...

[fathom girder]

whew

[vocal dew]

wait malice is back...?
-# wtf did i miss from quitting cal for a few years...

[fathom girder]

Malice is "back"
It's just the calamity difficulty for legendary mode

[vocal dew]

-# scared me...

[fathom girder]

Oh don't worry, it's still bullshit, but it's at least possible and tested proper and allat

[vocal dew]

still wonder how to avoid contact dmg in lazer walls , or if theres a better weapon for pre-provi...

[inner timber]

aye release malice was possible

[fathom girder]

yeah but it sucked balls

[inner timber]

gfb malice sucks balls too if you think about it

[fathom girder]

I mean YEAH

[hoary edge]

malice "stand" summoner

[inner timber]

also regular legendary is shit i cant lie

i pray they removed the god forsaken diabolists from skeletron

[vocal dew]

i dont wanna imagine that...

[hoary edge]

I think invigorating build will be my new meta for now on

[inner timber]

imagine providence but a mosquito and evil

[vocal dew]

especially the fact shrooms NO LONGER give dmg buff...

no more super melt builds...

[inner timber]

also imagine 5 boss low%

[unique warren]

Also did they forget to remove the Providence globs

[fathom girder]

"forget" nah they're important

[spring frigate]

Did they buff broken biome blade? Cuz i literally one shotted wall of flesh

[hoary edge]

huh wut???

[spring frigate]

I had like 8k dps

[coarse vapor]

keep it on the dl

[frail tapir]

what biome mode did u use?

[spring frigate]

Desert

[frail tapir]

dang

[lean cave]

mod conflict, most likely a weapon swing effect mod

[granite sapphire]

Just beat Astrageldon finally

[lean cave]

swag

[granite sapphire]

1:30 am time for bed

[radiant sparrow]

:( farming for rod of discord hurts

[granite sapphire]

Would it make you feel better if I said I got it on my first chaos elemental

[radiant sparrow]

Death upon thee

[granite sapphire]

Ok uhh

Here

[fathom girder]

Slingshotting into eye of cthulhu at 140mph and nearly dying to it is certainly a feeling I'm not used to

acro pack is amusing

[civic frost]

what boss is this i cant tell

[vocal dew]

note for self: dog walls can change mid dog walls...

[vestal osprey]

That looks like a mini version of the new mauler

[civic frost]

ii c

[granite sapphire]

This part was always so fun omg

[vocal dew]

yeah , phase 3 dog walls are fun without shrooms...

[granite sapphire]

Old dog laser walls were always like
"Oh well gotta wait like 15 years for these to pass"

[vestal osprey]

Your computer right now:

[granite sapphire]

You should totally do it with shrooms and full effecr nilk

Just hope you don't go insane

[fathom girder]

Usually the lag made it longer

[vestal osprey]

You about to be an accomplice for murder for this one's PC

[granite sapphire]

Nilk shrooms is the equivalent of shooting an actual thermonuclear bomb at your computer ngl

Scratch that, antimatter bomb

The computer will become the densest object in the known universe and collapse into an unstoppable ravaging black hole

[vestal osprey]

Is this how the ceasevoid was made?

[granite sapphire]

maychanps

perhaps I have come with a cringy catchphrase

maychance

[balmy saddle]

what am i even looking at

[granite sapphire]

Asya Shubina in Silent Hill

[vocal dew]

old dog walls also whatever reason nukes my FPS...

thank god that shits gone...

[hoary edge]

yea I hate dog laser wall

[vestal osprey]

New calamity is about to be way more optimized

[inner timber]

go my 5 billion projectiles for no reason

[vestal osprey]

The new laser wall is so peak

[hoary edge]

hell even infernum dog laser grid were easier than that

[hoary edge]

[vestal osprey]

Also remember the brain got reworked and is peak also

[balmy saddle]

ferry made a game?

never have i thought that i will encounter ferry fans in the wild

[vestal osprey]

Is it bad im already excited for what new boss reworks are in store

[balmy saddle]

peak but bugged as hell

[granite sapphire]

It's more so they optimized the mod more

[vestal osprey]

Terraria mods in general have a higher standard of optimization

Well they've been getting it

[granite sapphire]

calamity used to bake my PC frames even with frame skip, with the higher quality it should crash my game, but it runs smoother than before

[vestal osprey]

Its almost like optimization is a very important part of programming

[granite sapphire]

Every boss after moon lord would freeze my game for several seconds or turn the frames into a choppy slideshow, now it's only the Exos, astrum deus even works beautifully

[vestal osprey]

Have you tried wrath of the machines? Its an exo mech rework thats way more optimized

[granite sapphire]

Yeah, still was choppy until the update

because Thanatos is a worm.

Now only base cal Thanatos when he spawns in is laggy, which he does like 3 times

[vestal osprey]

Thanatos overheating is actuslly a reference to how he overheats your pc

[granite sapphire]

Also base cal Thanatos is harder than inf

[vocal dew]

i love contact dmg...

[granite sapphire]

I swear inf Thanatos melts in seconds but base cal melts me in seconds

That freaking coil beam, I don't know how to counter it, he spins so fast

[vocal dew]

what... the fuck... DO U MEAN HE ALSO HAS CONTACT DMG WHEN ENTERING PORTALS...???

[vestal osprey]

Base calamity really leans into the insane damage reduction

[granite sapphire]

(yet freaking ftw mutant is still possible, just more annoying)

[carmine lark]

I think so

[granite sapphire]

that attack where he coils and rotates trying to hit you with that beam that kills you in 2-3 hits is so quick

[vocal dew]

so uhhh fun fact: u can outrun thanatos with hexed branch...

[carmine lark]

Tbh it’s mostly just reaction time

[granite sapphire]

I don't care about outrunning him, I can do that just fine with insignia

also like first time I ever used ascendant insignia was on dog up to post game lol

Never used it till 2.1 on my melee playthrough, don't believe me if you want to despite the limitless times I beat Infernum

Nighty Night

[spring frigate]

Oh, k

[spiral tree]

is there any mod that lets mii copy an structure without having to build it all over again

[vestal osprey]

Cheat sheet has a feature that does just that

[hoary edge]

or dragonlens

[spiral tree]

ty so much

[final pine]

use a piercing weapon for a free 40% off thanos healthbar

actually first i should be asking what class you are

[radiant sparrow]

Btw draedon sends a mech version of himself when we fight his exo mechs right?

[gloomy grove]

he is a robot

[radiant sparrow]

Fr? He's not like flesh at all?

[gloomy grove]

no?

[radiant sparrow]

I thought he was a dude with awful posture

[hoary edge]

no he's pure robot

[radiant sparrow]

How did he come into being?

[earnest jewel]

He woke up 660 years ago in a lab with a dead body.

[radiant sparrow]

He does look baller tho ngl

[earnest jewel]

The Draedon you see is just one of his old recon bodies. That's why it's frail and rusty.

He's got a whole bunch of them. He's basically unkillable.

[radiant sparrow]

Right so I assume the dude in the hologram in his main body?

The spikey backed one

[earnest jewel]

There is no main body.

He's an AI.

At most he's got one body where most of his focus is, but if anything were to happen to it he'd just switch.

[spiral tree]

Draedon ai generated

[pale silo]

His "body" is where his data centres are

[spiral tree]

[earnest jewel]

And they, along with his drones, are scattered globally.

[radiant sparrow]

He should use his processing power to ai generate shit and ruin the earth :)

[earnest jewel]

Doesn't align with his goals, so that's one less thing to worry about.

[pale silo]

If it was for the funny™ maybe he'd do it

[radiant sparrow]

@Draedongpt why is the sky blue

[earnest jewel]

Draedon has yet to research comedic science, I'm afraid.

[pale silo]

Sounds like a good time to start!

[radiant sparrow]

There's more draedon stuff coming in the next major update right?

[pale silo]

We've no idea

The next major update isn't revealed. And sso is very likely gonna be a later update due to lack of motivation to work on it rn

[radiant sparrow]

:( I want more robot stuff

[earnest jewel]

Next update is Sunken Sea Overhaul tomorrow.

[pale silo]

(it's why brainstorm was released with all the non sso stuff)

[radiant sparrow]

I really like draedon's theme

[hoary edge]

I think I am more interested to see if the rest of arsenal weapons [like mounted scanner, galvanized glaive, anomaly nanogun] got reworked

[gloomy grove]

not all of them got reworked iirc

[hoary edge]

oh

[gloomy grove]

there was a chart/graph here for the arsenal weapons but i dont think its pinned? you can probably just dig around and find it

[vestal osprey]

Guys...

Imagine how peak the the moon lord revengence fight would be

[pseudo vector]

quality of terraria has the wand of construction

[vestal osprey]

The autoname for terraria worlds is... on somthing rn

[stuck kite]

it tends to do that sometimes

[balmy saddle]

black glass band upgrades are kinda weird

[cunning sequoia]

armpit of steve buscemi

[balmy saddle]

they scale from your highest damage boost, but only trigger on certain type of damage

[stuck kite]

structure helper is my go to but seems like there's like 5 different mods that all work probably

[balmy saddle]

so you can use melee set and weapon and shoot a magic staff once in 10 seconds for 600+ dmg

might aswell just make it trigger on any weapon hit

[vestal osprey]

Does the sunken sea arsenal lab change to spawn slightly below the sunken sea or did best of both worlds mess with things a bit?

[balmy saddle]

also what`s the point of them having minor differences if you cant choose which one you want to make

[fierce nebula]

This has happened to me in every world I've generated

[pale silo]

The point of origin for it is a bit above the actual lab to prevent it spawning too high in the desert

[fierce nebula]

It never spawns in the sunken sea for me 🥀

[pale silo]

Mine does a good portion of the time

[balmy saddle]

would be a lot cooler if they were classless accessories so you could choose which one you prefer (more dmg/aoe)

[pale silo]

Seems it prefers the edge, but that's probably just cause it dislikes overwriting some blocks

[visual plover]

is it just me or

is the new update super super easy

[balmy saddle]

yeah

[balmy saddle]

also do you play solo or in multiplayer?

[desert garnet]

if you played master, then yes

[vestal osprey]

I mean assuming if this isnt your playthrough, its gonna get easier the more runs you do

[visual plover]

2 players atm but its master death

[desert garnet]

all master boss changes got removed

[visual plover]

and its.. incredibly easy

[balmy saddle]

same for me, i think damage values are bugged in multiplayer rn

[vestal osprey]

Yeah master mode AI got removed cause it was fucking ass

[balmy saddle]

brain`s creepers dealt 1 dmg to me with 36 defence

[desert garnet]

master doesnt suck anymore

[visual plover]

well then its expert death then? ig?

[balmy saddle]

same goes for bee

[desert garnet]

its death master stats

[vestal osprey]

Theres no expert death anymore

Revengence is only for expert

Death is only for master

[desert garnet]

the defense and dmg values got changed

[visual plover]

like where is the difficulty though

i just afk'd through perfs with victide armor

[desert garnet]

you dont get as much defense now

[balmy saddle]

still it`s not okay for a boss to deal 1 dmg in master death and i was a mage

[fierce nebula]

someone else today was saying this update is too hard

[radiant sparrow]

How hard is death mode compared to revengance? On a scale from its a little harder to its way harder

[desert garnet]

i agree

[visual plover]

i genuinely dont think ive ever had an easier time with perfs in calamity

[fierce nebula]

It's a fair bit harder due to master mode stats alone

[radiant sparrow]

It's too easy for me personally

[desert garnet]

havent played yet so idk whats the dmg values are now

you also gotta include if you are using qol which can make the bosses easier

[radiant sparrow]

Does death mode add an extra bunch of stats on-top of master?

[balmy saddle]

load a boss in single player to test, i think coop is bugged

[fierce nebula]

no I don't think so

actually

[radiant sparrow]

I'm a minimalist modder, I only have calamity, calamity vanities and magic storage and boss checklist

[formal plover]

chat how do I know if I'm playing with the updated version of calamity?

[balmy saddle]

check calamity version, it should be 2.1

[visual plover]

i solo'd it though, my friend was mining bahaha

[desert garnet]

look at the mod icon

[formal plover]

oh ok thank god, I've started playing when the update came out and for a moment I thought I played without it being updated lol

[prisma peak]

Has the infernum update today been to work with calamity 2.1?

[formal plover]

its the correct version

[balmy saddle]

doesn`t matter where he was, as i said i think dmg values are bugged in multiplayer

[desert garnet]

it been working for a long time now

[radiant sparrow]

Oh also golem is not complete fucking garbage anymore holy shit

[prisma peak]

oh damn ok

[visual plover]

ill check thens

[fierce nebula]

if it has this icon

[radiant sparrow]

Like golem is a tolerable and dare I say okay fight now

[formal plover]

ye ye has the icon, ngl I am in hard mode halfway through, if I was playing the unupdated version I would've lit my pc on fire

[balmy saddle]

oh and btw is there a way to increase respawn timer? 15 is way too low for boss fights

[desert garnet]

check calamity config in the settings

im suprised it still 15 secs

[balmy saddle]

it was 30 before some update

[visual plover]

wait do i not need to charge my laser disk anymore

[desert garnet]

30 in vanilla

and they changed it to 15 in bountifull update i think

[balmy saddle]

yeah ik, im talking about calamity update

[balmy saddle]

pretty stupid tbh

[desert garnet]

true

[balmy saddle]

you can kill anyboss if you can survive for just 15 secs

[desert garnet]

ill make a suggestion about it

15 secs is just too short

[stuck kite]

that sounds fabsolian

[balmy saddle]

calamity 2.1k: fabsol`s heresy

[stuck kite]

anyways yeah its in server settings

15-60 and its 15 by default

[visual plover]

helo altix

have you seen anything that points to multiplayer values being bugged

[stuck kite]

which

[visual plover]

all of em, it feels... very easy

[balmy saddle]

boss dmg in multiplayer might be bugged

[stuck kite]

not that im aware of

[visual plover]

like ive played ALOT of death mode and it feels like not death mode

[balmy saddle]

brain`s creeper attacks dealt 1 dmg to me in death master

i had 36 defence

[stuck kite]

they all set damage like they do any other enemy

[balmy saddle]

might just be a balance issue then

[radiant sparrow]

How is rogue in terms of playstyle and fun?

[cunning sequoia]

i like it :)

[desert garnet]

its fun

[radiant sparrow]

I've never played rogue before and I wanna do my first death mode on it

[desert garnet]

but some dont like its mechanic, and its ok to not like smth

[stuck kite]

nope there is definitely something wrong if a 97 damage attack does 1 damage with 36 def

[rough vine]

weren't boss damage overall nerfed

[stuck kite]

they were

[radiant sparrow]

Being you don't attack to charge up a beeeg fuck off attack right?

[desert garnet]

when you go around stealth, you dont attack so the bar can charge up, and then you do big cool attack which is different

[visual plover]

feels like damage and hp were nerfed alot, skeletron was hitting relatively hard but not as hard as i feel like he should?

[desert garnet]

it doesnt charge up long

you can also spam the weapons

[radiant sparrow]

And people dont like that?

[desert garnet]

some dont like waiting to attack and missing it

[radiant sparrow]

Just don't suck????

You have a cursor......

[desert garnet]

its understandable to not like it

[cunning sequoia]

a lot of people get frustrated with waiting to charge up then missing

[radiant sparrow]

I assume rogue weapons don't home?

[cunning sequoia]

its not a playstyle for everyone tbh

some of them do

[desert garnet]

some do

[tribal isle]

who even likes rogue just use melee and get spammable projectiles for free

[radiant sparrow]

It sounds like it's an "I actually have to aim" class yes?

[cunning sequoia]

pretty much

although spam is also an option if you want to

[lyric trellis]

Incomprehensible message

[cunning sequoia]

but like... just play ranger or something at that point

[balmy saddle]

also sit back and relax class in multiplayer

[tribal isle]

people only like using rogue for the op endgame stuff

[balmy saddle]

since stealth reduces your aggro rate

[desert garnet]

nah

[cunning sequoia]

rogue in multiplayer is either super comfortable or super frustrating

[radiant sparrow]

Which in turn allows you to hit your stealth strike?

[cunning sequoia]

because the boss is spasming around everywhere and you cant hit anything and usually you have to chase the damn thing around

[balmy saddle]

sometimes it really looks like a looney tunes episode

melee is running away from boss, boss chases melee, im chasing the boss and melee chases me to swap aggro

[fathom girder]

When do i get that uh. Scion'a curio ring? I kinda wanna swap my rogue build for a ranger setup using that

[tribal isle]

why is he not in the jungle

[earnest jewel]

Holiday.

[fathom girder]

The layers to that question make me ill

[cunning sequoia]

clearly the jungle is in front of him

you just cant see it

[tribal isle]

are they gonna add npc portraits when calamity gets ported to 1.4.5

[earnest jewel]

Yeah, I'd assume so.

[fathom girder]

They've already made a couple lol

[visual plover]

brain/worm tier weapons doing 400 consistent dps and beating wof pretty easily feels silly

i didn't drop below half HP the whole fight with a shitty hell bridge

[hidden belfry]

Every class is just a ranger but different weapons at some point

[visual plover]

correct

[wicked halo]

Pre-HM is a bit different from HM and Post-ML in that you kinda stick with your weapons most of the time.

[visual plover]

sure but death mode should feel like I have to update weapon consistently

[wicked halo]

Like the Blade of Grass can be used from start to Skeletron. Or how the Boomstick is valuable for pretty much all bosses 'cept WoF.

[visual plover]

and I was using magna cannon and fossil armor

[wicked halo]

Guess you can say that you stick to your guns in pre-HM.

[visual plover]

i sure did

[fathom girder]

Apparently belladonna staff has the minion despawning issue worse than some other summons

[pseudo vector]

a couple have been drafted but they're subject to change

[hidden belfry]

Did the pig get a change?

[fathom girder]

Ofc, I was just mentioning it to let em know that it's definitely happening

[amber egret]

is one of the drafts Mister Amidias
aka our SSO Tommorrow Champion

[fathom girder]

I know scal and the supposedly horrible hog have gotten drafts

[hidden belfry]

Aww man, the pig looks sick

[earnest jewel]

Calamitas portrait needs to make her look like she has a soul crushing job.

[fathom girder]

You'd never guess what her portrait looks like

[turbid latch]

How do I dodge Dog's net? My character flies too fast to dodge, and my mounts are too slow.

[lean relic]

oh dear oh god

[nocturne canyon]

Is it just me or is BoC bugged or smth?? i cant attack besides true melee and he almost has no attacks/projectiles.
it feels like the entity limit is full or something as soon as I summon him

I play on infernum btw

[desert garnet]

[tribal isle]

:ishowspeed:

[desert garnet]

Thats the issue, lower the diff

[nocturne canyon]

Wdym is infernum bugged?

[desert garnet]

Brain got reworked in base cal

Which bugged infernum brain

[nocturne canyon]

Oh I see

Thank you

[fathom girder]

Stop doing that

[nocturne canyon]

Do you know if something else is bugged? Like is infernum even playable rn

[vapid olive]

Hmmmmmm. . . . . . .I wonder when we will get the reworked sunken sea.

[fathom girder]

I wouldn't recommend infernum, basecal made most of the bosses interesting

[vapid olive]

and the reworked antlions overall.

[pseudo vector]

chances are our next update won't be the sunken sea, a lot of us are not interested in going back to the fish mines and would much rather do something else that interests us more

[tribal isle]

i thought expert and master ceased to exist and its rev and death from the start now

[pseudo vector]

you can change the difficulty once you load into your world

using the new difficulty ui

[hushed hazel]

no rev/death are extra layers you have the option to apply on top of expert/master, respectively

[nocturne canyon]

Should I play death mode then?

[pseudo vector]

go for it

[fathom girder]

Nothin's stopping you

[nocturne canyon]

Alr thanks for advice

[vapid olive]

Honestly I kinda was hyped up for the whole overhaul and rework of the sunken sea.

[fathom girder]

Oh, we all were

Brainstorm has done enough to keep me content tho. So much cool shit

Really gives us a good first impression of what future stuff will end up looking like

[vapid olive]

Ehhh some of the item removals and nerfs kinda made me iffy on playing.

[tribal isle]

already?

[fathom girder]

The nerfs are negligible, and the removed items were never anything to write home about anyway

[vapid olive]

Tbh the fact tesla potions were removed just for accessory slop. . . . .

[tribal isle]

were the calamity unnfers devs not fast enough or like what happened

[fathom girder]

HEY the tesla amulet is amazing

[pseudo vector]

the "nerfs" were part of a general mod rebalance that reduces the power creep, and makes the mod friendlier with vanilla and other mods

[hushed hazel]

tesla potions were potionslop

[distant agate]

is Astral ore only post Astrum Deus now?

[pseudo vector]

always was

[tribal isle]

how do i stack a morbillion buffs with alchemist npc now

[distant agate]

huh, wiki says its post astum Aureus

[spark kiln]

no

[tribal isle]

does it

[vapid olive]

https://youtu.be/x6M7XRgp5g0?si=e4-RSRUr5n8Yojoa

[pseudo vector]

i think you might be misreading a little lol

[tacit tiger]

what happened to infernum

[spark kiln]

just play it man

[pseudo vector]

astral ore has always been post-deus

[spark kiln]

stop judging the update before playing it

[distant agate]

"Astral Ore is a Hardmode ore that generates in the Astral Infection after the Wall of Flesh or Astrum Aureus have been defeated. However, destroying it before Astrum Deus has been defeated results in a 50% chance to drop 1 Starblight Soot"

oh ive misunderstood it

[spark kiln]

most of the crafting removals aren’t changing anything significant about your playthrough and whatever nerfs were made are compensated 1000 times by all the awesome reworks

[distant agate]

my bad gang

[pseudo vector]

lmao all good

[fathom girder]

Happens

[clear jolt]

Only 2 things make me want to use this: The Angler Golden Fishing Rod trick, and non consumable boss summons

[distant agate]

i thought it meant 50% chance to get soot and 50% chance to get ore lol

[pseudo vector]

btw hotfix update coming very soon

[tribal isle]

wait does it bring back reaver shark back to hellstone level and the golden fishing rod trick?

im downloading this

[clear jolt]

I haven't tested it, but i think the reaver shark still works

[tribal isle]

no they nerfed reaver shark

[clear jolt]

(also, on my playthrough yesterday, I got some hellstone bars, no idea how)

[pine moat]

im playing wtih it and i dont see any option to revert the reaver shark nerf

[clear jolt]

Ah, figured out from where

[pine moat]

slurper pole -> farm for some of the drops -> shimmer to hellstone

[tribal isle]

nvm im not downloading this
golden rod is useless if reaver shark is still useless

[clear jolt]

I miss the Bladecrest Oathsword from the chest

[gritty musk]

oh they got rid of non consumable boss summons lmfao ok im getting this hopefully you can turn off all the like actual nerfs though i dont wanna actually change balance

[pine moat]

there are cool changes, like you can toggle what you want and there's a new feature of letting you shimmer boss drops. also brings back some of the vanilla items' calamity reci0pes

[tribal isle]

wait they got rid of non consumable boss summons???? why?????

[gritty musk]

hope im getting oneguyed

[pine moat]

i think it's drop exclusive now?

[clear jolt]

Yeah, which sucks

Since it was always a super good early game weapon

[pseudo vector]

its still very much worth getting

[pine moat]

im not seeing it in the changelog though

[clear jolt]

The 2% chance to get it pre EoW from demons is just too low now

[pine moat]

just an average of 50 kills you can do 9t

[pseudo vector]

bladecrest oathsword and old lord claymore are both very good

[clear jolt]

I'd rather just get blade of grass in that timeframe

[fierce nebula]

Is the spin attack from old lord claymore gone

[pine moat]

nooo

here are the configs for qol restored if ure interested

[jagged copper]

alright time to use Orderbringer against WoTM Exos...why have they started in the mayhem phase?

[clear jolt]

I haven't checked, but please, they better not have nerfed the aerilite sword

[wicked halo]

Yeah it's a true melee burst weapon now.

[gritty musk]

weird that you can get it pre-boss its just really grindy thats a lil cringe imo, just make it post-evil 1 tier its clearly supposed to be

[pine moat]

we're boss rushing with this config xd

[pseudo vector]

nowadays its a really heavy hitting true melee sword with slow swing speed

[fierce nebula]

I’m awful at close range 🥀

[wicked halo]

Dw it straight up obliterates the Perforator Worms.

[pseudo vector]

it has really good synergy with oathsword

[fierce nebula]

Well you do combine them

[pine moat]

it's also a technically a post evil 1 wep, no? the drop rate more than triples after u kill one

[fathom girder]

Finding that hidden synergy was so hype

[tribal isle]

so cool

[gritty musk]

exactly, its supposed to be a post evil 1 weapon so idk why its also dropped pre boss lol, just very rarely

[pseudo vector]

you should click rev and death's buttons

[fierce nebula]

🐇

[pseudo vector]

i made custom sounds for them

[pine moat]

the more options the merrier, or idk

[gritty musk]

rev activation sound is tuff

[fierce nebula]

Oh you made the sounds?

[tribal isle]

yeah i did
they sound sick

[fierce nebula]

Death mode activation sound is actually good now

[pseudo vector]

i made custom sounds for rev, death and malice
and then i grabbed the toby fox explosion for legendary

because i thought it would be funny

[gritty musk]

LMFAO perfect

[fierce nebula]

It’s fitting

[pine moat]

i can hear this sentence

[fierce nebula]

Cause of the explosive bunny

[pseudo vector]

also the malice select sound samples the femur breaker

[misty monolith]

whats the best mage weapon for brain !

[gritty musk]

didnt realize you can activate ftw through that menu would be nice if you didnt need to actually have a ftw world and the menu could just turn it on
ik it has worldgen features but still

would also make it more apparant that cal changes ftw

[pseudo vector]

acid gun is my personal pick for brain

[tribal isle]

ok wow i thought quite enough recipes was better than recipe browser but this big ass screen is just inconvenient

[pseudo vector]

has good multi-target coverage

[pseudo vector]

you can right click on an item to see all the recipes its used in

like in minecraft

[gritty musk]

evil recipe browser

[pseudo vector]

i personally use quite enough recipes

its pretty nice

[misty monolith]

noted :) ty

[gritty musk]

whats the advantage over browser?

[mellow stag]

is there any way to remove this "armor" thingy from xyk blessing and only leave wings?

[gritty musk]

never heard of it tbh

[pseudo vector]

i personally prefer the ui

[cunning sequoia]

acrobatics pack is still so fun

[pseudo vector]

uhhhhhh not sure

[tribal isle]

yeah its nice but i liked the compactness of recipe browser

[pseudo vector]

fair

i prefer being able to see more of what i'm looking for personally

[mellow stag]

i think i had a bug that made armor not appear when update just came out so i was wondering if u can do this again

[tribal isle]

wheres the auric upgrade for the acrobatics pack

[pseudo vector]

its just personal preference tho

[lavish inlet]

You can do this is recipe browser by double clicking...

[pseudo vector]

[tribal isle]

yuh

[gritty musk]

magic storage plus inventory plus recipe browser just barely fits nicely on the screen that shit would not fly lmao

[inner timber]

aurobatics pack

[inner timber]

ok but does recipe browser show you boss bag drops and the percentages and shops and crate drops and drop conditions and

[gritty musk]

shows boss and enemy drops but not percentages. does show shops and selling conditions (unless thats another mod i have icr lmao)

if you really wanna know a percentage quickly wikithis is good enough though imo

[fathom girder]

Does amalgam apply irradiated? Cuz I see an amalgam scion's curio mega combo

[fierce nebula]

✅

[amber egret]

i thought acrobatics pack was just like
Overhaul Grapple Physics
NOT caloverhaul.

[fierce nebula]

Bad update there’s no new acrobatics pack

[trail brook]

I just fought the boc and its freaking awesome

I can see why the update called brain storm

[amber egret]

they shoulda got an EoW rework out and called it Brainrot

[fierce nebula]

Tuff 💀

[amber egret]

no i said Brainrot for a reason

[left torrent]

That would be cool!!! I would like it a lot if corruption was more emphasized as rot and decay, since it seems to be literally causing the land to open up and fester

[fierce nebula]

Steal a brainrot 💀 🔥

[jagged copper]

and that's gg

[fathom girder]

would it be a shitpost to use IV drip on the rocks with luxor's

[pine moat]

40 mana? is there some accessory that trades mana for something? or u just didn't use mana crystals? GZ though

[jagged copper]

no, I'm just not a mage

[fathom girder]

melee builds don't need mana

[jagged copper]

also is Orderbringer peak?

The answer: ||yes||

[hushed hazel]

they should do an EoW rework and call it Wormhell

[west isle]

when reading the patchnotes i saw some weps getting their iframes set to -1 or smth like that anyone know what that means

[bright crane]

Who made these new sprites?

[unique warren]

Idk but I must say they match the style of the Ark of the Elements quite well

[bright crane]

Also, are the celestial axe minions placeholders? I mean, it's just copypasted weapon sprite for now but ik legion of celestia doesn't have a rework yet so I'm asking

[bright crane]

They do hopefully

[unique warren]

I have no authority on this obvs but I would be inclined to assume that is the case, yes

[bright crane]

I see

[unique warren]

I do believe only Elemental Shiv (now Lightspeed) and Elemental Erruption (now Chromatic Erruption) were reworked, of course excluding the much earlier Ark of the Elements rework

[bright crane]

chromatic eruption wasn't reworked, but it got a vfx change way earlier

Fully reworked are lightspeed, aote, and superradiant

[unique warren]

Huh, I had sworn…

I remember using it just the other day and it didn’t work like in the wiki’s demo gif…

[bright crane]

Because it received a visual rework but it was way before this update

[hoary merlin]

This weapon is insane

[spiral tree]

I dreamt that I had irl friends and we were all playing terraria

I'm heart broken that it's not real

[unique warren]

Well yes but the wiki gif is dated in 2024, and that update was 2023

[bright crane]

Oh

[hoary merlin]

that was a good dream

[unique warren]

I must just be misremembering is all

[unique warren]

That’s rough, bud.

[bright crane]

Oh, I get that feeling :(

[unique warren]

I must say, the new elemental weapon resprites are quite interesting. They have mostly their class lunar colors, but also sprinkles of the colors for other ones

Ark of the Elements is primarily orange but has snippets of green and especially blue

[bright crane]

Plain colors are just boring so blending them is more interesting

[unique warren]

Yup, glad they did so, but it makes the removal of galactica singularities the recipe feel a tad odd

[peak night]

Is master death mode supposed to be so easy? It's so different than the old master death

[bright crane]

Kinda

[bright crane]

It got balance changes iirc

[fierce nebula]

Old master death was dumb and stupid and dumb

[grizzled orbit]

Brb giving every enemy gauss nukes

[bright crane]

FR

[peak night]

So dumb i had to skip evil boss straight to slime god

[bright crane]

and fabsolian boss fight design

[bright crane]

That's so true

[unique warren]

I must say, I’m very interested in how the rogue elemental weapons will be resprited

[regal vessel]

Yea lowk maater death is easier than vanilla master

[peak night]

But seriously though it feels too easy even for a rebalance, i guess i have to play on ftw malice then

[unique warren]

I mean, meld constructs look SO different from other lunar class themes

[peak night]

It's easier than the old master revengeance imo

[bright crane]

They will have orchid color, something between pink and red as it was the only color in the color wheel that wasn't used for elemental weapons

Full rainbow now

[unique warren]

But the color is primarily based on their material

[bright crane]

Yeeah

[fathom girder]

yeah I'm shoving lilacs into my rogue weapons

[bright crane]

Kinda

[unique warren]

Guh what huh

[fathom girder]

making them ourple

[bright crane]

That was posted by one dev in this channel

[unique warren]

Oh damn ok interesting

[fathom girder]

This will be for the secret thrower class

[raw falcon]

isnt that just hot pink?

[fathom girder]

NO...

[unique warren]

I feel like this would necessitate a meld redesign is the thing, which I am unsure how to feel about…? Well honestly I’m not sure at all

[fathom girder]

meld is a purposeful outlier pretty sure

[unique warren]

Meld is certainly rogue leaning but it has its other class weapons

[pseudo vector]

uhhhhh idk who made these sprites tbh

[bright crane]

Nope, I don't think so

[bright crane]

ic ic

[fathom girder]

whoever made em is goated

I love those designs

[bright crane]

frfr

[fathom girder]

kinda silly how the elemental staff has such a good sprite but still has those old lasers though

[unique warren]

It has to be the person who made the AotE sprite

[fathom girder]

not the worst thing ever

[bright crane]

It's not

[raw falcon]

to be fair meld is just kinda wierd in general

[unique warren]

Yeahhh like its theme isn’t very rogue specific

[raw falcon]

Its the only fragment adjacent thing that has weapons made only from itself for every class

[fathom girder]

its theme is XEROC

and xeroc is DARK and EDGY...

(old lore)

[barren nacelle]

is elden diorama obtainable atm?

[fathom girder]

it will be, but it isn't rn

might be in the next patch who knows

[unique warren]

There are weapons from other classes that use the “incorrect” fragments (the Swarmer, for example) but it also doesn’t inherit the theme of stardust equipment

[barren nacelle]

prob, wouldn't be surprised if it gets added with the unobtainable walls

[raw falcon]

i know, hence why i specified that the meld weapons are only made with itself

I dont know if thats worded well, but yeah

[unique warren]

Ya ya, it makes it a weird thing to work around

[bright crane]

elemental rogue is an exception because colors of meld aren't colors on the color wheel

rainbow doesn't have a black color ngl

[unique warren]

I don’t quite like that

[fathom girder]

Meld is every color and therefore it is black because that's color theory babyyyyyy

[unique warren]

I mean, just having an exception like that

[fathom girder]

well it's either black or it's brown cuz brown is what conglomerates of colors often turn into thanks to our eyes yadda yadda yadda

[red bear]

is there a way to play calamity on 1.4.5 or when i could play?

[fathom girder]

you'll have to wait for the port

which could be months from now

[red bear]

months fr?

[unique warren]

That’s more of a subtractive color mixing thing for brown

[bright crane]

color theory is related to ryb not rgb

[fathom girder]

oh yeah- all that stuff in 1.4.5 has to be reformatted to be moddable and whatnot, it's quite the undertaking

[fathom girder]

oh whups

[young steeple]

How do u get the metal worm pet that mines for you

[fierce nebula]

It spawns

[young steeple]

O i thought it was a pet

[bright crane]

rbg are different wavelengths of light iirc and elemental ones are light-based sooo

[fathom girder]

iirc there's a chance that killing that thing also drops a pet variant of it?

[fierce nebula]

No but it’s friendly

[fathom girder]

in order to kill it you need an electric debuff to stun it

[fierce nebula]

Oooooooh

[pseudo vector]

tmod 1.4.5 likely won't be available for users until later in 2026

[young steeple]

I want it so bad

[red bear]

oh okay

[west isle]

may i ask why did they decide to make the post plantera events have their summon item be consumable?

[fierce nebula]

Because event summons are easy to craft

[fathom girder]

cuz they're easily renewable and you can rather easily farm it with bakidon/cosmolite

cosmi-whatever it is

not cosmolite lmao

the upgrade to bakidon

[fierce nebula]

Most boss summons are easy to craft too but they’re all still nonconsumable

[unique warren]

Cosmolight

You were close lol

[fathom girder]

FUCK

thanks

[fathom girder]

cuz bosses are CRINGE and EMO and

[austere thunder]

is this normal since the update?

[grave rock]

hiya

[austere thunder]

ive got like 2 more of them

[gritty musk]

this is how tmod shows removed items, of which there were a few this update

plague keeper gone but not forgotton

[austere thunder]

ohhh

[fathom girder]

you will be missed(not)

[austere thunder]

ngl i dont even remember what i had first slot

[gritty musk]

did they remove plague keeper for being boring? it kinda was but holy shit it was so so strong

like idk how i wouldve done infernum guardians without it

[fathom girder]

It was just the plague decanter 2

sorry, alchemical decanter

[silver shuttle]

Apparently it’s to nerf money farming from events

[fathom girder]

the effects were basically moved to this thing

[austere thunder]

wait so rotten matter and murky paste also got removed?

[fathom girder]

yeag

[austere thunder]

damn

[gritty musk]

asteroid staff is another one that was alittle boring but damn good, i think it deserved life

meteor staff is cool

[west isle]

as if you cant just get infinite money from dryad and shimmer

[fathom girder]

There's like. so many things mages have already at that stage

was the issue

they had to axe somethin'

[grave rock]

whats the most reliable way to farm for blood orbs during prehm? now that bloody tears are consumable

[gritty musk]

true but did they have to lose their best weapon for providence

[fathom girder]

oh they got something much

MUCH better

look up teslastaff on your recipe finder

[grizzled orbit]

Mages have had it good for too long

Give my ranger a plasma rifle

[gritty musk]

its post-provi

[grizzled orbit]

"Electro storm sniper" :D -> "it's mage" D:

[fathom girder]

sentinels don't HAVE to be post provi

[gritty musk]

i guess

[fathom girder]

Nothing's stopping you from going out and killing stormweaver early

[gritty musk]

also its not even new tbf lmao

[grave rock]

i mean post ML seems toget this

[fathom girder]

Oh uh, teslastaff is really really stupid with arc flash ring and chaos stone

[silver shuttle]

I usually just skip the sentinels and fight polterghast

[fathom girder]

that combo obliterates providence

[silver shuttle]

Because ceaseless sucked

[grave rock]

tbh i dont think "just do sentinels early" is that good of a suggestion? like yeah i think its ok to have it as an option but
yk

[gritty musk]

i mean yeah ofc it does its a sentinel weapon lmfao

[fathom girder]

It's TECH

[vocal kelp]

farming, blood moons, just the same?

also fish

[grave rock]

so...wait like 20 mins in a bed for one to spawn? :/

[vocal kelp]

you'd have had to do the same before getting a bloody tear?

[barren nacelle]

Teslastaff is finally good?!?

[fathom girder]

oh yeah

it needs that combo and full rampup but

it will absolutely fuck provi up

I think I got like 20k dps on her at one point

[stable dove]

yo is that gauntlet thing a new mage weapon?

[fathom girder]

UGH why does ranger luxor projectiles hit terrain it is useless when i'm in a cave or on the ground

So annoying

[distant agate]

there is a 0% chance that the game isnt bugged to give warding 10x less than other reforges

theres no way im getting it this infrequents

[fathom girder]

Curse of unlucky

[vivid creek]

wait the Iridescent Excalibur was removed?

anyone know if there's an replacement or why did they remove it

[deep bough]

orderbringer

[vivid creek]

alright thanks

[wise bolt]

well yeah it does that. it does that a lot

[distant agate]

ok am i missing something, bc it seems like most of the post-moon lord magic weapons just seem worse than the nebula blaze

[icy stump]

No, boss summoning items still be non-consumable

[fierce nebula]

I wish

[gritty musk]

ceaseless is better when you use glorious end for its death rattle attack

[misty wren]

planned for 2.1.1 iirc

[fierce nebula]

Really!!!??

[misty wren]

i remember hearing that

[distant agate]

yay, i was just talking to my friend about how i want them gone, they encorage some super easy money farming

[misty wren]

event summons are consumable now at least

[fierce nebula]

Me when I place a crystal shard on a hammered platform

[gritty musk]

the sinister 40 free infinite money vanilla strategies:

[distant agate]

i straight up dont know any of them lol

[fathom girder]

????????????????????

hurh

[distant agate]

but i do know that killing eye of cuthulu 50 times in 1 night is super easy and gives me 20 plat

[fierce nebula]

Crystal shard dupe?

[misty wren]

calamity makes it simply way too easy

[fathom girder]

I didn't know there was a dupe lol

[fierce nebula]

It’s goated

Because I hate farming money

[upbeat hare]

When will a bug fix come out? There are a lot of annoying bugs rn

[gritty musk]

slime staff lucky coin, pirate afk farm, jungle seed shimmer for selling green thread, all easier and more free then just fighting bosses

[misty wren]

pirate afk farm is not easier than fighting eow like 30 times

[gritty musk]

the setup is a bit of a pain but you leave that shit on and youre set for ages

still, making bosses actually hard kinda neccessitates infinite summons

[fathom girder]

my favorite platinum strat

[distant agate]

yea, having to clear the pillars multiple times to keep fighting moonlord would kinda blow ass

[fierce nebula]

Many boss summons are very easy to craft

[deep bough]

W

[fierce nebula]

That should stay unconsumable lol

[gritty musk]

ok and some aren't lmfao

[fierce nebula]

I know

[misty wren]

thats why the workaround is planned to be if the boss leaves without it dying you get a new copy of the summon

[hushed hazel]

i did hear someone mention the idea of only consuming boss summons when you win

[icy stump]

Iirc, summoning items would restore if you died during the first defeat

[deep bough]

this is peak

[gritty musk]

now that i can get behind

[fathom girder]

Doze tossed the idea out here on brainstorm release day

and then I think sunny mentioned it afterwards too

[hollow harness]

yea that is the whole plan

[fierce nebula]

That would be good

[distant agate]

that would be sick

[hushed hazel]

so you can get as many attempts as you need while still requiring some effort if you want to put a boss in a blender for money

[upbeat hare]

that would be great

[fathom girder]

There was also word that the later bosses won't be using the usual "boss items" to be spawned in anyway

[icy stump]

It's like how works in Fargos

[hushed hazel]

well in fargo's you only get free attempts until you win once

[icy stump]

Similar then

[high scaffold]

I got to hardmode finaly

[vestal osprey]

Fargos boss summons also work a tiny bit differently as they try to make a boss summon more convenient

For example it would set all bosses you fight during night at the earliest point in night so you have ample time to fight

[high scaffold]

Why is monolith sword so good

All you need is to chop down one monolith and you got a 1000+ dps true melee weapon

1500+ dps on a dummy

Its ofc not better then star crash but it does help as a small stepping stone to farm astral enemies for a bit

Monolith bow looks promising too but havent tried

[gritty musk]

id be surprised if its better than like shadowflame bow or marrow but probably solid for requiring one alien tree

[high scaffold]

For a weapon you get 1 minute after entering hardmode it doesnt need to shred bosses in 10 seconds

Although it might be very good with some arrows

As it shoots in bursts

[mild atlas]

would it be crazy to say the wulfrum knives rework is one of my top favorite changes in the update

[low pendant]

Does anyone know when tmod is going to go to 1.4.5

[high scaffold]

Not soon

[chrome pollen]

tbh the best thing about terraria mods is how slow they are to update

prioritization of quality is way better than so many other games

[icy stump]

Late 2026

[high scaffold]

If brainstorm is so good Im left only to wonder how good SSO and other future updates will be

I realy want to see other arsenal weapons reworks and have a look on t1 arsenal armor

[jade shard]

is it just me or reworked vengeful sun staff make ur fps dropped 😐

oh someone already posted it on bug report lol, guess not just me

[amber furnace]

im guessing that its gonna come by the end of September or october

[next flint]

Hey guys, just joined this discord for the first time to ask this question. Since the recent update the urchin stinger rogue weapon has been turned into a non consumable and had its drop rate drastically reduced, however the crafting recipe for the ball O fugu has not been adjusted. Grinding 20 stingers with a droprate of 6% seems kinda ridiculous, no?

[cloud venture]

What's the first armor to craft on summoner in the new update?

[vestal osprey]

Still wulfrum or flinx

[cloud venture]

thx

[cunning sequoia]

there's no recipe for the ball o fugu

it's found in abyss chests

or hardmode sulph sea crates

[next flint]

does this not work anymore, then?

[icy stump]

Infernum recipe?

[cunning sequoia]

i dont think thats a calamity recipe, check what it says there

oh yeah infernum

yeah seems to be outdated

[next flint]

ah ok good to know thx

[small wagon]

did the iridescent Excalibur get removed

[fresh gull]

did calamity nerf reaver shark?

[gray carbon]

wasn't that sword getting a rework what

[rustic kernel]

Where can Plantera's arena and Temple be?

[gray carbon]

oh no i think orderbringer took its place instead

[small wagon]

uhh idk, I haven't played in ages and now I can only find the orderbringer

[small wagon]

oh

[deft lintel]

guys

[fresh gull]

did calamity nerf the reaver shark??? i dont know why it wont work anymore

[small wagon]

now idk what sword to use for wotg

[deft lintel]

that thing where the angler drops a golden rod whenever hes killed by a trasher, was it removed?

[spark belfry]

Yes

[deft lintel]

they took everything from us

[fresh gull]

yo yk why reaver shark wont break hellstone?

[deft lintel]

btw whats the new early fishing meta

[dull heart]

new most broken item

[deft lintel]

on my game it was nerfed as well

likely also nerfed

[fresh gull]

i remember that only vanilla did that...

[deft lintel]

whats this

[cunning sequoia]

ah yes

child labor

the meta

[dull heart]

Cal no longer un nerfs it

[cunning sequoia]

old duke would be proud

[fresh gull]

bruh now killing skeletron will be way harder

[dull heart]

Just male Nightmare pickaxe??

Or Deatbrjnger

If you're skipping bosses then yeah i guess it'll be harder

[tropic jolt]

skipping bosses makes the game… harder? 😨

[pseudo vector]

earth

[zealous gyro]

copper shortsword

[pseudo vector]

comedy

[fierce nebula]

True copper shortsword

Would unironically work

[safe zephyr]

Earth is good for Wotg? I thought about playing it wit my tMelee char

[polar tide]

brainstorm earth rework is goated

[wide wadi]

what is that

[polar tide]

what is what

[gray carbon]

just deatomize the bosses with your mind atp weapons are useless

[forest turret]

Is there any ETA on a patch to fix the burrower deleting projectiles? not sure where to ask this

[hollow totem]

but new set bonus God slayer are weird for me :(

[zealous gyro]

let the boss do damage to itself. full thorns 1 million defense build

[polar tide]

???????? what does that have anything to do with what i said what

[hollow totem]

don't know

[polar tide]

okay.

[dull heart]

Not publicly known yet but soon

[forest turret]

Ah okay thanks and sorry if this is the wrong channel, just hoping to play some multiplayer sometime

[dull heart]

This is a fine channel for that

[safe zephyr]

I asked that yesterday and didn't get an answer, Ig since the bobbers are new I'd ask here, do the bobbers make you not lose bait?

[hollow totem]

but why didn't the developers make a switch for the God Slayer set bonus between the current bonus and the one from Calamity 2.07?
I think I'm not the only one who's such a whiner about this.

[dull heart]

Apparently

They're bugged

[safe zephyr]

Right

[polar tide]

dude why is this my problem

i wasnt even talking about that 😭

[hollow totem]

sorry, I accidentally pinged you

[dull heart]

Actually ive yet to see another complaint about it tbh

[twin juniper]

they changed wat

[hollow totem]

Google Translate Hard

[dull heart]

God Slayer Dash / Dimensional Drive got reworked

[granite sapphire]

this took so unbelievably long
I swapped to vortex beater for no hit since i didnt wanna aim

[jade shard]

oh dev here

[dull heart]

Should have just used grape beer with scorched earth tbh

[granite sapphire]

still prolly not using it though lol

[wide wadi]

Reworked is pog

[jade shard]

there is a bug for hm sun staff

uhh vengeance one forgot the name

[twin juniper]

gonna check out this

[wide wadi]

You play ark survival evolved

[jade shard]

*vengeful sun staff

basically it will reduce your fps when summoned

[twin roost]

DoG just left.

[wide wadi]

Just get a good computer

[twin roost]

Straight up dipped.

[wide wadi]

Get the 5090

[safe zephyr]

I kinda wish there'll at some point be some kinda pre-Aerialite lab weapons to make a full lab run possible

[wide wadi]

And a ryzen 9050

[granite sapphire]

dont even need to, it got optimized really well

[wide wadi]

[hollow totem]

I don't think it's for the better
Like, they could have made it a switch like the one on Seraphim's boots.

[tired adder]

and I thought storm saber was too good

[wide wadi]

I like optimization

[granite sapphire]

using a hand me down computer, no gaming specs and its still running a solid 30 consistently

[wide wadi]

Me play on my Mac

[tulip plume]

Does infernum still have the new and/or redesigned structures that calamity added in the update?

[granite sapphire]

yeah but Infenrum isn't worth playing for 2.1 on your first playthrough

[wide wadi]

I was in class thinking about terraria all day

[granite sapphire]

death Master isnt awful to play anymore so do that

[tired adder]

at least, at least...

[tulip plume]

Just abt as correct as u can be

[tired adder]

it cannot benefit from starbeam rye

[dull heart]

Star Beam Rye is on its last legs

[tropic jolt]

who gave it legs is it evolving

[twin roost]

Evil satan void title screen!!

[pine moat]

are there currently no "superbosses" in the game?

[safe zephyr]

There's primordial wyrm

[dull heart]

Huh

[twin roost]

No, get unofficial addons for superbosses.

[pine moat]

based on what i read so far, calamitas and wyrm were superbosses but they got nerfed to be just bosses or secret bosses (for the latter)

[dull heart]

There is not

[azure oak]

nice lil screenshot i got while fishing

[tired adder]

can we get current version being made with SCal's drops?

[pine moat]

ic , thanks the three of you

[twin roost]

Silly bug not Cal related. DoG did have a bug though where it goes to do that rift dash attack but just never came back.

[native thistle]

welp, no calamity for me for today 🙁

[pine moat]

no time to play?

[native thistle]

game crushes lol

[pine moat]

that's odd, you should start narrowing down your mods

[tired adder]

would be fitting if strongest mage-related effect was made with help of strongest mage in the setting

[mystic eagle]

No.

[pine moat]

it's hard to install calamity incorrectly as all you do is press a button. tmodloader auto updates to the latest it can be, terraria mods update on their own, so the only culprits are the other mods that conflict with each other

for stellaris, you gotta fix your mod load order 🥹

[dull heart]

I bet Sergeant United Shield cheeses dog dashes

[young notch]

Literally evo moment 37

[hardy gulch]

terraria.exe

[rustic kernel]

Who of bosses drops hallowed key?

Hallowed Mimic I see, no longer Queen Slime

[dull heart]

I think we removed boss key drops or something

[tired adder]

...I honestly do not get why some keys are dropped by mimics

that kinda disproportionally affects other classes

[fathom girder]

Dooooze is the ranger projectile from Luxor's Gift supposed to collide with tiles
cuz it likes to not function at all when I'm shooting things on the ground cuz of that

[rustic kernel]

Yup, Hallowed Mimic #4 dropped it

[tired adder]

since for light and night souls you basically have double odds

[dull heart]

Idk

[fathom girder]

okey

[tired adder]

as you roll while gathering the souls

and you roll on mimic kill