calamity-update-talk

[ivory lark]

and the desert scourge is a creature adapted to the desert which hasn't caused ecosystem collapse and it's adapting after a mass extinction event..?

[blazing field]

iT'S LITERALLY JUST

Caps lock

[limpid grail]

Also this is literally incorrect

[hoary merlin]

I think he got some explanation for me then

[blazing field]

It's literally juts palceholder gores

[limpid grail]

We have gone over this in dev

[cunning sequoia]

dont scream at me :<

[tropic jolt]

do you think Yharim uses qol mods too

[limpid grail]

Please quit talking about this stuff. Please.

[cunning sequoia]

oh

[unique warren]

We are SO up

[tawny geyser]

yharims a… bad guy?

[cunning sequoia]

that seems silly idk

[ivory lark]

yharim literally doesn't force you to do anything 😭

[hidden belfry]

10 Billion QoL mods

[wary crest]

Is yharim a magic storage enjoyer

[mighty geyser]

thats not what grooming is???

[blazing field]

It's not about forcing

He's not forcing

He's manipulating

[tropic jolt]

auric storage

[halcyon seal]

OH FUCK HES PULLING OUT THE INF BUFF ITEMS

[cunning sequoia]

"oh yeah deus is saved" the bloodied body parts on the floor

[ivory lark]

he gives you propaganda but you are agent to Not Listen

[blazing field]

Or trying to do so, anyways

[pine moat]

he uses fargo mutant and quality of terraria

[ivory lark]

you are Not Vulnerable

[earnest jewel]

I did say grooming, not strongarming.

[unique warren]

He's a manipulative conniving dictator!!!

[blazing field]

Yeah but it dosen't change that he still is tryng to manipulate you

[halcyon seal]

Which bosses would and wouldn’t use qol mods

[blazing field]

Nobody is saying "Yharim made me do this" undertale chara style

But he is objectively trying to get oyu to do things

[wary crest]

I mean I could start saying that

[earnest jewel]

Draedon would. Anything to win.

[main estuary]

pre-brainstorm brain 100% uses them

[tropic jolt]

why did Yharim make me kill those endangered animals

[blazing field]

Why would y harim make me do this?

[ivory lark]

manipulation is a better term for it, manipulation and grooming are not equivalent terms. yharim has groomed calamitas and she was not agent in the situation, You, the player, are

[limpid grail]

nobody is invulerable to propaganda

[cunning sequoia]

draedon would optimize the shit out of the game

[earnest jewel]

Yharim would say he never does but then he's found to have been using them in his speedruns.

[unique warren]

Correction, Draedon would make his own QoL mods

[tropic jolt]

draedon uses wing slot boot slot and shield slot

[jagged copper]

something has gone very wrong and I think it's because of a bug in the abyss

[hidden belfry]

I'm blaming Yharim for trapping all my NPC is hell

[balmy saddle]

so uhh until which boss do you guys think the new transformer is viable? this thing is so cool

[blazing field]

Yeah that's a valid statement, i wouldn't call the terrarian being groomed

[limpid grail]

Yeah

[mighty geyser]

post brainstorm brain uses them even harder

[sick bloom]

how could yharim make me do this

[blazing field]

But it's definitely a attempt at manipulation

[halcyon seal]

Why did Yharim make me drain the abyss

[tropic jolt]

Calamitas used prismas pristine potions for mana regen

[dusk bronze]

i used it until like post plant i think

[ivory lark]

yharim is attempting to manipulate you, yes

[hoary merlin]

new lore dropped, this guy love Garden

[tawny geyser]

If i started working for yharim would I get healthcare benefits and pizza parties?

[ivory lark]

no lol

[earnest jewel]

Yes.

[jagged copper]

guys what do I do, idk how to stop the sea from draining

[blazing field]

-# Also dosen't the desert scourge literally try eating you

[limpid grail]

Oh I thought that message was about Calamitas

either way

[blazing field]

-# isn't it an active predator

[tawny geyser]

Dental coverage?

[hidden belfry]

Easiest option to reject manipulation is just delete calamity mod 😭

[mighty geyser]

you used to but hes broke now

[dusk bronze]

didn't he treat his soldiers super well

[main estuary]

why is your sea draining

[limpid grail]

You're not nessesarily a "megalomaniac", no

[tropic jolt]

you would get your soul used to power a cool robot or something

[unique warren]

I swear it doesn't spawn naturally...?

[halcyon seal]

Calamitas used Prismas but Ilmeris used alchlite. This is why Calamitas killed them all

[limpid grail]

indeed

[blazing field]

Not right now i mean

[ivory lark]

you can be treated by a field medic 👍

[blazing field]

Most bosses don't spawn naturally

[tropic jolt]

deserved

[unique warren]

I see

[jagged copper]

that's what I want to know, all I did was go to the abyss, mine scoria ore, went back to the sea and this has happened

[balmy saddle]

any thoughts about the black flash ring? feel like the magic one might be a lil overtuned

[ivory lark]

tells me to know what i'm talking about before i say it
does not triage the situation

[limpid grail]

Yes becuase I misread

[tawny geyser]

oohhh i DO like coool robots hmmm

[dusk bronze]

i haven't used either upgrade yet

[hoary merlin]

The nurse is kinda useless in calamity

[jagged copper]

I did notice that in the abyss, air pockets were failing to fill up

[blazing field]

I think Yharim probably would give his soldiers healthcare benefits

idk about free pizza parties though

[limpid grail]

I came here imemdiatly right after I woke up becuase I got told YOU leaked non-public lore so i came to see what's going on

[blazing field]

will have to get back to you on that one

[limpid grail]

[ivory lark]

wut non-public lore

[hidden belfry]

It's gonna be as thin as paper dawg

[blazing field]

consume hte auric pizza

[limpid grail]

all i know is that it was something about xeroc

either way

[tawny geyser]

I don’t care what yharim does aslong as I get good dental coverage and a veterans discount

[mighty geyser]

the xeroc stuff that the first reaction to was literally "holy leak" 😭

[unique warren]

Oh yeah uh

[limpid grail]

i really really wish people stopped doing this

[unique warren]

Yeah that I remember that

[hoary merlin]

I think not, they probably won't even eat chicken

[limpid grail]

i am so sick of other devs doing this stuff

[hidden belfry]

Who's XEROC dawg, seems like a graphics card made by Nvidia

[halcyon seal]

Heartwarming: Yharim’s faithful companion Draedon dumps thousands of gallons of Free Green Foods in the ocean, feeding the wildlife so heavily they die of joy ❤️

[limpid grail]

espeically with major stuff

[ivory lark]

talking about the mod's lore..? saying xeroc is capable of killing distortion creatures?

[agile latch]

The lore leak alarm⏰

[limpid grail]

indeed

[ivory lark]

lore leak. report it
police.com

[agile latch]

Big Lore is watching

[earnest jewel]

Triangle, no!

[tawny geyser]

I am also in this episode

[halcyon seal]

The guy you talk to in boss rush

[mighty geyser]

xeroc kinda went into the distortion and solo'd like everything in sight though (in current lore) so there's nothing to really watch

[balmy saddle]

1060 gtx ascended after being sold again

[main estuary]

bro is not james wilson

[limpid grail]

awesome

thanks for the major spoilers man

i sure do love my characters jsut fucking

[ivory lark]

what is the spoiler there

[limpid grail]

having this shit done

[mighty geyser]

[blazing field]

Xeroc being in the distortion is not public information, until recently it was only a hypothesis at best

[agile latch]

That xeroc can go in the distortion and kill stuff there? Isnt that the basis of his character

[pine moat]

i wanna do another calamity run. tried summoner and rogue, what should i go for next? melee?

[blazing field]

The same with Xeroc being in the sky and/or sun

[ivory lark]

^

[agile latch]

( and he didnt kill evertthing there anyway )

[hidden belfry]

I wonder if Calamitas knows anything about the dryad...

[dusk bronze]

not yet

[agile latch]

Its like saying yharon is allied with yharim and can spit fire

[ivory lark]

he LITERALLY shows you his insignia in the sky in boss rush!!! do you think he is a projector

[unique warren]

They said he did not could

[tawny geyser]

Spoiler
Xeroc can do a REALLY cool kickflip

[dusk bronze]

[pseudo vector]

can y'all not argue publicly please that would be very cool thank you

[main estuary]

mage got quite a few weapon reworks
you should probably try it

[blazing field]

I mean yeah it could just be a magic projection from somewhere esle

[hoary merlin]

that what the monk usually do

[blazing field]

It's not out of question

[mighty geyser]

hes literally the god of light

[limpid grail]

Jasper is the one who brought it to public, thank you

[agile latch]

If he could you would not have noxus, DoG and signus as bosses

[limpid grail]

I ahev a right to defend myself here

[unique warren]

I agree with this!!!

[pseudo vector]

this could have very easily been settled in dms

[pine moat]

ah okay thanks. any cool accesories i should look out for?

[ivory lark]

You are the one who antagonized me here!!!

[pseudo vector]

not in the public eye

[halcyon seal]

Xeroc kills people for fun

[agile latch]

True

[limpid grail]

You're continuing eysterday's argument here

[tawny geyser]

Me 2

[agile latch]

Potential god🦐

[limpid grail]

you stopped tlaking abotu it and dev lore and started spouting misinformation and leaks here

[sick bloom]

kinda just assumed it was some wicked light magic shit

[ivory lark]

🙄 🙄

potential god

[pseudo vector]

cei and jasper, please take this to dms

like actually

please

[ivory lark]

not my problem

[main estuary]

there's like a hardmode band for magic weapons
it creates a flash

[agile latch]

Its pre hm

[pine moat]

got it. thanks again!

[blazing field]

Yeah this probably should be taken elsewhere

[agile latch]

But there is a hardmode upgrade planned

Unless im thinking of a diferent acc

[grave geyser]

Clicking on this channel and not seeing the second part of this at first

[dusk bronze]

no ur right

[main estuary]

im talking about the black glass band and it's mage upgrade

[balmy saddle]

black glass band upgrade, batholith band

[hidden belfry]

Oh shit, developers are arguing chat, better screenshot every message

[tropic jolt]

[inland bridge]

can someone explain why cant i craft the hallowed repeater pls ?

[young notch]

Cut it out

[hidden belfry]

I'm kidding 😢

[earnest jewel]

Do you have the ingredients?

[main estuary]

do you have enough bars and a mythril/orichalcum anvil?

[inland bridge]

yes i do for both

[hidden belfry]

I don't even think I have enough memory to store a single screenshot anymore

[inland bridge]

got 50 ingot and every anvils

[agile latch]

Yea pre hm

[dusk bronze]

concerning

[tawny geyser]

[agile latch]

Cooked

[main estuary]

i thought the batholith bangle or whatever it was called was hardmode

[pseudo vector]

literally zero reason to do this, weird as fuck honestly

[hidden belfry]

I can see why

[agile latch]

Pre hm, post evils 1

[proper owl]

Is the new update optimized? Devourer of gods looks so amazing i doubt if anything mid could run it perfectly

[agile latch]

Uses granite and scales/ tissue

Im p sure

There will be a chlorofite/hallowed upgrade of the bangles tho

[dusk bronze]

dog is very optimized

[main estuary]

this is what i get for playing the update right before yharon 😔

[agile latch]

Runs better than before i think

No longer lag walls

[hidden belfry]

Youch

[unique warren]

Mannnnn I really hope y'all have some good plans for true melee going forward cause it's still so weirdly designed

[balmy saddle]

yay, really wanted something like this, but when will it come out? in next big update or just as a patch?

[halcyon seal]

True melee is either useless or it kills the boss in 30 seconds and there is no in between

[inland bridge]

so no explaination for the hallowed repeater ?

[unique warren]

Ok so actually true

[main estuary]

what are your mods?

[proper owl]

Yeah thats so nice, no one will miss the grid lag spikes

[agile latch]

Possibly next update

[main estuary]

because im pretty sure it's only supposed to require hallowed bars

[hoary merlin]

Hey what is the rogue class inspired from anyway?

[tidal wigeon]

Who's xeroc

[inland bridge]

got plenty like cal vanities calhaul (ik its shit)

[desert garnet]

thrower

[hidden belfry]

Microwave

[dusk bronze]

john sun

[main estuary]

i blame calhaul then

[unique warren]

Idk why it can't just be a good option that has a decent bit more DPS than regular melee while being a decent but more challenging

[tidal wigeon]

Only right answer

[earnest jewel]

Thrower.

[balmy saddle]

nvidia video card (gtx 1060 ti to be specific)

[main estuary]

get recipe browser and show the recipe (something must've changed it)

[earnest jewel]

El Dio Uno.

[hoary merlin]

I kinda get the random bullshit go, but at least they are gonna have the inspiration from some where, some game else?

[grave geyser]

Nah

[desert garnet]

thrower was removed in vanilla and they wanted it back

[unique warren]

Instead it's like, way harder with way more DPS and idk that's just not how True Melee feels in Vanilla, as flawed as Vanilla True Melee is

[earnest jewel]

It's thrower.

[hidden belfry]

I was gonna say ninjas because uhm... Stealth and throwing, but thrower works too

[hoary merlin]

guess that was it then

[halcyon seal]

Literally is thrower, before it got cannibalized by Ranger

[earnest jewel]

Saying that as if thrower was anything other than diet ranger.

[hidden belfry]

Starved Ranger

[grave geyser]

A lot of true melees either have a ranged option you can earn (Sahara, Galileo), have a charge attack (hellkite) or have enough reach that you can play fairly safely

[halcyon seal]

I LIKE BONE JAVELINS OK

[agile latch]

Potential god

[main estuary]

sahara slicers ❤️

[agile latch]

The guy that appears behind boss rush

[unique warren]

It really depends, stuff like... Lionheart is kinda horseshit imho

[dusk bronze]

[hoary merlin]

because I saw many item and style got inspired from another stuff, so rogue class might be too, I mean yeah thrower is an obvious reference

[stone fiber]

Why do I feel like Nightwither's new sprite is a Soul Eater reference?

[hidden belfry]

I thought that was just god

[young notch]

He might as well be

[grave geyser]

Lion heart is very strong within its range

[hidden belfry]

John calamity

[grave geyser]

And it’s shield helps it at playing that agressive

[unique warren]

Every True Melee weapon is but it's like 7 tile range at best, that's not reasonable

[dusk bronze]

calamity doesn't have one omnipotent God
it's more like the greek pantheon

[woeful depot]

is rubico prime effective against goliath?

[agile latch]

I mean he is the closest cal has to a full on god, but he also is just a guy with a auric soul

John calamity "potential god"

[grave geyser]

It is when your victims are old duke (rest phases) and dog (worm)

[hoary merlin]

quite bizarre

[agile latch]

0 distortion creatures slain
0 goals acomplished
7 minutes of dialogue in boss rush

[unique warren]

Is this taking into account ram dashes or not

[grave geyser]

Doesn’t need to for dog although they help at not dying

[mellow spade]

Is it just me or is Vampiric Talisman really strong now

[wary crest]

Is he even referenced much before boss rush

[agile latch]

No

[unique warren]

Yeah see I cannot see how that works

[hidden belfry]

No

[grave geyser]

You can just target body segments with it since it’s damage is so high

[dusk bronze]

just in prelude and requiem

[wary crest]

So he just shows up, acts all cryptic, gives you a rock, and dips

[hoary merlin]

xeron is a fraud mark my words

[tawny geyser]

I am john calamity

[agile latch]

Trully

Fraudwatch ⏰

Maintaining the agenda

[dusk bronze]

yeah exactly

[earnest jewel]

Gets namedropped once.

[unique warren]

I think cal True Melee just has an issue of having only uber super crazy close range true melee weapons in the post-ML stage rather than also having moderate range options like vanilla does (Gungnir, True Excalibur)

[agile latch]

Yea after the player did the stuff he should do

I mean there has been discussions of making him not potential god but that will be in the future

Rn he is on fraud watch

[unique warren]

This is only ever really broken when you get Murasama

[wary crest]

Xeroc redemption arc in 2032

[mellow spade]

Did lifesteal get buffed like crazy? I feel invincible

[hidden belfry]

Xeroc looking down like "hey, they killed— oh shit they killed all of them"

[grave geyser]

Galileo gladius

[unique warren]

I actually did not know that was true melee now, ig I should check it out

[grave geyser]

It’s only tm assuming no other starburst gear

[hidden belfry]

Galileo sounds so fantastical, your telling me someone was called GALILEO GALILEI

[unique warren]

Hmmmmmmmm

[grave geyser]

It’s basically a super Sahara slicer

[unique warren]

Isn't that also super close range

[grave geyser]

Yes but you have a right click that can build up ranged attacks

[hoary merlin]

no kidding that rock would be play as an important major role for a key to open to something, or fight another boss in the future calamity's update

[unique warren]

Hmmm ok...

[hidden belfry]

Rock worm

[hoary merlin]

enough with the worm

[unique warren]

I just think that True Melee in cal lacks range variety like even Vanilla does

[dense tulip]

Burrower scared the crap out of me

[unique warren]

I don't believe cal adds a true melee spear with more range than true exclalibur period

[grave geyser]

Or well I guess to be more specific
Left click is true melee and builds up starbursts
Right click consumes starbursts for either a Sahara esc ranged attack or a tether dash with some iframes

[hidden belfry]

Melee is either True Melee, or Ranger but sword

[hoary merlin]

she chill

[tawny geyser]

Eidolon wyrm is the strongest cuz he is cool awesome sauce

[dense tulip]

True but I was so confused seeing a mechanical worm suddenly appear.

[unique warren]

Eh, a lot of melee weapons are way better up close, like pre-hm boomerangs, at least in vanilla

[inland bridge]

ty so much

[fathom girder]

Any tesla's amulet truthers here rn

[hoary merlin]

I wish they were common though, kinda helpful to track a rare ore or something

[deep bough]

they changed the recipes because the weapons are better

[hoary merlin]

gem to be specific

[dense tulip]

I mean, are they useful for anything?

[inland bridge]

but which mod did this ? base cal ?

[deep bough]

overhaul

[stone fiber]

Like, the new icon kind of looks like the moon from the background of that manga

[hoary merlin]

show you where the ore are

[stone fiber]

[unique warren]

Point is, I do not like True Melee cal's mindset of "I have to be damn near on top of the boss but it's worth cause I do stupid damage" when it could be "I am quite close to the boss and do moderately higher damage than any long ranged weapons"

[deep bough]

i swear everyone who says overhaul sucks has not tested it themselves and only look at that one pinned message from a year ago

[main estuary]

i've played it before
skeletron prime hit me with a debuff that does like a lot of dps

[tropic jolt]

[main estuary]

ugly sprite too
green eyes on that mf

[hidden belfry]

Holy shit it's Ozzavyer

[fathom girder]

Are you really still on this

[hoary merlin]

already gave the idea of how the npc portrait should have look

[stone fiber]

Probably because it's true, no?

[granite sapphire]

i have an addiction, last night i dreamt about playing the update

[hidden belfry]

Downloading that mod in an instant

[deep bough]

so u tested it?

[unique warren]

Yeah I wanna find someone better to talk about it with than the people I talked about it with last night

[hoary merlin]

the overhaul mode is kinda unbalance

[distant raft]

downloading malware isnt a good idea i think

[fathom girder]

"I need more yesmen" 🔥

[hidden belfry]

Okay nevermind

[fathom girder]

Overhaul sucks and ruins a lot of calamity, don't do it lol

[hoary merlin]

indeed

[unique warren]

Nah I just want someone who will engage in a conversation instead of nomen

[hidden belfry]

Both answers to my question are either Malware or Unbalanced

[young notch]

That- that doesn’t really look great

[mellow spade]

ready and waiting to take my extremely powerful lifesteal build and use it on a boss that disables lifesteal

maybe I shouldn't use vampiric talisman on ML, actually

[main estuary]

it looks cool but could be much better

[young notch]

It’s just not Calamitas

[hoary merlin]

add a few more pixels and it would turn out just like the vanilla

[fathom girder]

betcha the reason you're immediately shut down is because your idea encases what melee should be in general, with true melee being the up in your face niche because that's always what it's been

[mellow spade]

obligatory

[stone fiber]

Yes

[granite sapphire]

it looks choppy and for scal quite inaccurate, shes a tired and isolated witch sealed away for years and just nearly beaten to death

[fathom girder]

Like people already know this usually

[unique warren]

Not really actually, I have a very specific vision in mind for what melee should be that is not the same as my vision for true melee

[deep bough]

no way i just turned it off and my character and world arent bricked, holy moly guys

[hoary merlin]

the reload ammo mechanic killing me

[granite sapphire]

i feel like melee should be less magical swords and fake melee attacks should be more like throwing the sword like the oathsword rework or something, but i guess they did that for rogue

[stone fiber]

It's still a very specific vision though

[mellow spade]

I feel like Vampiric Talisman is way overtuned ngl

[unique warren]

Yea ofc and it's fun to talk about without getting shut down idk

[mellow spade]

Like this is too much lifesteal

[stone fiber]

[granite sapphire]

play the lottery, thats some luck

[main estuary]

it'll break any calhaul tiles and items however

[mighty geyser]

?

[deep bough]

literally with every mod?

[main estuary]

don't mine or place unloaded tiles
they'll crash your game

i found this out when i tried to mine a removed calamity tile

[mellow spade]

Okay yeah this is absurd

[hoary merlin]

i think it depend

[deep bough]

just mined some and it didnt crash

[mellow spade]

This accessory needs a nerf yesterday

[fierce nebula]

It didn’t happen to me, therefore it doesn’t happen

[granite sapphire]

yeah unloaded tiles shouldn't do that...
i did that to the relic for astrageldon after turning off catalyst

[deep bough]

im saying that its blown out of proportion by self-righteous people

[main estuary]

well it happened when i mined one of the removed sunken sea tiles

[unique warren]

I primarily think it's a post-ML issue of having too many "I am nearly on top of the enemy rn" weapons as opposed to "I am dangerously close to the enemy rn"

[main estuary]

no error message though
the client just closed itself

[mellow violet]

does anyone know where i can get a list of the new calamity weapons by tier or better yet has one

[granite sapphire]

pins

[fierce nebula]

No it isn’t

[deep bough]

it doesnt even add sunken sea tiles

[main estuary]

im referring to basecal

[fierce nebula]

The issue still exists and no mod should be bricking saves by itself

[mellow violet]

my goat thank you

[deep bough]

it completely is

[hidden belfry]

If you want to be effective in melee, get 2 weapons, 1 Melee, 1 True Melee

[sick bloom]

is it normal for sun spirit staff to carry through the entirety of prehardmode and mechs

[deep bough]

various friends of mine have also played and tested it and they dont have any issues

[fierce nebula]

The code that causes the issue still exists, it’s just harder to do

[hidden belfry]

The sun spirit guides you through hell

[sick bloom]

every time my friend makes a different summon weapon its just worse than the spirit staff LOL

[main estuary]

is the sun spirit staff really that strong

[sick bloom]

it seems so!!

[unique warren]

This is probably the main reason I find Earth's rework so refreshing

[deep bough]

here ill turn it back on and see if that does anything

[fierce nebula]

I think saying you shouldn’t be worried that a mod that steals all of its shit and STILL corrupts saves is pretty stupid

[granite sapphire]

dang, it gets to a point that id just rather use the new weapon if its that strong

[sick bloom]

he's already nearly top fragging damage in our fights im scared for how good the post mech upgrade is...

[hoary merlin]

try a difference weapon is great for the knowledge ngl

[sick bloom]

I only surpass him by sheer ranger crit kerfuckery

[granite sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1470082983623921826/RDT_20260106_0019421109338228623107141.gif

[fierce nebula]

L

[granite sapphire]

you do it then

[hidden belfry]

I think it's mainly because the sword looks so... Outdated

[unique warren]

Hm?

[fierce nebula]

Can you not send gif files

[hidden belfry]

Earth... The sword... Looks outdated for it's time...

[granite sapphire]

idk but i can beat 2 old dukes at once

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🐠

[unique warren]

Well I mean it used to yea

[trail spoke]

Hey guys! Do you know which is the best Calamity class?

[granite sapphire]

melee

[hoary merlin]

mage

[main estuary]

why is it a sword

[fierce nebula]

The 🫧 🐠 class

[granite sapphire]

i might start fighting 2 old dukes at once now

[deep bough]

turned it back on after destorying some structures from the mod and killing bosses and my character and world aren't bricked

[steep path]

Something tells me I should start a mage playthrough when I get home today

[trail spoke]

what's that

[fierce nebula]

Wow!!! That means nobody should be worried

[granite sapphire]

its a dash animation now

[steep path]

Before it gets nerfed to the ground

[fierce nebula]

Please shut up

[granite sapphire]

Old duke looks a lot cooler now, i dont think it was reworked though

[hoary merlin]

I never know you could do two

[balmy saddle]

i wonder if there will be a melee black glass band upgrade

[deep bough]

again im not saying the errors arent real im saying its blown out of proportion

[granite sapphire]

i almost did 5 cause of the gold rod

[main estuary]

probably not

there's tmelee which already has similar things

[fierce nebula]

No it isn’t, any mod with malicious code shouldn’t be used

[wicked halo]

Oh my god the Auger is amazing.

[deep bough]

how is it malicious

[granite sapphire]

kinda viable for the mechs to

[unique warren]

I love that Earth has a further range attack (~28 tiles) and a smaller range attack (~18 tiles) and that's dope

[hoary merlin]

yeah he doesn't seem that bad though

[fierce nebula]

It causes your worlds and characters to corrupt 💀

[distant raft]

uhhhhh, he's right behind me, isn't he?

[wicked halo]

UP TO MECHS??? Holy shit I can use this for the entirety of pre-HM. I'm gonna beat the shit out of Slime God with it.

[deep bough]

but never happened to me or my friends? have u tested it yourself?

[fierce nebula]

It happened to me

[main estuary]

does tracking disk still annihilate sg

[deep bough]

when?

[fierce nebula]

Around a year ago

[deep bough]

🐟

[granite sapphire]

well time to do ranger reworked and new weapons class, though i dont think anything will rival Devil's Devastation

[deep bough]

tell me what u did and ill replicate it

[fierce nebula]

I disabled the mod

That’s all I did

[wicked halo]

Oh and the Old Lord's Claymore is great. Love the effects on it.

[deep bough]

hmm, what about InnoVault the library it uses?

[fierce nebula]

I don’t know, I just disabled the mod

[deep bough]

actually that might be the mod causing issues

Hold on I’ll disable just overhaul and leave innovault on and see what happens

[wicked halo]

It also has stolen code from Stars Above.

[deep bough]

Prove it

[fierce nebula]

It has been proven

The content cal overhaul adds is abysmal anyways

[deep bough]

also i tested it by removing just overhaul and not the library and it loads so i dunno

[hidden belfry]

"know that its stolen code" "it's stolen code fro—"
Let me enjoy my slop

Just kidding, I fucking hate slop

[deep bough]

🦅

[deep bough]

Also thanks for the proof

[upbeat hare]

how arent yall yet tired of talking about cal overhaul

[wicked halo]

I AM.

[deep bough]

Never

[hidden belfry]

I'm already sleepy, good night chat

[wicked halo]

I curse Mura and GitGud every fucking day for promoting that mod just for the Murasama rework.

[fierce nebula]

The shitty murasama rework

[dusk bronze]

dude i wish i could never think about it again

[hidden belfry]

Thank god I never actually tried or seen it's content 😌

[deep bough]

reloaded again and im not bricked 😔

[fierce nebula]

Insufferable

[grave rock]

You sure seem to be defending your slop a ton

[deep bough]

of course

[cobalt wharf]

this isn’t very updateous

[still cobalt]

Cal overhaul is trashslop

[fierce nebula]

Slopslop

[grave rock]

Also hi good morning
Slow day at work today

[hasty tangle]

we are. we are so fucking tired of this mod existing

[wicked halo]

Gm Roxy.

[hasty tangle]

and people defending it

[deep bough]

at least im not a fab supporter 🙏

[fierce nebula]

What does that have to do with anything

[hasty tangle]

and even if the mod has been "fixed", the fact it was in such an awful state for so long means you most definitely can not trust it

[amber egret]

uuuhh I THINK WE SHOULD KILL CALAMITY OVERHAUL

[upbeat hare]

yep

[still cobalt]

True

[upbeat hare]

cal overhaul just adds too much weird random shit

[still cobalt]

True!

[fierce nebula]

And none of that shit is good

[grave rock]

I am a pig and I eat slop

[vestal osprey]

Its like community remix except its expected you take it seriously

[fierce nebula]

One calamity overhaul with extra alchemistnpc!

[deep bough]

😍

[grave rock]

Murasama was a mistake

[fierce nebula]

Calamity if it never had murasama or qol changes 🌹

[tropic jolt]

it has to be this way

[fathom girder]

HAHA I GET IT

[tropic jolt]

I’m so funny

[fierce nebula]

Ha

[cinder mural]

(that soundtrack kinda fits the scal fight lmao)

[fathom girder]

It's not that high action brother 🥀

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/dormir1-gif-26928971

[halcyon seal]

This the typa shit im on after muting the calamity mod discord server

[fathom girder]

if I hear one more "true melee should be nowhere near the boss" take one more time I'm doing that too

[earnest jewel]

When is someone making a 'Calamity Overhaul but good' remake?

[polar tide]

it's called calamity mod

[fathom girder]

nothing about overhaul is good

[hot knot]

remove murasama from base cal so cal overhaul is 100% shit and not 99.999999% shit

[wicked halo]

I was about to make that joke.

[hot knot]

[vocal kelp]

true melee should................. NOT EXIST! 🎉

[fathom girder]

True melee is bait for armchair devs

[wicked halo]

God I wish MGR wasn't mainstream back in 2020-2022.

[vocal kelp]

you mean 2018

[pseudo vector]

or we could make our own murasama rework that's more interesting than overhaul's

[polar tide]

hello cdmusic

[pseudo vector]

and better balanced

and not made with stolen code

[pseudo vector]

hello bro

[hot knot]

i would like to see that become a reality honestly

[kind igloo]

What types of enemeis can the forbidden oathblade slow down?

[fathom girder]

It's currently in development, with a custom menu for customizing it and a few dozen dev sprites

[polar tide]

a few dozen dev sprites...

[fierce nebula]

🔥

[fathom girder]

woag...

[wide nova]

orange carnymassacre

[polar tide]

cyan tyeski

[vestal osprey]

Thats not cyan, thats teal

[fathom girder]

KONG

[red iris]

is rain armor fr op or is it a meme

[fathom girder]

yes it's op

[zenith pelican]

how do you get the elden monolith?

[main estuary]

rune of kos sounded cooler
change my mind

[stuck kite]

you don't

[red iris]

is there something i need to do to make it op because 60 dmg when its raining doesn't seem op

[shell dust]

I don't get it

[stuck kite]

(that'll be fixed in a hotfix)

[shell dust]

Great rune accessory when

[proud sphinx]

how do i find out whats the best ranger class progression

like actual meta and allat

wiki dont have everything

[wary crest]

Wait for the wiki guide to get updated, or test yourself

[proud sphinx]

also did mage class meta change much from 2023-now?

[fathom girder]

Mage class is so different, it's great

[cobalt wharf]

“how do i know the meta for x” you,,, experiment. thas how metas work they arent spawned out of air

[fathom girder]

It's too early to really tell what the meta currently is, but there's a billion different options that are really good EXCEPT FOR PROVIDENCE

[balmy saddle]

just play the game and test out some weapons

if u dont want to grind then just play journey

[fathom girder]

For providence, arc ring teslastaff that sonovabitch

She'll melt in less than a minute

[dusk bronze]

arc flash ring 💚

[fathom girder]

Teslastaff at max rampup with arc flash is devastating- chaos stone also makes it a crazy ass combo but requires a lot of practice to pull off right

[unique warren]

This how I feel every time I see someone ask for class setups lo

Like is it not fun to just mess around and see what does well

[cobalt wharf]

well grinding is unrelated this is just experimentation
most things should be viable anyways

[grave geyser]

^

[pine moat]

i guess to some, they dont want to farm something only to find out it's underwhelming performance wise,
that or it is hard to exactly determine if something is a dps boost due to training dummy shenanigans, and doing boss testing can be too variable, or that they end up thinking option A is better hwen B is actually better and just placebo

[mellow spade]

new provi visuals are amazing

[unique warren]

That's fair I suppose

[dusk bronze]

true ✅

[pine moat]

still i think it would be nice if players figure out on their own, then ask after they tried all the options they could

cuz sometimes u find better dps or more fun looking weapons than the class recommendations

like aqueous hunter drone or going all in on vengeful sun staff

[unique warren]

Yeah, and like, you can look at the wiki for what is available

[cobalt wharf]

i’ve only really gotten stuck like that when i’ve avoided using weapons i randomly don’t like

[fathom girder]

what kinda stuff buffs electric debuffs? I wanna juice my tesla amulet

[unique warren]

Ok is anyone else having enemies and bosses turn invisible when they use Earth

[dusk bronze]

no

[fathom girder]

That's called killing them

[unique warren]

That's odd

[dusk bronze]

some alcohol probably

[pine moat]

rip old old fashioned

[dusk bronze]

yeah tequila

but it's hardmode

[fathom girder]

geuh

[granite sapphire]

THE SCIONS CURIO TALKS?

[unique warren]

Bleh

[blazing field]

old duke yapping

[granite sapphire]

Omg bruh I was just afk for a little bit looking at vanity I didnt know it would start annoying me

[fathom girder]

you killed it clearly

[unique warren]

[distant raft]

istg if this is like the twelfth miracle blight bug

[granite sapphire]

LLAMAS IN HATS REFERENCE?

[unique warren]

It could just be a me thing

[distant raft]

surely it isnt mac right

[unique warren]

That would be odd

[distant raft]

i know mac has fucked up and evil lag but ive never heard of it fucking up ingame shit

[granite sapphire]

People who don't eat babies are wussies omg

I love this guy, let's invite him to the party

[unique warren]

I also had an issue with tainted not working on quite a few reworked weapons that one was very fun

[pine moat]

speaking of scions curio

[red iris]

how is the rain armor op

[cobalt wharf]

miracle blight,,,,

[pine moat]

i wonder if it works on magic weapons even if it explicitly states "ranged". maybe ranged as in any weapons that have projectiles ? idk im coping lmao. ill see when i find an enemy

[cobalt wharf]

it checks for the damage class of the projectile

[fathom girder]

Ranged as in ranged damage

[pine moat]

🥹

[cobalt wharf]

in terraria, almost every damaging entity is internally a projectile

held spears, projectiles. minions and pets, projectiles. the only damaging thing that isn’t a projectile is basic swords and pickaxes

[distant raft]

axe is.... projectile media...?

[cobalt wharf]

no but chainsaws are

[fathom girder]

what about drills

[distant raft]

yeah drills are projectiles

[fierce nebula]

Drills 🥀

[surreal hare]

can someone point me toward the faq if there is one?

[unique warren]

Wait is galileo gladius even true melee

Like it doesn't display with that damage type despite the left click attack seemingly being so

[mellow spade]

i've discovered a new pastime

[worn fulcrum]

Have I said they better?
No, I just said what it does add weapons
Then what the problem?

[prisma cipher]

Perditius is now a straight upgrade to Kaleidoscope

[mellow spade]

also, kevin

[prisma cipher]

Kevin doesn’t count imo it’s post game

[hasty hawk]

Literally all of them, made intentionally better so you use them

[deft lily]

none of them because i eated them

[worn fulcrum]

To be fair I found the trident useful
And egg sword+staff what give you protection

[distant raft]

is punctus even that good compared to other on tier melees

[worn fulcrum]

Idk tbh

Trident from subworld thing is good mobility tool for me

[distant raft]

like its current competition is fuckin byleth gilded proboscis and the hammer

[unique warren]

Wait ok so Aegis blade's description dynamically updates with the use type you did last, that makes more sense

[mystic eagle]

Also Stellar Striker

[worn fulcrum]

Still
Myrindael seems to be very useful

Homing and mobility
If you doing true melee sound good

[frosty marten]

God i love grape beer

[unique warren]

Ok nvm this is just a weird issue of not displaying true melee damage type properly lol

[raw vector]

GREEN NEEDLE UPDATE

[granite sapphire]

Ever heard of Kamina.

[mellow spade]

there is nothing more satisfying than using wave pounder during a zerg'd up blood moon

[granite sapphire]

Drills are a projectile, cause if they weren't, his wouldn't have pierced the Heavens.

I just realized I didn't eat the dragonfruit on my 2.1 melee run

[still pollen]

alcoholism?

[mellow spade]

I mean technically but moreso just buffing spawn rates

If you do this during a blood moon you get about 150 enemies at all times
Even if you kill them all they respawn so, so fast

[still pollen]

the new alcohols I haven't really touched yet because I've been out of the clamity loop

[mellow spade]

Humourously you can do this in pre-hardmode

[neat hamlet]

honest to god question: why did they remove so much stuff in this update?

[distant raft]

bloat got removed

[amber furnace]

I miss the old carnage sprite

[dull heart]

Hi

[frosty marten]

You can also get Bloody Mary waay earlier than zerg now

[dull heart]

It us i

[neat hamlet]

i'm really upset about the angling kits i really don't want to have to talk to the angler for the fish finder again

[dull heart]

Yup

[mellow spade]

It's really not that bad, you only have to do about 15 quests to get everything for fish finder and tackle bag

[dull heart]

Zerg might be phased out bc of bloody mary

[neat hamlet]

it's still a pain in the ass though

[mellow spade]

it really isn't though calamity buffs fishing a lot

[mellow spade]

that makes sense tbh cuz BM is really really strong

[grave geyser]

bloody candle

[neat hamlet]

does it? i literally have not fished once since vanilla and i try to avoid it at all costs

[fathom girder]

speaking of
has anyone used the lures and has anyone actually gotten better fishing rewards using them

Because I tried the wulfrum lure, it showed me blue and red waves and I just did not understand it at all LMAO

[mellow spade]

yeah, the angler quest rewards are fixed (you'll always get the same ones each time) and there's a fair few calamity fishing items like alluring bait and enchanted pearl to help

[lyric trellis]

Literally all I know is that Feral Bobber hits 4k+ dps

[fathom girder]

???????????????????

[dull heart]

Hold a direction matching the blue

Red means thays what direction you held and failed in

[neat hamlet]

this is very slightly reassuring thank you

[fathom girder]

how long do I have to hold it..? I feel like it's not the most intuitive thing

[dull heart]

Do it until the next one comes

Is the easiest way

[fathom girder]

ogey

[mellow spade]

by the way @dull heart you might want to look into vampiric talisman, the lifesteal is way too strong

[dull heart]

understood

[fathom girder]

Lifesteal in general is rather good rn, I like how it functions

[mellow spade]

I've never seen the lifesteal cooldown pop up once, it's just constant healing

[dull heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406493898341613568/1466217694037540874/Terraria__Can_You_Re-Dig-It__2026-01-28_17-44-55.mp4?ex=697bf123&is=697a9fa3&hm=72a13d7bebe80da971f790cbc4032fa82ccaa06f706dc2ee8413916be24c1e94&

2.1 better lifesteal cooldown

[fathom girder]

uh oh

[mellow spade]

paired with a fast rogue weapon like say radiant star it's like... waaaaay too busted

[dull heart]

Then it means it either bypasses it or just isn't healing as much as the pool refreshes

[mellow spade]

It's 1-2 hp healing, but it's super frequent

[fathom girder]

oh yeah that's the system doing its job pretty sure

[mellow spade]

so it's like an extra 10 HP/s which feels a bit too powerful

[dull heart]

The 2.1.1 lifesteal cooldown will make it more obvious whats happening

[mellow spade]

yeah I healed about 400 health in 15 seconds just now with shattered dawn, it's pretty crazy

[fathom girder]

what do you think goes on in the painter's brain

[frosty marten]

He thinking bout the dryad

[prisma cipher]

Eating dirt

[deep bough]

How to cook children into paint

[dull heart]

ok so it definitely just doesn't set c9oldowj

[dull heart]

Ur mom

[frosty marten]

[fathom girder]

[frail ice]

melee has some super W reworks in 2.1 im noticing

[fathom girder]

Everyone got a lot of love yea

[prisma cipher]

Mage got the best reworks imo but all classes are so much better I love it all

[proud ice]

why devs went so hard on BoC, he legit felt like some lategame boss 😭
he was very cool tho

[crimson wraith]

Is the empress of light whip the strongest whip in calamity?

[prisma cipher]

In terms of weapons, mage is actually better than mage melee now imo

[frail ice]

im excited to discover the other classes as well ive been doing a melee playthrough and just discovered the deaths ascension rework holy W

[prisma cipher]

Morningstar technically, but a bit shorter range and not really noticeable for most of post moon lord

[fathom girder]

mage is the best class vs providence rn pretty sure

[crimson wraith]

Does summoner fall off late game because of that or nah

[frail ice]

that reworked greatsword of judgment was doing wonders for me on providence

ill have to try mage on my next playthrough

[prisma cipher]

Not really

[dull heart]

No, summon3r is balanced without whips in mind

[frail ice]

i found mage to be really good early game too on my current playthrough

[fierce nebula]

Why is there a 3

[dull heart]

New keyboard onf phone

[prisma cipher]

There’s other active weapons now as well like saros possession and shit

[dull heart]

Typing is pain

[fierce nebula]

Oh you did it twice so I thought it was intentional lol

[dull heart]

Go my goat SuperEpicPhotonRipperZenithKnockoffAttack

On virid vanguard

(That's the actual internal name of the active on vanguard)

[prisma cipher]

I’m sad that they require minion slots because I can’t fucking use them in my playthrough

[dull heart]

rip

[frosty marten]

"Damn this summoner class is pretty good, i wonder when they'll release summoner 2"
The humble summoner 3:

[unique warren]

Yo does anyone else here play on mac

[prisma cipher]

That’s pretty superepicphotonripperzenithknockoffattack

[dull heart]

Virid is still a fantastic suppo4t summon due to being a debuffe4

[hexed trellis]

I killed the brain of cthulhu but didnt get ANY loot?

[dull heart]

make a bug report with logs so we can try to trace the issue

Can try disabling Rev if needed

[fathom girder]

this reads like a youtube shorts title

[prisma cipher]

Doze what alcohols is best for offense

[hexed trellis]

I just closed the game can I still do it

[dull heart]

Yes

It's in the games files, right click on steam and hit browse local files

Don't reopen or it'll reset logs

[hexed trellis]

terraria or tmodloader cus idk how those work together

[dull heart]

Tmod

It abiuld be in the Manage menu

[fathom girder]

abiuld..

[hexed trellis]

ah yeah

which log file do you need

[dull heart]

Client if single-player, client and s3rver both in MP

I HATE this keyboard

[hexed trellis]

alright on it

[crimson wraith]

I'm really not sure if I should go with mage or summoner after plantera
Not having more whips is kinda sad

[unique warren]

Large sadness indeed

[dull heart]

Good thing it doesn't need them

[crimson wraith]

No yeah but I think summoner is kinda boring without whips

[unique warren]

It's probably more of a fun factor thing yea

[fathom girder]

1.4.5 whips are so sick I love how unique the ml whip is

[crimson wraith]

I could use other weapons but at that point why wouldn't I just change the class

[unique warren]

The only real issue is balance but they are sick asf

[wary crest]

Don’t you get debuffed if you do that

[prisma cipher]

My favorite is electric eel

[crimson wraith]

I don't know if that's the case in calamity

[fathom girder]

god forbid the single player game not be perfectly balanced

[crimson wraith]

I mean I don't see why that would be the case if we don't have many whips

[unique warren]

Balance is still important in single player games :)

[fathom girder]

Terraria isn't a goddamn comp pvp game stop complaining about that shit

If it ain't perfect it's not the end of the world go have fun

[crimson wraith]

Balance is important in single player games too

[unique warren]

Calm down dude holy moly 😭

[hexed trellis]

Hey so I posted the logs but I did it wrong, for some reason said server log is from 2023

[prisma cipher]

I think terraria needs to be somewhat balanced so you’re encouraged to use cool new stuff because it is fun to use stuff

[unique warren]

And balance is a good thing to strive for regardless of competitive play

[crimson wraith]

Balance is very important in single player games especially rpgs

[dull heart]

okay that's fine, i should have mentioned that you need to server host for the server log to work oops

client log still helps thank you

[hexed trellis]

Ah yeah I didn't host

I want my rewards smh 😔

[crimson wraith]

The new lab weapons are sick as shit so I will probably just play without a class for now to try them

[frosty marten]

Give me liberty
Give me fire
Give me that shield
Or i retire

[unique warren]

My biggest suggestion is to try to juggle all classes at the same time

[vivid creek]

maybe they made fallen paladin hammer/stellar contempt too good 🙏

i'm post signus and it's still better than anything i've ever used

[frigid saffron]

any new whips?

[dull heart]

W also try class mixing with Stratus weapons

[unique warren]

Nah

[dull heart]

stellar contempt is notably broken yeah

it'll be nerfed

[frigid saffron]

back to sleep I go.

[unique warren]

Cal kinda needs a whole reconsideration of what they're doing with summoner probably

[vivid creek]

i will abuse this as best as i possibly can

[dull heart]

correct

[vivid creek]

cant wait for post-dog upgrade

[dull heart]

no, but there ARE new actives for summoner

Virid Vanguard, Igneous Exaltation, Aqueous Hunter Drone, and Saros Possession all come to mind

[frigid saffron]

might just swap to melee, Providence just kinda hard

[unique warren]

No, you have to class lock...

[hard copper]

Hybrid melee and summoner

[dull heart]

what are you using rn for gear/weapons

[grave rock]

Is valhalla knight usable on provi

[dull heart]

yes

Rainbow Crystal is insanely strong

but stardust def better

[hard copper]

You can use ark of the elements which is cool and fun

[prisma cipher]

Yeah cuz rainbow crystal does tmelee damage whilst being ranged

[light mango]

Any class recommendations for the update?

[prisma cipher]

Mage got a lot of reworks and new weapons

[wary crest]

Mage is really strong apparently

[prisma cipher]

Also a new accessory in pre hardmode

[light mango]

👍

[dull heart]

all of them got a lot - multiclassing even got a lot

personally i reccomend just usinging whatever looks cool and not caring about class too much

[prisma cipher]

Best way to play tbh

[grave rock]

Multiclassing is rly fun

Apparently rain armor is broken?

[wary crest]

Isn’t there a new alchohol that encourages multiclassing?

I’ve been meaning to try multiclassing but I always end up get locked in on one class

[distant raft]

whiskey yeah

[mild atlas]

i like the look of the new Draedon Labs

[mellow spade]

god DAMN molten amputator is epic

who do I have to thank for the rework?

[dawn root]

why holy collider is not true melee?

why

[grim pecan]

oversight, it should be true melee

[boreal pewter]

It is supposed to be, it's a bug

ye

[grim pecan]

oh hi xyk

[boreal pewter]

what are YOU doing here

[grim pecan]

what are YOU doing here

[boreal pewter]

oh you're right, bye

[swift light]

Am I the only one who sees the abyss incredibly dark after the update?

[mellow spade]

Nope, that's intentional

Highly recommend you do Torch God so you can light up the place easily

[cunning sequoia]

you gotta get some light in there

[frosty marten]

Read the pinssssss

[amber fern]

This change is amazing. the flashlight effect super dope.

Until you see a reaver shark sneak up on you 💀

Mild panic with that last night trying to get voidstone ngl

[cunning sequoia]

i havent experienced it myself yet but i already love it

the abyss finally feels like a horror biome

[amber fern]

10/10 would panic use rod of discord again, only to be bullied by big boi

(yes i forgot it summons primordial wyrm 💀 )

[swift light]

and so now doing the primordial Wyrm is 100 times worse

[amber fern]

just get more light ez

[frosty marten]

I think the darkness effect goes away when you fight it?

[mellow spade]

woah, what's the arc flash ring?

[swift light]

just downgrade to 2.0.7.2🤣

[swift light]

nop

[fathom girder]

I went down to like the third layer trying to farm for lumenyl, and I panned the flashlight over to a random spot and saw a colossal squid like RIGHT behind me and it scared the shit outta me lul

The lighting changes are great

[amber fern]

well thats better than my weapon auto tracking a colossal squid and proceeding to get murdered instantly by it 🤣

[mellow spade]

arc flash ring seems pretty strong, damn

[vast dome]

I’m 2 lazy to check did the update add any whips or nah

[amber fern]

was gonna look more into trying multiclass again, think ill just stick with rogue, been having fun

[jagged copper]

Bosses unshittified in 2.1: Cultist

[fathom girder]

It's a mainstay accessory yes

[frank shadow]

Has the voodoo demon spawn rate been reduced or something? This is the first time I've been specifically looking for them

[fathom girder]

The increased spawnrate pre wof was removed entirely

[frail ice]

its only reduced when youre looking for them lol

[frank shadow]

1 voodoo demon in 20 minutes is crazy

[frail ice]

i luckily started my world before 2.1 so i was able to stock up on voodoo dolls

[amber fern]

close fight there at the end. ggs

[quiet galleon]

Brainstorming it

[frank shadow]

They also removed the endless Wall of Flesh summon.

[frail ice]

ouch

[quiet spade]

i got 2 :D

[mystic eagle]

That is not and never was a cal thing

[amber fern]

i mean if you need demons to spawn more, get some zerg potions going

[frank shadow]

how to get it?

[amber fern]

i found like 10 zerg potions in the planetoid lab.

[quiet spade]

i got it from killing gems crawlers

[mellow spade]

i still don't have one...

[west isle]

are acid rains bugged or smth? i cant get them to start

[shut ridge]

Kinda miss this

[fathom girder]

I like not having to freak the fffffffffuck out because every demon is a voodoo demon that could spawn wof before I wanted to

the reverted spawnrate encourages properly preparing the hellbridge

[amber fern]

and by properly preparing you mean making an insta obsidian bridge right

[shut ridge]

For me I thought it was hilarious that at any mistake the wof could spawn

[amber fern]

Fargos mutant my beloved

[fathom girder]

cringe

[shut ridge]

But yeah the spawn rates were way too crazy, i wish they kept it at a slightly higher chance than it is now though

[amber fern]

QoL exists, i use the QoL

[unique warren]

Goated

Mutant is also peak QoL

[amber fern]

being able to cancel events you dont want to?? peakkkkk

[fathom girder]

I avoid using the instabridge stuff because it destroys either the crags or the underworld draedon lab

[unique warren]

That is true tho

[amber fern]

you gotta place it super low to break the lab

[fathom girder]

kinda depends but like. I'm just gonna make the actual bridge

[amber fern]

crags, just place it higher tbh. i had gotten wings pretty early from mobs there so i wasnt really worried bout the height of it

[fathom girder]

there's also benefits to natural generation blocking some of the nonsense WoF throws at you

[mellow spade]

i really gotta know who to thank for the molten amputator rework

[amber fern]

still all up to ya, i just prefer saving time on more annoying things in game for me 🤷🏻‍♀️

[mellow spade]

this is my new favourite weapon

[frail ice]

thats why i use luiafk to make bridges it doesnt break blocks and you can shape the area around it how you please

[unique warren]

Idk about that but not wanting to get rid of all the generation is valid

[fathom girder]

It blocks the lasers specifically

[fierce nebula]

I use placing the blocks manually to make bridges

[mild atlas]

curious do you need a big ass arena for new BoC or just basic few platforms as before

[fathom girder]

new BoC was designed to be possible in the crimson cave I think- the attacks all fit well in there

[amber fern]

i personally made my arena pretty big just to help me out. but you dont need it to be wild. basic arena should work as long as your movement is fine

[frail ice]

i just used the crimson cave with like 2 layers of platforms

[amber fern]

i dont know if ive ever used luiafk for bridges. i use their mod for other lil things

[frail ice]

i found the crimson cave to be big enough for the fight its kinda tight but works

[amber fern]

i had tried my fight once, got rekt cuz i kept getting caught on stuff around me. so just widened it out a fair bit with tnt.

Then it got turned into astral biome anyway 💀

[mild atlas]

also is my memory off or was King Slime kinda reworked?
dont remember it having a green gem only red

[fathom girder]

That's an old change

[still cobalt]

It used to have 3 but then was changed to 2

[mild atlas]

oh my bad memory off then

[fathom girder]

My crimson got spawncamped

[unique warren]

So sad...

[lone violet]

holy shpc is so satisfying and op, my fav weapon so far

[supple sorrel]

needs souls as ammo. trying to farm a load of souls of fright for it right now. its pretty good indeed.

[lone violet]

idk im using souls of sight, prob gonna switch onto another wep before i run out, +mechs are nerfed to the ground so even if you dont have alchemist npc lite its easy to farm

[fathom girder]

All the souls are pretty fancy yea

[supple sorrel]

sight is nice. the homing almost never works for me so I'm using fright since they do more base damage.

[mellow spade]

ceaseless void with 200 contact damage :) this is fun

[lone violet]

flight seems hella op if you can hit direct shots

[unique warren]

Is there any way to quickly swap SHPC ammo btw

[lone violet]

dont think so, have to spend previous mag first, takes like 10 seconds tho

[frail cove]

what is up with the massive chains of blocks only obtainable through shimmering? (basalt, runestone, etc.)

I know that some of them are probably for the sunken sea, but what is mossy stone even for?

[lone violet]

they really like shimmer this update

[mossy adder]

How long will it take for the wiki to be fully up to date?

[lone violet]

oh also try out ursa sergeant, very cool accessory

[unique warren]

That's a tad lame but fair nuff

[wary crest]

Couple months probably

[mossy adder]

Damn
Well, my next playthrough will have to wait then

[mellow spade]

is Ceaseless Void legit the hardest fight in the mod now, this is awful holy shit

[twin roost]

DoG is fantastic.

[main estuary]

are you dying to dark energy?

[mellow spade]

constantly

[twin roost]

It's just a case of precision and patience.

[mellow spade]

i'm not moving a lot either

[main estuary]

yeah that's a fight design issue

[mellow spade]

ok but why is it so precise and punishing
you move a little too far away it ZOOMS at you and you can't dodge that

[twin roost]

Fabsol probably Idk, try not to move too far.

The lasers in the suck phase are dumb though.

[mellow spade]

this fight is so ass

[lyric trellis]

? It’s way easier now

[mellow spade]

i swear it wasn't this bad when it first got reworked in 1.5

[mellow spade]

if anything it got harder, what are you talking about

[main estuary]

pre-2.1 cv was pretty mid

[lyric trellis]

He just sits there

[mellow spade]

it still bullshits you if you go too far away from it and the 200 damage per hit from death mode is absolutely awful

[main estuary]

that's the cv fight i know and dislike

[lyric trellis]

Well there’s 0 reason for you to ever go far away when he’s still the whole time and the energies move in a consistent way + you can still ram them

[mellow spade]

it's an absolutely horrible fight i don't know what you're going on about
the energies may move consistently, but it's so tight
and if you do ram them, you end up going too far away, and that's that

also the lasers in the suck phase are horrendous

I also can't see the damn energies cuz of all the visual effects on my screen

[jagged copper]

oh...oh no...

Moonlord...what have they done

[mellow spade]

yeah this fight sucks, sorry

[twin roost]

I've never found CV all that hard, even the current version just took some practice and figuring out the quirks.

[lyric trellis]

Actually this is death so idk how it changes but Rev is like free

[jagged copper]

he attacks at full aggression even when the eyes are out, they actually took a note out of old Malice moon lord

[twin roost]

Death is the same but more energies.

Might be a bit faster Idk.

[jagged copper]

the current version is the easiest version since the fight rework

[twin roost]

Yeah didn't it like move around you in a square pattern in 1.5? I forgor.

[jagged copper]

uhhhh worse, way worse

[mellow spade]

you make ONE MISTAKE

on a THREE AND A HALF MINUTE FIGHT

no, they made it worse, i swear they made it worse in 2.1

[jagged copper]

the biggest problem CV had was the fact it moved with you, making weaving between the energies a nightmare. They got rid of the problem and now it's better

[mellow spade]

ok but you still have to be basically perfect

or else you get chain hit and die instantly
full defensive loadout, by the way

[jagged copper]

not unless you can destroy the energies quickly

[twin roost]

The laser orbs being far and moving faster is still far superior, a mix of those would make the fight pretty decent imo.

Maybe a visual indicator to show when you're going too far?

[mellow spade]

good thing i'm playing the worst class for that, then

[jagged copper]

what are you?

[verbal bough]

How do you find shellstone and basalt?

[mellow spade]

rogue

[twin roost]

[verbal bough]

[jagged copper]

...ok yeah fair

[twin roost]

Hi SMG4.

[twin roost]

Of all the bosses, I think CV trapping you into (and working within the confines of) a restricted area would be the best bet. A pedistool for the Mark Of Providence or it being chained up like Infernum could do the trick and make the fight more managable, them moving away can just do the Providence thing or something.

[mellow spade]

absolutely embarrassing to have to bring out an infinite potions mod on ceaseless void

but i just can't beat this MISERABLE fucking portal

would skip it but alas there's a fun weapon locked behind it and I want it for new Old Duke

[jagged copper]

The Moon Lord's eyes continue attacking afterward, but at a reduced frequency and with lower velocity projectiles.
This no longer exists on Death

[twin roost]

Whar?

[tropic jolt]

👀

[jagged copper]

Old Malice Moonlord had this removed too and it was one of the main reasons why it was one of the worst bosses on Malice

[pine moat]

nice

[cobalt wharf]

use molten amputator

[quiet spade]

it was way more easier than i expected

[fierce nebula]

Easy game

[pine moat]

just curious @jagged copper , have you tried legion of celestia (the new elemental axe) for that boss? when i tested the dps on the dummy, i recalled legion of celestia having higher dps, but i might be misremembering thingss

[mellow spade]

i am

[twin roost]

Guess there's no more major changes but good fun, loved the boss changes and can't (but will somehow) wait for Sunken Sea 2 electric boogaloo.

[jagged copper]

ok for the record that video was on v2.0.0.3 of Calamity, so back then it was the Elemental Axe, and it was shit

[pine moat]

ahh

[jagged copper]

idk what it's like now

plus I'm doing melee atm

and currently need to deal with pseudo old malice moonlord

[pine moat]

i dont have a good memory, but i did a short dummy test on legion ofcelestia vs terraprisma a day ago and legion seemed to be better dps

[jagged copper]

by this point it does

back in 2.0.0.3, Terraprisma had yet to be nerfed, so it was broken

[pine moat]

wait it got nerfed? xd i thought it was the same until 2.1 buffed it further

[jagged copper]

a lot of meta vanilla weapons got slapped with nerfs of some kind

which is fair

[mellow spade]

rot in hell you miserable thing

[twin roost]

New egg sprite is cool.

[mellow spade]

ok, so this is the first boss that's actually fit my concern for death mode 2.1

[fathom girder]

Gotta say it again, whoever made the Aether theme for 2.1 made one of my favorite songs ever

[mellow spade]

that being "it's built off master statbloat"

the master statbloat was yet to really rear its ugly head until CV

[wide wadi]

Wait so that was the one boss that gave you trouble the whole run

[mellow spade]

so far, yes

[jagged copper]

Ok so moonlord, I'm gonna need to change something here

[fathom girder]

Sentinels as a whole are the hardest bosses for me rn as well

[mellow spade]

other bosses I struggled with were clearly just a skill issue and me not knowing the patterns yet but CV was just torture even though I knew what to do

[jagged copper]

mainly replace SI with something else

[mellow spade]

Fishron was also kinda rough tbh

[shadow urchin]

no

[autumn rune]

Has anyone noticed that the game has become very easy? Or difficulty not working ? I used to play and it was really hard to even kill an eye

[copper scaffold]

man

[hard copper]

Ambrosial ampoule, you could also replace treads with absorber and valor with master ninja gear

[autumn rune]

Im playing on masochist-death difficulty, and bosses is too easy, maybe something broken ?

[rotund shell]

Guys I know this is years old but, what was the rationale behind removing EoL flawless trophy (Terraprisma)

[jagged copper]

I was mainly looking to replace Soaring Insignia

[rotund shell]

Are you playing mage perchance? Mage is stupud broken

40k dps post moonlord broken

[jagged copper]

locking a weapon behind an arbritrary challenge was never a good idea

[hard copper]

Well in the update 3 days ago they made it only drop from day empress again