calamity-update-talk

[tribal isle]

like from half lfie 2

[dusk bronze]

from dead cells actually

[rain arrow]

Ohhh that’s where it’s from. I just know it from Yogscast TTT.

[rich crystal]

Honestly yea I wouldn’t be mad at that

[noble stirrup]

Pretty hype in general for the 2nd evil bosses to be late game- filthy mind is one of my favorite tracks

[unique warren]

Anyways I should write my Auric tier Ultima suggestion

[rich crystal]

We’re talking about hive mind and the other one right?

[noble stirrup]

I assume so

[dusk bronze]

isn't that a donor item

[fathom girder]

he really wants ultima to be something it isn't

[unique warren]

She.

[fathom girder]

sorry

she

[unique warren]

And no not really

[noble stirrup]

hive mind and perforators?

[rich crystal]

Yea those two

[dusk bronze]

that's evil2 yes

[unique warren]

It’s legit just a tier shift to make it so it stays with Starmada lol

[rich crystal]

Sorry I never fight perforators ever

I always do hive mind

[unique warren]

But also I’ll shut up about it and just make the suggestion lmfao

[rich crystal]

I’m gonna do it next playthrough though cause of Brainstorm

[dull heart]

for the record, starmaggeddon retier to auric would not pass at all if it's part of that

[dusk bronze]

you'd need permission from the donor

[dull heart]

2.1 finally fixes starmageddon + starmada matching tiers

we're not just gonna move them back onto the same tier

[unique warren]

Nah, really just an Ultima issue

[dusk bronze]

i thought that was intentional

you choose one or the other

[unique warren]

Ultima has the cool factor for auric and also just has the exact same aesthetic as Starmada

[rich crystal]

What’s starmageddon?

[dusk bronze]

starmada counterpart

[rich crystal]

Ok what’s starmada

[dusk bronze]

wiki

[tribal isle]

is starmageddon staying on its tier idk how im gonna kill yharon without it

[unique warren]

Ye

[dull heart]

yes

[rich crystal]

Ooh it’s a ranger weapon I’ve never used or seen ever

[dull heart]

use Thread of Eradication

[exotic axle]

Just add build battle to calamity like 🙄

[fierce nebula]

Calamity has a million things I’ve never seen or used before

[rich crystal]

Just wait for that PvP seed from 1.4.5 lol

[dull heart]

thread of eradiaction is nice

[rich crystal]

I’m actually excited to see how they’ll do all the stuff in 1.4.5

Like the Skyblock seed

[cobalt wharf]

there are over 60 weapons placed after dog and before yharon dawg you are so fine

[exotic axle]

Hey schmoov

[cobalt wharf]

hi

[tropic jolt]

the skyblock seed lore is that draedon trapped you inside of his terrarium

[noble stirrup]

Thinking about playing ranged or mage for my next playthrough. My first and last playthrough I switched between rogue and melee; melee'd when the rogue option felt bad.

[dusk bronze]

mage

[fierce nebula]

Thorium reference?

[dense sundial]

tmod fans when the weapon doesn't play the game for them

[rich crystal]

I thought that was the lore of terraria or was that a fan theory

Like we were trapped in a terrarium

[noble stirrup]

Probably, mage is my least played class, would feel fresh

[rich crystal]

I saw that online a few days ago

[pearl sentinel]

thats what the kids call a shitpost

[crimson arrow]

At the end its all range somehow with different projectiles

[urban cloak]

calamity is just draedon testing his strongest hallucinogenic on you

it was never real

[exotic axle]

Mm yeah that makes sense

[noble stirrup]

There's some "true" melee options; those are pretty fun, tbh

[exotic axle]

Trees are too unrealistic anyway

[urban cloak]

exactly

[rich crystal]

Calamity Steroids update???

[crimson arrow]

true 🙂

[distant raft]

calamity is a carbon monoxide induced hallucination brought forth by your improper burning of gel in an enclosed environment

[urban cloak]

we removed steroids actually

[rich crystal]

Oh actually lol I didn’t know they were in the game

[distant raft]

yharim's stimulants got removed in 2.0 right

[mystic eagle]

They were removed years ago

[urban cloak]

ye olde Yharim's Steroids

[dull heart]

we should bring them back

[mystic eagle]

2.1 I think

2.0.1

Shit

[dusk bronze]

worst thing to happen in history

[dull heart]

2.0.2

[distant raft]

all of us were wrong

[dusk bronze]

i'm not

[dull heart]

when i played originally in 2.0.1.X they existed

[rich crystal]

When did they remove fabsols vodka? I remember last time o played I tried looking for it and couldn’t find it then I realized they renamed it

[grave geyser]

It’s not removed

[rich crystal]

I meant renamed

[exotic axle]

You guys treat drugs and alcohol so callously, I propose you need to keep using them otherwise you’ll suffer withdrawal symptoms

[grave geyser]

It’s just called purple haze

[rich crystal]

When did they rename

[dusk bronze]

2.0.5

last june

[grave geyser]

^

[mystic eagle]

They renamed it to Purple Haze in 2.0.5, June 1st 2025

[rich crystal]

Ok so sorta recently, I remember back like 5 years ago I used it

[cobalt wharf]

ohmygosh NEWGEN

[fathom girder]

how fallout of you

[dull heart]

L

[fierce nebula]

W

[mystic eagle]

Wait you only started in 2.0.1??

[dull heart]

actually i originally originally played back when CV was BoC 2 and the evolution was 25% reflect chance

but then i never played again for many years and never interacted with community

[urban cloak]

I think I first played a little under a year before rust and dust

[grave geyser]

I’m a little after that but around the same

[cobalt wharf]

i didn’t actually touch singleplayer until 1.5

[dusk bronze]

i started like a couple months before

rust and dust

[rich crystal]

I’m newer I started I think 2021 💔 sadly cause I didn’t get a laptop till then

[noble stirrup]

My first and only full playthrough was just after rust and dust

I believe

as a trio group of players~

[rich crystal]

My first playthrough was on my brothers laptop and I didn’t beat Calamitas, and I cheated on DoG by turning it onto classic mode

And it was on rogue

But I did that all in like 2 days cause I was at his house for a few days

And I knew nothing about the game

[noble stirrup]

I also had the Astrageldon mod, that fight was a highlight.

[radiant flower]

been a fan of the music since 2017 but only touched terraria october 2025

and my god i wish i was a player much earlier 😭

[rich crystal]

Astrageldon is genuinely a peak fight

Like I spent maybe 2 hours trying to beat it and when I finally did it I was so happy

And then I could keep doing it over and over

[noble stirrup]

About the same~ yeah

[unique warren]

Wait so if I were to do this would I contact the donor myself or just make the suggestion

[radiant flower]

astragel is indeed very cool but i do not like how the drops it gives invalidate everything till post dog

[lyric trellis]

Geldon seriously has had the biggest reputation recovery ever because of Catalyst because the original was so bad

[rich crystal]

Astrageldon is gonna be a permanent thing I fight every playthrough at this point unless it gets reworked to be bad

[dusk bronze]

idk

[rich crystal]

I’m not gonna use the items much but I love the fight

[lyric trellis]

Contact the donor I’m pretty sure, unless they no longer exist

[radiant flower]

yeah easiest thing is to just fight it and dont use the armor

[unique warren]

I pray that they get rid of the silly hardmode lock for slime

[rich crystal]

Wym?

[radiant flower]

u mean not being able to fight it after ml?

[unique warren]

Yeah I kinda get it but it's also silly

[mystic eagle]

That would defeat the point of it being an optional superboss

[rich crystal]

I think it’s a good because it’s supposed to be a super boss technically isn’t it?

And it gives OP stuff

[unique warren]

It also means that you're basically entirely missing the point of the mod if you don't beat it before ML

[rich crystal]

I accidentally summoned moonlord at my house and I had the summon from it and it killed it when I had not even half an arena

[rich crystal]

That’s the point though to beat it before moonlord, but I do think they should unlock it maybe post calamitas honestly

Or something

[dusk bronze]

i just searched their name in patreon server and literally nothing

0 results

[rich crystal]

Just for the fun of it

Actually nah

Keep it pre moonlord

[unique warren]

Yeah like I'd be fine if the stuff wasn't entirely unobtainable

[royal garnet]

if sso isn't going to happen in the near future of updates is the content in it scrapped?

[dusk bronze]

no

just delayed

[wise bolt]

norp

[rich crystal]

Sso?

[unique warren]

Not like it's an actual superboss in the correct terminology anyways

[wise bolt]

sunkensea overhual

[dusk bronze]

hello john worm

[unique warren]

Though that doesn't even exist in a terraria mod yet to my knowledge

[wide wadi]

no one like sunken slop overhaul

[mystic eagle]

What is that "terminology" for it then?

[wide wadi]

all my homies like brain strom

[lyric trellis]

Oh my gosh this guy is literally named Sarcosuchus

[wise bolt]

waiting 4 astral..

[rich crystal]

I think it’s fair for it being only pre moonlord cause the drops are insanely good

[polar tide]

chews on you

[dusk bronze]

is that supposed to mean something

[wise bolt]

[scream

[polar tide]

:)

[mystic eagle]

Also Post Exos

[wise bolt]

:[]

[noble stirrup]

The astral is a vibe

[rich crystal]

If you really don’t want the lock there is most likely a mod to unlock it

In all honesty

[exotic axle]

Waiting 4…

[lyric trellis]

Ancient giant crocodile (also searching their name here shows nothing but mentions of the croc)

[dusk bronze]

ic

[wise bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021557465776672799/1468526548415021138/SPOILER_Deusfastest.gif

[rich crystal]

Do you guys believe there should be more boss structures? Like how Infernum has structures for Providence

I think it would be cool

Integrating the bosses into the world

[lyric trellis]

@wispy blade do you still have that donor users list (I think it was you)

[rich crystal]

Are they ever gonna add more structures for the bosses or do they not know?

[noble stirrup]

I think boss structures are cool, but should be relatively rare and be somewhat special.

[dusk bronze]

there will at least be a ravager cathedral

[rich crystal]

I think it depends on the boss, like I think DoG probably deserves one honestly

I’m hoping this rework makes DoG enjoyable

[polar tide]

dog is getting an entire subworld lol

[rich crystal]

I thought that wasn’t actually happening?

[wise bolt]

greedy ass bitch

[polar tide]

what

[dusk bronze]

best boss i've ever played

[urban cloak]

nah we're still doing it

[polar tide]

why would that not be happening

[dusk bronze]

..why

[urban cloak]

will just be much later down da line

[rich crystal]

I was misinformed 💔

[wise bolt]

yknow what yeha sure lets scrap the distoriton on a whim

[rich crystal]

My faulltttttt

[urban cloak]

scrapping astral rework then

[polar tide]

if you guys did this i would undergo the transformation.

[urban cloak]

an eye for an eye

muahahahah

[wise bolt]

this i can live with..

[urban cloak]

damn!

[rich crystal]

Rework hell instead fr

[wise bolt]

metamorphosis

[noble stirrup]

I think the consideration between a boss having a pre-generated structure, having a subworld, a boss box, or nothing at all should be just that... a consideration on a boss-by-boss basis, yeah~

[urban cloak]

my plan foiled

[wispy blade]

technically it is any mod but sure i can get it

[dusk bronze]

fake fan smh my head

[rich crystal]

Rework the overworld

Honestly just rework the whole game, make it 3d like that one mod that has a 3d boss like dark souls

[wise bolt]

i think its rly funny because people keep saying "tofu you can finally make the astral good" and im like. brother ive just been drawing the astral as it is. i like it like that

[polar tide]

LMAO

[noble stirrup]

A pre-generated structure makes you go "ooh, what is this?", it's got an entire vibe to it

[urban cloak]

I assumed you were number one astral biome fan cause of that lmfao

[wise bolt]

ive just been taping on bits and bobs of information i made up to make it seem like it works and functions

[rich crystal]

When’re you guys adding a horror boss

[noble stirrup]

Ravager lol

[hasty tangle]

thats called PW

[dusk bronze]

hive mind

[polar tide]

there are no plans to add your mom to calamity

[rich crystal]

😭 everyone saying different things

[wise bolt]

LFMA

[rich crystal]

Dang it she was excited for that

Come on bro why spoil her happiness

This is YOUR fault

[noble stirrup]

If you added my mom to calamity, I'd be too scared to play it

[summer shore]

Ravager is body horror worm is ocean horror hive mind is psychological horror

[unique warren]

In an RPG, it means an optional boss that is not the final boss, and whose purpose is to be challenging without actually giving a reward. The closest thing imo to it would be boss rush.

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/glorpleave-glorp-leave-cat-ufo-gif-18232033818824651195

[wise bolt]

lets play calamity with mama

[rich crystal]

Bro looks just like a uncooked hamburger

Also why is sans there

[fierce nebula]

🎶 🎷🐛

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-piglet-playtime-play-around-gif-16681731

[wise bolt]

your momma an uncooked hamburger

[dusk bronze]

[noble stirrup]

Body horror is best horror (imo)

[rich crystal]

What the skib bro

[dusk bronze]

perfs is body horror 2

[wise bolt]

everyone we gotta jump meep rn

[noble stirrup]

Flesh cave crimson

[unique warren]

Perhaps Terraria Superbosses have taken on a definition of their own, which is fine

[rich crystal]

What did I do 😭 😭

[unique warren]

It's just not the same thing

[wise bolt]

@polar tide go my scarab

[wise bolt]

(nothin im shitting around LOL

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-jump-im-here-say-what-cat-gif-17238244

[fathom girder]

That's a thing they're doing already,

[polar tide]

Die!

[fathom girder]

[,]

[noble stirrup]

hahah

[wise bolt]

your momma is mid

[dusty tinsel]

Everyone jump astrum deus for saying everyone jump a random user

[fierce nebula]

You’re getting banned buddy

[fathom girder]

Everyone jump rayse because I won't wanna jump tofu

[polar tide]

jumping you for suggesting i jump tofu

[dusty tinsel]

It's an order

[rich crystal]

Nah she’s actually short

[wise bolt]

they did this bto me in the cata disc

[rich crystal]

Can I help jump Meep

[polar tide]

get janice

[wise bolt]

jump meep with us bro

[rich crystal]

Alright bro I’ll get his arms

[dusty tinsel]

Meep clones

[rich crystal]

Do you think if I reported this to discord you’d get banned

[wise bolt]

the great culling

[wise bolt]

idk maybe

[rich crystal]

Ok say your goodbyes ❤️ ❤️

[unique warren]

I would honestly be very interested in seeing a proper Terraria superboss, are the basecal ones gonna be proper superbosses or more like WotG ones?

[wise bolt]

[noble stirrup]

Isn't the one worm boss in the abyssal depths a superboss?

[dusty tinsel]

I will vouch for tofu and say it was perfectly reasonable. Tofu just needs to pull out an uno reverse card and watch as discord bans itself

[dusk bronze]

no

not even a regular boss

[rich crystal]

I don’t even think he’s a boss

Just a worm

Stupid worm

[urban cloak]

"hidden boss" or somethihg

[unique warren]

Previously but not anymore iirc

[urban cloak]

pw is in a weird spot

[dusty tinsel]

Isn't the worm becoming a boss soon

[unique warren]

Scal also used to be one but it really didn't fit the description at ALL

[dusty tinsel]

A regular one

[rich crystal]

We should be able to catch bro with a net and use him as bait for Yharim

[noble stirrup]

lul

[wise bolt]

i sgree

[grave rock]

Hihi :)

[fathom girder]

having a hitcap with way more difficult patterns back when she first got her arena was rather superbossy

[rich crystal]

Easy way to make bro relevant

[grave rock]

Im so sleepy

[unique warren]

That isn't what a superboss really means though

[exotic axle]

Ts is tuff

[unique warren]

That just makes her a hard boss, which is not what superboss means

[noble stirrup]

To me, a superboss is an optional boss that is reasonably outside of the current difficulty curve from where you can first fight it, and may or may not grant rewards (most of the superbosses I think of from other RPGs give a reward, but one that's niche or mediocre, more of a trophy to say "hey, you did it")

[rich crystal]

What makes a super boss?

[fathom girder]

uh huh

[dusty tinsel]

Obviously PW should have the smallest hitbox in the game making it impossible to hit on a regular basis

[grave rock]

Can brainstorm add a new bed

[unique warren]

I cannot personally think of any superbosses from RPGs that give rewards but as long as the reward is mostly just beating the boss with little progressive upgrades, I absolutely agree with this definition

[rich crystal]

So when’re we gonna get a worm boss that is in hardmode

[polar tide]

"you're a boss alright, just not a super one"
"yeah? what's the difference?"
"PRESENTATION!!!"

[rich crystal]

A good worm boss*

[fathom girder]

true melee :

[keen zodiac]

any form of seeking attacks

[tribal isle]

dog is in the game idk what u mean

[rich crystal]

Im gonna dog on your face

[grave rock]

Astrageldon is the best example of a good superboss

[rich crystal]

I agree for real

What’s another good super boss?

[unique warren]

For the definition terraria has adopted for the term, yeah probably

[polar tide]

in the context of terraria superboss is a completely meaningless term to me

[unique warren]

For the original defintion, I think boss rush is genuinely the closest

[noble stirrup]

I think I agree with someone earlier who said that astrageldon's rewards are a bit too good.. but I also kind of think you've earned them if you defeat astrageldon... because if you can beat that, you can beat the next few normal bosses, for sure

[mystic eagle]

Seraphic Ceratinia

[rich crystal]

Never heard of it

[grave rock]

Lowkey I agree

[unique warren]

Actually, how much of a reward do you get from the two WotG superbosses?

[mystic eagle]

You didn't specifiy Terraria superboss

[unique warren]

[rich crystal]

Good point

[grave rock]

I also am like one of the people who like that Astrageldon gets locked out after Moon Lord dies

[rich crystal]

Another good super boss is Xion from KH3 fr fr

[grave rock]

Literaly just cosmetic stuff

[unique warren]

Thoughts on Ruby and Emerald Weapon?

[grave rock]

And for-fun junk

[unique warren]

Ah, I see, I suppose they do count then

Though idk, infinite flight wings...?

[rich crystal]

I honestly agree with you but I do believe maybe they should nerf the stuff a little

[noble stirrup]

It's been too long since I played the OG FF7 to remember what they're even like to fight. Hit me up again when the 3rd remake game comes out and they're fightable there lol

[rich crystal]

Cause you can use it till pre dog in all fairness

If you really wanted too

If you were stubborn enough

And were lazy

[grave rock]

The best weapon u get if u nohit Astrageldon and I think if u can nohit it, it's not like u were gonna struggle with pre DoG anyway

[rich crystal]

Yea, I actually want to try no hitting Astrageldon during brainstorm

We’ll see how that goes

I’ve never no hit a boss

[deft lily]

how updateious

[rich crystal]

On purpose

[noble stirrup]

Low key, boss trophies should be a garaunteed drop if you no-hit it (if that's possible)

[rich crystal]

I’m also gonna use a lot less quality of life mods cause it does make the game more of a boss rush instead of taking breaks between bosses and grinding or building

Example is right here

[tropic jolt]

😭

[noble stirrup]

Arena World

[rich crystal]

I’m gonna get rid of all my insta stuff 😭

It may suck but it’s needed

[rich crystal]

I have a problem cause I do that in every calamity world

I’ve been using less recently though

A lot but still less platforms

My sky is always an arena cause it’s just easy to make

But I won’t do it next playthrough and if I do I’m gonna delete the world and restart

I’m going to hold myself to it this time fr

[grave rock]

My arenas are hand made n there also lowkey ass

[misty wren]

theres an instakill beam from aoe iirc but other than that only vanity

[grave rock]

But they work

[rich crystal]

Better than Sky arena 😭 and at some point too many platforms are a problem

[noble stirrup]

Hold on, let me see if I can't get a snap of my old arena I made. I used the same arena for most of the fights from mid-pre moonlord to end game

[grave rock]

The only big arena ive ever made was for exos

[rich crystal]

I downloaded a mod for insta platform fall through 😭 which is kinda cheating

Cause I had so many platforms

[misty wren]

not really

just saves time

[summer shore]

Real ones use hooks and tracks

[misty wren]

because you can already do that in vanilla you just need a hammer and a whole lot of time

[summer shore]

Instead of hammering

[limpid grail]

it's a single player game you bought with your own money

[distant raft]

and to put up with jank

[limpid grail]

there is no "cheating"

[versed heart]

If CV gets an event, I could see it becoming a miniboss
I also don't know if that's even a good idea

[distant raft]

hammered platforms are inconsistent

[limpid grail]

do what you want

[summer shore]

Cv itself would be the miniboss

[grave rock]

Who would bother hammering platforms

[rich crystal]

Yea I find too many QoL mods makes the game go by too fast and I know from experience lol

That’s why I’m saying for me it kinda is

[limpid grail]

oh, same

[misty wren]

i like using hammered platforms they're very nice but god damn they suck

[limpid grail]

i ahrdly use anything like that

[versed heart]

Unless you like, do speed running, multiplayer (unless the other players are fine with it), or some sort of competition

[distant raft]

you can just fall through while walking on them or just ignore them even when not holding down

[limpid grail]

but there's also nothing wrong with wanting to

[summer shore]

Pretty sure rebingo wanted to turn cv and a few other bosses into minibosses

[rich crystal]

Yea of course there’s not, I’m not gonna hate on anyone who does cause it’s a single player game, but me personally it’s a bad habit I want to break

[grave rock]

Sentinels n guardians do give mini boss vibes

[misty wren]

even in multiplayer cheating is just a consensus thing

[versed heart]

Yup

[rich crystal]

It all goes down to personal preference

Except in speed running of course at that point there is cheating

[pale silo]

(or no hitting)

[blazing field]

ngl ur true

cuz like, with the awy terraria progression is structured, superbosses arent rly meaningfully different from. anything else

theyre just hard bosses

[polar tide]

yeah

[blazing field]

the only boss ive seen that actually makes sense to me as a superboss is

astralgeldon

[unique warren]

Dawg what

[blazing field]

cuz its a optional boss in late hardmode thats way harder than any late hardmode bosses

[blazing field]

catalyst astralgel

[unique warren]

That is probably the one that's less of a superboss than others

[blazing field]

not vanilla

[unique warren]

Yes I am aware but it gives absurd rewards

[blazing field]

What abt rewards makes it not a superboss

i mean i suppose there isnt a single definition of superboss its kinda js whatever you want it to be but

[unique warren]

Okay I do need to remind myself more often that terraria superbosses are not the same as rpg ones

[blazing field]

Unlike say

xeroc or noxus

which are cal's planned "superbosses"

[noble stirrup]

AStrageldon sort of becomes an alternate progression option because of its rewards. but I think aside from the "reward" definition, astrageldon is in every other way a "superboss"

[blazing field]

it's not like, at the end of the game, instead being in late hardmode

and

[limpid grail]

personally i think superboss is a term thrown around a bit too lightly

[blazing field]

compared to other late hardmode bosses, it is way harder

[deft lily]

it is

[blazing field]

and designed that way intentionally

[unique warren]

Yeah that is the only issue

[blazing field]

It is also not required for progression

And you have to go out of your way to fight it

[grave rock]

Whats the exo tank

[unique warren]

It has insane rewards and that does go against what a superboss is in the classic term

[fierce nebula]

It’s an exo tank

[limpid grail]

and yeah i agree that astrageldon is the best qualifier for a terraria superboss

[blazing field]

So i think by all means it fits th edefinition of superboss better than xeroc and noxus cuz those are effectively just final bosses id say

[fierce nebula]

Like

[grave rock]

I like the idea of a superboss that isnt at the end of progression a lot ngl

[deft lily]

hot take i think the term "super boss" is just used by people to boost their own ego when talking like "im able to kill a SUPER boss. Im a TRUE calamity player".

[blazing field]

The only part it's not fitting in is the rewards yeah cuz i forgot superbosses usually dont do that

[unique warren]

Being before a final boss is not a requiremement for a superboss I believe

[grave rock]

I disagree

[blazing field]

superbosses generally arent at the end of progression most of the time

[blazing field]

its not necessarily, but

i think superbosses work better as superbosses if theyre not

[fierce nebula]

King slime is a superboss

[blazing field]

cuz then they actually have, something to compare against and go "wow this is way harder than the difficulty at htis level!"

[grave rock]

nighttime provi is a superboss

[deft lily]

why is that

[noble stirrup]

It tends to be, because a lot of old RPGs just end after the final boss, so you can't really have a boss after

[unique warren]

That is true

[grim pecan]

the merchant from bravely default is probably one of my favorite superbosses

love that fight

[unique warren]

...When is boss rush gonna be when this mod is "done"

[grave rock]

Daytime provi is a superboss

[blazing field]

im a superboss

youre a superboss

[fierce nebula]

Grubby is a superboss

[blazing field]

hes a superboss

are ther eany other superbosses i should know about

[deft lily]

and when everyone is super

[limpid grail]

probably after yharim

[deft lily]

no one will be

[unique warren]

Hm, alright

[noble stirrup]

Duke Fishron (maybe unironically) is a super boss

[grave rock]

Difficulty that changes nothing except refer to bosses as SUPER bosses

[unique warren]

Yeah I don't think Terraria has proper superbosses yet if being before the final boss is smth that needs to be the case

[fierce nebula]

❌

[deft lily]

cant wait for calamity to add SUPER hardmode

🙏

[unique warren]

Too many rewards

[fierce nebula]

Super nintendo type naming scheme

[unique warren]

But it does fit it in some ways

[blazing field]

WRONG! torch god.

[deft lily]

and very hardmode of course

[blazing field]

has 1 (one) reward that isn't super relevant for most players. can be fought literalyl at any point of the game. hardest boss of all time in any game ever

[unique warren]

lol

[urban cloak]

thought you were underwater and I was looking at some weird fucked up urchin ngl

[deft lily]

LOL?

[blazing field]

yep thats what it is

[main estuary]

and it has a banger soundtrack in both vanilla and calamity w/ vcmm

[unique warren]

Yeah honestly the best competitor for superboss might be old primordial wyrm

But it has some reward so

[deft lily]

[fierce nebula]

Jared

[deft lily]

millions upon millions must download and listen to vcmm

[grave rock]

I don't think reward should be the deciding factor in considering something a superboss tbf

[deft lily]

-John vcmm

[unique warren]

I mean, for terraria ones maybe

[fierce nebula]

Brainstorm will be delayed

Nothing ever happens

[unique warren]

RPG bosses, kind of is

[fierce nebula]

Billions must not play brainstorm

[grave rock]

Astrageldon is less of a superboss than Torch God?

[main estuary]

isn't arsenal t1 getting respriteworked in brainstorm?

[pale silo]

the term "super boss" is more referring to any boss that is a intended to be fought a few tiers below what its stats and/or difficulty in patterns is meant for

[cunning sequoia]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405614811500253306/1454181868285988980/waddling.gif

[unique warren]

The thing is that torch god isn't hard

[wise bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336845782296297604/1468476587430248541/worm_activity.gif

[deft lily]

CREATURE

[cunning sequoia]

waorm

[deft lily]

ANOTHER CREATURE

[fierce nebula]

✅ I think

[wise bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021557465776672799/1468525715925499946/Deusfaster.gif

[unique warren]

So just not really even the same thing atp

[grave rock]

Torch God at the beginning of the game fucks u up lowkey

[unique warren]

Like they're moderately similar

[pale silo]

yeah basically

[unique warren]

Great

[deft lily]

hi alex

[pale silo]

old wyrm tho was yeah

[polar tide]

i think this whole discussion is just reinforcing my viewpoint that in terraria superboss is a meaningless term

hello

[pale silo]

but current wyrm is yharon tier i think?

[deft lily]

It is yeh

imo

[main estuary]

i probably won't be taking a shot at the t1 arsenal summoner weapon

[pale silo]

post yharon maybe

[wise bolt]

i was gonna say what the hell constitutes a superboss lfmao

[grave rock]

Superboss is vibes based

[unique warren]

Yeah it's like, a pretty rigid term in JRPG spaces and it just fuckin isn't for Terraria

[fierce nebula]

In infernum

[pale silo]

its roughly that

[pale silo]

even in base cal it is

[cunning sequoia]

superboss is a boss thats super

insert syndrome quote

[wise bolt]

your mommas super

[deft lily]

Just a nothing burger of a term used by folks who most of the time.. drk what they are talking about

[pale silo]

it has same rough stats as scal and exos

[cunning sequoia]

and when everyone's soup...

[pale silo]

if fought in t4 abyss

[polar tide]

megamind quote

[unique warren]

Do you mean Megamind or am I not thinking of the right quote

[fierce nebula]

I was told it’s postgame

[pale silo]

yes and no

[grave rock]

Astrageldon? Superboss
Jared? Secret boss
Boss Rush? Dogshit

[cunning sequoia]

no thats a syndrome quote

[pale silo]

normally it is fought post game yes

[polar tide]

theres a megamind quote and a syndrome quote about being super

[wise bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021557465776672799/1468526548415021138/SPOILER_Deusfastest.gif

[unique warren]

I must be thinking of the wrong quote

[deft lily]

oh youre a boss alright

[polar tide]

megamind quote

[deft lily]

Just not a super one

[cunning sequoia]

"when everyone's super, no one will be" is syndrome

[pale silo]

but it is by stat and attack pattern wise, same tier as scal and exo

[unique warren]

Ahhh yeah got it

[grave rock]

Astrageldon's PRESENTATION!!! makes it earn superboss title imo

[polar tide]

you know what sure i'll accept this

[mystic eagle]

The Endless now

[deft lily]

fair

[fierce nebula]

If it’s supposed to be postgame then it is

[polar tide]

legit go with megamind logic for definition of superboss i'll accept it

[unique warren]

Mutant superboss now

[pale silo]

ehhhhh

[unique warren]

Okay that would actually work thematically

[pale silo]

slime by definition also isnt a super boss then

[mystic eagle]

I'll go with the Xenoblade 3 definition (enemies that are literally just marked as Superbosses ingame)

[pale silo]

its intended for pre ml

but its stats are more like prov tier

[unique warren]

Superbosses have an intended time to fight them, every single boss ever does

[pale silo]

somewhat

[mystic eagle]

The best definition for Superboss is the one the game gives them

[grave rock]

You could argue for all three siblings to have superboss title lowkey

[unique warren]

But it's about them being harder than other stuff

[unique warren]

Maybe Abom too but devi?

[lapis oak]

fucking 1000 messages wtf

I went off for 2 hours to clean my PC

[grave rock]

Devi is an Astrageldon deal trust

[lapis oak]

2 hours only

[unique warren]

lol

[pale silo]

tbf an update is releasing soon

[unique warren]

We had a chat about superbosses

It was informative indeed

[grave rock]

Brain rework is the new superbos

[fierce nebula]

Trove 2 is a superboss

🫧 🐠

[pale silo]

tbh jared (full power) is 100% a super boss

when he has his 90% dr i mean

in gfb

[fierce nebula]

Jared vs grubby

Battle of the superbosses

[vocal kelp]

Why r u people talking about superbosses as if they're a real thing and not an arbitrary title rpgs give their awesome post game secret bosses

[grave rock]

This Calamity UPDATE Turns The Brain of Cthulhu Into A Superboss!!!!

[pale silo]

because "secret" bosses arent super bosses

is jevil a super boss?

no

[distant raft]

because rpgs tend to not have postgames

[vocal kelp]

both of these things rely on not reading our message at all

[grave rock]

Hello guys in todays video we will be cjecking out the new Brainstorm update for Calamity and honestly? Its looking kinda crazy

[pale silo]

no they definitely do

[fierce nebula]

❌

[vocal kelp]

Clearly we're not talking about jevil and clearly we're talking about rpgs that do

[pale silo]

secret boss doesnt mean super boss

you are saying it does

[fierce nebula]

What the fuck is a superboss

[polar tide]

jevil mentioned [starts rotating at high speeds]

[grave rock]

As a sidenote 99% of my viewers arent subscribed so please do its free and you can unsubscribe at any time

[vocal kelp]

Did you read the rest of the message

[fierce nebula]

Everyone has a different definition

[grave rock]

Megamind definition

[pale silo]

the term "super boss" is more referring to any boss that is a intended to be fought a few tiers below what its stats and/or difficulty in patterns is meant for - my personal definition

for any game

rpg or otherwise

[fierce nebula]

Ok but that’s not a standardized definition

[pale silo]

its because there is no standardized definition because its so lax

it is normally community based

[grave rock]

The Roaring Knight is a superboss?

[pale silo]

id say so yeah

[fierce nebula]

If there’s no set definition then calling something a superboss because it’s cool is perfectly reasonable

[proper tendon]

Did i hear it correctly? Is the massive update finally dropping in 2 days?

[pale silo]

im not saying there is no definition

everyone can agree a super boss needs to be strong enough

[proper tendon]

fuck yes finally

[pale silo]

yknow?

its just really hard to determin "what is strong enough"

[grave rock]

Forgotten Evils King Slime is a Superboss?

[pale silo]

as its highly context based

slime is a big example there actually

[fierce nebula]

Ok but people bring up strong bosses and suddenly there’s another debate over whether they are “superbosses” based off of people’s own idea of what it should be

[pale silo]

or the xenoblade level 100+ "super bosses"

[hollow harness]

fluid concepts in video jame theory

[pale silo]

yeah basically

[grave rock]

If the creator says its a superboss its a superboss

Thumbs up

[hollow harness]

yea that's pretty much it

[pale silo]

thats the only 100% way to determine one yeah

[grave rock]

My new grubby ai boss is a superboss and youre gonna LIKE IT

[fierce nebula]

This fish is a superboss 🫧 🐠

[pale silo]

but in xenoblades case, that wasnt creator made till after the first game was released

afaia the second game states them as super bosses?

but first game didnt

im pretty sure thats actually where the term came from thinking ab it

[real crown]

now that I'm looking at it, crystyl crusher beam needs a resprite

I hope it gets one sometime

[pale silo]

cant think of a game beforehand that ever had the term super boss said in, community or otherwise

[unique warren]

Where superboss came from? I’m pretty sure the term predates it by a lot

Oh you mean like properly said in game

[pale silo]

yeah

im actually very unsure on where it came from

[grave rock]

Fsr i thought it came from the mario rpgs

[unique warren]

It’s a fan-coined term that is like

[pale silo]

no that makes sense

[unique warren]

90s at the latest

[pale silo]

final fantasy go brrrr

[unique warren]

Yeah lol

[fierce nebula]

Do they say bonetail is a superboss😭

[pale silo]

bonetail isnt one ima be real

[fierce nebula]

Easier than the final boss

[pale silo]

even when fighting her early, shes easy

[fierce nebula]

And the final boss is easy

[grave rock]

I gotta play Superstar Saga

[fierce nebula]

The last 10 floors of the pit are 1000x harder than the boss

[kindred night]

my spirit animal is a puffercat

[pale silo]

their super guard timing is actually so hard

[grave geyser]

thought this was about bug fables for a moment for some reason

[cunning sequoia]

mush is a superboss tho

if you fight him when he's unlocked he will kick your ass

also the final master in 64

[pale silo]

Tbh even when you fight him before bowser he'd kick your ass

If you can't block properly he will otk you without defensive badges

[spiral niche]

upcoming brain rework looks fire af

[pale silo]

Absolutely

Can't wait to see it

[spiral niche]

i'm also wondering if the arena in the trailer is something they just built for the trailer, or if it'll be a worldgen thing (like the plantera arena)

[lapis oak]

built for trailer

[spiral niche]

sad

i am having sadness at this revelation

[grave geyser]

doesnt the master get like hyper screwed over by zap tap

[west trout]

Thw update is in 2 days right? How many days do yall think it will take for the other addons to become compatible again?

[dusk bronze]

infernum will update immediately

the others idk

but please do at least one playthrough without addons

[west trout]

Tbh i haven't yet played calamity so maybe that is something i should do

[dusk bronze]

yeah, regular 2.1 as ur first experience will be peam

[unique warren]

DLC will as well, no clue on WotG

[west trout]

Btw ive been mostly trying to stay blind to the content that is in calamity but i saw a reel about some new ores that are added to the game. I have no idea when or where i could find them didn't even waiting to hear their names but im curious

[fierce nebula]

Underground

[dusk bronze]

there's no new ores in 2.1

[unique warren]

I believe they mean in the mod in general

[cunning sequoia]

there's post-boss messages in chat telling you where they appear

[pale silo]

also gets hyper screwed over by peril strats with multibounce. but those arent really intended in the "balancing" of the game

[grave geyser]

everything gets screwed over by peril strats

[pale silo]

yup

[west trout]

Like if i do wanna do a blind playthrough what do yall think would be best practice? Just put everything in the recipe browser hoping it shows me something that i can make immediately m

[fierce nebula]

Ttyd is insanely easy to exploit

[pale silo]

this is reg 64

when it was even more unbalanced

[fierce nebula]

Oh

[dusk bronze]

just ask the guide about every material you don't recognize

and recipe browser is helpful yeah

[grave geyser]

in fact the same would be true in bug fables if not for the existence of even more broken strategies

[west trout]

Isn't recipe browser superior since u can click on the materials too?

[fierce nebula]

Then there’s the most balanced paper mario game

Super paper mario

[west trout]

Why would i not use it if im already playing modded

[dusk bronze]

idk most of it doesn't work for me

never has

[pale silo]

you mean the one you can literally one shot anything?

[fierce nebula]

Yes

[west trout]

Like the mod just doesn't work for u?

[grave geyser]

(and also the fact that its difficult to consistently oneturn most fights but shh)

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[fierce nebula]

The one where bowser does double damage and has a long range fire attack

[dusk bronze]

only the recipe lookup feature works

[west trout]

That's sad

[dusk bronze]

basically nothing else

[west trout]

What else is there?

[dusk bronze]

supposedly a lot of stuff

[west trout]

I see

Tho are most weapons that are usually used crafted or gotten as drops from boss?

Cuz those would be the easiest to find

[dusk bronze]

most bosses drop a lot of weapons

but there's definitely way more crafted ones

[turbid latch]

Will they show the list of changes?

[dusk bronze]

especially crafted upgrades

[dusk bronze]

yeah there's a wiki page for every update

ever

[west trout]

Has the loot table for vanilla bosses also changed? (Im guessing it has)

[kindred night]

2.1 update changelog
> Added Puffercat

[dusk bronze]

most of them can just drop 1 extra item if that

[turbid latch]

No. I mean before the update is released

[dusk bronze]

#changelogs

(doesn't include literally everything but the vast majority)

[west trout]

So only one extra item has been added to each? That doesn't sound right

[fierce nebula]

The wiki page for the update when it releases will have significantly more

[west trout]

Do they drop some other materials?

[dusk bronze]

roughly

[west trout]

Yk what im asking way too much

[turbid latch]

Yomayo, I wish I could find the beginning. Is it on Wiki too?

[dusk bronze]

not yet

[west trout]

Amma just spoils myself lol out of curiosity

[dusk bronze]

wiki only has stuff in the game or stuff that's been in the game

[grave geyser]

I mean lore items exist so really its minimum one usually 2 or more

[dusk bronze]

lore items don't count

[boreal pewter]

To be specific:

[west trout]

Will mods like recipe browser work on the new update?

[fierce nebula]

Yeeessss

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[west trout]

What about something like rediance or whatever that mod was called which changed the world gen

[grave geyser]

ok so if lore items dont count we have
ks - 2
eoc - 2
eow and boc - 0
qb - 2
deer - 0
skele - 1
wof - 8
qs - 2
twin - 1
dest and prime - 0
plant - 4
golem - 2
empress - 0
duke - 2
cultist - 0
ml - 2

[fierce nebula]

Worldgen changing mods that support calamity should work fine probably maybe

[dusk bronze]

i don't recommend using those yet

[grave geyser]

thats
7 with 0
2 with 1
6 with 2
and then plant and wof

[main falcon]

2 days left

i always wonder whats happening developer side during days like this

[west trout]

Also not related to the calamity specifically but does the alchemist when spawned sell all the potions from the beginning?

Or will i need to collect potions before he sells

[main falcon]

are they waiting like most players and preparing for feedback

or just final touches in particles and stuff

[west trout]

Alot of new items for wof

[grave geyser]

some of them should realistically be moved

[unique warren]

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a dev that's doing some wiki work on private pages tbh?

[grave geyser]

like black hawk should just be like a cobalt craft or smth

[west trout]

How hard will the eoc fight be on death mode?

[misty wren]

yuh is doing that iirc

didnt get any changes iirc so should be identical

[west trout]

Compared to vanilla

[grave geyser]

(also bear in mind that 8 includes the 2 biome keys it can drop bc of calamity)

[misty wren]

oh compared to vanilla

a bit harder

[thorny fjord]

Yuh does it as changes are made so it doesn't need to be all done at once

[unique warren]

Quite intelligent, yes

[thorny fjord]

Cit too iirc

[main falcon]

yeah but not as efficient in a way

[misty wren]

more efficient

[grave geyser]

like why the hell is carnage still a wof drop please just make it blood moon fishing or something

[misty wren]

its not less efficient to do things in a steady stream than it is to do them in bulk

[grave geyser]

or just shoot it thats also an option

[dusk bronze]

wait true

[thorny fjord]

Also finding them in all the commits would be 💀

[main falcon]

yeah but we have seen changes on top of changes before

[misty wren]

then its changed again

simple as

[main falcon]

but its mostly just an observation

[misty wren]

also that

doesnt end up changing mostly anything

[grave geyser]

like realistically I think blast barrel the emblem and hermits box are the only ones that should be dropped by wof

[shell sapphire]

[misty wren]

if yuh does them in bulk and then theres a change after that bulk the log still has to be changed again

[distant raft]

what the hell would drop wof lore item then

[misty wren]

hungries

clearly

[grave geyser]

true....

[distant raft]

true!

but dont change the condition for it to stop dropping

[grave geyser]

make anahita drop levi lore and levi drop anahita lore

[distant raft]

so that every hungry killed before you beat wof drops a lore item

[grim pecan]

every hardmode enemy

[main falcon]

im surprised that the captain set is just a defence upgrasde to angler set

[thorny fjord]

Infinite trophies

[molten grove]

the 100% wiki changelog is constantly updated as changes are added
otherwise idt theres any wiki prep

[distant raft]

if youre willing to throw them into the side of shimmer one by one since they dont stack

[main falcon]

i thougth that some how it would increase fishing power by another 10 and maybe an stronger enemy repellance

but i guess angler is alredy good enough at that

[spark kiln]

meowthrower is nice as a drop imo

[thorny fjord]

I'm also pretty sad the new sets are just minor defense upgrades yeah. And the mining one doesn't even use the mining helmet upgrade which is pretty miserable

Like at least make it use ultrabright

[grave geyser]

it kinda ruins the symmetry

with one weapon per damage type

clearly this means meowthrower should be made classless

[main falcon]

ultrabrigth still gives set bonus when worn

[frail owl]

how did the meowthrower get conceived anyways?

[grim pecan]

cat

[dusk bronze]

drugs

[molten grove]

not like any other boss strictly adheres to symmetrical weapon pools rly

[grave geyser]

I mean I would personally be more than down to just fucking remove meowthrower but I know people dont want to kill the funny cat weapon so

[main falcon]

but i guess with mining makes sense becase it was strong enough as it is

[frail owl]

i could only think of it as a parallel to meowmere or some shit

[grave geyser]

give moon lord a second rogue drop I beg

[frail owl]

hi there xzier

[molten grove]

planned

[main falcon]

but angler is just kinda middling compared to other fishing boosts

[grave geyser]

🥳

[molten grove]

2033

[main falcon]

miner set gives the biggest mining boost while angler is not the best fishing boost

[vocal kelp]

just make luminite kunais non consumbale and an actual weapona nd let him drop it clearly obviously

[main falcon]

thats why im more disapointed in captain set than prospector

[grave geyser]

I mean deer sorta does if we ignore rogues existence

[pale silo]

(theyre alr becoming non consumable)

[thorny fjord]

Yes but the mythril upgrade requires the normal helmet

[vocal kelp]

well thats one less work

[pale silo]

afaia all consumable rogue weapons are

[grave geyser]

empress does if we only factor the basic drops

[vocal kelp]

why is the guitar a rare drop anyway

what were they cooking

[unique warren]

Which one?

[main falcon]

Well if the ultrabrigth helmet was in recipe it would lock the full prospector set post plantera I think

[unique warren]

There are like a million

[pale silo]

the axe?

[distant raft]

???

[vocal kelp]

theres only one guitar eol drops

[thorny fjord]

What?

[grave geyser]

same applies to ravager (donors and legendaries arnt real anyway)

[pale silo]

oh that one

[distant raft]

its preboss

[unique warren]

Oh, uh yeah is it even any good

[vocal kelp]

well ravager is calamity so its not really precedent

its okay

[vocal kelp]

but it gets outclassed immediatly by pillars and all that crap

so its not like itll see much use

[unique warren]

The Axe is very worth it tho

[main falcon]

I thought nigth vision helmet was a dungeon frop

[unique warren]

Maybe it doesn't compare in cal but like

[main falcon]

Apolohi3s

[unique warren]

Damn, that thing is sweet in vanilla

[frail owl]

apolocheese

[main falcon]

Indeed

[grave geyser]

queen bee sorta used to if we play under the assumption that summoner is legally not real prior to 1.2.4

[main falcon]

I guess any mod can fix personal dissatisfaction with the upgraded set in the future

But i dont think it should be calamity honestly

[unique warren]

I mean, I think it's fine if they just change stats

[main falcon]

I can see a small mod in the workshop in the future called better set upgrade in the future

[main falcon]

I think its fine in prospector but sad in captain

[grave geyser]

after cals changes to berserker glove anything goes honestly

[cobalt wharf]

it’s pretty bad

[unique warren]

Nah I mean, I think it's fine if they change the stats for the armor in cal

[main falcon]

Ah

[cobalt wharf]

it has no hitbox until it reaches the autoaim location and the autoaim is based on where the target is when you shoot rather than where they end up

[main falcon]

I was just saying that cal could do it but I don't think its something to waste time on

[cobalt wharf]

you can’t correct it’s aim at all

[unique warren]

[grave geyser]

fascinating that a weapon can go from "pretty bad" to this with zero direct changes

[main falcon]

They can do whatever they want though

[frail owl]

hi there you're now someone i cannot deduce

[cobalt wharf]

well it deals overpowered damage it’s jus really annoying lo

also rare

[grave geyser]

you're also someone who cannot read about me's allegedly smh

[frail owl]

who is that in your pfp?

[stark eagle]

Oh... Chillet is a bump shield.

[frail owl]

hi there crit

[main falcon]

The simpler changes I can see given to the upgrades of the miner and angler sets are

[grave geyser]

hi

[unique warren]

I do think that Terraprisma change in cal is really really bad tho

[frail owl]

why are you fluffy?

[cobalt wharf]

chao

[frail owl]

and are you a cat?

[grave geyser]

long story

[main falcon]

Adding the ultrabrigth helmet to recipe and add it's effect

And rising the fishing boost to 30

[unique warren]

Just like... why do that lmfao

[misty wren]

nohit locked item

bad

[grave geyser]

not that I know of? its mostly a lot of sand in here more than anything else so unless fluffy has been living in an alley for the last who knows how long

[cobalt wharf]

good!

[unique warren]

Nohit locked item, fun!

[cobalt wharf]

skill expression good actually

homogenization bad

[main falcon]

I didn't notice any changes in my summoner playthrough

[unique warren]

It's a skill based "tier skip" only rivaled by pre-mech duke in Vanilla

[grave geyser]

I think I would be fine with it dropping at night if it was a 10% drop

[main falcon]

Well I always forget about empress and duke and do them post golem anyway

[unique warren]

Nah

[frail owl]

[rich crystal]

I don’t think the changes for empress matter too much anyways

[unique warren]

And that's fair!

[main falcon]

So it didn't affect me

They are optional after all

[rich crystal]

If you do empress pre golem and complain about balance I think that’s on you

[unique warren]

It's just kind of an issue of Terraprisma being in the Elemental Axe recipe and it just doesn't need to be

[rich crystal]

It’s meant to be post golem I’m pretty sure

[grave geyser]

empress pre golem is really not that hard tbh

[unique warren]

EoL is balanced around that time yes

[main falcon]

I don't like tier skipping beyond the goat of pre boss hellstone

[unique warren]

That's the most lame one

[main falcon]

Any other seems like to much work to me

[rich crystal]

But complaining about balance still doesn’t change anything

[grave geyser]

phm scourge is the goat sorry

[rich crystal]

Just don’t use it till you think it’s balanced

[unique warren]

Yeah that's the thing, a tier skip needs to have effort and skill involved for it to work

[main falcon]

You can do that

[unique warren]

Sorry who is

[rich crystal]

Pre boss hellstone has carried me at times I needed it

[grave geyser]

correct

[rich crystal]

Just saying in general not saying anyone is

But some people do

[grave geyser]

I would not be saying it if you couldnt

[unique warren]

Fair

[main falcon]

It's so good

[rich crystal]

Sad that base calamity got rid of that 💔

[main falcon]

Basically end of preharmode tier items is so good

[unique warren]

Like, pre-golem daytime empress is a BADASS tier skip that just doesn't exist anymore in cal

[main falcon]

What I haven't seen that

[rich crystal]

I thought they did?

[unique warren]

Like you can do it but there is 0 reason to

[main falcon]

I just did it on my melee playthrough

[rich crystal]

Or I’m thinking of Vanilla probably

[main falcon]

Yeah, calamity re added it

[rich crystal]

I know you can do it in Infernum

Ooh okay i thought just Infernum added it

[unique warren]

I really don't get the reasoning behind making Terraprisma a normal, boring item

[main falcon]

The most funny tier shift to me is the fire glove being post golem

Just funny

[grave geyser]

let more people use it

[rich crystal]

Yea make it accessible for people who have a skill issue

[grave geyser]

and also something something cals old philosophy about not gatekeeping items that was basically one big massive reaction to the malice incident

[rich crystal]

And if you really wanted you can still fight daytime you don’t have to do it nighttime

It’s not like they got rid of it

[cobalt wharf]

it’s basically just a lingering overreaction to malice locked items yeah

[unique warren]

Yeah, hope they get rid of that cause it's dope

[cobalt wharf]

same reason expert exclusives are added in normal mode

[unique warren]

[rich crystal]

I used to only play Classic mode and I can’t ever go back to it now

[flat canyon]

Guys if we start playing the mod with a friend, will it just update and our world + characters will continue on the new patch or..?

[rich crystal]

It’s just soo boring

[cobalt wharf]

it’s a summon weapon

it’s not like it plays different or anything

[unique warren]

I don't believe there are any worldgen changes so I think ur fine...?

[rich crystal]

I’d say wait for the update, cause of the world there’s gonna be different structures I think

Or they’re changing something

[grave geyser]

yeah but at the time 1.4 was still fairly new to most people and it was one of the big shiny new toys

[rich crystal]

I thought they were changing the draedon labs

[hard copper]

The update is in just 2 days, wait imo

[rich crystal]

Yea but it’s not new anymore it’s been over half a decade I think 💔

Oh gosh that’s actually crazy to say

[cobalt wharf]

the 1.4 philo that let them put it in in the first place is that if you want it so bad you get it post cultist or moon lord

by which point it takes like 30 seconds

[rich crystal]

Bro it’s been half a decade since 1.4

That’s insane

[flat canyon]

Well so if we want to play anyway.. we can just create a new world, no?

on patch day

And bring the characters over

[rich crystal]

Yea but I think it would be better to start from beginning cause it’s a big update, and a bunch of weapons are reworked

Better to start from beginning cause you can experience everything that is new you know?

But it’s up to you in the end

[cobalt wharf]

there is only one worldgen thing being added and it’s not necessary

you can stay on the same world

[grave geyser]

its more than 1 thing but yeah

[dense sundial]

oh yeah @unique warren you need not worry about prisma

[unique warren]

AYYYY

[cobalt wharf]

chudlets and boinguses now inhabit the shildong

[rich crystal]

Did calamity already get rid of whip stacking? I have no clue cause I never used it but I know people loved it

[distant raft]

whip stacking is half of why summoner is so dominant

[deft lily]

green needle.. friday!

[rich crystal]

Are they planning on getting rid of it since vanilla did?

[distant raft]

stacking just kscope and morning star gets you 1.48x damage

[distant raft]

iirc no

[dense sundial]

wouldn't cal's historical minion balance and multiplicative tag be a lot more than the other half

[unique warren]

Cal really needs to just reinstate buff/effect stacking when 1.4.5 releases but not tag stacking

[mystic eagle]

Saturday.

[dense sundial]

diminishing returns 🦐

[distant raft]

one mult tag is :(
two mult tags is :((((((((((

[unique warren]

Diminishing returns is aight too

[deft lily]

L

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🦐

[distant raft]

three mult tags makes the world implode

[cobalt wharf]

i’ll diminish ur returns

[dense sundial]

what did the user mean by this

[rich crystal]

My life would be so different without calamity 💔 what would I have spent hours on not sleeping at night doing

[deft lily]

its as shrimple as that

[cobalt wharf]

let’s just say. ur gonna be frowning

[still bluff]

Summoner's so strong because cal had a viable class, pretended sentries didn't exist, then added 50% killtime reduction support weapons on top

[distant raft]

playing actually good games like [insert game that gets low ratings because of its horrid gameplay]

[keen dune]

Yo. Is the Infernal Eclipse of Ragnarok gonna be compatible after the update?

[unique warren]

You don’t wanna know,,,,

[cobalt wharf]

oh like rain world!

[deft lily]

?

[distant raft]

i doubt un owen got an early cal like javyz did

[dense sundial]

okay dipshush289

[distant raft]

(itll be a while)

[rich crystal]

I gotta play Boss Rush simulator fr

[deft lily]

what the hell is infernal eclipse of ragnarok

[keen dune]

thx for answer, do you maybe know how long? I know u are not creator etc but maybe you know from experience and other people, U can predict XD

[rich crystal]

You don’t wanna know
Oh the horror….

[distant raft]

uhhhhhh

[keen dune]

some king of modpack bro, just found out about it

[distant raft]

depends on how much is changed under the hood

[deft lily]

interesting

[distant raft]

i know infernum and souls dlc are already ready to ship out the second brainstorm drops

[keen dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVF6J7fV7XA

[rich crystal]

I’m excited to play the new Fargos update