calamity-update-talk

[mellow spade]

and thus concludes my first run since Brainstorm released

my thoughts on death mode? honestly, it's not as bad as I thought. really the only bosses that were awful were Fishron, CV, and Polter.

[mellow spade]

and yes, this was with blazing star lmao

[white nexus]

And then when I found out those minions I was using were worthlessly broken, I couldn’t even remove them. Then when I switched to a minion that would attack they started randomly vanishing while still taking up minion slots, so I had to remove their buff before I could summon them again. Beyond that, it’s being generally unstable.

It’s a full micromanagement sweep to play summoner for me and several others right now.

[mellow spade]

5 minute scal for a post mech 1 weapon 💀

i guess time to make the shadowspec rogue weapons then go do boss rush

[amber egret]

just go in a box and use blazing star

[unique warren]

I love unbalanced weapons

[amber egret]

star beam rye :DDD

[unique warren]

I was being sarcastic

[amber egret]

:(

[rose laurel]

Doze accidentally creating the most absurdly overpowered shit of all time:

[unique warren]

Nah I can see why you like it I’m just too balancepilled

[amber egret]

i dont even know how Star Beam Rye works

[rose laurel]

Bro it's so funny

[mellow spade]

it is funny but for the good of the mod it needs balancing

[amber egret]

i just know that it vaporizes shit with Phantasmal Fury

• it obliterated Mutant so i dont have to do that ever again

[rose laurel]

It's so funny how half of the Doze reworks are just

Ludicrous

[lyric trellis]

Doze balancing SBR around use time 😭

[unique warren]

Okay wait how is star beam rye not just straight up a complete positive

[mellow spade]

random side note i thought about yesterday, summoner's probably busted for ravager

[unique warren]

STEEL BALL RUN?????????????????

[amber egret]

mana drain
you might use a lot of mana really fast and then not have mana
(unless you have mana cuffs and can take a hit)

[mellow spade]

cuz you could just swing a pickaxe the whole fight and never worry about the pillars

[lyric trellis]

Not quite

[rose laurel]

Star Beam Rye is so funny

Because it's so fucked that Doze just

Re-reworked it

[amber egret]

its really funny but also its Quite Good
hit hardmode and just. Win

[hasty tangle]

in the next dev build, i assume?

[rose laurel]

Yeah

[unique warren]

Isn’t 20 mana per second quite a bit

[rose laurel]

I don't mean anything I'm saying here as shade towards Doze btw I just think it's really funny

[lyric trellis]

“mana cost/use time * 100” The nefarious holdouts:

[rose laurel]

"Today, I will rework weapons "

[mellow spade]

GP have you seen what blazing star does to scal

[hasty tangle]

no

[amber egret]

so what you want something with a really high mana cost but a really low use time ?

like 100 mana cost but very fast use time

[lyric trellis]

Phantasmal Fury rework

[mellow spade]

blazing star re-hits enemies after bouncing off a tile, the outside of scal's arena counts as "tiles", it bounces off them every single tick, and goes through them as well

leading to about 50k DPS on scal with a post mech 1 weapon

[amber egret]

100/4 = 25 * 100 = 2500%

[mellow spade]

so just make sure scal's outside her arena border when you use it and she just... dies

[hasty tangle]

incredible

[mellow spade]

(this also works on cal clone)

you can go from BH1 to BH2, skipping the brothers phase entirely cuz they die the second they spawn

[hasty tangle]

just goes to show how hard it is to comphrensively test everything before releasing an update

[unique warren]

Idk how y’all missed the tainted stuff tbh

[dull heart]

Phan Fy
Ury is 80 and 3

2666%

[amber egret]

wait 3 ?

is 3 slow or is 3 fast

[dull heart]

why would we be testing every item tainted

[mellow spade]

it took me a while to figure out what was going on tbh, if I wasn't so dead-set on using it for cal clone i wouldn't have discovered it

[dull heart]

Fast

[amber egret]

comedy

[unique warren]

I noticed it practically instantly cause tainted iri was pretty commonly used iirc

[amber egret]

does it boost summon damage or just magic damage

[unique warren]

Like it was the second weapon I swung

[fathom girder]

um. I think he had enough of my regen tank immortality

[dull heart]

Magic

[amber egret]

darn

[unique warren]

Bye bye Mr worm!

[jagged copper]

CV down, 10x better than before

[dull heart]

cv kinda boring now tbh

might bring back his movement in death

[jagged copper]

boring but not bullshit

[mystic eagle]

AS has been used as a rocket by Nasa for years at this point

[jagged copper]

no

[unique warren]

I have not done CV as of late but isn’t the “issue” most have with it that they have to engage with the boss

[hasty tangle]

AS holds promise for reducing the price of space travel a hundredfold

[jagged copper]

the movement is why people hated it

[mystic eagle]

Why not make it slowly move to a marked spot every once in a while

[unique warren]

Okay so I was right got it

[dull heart]

i dont wanna touch the fabcod3

[amber egret]

have it do funny little drawings with its face

[dull heart]

Making it dewth ijstead of FTW is eazy

[jagged copper]

Death could maybe have it do something similar to old malice, the energies cycle faster and cover a larger area

[unique warren]

Honestly I think CV seems pretty interesting with the movement change cause it’s a boss with a gimmick you have to engage with instead of being run away slop

[urban cloak]

☹️

we can get more creative than that cmon

[jagged copper]

it's a lot more intuitive now, focusing much more on taking it slow when weaving

[fathom girder]

bring it back in malice and double the speed tbh

[urban cloak]

that movement was like the sole reason people hated him

[dull heart]

it was also why a lot of people liked him

[unique warren]

…mostly because they had to engage with a gimmick and adapt (this is impossible for cal players)

[fathom girder]

Why does CV still operate with the orbs, anyway? They're kinda. a pain in the ass even when he isn't moving

[jagged copper]

I feel like we should focus on that ability to weave between the energies

[urban cloak]

i guess im speaking with some bias then cause its definitely why i hated him

[fathom girder]

like can't he be anything else

[mellow spade]

I don't know how feasible this would be, but it'd be nice if calamity had a special DPS meter for debuff damage

[urban cloak]

but like yeah fab is gone we can come up with more creative ways to make him harder

do that instead please

[mellow spade]

It'd be nice to know how much damage debuffs are contributing

[urban cloak]

‼️

[dull heart]

I have seen more complaints about CV changes than people happy about it so far

[unique warren]

He should be low priority imo

[urban cloak]

thats kinda crazy icl

[rose laurel]

I would wager that's because no one cares about CV

[dull heart]

but rev/death divide makes sense i think

[rose laurel]

[unique warren]

Like, he’s a boss you can’t just constantly run from and that cannot be said for other bosses so those should take priority

[jagged copper]

they can keep crying, he's better now

[fathom girder]

Don't count my complaints I hate all the sentinels just because I feel they're lame as fuck and annoying to fight

[unique warren]

Tbf you could also keep crying in this case

[dense mirage]

hi is the update backwards compatible? or do I need to make a new world with the updated mods

[rose laurel]

Like no one is gonna be like "oh my God they made CV a good Boss now! Thank you, Calamity devs, he is now my favorite."

But the people who did like CV will obviously complain

[unique warren]

Well yeah they’re pretty indicative of almost all cal bosses

[barren nacelle]

CV I think could be improved by iterating on what there is with the stationary form

[fathom girder]

I never liked CV and still don't, lol

[barren nacelle]

Stuff like dark plasma variants that behave differently or such

[hasty tangle]

what's new void like anyway?

[mellow spade]

after going through every boss in death mode only three bosses truly sucked to fight

[fathom girder]

The plasma orbs give me cancer

[jagged copper]

it's more the case he's gone from terrible to just, meh. Which is a step in the right direction

[mellow spade]

Fishron and Polter felt like other issues

[dense mirage]

can someone answer I didnt find the answer in the pins

[fathom girder]

THE PLASMA ORBS KILLED MY GRANDMA OKAY

[unique warren]

Like, Signus and Storm weaver are IMO the most reflective of cal boss design when most bosses were added cause it’s mostly awful

[still bluff]

Cam you make him randomly teleport and swap with one of the orbs in malice

[mellow spade]

CV? nah he just sucks

[urban cloak]

we literally just removed the occasional shift in movement he makes around the player during the dark energy phases and like a lot of dev agreed it made him better

[solar harbor]

anyone know where to easily get hotdogs/ steaks now that they arent sold by npcs

[urban cloak]

one of the good things mr fabsol did before his departure

[hasty tangle]

hmmm ok

[barren nacelle]

Halfway through he summons bagman like a shikigami bam 10/10 fight

[unique warren]

CV is just kinda better than almost every other cal boss because it isn’t running away simulator

[pale silo]

Yeah this alone turns the fight into an actually great fight tbh imo

[mellow spade]

i'll say this, it's more obvious what you have to do now
it's a lot of weaving through the dark energies instead of just ram-dashing constantly
but it's still really precise and I don't think it's enough of an improvement

[fathom girder]

It certainly makes him better, but whatever you guys do to drag the player into it is still really really unintuitive to deal with and, personally, it makes dodging all the other nonsense way harder than it needs to be

[pale silo]

Turns it from energy phase feeling completely random into an actually fair phase. And succ phase was always "okay"

[pale silo]

The succ only happens in succ phase. Not energy

[hasty tangle]

maybe i should try it for myself

[fathom girder]

Yeah but it still succs
hehe

[rose laurel]

One day, CV will be an actually good encounter

[main estuary]

yeesh
does ks really need to bear a predictive emerald gem

[unique warren]

Like, I think the issue with cal bosses is that the best strategy, with very few exceptions, is to not engage with the boss

[rose laurel]

I say encounter because I will fight to death to make it not a boss

[jagged copper]

all I have to do is pull up Old Malice CV just to show how bad he used to be

[pale silo]

The gem is pretty easy to dodge as long as you have a hook

[fathom girder]

Unless it's with current true melee, which forces me to be up in their face which is AWESOME

[hasty tangle]

is anything major planned before the distortion update?

[pale silo]

Yeah but that's an issue with terraria as a whole tbh

[mellow spade]

i've fought old malice CV and I find current CV harder because he does more damage

[main estuary]

i only have 16 defense

[rose laurel]

I don't think so

[mystic eagle]

Calamity Mod 2.1.5 leak

[pale silo]

"dodge" means "to not get hit"

[unique warren]

Vanilla sure, modded not necessarily, Souls Mod does great at it

[rose laurel]

But I also think realistically we could rework CV before then if we deem necessary

[fathom girder]

Auric DK is here !!!!

[mellow spade]

new funky mode

[jagged copper]

though from a purely dodging perspective, the former is way harder to not get hit by

[pale silo]

Souls does it by making the boss a non threat. Barely matters where the boss is

[mellow spade]

oh 100% yeah

[pale silo]

It just surrounds you for the most part

[pseudo vector]

i mean all people have got to do is stick close to him instead of moving super frantically

[unique warren]

Pffftttt

[mellow spade]

a lot of the reworked bosses do a good job at making you engage with the boss

[unique warren]

[mellow spade]

DoG and BoC are HOUNDING you constantly and the new Cultist fight is very interesting

doze and Big E cooked

[jagged copper]

that's what I like about it now, it's a game of precision rather than frantic movements

[pale silo]

I'm being honest. You just react to what they do instead of where they're going or what you will have to do

[pale silo]

Yeah these two makes you interact with the boss amazingly well

[unique warren]

Dude get out of town

[mellow spade]

i'm not seeing new cultist getting enough love

[unique warren]

My man

[astral vapor]

i havent gotten there yet lol

[fathom girder]

aren't you the gal who says true melee should be able to do damage halfway across the screen

[pale silo]

Yes

[fathom girder]

you both have bad takes smh

[silver shuttle]

I just beat all 3 mech bossess and my only vertical mobility is my boots lmao

I haven’t bothered to get wings yet….

[vapid herald]

Is Ragnarok compatible with the new calamity upd?

[pale silo]

tbf my take of Fargo's was from like 2 maybe 3 years ago. No cal addon with it

[mellow spade]

One last test. Is blazing star viable on boss rush cal clone and scal?

...yes. yes it is

[fathom girder]

how tf LMAO

[pale silo]

Now that's fun

[dull heart]

with new CV or old one?

i mean both are ture

[pale silo]

If it's caught in a wall it deals insane damage with it's stealth strike

[fathom girder]

I think my CV woes can be tied to having a really bad arena for him. I'll try a better arena the next time I fight him

[mellow spade]

and cal clone's arena border counts as a "wall"

[pseudo vector]

that's smth i do want to have be part of future boss design, i want to eliminate rungodding as much as possible

[mellow spade]

which it can go through and bounce off every frame

[pseudo vector]

new ceaseless

[fathom girder]

dear god

[pale silo]

Which tbh is relatively hard to do without forcing fights in their own arena

[unique warren]

More than ten tiles does not equal half the screen, considering the screen is around 70 tiles VERTICALLY, meaning 20 tile range would only be… 30% of the screen? And horizontally it’s 120 tiles so only 1/6, so maybe stop fucking strawmanning me

[pale silo]

Brain does it really well

[pale silo]

Tbh all I want is tmelee to be able to actually hit everything sometimes for an alright portion of damage

[mellow spade]

I encourage everyone to use blazing star on scal while you still can because it's just really funny

[silver shuttle]

Tbf the screen is not 70 tiles lmao

[pale silo]

Not an "always can hit"

[silver shuttle]

Or at least isn’t for me

[pale silo]

Hunters are the big example for that

[fathom girder]

your mind would be blown if you saw normal melee weapons I think

[dull heart]

i mean that was also the case with old one

new one is just more lenient on the movement and easier to understand

[unique warren]

I want true melee to be a class that can hit somewhat consistently without long periods of waiting for higher than average but not insane damage, which I think is what you’re saying too

[fading basalt]

anyone know how to get around the brain not working in infernum mode now?

[silver shuttle]

I haven’t experienced new ceaseless void yet but I will say the old version was my least favorite boss in the mod

[pale silo]

Normal melee can hit everything always (for the most part). From what I understand tmelee (soon to be heroic) is gonna be mainly for bosses when they're "stunned" or are in a close quarters phase

[astral vapor]

heroic was explained earlier thats not what it is

[fathom girder]

or for when you can actually chase em down

[pale silo]

It's mainly boss damage stuff from what I understand of it?

[unique warren]

That’s probably why, but even then I can’t see why you prefer calamity bosses which primary strategy is to never ever ever engage with them ever lol

[granite sapphire]

This damn foxy mod, I was looking for a flare gun to use the firestorm cannon and got jumpscared

[dull heart]

heroic... like... sentenced to be a hero...

[fathom girder]

Heroic... a hero would need a blade... a hero's blade...

[pale silo]

Because I actually engage with them. I make sure to not run god

Because I find it more fun

[unique warren]

See I can’t see how that would be fun for fights like Storm weaver

[pale silo]

Tbh I never ran away from weaver much anyways

[mellow spade]

wanna see something fun? use arc flash ring with scarlet devil and watch a million lightning bolts hit your enemy

[pale silo]

I found it easier to ..well weave in-between

[unique warren]

I kinda genuinely have no clue how I would handle the tornados without going down below them ngl

[mellow spade]

it's visually appealing

[mellow spade]

above, then back down, in like a really stretched sine wave pattern

[pale silo]

It's semi easy, you just have to lure weaver to one side and fast accel past him on the other side of the gap

Having too strong of a ram can make it harder tho

[loud lotus]

as a mage what are the best reforges

[unique warren]

So wait you go above the tornados then go back into the tornados instead of just staying out?

[pale silo]

Tends to be mythical

[loud lotus]

what about accessories

[mellow spade]

you can stay out but this is another way to do it

[fathom girder]

Arcane got buffed a lot, go for that

[silver shuttle]

Accesories is personal preference if thats what you’re asking

[loud lotus]

okay

[mellow spade]

fly up fast with wings, slime saddle fall down, and you can outpace Weaver while attacking it head-on with a piercing weapon

[unique warren]

Hmmm I guess that makes sense but also… why would you

[pale silo]

I tend to do warding, but I'm just yolo between all 3 defencive rn

[loud lotus]

oh okay im just new to mage but thanks

[mellow spade]

easier to hit it

[stable sinew]

how do u get soul of night and light?

[pale silo]

Disliking max hp the most, aiming for half regen half defence

[unique warren]

Hmm I suppose that could be true

[mellow spade]

kill enemies in the underground corruption/crimson and hallow respectively

[pale silo]

Cavern layer on the evil biomes. Kill enemies

[mellow spade]

you can also get souls of night from breaking demon/crimson altars, and souls of light from queen slime

[unique warren]

It still seems counterintuitive but like c’mon emode bosses are so much better than cal ones

[pale silo]

Has to be caverns, the top side of the evil biomes don't work

[mellow spade]

cal's improving

[mellow spade]

good point

[unique warren]

True but I better see ALL of y’all on 2.0 day one

[pale silo]

"better" in some ways, worse in others. I find emode just...not fun

[mellow spade]

fargo's? oh of course, can't wait

[unique warren]

Istg if you say some shit about it being unfair on purpose I’m gonna punch a dog and run into a lake

[pale silo]

It relies wayyy too much on precision movement and overwhelming you

And I just can't do precision movement too well cause of my laptop

[unique warren]

It relies on analyzing a boss and finding a method to dodge each attack

Man I play on Mac don’t give me that

[pale silo]

That's every boss almost ever (assuming no fall/run god)

[mellow spade]

emode is super fair ngl

[fathom girder]

better get into that lake then bucko

[pale silo]

Do you have insane frame drops just because you opened discord once ever?

[mellow spade]

maso is another story but eternity is the most balanced difficulty move i've ever played, it's so good

[unique warren]

Uhhh actually cal is way worse with lag than Fargo’s is for me

[mellow spade]

but again, calamity's catching up

now that Fab's gone and the devs can actually, you know, develop the mod

[pale silo]

No it's not a hardware (resources) issue

[loud lotus]

is it normal for some npcs to just dissapear and then say that they have arrived the next day even tough they didnt die

[solar harbor]

anyone know how to get hotdogs/ steaks easily since the npcs no longer sell them or at least somthing equivalent that is easily obtainable

[stable sinew]

IT NOT WKR

[silver shuttle]

The new vengeful sun staff is insane for single targets

[pale silo]

God knows why, my laptop just...has insane frame drops every once in a while if I've ever:

• Closed the screen once
• Left it on for more than 3 or so hours (depends on how hot it gets)
• Just sometimes feeling to do so.

I have to restart my laptop to prevent the lag spikes every 5 mins or so

[mellow spade]

find a biome where an enemy that drops them spawns and go crazy with the spawn rates

[floral pier]

WHAT IS THAT PRIMORDIAL WYRM RESPRITE IM SO FUCKING SCARED

[pale silo]

Maybe kill enemies while in an evil biome.

[unique warren]

That’s rough, bud

[loud lotus]

is discord on startup?

[pale silo]

Nope

[unique warren]

But yeah I’d do a redo of Souls lol. They have fantastic bosses

[loud lotus]

is hardware accelerant on?

[pale silo]

I've turned as much stuff on startup as I can

[pale silo]

Yup, not a hardware issue really (at least resource wise)

[solar harbor]

ok thanks water candles and battle potions it is

[mellow spade]

don't forget zerg

[pale silo]

It is semi low end resources but my old worse pc could run stuff semi well still

And I bought it first hand so it's not an issue from old owners

Factory rested too it just kinda does it

[loud lotus]

have you restarted your laptop in a while? sometimes pcs just need a fresh restart because they get old

[pale silo]

Yeah I restart it whenever it starts doing it

[mystic eagle]

My school laptop suffers from the same issue as well if it starts running gpu/cpu intensive content

[loud lotus]

what specs do you have

[frosty marten]

Wich OS are you using?

[unique warren]

Wait wait do you play Mac or just a shitty laptop

[pale silo]

8gb ram integrated and semi low end other stuff. It's £350 ish in worth ab 2 years ago. Runs windows

[unique warren]

Aw, darn.

[loud lotus]

but that should still run it fine

[frosty marten]

Are you on windows 11?

[pale silo]

Yeah it's why I'm confused so much ab it

[loud lotus]

i played calamity like 4-5 years ago on an even worse laptop from 2003 and i was on a comfy 60fps

[pale silo]

Yups~

[loud lotus]

upgrade to windows 10

[pale silo]

Yeah same. But it happens with everything tbh. Even if I only have my browser open when it starts doing so

[unique warren]

I think the main reason I may never do another cal run is cause my mac likely cannot handle exo mechs

[pale silo]

Mac is always weird with tmod too

[frosty marten]

Windows 11 just SUCKS ASS full of bloatware spyware an AI process running in the background

[unique warren]

Something something miracle blight

[pale silo]

It came installed with it (and it's a mostly integrated laptop) so shall see if I can downgrade

[loud lotus]

then its a ram problem man, windows already takes a shit load of ram for nothing and on 8gb your holding on by a thread

[unique warren]

I love getting seemingly Mac exclusive bugs and having nobody else to test them with!!!

[loud lotus]

whats wrong with it

[pale silo]

It's just Mac OS differences with maths

It causes a lot of inaccuracies in stuff not built for mac

[unique warren]

Yeah, for some reason Miracle Blight (the Earth debuff) causes NPCs to flicker their sprites on and off 😭

[loud lotus]

i need the goblin tinkerer rn but he just dissapeared idk where hes at

[pale silo]

Ima be getting a new pc at some point soon so I probably won't worry ab it for now. Gonna aim for one that'll last me the next 10 years hopefully (and DW ab ram stuffs, I have other sticks laying around from pass downs from my older brother's)

[pale silo]

He loves doing that, check if he died or not

[loud lotus]

oh damn do you know the specs yet?

[loud lotus]

he hasnt died but i can see him on the npc thingy

[pale silo]

Nah just a rough goal, but gonna aim to invest maybe £2k-3k on it. Shall see

[loud lotus]

i spent something like 750-800 and i can handle any game i throw at it

i do plan on upgrading my cpu and ram in the future tho

[pale silo]

I just wanna go a tad higher cause I want to properly play modded Minecraft (oh noes) and some other more intensive stuff without burning alive

Most mid end ish games I throw at my laptop works really well but Minecraft is...very unoptimised as is....

[crisp rover]

Oh my gosh
Ohhhh my gosh
||Did I install another mod by accident or did Calamity make the greatest Brain revamp I've ever seen||

[loud lotus]

im playing very heavily modded minecraft with heavy shaders at around 100 fps, my build is a really good price to performance so this is insane to see for the price

[pale silo]

Brain is amazing yes

[lean spruce]

Bro is still living in the stone age

[loud lotus]

that is true

[crisp rover]

I didn't have a chance to hop on yesterday 😭

[pale silo]

Price is sadly going up so ima hope the ai bubble bursts soon so ram will shoot downwards in price..but shall have to see! Worst case I just save more up

[unique warren]

Living under a rock 😭 😭 😭

[loud lotus]

ah that will all be over before the end on this year, thats when im gonna upgrade

[pale silo]

Id imagine the "most intensive" game that I play semi normally that runs well rn is probably vintage story rn. In which it's ab 50-60 FPS assuming no frame drops so I'll be fine for a while

[pale silo]

Let's hope!

[loud lotus]

60fps is fine tbh its not that bad

[pale silo]

Idk why I swapped hardest with most intensive...

[loud lotus]

i understood it anyway

[pale silo]

Brain not braining

[solar harbor]

do Pigronatas drop bacon or no?

[pale silo]

1.4.5 no, in cal yes

[amber furnace]

why did you think it was brainstorm

[solar harbor]

do they in this latest update

[pale silo]

Afaia brainstorm yes..but 1.4.5 no

If you want easy food in calamity: a happy goblin sells spaghetti

[loud lotus]

i have every other npc other than the goblin tinkerer wow

[solar harbor]

o sweet

[pale silo]

If you're in vanilla..it's fishing.

[solar harbor]

im in calamity

[unique warren]

Or like the four other options but yeah

[pale silo]

Yeah but they're minor food basically

Fishing in ocean I think is best for medium now?

[unique warren]

Bacon was t3 tho?

[pale silo]

Pumpkin is small, same for bass

Bacon isn't from pigron things anymore

So it's extremely annoying to grind

[unique warren]

Yea so what t3 do you do instead

[pale silo]

Ig a corruption farm works pre hm

For burgers at a 1% or so drop rate

[unique warren]

I’d say post-plant dungeon is best later on

[solar harbor]

ok im trying to beat DOG now so i need somthing thatll buff me pretty good

[pale silo]

Yeah probably

[open garden]

is there an npc that sells pizza late-ish game or is that a seperate mod i have

[unique warren]

14% drop from paladins and nearly 5% from skeleton rangers is kinda good

[pale silo]

Oh that's pretty good

[twin mural]

My old PC barely handled Infernum at all but it directly didn't let me open Minecraft 1.20, instead a popup would show up saying I must update my BIOS

[pale silo]

Calamity go brrr (spaghetti is major)

[pale silo]

I can "run" vanilla MC at very low settings at 30 FPS or so. Infernum I can run at a coollll 60% slowdown with frame skip subtle

For the visual intensive bosses

[mystic eagle]

There is a lot of Spaghetti code, yes.

[unique warren]

Why frame skip subtle? On has always been better for me

[pale silo]

(prov being the biggest offender)

[pale silo]

Subtle makes it "feel" like i still need to react. On makes me unable to see anything happening when a lag spike happens

[twin mural]

In my case I had to set everything low, disabled background, trippy lights and reduced window resolution

[pale silo]

What I aim to do is pause when a lag spike happens (which subtle makes it so I don't die)

[twin mural]

And it would go 20fps at best

[unique warren]

Subtle makes it feel like shit personally (like, really really bad, noticeably awful) so it must just be different for us

[pale silo]

It happens when you're used to better fps

But I've always lived with low FPS for most of my life so idm

[unique warren]

No I mean it just makes the game run actually slow

[open garden]

my pc is complete garbage it can barely handle base exo mechs

[pale silo]

(think an average of 20-30 on most games)

[solar harbor]

is this still the case in the latest update

[heavy raft]

Is revengeance still largely easier than infernum still

[pale silo]

Yeah I think?

[dull heart]

ooops

[twin mural]

Ever since I started played in the new laptop I don't touch my old PC at all

[pale silo]

Wait how is it that strong???

[unique warren]

It’s been a while since I’ve even tried subtle but last I did it basically slowed the game down 😭

[dull heart]

i may have overbuffed it on accident

[solar harbor]

ok thanks

[unique warren]

Spider staff was already fine wasn’t it

Just kind of a case where there was better + u need walls

[pale silo]

Some might call that an oopsies

[open garden]

spider staff upgraded to funnel web spiders

[main estuary]

gotta love the sunken sea ❤️

[pale silo]

Background go brrrr

[dull heart]

no it was F tier

[main estuary]

theres also no bgm

[proven locust]

wait so universal collapse doesnt play in the dog fight anymore?? why

[dull heart]

even with walls

[unique warren]

I’ll assume it was some odd cal thing then

[hasty tangle]

what makes you say this

[dull heart]

no it's just bad

in general

[proven locust]

it didnt play for me in death

[unique warren]

It’s actually fine enough in vanilla but go off

[mellow spade]

the real brainstorms were the friends we made along the way

[still cobalt]

Spider staff has always been bad and only used to get a better summon instantly

[open garden]

most things are fine enough in vanilla to be fair

[mellow spade]

good update, 9.5/10 (wanted to give 10/10 but ceaseless void ate the other 0.5)
time to play it all over again with the new melee

[astral vapor]

iirc in vanilla the type of immunity frames it had meant only 3 spiders was effective and any more literally couldn't hit or something

[proven locust]

am i wrong?

[unique warren]

Ngl this applies to like half of vanilla summons and idek if cal fixes this

[dull heart]

10/10 because spider staff is SS tier

[dull heart]

it does for spider staff now

[hasty tangle]

sorry, i just wanted to make sure you didnt get that misconception from one of my vids where i didnt use sotu/uc for the dog fight

[mellow spade]

negated, i have arachnophobia and play with spider caves disabled

[proven locust]

sorry lol

[mellow spade]

but I'll take the extra 0.5 from blazing star instead

so 10/10 all told

you and Big E fucking cooked on the new bosses

[still cobalt]

Isnt blazing star scal viable

[mellow spade]

yes

[unique warren]

Wait so how did this happen exactly…?

[mellow spade]

i've gotten about 5-minute kill times with it

[grand mirage]

Astral infection hit both my snow and desert village 🙃

[mellow spade]

how did the astral hit both desert and snow

[dull heart]

2 extra updates, 45 local iframes

[grave geyser]

doze gave it 2 extra updates and local iframes

[mellow spade]

are you on drunk seed?

[grand mirage]

They were relatively close

[grave geyser]

wiki seems to think its 15

[dull heart]

it's 15 effective iframes

3 updates per tick means 45/3 = 15 effective

[unique warren]

That sure will do it, how’d that get through exactly…? 🤔

[dull heart]

Each spider minion has an internal hit cooldown of 0.33 seconds, meaning it can hit an enemy up to 3 times per second.[1]
oops

i upped each spider's hitrate on accident

[open garden]

are the reworked weapons still in the process of being tested and tiered?

[dull heart]

on top of local

[halcyon seal]

doze. doze what did you do

[mellow spade]

doze how many broken weapons did you make in 2.1

[halcyon seal]

DOZE WHAT DID YOU DO

[mystic eagle]

We're retesting the entire game

[fierce nebula]

when is 2.11

[open garden]

oh damn lol

[fierce nebula]

calamity will crumble unless 2.1.1 doesn't come soon!!!

[unique warren]

Doze and balancing are like mortal enemies

[mellow spade]

did you make these super broken just so we could have fun for a little bit

[viscid rain]

is death mode still the hardest non infurnum

[fierce nebula]

malice mode 🧠

[mellow spade]

"you can have a little scal viability. as a treat." - doze

[open garden]

legendary mode unlocks malice mode

[viscid rain]

of the opnes i still can choose

[urban cloak]

technically malice now, just know it doesn't have any unique changes and is purely legendary stats + death mode ai

[loud lotus]

i just beat moonlord chat what do i make now as a mage

[unique warren]

Also I need to come back to this, what the fuck is up with the true melee naming in this update

[mystic eagle]

He Buffed Hellborn and Corinth after they got nerfed in dev. Both are still SS Tier

[fierce nebula]

bruh

[dull heart]

20 iframes with up to 3 spiders able to hit at the same time -> 15 effective local iframes

[viscid rain]

oh malice mode is back nice

[proven locust]

Class setups

[dull heart]

i did not what

[loud lotus]

what even is that

[proven locust]

one sec

[dull heart]

fluffy buffed Hellborn

[unique warren]

Holy collider not true melee? Huh????

[mystic eagle]

Ah

[proven locust]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Class_setups/Post-Moon_Lord

[main estuary]

bug

[dull heart]

i was told corinth was fine when i asked

[still bluff]

I buffed hellborn yea
It was not enough of a buff to make it SS tho
Just saying

[dull heart]

yeh

[unique warren]

Lo

[proven locust]

dont take it as the word of god tho its not fully updated

[mystic eagle]

Well new DoG as a whole certainly allows Corinth to do some fun stuff

[proven locust]

they made dog mid now :((

[fierce nebula]

yeah the whole wiki is very wrong right now

[silver shuttle]

New cal clone is neat

[unique warren]

What

[mystic eagle]

Chuckles

[proven locust]

universal collapse doesnt play arguably THE BEST dm dokuro track

[silver shuttle]

I will however miss old cal clone

[fierce nebula]

it does

have you fought it

[proven locust]

yes it doesnt

[fierce nebula]

it plays the song

[loud lotus]

ts confusing asf

[mystic eagle]

Infernum issue

[proven locust]

is it? do i uninstall

[fierce nebula]

infernum breaks univeral collapse

[unique warren]

Yeah maybe don’t play Infernum 😭

[urban cloak]

can confirm we did not intentionally remove universe collapse

[open garden]

update dropped like 2 days ago the wiki hasn’t caught up with all the changes it made

[urban cloak]

it is a mod conflict issue

[proven locust]

i was on death bro

[loud lotus]

oh okay

[fierce nebula]

in general don't play with infernum unless you want to play the difficulty

[unique warren]

Yeah maybe don’t play Infernum at all regardless anyways 😭

[proven locust]

profaned garden

[open garden]

truth nuke!!!!!!!!!!!

[fierce nebula]

that's even worse

[proven locust]

infernum is phenomenal?? what is this guy on abt

[fierce nebula]

don't fucking play infernum unless you're playing the difficulty

[proven locust]

woah he CURSED

[fierce nebula]

it breaks things otherwise

[jagged copper]

Old Duke dead, new visuals and gameplay improvements makes this fight PEAK

[open garden]

this IDFernum slander is so good i could die!!!

[fierce nebula]

insane comparison

[unique warren]

Ranges from making peak to making pure utter slop

Shit is like a metronome

[golden patrol]

where can i get some help with a bug

not #1052323733961977947 since i already did that days ago and never got a responce

[golden patrol]

this bug has made the game completely unplayable and im really annoyed by this since i have no idea when a bug patch will come out and allow me to play again

[frosty marten]

What happened?

[golden patrol]

all i know is when i click Single Player in the main menu, the game crashes

[frosty marten]

LMAAAOOOO

[golden patrol]

cant even get to my characters

[frosty marten]

That's weird, have you seen the logs?

[unique warren]

Mods?

[golden patrol]

yeah

[golden patrol]

well duh, this is the mod server

problem is the mod is just calamity

[frosty marten]

Check files integrity

[main estuary]

just calamity? no other mods?

[astral vapor]

she was asking for your modlist lol

[golden patrol]

oh

[dull heart]

turn of calamity, open character in a new world, and remove all unloaded items from vanity/dye slots and put in inventory

please also tell me what items you removed, we haven't been able to source this bug yet

[golden patrol]

alr

[fathom girder]

Forbidden oathblade's kill mode on adrenaline is satisfying

[proven locust]

What? i can only name like 3 Mid bosses not even bad

[dull heart]

hey look

teraraira reference

[proven locust]

better then basecal thats for sure

[dull heart]

basecal new cultist is peak tbh

[proven locust]

i havent seen it so no comment

[dull heart]

actually i've seen only one person comment on new cultist

[main estuary]

doesn't he fire more projectiles?

[proven locust]

i didnt even know it got reworked

[main estuary]

i think i saw a clip in this server

[dull heart]

his attacks have a bunch of changes

[grave geyser]

I fought it during kalei testing
its like
eh
I dont hate it but I dont particularly like it either

[fathom girder]

Cultist is just. idk he's there
He'll always be ignored even if he's good lul

[modest grove]

I feel like death mode isn’t as hard as before the update

[dull heart]

notably each attack actually has a reason to exist

[knotty violet]

is xyks blessing new? its really cool lookin

[fathom girder]

He felt cohesive when I fought him, if that says anything

[main estuary]

have there been any ai changes to ds in brainstorm?

[dull heart]

death mode is much harder than before the update, unless you mean old master death

[urban cloak]

the greatest ranger weapon to ever do it

[golden patrol]

fun

[modest grove]

Yeah old master death mode

[dull heart]

normal accessories are probably fine - we believe its a dye / vanity item issue

we have been unable to find which one

[main estuary]

aw man they patched the sg cheese

[frosty marten]

Oh yea that makes sense since it crashes from showing the dye in the character preview

[main estuary]

born to cheat the game (through it's own flaws)
forced to play it fairly 😔

[magic shadow]

I honestly do think lunatic cultist is really well made, but i'm not a particularly big fan of the purple shadowflame balls I think they are? The attack with the orbs that gains 1 extra orb every one of the "guessing" circles he does. Stage 4 and 6 I have no clue on how to dodge, it feels awkward and a bit unfair at times unless i'm not understanding well

[fierce nebula]

teraraira

[grave geyser]

ice mist felt really not impactful at all, even with chilled the dooms are not hard to dodge
stardust felt like I knew how it wanted you to dodge it but it felt weird anyway
flares you just barely move
the fight as a whole feels almost kinda boring
it never really gets any harder it just
keeps going

[fathom girder]

How are we in brainstorm and flarefrost blade is still a sword that has no unique animation and fires a single homing dust projectile

[gray carbon]

did the twins get buffed

[hallow mason]

hey does anyone know how to disable the armor effects from xyk's blessing, so that I only get the custom wings and dash?

[fathom girder]

this thing is still hilariously such a nothing sword

[grave geyser]

its peak

[lethal kraken]

whew did mechdusa for the first time nice

[dull heart]

cant

[grave geyser]

the world needs a good nothing sword or 5

[crimson wraith]

Was the plantera arena removed in the update?

[magic shadow]

Maybe it wasn't priority for the update. I would love to see it reworked a bit tho.

[urban cloak]

too many weapons in this mod we're bound to overlook some of em 🥀

[fierce nebula]

I wish the wings could be separate

[hallow mason]

same

[lethal kraken]

got the achievement earlier because during one attempt prime and twins despawned and it was just me killing the destroyer

[fathom girder]

It's still like a 1.2 weapon man it's so funny

[fierce nebula]

not to say the armor looks bad but I just want to use them on other fits

[hallow mason]

the armor looks cool either way

[golden patrol]

it worked

so can i use vanity after this or am i gonna be naked forever

[grave geyser]

dont diss scourge of the corruptor like that

[magic shadow]

forever stripped of all future clothing

[lethal kraken]

ok time to go into god mode and kill 2 more times to get the treasure bags fully researched

[urban cloak]

we'll do something with all the ice weapons when we decide to update permafrost and what not cause there's too many of em specifically

[frosty marten]

Your drip card has been revoked until further notice

[fathom girder]

That's fair

[main estuary]

ice barrage will finally be worth using 🙏

[torpid bane]

Has anyone made a list of reworked weapons sorted by class yet?

[fierce nebula]

full echo dye fit 🔥

[urban cloak]

ice barrage is a donor weapon im not sure if we could do anything with that rn im gonna be real

[main estuary]

oh (it's genuinely not worth crafting anyways)

[serene brook]

why is daytime empress not dropping terraprisma in infernum

[urban cloak]

if someone deems it worthy of receiving one it'll get a buff in some random update ig

[frosty marten]

I think there's an official image somewhere around here with the new stuff for each class and the time you can get it

[main estuary]

also are there any bosses i should watch out for on death

[magic shadow]

sprime

[main estuary]

i assume this is because exdeath prime was also a problem

[magic shadow]

i hatew him with my guts sprime

[urban cloak]

new dog can fuck you up pretty easily if you aren't careful so him ig

[buoyant pulsar]

@dull heart what if ion blaster and apoctosis array had unique interactions with chaos stone just saying

[hollow root]

ok is the aquatic heart just broken?

[meager hawk]

WE are ready for the next update

[hollow root]

literally can't swim

and i move slow as shit in water, and can't breathe

[zealous saddle]

which attunement of biome blade got reworked?i saw the sword in reworked weapon list

[crimson wraith]

I think they removed the astral attunement?

[frosty marten]

Jungle got removed

[lethal kraken]

actually while i still have godmode on i will also just have 10x spawn rate and just mow down stuff and try to get the rod of discord and stuff too

[sinful dagger]

Did the update make the game generally easier or am I just better

I can't tell

[zealous saddle]

how is that a rework

[frosty marten]

The nerfed some bosses damage and damage resist

[crimson wraith]

It does seem easy but the last time I played calamity was 3 years ago so not sure

[lethal kraken]

if talking about clamity update then yea stuff got nerfed im aware of yea

[crimson wraith]

Brain of Cthulhu was especially easy imo he deals literally no damage

Very fun though

[frosty marten]

I mean, the jungle attunement is now the clarity i think

[vestal heron]

It’s there if you go to the underground jungle I think

[dull heart]

what vanities did you remove

[unique warren]

Do they still update calval beyond updating to new cal versions

[golden patrol]

The unloaded mod ones

Also I just learned how much calamity nerfed

HOW COULD THEY

[sinful dagger]

What difficulty

[fathom girder]

they also buffed like, everything else

[zealous saddle]

the attunement is still there, what?

[crimson wraith]

Death

[frosty marten]

No like, the actual name of the items you had in vanity

[distant raft]

oh yeah did zenith get changed at all
i ask because its exos time got over doubled

like the wiki doesnt say anything

[frosty marten]

I tried yesterday and it wouldn't atune

[dull heart]

yeah but what were they

we can't fix the bug without knowing what caused them

[fathom girder]

incoming "idk"

[crimson wraith]

The only boss I had trouble with was plantera but that's because I fought her in the hive instead of her arena cuz I couldn't find it for the life of me

[zealous saddle]

it still works, maybe you did it wrong

[frosty marten]

I be tripping

[zealous saddle]

i still dont know what aspect of biome blade got reworked

[unique warren]

😬

[golden patrol]

Victide leggings, abyss gear, signus black belt, uhhh i forgot, draedon's breasts I think

[proven locust]

what?

[frosty marten]

Is it the whip one?

[zealous saddle]

yes its still there

[dull heart]

... draedon's... breasts??\

[unique warren]

[frosty marten]

Well damn i do be trippin

[fathom girder]

It's a new implant of his

[golden patrol]

Didn't calamity 2.1 add genderswapped npc vanities or no

[manic trout]

Question for you all. Should I make a new world for this update? I just started my first play though of this mod and was just about to fight skeletron. Tmod loader auto updated to 2.1. Will I miss out on much by continuing to play on my current world? Thanks!

[buoyant pulsar]

draedon performs hrt

[golden patrol]

Yeah I could swore it added gender swapped npc's, similar to the shimmer if you used a genderswap potion on an npc then it does just that

You are not gonna BELIEVE the demolitionist

[crimson wraith]

You aren't super far into the run anyway so you should start a new world

[fathom girder]

brainstorm improves the draedon labs

[golden patrol]

Did it add draedon tits

[proven locust]

green needle

[fathom girder]

those aren't part of the lab

[magic shadow]

one day they will

[buoyant pulsar]

are there plans to make mana a more interesting resource in calamity

[fathom girder]

brainstorm did that with chaos stone

[proven locust]

i dont think so

[dusk bronze]

yes actually

[wispy blade]

can u not

[dusk bronze]

according to the future doc

[proven locust]

God i love these guys

MAGE WILL FOREVER BE THE BEST CLASS

[zealous saddle]

is the wiki updated

[fathom girder]

UNLESS IT ISN'T

[buoyant pulsar]

brainstorm is just terraria if it was good

[proven locust]

green needle*

[main estuary]

do you ever just die to the green needle armada 21 times while afk

[gloomy grove]

bro what

[golden patrol]

Add draedons breasts vanity that gives you roboboobs pls

[buoyant pulsar]

so many good design choices in calamity that relogic isnt in a position to make

[fathom girder]

Except for the summoner rebalance, which relogic beat the cal devs to lol

[gloomy grove]

can we put this guy in the timeout corner ❤️

[lean spruce]

1.4.5 made summoner overpowered

[fathom girder]

yes, I'm talking about the whip rebalance that removed whip stacking

[main estuary]

rant about ts in your google keep

anywhere but a server with many watching

[gloomy grove]

im pretty sure the team waited for it before they want to tinker around with summoner balancing again

[noble bay]

why did the onyx drill get nerfed so much

[fathom girder]

Doze's plans for fixing whips specifically ended up being done by relogic in 1.4.5

[loud lotus]

is there any cheat sheet mod that works for this version

[fathom girder]

anyone else wanna ask me a question with the same answer or

[golden patrol]

Stupid bitch dev said nah, let em weep

[lean spruce]

Im waiting for the dateable SCal expansion 🙏

[gloomy grove]

dragonlens and cheatsheet

[loud lotus]

cheatsheet didnt work for me lemme try dragonlens

[golden patrol]

Tdate cal addon 🙏

[golden patrol]

The more the devs see it the more likely it will get added

Fight for the right to oogle!

[frosty marten]

Infernum so ass it deleted all my calamity boss progress from fighting bereft vassal

[vast ferry]

i just realized something

[dusk bronze]

that's boss checklist's doing

[vast ferry]

this new dev approach MIGHT be based off of stuff like how addons kinda did (with the full rework to a vanilla boss in EVERY mode)

because of brain of cthulhu's full rework AND HAVING SIMILAR VFX on everything related to it

VERY similar vfx

[frosty marten]

No, like, the alchemistNPC that sells bosses materials also isn't selling anything

[dusk bronze]

yeah
boss checklist bugged out

it can just do that

[frosty marten]

Good thing i just beat scal so i can dump this save and play some malice

[spark belfry]

Yeah it's done it to me lately

Is what it is

[hot wadi]

Speaking of Malice, I saw that the DoG fight on that difficulty is basically the Infernum fight

[manic trout]

ty leaning that way

[vast ferry]

hey guys who wants to see some cursed ass stuff from fandom wiki

[manic trout]

second opinions before i rip a new world? Still in pre hardmode before updating

[vast ferry]

too late deerlamitas

[loud lotus]

can i not wear these if i have wings?

[hot wadi]

New structures have been added in the Brainstorm Update alongside a lot of weapon and accessory reworks, check them out now!

[vast ferry]

holy shit this is the most evil ass thing i've SEEN

[dull heart]

those should work with wings

[vast ferry]

EVERYTHING JUST GOT MADE PURPLE

[fathom girder]

if you shift right-click the item, they function as boots only, which you can wear wings with

[tropic jolt]

🤔

[dull heart]

those are the boot-only version

[loud lotus]

it wont let me equip them for some reason

[dull heart]

whats your equipment rn

[barren nacelle]

I did this one

[vast ferry]

also @dull heart when will we get Kulu Yharon Ku as a superboss

[barren nacelle]

That was me

[hard copper]

Lmao, I think they should all be upside down as well like shatcom

[dull heart]

odd..

try toggling the wings on and back off

[vast ferry]

WAIT @barren nacelle DO THAT

[loud lotus]

still doesnt work

[dull heart]

huhh

[barren nacelle]

I’m past my prime

[vast ferry]

...i think i'm going to kill someone

[dull heart]

does it work with Starboard off?

[fathom girder]

could be a mod issue? It works on pure calamity

[frosty marten]

Do you have an extra wing slot?

[dull heart]

it might be broken by Wing Slot

if Wing Slot forces wings into wing slot only

[fathom girder]

it does

[barren nacelle]

Wing slot forces wings to wing slot only yeah

[vast ferry]

...DID THEY ADD A FUCKING ELEMENTAL DAMAGE SYSTEM

[dull heart]

yeah then that's wing slot's fault

[fathom girder]

It's been in the mod for awhile, but it got expanded in brainstorm

[barren nacelle]

Would that be a compat thing on their side?

[vast ferry]

OH MY GOD WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY MADE THIS.

[loud lotus]

okay lemme try disabling the mod

[frosty marten]

Wing slot worked for me tho, i was using seraphs and wings of rebirth like that

[barren nacelle]

They’re talking about the fandom wiki one… shudder

[fathom girder]

oh no

[dull heart]

i think there might be multiple wing slot mods / configs? not sure

wing slot's my only thought

[hot wadi]

Never trust fandom wiki

[vast ferry]

i'm looking at it because i wanna laugh

[silver shuttle]

I’ve officially beaten plantera

Should I craft wings yet 😭

I keep taking fall damage in boss fights

[vast ferry]

that's

that's kind of a cool idea ngl

[hot wadi]

You should've made your first wings POST EVIL 2

[silver shuttle]

This world is cruel

[hot wadi]

Now go get yourself bat/mothron wings from the Solar Eclipse enemies

[frosty marten]

Aeralite wings my beloved

[silver shuttle]

I should also probably switch from revengence to death considering how smooth sailing this has been so far even with minimal prep…..

[steep pagoda]

IS THIS REAL

[hot wadi]

Nah, keep it at Rev

[loud lotus]

ah yes it worked thank you

[tropic jolt]

og

[vast ferry]

OH GOD I FORGOT IT EXISTED

[arctic cliff]

ironically good designs

[fathom girder]

calamitih-fandom-talk

[loud lotus]

yeah

[silver shuttle]

Plantera was first try with terraspark boots (which I kept forgetting to upgrade) as my only movement acessory

[loud lotus]

yeah

[vast ferry]

the fandom wiki is half good ideas and half dogshit

[tropic jolt]

scule

[hot wadi]

Show #help-advice-read-pins your accessories

[vast ferry]

THIS IS A SICK ASS DESIGN.

[silver shuttle]

Why not post them here?

[hot wadi]

It more suited there

[hollow root]

What changed with the Aquatic Heart? I'm post-Plantera and it just does... nothing

[silver shuttle]

I also forgot to get the evasion scarf

[arctic cliff]

wait why is gelpick have 90% pickaxe power

this doesnt make sense why the fuck would i make it now

[loud lotus]

i dont think anyone ever made it

[silver shuttle]

I’m not really asking for advice, I’ve been doing very well in fact

The jungle also ate my hallow which is fun

[vast ferry]

we have amazing ideas like The Scrapyard Ensemble, Esserwyrm, and Pythogen

AND THEN KULU YHARON KU

[arctic cliff]

i have literally made it almost every playthrough

[hot wadi]

Replace Shield of Cthulhu with Ornate shield and Summoner Emblem with Mothron Wings

[loud lotus]

oh fr?

[fathom girder]

looks like eidolon wyrm if it was released at the same time DoG was getting resprited years ago

[arctic cliff]

its marginally better than molten pickaxe, its faster iirc

[loud lotus]

i just go from molten then cobalt

[silver shuttle]

Nah we go wingless untill the game becomes unplayable lmao

[fathom girder]

Y'know about the gravity orb rework that doze did, apple?

[frosty marten]

It is the fastest pick from pre-hardmode

[vast ferry]

i mean

this thing is pretty cool though

[hollow root]

Has anyone else been having this issue? I have the default movement speed underwater and can't breathe or swim, even with Aquatic Heart

[fathom girder]

Gravity ball lets you skip wings for even LONGER

[silver shuttle]

I’m comited now

[hot wadi]

You'd realistically last wingless until Post-Golem

[fathom girder]

nahhhhh you can go wingless for the entire mod now

because of gravity ball existing post ML

[dull heart]

gravity glooobe

[hot wadi]

Take flight because those guys are going to go even faster than ever

[dull heart]

soon you won't even need globe for that

[fathom girder]

fr??

[dull heart]

2.1.1 buffs Stratus Sphere to restore wing/rocket/jumps when you run out at the cost of starbursts

while in aura

[frosty marten]

Holy

[fathom girder]

That's neat

[silver shuttle]

Unironically starting to think wings are overated

[fathom girder]

They are

[silver shuttle]

Or the bosses are just undertuned

One or the other

[frosty marten]

I mean, the thing i value the most is the fall damage negation

[hollow root]

Can literally anybody explain why the Aquatic Heart isn't working? I've beaten Skeleton. Hell, I just beat Anahita and Leviathan. How am I supposed to do tier-2 abyss when the best piece of underwater exploration gear just doesn't work?

[silver shuttle]

Taking falling damage is the worst part yeah

[silver shuttle]

It happens constantly and kills my adrenaline

[hot wadi]

Maybe go to #1052323733961977947 and see if you can get help there

[frosty marten]

Imagine you just had it in vanity all this time

[hot wadi]

This is one of the main benefits of wings

[hollow root]

would be really funny. Alas

i found another mention of the same problem

but of course, 2 days later and nobody has provided a way to fix it

2.5 days, actually

[fathom girder]

@dull heart Does the amalgam debuff get boosted by all forms of DoT boosters like hellfire tread and whatnot

[dull heart]

amalgam applies 5 debuffs

one of each type

[fathom girder]

I seee alright

[dull heart]

Daybroken, Plague, Vermillion Flux, Crush Depth, and Nightwither

and then boosts all 5 types dmg by +400%i htink

[fathom girder]

I'm just messing around to see if I can make a debuff/accessory only setup that uses eye of magnus as the main weapon lul

It's a 300% increase but yea it does buff them all

[dull heart]

you'll need to apply Sulphur Poison or Voidfrost from a weapon

no other debuff will come close to those

[fathom girder]

Oh I see

[dull heart]

Voidfrost is 200 dps base

400 counting Yhron cold weak

400 *4 means 1600 dps

[noble bay]

is this a new bug?

[dull heart]

what on earth

did u wear invisible dye

[silk terrace]

I love how 'shreddy' the warbanner is now. It went from a meager boost for true melee to a powerhouse that also gives a boost.

[noble bay]

its from the new arsenal soldier vanity thing

[fathom girder]

So realistically I just toss Sirius on for voidfrost application, as sirius will generate starbursts on its own and use them on its own

[arctic cliff]

yeah its weird

[dull heart]

yeah, it won't have 100% uptime without other genration sources but it'll help

actually it won't even have much uptime at all

[fathom girder]

guh

[dull heart]

sirius generates 1 starburst a second

i think

[fathom girder]

I could also halley's inferno

[dull heart]

gladius would be the best starburst to voidfrost ratio i think

lemme look

[fathom girder]

Gladius can do it for free, with the caveat being I have to be really up close so the throw lands

[dull heart]

gladius throw costs starbursts to use

but it's 10 starbursts for 10 seconds

halley's is 1 starburst for 1.25 seconds

[fathom girder]

really makes me realize how much I would need the other weapons to really get everything flowing huh

[dull heart]

wait

hypothermia still does voidfrost??

oops

[fathom girder]

Oh what about crescent moon? Free generation and it's at a safe distance

[dull heart]

3 seconds per constellation

gladius + sirius would be the best option

[fathom girder]

Gotchu

[dull heart]

once every 10 seconds you'll have generated 10 starbursts which is perfect

[lethal kraken]

feels like chaos elementals just straight up do not spawn in the zenith seed oof

[dull heart]

use the left click to pull it out usually

the jump on yharon would ig be worth for iframes but it costs 2x starbursts

[fathom girder]

Also, I didn't realize that starbursts don't max at 20, making sirius purely generation util for gladius

[dull heart]

yeah they max at 100

[fathom girder]

Also part of me wanted to do something with IV drip on the rocks too but, that might be a separate build instead

[silver shuttle]

The new vengeful sun staff is way too good

It’s lasted all the way to post Golem

[grave zephyr]

Wow I read the new DoG lines on the wiki and he's a real prick now

[earnest jewel]

Who knew?

[silver shuttle]

The devourer of gods of all people damn

Its always the people you least expect

[earnest jewel]

You think you know a guy...

[paper linden]

Does novae slag and celestial remains not drop hardmode ores now? Cause i killed a mech and put about 1000 in an extractinaor and didn't get shit, do i actually have to be in hm or something

[fading lagoon]

new shield of chuthulu changes lets you play celeste in calamity

[dull heart]

YAY SOMEONE UING THEM

i'm so happy to see someone enjoying SoC buffs

[silver shuttle]

I’ve been using it up untill Golem

The shield I mean

[fathom girder]

oh so that was intentional

I used it against queen slime to keep it away from me, it's neat tech

[dull heart]

nd then post golem you can upgrade it

:)

[rose arrow]

i kinda wish the commanders cap didnt make you bald

[silver shuttle]

It was great for the destroyer

[dull heart]

I'm glad the buffs did what I hoped

[blissful axle]

Help I've got all the best ranger stuff before wall of flesh but all my friends do more damage than me 🙁

[rose arrow]

it looks really cool

[silver shuttle]

You can just charge into his head and negate most of the damage

[dull heart]

Holding away when bouncing with SoC is the meta even before this patch

but nobody knew that

so i added a mechanic to reinforce that :)

[silver shuttle]

I knew…..

[dull heart]

now there's cool stuff bc of it

[fathom girder]

Ooh, what'd you add

[silver shuttle]

Do I get a medal

[dull heart]

Kickback increased depending on direction held

[acoustic palm]

What class are they playing!

[dull heart]

towards enemy is 1x
no dir is 1.25x
away from enemy is 1.5x

[fathom girder]

Oh my

[dull heart]

hence why they zoooming here

that plus the iframe buffs

[granite sapphire]

What buff

[blissful axle]

All but ranged

[granite sapphire]

I haven't used shield of cthulhu since like forever cause the dash isn't worth it when you have Magiluminescence or shadow armor

[dull heart]

i jsut listed them right before this

Kickback increased depending on direction held
towards enemy is 1x
no dir is 1.25x
away from enemy is 1.5x

4 -> 6 iframes too

[fathom girder]

Did I cook for an accessory only dps setup

[acoustic palm]

Well I mean it’s usually like it pre hard mode

[granite sapphire]

Neat

[dull heart]

i feel like something missing

[sinful dagger]

Ay Deerclops attacks are bugged

[granite sapphire]

Also why is the parrotfish just a better gatligator with less range

[fathom girder]

Right??? I swear there's something else I need

[blissful axle]

So its weaker prehard mode? I really feel like I shouldn't be doing half as much as everyone thi

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

[fathom girder]

hey uh, use this with chalice btw

[acoustic palm]

Like for example me and my 2 other friends I was doing ranger and they did mage and melee they were doing more than me in pre hard mode but later on I was the one doing the most

[dull heart]

actually how does this even work with chalice idk

[fathom girder]

I'll test it later

[dull heart]

does the bleed it removes all remove at once

hmm

[blissful axle]

O

[fathom girder]

OH I forgot a ram

[boreal edge]

I programmed Bloom Stone to yeah

[dull heart]

peak

[fathom girder]

clever lul

There isn't really any armor that would benefit from IV drip rock would it? Auric armor ig?

[hot wadi]

I have no idea how they will interact but my god it looks good on paper

[grizzled orbit]

I'm trying to use Affliction but it's not buffing my friend. Was there another change to Affliction beyond the defense nerf?

[dull heart]

auric summon

[dull heart]

no... it should be working

[grizzled orbit]

oh

[dull heart]

they don't have the Affliction buff in their buff list?

[fathom girder]

Auric summon also makes sirius better, so yeah that checks out

[grizzled orbit]

no effect at all, we're trying a server reset now

[dull heart]

hmm odd

if it persists make a bug report with logs

[grizzled orbit]

got it c:

[granite sapphire]

totally hitting the enemy

[grizzled orbit]

ok after some trial and error we found out why Affliction wasn't working

it seems that the last slot (unlocked via Celestial Onion for us) isn't recognized for the TEAM buff specifically (bearer gets the buffs still)

[regal vessel]

What does celestial onion do

[grizzled orbit]

going to make a report once we farm more polt

[grizzled orbit]

+1 accessory slot after killing Moon Lord

[regal vessel]

Does it apply in master death?

[frosty marten]

Yeah

[granite sapphire]

No

[grizzled orbit]

If you play with friends, it matters for Affliction but otherwise "no"

Affliction is a huge buff if you have friends

[granite sapphire]

Celestial Onion only works in revengeance/expert

It does nothing in master death

[grizzled orbit]

ah ok wasn't aware of that

[regal vessel]

Sonnnnn

[frosty marten]

Oh right because master gives you the extra slot from the beginning

[regal vessel]

Crine right now even though it lowkey makes sense

[grizzled orbit]

yeah I need to make a report for all this later

but friends are waiting on me so it'll be processed later

[granite sapphire]

Though the difference from celestial Onion in master death is less significant since master death isn't fabslop anymore and is actually bearable

(oh my stars fabsol being erased from the calamity community was the grace of heaven)

[regal vessel]

Why do people hate fabsol

Ive only been in the calamity community since like 2024

[granite sapphire]

kid toucher, transphobic, and other thingsd

[regal vessel]

Kid toucher?

[frosty marten]

He's an Epstein Diddy blud

[regal vessel]

Where can I see this at

[granite sapphire]

just search "fabsol calamity mod stepping down"

On google

[frosty marten]

Look for fabsol situation on yt

[granite sapphire]

Might ask my mom to play the lottery after this

[fathom wadi]

I got the grand dad weapon recently and I gotta say

H O W is this weapon post signus and not like post xeroc or smth like that this weapon has absolutely rediculous dps

[fading lagoon]

shhhhh if ur talk about it too much theyll nerf it next patch

[granite sapphire]

It's high DPS cause it's a really close tmelee weapon with no benefits

[fathom girder]

Honestly all this makes me realize is that I really like arc flash ring

[granite sapphire]

Also it's more of a "lol" weapon tbh, the kind of weapon you'd use to send great sand shark across the map

[granite sapphire]

Arc Flash Ring is great for ceaseless, though idk about dog since I didn't use it that much

[fathom girder]

It grants a 5% chance to do 3x damage, don't matta where it's used that's a universally useful accessory and I LOVE it

[inner timber]

it becomes funny once you kill exos and scal

[fathom girder]

grand dad confuses me

[inner timber]

mmmm knockback

[hot wadi]

To the devs, I take it that the waters from the Sunken Sea shouldn't leak this far into the world, yes?

[inner timber]

yeah, usually means there's a hole somewhere in the sunken sea . kinda hard to guarantee there isnt one unless there's a bigass border around the sea guaranteed, so you'd just have to go and find where the hole is (pretty visually obvious there) nd plug it

[regal vessel]

Is development gonna be faster now that fabsols gone

[inner timber]

probably

[fathom girder]

Alright time for a funny run

Imma do this on rogue so I can stealth strike nuke the universe

[regal vessel]

What the actual hell

The last major content update was in 2021

[frosty marten]

That's just 2 years ago tho

Right?
Right...

[regal vessel]

The last 5 years of development have just been reworking shit

I dont really mind it but like I kinda wish the mod was finished first progression-wise before they started polishing everything

[fathom girder]

The reason they don't do that is because they see polishing the current content as practice, so that they can make the future new content wayyy better

[hushed hazel]

yeag

[fathom girder]

It's a process, and it's an effective one. It just takes time

[hushed hazel]

one example they brought up was like

[hot wadi]

Sea leaks are:
on one hand, the best obsidian source I've had in a while
on the other hand, a major FPS reducer for my PC