calamity-update-talk

[stone fiber]

Shit I meant SS
My bad

[deft lily]

infernum yharon
dash simulator 2.0 (1.0 being infernum dog)

[unique warren]

I think it's so funny how cal does true melee

[calm ingot]

Beta being old duke

[unique warren]

Make the weapons larger than vanilla ones ❌
Absurd damage ✅

Except Holy Collider. That's beeg.

[solemn crest]

High risk, high reward

[grim pecan]

oh thank god i thought i was going crazy

[unique warren]

Still, it's funny how the majority of Post-ML TM weapons are like... the same size as pre-ML vanilla ones

[vocal kelp]

some kind of sea sorrow sunken sea (Core keeper) sunless sea (the popular game from the fallen londo

[unique warren]

Last Mourning is nearly the exact same size as Horseman's Blade

[grim pecan]

true melee will have a lot more options in brainstorm, especially post-ml i think it'll be fun. but after DoG, and especially after Yharon... yeah you'll still be suffering

[unique warren]

It's just funny that out of all things, a post-Prov weapon is like... the biggest True Melee weapon

[vocal kelp]

real melee players kill people with their minds

[calm ingot]

Sounds like mage to me

[high scaffold]

Not realy melee

[unique warren]

Me when I use an Brain Storm

[vocal kelp]

your eyes are closed with doubt preventing you from the pure vision of relogic

[calm ingot]

Real tmelee players kill stuff by punching it (phosphorescent gauntlet is really funny)

[high scaffold]

Speaking of melee, 1.4.5 reworked a bunch of melee weapons

[solemn crest]

Just waiting for an April fools update for calamity where they change it to like “Catlamity” or something and resprite all bosses to be cats

[deft lily]

I'd rather uninstall tbh

[calm ingot]

Phasesabers
Key brand
Paladin’s hammer
Isn’t that it?

[grim pecan]

there are the new cat hit sounds, what if i just replace every hit sound in the game with the cat hit sound

[solemn crest]

…

That would be so peak

[placid wadi]

Calamaamity

[calm ingot]

Every sound in the game gets replaced with the meowmere sound

[solemn crest]

Omg yes

[high scaffold]

Antlion jaw, scissors, golems fist, purple clubfish, possessed hatched, obsidian swordfish and I might have missed some

[calm ingot]

Scal gets catgirl ears and a maid costume

Maybe too far

[ivory lark]

kitty girl or da puppy girl sounds for today

[deft lily]

Whar

youre weird

[ivory lark]

OBLITERATE

[solemn crest]

Nah, DoG gets cat ears

[deft lily]

degeneracy at its finest

[calm ingot]

Actually this is better

And he’s pissed about it

[high scaffold]

Anchor too got reworked and so is beam sword

[unique warren]

Cornball

[ivory lark]

no, DoG would actually really like wearing cat ears

[calm ingot]

Idk if I’d call beam sword a rework

[deft lily]

?

[rose laurel]

No, he's actually entirely fine with it but pretends he isn't

[deft lily]

😐

[solemn crest]

Biggest calamity lore drop of all time

[deft lily]

anyways

[grim pecan]

🌵

[deft lily]

brainstorm soontm

[rose laurel]

What the fuck do you mean Cactus

[pseudo vector]

biggest calamity lore drop that dog is a fucking dork

[blazing field]

Calamitas with catgirl ears is real and true actually

[spiral niche]

is DoG lowkey a tsundere

[high scaffold]

It does play differently with bounces

[blazing field]

i just said so

im cheese calamity

trhey call me catlamitas

[grim pecan]

it's the most tsundere of plants

[rose laurel]

Oh

Explode

[unique warren]

"Lore drop" like we don't alr know he's a massive cornball

[deft lily]

and this convo got weird bye

[unique warren]

[blazing field]

how is it weird 😭 😭

[cunning sequoia]

4chan user

[rose laurel]

You are the one making it weird 8ut sure

[cunning sequoia]

for SURE

[blazing field]

dawg catgirl ears arent something sexual or weird

[solemn crest]

Replace Scal’s vortex with this

[vivid hemlock]

[high scaffold]

Also realy glad they buffed harpoon in 1.4.5

[solemn crest]

(It still spins)

[blazing field]

its incredible

[obtuse hawk]

wires vortex

[grave geyser]

what the hell is going on in here

[obtuse hawk]

dont get zapped

[cunning sequoia]

[grim pecan]

anyway, if we actually want to get on topic i've been thinking about mage lately

[obtuse hawk]

THANK FUCK

[solemn crest]

Mage :)

[grave geyser]

magical wizards and shit

[deft lily]

good timing

[blazing field]

Does god love us? of course!

add 50 mana flower upgrades to mage

[deft lily]

mage is mid

[high scaffold]

Also they added that 2 flail synergy which is kinda insane, I see some new weapon/weapon line potential in it

[deft lily]

Imo

[obtuse hawk]

mage in cala is kinda ehhh

[cunning sequoia]

remove mana

[grim pecan]

this is all my own personal thoughts and not a reflection of the wider team's opinions on mage, with that being said

[vivid hemlock]

please

[vocal kelp]

you guys want a good mage? copy elements awoken absurd mage accesory line

[obtuse hawk]

chaos stone burns your monitor irl

[vocal kelp]

that mod has tim drop a 50+ mana 10% damage acc

[solemn crest]

Chaos stone fries your CPU for immersion

[vocal kelp]

u can get a mage prehardmode emblem

mage only

elements awoken is the only mod to ever love mage

[ivory lark]

I think we need more sorcerers

[obtuse hawk]

lets rev up mates *computer makes loud whirring sound*

[grim pecan]

i don't think cal needs or will get some grand mana rework. the tools for making mage are already there, mana just needs to be something mages actually thinks about

[calm ingot]

Mage just needs more than 4 accessories is all

[deft scroll]

Does calamity pre-1.4.5 still work as normal on tmodloader?

[obtuse hawk]

mana regen be feeling like waiting for an appointment

[vocal kelp]

just design interesting weapons weve been saying this

[unique warren]

Oh I have a fun idea for how to make mana interesting

[deft lily]

yeah

[stone fiber]

What synergy?

[vocal kelp]

theres no point on reworking mana itself

[deft scroll]

ty

[unique warren]

Nah, the issue is that mana regen isn't slow enough

[ivory lark]

calamitas is already a demihuman and has weird ears

[vocal kelp]

its all on the weapon design

[unique warren]

It's a non factor essentially

[obtuse hawk]

o right

[unique warren]

There very much is a point

[grim pecan]

individual weapons should be complex, yeah. mana doesn't need a rework, it simply needs to be something the player actually interacts with rather than just spamming flower. the pieces are already there, reworking mana as a concept is just silly

[unique warren]

Not that it's calamity's place to rework mana

[solemn crest]

Maybe a type of weapon that does significantly less damage the less mana you have?

[vocal kelp]

no there isnt really a point you're just making yourself an infinite amount of problems

[obtuse hawk]

ion blaster

[vocal kelp]

if what you want is mage to have interesting play you make the weapons the source of that

[deft lily]

as per most things

😓

[unique warren]

Once again, cornball

[high scaffold]

When you have both blue moon and that one shadow chest flail in your inventory at the same time and use one you will spin both of them and when you launch the one you hold goes forward and the other one backwards

[deft lily]

what the fuck is a cornball

[grim pecan]

uneeded

[grave rock]

[stone fiber]

I'll be taking that

[unique warren]

Not really, oftentimes making smth better is hard and challenging but really worth it

[stone fiber]

Sunfury
Also this is peak

[vocal kelp]

... this does not apply to this situation here

[verbal elk]

LETS GO 320 HP

[spiral niche]

i think wulfrum prosthesis was a cool attempt to make mana more interactive its just too bad it didnt amount to much

[verbal elk]

god bless heart slimes and skyblock

[unique warren]

Why not exactly? Mage suffers from not having a very distinct identity and a rework could fix that.

[vocal kelp]

reworking the mechanic of mana inherently requires like revaluating every single piece of mage equipment and weaponry int he mod to some degree or another

[solemn crest]

I agree. I love using it pre-boss

[vocal kelp]

no classes have a very distinct identity

it's a lost fight

[unique warren]

Because they haven't been reworked

[vocal kelp]

just make the individual weapons fun and interesting mechanically and thematically

yeah because it is a waste of time

[grave geyser]

class identity isnt real and cal is not the mod to make it real

[solemn crest]

Nah, I like engaging with ammo types in ranger

and ammo management

[calm ingot]

Rogue:

[deft lily]

ive never played any other class other than melee in this game

[high scaffold]

There is a youtube video showcasing it but could also try in game

[unique warren]

Classes do definitely have their identities but they aren't fully explored

[deft lily]

Dont really feel like im missing out on much

[vocal kelp]

rogue is literally ranger but every weapon has a charged attack

[grave geyser]

^

[vocal kelp]

like rogue has a gimmick it doesnt have a fully distinct identity it has a gimmick

and thats okay

[deft lily]

and also id rather not get harassed online for how i play a 2d pixelated game

[calm ingot]

Every weapon having a charge attack is the point

[unique warren]

That being said, cal is not the mod to do this, yes

[wise bolt]

why would you get harassed for olaying a diff class

[solemn crest]

Ok hear me out what if mage had like no mana regen, but certain weapons used mana and certain weapons gave it back?

[deft lily]

good question

[wise bolt]

who gaf

[unique warren]

But acting like classes are good as they are is a bit ridiculous

[vocal kelp]

anyways the solution every mod needs to approach to making fun gameplay for every class is to make fun weapons because mechanical full class reworks r just really pointless

[stone fiber]

cornball
adj. Of a cheesy, corny, and otherwise over-the-top feelgood nature.

[vocal kelp]

a mod solely dedicated to it could definitely get away and introduce unique and interesting ideas but itd be a pretty contained thing

[deft lily]

thanks

[unique warren]

Yeah, obvs, and it would also be fun and peak

[deft lily]

👍

[high scaffold]

Also is anchor like actualy viable now?

[stone fiber]

I see
Reminds me about the Slime God whip from Catalyst

[unique warren]

Classes in vanilla do have their identities but they don't capitalize on it well

[vocal kelp]

they're not really "good", their lack of separation is a point of criticism for terraria, but "fixing" those problems is a monumental task with very little reward

[calm ingot]

It’s still pretty bad but not a complete piece of trash at least

[grave geyser]

they litterally dont

[unique warren]

They're there but not emphasized

[vocal kelp]

identity doesn't really like matter all that much in the end

[high scaffold]

Imagine calamity adds an abyss anchor someday

[grave geyser]

the clossest is summoner and even then its basically nonexistent

[vocal kelp]

what matters is the gameplay

[high scaffold]

Actualy, might actualy be peak hold up

[vocal kelp]

what we've heard of thorium's thrower rework manages it really well, and orchid's classes also manage to stand out

but like, its all down to the weapon gameplay

bcuz thats what you should focus on

[unique warren]

Ranger, the standard class
Melee, the class that does better up close. Yes, even swords that have projectiles only really shine when up close.
Mage, a class defined by a need to regen mana for the best damage, creating an on and off playstyle
Summoner... well, as you said, it's already there

For example, vanilla's Terrablade has like... ehhhh damage when only using projectiles

It only ever outshines other classes when you mix in True Melee hits

[deft lily]

solution: remove every class.

in fact delete the whole game

[unique warren]

Ok dude

[fierce nebula]

solution: remove every class.

[grave rock]

does guardian have a throwing knife

[solemn crest]

Is that not what the arsenal armors are basically doing?

[grave rock]

throwing knife is required for a class to be real imo sorry i dont mak the rules

[late trellis]

Play Terraria IRL

[deft lily]

unrealistic

[solemn crest]

Delete IRL

Nothing exists

[deft lily]

if only

[unique warren]

?

[late trellis]

_ _

[calm ingot]

Terra blade is good even with just the projectiles

If you build it right

[solemn crest]

Terraria but you can’t touch grass

[unique warren]

Like what

[calm ingot]

Melee speed

[deft lily]

terraria try to be a bad game challenge (impossible)

[unique warren]

I suppose I could test that

[calm ingot]

It’s unique because the projectile fires with every sword swing as of 1.4.4

[unique warren]

Uhhh nope I don't believe that is the case

[solemn crest]

Ik how to make it bad

[calm ingot]

Pre 1.4.4 it didn’t work like that

[solemn crest]

Step 1: uninstall

[calm ingot]

Step 1: install Fargo’s cal overhaul

[solemn crest]

I never got in to Fargo’s

[deft lily]

bold of you to assume that that message was telling the full undeniable truth

[unique warren]

Stake Launcher does around 1700 (no stealth) and terrablade (no true melee hits) does like... 700 about

[grim pecan]

fargo's is fantastic, i love that mod

[stone fiber]

No, that's thrower

[late trellis]

Cargo

[unique warren]

Oops, correction, stake launcher does 1300 about

Still a LOT more

[grim pecan]

gold standard for vanilla boss reworks, imo

[deft lily]

meh
fargos never really interested me.

[calm ingot]

Where celestial shell

[deft lily]

even with cal DLC a thing

[unique warren]

I can replace destroyer emblem with it ig?

[calm ingot]

That’s about all it does that I like

[unique warren]

Moderate increase I guess...?

[solemn crest]

Ok ik it’s stupid, but I just never really liked the Fargo’s sprites

That’s why I couldn’t get into it

[calm ingot]

The rest of it is really ugly and unpolished and I dislike the design philosophy of cramming everything ever into op accessories

Same

[stone fiber]

True
QoL my beloved

[deft lily]

I mean, I dont think anybody here would attack you for having that opinion (at least i hope)

idt its stupid

[solemn crest]

Honestly calamity’s probably the only content mod for terraria I’ve played

[calm ingot]

Idk I feel like I get annoying (more so than usual) with all the shade I throw at Fargos whenever the opportunity arises

[deft lily]

incoming the horde of people who assume in the affirmative that this user thinks every other terraria mod is inferior

[unique warren]

[solemn crest]

I don’t doubt it’s a good mod, it has a fairly large fan base from what I understand, just doesn’t look like it’s for me

[unique warren]

Bro doesn't know about 2.0

[earnest jewel]

Get 'em, boys.

[late trellis]

The Trojan Squirrel is the best sprite imo

[calm ingot]

You’re right I don’t what’s that

[cobalt wharf]

the boss sprites are toggleable

[grim pecan]

having an opinion is fine, but be mindful about how you talk about other mods, especially here.

[unique warren]

Next update for Souls which plans to pretty much nerf almost everything in the mod to be on-par with vanilla gear

[cobalt wharf]

every other poor item sprite is getting redone in the next update

[solemn crest]

Wait chat i might be stupid does Fargo’s have a “vanilla boss only” mod or something?

[unique warren]

And that's only an aspect of it

[calm ingot]

That’s nice at least
Apparently the ooa rework is really good too but I can’t find footage of it anywhere

[cobalt wharf]

the boss sprites are controlled by a config

[grim pecan]

^

[deft lily]

agreed. I just notice a common theme here is that people like to jump to conclusions on.. anything tbh 😓

[solemn crest]

For the modded bosses as well?

[cobalt wharf]

wdym

[solemn crest]

Fargo’s adds bosses like the mutant and stuff right?

[unique warren]

Yuh it adds a lot

[cobalt wharf]

the modded boss sprites don’t have any issue where they don’t fit their area or anything

[solemn crest]

No yeah like that makes sense I just think they’re a little silly, and that’s my surface level reason why I haven’t tried that mod yet

That and some of the final tier boss gameplay looks a little too precise for me lol

[grim pecan]

i think if you tried it you would end up liking it, i think you should give it a go

[late trellis]

I love Cargo's

Fargo's*

[cunning sequoia]

cargo vroom

[solemn crest]

Hell yeah, I love Cargo

[unique warren]

@calm ingot Yeah I can't get Terrablade to compete with Stake Launcher DPS without either unfairly buffing it or using true melee hits

[cunning sequoia]

i miss polarities

[grim pecan]

mutant is a very precise boss yes, but you're looking at it in a vacuum and missing the fact that the rest of the game prepares you for it

it's really well done

[grave geyser]

wdym by unfairly buffing it

[verbal elk]

34 HP YES

380

[solemn crest]

Yeah ig that makes sense

[unique warren]

Giving the melee build more damage accessories than the ranger one

[solemn crest]

Maybe I’ll try it out when everything updates to the new version

[grave geyser]

what accessories are you using

[calm ingot]

That’s because stake launcher is also a really strong weapon, compare it to any other melee projectile besides maybe flairoon
I think you have to have a certain balance of violent and menacing

[obtuse hawk]

gee, i wonder how far this mod will go !!

[unique warren]

I am currently doing all violent tbf, maybe I should do half and half?

[obtuse hawk]

eats the tomato before it hits me

[late trellis]

HAHA

[solemn crest]

I see what you did there

[deft lily]

bad

[grave geyser]

also what armor are you using

cause that matters

like a lot

[unique warren]

Mech and fire glove, celestial shell

[hasty hawk]

heh

[unique warren]

Armor mixing

This is vanilla testing fyi

[grave geyser]

I mean tblade really wants full beetle

[obtuse hawk]

ok this was probably the worst terraria mod joke i ever made

anyways

[hasty hawk]

Quite calamitous

[grim pecan]

don't encourage them this will have disaterous consequences

[unique warren]

Hmmm I mean I could try that but I did earlier and it seemed worse?

[grim pecan]

oh no it's starting

[deft lily]

bleh

[hasty hawk]

it may serve as a catalyst for more jokes

[obtuse hawk]

spoilerous found dead in the bronx

[grim pecan]

i'm leaving

[grave geyser]

30% melee speed is 30% melee speed :/

[late trellis]

Perhaps it may be a calamity

[deft lily]

same this convo bores me

[calm ingot]

Also remember to test it on a real boss instead of dummies
Moving hitbox and defense and all that

[hasty hawk]

anyways spoiler i mean update talk am i rite?

[unique warren]

Alright, alright

Fair actually

[calm ingot]

I like using eol as a dummy

[obtuse hawk]

im defo gonna choose crimson when brainstorm comes around

[unique warren]

I’ll probably just do Betsy

[obtuse hawk]

BoC is already in my top 5 bosses

at least for vanilla

[solemn crest]

I’m trying to brainstorm some ideas for my next playthrough

[hasty hawk]

Iirc the class reworks are gonna be Ranger ✅ > Summoner > Mage then either Rogue or Melee

[calm ingot]

Epic brainstorm reference???

[unique warren]

My current build gives me constant 30% melee speed tho

[grave geyser]

whats the mix

[grim pecan]

i really like the new dead cells potion thing. whatever it's called

i'd like to see cal try to move away from forcing infinite buffs on boss fights

[late trellis]

Glime Sod

[stone fiber]

What reworks?

[hasty hawk]

Ranger already had a ton of changes last patches, in Brainstorm especially the removal of Point Blank (tbh this shouuld have only been on shotguns but Fab went and added it to every gun)

[unique warren]

Hallowed Mask, Shinobi chest, Valhalla legs

[hasty hawk]

At least its gone 🎊

[verbal elk]

finally bro

f*ck point blank

[grim pecan]

mage will just happen naturally as it gets more accessories, i don't think it'll be a full rework just something that happens in the background

[obtuse hawk]

i agree that it shoulda only been on closer range guns

[calm ingot]

Aren’t valhalla leggings worse than squire offensively

I could be tripping

[verbal elk]

im not getting my last heart cyrstal beo

[hasty hawk]

At least the current testers will no longer have debates over Yharon balancing (with ranger) due to different playstyles

[unique warren]

Nah it’s a straight 5% melee crit buff over squire

[hasty hawk]

fuck point blank

[grim pecan]

no i can assure you this is still a problem, the xyk message is still pinned c:

[stone fiber]

By infinite buffs you mean like the station ones?
Because I'm definitely a fan of not having to refresh them

[stone fiber]

Where?

[grim pecan]

as long as CIT keeps being supernaturally good at yharon post DoG tests will require multiple look overs

[grave geyser]

so 30% melee speed 10% melee damge 35% melee crit
vs beetle giving 44% damage 42% melee speed 8% melee crit
this definitely sounds like a dummy testing moment ngl

[hasty hawk]

CalDev

not here ofc

[verbal elk]

what the f*ck malice

[hasty hawk]

whats with all of these horrid crops that have popped up

[unique warren]

The terraria wiki legit recommends this over beetle but alr

[grave geyser]

we're gonna starve

[hasty hawk]

Legendary + Rev/Death

[unique warren]

And many ppl I’ve talked to before

[grave geyser]

I mean then go ahead I'm not super versed in vanilla meta

[calm ingot]

Calamity already has blood orbs and idk what the difference is between afk farming blorbs and cheating in infinite potions besides wasting time afk

[grim pecan]

no, buff potions

[stone fiber]

No I mean the message

[stone fiber]

Isn't this Fargo's thing?

[hasty hawk]

On Cal Dev's tester channel?

or did you mean What did the message say?

[solemn crest]

There was a mod I had a while ago where if you had a bunch of potions you could craft an item that gave you a perma buff of that same potion, and you could combine perma buffs

I think it was luiafk? (Before I knew QoT existed)

[hasty hawk]

That sounds like the successor to LuiAfk, dont remember its exact name

but that mod is busted

even more so than the OG LuiAfk

[verbal elk]

i got a 2th geode finally

[solemn crest]

Yeah it was a little much

[unique warren]

I'd say ranger still does better here idk

[verbal elk]

YES i got emerald

[hasty hawk]

I like to do:
Magic Storage
WMITF
Recipe Browser
[Content mod + dependencies]
Fargos mutant
Alch NPC (depends on the content mod, if its Fargo's Souls im 100% getting this)
[Some pretty visual mods]
[Optimization mods]

Whenever I do a mod pt

[stone fiber]

Is it hidden?

[stone fiber]

Same

[hasty hawk]

Different server entirely

you will not find it

The message was smth about testers having to check other testers' (more specifically directed at one vs Yharon) tests to make sure values are consistent

[solemn crest]

I just do
Magic Storage
Quality of Terraria
AlchemistNPC (been trying to move away from it though)
OreExcavator
[content mod]

[hasty hawk]

Dont remember the exact message and cant even get it anymore

[grim pecan]

yharon in general is just a boss that can be played as passively or aggressively as you want, which means that different playstyles will have massive variance on how well weapons perform

[hasty hawk]

best you dont anyways

[verbal elk]

40 hp YES

[solemn crest]

Me after finding 1 life crystal

[verbal elk]

now i gottta get gold armor and ill be set for king slime

[solemn crest]

Regular or calamity?

[verbal elk]

regular skyblock

[solemn crest]

Ahh I gotcha

[verbal elk]

i wouldnt be talking in here if i was playing calamity

[solemn crest]

Fair

Ive been playing the vampire seed

[verbal elk]

i hate how this is basically just like

[solemn crest]

Very interesting challenge

[verbal elk]

killing slimes for some item 90% of the time

[solemn crest]

Once you get KS down tho you’ll have so many blocks to build with

[verbal elk]

wait i think i can just shimmer my plat for gold armor

i accidentally deleted my ancient gold helmet bro

[solemn crest]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[verbal elk]

oh sh*t a sliem rain finally

[pale silo]

Id swap alch with pristines if you want to move away from it easier

Reduces the extra content and gives more focus on the...potions..portion

[pale silo]

Btw you can throw in a slime crown into shimmer to spawn a slime rain :3

(when you get post eye)

[verbal elk]

alr

[pale silo]

I should probably go do KS tbh

Post Tron now in my sb

Took fucking 40 nights to get the eye spawn

So I'm over prepared like hell

[solemn crest]

That’s what I’ve been hearing, but I’ve lowkey just gone cold turkey

Ain’t too bad since dreadnautilus is farmable in Infernum at least

Not sure if that’s a thing in regular calamity

So that’s like 200 orbs/kill

[verbal elk]

i just realised weapons with the same reforge now stack

[solemn crest]

But thanks for letting me know about that one

[high scaffold]

Im realy glad they added more tooltips in 1.4.5

[verbal elk]

just in time

thanks

[high scaffold]

You can now see what you can extractinate

[verbal elk]

finally

[high scaffold]

Also wireable tooltip

[pale silo]

It is dw

And in pre hm

You can easily get 1.1k blood orbs a night

[high scaffold]

And you can actualy automate extractination with wires

So goog

[solemn crest]

Wait WHAT

[verbal elk]

yea it extracts stuff from nearby chests when signalled

[solemn crest]

THATS AWESOME DUDE

[high scaffold]

^

But only 2 blocks away

[verbal elk]

oh

i thought it was the same range as crafting

YES

[cerulean crow]

Hello chat I know new terraria literally just came out but is there an ETA for Calamity being compatible with latest version?

[verbal elk]

bro it teeleported when i was above nothign and it despawned

[high scaffold]

And each signal = 1 item

[solemn crest]

Still tho, extractionation without me needed to hold left click for 12 minutes? Sign me up

[stone fiber]

No

[pale silo]

June/July earliest

Likely later

[solemn crest]

No ETA rn, I don’t even think tmodloader is updated to the new version

[pale silo]

Chloro extractonator exists

[high scaffold]

So quarter timer for 4 items per second or 240 items per minute

[solemn crest]

Yeah but this one I don’t even need to do anything I can just dump it in a chest

[verbal elk]

i just realised this slime rain is so good for ores

[high scaffold]

But you could scale it up tho with multiple extractinators

[pale silo]

Also you can just wire multiple wire colours

To trigger it multiple times

Per timer.

[solemn crest]

So how do the item hoppers work?

Are they their own item or something?

[hollow harness]

Does the dummy teleportation signal trick still work in this update

[high scaffold]

You power a chest and it sucks up items

[solemn crest]

Ok awesome

Does it do any item or only stuff that matches its inventory?

[high scaffold]

Second option

Autofilter

[solemn crest]

Oh nice

That’s huge

[high scaffold]

Idk about empty chests

[pale silo]

Afaia yeah

As that's based on hoiks

[verbal elk]

a and k are on opposite sides of the keyboard wth

[pale silo]

Wdym?

[high scaffold]

Also minion buffs now show how many of that minion you have

[pale silo]

I always do afaia instead of afaik

Aware/know

[verbal elk]

oh

[high scaffold]

Lava and golden bug net can now break those large jungle plants

[hollow harness]

WHAAAAT

that's useful for jungle bait farms

[pale silo]

Gold could do it before I think

Lava tho no

[hollow harness]

yea but now Lava can which is way more accessible in general

[high scaffold]

Thats a 1.4.5 feature

[fathom girder]

Lava truthers when I get the golden bug net in two fishing quests

[high scaffold]

All planter boxes sold from the start

[hollow harness]

I got all the fishing accs in 20 quests

[high scaffold]

No more boss locked

[stone fiber]

Idk I always go for golden

[stone fiber]

My man

[stone fiber]

[high scaffold]

The crafting in 1.4.5 is just so much better then 1.4.4.9

[hollow harness]

golden bug net is cool but the thing is its another random quest drop which can take between 1 quest to many multiple

[stiff light]

it really is

im not gonna use magic storage anymore i think

[hollow harness]

tbf they did change the chances of jungle bugs appearing after you destroy big jungle plants

[verbal elk]

finally they added a search bar for it

[stiff light]

and categories

[high scaffold]

Goblin stinkerer is now less stinky

[hollow harness]

You can also click on crafting stations to see items that are only crafted in that crafting station

[high scaffold]

Armor set pieces now always display the set bonus

Very nice

[solemn crest]

Lowkey me neither, they kinda fixed almost all the problems with storage

[high scaffold]

Magic storage only for storage

I wonder how theyll port it to 1.4.5

[solemn crest]

This update is making me want to build structures for each crafting station for some reason

Like build a greenhouse for an alchemy lab, and a blacksmith for an anvil

[verbal elk]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[high scaffold]

Turns out if you make crafting tolerable people will work around it in creative ways

[solemn crest]

Aww man dealing with a greenhouse is gonna be rough for a vampire

[solemn crest]

Crazy concept ngl

Who would’ve thought 🤷‍♂️

[stiff light]

silly shape

[solemn crest]

(Appreciate them so much for it though)

[solemn crest]

It’s the shape of a slime

[stiff light]

i like free select snipping

its like environmental story telling

[high scaffold]

What next, add proper markers and hints for progressing the game?

[limpid rain]

Legit been having so much fun just building stuff on my 1.4.5 getfixedboi run

[stiff light]

who are any of u mfs

[solemn crest]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

Bro why my gifs tweakin

[verbal elk]

embds are disabld

dabled

disabled

[high scaffold]

Imagine they add visual indicators for major events like entering hardmode, jungle growth and post plantera dungeon upgrade

Text is easy to miss

But visual indicators? Not so much

[limpid rain]

What would be a good visual indicator

I think maybe spirits or something coming off/out of the dungeon would be cool

[stiff light]

i think entering hardmode is pretty clear

[high scaffold]

Like a visual indicator of grand V of evil upon first WoF kill

[limpid rain]

Yeah

[stiff light]

hiw

literally how

this is why ur not ideas guy

[high scaffold]

Beams of light and dark coming from hell to the surface

[stiff light]

devs add more isopods

[limpid rain]

Would also make it feel like the big jump in progress it is cause rn you kill WoF and it's kind of anticlimactic

[stiff light]

cuz it aint the climax

thats like moonlord

[high scaffold]

Imagine you kill plantera and visual ripples appear at your screen originating from the dungeon direction

As "screams echo"

[stiff light]

no one be missing the words i feel

but it would be cool ig

[high scaffold]

If they are making the game more accessible to newcomers might go all the way

Honestly I feel like new player experience in 1.4.5 will be like 10 times better than 1.4.4.9

[stiff light]

its also a lot of effort for something that doesnt need to exist

[high scaffold]

Well, new crafting didnt need to exist

But it does now and its very good

[stiff light]

you can just see the chat

[high scaffold]

You can also completely miss the chat

[stiff light]

in what universe

[high scaffold]

Like being super focused on the fight and after winning putting your eyes of the monitor

[stiff light]

where ur eyes going....

there are already enough hints to stuff

like i feel like if you dont notice the hallow, astral, a new evil biome and a buncha new enemies

[chilly swallow]

when tmodlaoder gonna update to 1.4.5 is calamity gonna be doable instantly?

[stiff light]

probably not instantly

[arctic cliff]

the real thing you need to do is to download VCMM which plays the absolutely spectacular song known as "The Resurrection of a Cruel World"

[high scaffold]

Housing changes are nice

"When holding an equipable item in the cursor, usable equipment slots are now highlighted, and others are dimmed"

[still sorrel]

When Calamity port to 1.4.5., will it be at the same time as sunken sea rework?

[high scaffold]

Peak change

Maybe if theyll line up

But more likely that at different times

[misty wren]

no

sso isnt close enough to being done for it to be finished between the time brainstorm releases and tmod 1.4.5 beta for porting

[dull heart]

sso may not even be worked on next anyway

[high scaffold]

Thats something new

I mean, yeah, we only knew about 2.1 being BS and SSO having some work done on it

[pale silo]

okay so why this not a dungeon smh

thats more then 250 tiles, infront of unsafe walls, with dungeon bricks for spawning spots

in caverns

[misty wren]

yeah i was gonna say before i had a quick other thing to do the devs are burnt out on the fish mines

[high scaffold]

They improved item switching mid use too

[dull heart]

yup

now hatchetstacking is even easier

[high scaffold]

New coin item animations when they are sorted and stacked

[rapid tiger]

is there a release date announced to the new update?

[misty wren]

no

[high scaffold]

Minions are kept on death too

W 1.4.5

Making the QoL mods dead

Torches now have placement previews

"Hovering over a buff icon while using an item will no longer interrupt usage of said item"

Thats an amazing W

[naive sluice]

PEAK

BEST CHANGE

[high scaffold]

Those 3 years were worth it

[naive sluice]

The worst change this update is definitely the increase in the amount of flinx fur required for the foinx stuff

totally unnecessary

and the removal of whip stacking did remove some of the skill expression

[pale silo]

How does dungeon enemies decide they can spawn?

[naive sluice]

dungeon background walls

[pale silo]

"officially" I'm in the dungeon now, and there's definitely blocks nearby

But they just

Dont

Spawn

sb stuffs

[high scaffold]

Whipstacking was: 1, unintentional; 2, too strong

[naive sluice]

Hoiks were unintentional at first but were allowed to stay so that point is invalid

and? its a single player game so something being too strong doesnt matter and it takes considerably more skill to cycle between whips while actively dodging than anything else

[pale silo]

Hoiks was however loved by nearly everyone.

Whip stacking fucks balance completely

I agree they should've only removed tag/crit stacking

Leaving the buffs on

But fact is the damage on it was insane when combined with sentries/summons

At best it should be a sub class

[naive sluice]

Hoiks literally broke an entire event

[pale silo]

Not game shattering defining

[pale silo]

Hoiks effects every class just as much

Whip stacking = unhealthy for balance

Hoiks = not unhealthy for balance

Hoiks just allowed for farms

Whip stacking encourages true melee as summoner. If any class should have that, that's melee

[naive sluice]

at the cost of multitasking a lot more while dodging with the most fragile class

its skill expression at its best

[pale silo]

You can still do it as a skill expression yknow?

And you do get a DPS buff still

Just not a feckin 5x dps

Buff

End of the day, the whips deal damage

And it's most definitely a decent %

[naive sluice]

not rly? ur r not gaining the tag dmg nor buffs, its just worse than just using the best on tier whip

[pale silo]

The tag damage was the issue

I agree you should still get the sub buffs

And chances are they'll readd that

But the actual tag damage/crit damage stacking was dumb and stupid

Tbh as long as they readd the sub buffs to it, the whip subclass itself becomes very viable

(treat it closer to bows only, or smth like that)

okay seriously why are the enemies not spawning

[high scaffold]

The biggest loss from whip stacking removal is gotta be cool whip snowflake

[naive sluice]

did u shimmer the walls

[pale silo]

just having the sub buffs back readds that

[pale silo]

theyre unsafe yeah

dungeon music is playing

and can currently fish

[naive sluice]

oh wait

[pale silo]

with the 250 blocks req nearby

[naive sluice]

i think its because you have a town nearby

[pale silo]

shadow candle

[naive sluice]

oh then no ide

idea

[pale silo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

wiki doesnt go in depth either

its weird

[naive sluice]

maybe not enough walls for enemies to spawn?

[pale silo]

just states the normal biome req

[pale silo]

left side i added more jic it was that and still none

same with more layers of bricks on floor

game jank

[naive sluice]

make them more taller

[pale silo]

first 40 nights for eye spawn, now this

[naive sluice]

maybe they're just too short for enemies to spawn

[misty wren]

its also worth noting that the skill expression aspect was going to be lost in 1.4.5 if it hadnt already been lost by default

the skill expression in 1.4.5 would be... knowing how to use a scroll wheel on a mouse while holding m1. this is surely difficult enough to justify the stupidity that was whipstacking

[pale silo]

(also whip stacking forced mobile/console to be at a disadavantage)

doing whip stacking with a controller is hell, and near impossible with a touch screen

added even more walls and still no, even removed npcs (put em back now) and no

[dull heart]

there will be a release date announced within the next month 🙃

[pale silo]

Sussy

Doze you know dungeon enemy spawn code? (Or can look at it)

I'm genuinely so confused on what I'm missing

[dull heart]

idk

[glad rose]

How's basegame summoner now, I heard it got a sidegrade that was overall a buff

[dull heart]

a lot of people mad about whip stacking death

but it's overall a buff to the average player

[halcyon seal]

Significantly buffed from what I know

[stone fiber]

This sprite is dead, right?

[halcyon seal]

Whipstacking is gone but there’s a billion new whips and I don’t think a single one is bad

[primal badge]

Summoner is doing great

[dull heart]

slime whip kinda pointless from what i've seen

[bold flame]

the moonlord whip is ridiculous

slime whip is great on skyblock

[primal badge]

slime whip is great for skyblock

[pale silo]

I think it's mainly for sb tbf

[bold flame]

LOL

[pale silo]

Same for spear

[primal badge]

HHHHH

perfect timing

[bold flame]

3 ppl

same comment

[pale silo]

I wonder who's been playing sb....

Hmmmm

[bold flame]

lmao

[primal badge]

I do wonder

[bold flame]

look, I love my one block calamity runs

so an official terraria skyblock is so my jam

[primal badge]

I prefer whip for the fire debuff and a biit more range

but spear is pretty awesome

[glad rose]

Makes sense they got rid of whip stacking; they can't add more good whips with the risk people use them to do more dps than a ranger

[shut ridge]

I’m glad it’s gone

I feel like summoner is already the best class

[bold flame]

have you seen the moonlord whip?

[shut ridge]

Even without whip stacking that is

[glad rose]

also I'm assuming this will be good for calamity too when they get around to the update

[bold flame]

moon lord whip, morning star, kaleidoscope, and constellation all stacked would be...impossible to balance

[shut ridge]

Yeah it’s truly a mess

[bold flame]

all of those add crit as well

[pale silo]

Tbh whip stacking as a concept is fine...if tag/crit didn't stack

The actual buffs are fine

[bold flame]

yeah

[shut ridge]

It wasn’t supposed to be a feature anyways I think

[pale silo]

Helps the whip subclass a lot

[bold flame]

"Neither was hoiks though!"

so says a lot of whip stacking fanatics

[pale silo]

I've seen wayyyy too many people say that

[bold flame]

exactly

[pale silo]

"neither was the creeper"

[bold flame]

it's the go to excuse

[pale silo]

:3

At least do that one

[bold flame]

by the way, hwo do y'all think rollerskates are gonna affect the boot/tracers in calamity

[pale silo]

They're getting nerfed.

[primal badge]

They're getting obliterated

[bold flame]

they're gonna get obliterated in cal? or base?

[pale silo]

Tbf boots/tracers are bad overall anyways

Cal

Doze has alr said ao

[bold flame]

well, boots are great for early/mid hm

[pale silo]

Yeah

Up till golem

Give or take

[bold flame]

yeah

[primal badge]

Well I hope they'll still remain viable but like

they are extremely strong in vanilla rn

[bold flame]

tracers are an awkward item. viable, but awkward

[pale silo]

More as a building tool or make Accel slower

Tbh a simple change

Is you can't turn in the air

Or can't do it well

[bold flame]

accel doesn't matter

[pale silo]

It does tbh

[bold flame]

because dashing = instant top speed

[pale silo]

Remove dash access and make Accel slower

[glad rose]

Yea that does sound nuts

[pale silo]

I'm fine with wings being accessible

[glad rose]

Good they got rid of it, esp since summoner finally has unique prefixes now

[pale silo]

It just makes it so demount to dash is a thing

[bold flame]

I wish the whips had unique prefixes though

[pale silo]

More mechanical skill for it to be used well

[bold flame]

that sounds like it'd be a little better

[pale silo]

Ye

[bold flame]

I bought roller skates asap in SB

I have not removed them since

[pale silo]

I first found them in sb

[bold flame]

I don't even need boots

[pale silo]

I immediately went this shit broken

[primal badge]

I use roller skates 99% of the time too

[bold flame]

oh, and foxparks is way way over the top for a preboss summon

[primal badge]

And 1% I swap to pogo for falling down quickly

[bold flame]

sure, it's a rare item but

[pale silo]

I don't use skates for conveyor placing

But that's ab it

[bold flame]

the fact it basically has no competition when compared to every lone summon is stupid. It's also a summon damage flamethrower

[pale silo]

Any of you made Ur dungeon farm yet?

[bold flame]

I have

I hate dark casters with a passion though

[pale silo]

know whats wrong here?

[bold flame]

and the fire rings

[glad rose]

Btw I've not been here for awhile, has there been any major Calamity updates/news recently?

besides the Fabsol stuff

[halcyon seal]

I feel like a lot of people are unable to accept change in the greater terraria community as a whole

See Cal

And 1.4.5 changes

[halcyon seal]

New update in January

[bold flame]

NPCs might be cutting spawns down hard

[halcyon seal]

Reworks 2 bosses and like half the weapons in the game lmao

[pale silo]

shadow candle

literally no mobs spawn

[bold flame]

also, do you have like, 250-300 dungeon bricks placed?

[pale silo]

not even critters

yup

can fish

fished bewitching table alr

[glad rose]

Ooo nice :D

[primal badge]

In... this January?

[bold flame]

try putting platforms as tiles on either side of where you're standing

[calm ingot]

I thought scourge was in sso?

[primal badge]

As in the very January that is ending tomorrow

[bold flame]

it might need to be an 'enclosed space'

[main falcon]

Brainstorm yesterday

[glad rose]

Still waiting on the sunken sea update

[bold flame]

I have never had an open space for my sitting spot

[main falcon]

Die waiting

[bold flame]

SSU = calamity's gta6

[pale silo]

like this?

[halcyon seal]

Oh shit uh

February sorry

[pale silo]

ill try full blocks too

[halcyon seal]

You know what I meant tho

New update soon

[halcyon seal]

Brain and dog

DS is the 3rd

[main falcon]

Yesterday

[calm ingot]

Sso got split in half, everything non sunken sea related is coming out soon and the actual sunken sea overhaul is later

[pale silo]

would conveyors block spawns? afaia they just take the block below them for id

[glad rose]

Ye I heard about that, sounds like a good idea

[bold flame]

dungeon mobs cannot spawn on conveyor belts at all. if their spawn blocks are dungeon brick it should be fine

[glad rose]

Kinda helps with the feature creep this mod has

[bold flame]

rather, they can ONLY spawn on dungeon brick.

[misty wren]

got split in half before that too

what we were gonna get was only pre hardmode stuff

with hardmode stuff already split into another update later

[pale silo]

its just conveyor steals the block id for spawn conditions

so im uncertain on it

(first block within 30 tiles below it)

ill break some to test

You were right

Both conveyor and enclosed spot

I never tried both at once

[bold flame]

btw, in case ppl haven't seen the stats of these whips and why whipstacking would BREAK summoner to high hell this update...

spoilered the two new end game whips just in case

whip stacking, imo, was by far the most 'skill based tech' in the base game. At least afaik. But that doesn't mean it wasn't stupidly busted when stackign more than just two whips

[pale silo]

(movement mechanics is higher)

[bold flame]

I mean yeah

[pale silo]

Whip stacking is spam 1-3 keys and attack

It's barely coherent

[bold flame]

but you also gotta remember this about summoner

[pale silo]

Yeah

Summoner is meant to...be doing nothing

[bold flame]

they have to fight the closest to the bosses

of all 4 classes

after true night's edge or higher is achieved for melee at least

and they have the absolute lowest defense

[dull heart]

tbh it's not even that skill based now with 1.4.5 item swapping

[bold flame]

yeah

that too

[dull heart]

also

[bold flame]

they made item swapping much smoother

[dull heart]

you can just use multiple weapons anyway

[pale silo]

yeah item swapping feels so much better

you can actually do shite after firing a sniper

[bold flame]

yeah, you can carry multiple weapons for different scenarios still

[pale silo]

or a boomerrang misses

[bold flame]

speakign of boomerangs...

[dull heart]

possessed hatchet..

[bold flame]

don't use the bloody machete on SB, unless you are CERTAIn you'll hit the mark

[pale silo]

weeeeeee

[bold flame]

that shit will go missing for like, 5 whole ass minutes

[prisma cipher]

bell base

[bold flame]

or, you know, use solid tiles for your arena floor

[bold flame]

zenith? any other fun seeds?

[prisma cipher]

no its just drunk

[bold flame]

...I may have played too much zenith calamity

I saw y'all in underworld and assumed you were on zenith

[pale silo]

Zenith is fun tbh

[bold flame]

one of these days I will make lizahrd proud, and beat zenith calamity with tmelee only

I've done all the classes

I got hardstuck on tmelee cultist tho

zenith is a complete shitshow and pure chaos. but that's why it's so fun

I wonder how zenith+planetoids would operate...or heck, zenith+skyblock...great, now I need to try that

[pale silo]

Just tier skip him

No wait that's next update

I think you can defence cheese him somewhat

In a honey arena

Enough to DPS race him down anyways

[bold flame]

I tried that

he three taps

meanwhile, the only good weapons you can really use are butcher's chainsaw and the scoria spear

[past wedge]

anyone have any idea when cal will be compatible with 1.4.5?

[hasty tangle]

[past wedge]

holy im a brick thanks

[pale silo]

Butchers apparently shreds him

Also get hide from Deus if you didnt

Deus should Def be more doable then lunatic

[bold flame]

I can't handle the 10 mini deus

with tmelee

hell, I could barely handle it with the mage, ranger, and summoner

also, as a uh

word of advice

DO NOT do skyblock+zenith. unless you want to experience pure and utter torture

idek what to do

I'm burrowed in the island with like, 40 jungle bats, 20 slimes, 3 skeletons, and some other misc mobs trying to harass me through the mud 'roof' above my head

[pale silo]

SB zenith was fine tho?

You spawn in hell with evil mobs spawning around with lava slimes

No?

Evil mobs are easy to block cheese

And lava slimes are..well slimes

Only problem is blocking off evil spawns so you can focus on block income for npcs

[dull heart]

no solidifier sucks

and ftw removes solidifier

[pale silo]

Gfb adds it back

It's ftw sb that's pain

Namely having mk 10 has it back

With ftw

[bold flame]

maybe adding in the vampire seed is what caused that...nightmarish outcome then

I was stuck on a mud island with a tonf of hive blocks

[pale silo]

Probably cause that moves your spawn away from hell

[bold flame]

yeah

[dull heart]

oh really

[bold flame]

yeah it does

I had a solidifier there

[pale silo]

Ftw sb I wish on no one tho

[dull heart]

it's unfortunate that skyblock is just grind slimes for everything

[pale silo]

Tbh I've not grinded slimes for ages

But yeah early game is that

[bold flame]

wouldn't it be grind slimes until essentially post mech?

[pale silo]

Nope

It's just till eye

[bold flame]

because you need a lot of ore in comparison to how much you get

[pale silo]

Once you get eye, you have access to evil biome and that needs a lot of grinding for spawn (or wait for blood moon to skip for opposite evil powder)

[bold flame]

but don't you need at least the hardmode ores?

[pale silo]

Fishing does still exist, and by hm you can insta grind most items via enemies

Mechanic unlock makes farms Uber fast

[bold flame]

could you elaborate how mechanic would make the farms better?

only thing I can think of is wiring dart traps

[pale silo]

Actuators

With hoiks

[bold flame]

oh, that tek

[pale silo]

Imagine conveyors but it works on every mob no exception and like 20x faster

[bold flame]

the super speed mob transport

[pale silo]

Yups

Pretty simple to setup too

Honestly

[bold flame]

I saw a video explaining that a long while ago, but I can't find it now

someone used it for a dungeon farm

[pale silo]

Mappy has one on his coin one

Only one I remember

Where I know where is

Btw casters are countered by slime staff

Completely

[bold flame]

I just used the deerclops sentry

sometimes doesn't work but yeah

[pale silo]

I've yet to get meh ice and desert tbh

I can easily do it

I just keep forgetting every blood moon

And CBA to shimmer potions

[bold flame]

blood moon? why do you need blood moon for ice and desert?

[pale silo]

Blood moon is needed for ice bombs. Forgot the other method to allow demo to sell it

Desert is just shimmering

[bold flame]

no, freeze bombs is just night time post EoC

[pale silo]

Or extract obby

in my defence

Eye took 45 nights

To spawn.

it's a 1/3

[bold flame]

oof

I need to do some snow biome fishing for blizzard in a bottle...

cloud is complete cheeks

[pale silo]

If you have mk10

Can get sandstorm at desert via princess

[bold flame]

I do run MK10. If I'm not on zenith, I'm on MK10 lmao

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Then yeah just build a house in desert

Which only needs 300 sand in sb

Pretty doable

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yeah, I noticed snow biome took an abnormally small amount of uh

snow

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Extracting obby apparently gives stuff for it? According to the SB guide

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yes

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If potions are annoying

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obby turns to sand in extractinator

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1:1?

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yes

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Still pretty bad then

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water dupign makes it easy tho

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Lava duping just takes forever

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it's just iron intensive

no need to dupe lava

shimmer water bucket to lava

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Oh right yeah

Forgor

I got lava before shimmer in this world

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my stupid ass who duped 20 buckets of honey as a "just in case" 😭

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So I duped a small amount

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before remembering shimmer existed

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Pain.

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oh, are you aware of the lava/honey fishing glitch? I dunno if it works in 1.4.5 though

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Doesn't work no

I tested

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damn

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Got lava before water >:3

So was my first test

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so i gotta do an actual pool of honey for fishing then?

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Yeah

Sadly

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lame

I should work on getting all the fishing spots set up

to farm angler stuff

for the three buckets

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That's what I was actually doing just now tbh

Setting up fishing spots for every biome

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oh btw. the desert generation see,d snow generation seed, and water world generation seed all create their own islands around the SB map if you use it in SB

and the mushroom biome one too

well, i think the desert one does. haven't looked into it

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Oh it's all seperate?

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yeah

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Thought it overwrote the original

So never used em

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it doesn't turn the spawn island into something else. it generates random islands for you to discover

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I'll use em next time then

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makes it feel more worth exploring the void of your world

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wdym the void is very worth to exploreeee

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is calamity on the latest update yet or no?

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no

pins explains

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ight

my bad

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did...

did you let your uh

shimmer drain to a cavern layer?

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these are piggy banks???

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no not yet

was waiting on pumps

so i can do it safely

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they're seperate from piggy banks and safes

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yeah but

stored coins can be used in shops

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OH