calamity-update-talk

[pine moat]

they made terraprisma stronger so i guess that's why they put it back as a daytime challenge, though idk why instead of removing the low drop rate chance from bags (or was it eol herself), they just let you get it if you do her hitless day or night

[twin roost]

Holy shit Yharon is fair now. This is peak, thank you Calamity devs.

SO so much.

[autumn rune]

we are at the very beginning, but we killed eye without preparation, I remember it was very hard last time

[jagged copper]

really? That sucks :/

[tall mulch]

question, when will the wiki be updated???? cuz im on my first run on range and idk what to build xd

[hasty tangle]

just experiment for yourself

[tall mulch]

fair enough

[rotund shell]

I see the point being that players who can nohit eol dont need a power upgrade game mentality blahblah but like it's a trophy weapon, it aint like beating fishron pre-mechs which trivializes the game

[pine moat]

the guide should still largely work,just take a look at options not in the progression guide, you'll surprise yourself sometimes

[rotund shell]

You also dont really need it

[hot knot]

i’d assume it’s undergoing changes and #wiki-discussion features some amount of progress to that

you can suggest stuff of your own if you wish

[rotund shell]

Did you use featherfalling now? Maybe u got good or figured its dashes actually have patterns

[mellow spade]

i'd be ok with terraprisma being locked behind daytime empress if they didn't make her one-shot you again

[pine moat]

terraprisma is in an awkward spot atm honestly. it's at the stage of progression where going all in on vengeful sun staff is still slightly better than terraprisma, while the plaguebringer goliath summons just outclass it completely

NEEDS MORE BUFFS

[tall mulch]

i mean, i just got the star cannon and shredded trough pre hard mode

[autumn rune]

I don't think it's okay that we killing eye without prep in masochist-death, I remember how we turned off the difficulty before bosses to kill them

[mellow spade]

i truthfully will not understand why the calamity devs are so against the concept of enraged bosses

like, another change recently involved bosses now despawning out of biome instead of enraging which just... why?

only change I really don't get the logic behind. just let us fight harder versions of bosses if we want to

[young notch]

I find it egregious that certain bosses are even discouraged from being fought outside certain biomes at all but that’s just me.

[rotund shell]

The empress attacks are sometimes inconsistent too. It basically added 30 attempts to my nohit (1 hit). Not to mention the purple cultist attack is pure luck to dodge lol

[tall mulch]

DUDE, literally today i was trying to kill the perforators and if i leave the biome for 1 second it just desappears, and i thought it was a bug

[ivory lark]

which ones?

[tall mulch]

i spent 1 hour to kill him cuz of that

[rotund shell]

Spending 20 minutes building an arena is peak calamity gameplay wym bro

[mellow spade]

it's not about "oh just spend extra time building' like i'll make an arena if i have to, but like

[young notch]

Yharon, primarily. That’s a lot of mobility required for someone that needs to be fought in the jungle. Had to make actuated lihzahrd bricks.

[rotund shell]

I'm kidding

[young notch]

PBG on a lesser scale too

[mellow spade]

i enjoyed boss enrage mechanics because it was like "ok, if you want to cut corners, you gotta prove yourself" and you get to fight harder bosses

[pine moat]

in terms of choosing what attacks she does, it kinda does feel that way. for example, after her first attack, she either does sundance or ethereal lance, sadly i can't comment much on her lower half attacks since during her stage of progression, it only took me 59 seconds to kill her with summoner gear, not even pre lunar stuff

[mellow spade]

it was fun fighting daytime empress just because I could, but now you have to no-hit her and you have to do so for terraprisma which... sucks ngl

at least enraged desert scourge doesn't despawn, so that's fun

[upper hatch]

Wonder if I should do a M*lee playthrough, or an "only stuff reworked/added in 2.1" playthrough

Probably the first one first and the second one sometime later

[mellow spade]

but even things like EoC despawning at day, I just don't get it

[pine moat]

at least reactive DR is gone, so if you have good dps, you only need to memorize a handful of moves

[rotund shell]

To limit time

[still bluff]

[pine moat]

took me only a minute to kill her (after dying a couple dozen times XD) pre-lunar

[ivory lark]

yharon needs to be fought in the jungle..?

[mellow spade]

i might be the only person who liked timed DR, I thought it was way too strict but not deserving of outright removal

[pine moat]

yharonfolly

[grim pecan]

yharon has not needed to be fought in the jungle for a long time

[mellow spade]

I'm Malice mode's strongest soldier, I understand why it was removed but I will defend the mode until the very end

and the enraged boss AI is just what's left of Malice, so by extension, yeah

[ivory lark]

malice wasn't removed

[young notch]

Wait a fucking

What the hell??????

[mellow spade]

you know what I mean, the original malice mode

where every boss was enraged

[rotund shell]

I fought her 100 times, her attacks are completely random second phase, sometimes egregious prismatic bolts that spawn too far from the empress. I think she has the cultist syndrome where all her attacks are too easy to dodge and one is pure rng

[young notch]

I don’t- I swear it said

oh my god I’m sorry

[pine moat]

🥹

[mellow spade]

like I get it, it was unneccesary bloat

[fallen phoenix]

I really like the new ||Staff of the mechworm|| rework

[mellow spade]

still found it fun tho

[fallen phoenix]

Not sure what all is changed from before, because I recall the original having a vaguely similar moveset, but less flashy

[pine moat]

have u tried going all in on the staff's minion slots

[fallen phoenix]

yeah

[rotund shell]

It was an uglier stardust dragon

[pine moat]

what if it's as good as when you go all in on vengeful sun staff

[fallen phoenix]

I forgot to mention that I noticed vengeful sun is really cool

[pine moat]

any summoners out there, if you get vengeful sun staff, GO ALL IN. it's better dps than its other options at that stage of the progression XD (also slightly higher dps than terraprisma for some reason when putting it against dummies)

[rotund shell]

Actuated blocks my beloved

[fallen phoenix]

I have like 11 slots

[young notch]

Not as bad as I thought, then. Still a bit iffy on PBG but that didn’t require actuation. Just needed a wide area with a platform above that barely didn’t reach outside the jungle

[fallen phoenix]

I just use the plantera arena for it

[young notch]

Again sorry for the misunderstanding, I could’ve sworn I read the wiki a bunch of times during my playthrough and it said that Yharon enraged outside the jungle

Not fandom

I was just dumb apparently

[pine moat]

happens to the best of us

[spark kiln]

it used to

actually no it didn’t used to but you had to summon it in the jungle

[mighty geyser]

yeah

[covert junco]

Is anyone else having an issue with killing brain of cuthulu? It spawns in like normal only does one phase and when I kill it no bag drops.. Send help please!

[pine moat]

im thinking of destroying the entire world, then just making planetoids or mini floating biomes of all kinds

[mighty geyser]

he hasnt enraged outside the jungle since 2017

[spark kiln]

just fight it in expert for the bag

[rotund shell]

The master mode death mode thingy just made the astralgeldon fight impossible for me

[covert junco]

I am in expert

[rotund shell]

[spark kiln]

lol idk then

[upper hatch]

why does iv drip on the rocks exist

whose idea it was

"ah yeah, alcohol as an accessory"

[ivory lark]

pbg can be spawned in any part of the jungle

[upper hatch]

i just can't

it is too funny

[ivory lark]

above ground or underground

you don't actually need to fight her underground

[young notch]

I fought her above

[rotund shell]

Her? Goliath is a she?

[upper hatch]

Really?

I always have repurposed the Vernal Pass as the arena for all Jungle bosses

[pine moat]

oh, i just use the plantera arena for pbg, but depending on how good im feeling, i sometimes have to replace the entire background with diamond gemspark walls. it's genuienly hard to see the projectiles blending in with the environment if you're not used to the boss

[young notch]

She’s a queen bee

[rotund shell]

Weird name for a girl but okay lol

[spark kiln]

bro what

[young notch]

I hear people say “use the plantera arena” a lot and maybe I should, but I needed to iterate on my arena a lot cuz I needed a lot of space to run away from her projectiles. Had a really awkward time trying to circle them.

But maybe I wasn’t doing it correctly.

[ivory lark]

many women would love to be named PLAGUEBRINGER GOLIATH

[pine moat]

you can make the arena more square, and definitely add platforms. me personally, i space it out by 25 blocks

[mellow spade]

so CV was only just the beginning, huh

well, it's as I feared, master statbloat ruins lategame death mode

Polterghast should not be able to 2-shot me with a defensive loadout

[pine moat]

u can replace the wall with diamond gemspark cuz its hard to see the projectiles if youre not used to it

[young notch]

Brainstorm made her projectiles more visible so that’s nice

[pine moat]

oh that's neat

[mellow spade]

never mind i had the wrong accessories on for Polter 💀 that explains a lot

[kindred spruce]

Any idea why pre-hardmode Aquatic is crashing my game on multiplayer?

[rotund shell]

Offline diamond gemspark* because then you cant see any of the bright projectiles

[young notch]

But yeah, I had to fight her on the surface. Needed a lot of space.

[pine moat]

i was used to her by the time brainstorm released so i couldn't tell

[young notch]

But it made it awkward trying to make sure she didn’t enrage.

[halcyon seal]

As opposed to a guy named Plaguebringer Goliath, which of course would be normal and expected

[ivory lark]

can u make a bug report and send a log for the hotfix

[young notch]

Maybe I’m just Bad™

[kindred spruce]

no logs showing up

[pine moat]

the glowy ones still look visible eonugh for me

[ivory lark]

lol

[rotund shell]

Yeah, cause Goliath is a man's name

[ivory lark]

okay

[young notch]

I’m happy to know that Yharon doesn’t enrage outside the jungle tho, like good lord I swear that’s what I read

Oh well

[rotund shell]

Just read the spawner, it says it enrages outside of the fire walls

[spark kiln]

goliath is often used to mean “big thing”

[pine moat]

speaking of yharon, definitely hit the summon button on the ground XD or the fire walls will be too high up and you wont notice you've enraged yharon already

[young notch]

I knew about the walls but

agh

[amber fern]

hrmmmm is plagued fuel pack bugged 0.o, says its conflicting with items but i literally took off all my accessories lol

[mellow spade]

369 damage from polterghast

And just when I thought I was getting used to Master

[young notch]

Oh yeah I forgot about Dragonfolly

I don’t really remember how he went tho so I can’t really criticize that

Maybe that contributed to my confusion

[pine moat]

yeah tbh he's not that hard compared to its adjacent bosses in the progression

man i really hate saying that shit

[grand mirage]

Dragonfolly really do be the odd one out of post-ml

[pine moat]

i've become the thing i've despised

[pseudo trench]

has wotg and wotm been updated to calamity 2.1 yet

[mellow spade]

they need to take the damage from post-ML death mode and give it to pre-ML

[pine moat]

i think he's inline with the sentinels and polterghast interms of difficulty

[mellow spade]

hardmode bosses do like no damage but post-ML bosses to way way way too much

[young notch]

https://tenor.com/view/pin-pins-read-read-pins-read-pins-in-general-gif-15783438075040607027

[pseudo trench]

hm ok

[young notch]

Except in this case general is #calamity-update-talk

[pseudo trench]

i see now thank you

[young notch]

Yup yup!

[hazy pine]

what class should i go for the new pt

im not playing rogue

[grand mirage]

Mage and melee

[mellow spade]

why did defence get nerfed so hard? usually I have like 170 by now but like what could I possibly do here

[earnest jewel]

Defence was a bit OP I heard.

[mellow spade]

ok but late game death mode bosses are way too strong
I should not be getting 3-shot by Polterghast with a full defensive loadout

[hazy pine]

mage it is

[cobalt wharf]

boss damage was nerfed at the same time to equalize the levels.

[turbid halo]

Sounds reasonable

[young notch]

Didn’t a lot of boss values get nerfed too?

[mellow spade]

it definitely wasn't, nearly 400 damage at this stage of the game with a defensive build and only 740 max health is ridiculous

[cobalt wharf]

ur on master

[mellow spade]

yeah, because death forces master now

[cobalt wharf]

it’s kinda always been like that

[mellow spade]

hence why I never played master until now...

[amber fern]

plagebringer down finally sheesh. kept gettin him to like 10k 😭

[mellow spade]

but like, not playing master means I have to fight the boring Revengeance mode bosses

[fallen phoenix]

i went full warding on summoner. helps a lot

[mellow spade]

those fights aren't nearly as fun boss AI-wise

so it's either overtuned death bosses or boring rev bosses :/

[mellow spade]

could try that, i've been mixing prefixes a lot

the third view of this is honestly rogue might be the weakest class in 2.1

[fallen phoenix]

helped a lot on 1.4.5

i mean, 28 defense +7% dr is quite meaty

[turbid halo]

Speaking of

[amber fern]

could also go hard reforge. extra +1 armor per accessory

[fallen phoenix]

i forgot that lower accessories get different stats now

[turbid halo]

I simply could not defeat 1.4.5 Moonlord past expert. Had to claim the insulting normal fight.

EVEN WITH POSSESSION I CANT DO IT WTF

[rugged gale]

so while looking for alternatives to ankh (thanks to the massive nerf asgard's got) it turns out that laudanum is now even more broken than ankh was

[fallen phoenix]

feels like 1.4.5 is harder. Took me 2 tries to beat ML

[mellow spade]

laudanum's always been kinda broken it just was unusable because you were immune to everything

[rugged gale]

its even more broken since it not only got that fixed (and asgards doesnt give immunity) but it now also nullifies cursed and silenced

[turbid halo]

He is in general more cramped and hasty. The rising up projectiles turn into inevitable cruise missiles, and the final part i can see defeated only through endurance

[unique warren]

Imma be fr with you, death and revengeance ain't even all that different

[mellow spade]

they are very much, after doing a lot of testing

[fallen phoenix]

all i really did on the 2nd try was use stardust dragon instead of terraprisma

[unique warren]

Like it's noticeable but it's genuinely not a crazy jump

[mellow spade]

it's noticeable enough that I vastly prefer Death over Rev

[unique warren]

Alr ig lmao

[rugged gale]

to me it seems practically mandatory for runs now, and its more broken than ankh ever was, being available in prehardmode with nothing besides boss grinding

[mellow spade]

I like Death boss AI, but Expert's stats

can't have both anymore sadly

[turbid halo]

I used the cells and dragon, 2 to 6. Seemed to melt the eyes in a minute, but DAMN can he melt me in a minute too

[unique warren]

Which is good

[hard copper]

The enemy damage goes up like 50%

[rugged gale]

most of the bosses got hp and damage nerfs thankfully

[young notch]

I find Revengeance to be a perfectly serviceable challenge for me.
I still play master mode on vanilla tho.

[turbid halo]

From 2x to 3x of normal mode

[mellow spade]

i am fighting Polterghast right now i promise you it's not enough

[unique warren]

Expert death and master revengeance were silly, just like master eternity was in Souls Mod

Good riddance imo

[fathom girder]

Expert death and master revengeance were bait for egomaniacs

"WhICh ReVeNGeANCe"

[rugged gale]

its honestly kinda baffling how easy laudanum is compared to ankh, even before the crafting recipes for the components got removed in 2.1

[amber fern]

in base terraria i prefer expert overall, master if im feeling spicy.

calamity i usually just do revengeance and call it a day

[jagged copper]

yeah Death Moonlord really needs a nerf, because this is literally just old Malice Moonlord but without the prediction and a slightly slower deathray

[mellow spade]

having to abuse unintentionally strong lifesteal items to beat a boss withut driving my head through the wall feels like bad game design

everything up to sentinels was fine tbh

(the slowdown was from alt-tabbing out, which counts for some reason)

[stiff escarp]

hi does this mod work with 1.4.5

[fierce nebula]

❌

[tall mulch]

DAMN

[rugged gale]

ankh at least required substantial work in a bunch of different places to get, and was gated to hardmode

[mellow spade]

(to be fair, screenshot is mildly misleading cuz that was with no potions, it's 103 with ironskin)

(but 8 defence doesn't make a crazy difference)

[fathom girder]

damage is supposed to be nerfed from bosses overall to compensate

[mellow spade]

"supposed"

[fathom girder]

You're also on death mode

[mellow spade]

I really, really hope the master stat bloat didn't get to DoG because I so desperately want to enjoy it

[rugged gale]

laudanum now just does everything ankh can but better

[fierce nebula]

Me when death mode is hard

[mellow spade]

this shouldn't be an excuse for overtuned statbloat

[fierce nebula]

Master mode is just like that

[mellow spade]

there's hard and then there's "you got hit? screw you"

[turbid halo]

Not

[mellow spade]

the boss AI isn't hard, not really
but if you mess up once you're just done for

[rugged gale]

part of the point tbh

[fathom girder]

Do you have anything else to say other than that

[turbid halo]

And it is universally agreed to be not a good difficulty mode

[fathom girder]

Is it actually "stat bloat" or are you just tilted because dmode is hard

[rugged gale]

i think its fun

[fierce nebula]

I think it’s fine but could be improved a lot

[mellow spade]

I have done challenges far more difficult than this, I promise you

[rugged gale]

but i also have 2k hours and find expert "too easy"

[mellow spade]

But in those cases, it was always me not knowing what to do

[fathom girder]

Great! I'm not sure they translate directly to this, then

[turbid halo]

Its literally just expert with turned up stats, zero ai changes

[mellow spade]

Having to learn boss attack patterns and stuff
I know these fights like the back of my hand, but I'm not perfect

And having to be almost perfect, after a certain point, it's just annoying

[spark kiln]

death mode is exclusive to master so it’s not just stat bloat anymore

[fathom girder]

Y'know the AI did get changed with a lot of bosses due to them getting reverted back to their pre-BH state, right

Whatever it is you remember is likely sabotaging you

[mellow spade]

Polterghast felt the exact same to me

[lyric trellis]

Polter is still just polter

[mellow spade]

(And I never played Master before this)

[twin roost]

Is Godslayer Dash bugged or does it just kinda suck now?

[turbid halo]

Fair enough.

[fathom girder]

Then I'm smellin' a skill issue somewhere in your game plan

[rugged gale]

it also:
adds an accessory slot
makes defense stronger
makes you drop all money instead of 75%
adds some of the best mounts in all of the vanilla game

[twin roost]

Exos changes are negligable, thank you devs for making them hit like wet noodles.

[turbid halo]

Wait what

[young notch]

Polterghast is still my favorite boss in the mod

[mellow spade]

it's hard to say "it's not a skill issue" but there's literally nothingelse I can do

I can do a fight nearly perfectly, get hit once, and be almost dead

[young notch]

Very well designed

[rugged gale]

master mode adds an accessory slot

[mellow spade]

That's not a skill issue
That's just bad game design

[rugged gale]

its the main reason i prefer it over expert

[twin roost]

I love all it's interesting attacks. 🔥

[rugged gale]

"just dont get hit"

[turbid halo]

Mounts, dude. Wdym exclusive mounts what are thoooooose? 👀

[spark kiln]

pirate ship

[calm ingot]

Build issue

[fierce nebula]

it's the top difficulty

[mellow spade]

full defensive build

[mellow spade]

still not an excuse to make things overtuned

[native thistle]

Like.... ✨ Dashing diagonally ✨

[fierce nebula]

It should be punishing

[mellow spade]

i've done harder challenge runs before and they've all been more fun than this because they rely on difficult attack patterns

[spark kiln]

the 2 polters converging on you is fun and cool

[calm ingot]

Actually idk how builds work after 2.1 maybe they nerfed the shit out of all the good defensive items

[mellow spade]

not obscene damage numbers

[rugged gale]

there's the witches broom from mourning wood (infinite flight like ufo/fishron but with base player hitbox) black spot from pirates (one of the fastest mounts in the game)

[young notch]

THIS

[fathom girder]

Buzzword time!
Overtuned = Number too high for me
Stat bloat = My damage isn't high enough
Unbalanced = idk what I'm doing

[young notch]

The fight has really cool rhythm and movement

[fathom girder]

Remember this, folks

[mellow spade]

my damage is just fine enough
it's HALF MY HEALTH IN ONE HIT ON A DEFENSIVE LOADOUT
and I never said "unbalanced"

[native thistle]

Polter is poopy and I'm done pretending it isn't.

[rugged gale]

that's it?

[mellow spade]

saying "it's the hardest difficulty" is a lazy excuse

[rugged gale]

healing potions exist for a reason

[spark kiln]

polter is a fun boss to me 👍

[halcyon seal]

BLAZING CORE!!!

[spark kiln]

dawg if you wanna be right you can’t say stupid shit

[rugged gale]

?

[still cobalt]

This is very dismissive of real and valid arguments that can be made

[native thistle]

The agenda must be maintained

[spark kiln]

healing potions are not an excuse to make a boss two shot

[mellow spade]

i can understand why, like, for example, Polter's dash should do a ton of damage

[timid holly]

is the sponge better or worse than the absorber in the new update

[rugged gale]

they're an integral part of the game's flow

[mellow spade]

but when the arena is filled with projectiles that do almost the exact same amount of damage, of course that's too much

[spark kiln]

that doesn’t mean you can just give things ludicrous damage values

[rugged gale]

half your health isnt that excessive to me

[fathom girder]

However, people who are unable to actually explain what the issue is that want to blame the boss default to these terms. It's somethin' I've picked up on these since the update released

[spark kiln]

well that’s a you thing

bosses dealing half your health with every attack is not the standard

[jagged copper]

an attack taking 1/4 of your health is already a hefty hit

[rugged gale]

tbf i enjoyed infernum and eternity death so maybe my perception is warped

[mellow spade]

the issue is that a slow-moving projectile-heavy boss fought in a confined space should not be doing extreme amounts of damage, especially not when the boss takes around 3 minutes to kill

[spark kiln]

no it’s not because of that

[mellow spade]

that enough for you, or is it still a "skill issue"

[spark kiln]

those don’t have damage values that high consistently either

[mellow spade]

i too enjoyed infernum and eternity death because those don't have high damage values just hard attack patterns which are fun to learn

[rugged gale]

maybe make the arena bigger?

[mellow spade]

forsaken archive is big enough
it always has been

[turbid halo]

I have a sort of personal vendetta against infernum DoG cuz it took meover 80 tries over several days to clear its ass

[rugged gale]

i still remember back when dog had an instakill on a bite

[jagged copper]

I've noticed as well that money is a lot more scarce while reforges remain as expensive as ever

[worn bison]

yo did they nerfed the reaver shark?

[mellow spade]

I am also wondering if there's a bug because I'm checking the wiki and I'm noticing these numbers are a lot lower than what I was taking

[halcyon seal]

Yes

[rugged gale]

good riddance

[mellow spade]

Ok... uh... what?

[spark kiln]

they didn’t nerf it they unbuffed it

[spark kiln]

wiki not updated

[rugged gale]

its back to vanilla stats>

[jagged copper]

defense reforges no longer scale with progression

[mellow spade]

Oh, ok

[spark kiln]

that’s buns

[mellow spade]

no I'm just confused cuz I thought I was taking more damage than I shold be

[jagged copper]

Warding will always give +4 defense and +1% DR now

[halcyon seal]

Hard gives +5 defense and no DR if you want that

[tall mulch]

yo guys, wich class had the most reworked or new weapons and stuff????

[rugged gale]

i did notice there's a neat little thing called "dauntless"
+15hp

[halcyon seal]

Mage

[spark kiln]

RIP blood flare core

[tall mulch]

fr?

[jagged copper]

that can be seen as a downgrade considering DR is more valuable than Defense

[tall mulch]

i thought it was range

[halcyon seal]

Either that or melee, personally I wouldn’t stick to a class though

[tall mulch]

ofc me neither

[spark kiln]

melee mage and ranger all got a lot

[mellow spade]

but 114 defence and 22.18% DR should be really good
even if the attack does 400 damage that should be around 222 damage

[rugged gale]

calamity whips when

[tall mulch]

when i finish my range run imma do a melee run

[dusk bronze]

Eventually™

[spark kiln]

The Summoner Update

[mellow spade]

i promise this is far from my first time playing calamity and it's never felt this damaging

[spark kiln]

also ranger got more reworks than mage

[mellow spade]

and like, for what it's worth, this is a defensive build

If I'm taking 250+ damage with a mixed loadout then yeah I'd get it

[still cobalt]

Send the build

[mellow spade]

granted it's limited by having to put a couple accessories on for rogue

vampiric talisman's lifesteal is stupid powerful now btw

half warding, half silent

[rugged gale]

polterghast does 540 on contact in phase 3

[mellow spade]

331 damage with this build... that's kinda crazy for a boss that dashes so much

[turbid halo]

Why does terraria like insane contact damage so much

[mellow spade]

wouldn't be so hard to ram through it if it weren't for the countless bouncing projectiles
honestly, this might be a boss issue, Polter is kinda... eh

[coral thorn]

summoner is so mid against dog

[mellow spade]

I'm less bothered by the contact damage and more by the projectiles

[alpine flare]

hey guys is the infernal eclipse of ragnarok gonna update to 2.1?

[spark kiln]

what does that ring do

[turbid halo]

Wrong server

[rugged gale]

yeah all of them do over 400

[mellow spade]

If a boss shoots a lot of projectiles, and they're not in short-lasting predictable patterns (like Yharon and DoG for instance) it probably shouldn't do almost as much as the boss itself

[modest hull]

hey guys, anyone else has had an issue of a full blackscreen when going down in the abyss? ;-;

[mellow spade]

the bottom one? abyssal mirror

[spark kiln]

no the ring in your vanity

[mellow spade]

oh, that's arc flash ring

[rugged gale]

oo?

[spark kiln]

i know but what does it do

[halcyon seal]

Rune Wizard contact damage is the strongest single attack in all of terraria

[mellow spade]

I was using it for more damage, but took it off for more defence

[mellow spade]

5% chance for attacks to summon a lightning strike for 3x damage

chance is reduced each time an attack hits so if an attack pierces for instance it's less likely on each pierce

[turbid halo]

What, is he secretly charging King Punch to end my existence before coming?

[crimson wraith]

Battle potion increases the chance of anahita spawning right?

[mellow spade]

it's fairly good for damage ngl

[crimson wraith]

I didn't know she could spawn pre hardmode but she kept spawning then and now when I'm trying to fight her she's nowhere to be seen

[opaque flume]

Why do some of my items say unloaded item ?

[turbid halo]

It counts as rare mob, so it logically should

[turbid halo]

You have some mods unloaded from the player and world that used them

[crimson wraith]

Or items that the update removed

[mellow spade]

I've souped up the defence a little more, I'm gonna try the fight again without any post-polter gear and see if it's a bit more manageable

[crimson wraith]

If that's the case luck should help too

[opaque flume]

Thank you

[twin roost]

Thanatos just sent me through the spin cycle supreme.

[rugged gale]

wtf 600 dmg

[mellow spade]

Ok, so that was 239 damage from one of Polterghast's shots in phase 1 with a defensive build

Come on. That's too much.

[halcyon seal]

its only beaten by instakill enrages and dungeon guardian

phantasmal deathray, explosives, boulders, all of them are weaker than the rune wizard

[brittle ferry]

reddit tripping this update is fire

[hard copper]

This has good death message potential

[mellow spade]

123 defence, 19.25% DR, it's a little projectile, it shouldn't be that bad

[halcyon seal]

dont worry they always do that

[quiet spade]

this tp fits so well the new brain

[rugged gale]

360 base damage?

450 from the explosion

[amber fern]

average reddit experience tbh

[mellow spade]

yeah but with 123 defence, 19.25% DR, it shouldn't be that strong

[inner timber]

your dr is lower than you think probably

[mellow spade]

so either it's bugged or I had defence damage or I don't know how defence scales in calamity

[mellow spade]

I'm reading off the stat meter

[inner timber]

the dr curve exists after all
that + yeah possibly defense damage iunno

[rugged gale]

390 from the explosion

[jagged copper]

for fuck sake

[mellow spade]

One thing I will also say is that molten amputator is a terrible weapon for visiblity

[inner timber]

iunno if stat meter gives you the curved dr

[jagged copper]

why is moonlord even worse than he was before

[unique warren]

I wonder if the team will perhaps add more death exclusive items now that it's tied to master

[mellow spade]

ok about 200 damage from a p3 projectile from full health with no defence damage

Maybe it's just a boss issue, honestly?

[rugged gale]

not too bad for death mode at post-ml

[mellow spade]

Cuz the two bosses that i've been annoyed with are CV and Polter both of which are projectile spam bosses

Like, Providence does a lot of damage but she was just fine...

[rugged gale]

both in the same arena?

[mellow spade]

Yep

[rugged gale]

i think that might be the actual problem

[mellow spade]

Forsaken Archive, with all the platforms gone except one in the middle I made myself

I feel like the Archive should be big enough

174 from another shot, ok so it's not too bad with a defensive build
it's just the chain-hits

[rugged gale]

thats how they get you

[native thistle]

CV is stinky and should be atomized

[mellow spade]

Ok, so a defensive build solves it a bit. Just gotta lock in. However, I maintain the fight is overtuned, because the problem with a defensive build is it also does this:

Molten Amputator is a pretty strong rogue weapon, especially the right click

[silk gate]

Any ideas about when 'beyond the sunken sea' update will drop or be announced?

[mellow spade]

Both right clicks, actually
The fact it still takes five minutes because I had to go full defence? Mmm, don't like it.

[dusk bronze]

what does that mean

[silk gate]

I just saw this video on ytb

[lavish river]

What class have you guys been enjoying a lot so far with the new update? Trying to get some ideas as to what to play as for my next playthrough :)

[silk gate]

watch?v=x6M7XRgp5g0

[dusk bronze]

there's a 95% chance it was just lying

[fathom girder]

Not a real thing

[grand mirage]

Rogue because I haven't done Rogue yet

[dusk bronze]

mage

[lavish river]

Read the comments

[twin ingot]

mage with star rye ;D

[lavish river]

Mage looks so sick now, I might give it a shot

[crimson wraith]

Specter armor casually healing for 120 hp wtf is this

[steep path]

If I'm someone who usually played death expert before should I go for rev or death... I'm feeling death tbh

They made master not stupid anymore right

[dusk bronze]

master is no longer stupid

[steep path]

Based

[inner timber]

are you sure the video was not just talking about the roadmap and what might be happening after sso comes out

i dont think there will be a literal "beyond the sunken sea" update

[tropic jolt]

master is now only a vanilla amount of stupid

[twin roost]

Primordial Wyrm.
Grand Dad.
Very cute. :3

[jagged copper]

except for Moon Lord

[mystic eagle]

Slick Cane is kill

[tropic jolt]

no 😢

[quiet spade]

help

[wide wadi]

Same thing happened to me

[tropic jolt]

win

[wide wadi]

Bruh there’s no way to fight queen bee in there without both spawning

[tropic jolt]

house

[quiet spade]

fr

[brittle escarp]

Just fight both, then you get double the rewards. Win win

[quiet spade]

but i think i got it, fighting both is not that hard after all

[fallen phoenix]

i had to fight all of them at once thanks to minion projectiles

[silver shuttle]

I had to fight three bee queens at once

I don’t even know where the second amd third came from

[grand mirage]

Beemosis

[lilac prairie]

why did calamity srsly remove clock gatlignum

this update pmo

[grand mirage]

Good thing I'm not mage thia playthrough or I'd prob be way more sad about Asteroid Staff

[west isle]

the new interstellar stomper buff is 🔥

[lilac prairie]

yo everyone, yall want to organize a petition on change.org to revert 2.1.0

[spark kiln]

fuck outta here

[fading lagoon]

nop

[rapid warren]

ranger has plenty of other weapons for you to use that still exist in 2.1.0

[dull heart]

whats

going on

[grand mirage]

Nah BoC is too cool now to take out back old yeller style now.

[lilac prairie]

they removed cores eleum, sun, and havoc

this update is bs

[deft lily]

0/10 ragebait

[grand mirage]

I saw BoC do kickflips out back with a skateboard he rad af

[thick halo]

does base master mode have the revengeance changes?

[west isle]

whoever buffed the interstellar stopers is goated

[spark kiln]

i wonder why they removed a useless weapon nobody ever used

[rose laurel]

Good ragebait using the update name

[rapid warren]

oh they did? missed that. always nice having less unnecessary materials

[rose laurel]

7/10

[dull heart]

this update is in fact, BS

Brainstorm

[spark kiln]

😮😮😮😮

[lilac prairie]

smh

[deft lily]

vanilla difficulties are no longer changed by calamity

[grand mirage]

Removed trapper bulbs this update is god

[spark kiln]

they made like half the weapons in the game cool as shit and made lots of good changes to bosses but THE ESSENCE OF SUNLIGHT BRO

[verbal bough]

[halcyon seal]

i think there was a hostage situation

the core of havoc has been removed. release the hostages

[lyric trellis]

The thought anyone giving a damn and Clock Gatlignum is funny

[deft lily]

my precious cores of eleum, sun, and havoc!?!? removed!?!?

what...
no, dude...

[spark kiln]

wait they didn’t even remove the essence just the cores lmaooo

[grand mirage]

Hot take but Terrarua has too much useless enemy materials cluttering the inventory. Gotta go back to the base every 10 minutes just to clean my pockets out.

[fading lagoon]

honestly if we werent talking abou the clock gatligunm getting removed than i wouldve never noticed

[dull heart]

merkalto spotted

[terse dew]

Terraria needs currency bloat

[fallen olive]

insane spoiler for the mod. this is a game changer guys

[dull heart]

terrarinflation

[deft lily]

hot take: this argument could be applied to any rpg survival sandbox game like, ever

[grand mirage]

Give me electrum, a random useless currency that's an in-between of silver and gold.

[terse dew]

How else will you get players to play for 40 hours a run

[deft lily]

npc housing is now 800k

[fathom girder]

Hark, lads, another red nation soldier

[deft lily]

no way
big E from the hit game terraria calamity mod

[terse dew]

Yeah, restrict gold income and farming and just make a billion currencies that you need to convert to gold through niche means

[grand mirage]

Tax Collecter becomes the richest man in the world.

[mellow spade]

is a little big E just a regular E?

[terse dew]

That way you can charge people playing for gold in game... like some sort of cash shop

[mellow spade]

(also btw wow you cooked with BoC)

[deft lily]

Big E and Little E

[rapid warren]

hell the essence itself is still in. it’s just used in place of the core in some recipes now (nvm you already said that)

[terse dew]

Micro transaction enjoyer 🤩

[grand mirage]

That's just Defender Medals

[dull heart]

i cooked with ur mom

we made tacos

[deft lily]

[terse dew]

Did you make steak tacos

[fallen olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054097550577254440/1470511277066424390/2026-02-09_15-05-53.mp4?ex=698b8fd9&is=698a3e59&hm=c5670633b991034143801751d0b1e9d2218056014f7ab327291c7a199284044b&

[dull heart]

yes

[sterile grail]

whats the fix for the new update?

[dull heart]

this looks SO cursed when you face left

[deft lily]

based vcmm user spotted

[fallen olive]

Big 3

[dull heart]

Big 3

DANG IT

[fallen olive]

lmfao

[fathom girder]

You either 3 or you E

's just how it is on this bitch of an earth

[deft lily]

what if i wanted to be a 6...

[terse dew]

E is the 5th letter of the English alphabet... yet it looks like the number 3... curious 🧐

conspiracy afoot

[fathom girder]

and the E in Big E's name is the 4th letter... how intriguing...

[dull heart]

5 looks like the number 3

if you squint hard enough

[mellow spade]

OH NOOOO THEY DIDN'T FIX THIS

I DONE FISHED UP THE WHOLE RETIREMENT HOME

[dusk bronze]

because it's intentional

[pulsar torrent]

guys, DoG 2.1 surpassed DoG Infernum

[jagged copper]

yeah idk how to deal with Moonlord, Phantasmal Spheres are constantly blind sighting me from off-screen, inflicting nightwither and draining my hp by a shit load and breaking my defense

[pulsar torrent]

very cool boss fight

[fallen olive]

781 - Removed Old Duke.

[dusk bronze]

[deft lily]

[grave geyser]

Fals..

[jagged copper]

why he didn't keep the slowdown when an eye comes out is beyond me

[terse dew]

DoG is... fun media..? 😲

[lyric trellis]

Unheard of

[fathom girder]

Centripede DoG is officially lost media, folks

[jagged copper]

this is honestly frustrating me because every boss up until this point on death has been a major step up, and now we're back to dogshit

[wary crest]

Mage is a tad bit absurd
Nucleosynthesis absolutely wrecked infernum profaned gaurdians, that was a joke 😭

[radiant sparrow]

My only complaint about the update so far is that bosses should be doing a little more damage. Rn I feel like I can get away with so many fuck ups

[jagged copper]

please for the love of god can we give him back the slowdown on death, even if it's to a reduced effect

[terse dew]

Consuming health upgrades makes you tankier

So really if you want to die more often, don't make them 🤩

They're not a required part of progression, despite feeling like it

[radiant sparrow]

That's completely not my point. Pre brainstorm I was being bitched by bosses but the bosses I struggled on I did first go and sometimes without a real arena

[icy stump]

The Horse made the new attacks for Crabulon?

[deep bough]

A horse is coding calamity?

[terse dew]

My guess is that tanking hits is more viable by design

[icy stump]

Was (Fab)

[lyric trellis]

Yeah

Death Crab is kinda insane it’s funny

[deep bough]

Am I the only one who doesn’t like how the sunken sea looks on the map now with the blocks looking white?

[radiant sparrow]

I don't like how easy revengance mode feels. But at the same time I feel like death mode is gonna make me mald

[icy stump]

I like it, it feels different

[terse dew]

I don't think the point of it is to make you mad and bald

and so they're moving away from that game dev philosophy a bit

[crimson wraith]

Why is the leviathan summon item post leviathan 💔

[dull heart]

you're right, good catch
782 - removed Rogue

[terse dew]

It's not "omg everything is bullshit and I die in 1 hit"

[mighty geyser]

when od gets ship of theseus'd can this please be the changelog
followed immediately by another changelog that says "Added John Asskicker" or whatever his new name will be

[deft lily]

[tropic jolt]

added new duke

[radiant sparrow]

It's not that I want, I just want it to be like 10-15% harder and actually punishing if I do a huge fuckup

[jagged copper]

cough moonlord cough

[mellow spade]

[tropic jolt]

the acid scraggler

[pseudo vector]

782 - Added Young Duke.

[radiant sparrow]

But I'll see how I do post ml

And then maybe try out master death rogue

[mellow spade]

the result of defensive loadouts being basically mandatory :/

[frosty marten]

782 - Added midlife crisis Duke

[mellow spade]

at least Vega is fun

[terse dew]

And I think that's something you can set for yourself intentionally by avoiding permanent power ups, using less powerful reforges, etc

[icy stump]

There is/was a mod that added it, no jokes

[lusty stirrup]

piss and shit mod

[terse dew]

If you set out to minmax, content will be easier

[mellow spade]

isn't it in CCR

[terse dew]

It's not required to do so in the slightest

[lusty stirrup]

furious scourge of the seas goes hard….

[lusty stirrup]

no CCR removes old duke

[mellow spade]

based

(OD is honestly not even in the bottom 10 for cal bosses ngl)

[lusty stirrup]

hot take old duke is a fun boss…

[mellow spade]

(especially with the new visuals and sounds)

[jagged copper]

based take

[mellow spade]

it is actually
just a very LONG fight

[crimson wraith]

Do villagers reduce her chance to appear?

[fallen olive]

the ppl deserve this

[icy stump]

Is this mod, I checked it

[terse dew]

True

[mellow spade]

IT'S TIME

[twin roost]

Why is he peed on????

[main estuary]

because i poisoned his auric cornflakes

[lusty stirrup]

yeah
young duke has 2 themes

[main estuary]

nevermind i doubt i can salvage this joke

[twin roost]

skull

[main estuary]

usually i delete jokes that are so bad that i can't fix them

[twin roost]

White with a golden accent I think would look significantly better but it's just a nitpick.

[deep bough]

make it brown

[meager yew]

did the Old Lord Claymore drop chances significantly dropped after the update perchance?

[main estuary]

it probably would've looked cooler if it was like the color of the profaned bosses attacks

[dull heart]

if you haven'y killed evil bosses, yes

EoW/BoC

[meager yew]

i did infact

i know its 25 percent after that

[mellow spade]

time to fight DoG for real now

[twin roost]

pooroc

[meager yew]

if it is indeed 25 percent then im hella unlucky

[dull heart]

i just checked

it is 15%

bladecrest does it too

[meager yew]

15%?

[dull heart]

1/25 chance

and 1/4

so uh

idk why it says 15% in the comment

ignore that

[meager yew]

im just that moated

[radiant sparrow]

You should close your eyes and type a number somewhere random

[dull heart]

ok

7

[meager yew]

gods heard me say that OLC is my favourite pre-hardmode melee weapon and striked me down

[jagged copper]

man this fight SUCKED

[dull heart]

OLO was so broken

[fathom girder]

I love that prehm melee can be solved with like. Old lord's claymore alone if you're on a regen tank build

Even after a full rework it sweeps

[mellow spade]

...wow DoG is fun

[meager yew]

hoping it's not nerfed to hell because the new wiki description sounds interesting

[dull heart]

nah it's very good

it just is no longer abusable

it's a stronger weapon then before but no longer cheese machine

[tribal isle]

What’s the texture pack called

[limber veldt]

do yall know if the new update is compatible with infernum ?

[main estuary]

tooth and nail i think

[meager yew]

also is there's something possibly with the droprate and multiplayer because im on a dedicated server rn

[radiant sparrow]

What texture pack is that?

[dull heart]

idk

[fathom girder]

Yeah it's kinda insane

[main estuary]

damn

[dull heart]

if you're not using bloody mary to help farm btw i'd reccomend it

[jagged copper]

Tooth & Nail

[meager yew]

only issue was the one with the brain of chtulhu going home after dying and not actually dying but that's noticed already

[open arch]

“oh but the dash was so broken I don’t like the rewo-“ it was a cure for Fabsol boss programming. Actually feels like a weapon you wanna use for the purpose of the WEAPON now and not just a thing that turns you into a high velocity projective
(I love this thing, it’s really fun on worm enemies)

[meager yew]

KILL

[deep bough]

😍

[fathom girder]

Real

[dull heart]

Bloody Mary is so peak

7x spawns but hordes become a real threat

peak item design

i am biased

[open arch]

drinking one with a Zerg and battle potion lets you experience a mosh pit

[fathom girder]

Oh uh, to all the mages here
Invest in all the draedon weapons at every stage in the game they're very good

[dull heart]

invest in starbeam rye

[fathom girder]

Especially that one laser hand weapon. Super satisfying to use and the little cqc nuke is so sick

[dull heart]

for the next until 2.1.1 drops

[still bluff]

Everyone was in agreement that the draedon weapons are really neat and should be strong for a bit apparently

[fathom girder]

Starbroke rye more like..

[rigid elbow]

guys when i summon brain of cthulu the game just freezes can smn help?

[dull heart]

i had to nerf auger so hard

and it's still so good

[mellow spade]

PEAK

[meager yew]

Not.An.Issue. at all

[mellow spade]

Legit the most fun I've EVER had on DoG

[meager yew]

mobile pulverizator in action

[deft lily]

if you have infernum enabled then turn it off

[dull heart]

what difficulty

[fathom girder]

The laser hand one feels so personal lmao, like vs cultist you fly up to him during his summoning circle thing and BLAMMO

[mellow spade]

Only 3 hits, too

[rigid elbow]

dam alr ty

[dull heart]

death?

[mellow spade]

yep

[dull heart]

death dog is so fun

[mellow spade]

i love the rapid-fire laser walls at the end

[dull heart]

malice dog is even more fun imo but that's a hot take

[dull heart]

that idea cooked so hard

[fathom girder]

I'll try death dog in this run because imma have a warbanner strat to melt him with

[dull heart]

warbanner kinda meh on dog

bc it only counts head

[deep bough]

thats a really cool fact

[fathom girder]

:(

[mellow spade]

yeah you cooked so hard on DoG

[dull heart]

its good if your tm weapon is head focused

[fathom girder]

I think it will be

[dull heart]

it's bad if your tm weapon is Stellar Striker / Mirror blade

[fathom girder]

What about the actual flame aura though? I'm banking on that too

[jagged copper]

Greatsword of Judgement got, time for epicness

[dull heart]

dog segment dr

[fathom girder]

So funny but near useless, rip

[jagged copper]

btw is it worth using Moon Walkers as wings, or just as boots?

[fathom girder]

Depends on the build

I'm gonna use the full moonboots with wings cuz I need the accessory space, for example

[dull heart]

yeah

[jagged copper]

hang on, do the wings have a new sprite?

[dull heart]

using Wings, Moon Walkers, or Moon Boots + Wings is

[twin roost]

I appriciate the BR changes but the Void Dragon I think keeps showing me God's face in purple.

[fathom girder]

are you using the godslayer bullets

[twin roost]

Yeah, are they broken?

[dull heart]

yeah

[tribal isle]

Is warbanner gonna get reworked once true melee is dead

[dull heart]

fixed in 2.1.1 when it releases

[mellow spade]

Vega rework is a lot of fun btw

[dull heart]

GSSlugs break with high bullet wepaon

[twin roost]

Sad, thanks.
Boss Rush changes are appriciated.

Overall, banger update and a huge step towards this mod being peak cinema.

[mellow spade]

I love the unique take on stealth strikes

[tribal isle]

Appreciated*

[lyric trellis]

? It already got reworked

[tribal isle]

It did? I haven’t seen

[dusk bronze]

speaking of bugs, burrower counts as 11 enemies on the radar

[rugged gale]

so far these fights have been way too easy

[dull heart]

radar grahh

[dusk bronze]

and still spawns in the jungle

[rugged gale]

im still in pre-HM but

[dull heart]

thats fine idc

jungle burrower can burrow oh well

[dusk bronze]

[twin roost]

I'm going to hurt you.

[rugged gale]

not even a single death to bosses besides getting jumped by eye before i was ready

[icy stump]

Hunter Potion in Burrower only lights the head

[mellow spade]

is there any possiblity of the seasonal event items being removed before distortion happens
like as an intermediate solution to the drag that is post-DoG events

[dull heart]

it apepars

kalei is STILL insane

[mellow spade]

maybe make them drop from DoG directly or something

[dusk bronze]

whar
that's like the opposite of the radar thing

[mellow spade]

2:11 polter is kinda crazy

[dull heart]

2:34 prov

also crazy

[dusk bronze]

1:43 cv

[mellow spade]

Providence I feel like it's easy to get 2:30 times on

I think I got around 2 minutes with profaned partisan or something

[dull heart]

if something is getting 2:30 prov in testing gear that's crazy

well

not super insane but her time is 4:00

so very nerf worthy

[mellow spade]

ah I see

please don't nerf partisan post-ML rogue is already really weak and only has like 4 good weapons

[fathom girder]

You saw my freakout over teslastaff chaos stone arc flash deleting providence, right

[unique warren]

Legion of Celestial feels a bit boring still, tbh. It was just a resprite right?

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[unique warren]

Ah, yeah that adds up

[astral vapor]

wait they're killing true melee ?

[fathom girder]

No

Well, kinda
There's gonna be a new damage type called "heroic" according to the devs from many months ago

[shut ridge]

😭

[fathom girder]

Warbanner already got reworked to be all class btw- idk when true melee will be moved over if it that's still in the plans

[rugged gale]

another?

[unique warren]

Yeah like, closer = more damage is not exclusive to true melee lol

[fathom girder]

sir thorium has three custom classes, calamity can have two

[barren estuary]

have they removed the brim seeker summon? i cant belive i have not dropped it yet after defeating the elemental 6 times

[radiant sparrow]

No

[urban cloak]

won't be a damage type

[barren estuary]

time to farm more i guess

[fathom girder]

Oh really now

[dusk bronze]

true melee weapons will do melee damage
weapons from any class that struggle on bosses will gain heroic damage, which increases damage to bosses

[worn fulcrum]

hm
i shizo or for some reason killing perforator gave me new acc slot?(not master)

[fathom girder]

whups, I had it a bit wrong then sorry

[unique warren]

Can you rephrase this

[urban cloak]

it's like a modifier tacked on to a weapon of any damage type and that indicates whether it should get a damage boost against bosses

[unique warren]

I just don’t quite follow

[rugged gale]

not a sir, but also more damage types is just bloat imo

oh thats fine then

[fathom girder]

I was wrong anyway, it's just a vs boss modifier yeah lul

[astral vapor]

oh, kind of like how certain bosses take less damage from certain weapons, but reversed?

[urban cloak]

mhm

[rugged gale]

now that's a fun addition

[urban cloak]

it'll be thrown onto weapons that struggle against bosses due to things like decreased range, hence why all true melee weapons will get it

[dusk bronze]

according to plans: the damage type of true melee is being removed, all melee weapons will just do melee damage

a modifier to weapons from any class called heroic damage is being added, which will apply to any weapon that struggles against bosses, including most current true melee weapons

[unique warren]

Not sure how I feel about that… scratch that, not a fan, but alright

[rugged gale]

i do feel like the "true melee hits" on certain weapons and buffs is good though

[urban cloak]

you'll get a proper feel for it once it's implemented ig 🤷

[hybrid niche]

yo is the brainstorm update out 👀 my calamity aint updatin

[main estuary]

yeah

[jagged copper]

suddenly all F tier weapons shoot up to S tier

[worn fulcrum]

oh, nvm, for some reason i activated expert and not infernum then was going back from death(bc some ppl said "all bosses ai was tweaked, don't play infernum" i now require to kill boss in infernum and death to progress)

[hybrid niche]

weird

[unique warren]

Tbf I just fundamentally disagree with current true melee design in this mod period, even after this update

Treats them as smth special rather than just melee weapons that trade range for damage

[urban cloak]

verify the integrity of tmod's files in your steam library and reopen it to see if it auto updates

[worn fulcrum]

also
what is. . . perforators ai in death, they fells. . . weak?
it was changed a little, right?

[rose laurel]

The thing is that True Melee is not special

It shouldn't be special

[hybrid niche]

still didnt work

[urban cloak]

unsub and resub to calamity on the steam workshop then

[rose laurel]

It's just close ranged gameplay, which should, by all means, be entirely reasonable to do

[unique warren]

Yeah, and shouldn’t necessitate a gigantic increase in DPS

[rose laurel]

True Melee shouldn't be some kind of arcane playstyle that only the masters of the game can utilize

[dusk bronze]

who said gigantic

[rose laurel]

It's why Heroic Damage is in development limbo atm

[unique warren]

Like it would require giving the weapon higher than average DPS but the DPS different currently is like really big actually

[dusk bronze]

heroic damage would only apply to bosses

not enemies

[rose laurel]

Ideally, Heroic Damage won't need to exist, because Bosses allow for consistent and engaging close ranged gameplay which makes them viable

[unique warren]

I think that stems from an issue of true melee having little variety, almost all of em are 10 tiles or less until very late game when that is not how it is in vanilla, at least not entirely

[rose laurel]

It's more about Boss design than anything

[unique warren]

That too, I think at the end of the day if bosses are designed around true melee being challenging, but reasonable, heroic damage would not be unneeded

[barren creek]

is the hellwing staff new?

[dusk bronze]

no

[barren creek]

kinda op no?

[dusk bronze]

idk

[fierce nebula]

1.1.4 💀

[quiet spade]

is this weapon good as summoner with the new update?

the visuals are amazing

[frail sky]

so what do the burrowers do? I see they reveal ore nearby but do they do anything else? do they drop anything?

[exotic axle]

That’s my little guy, my little guy in calamity mod 💗

[upbeat finch]

Can i use infernum mod with the new update of calamity?

[radiant sparrow]

Is any of the dreadon arsenal for summoner worth using?

[rugged gale]

they're a renewable source of plating and circuitry

[quiet spade]

im using the aqueous hunter drone and its pretty good ngl

[steep path]

THAT'S vcmm? holy shit I gotta make sure I keep this mod on for my upcoming playthrough....

[icy stump]

Met by the Stars (Aether's theme) was made by Forge

It's uploaded in his YT channel

[urban cloak]

you can kill em for plating and circuitry if you'd like but they exist primarily for ambience

[rotund jackal]

looking back at it

why was so many random items removed from the mod

[radiant sparrow]

I'm afraid I'm too far progressed to use the cute robo prawn

[radiant sparrow]

I love ambience mobs

[mystic eagle]

You practically mentioned the reason for it

[main estuary]

some of the items were either related to fabsol, pointless item bloat, etc.

[radiant sparrow]

Gives life to the world

[rotund jackal]

like did the developers throw darts at a board and say, "lets remove... iridiescent excalibur this update"

[quiet spade]

oh ok

mb

[frail sky]

i see

[rotund jackal]

MY A.R.B WAS BEAUTIFUL THANK YOU VERY MUCH

[urban cloak]

deemed unnecessary to be kept in the mod or some other reason

[main estuary]

huh

[mystic eagle]

Here you go https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Orderbringer

[radiant sparrow]

Why are you apologising????

[rotund jackal]

orderbringer isnt even close to the in depth beam effects that my goat excalibur had

[mystic eagle]

Have you looked at the page

[mellow spade]

wait... would this stack with Moonshine

[mystic eagle]

Raesh Bloodflare Core!?

[fathom girder]

Does the luxor's new projectiles scale with the weapon again, or is it still a predominantly prehm accessory

[mellow spade]

it's a fabsol item so it got axed

[thorny cradle]

yo why is my infernum brain of cthulu bugged???

[mystic eagle]

Raesh got buffed no way

[fathom girder]

The brainstorm BoC rework messed with some AI stuff, just fight it without infernum ig

brainstorm boc is a banger anyway you should be fighting that version

[thorny cradle]

so do i just turn on death mode or shm

[native thistle]

New BoC is a banger

[thorny cradle]

and what melee do yall recommend

[lyric trellis]

Basher

[icy stump]

Basher

[fathom girder]

basher def

[modest grove]

Wait I’m confused the highest difficulty I see is death mode? I thought there was higher now?

[thorny cradle]

okok

[fathom girder]

Malice is higher but it's on legendary worlds only iirc

[native thistle]

Death was always the highest technically

[proud ice]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Hadopelagic_Echo
what was the reason of removing this weapon?

[icy stump]

Crabulon vs Basher is a fun fight

[modest grove]

What is legendary worlds?

[fathom girder]

QUESTIONNNNn what was that endgame accessory that grants all attacks that insane debuff again, I forgot entirely what it was

Doze was hyped for it and I've forgotten what it was entirely lmao

[icy stump]

For the worthy seed + master mode iirc

[modest grove]

What does that seed do?

[native thistle]

The one the triples debuff damage, right?

[unique warren]

Good question tbh

[main estuary]

are there any other new rogue weapons i should try getting aside from spore knife (i already have the crystalline)

[grim pecan]

amalgam

[dull heart]

yes

[thorny cradle]

i got absolutely fucked

[icy stump]

You can check the wiki, it explains better than me

[unique warren]

Antlion Skewer

[main estuary]

okay

[fathom girder]

AMALGAM thank you sunny

[dull heart]

amalgam + voidfrost mmm

[fathom girder]

I'll try to remember to do that for this run I PROMISE lmao

[main estuary]

finna get 3tapped by everything on death

[unique warren]

Man I wanted to play true melee so bad but now I know I won’t be able to do boss rush without fuckass invisible bosses ❤️

Which is lame cause Earth is like the coolest reworked weapon y’all added by a lot

[fathom girder]

also doze or whoever, is luxor's gift a full run type accessory now, or is it still a prehm only thing

[lyric trellis]

Use Grand Dad

[unique warren]

…for boss rush?

[fathom girder]

I wanted to know if the projectiles are like. useful past the first few prehm bosses lol

[trail mirage]

Has anyone else had no mobs at all spawn in the second layer of the aybss?

[lyric trellis]

It works

[zealous gyro]

#NERFTHESCARLETDEVIL

[unique warren]

that cannot be a good sign

[trail mirage]

Even with zerg and bloody marys

[fathom girder]

Can you really launch the boss rush bosses that's awesome

[unique warren]

Wasn’t it literally nerfed (albeit very minutely)

[zealous gyro]

i was just doing 500k damage per second in boss rush 💔

[main estuary]

oh yeah what is the skewers drop rate

[unique warren]

5%

So pretty easy for such a common enemy

[main estuary]

except for the part where im super fragile

[native thistle]

Wiki isn't fully updated boowomp

[unique warren]

Uhhh idk ball what’s regular boss rush damage?

[thorny cradle]

bro how tf do i beat brain💔💔💔

[zealous gyro]

Like 5x less than that

[mellow spade]

Yharon fun as always but I feel like Eclipse's Fall was nerfed :(

[zealous gyro]

rogue stealth is just busted build

[woeful yarrow]

Realize
Calamity bossbar is the same as mgs rev
Also the same as the default cal difficultly

[unique warren]

And how long does it take to charge up a stealth strike

[mellow spade]

dear god

[tropic jolt]

😭

[woeful yarrow]

Deltarune chapter 5 tomorrow

[mellow spade]

if only

[visual kernel]

is true melee any good in multiplayer

[zealous gyro]

depends on the build but for perspective, the base with no upgrades is 2 or so seconds of standing still with no silent reforges or upgrades to stealth regen

[cunning sequoia]

ssograve

[tropic jolt]

watch what happens when I download a mod that I know nothing about!

[fierce hearth]

Anyone know any way to deal with minions wandering offscreen and never coming back?

[tropic jolt]

🧊

[woeful yarrow]

I saw some leaks about it by a Japanese tester

[mellow spade]

that sounds too good to be true

[fierce hearth]

Faster minions seem to do it more often, it made the herring staff basically useless

[mellow spade]

it's just the ⁨winter is coming⁩ secret seed in 1.4.5

[unique warren]

Standing still

Just tell me how long it takes with the build you use while moving

[icy stump]

Blizzard tomorrow is real

[mellow spade]

would amidias have the freedom motif

[cunning sequoia]

no

amidias is a chapter boss

[tropic jolt]

amidias is the knight

[mellow spade]

calamitas definitely would, though

[verbal bough]

Where do you find those really cool new wings that were featured in the teaser for the orderbringer rework?

[icy stump]

Xyk's Blessing, dropped by Gem Crawlers

[fathom girder]

It's xyk's dev "set", you get it as a rare drop from the little gem crawlers

[verbal bough]

Ah thanks

[main estuary]

what if im bald

do i just have a portable sun on my head

[icy stump]

For eyebrows?

[silver shuttle]

Is it just me or is calamity a good deal easier than it was last update

At least on revengance

[verbal bough]

Before I go grinding for them, can the armor part of it be disabled or overriden by vanity items?

[still cobalt]

I dont think

[icy stump]

I'm not sure

[verbal bough]

Therefore you aint

[verbal bough]

Ok

[radiant snow]

be less bald

[hardy scaffold]

after the new nerf, which is better old lord or oathsword

[whole bough]

Hey guys

[hardy scaffold]

hi

[still cobalt]

Use both at once

[whole bough]

Angler dont drop the Golden hood anymore?

[hardy scaffold]

wdym

[whole bough]

I made a trasher kill him

[still cobalt]

Throw the oathswordninto some enemies then hit it with old lords

[hardy scaffold]

ok

[tribal isle]

Which update is gonna be tomorrow if sso is not guaranteed to be the next one

[hardy scaffold]

does the throwing thing of oathsword debuff enemy or?

[untold anchor]

doesnt daytime empress drop terraprisma anymore?

[icy stump]

No, he doesn't

[steep thunder]

can a metal detector help with finding Ancient Treasure Chests can't seem to find any in my world

[cunning sequoia]

she does

nighttime empress no longer does

[cunning sequoia]

FUNKY KONG?!

[untold anchor]

Weird... Fought her 3 times now, but got no terraprisma drop

[mystic eagle]

Brainstorm out now with new funky mode!

[cunning sequoia]

you have to start and end the fight during the same day

[untold anchor]

I did though 😭

[tropic jolt]

is funky mode harder than malice mode

[cunning sequoia]

again, DAYTIME empress drops it, not nighttime

[untold anchor]

I know... and I did fight her full daytime

[cunning sequoia]

ok just making sure

[verbal bough]

[cunning sequoia]

mm might be a bug then?

[icy stump]

I'm not sure, but you can use Spelunker Potions

[cunning sequoia]

look through #1052323733961977947 and see if anyone else had the issue

[untold anchor]

I'll make a post later about it if I don't find one

[zealous gyro]

around the same as base speeds

[unique warren]

Hmmm I see

I would do actual boss testing cause idk about 5x dps

[dusky ice]

What's the best build for this?

[mellow spade]

I may be in the minority here, but I like Exo Mechs a lot
Feels like Ares is more of a threat in 2.1 now but maybe that's just placebo

[zealous gyro]

was doing like 500k dps

[mellow spade]

Time to bring out a post-mech 1 weapon for scal

[zealous gyro]

with a minmax build

[vestal osprey]

Calamity nerfing defence all over the place

[unique warren]

Ok uh do a full run of it with stealth scarlet devil vs spam Nanoblack reaper

[white nexus]

Any word of a patch for Brainstorm?

Summoner’s unplayably broken atm, and I’m waiting for a patch before I continue playing.

[zealous gyro]

Whats broken about summoner?

[white nexus]

Everything.

[zealous gyro]

my friends doing summoner in our playthrough and also beat boss run by himself with summoner so idk whats broken about it

[distant raft]

wait untilyou hear about mage

[fathom girder]

I like this line of weapons that are just "big ass sword that hits like a truck"

[distant raft]

if you think summoner butchers shit, you aint ready for mage

[fathom girder]

sub minute providence kill be like

[mellow spade]

let's go melt scal

[zealous gyro]

Mage is so gooddd

[fathom girder]

And then rogue's in the corner with blazing star for some reason

[white nexus]

Current Summoner bugs:

• Certain minions don’t attack until they’re intercepted by an enemy.

• Minions randomly can’t be removed.

• Minions vanish randomly.

There’s at least 3 bug reports open about summoner right now, lol

[unique warren]

And it’s only a little big 🥀

[fathom girder]

It's big ENOUGH

[unique warren]

Yeah but it’s nothin crazy lol

[zealous gyro]

those aint necessarily unplayable broken

[light mango]

How do you get the new enchanted sword summon?

[distant raft]

gold chests

[white nexus]

My minions aren’t attacking until I maneuver their hitbox into the enemy’s.

It’s like trying to use an offensive ball and chain, lol

[blissful axle]

Why is the ranger sunken sea draedon weapon so boring compared to the others

[amber egret]

lmao

im so happy some items in the update somehow obliterate bosses

[mellow spade]

perfect timing