vanilla numbers are fucked fluffy had to emergency nerf snapthorn in catalyst
#calamity-update-talk
misty wren
lapis oak
Snapthorn is so ridiculous
main falcon
Will any whip keep its multiplicative nature for theming or is that too strong in general
Since it's an unreachable boost compared to any other whip with just flat
misty wren
probably later on yes
hollow harness
it really depends on the whips I think, maybe for kaleidoscope (?)
I haven't tried the new hardmode whips yet
misty wren
pre hardmode whips get flat, post like golem and up gets multiplicative i assume
main falcon
I image that the possesion would be one of those multiplicatives since is post moonlord
hollow harness
most likely
blazing field
wasn't that a weapon for TE back whe nit wasn't dead
r u just gonna repurpose it for cal
😭
misty wren
wasn't that a weapon for TE back whe nit wasn't dead
older
it got ship of theseusd into te
stark quail
ok king slime ez
lapis oak
Will any whip keep its multiplicative nature for theming or is that too strong i...
Currently all multiplicative is dead
stark quail
and im working on my crimson biome
lapis oak
All whips are going back to flat
stark quail
finally making progress
main falcon
Currently all multiplicative is dead
That's a sad day for mathematics
lapis oak
That might change tho since it's a far future
hollow harness
to test and change
still bluff
wasn't that a weapon for TE back whe nit wasn't dead
it was before cascade was even a thing beyond fry making weapons lmao
so it doesn't need to die with the mod that appeared around it tbh 
vivid hemlock
the seven basts
lapis oak
the seven basts
speech bubble top right
also does anyone notice the music volume is too low compared to the other 2 sliders?
I have to put it 100% 😭
vocal coyote
Celebrationmk10 + ftw seems to disable the ftw boss ai changes
Eh
Regular expert playthrough ig
misty wren
(it isnt actually that bad its just a little annoying at first)
balmy fossil
did fire imps get a resprite?
misty wren
staff i think yes the enemy itself not sure
balmy fossil
staff i think yes the enemy itself not sure
the enemy, it moves a lot more fluidly and looks cuter
lapis oak
the enemy I think got resprited
vivid hemlock
you got resprited
lapis oak
ok speech bubble top right
vivid hemlock
turns you into liquid mercury
dull heart
spoiler: I might be making the lifesteal cooldown better after 2.1
lapis oak
changed my dog's fit
lapis oak
spoiler: I might be making the lifesteal cooldown better after 2.1
sounds good
dull heart
also spoiler 2:
There was a prehardmode weapon that had a debuff that did 500 dps for a little bit
I fixed it
lapis oak
😭
grim pecan
spoiler 3:
🎣 🐝 💥
wide wadi
also spoiler 2:
There was a prehardmode weapon that had a debuff that did 500 d...
wait
no way is it what im thinking off
dull heart
spoiler 3:
🎣 🐝 💥
true
dull heart
no way is it what im thinking off
Probably not
wide wadi
Probably not
laser disk
dull heart
laser disk
no
wide wadi
fishing queen bee
misty wren
spoiler 3:
🎣 🐝 💥
how could you that was my favorite healing potion
wide wadi
misty wren
i like the minion counter
lapis oak
I would like a max slots counter too tbh but this one's fine
wide wadi
it's nice QoL
instrex made an item for split mod for it but now its useless
dull heart
spoiler 3:
🎣 🐝 💥
Fixed it for you:
🌿 🎣 🐝 🤮 💥
misty wren
herb(?) fishing in honey died
wide wadi
Fixed it for you:
🌿 🎣 🐝 🤮 💥
jungle fishing pulls out bee nades
lyric trellis
also spoiler 2:
There was a prehardmode weapon that had a debuff that did 500 d...
Not again 😭
dull heart
it's ok this one wasn't sickness
misty wren
herb(?) fishing in honey died
i knew it was honey fishing right away im just not sure if the plant refers to herbs or staff or regrowth or what
lapis oak
it's ok this one wasn't sickness
ancient horror...
dull heart
i knew it was honey fishing right away im just not sure if the plant refers to h...
is it honey fishing though
misty wren
fishing bee vomit
lapis oak
what does fishing in honey even do
misty wren
bee vomit is honey
fishing in honey
lyric trellis
Honeyfin
misty wren
what does fishing in honey even do
has a couple unique drops
lapis oak
I only know the honey fish quest
misty wren
honeyfin and bumblefish
misty wren
honeyfin and bumblefish
honeyfin is the best phm healing potion in vanilla
blazing field
you can now fish yharim in honey
grave geyser
honeyfin is no longer required for hadal stew
or alternatively
honey fishing no logner takes 8 years
lyric trellis
Queen bee is dead
lapis oak
the Starcrash is a nice scouting tool
dusk bronze
it really is
grave geyser
I don't think so with the 💥
hmmm
beenades can now be fished from honey
dull heart
it's funny how far off you are
grave geyser
it's funny how far off you are
you removed honey fishing its dead no more honey fishing
main falcon
Honeyfin now heals less but gives the honey buff for as long healing pots are in cooldown
grim pecan
Fixed it for you:
🌿 🎣 🐝 🤮 💥
right thanks
grave geyser
where are the Hives man I've found none 😭
should've been playing on not the bees smh
vocal kelp
remote sparrow
so how long will it take until calamity gets updated to the new terraria update if it will?
dusk bronze
so how long will it take until calamity gets updated to the new terraria update ...
pins
vast lark
do yall think the sunken sea overhaul will release this year
dusk bronze
do yall think the sunken sea overhaul will release this year
shmaybe
lethal kraken
wow used it for 5 seconds but starcrash whip is fucking awesome
misty wren
based off past experience id guesstimate tmod 1.4.5 at about april with calamity probably in june or july which gives about 6 months to finish sso
dusk bronze
based off past experience id guesstimate tmod 1.4.5 at about april with calamity...
current estimate is september
i think
blazing field
do yall think the sunken sea overhaul will release this year
After recent events, highly doubt it tbh/
misty wren
note that this is entirely me spitballing calamity could take much less time or much longer depending on how much shit breaks
tropic jolt
september october...
blazing field
Devs are clearly super burnt out on SSO
and its development has been a mess
If anything i imagine the next update after brainstorm might not be sso just cuz they want Freedom from Fish Mines
what do i know doe
i aint a dev
dusk bronze
yeah i'm not even very excited for sso anymore
a different update would be cool
whenthe your message kills the chat
misty wren
i have nothing more to add and also work
strong isle
Devs are clearly super burnt out on SSO
Yeah, that's become very apparent, as much as I wish it wasn't the case
We're not sure what we're gonna do after Brainstorm, we'll probably have a planning meeting then
If we go with other updates, there are several candidates
lapis oak
the cathedral...
lyric trellis
Doze propaganda
dull heart
TRUE
orchid finch
Chicken Bones' set with and without robe
orchid finch
idk why but have it anyway
dull heart
Bee Keeper got resprited?
p sure that was in 1.4.4
dusk bronze
they're so peam
plush socket
Like a ground version of pre-nerf Black Spot.
dusk bronze
If we go with other updates, there are several candidates
do u know if the hadean wilds would be its own update
plush socket
Anyway, I truly look forward to the Sunken Sea Overhaul, particularly the developing Draedon set.
lapis oak
I think I know how to activate the Suicide Boom attack of Mushroom Boi
hover under the target
dusk bronze
ohh
lapis oak
I kept doing that and Queen Bee got rekt in like 2 cycles 😭
blazing field
If we go with other updates, there are several candidates
Really hoping for a evil biome update myself personally, specially 'cuz it'd be an way to add more post ml content that isn't Boss Fight which the mod desperately needs, more post ml evil biome enemies and exploration content and wahtnot
plus the Lore would be cool with the gods of dogma/war and all that, for how crucial they are to the story being prob some of the most important gods, they have no mentions in the mod currently
call it the Evil Malicious Update of Doom and Despair
dusk bronze
lapis oak
I think I know what they meant by automate making arena with the Skates?
does Stress Ball automatically placing down platforms too?
orchid finch
Chicken Bones' set with and without robe
kazzymodus' set, a new QA guy
kinda looks like a snail
strong isle
do u know if the hadean wilds would be its own update
Maybe there would be an Underworld update
It's one of the suggested minor updaes
dusk bronze
omg the Roller Skates ignores the chilled debuff 😭
and it cancels all fall damage on minecart tracks
mental geode
cuando sale la actu?
fathom girder
Roller skates are good when you have double jumps and when you have wings
they are NOT good when you are using rocket boots
they don't work with rocket boots
everything else works tho
dusk bronze
unfortunate
dusk bronze
oh lmao
fathom girder
ram spammers are gonna have a fucken hayday with that when the port is finished
dusk bronze
no
balmy fossil
how do you get the cat chime?
fathom girder
I think it works 100% accurately to ram rune in dead cells
safe zephyr
Are all the things from the changelogs coming in 2.1 (allegedly) around Jan or Feb
fathom girder
anyone here found the friendly rainbow boulder or the friendly boulder pet?
dusk bronze
Are all the things from the changelogs coming in 2.1 (allegedly) around Jan or F...
not all, but yeah
lapis oak
omg the false Dungeon Bricks
fathom girder
RIGHT???
dusk bronze
anyone here found the friendly rainbow boulder or the friendly boulder pet?
i got the pet
lapis oak
they don't break all at once anymore 😭
fathom girder
oh
not the thought process I thought you had
thought you were gonna like. make a ram rune reference
balmy fossil
how do you get the cat chime?
the wiki is useless
dull heart
ram rune is so funny
vanilla just was like
what if we did iron boots at the same tier
(they're not exactly the same but like... falling accessories lol)
lapis oak
Ram Rune gotten!!
fathom girder
honestly ram rune is what I thought those astral boots were gonna be
lapis oak
time to try out peak
fathom girder
like
rework astral boots to function like ram rune I'm ngl lmao
also this digtoise does not give a single shit he'll dig through whatever
hardy gulch
also this digtoise does not give a single shit he'll dig through whatever
||gigachad digtoise||
grave geyser
oh Ram Rune doesn't work with Roller Skates
what
why the hell not
all the things skates works with and not the other new item :/
fathom girder
oh Ram Rune doesn't work with Roller Skates
I'm off rn, can you confirm that ram rune does in fact grant iframes while you ram through targets
lapis oak
@dull heart btw when Cal get ported to 1.4.5 can you make Ram Rune have a dedicated button too 🥹
for people that use W as a jump button
pressing S and W is kinda awkward
grave geyser
5, hundred, hotkeys.
flat bear
at the risk of being summarily executed for mentioning whips, i’m wondering if the calamity devs are gonna do anything with new whips now that whip stacking is dead
grave geyser
stacking was already dead in 2,1
fathom girder
The whip rebalance ended up being similar to what doze was gonna do lul
lapis oak
5, hundred, hotkeys.
or double tap S works too
flat bear
oh okay lol
lapis oak
instead of Jump and Down and be double tap Down
fathom girder
and they can kinda go about their day as they already were without having to do anything too crazy
lapis oak
it's a better option for W jump users
grave geyser
I mean if anything the reason to give alternate controll schemes for ram rune is that it fucks with calamity's existing fastfall
lapis oak
double tap S doesn't fuck with fastfall?
fathom girder
both methods tap s so it doesn't mess with fastfall at all
lapis oak
the input is 1:1 how it's done in dead cells
also in Dead Cells you can change the input as it's a basic movement option
fathom girder
ye
oh that's neat
I was just gonna hit you with a fun fact, but you're way ahead of me
lul
lapis oak
you can double tap Down or hold Down as an alternate options in that game
blazing field
what if we did iron boots at the same tier
if iron boots are so good why isnt there iron boots 2
thorn pier
moonlord iron boots
tribal isle
for people that use W as a jump button
who
tribal isle
why
naive sluice
Its a 2D Game, up is jump
dull heart
for people that use W as a jump button
just use better controls
naive sluice
just use better controls
W for Jump erasure smh
dull heart
w for jump already has a handful of problems
boost, hover
i mean it's not impossible for ram rune to get a hotkey but
idk i'm not thinking about that yet
naive sluice
Hover is not that useful tbh
distant raft
W for Jump erasure smh
deserved
distant raft
Hover is not that useful tbh
naive sluice
Hover is not that useful tbh
especially in Cal
distant raft
hover gives you faster horizontal than seraph tracers directly after ml
naive sluice
you lose out on stats for making staying still on air slightly easier
tribal isle
Just use Z as a jump button it’s a pixel game
naive sluice
hover gives you faster horizontal than seraph tracers directly after ml
At a straight line
theres not many cases where i need that much speed in a single straight line agaisnt a boss
distant raft
with that kind of speed you do not need vertical
also the accel
a quarter of a second to top speed
lapis oak
i mean it's not impossible for ram rune to get a hotkey but
Ram Rune hotkey day 1 real
ok the Waterbolt Mimic actually drops Waterbolt that's crazy
naive sluice
hover is absurd
i do not need that much speed outside of niche scenarios²
i'd rather sacrifice niche use cases for extra stats than the opposite
unique warren
W tier list?
distant raft
"niche use cases" and its universally applicable stats
naive sluice
its going very fast in a straight line
naive sluice
its going very fast in a straight line
only in a straight line
unique warren
It's also being able to stay in a point without having to bob up and down
naive sluice
It's also being able to stay in a point without having to bob up and down
Mounts
unique warren
distant raft
mounts have several use cases
naive sluice
that's not comparable
yeah true cuz at least mounts dont consume your flight time when standing still in the air
tribal isle
Will they add portraits to calamity mod
unique warren
You get the point
distant raft
some mounts also have low accel and high deaccel
naive sluice
https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-laugh-laughing-gif-10107777875102130969
EMBEDDED FAILURE POINT AN LAUGH
distant raft
sometimes you want high accel like what hovers give you
naive sluice
that doesnt fucking matter
unique warren
❌❌❌❌
naive sluice
if ur using mounts to stay still then accel and deaccel do not fucking matter
distant raft
sometimes you also want low accel to move a tiny bit at a time
distant raft
if ur using mounts to stay still then accel and deaccel do not fucking matter
you are not hotswapping your wings mid boss
also it very much does matter
see: brimrose vs witch's broom
naive sluice
Yeah and im not needing to fly in a straight fucking line
distant raft
it's a lot easier to dodge dog's laser grid with broom than it is with brimrose because of the accel
unique warren
Is this rage bait 🤔
distant raft
tapping a key moves you a lot more with brimrose than it does with broom
naive sluice
but thats not staying still is it now
naive sluice
but thats not staying still is it now
im talking about staying still in the air
distant raft
i cannot think of a fight in which you want to stay perfectly still for several seconds
unique warren
Mounts only cal when
distant raft
especially because you count as moving when on a stationary flying mount
dull heart
i cannot think of a fight in which you want to stay perfectly still for several ...
go my toxic heart
naive sluice
especially because you count as moving when on a stationary flying mount
you know thats not what i mean bro
unique warren
Also, I believe activating mount does NOT get rid of any vertical speed you have
It just decelerates
hardy gulch
W tier list?
what even is the top tier
naive sluice
so you're saying that if you want more stable flight you should have LOWER accel, hmmmm now lets see at hover wings now
lofty valley
W tier list?
wait who's the one next to travelling merchant
distant raft
arms dealer
hardy gulch
shimmered traveler is more likely
naive sluice
Shimmered traveling merchant lo
looks like a granny
grave geyser
i cannot think of a fight in which you want to stay perfectly still for several ...
cv
distant raft
that line is arms dealer, travelling merchant, and shimmered travelling merchant in that order
ceaseless also demands more accel than broom has
lofty valley
oh it's shimmered travel merchant
hey so curious
how will modders approach npc portraits
hardy gulch
shimmered truffle is pretty funny
lofty valley
calamitas close up??
grave geyser
spriter hell
distant raft
shimmered truffle is pretty funny
why he lose an eye
unique warren
how will modders approach npc portraits
It would be kinda hard to nail the same art style
lofty valley
does calamity have to
unique warren
I doubt they wouldn’t
lofty valley
for every terraria sprite calamity would make it twice as detailed
hardy gulch
why he lose an eye
he bought a property in the desert biome
distant raft
shimmered cal npc portraits and there's big letters that read "THIS IS NOT CANON" at the top
unique warren
I mean I don’t see why it couldn’t be
Just make it a bodily change that happens via shimmer in the lore
Which is like, already what it is
stone zephyr
sure
modern grove
Did they find the code for dual dungeons secret seed
dull heart
I will not elaborate
dull heart
Did they find the code for dual dungeons secret seed
No
modern grove
Sadge
unique warren
I will not elaborate
Hm, yes. Peculiar.
unique warren
Very… circular
lofty valley
I will not elaborate
FINALLY THAT WEAPON IS GETTING REWORKED
dull heart
?
lofty valley
no?
dull heart
stratus sphere doesn't even exist right now
lofty valley
did I misinterpret?
lapis oak
I will not elaborate
Amogus
grave geyser
less of a rework and more "brought back from hell"
still bluff
lofty valley
same deal
dull heart
lofty valley
it used to be one of my fav weapons from its uniqueness
lyric trellis
It was certainly unique
still bluff
i wouldn't call its old function unique ngl
dull heart
well it's definitely one of a kind still
still bluff
boring as fuck
lapis oak
It was certainly unique
Big spiky ball
lofty valley
boring as fuck
yeah but like 6 years ago it was really cool
dull heart
https://tenor.com/view/stratus-sphere-calamity-mod-calamity-stratus-sphere-gif-2...
The fact this sprite was drawn additively
Kills me
Every time
lyric trellis
Big spiky ball
Missing the part where it’s the ultimate projectile shitter
dull heart
Missing the part where it’s the ultimate projectile shitter
Spikecragy ball
lyric trellis
True
lofty valley
can we make it do its old attack in getfixedboi
dull heart
No
lofty valley
:(
grave geyser
Spikecragy ball
could never best old crag I fear
lofty valley
well can't be mad since it's coming back :D
lapis oak
well can't be mad since it's coming back :D
Be mad now because I'll kill it
dull heart
I will not elaborate
not pictured here because it's not in the tooltip but I also had 643 armor pen
lyric trellis
Be mad now because I'll kill it
Who are you
lapis oak
The horror
dull heart
and at one point I also had a good 1000% crit damage
lofty valley
Be mad now because I'll kill it
nooo
lofty valley
and at one point I also had a good 1000% crit damage
classic calamity balancing
lapis oak
crazy that I've never had any troubles finding Shimmer it's so easy for me
just dig straight down in the beach shore
lofty valley
Question for the dev
unique warren
What world size…
lofty valley
Will there be sky block content when the port to 1.4.5 happens
lapis oak
What world size…
always large
lapis oak
✌️ 😊
grim pecan
I will not elaborate
it's gonna be so peak. y'all are gonna love it
lapis oak
I'll take it
distant raft
you actually dont want large on skyblock seed
lofty valley
crazy that I've never had any troubles finding Shimmer it's so easy for me
Typically it’s found opposite of the jungle side no?
grim pecan
what i'm referring to in this picture i will not elaborate on
lapis oak
Typically it’s found opposite of the jungle side no?
no it's Jungle side
distant raft
medium is pretty good and small is very good
lofty valley
no it's Jungle side
Ohh right
lapis oak
you know it because in Cal Dungeon side is Abyss
distant raft
you dont need room to fight bosses because its vanilla
lapis oak
I like large space
onyx pewter
when is calamity on 1.4.5?
onyx pewter
true
lofty valley
any new things to throw in Shimmer chat?
yourself
unique warren
any new things to throw in Shimmer chat?
Zenith :)
grave geyser
slime gun
unique warren
Oh, dope
naive sluice
I will not elaborate
bro dealing damage to air
naive sluice
what the fuck is a stratus dawg
distant raft
you were right devs #keepstratusdead
naive sluice
better boost than Magi 😭
yeah but it doesnt apply to platforms
lapis oak
same thing can be said for Asphalt
naive sluice
Yeah
dusty tinsel
Throw yourself in the aether
lapis oak
throw you in the aether
unique warren
Kiri’s what
blazing field
what the fuck is a stratus dawg
Bring it back you cowards #stratusgang
hardy gulch
i think we should introduce legally distinct stratus sphere
dusty tinsel
Kiri’s what
Kiri
dusty tinsel
Rearranging Kiri's furniture, but only slightly so kiri knows something is wrong, but can't figure out what
Along with the rest of the rooms
lapis oak
😠
hardy gulch
what is kiri's pfp
dusty tinsel
Anime kiri
stone fiber
current estimate is september
SSO SEPTEMBER OCTOBER LET'S GOOO 
stone fiber
I will not elaborate
"Inane" 
tropic jolt
stratus status
dull heart
Aetherium Block increase movement speed?
No, it's just ice
dull heart
it increase accel and deccel
Do you have ice skates
surreal tide
when da update
surreal tide
(less than a month)
Alr
lapis oak
No, it's just ice
oh shoot I forgot I have Frostspark
that's why it doesn't slip
yoooo
I think Sunfury and Blue Moon interaction is so nice but how are you supposed to figure that one out lol
if not accidentally
dull heart
yeah it's so wacky
lapis oak
idk which one is better but finally it's now useful for the combo lol
no longer useless
dull heart
idk which one is better but finally it's now useful for the combo lol
Sunfury is better as the primary flail
Because it's just a better flail so you want to be able to aim it better
lapis oak
gladly that's the one that aim at the mouse cursor
steep path
am i insane or is hell way bluer than i remember
actually maybe it's just that i don't have lights and shadows in vanilla lol
blazing field
its called blue humour buddy
stone fiber
Inane is a word lol
Right I'm stupid 
Wait I've just noticed this what
Chat is this true 
sharp ravine
molten grove
the tf2 vanity set in the reply
hot wadi
I will not elaborate
Tornado ahh rework
blazing field
holy shit i got the evil fish
i was made a lake in the dungeon because i wanted to get dungeon crates 🥹
stone fiber
holy shit i got the evil fish
lapis oak
first kill Unicorn I got the mount and second kill Pixie Megaphone 😭
hardy gulch
holy shit i got the evil fish
i swear to god i remember salmon being rare as hell in my last vanilla (or modded) playthrough
stone fiber
So, is the perennial jade going to be called that or jewel of life?
(Also, please don't remove Scoria 
)
blazing field
excuse me what the hell is this 😭 ??
blazing field
i swear to god i remember salmon being rare as hell in my last vanilla (or modde...
salmon for some reason despite being literally just a normal food fish requires extremely specific conditions to be able to be caught
its almost never caught in an average playthrough becasue of it
we had a talk abt this while triangle was spriting the haunted chum or wtv it wasc alled
hardy gulch
turns out salmon is caught in the forest or sky, but you need more than 1,000 tiles of water to do so
mystic eagle
excuse me what the hell is this 😭 ??
Petah, the horse is here
hardy gulch
iirc vanilla doesn't generate lakes of that size
blazing field
yeah either u need to get wacky worldgen or make one ujrself
spark kiln
excuse me what the hell is this 😭 ??
eclipse during halloween or smthn
hardy gulch
excuse me what the hell is this 😭 ??
||during Dont Dig Up or GFB, the Solar Eclipse's arrival message is changed to reflect the world's lack of sun||
modern grove
excuse me what the hell is this 😭 ??
It's eclipse in don't dig up and adjacent seeds
There's no sun so technically a solar eclipse can't happen
So the status message is just referring to horrors
hidden belfry
That's... Scary
modern grove
||during Dont Dig Up or GFB, the Solar Eclipse's arrival message is changed to r...
Nvm they already said it all
modern grove
That's... Scary
Getting to the surface in don't dig up worlds is peak horror experience
It's incredibly tense
tropic plover
What comes first: tModLoader for 1.4.5, or mod for tModLoader that adds 1.4.5 content?
Collecting guesses
modern grove
One wrong move and you're done for
hidden belfry
What comes first: tModLoader for 1.4.5, or mod for tModLoader that adds 1.4.5 co...
tModloader 1.4.5 definitely
hidden belfry
One wrong move and you're done for
How bad is it
modern grove
The whole surface is covered in evil biome
Enemies are buffed and their spawn rates are increased
The gravity is weaker and almost like how it is in space
And again there's no sun
So it's constantly dark
Also fallen stars can kill you
hidden belfry
Okay that's hell
blazing field
So the status message is just referring to horrors
oh 😭
modern grove
The whole surface is covered in evil biome
Also I believe you can't get rid of those evils even if you cleanse it all
hidden belfry
Also I believe you can't get rid of those evils even if you cleanse it all
The evil must spread
modern grove
Like the evil tiles will change to normal ones but the surface will still be considered an evil biome and enemies will still spawn
still bluff
the horror
hidden belfry
the horror
modern grove
I haven't seen any secret seed combos but the only new secret seed I saw that I think can be as cool as don't dig up is dual dungeons
But the horrors don't let anyone play it yet
blazing field
The Horrors
modern grove
Cheese you should consider the worldbuilding potential of the don't dig up world
It's soooo cool
blazing field
Cheese you should consider the worldbuilding potential of the don't dig up world
its like reverse uhh
whats that game
im not human or smething
instead of sun evil and evil ghouls start showing up its sun Gone and evil ghouls start showing up
jaunty hawk
entropy best dlc
queen umbra
anyone knows how to put the banners back into the banner pouch thing?
or once it's out you can't put it back anymore?
split ginkgo
excuse me what the hell is this 😭 ??
solar eclipse
blazing field
shocked you dont have the uhh
never actually ended up getting rod before now
amber egret
no the other one
blazing field
it was on my long bucket list of items i needed to get for 100% journey completion but i hadnt gotten to it because
annoying
amber egret
the Sun
blazing field
oh yeah i just dont know how to get that one tbh
😭
i should just check the wiki
ive already been doiung that for other thing sanyways
oh
lol
its just that
yeah alright
one more down! yay!
tribal isle
did melee even get anything in 1.4.5 besides the flint
jagged copper
can foxparks spawn on evil grass?
candid mist
I'm trying 
blazing field
yippe
now i need to uhh
complete bestiary which i almost am anyways, get rod of discord, survive boulder rain and give a joja cola to dryad
oh and the die as a hardcore thing
orchid finch
oh and the die as a hardcore thing
need help with that?
blazing field
i have no idea how to get it lo
barren nacelle
i have no idea how to get it lo
Do you want to be told or do you wanna figure it out
unique warren
Who would win, supreme witch calamitas or a moose (supersonic speeds)
pale silo
Dead cells reference!!
Idek if it's a reference, as it's a direct collab
orchid finch
yeah
like
the whole thing of 1.4.5 was that they collabed with Dead Cells
and then it grew bigger
orchid finch
Palworld joined in later
pale silo
In dev
orchid finch
yeah
pale silo
They collabed?
But yeah there's plenty of other stuff from dead cells too
Just realised smth
Palworld is now on the switch kinda
At least palworld content
Peak comedy
real axle
But yeah there's plenty of other stuff from dead cells too
What else is from dead cells?
I can't find it on the wiki
pale silo
I don't exactly know, haven't done digging. But yknow the vial display things? That's in
Same for vanity
And blocks
And some other weapons
fierce nebula
The wiki is still very outdated
pale silo
It'll take some time
orchid finch
okay let me drop some
tribal isle
so what from palworld was added
orchid finch
Flint
Killing Deck
Ram Rune
Mushroom Boi
The Beheaded set
Alchemy Flash which I don't remember the og name of
Swarm Grenade
Barnacle summon thingy
and the hanging flasks
real axle
Flint
Killing Deck
Ram Rune
Mushroom Boi
The Beheaded set
Alchemy Flash which I ...
YO WHAT
That's alot
orchid finch
so what from palworld was added
6 new pals, 2 being variants
tribal isle
pals? like town pets?
real axle
And mushroom boi
pale silo
Iirc some summon weapons too
orchid finch
Digtoise
Cattiva
Foxparks
Chillet
Chillet Ignis
oh nevermind there are 5
and Pal Metal armor
real axle
Ok this is sick
orchid finch
Digtoise is a digging thing
Cattiva is a summon
Foxparks is a summon/flamethrower
Chillets are mounts
pale silo
Yupa
lean root
can i play modded server with the new update?
pale silo
No, pins explains
tribal isle
is the true copper shortsword canon to calamity mod
pale silo
It's gonna be shadowspec
versed heart
did melee even get anything in 1.4.5 besides the flint
Multiple weapon reworks & changes
random crag
Summoner finally got early game love I adore it
unique warren
Honestly I really wanna have a combat update next
orchid finch
~~It's gonna be shadowspec~~
I thought it has the same stats as Zenith?
pale silo
tbh from what ive seen, the main bit of the update is an insane world gen overhaul + customization with ofc all the other balance changes
pale silo
I thought it has the same stats as Zenith?
yeah
tribal isle
I thought it has the same stats as Zenith?
yes
orchid finch
ah alright
pale silo
its just a reskin rn
versed heart
Right now only things I wish were different was ||Mushroom Boi||, since it seems really weak for when you get it, and ||portraits not having an option to turn them off||
pale silo
but my bets is someone is gonna make it locked behind scal/exos when it does get to 1.4.5
make another shadow spec melee weapon cause funni
tribal isle
true copper shortsword meta against exos
pale silo
unironically yeah
pale silo
Right now only things I wish were different was ||Mushroom Boi||, since it seems...
texture packs exist
tho ig you cant for console
versed heart
Right now only things I wish were different was ||Mushroom Boi||, since it seems...
I don't mind ||portraits||, but obviously other people will and do (including people on mobile or console)
pale silo
p sure mobile can though?
versed heart
For mobile I'm not sure if it's obvious
If it's possible but unclear, then an option would still be nice
pale silo
Yeah
Tbf the main issue with "workshop" content not being on other devices is the differing code bases. Which I'm sure cross play will assist with. Ofc Xbox/ps may be stubborn but shall have to see
tribal isle
is snapthorn still early game meta
pale silo
The whip meta hasn't changed really. It's just using multiple whips don't benefit summons/sentries as much now
unique warren
It doesn’t benefit them at all now
pale silo
It still has minor benefits
tribal isle
The whip meta hasn't changed really. It's just using multiple whips don't benefi...
so kaleidoscope is still the best?
pale silo
The alt effects still trigger
unique warren
And then immediately turn off when you swap back
pale silo
so kaleidoscope is still the best?
That was nerfed, p sure stardust gives good stuff
pale silo
And then immediately turn off when you swap back
Alt effects ≠ direct buffs
The direct buffs turn off
The alt effects dont
unique warren
Pretty sure everything does
pale silo
All the whip stack yeet did was make whips only a proper class Vs making tag damage skyrocket to game breaking levels
Well
Sub class
You can still do it. For one swing per whip
So you do still get benefits. Just not as insane as before
unique warren
No??? It also destroyed any good secondary whip usage
pale silo
Nope
unique warren
Yes
pale silo
I'm not saying whip stacking hasn't been destroyed...when you stare at sentry/summon damage
unique warren
It has been entirely destroyed tho
pale silo
Ignore sentry/summon damage, it still benefits you
unique warren
I am
pale silo
Like look at the dot application factor, as an example. Or the ones that spawns extra attacks
I'm not talking ab summon crit/tag damage
Or the whip speed buff
pale silo
Main point of the extra attacks bit anyways, is they getting "reset" also helps
But yes, whip stacking is dead from its old "new" term. (Originally whip stacking was the whip only meta shredding everything)
It is now just a lesser version of the first meaning
unique warren
It’s literally just the nearly inconsequential debuffs now
Which literally any class can do
pale silo
It is still a subclass of a class that isn't even meant to attack
The fact it even can attack is a mirical
pale silo
Whips were meant to be the support weapon to the support weapons
fierce nebula
Ip grabber
unique warren
Ip grabber
pale silo
(the original support was sentries)
Not the main source of damage increase
The targeting feature was alr a thing before whips was added
unique warren
Okay yeah getting rid of tag damage was necessary
pale silo
Oh absolutely
unique warren
But the buffs? Additional effects?
pale silo
Though I'm sure they'll tune whips into their own proper sub class
Just give them time
unique warren
And don’t settle for some “we’re lucky we have whips at all” bs
pale silo
Like how bows only/guns only/swords only etc
fierce nebula
Each whip stack should multiply the summon’s damage by 2
pale silo
And don’t settle for some “we’re lucky we have whips at all” bs
Never was intending that
fierce nebula
I fixed terraria
pale silo
I was just stating that people has lost the entire vision for what summoner is
Namely those that do hyper aggressive (basically) melee as summoner
unique warren
No, the vision has changed
pale silo
Ehh no
Whips was the weapon to use when your summons was targeting something else
Because yeah the ai is jank at times
fierce nebula
Whips need point blank damage
unique warren
🤦♀️
fierce nebula
🫧 🐠
pale silo
I do think they went overboard with the actual whip damage nerf
But the tag/crit stacking needed to be yeeted
unique warren
Sure
But the issue is that non-tag stacking was smth that made summoner incredibly unique
pale silo
Yeah and tbh from the looks of things, they'll probably readd that stuff
It's better to balance something with more of an explosion, then repair the damage
jagged copper
still no foxparks god damnit
fierce nebula
🎶 🎷🐛
orchid finch
fine you win
unique warren
Yeah and tbh from the looks of things, they'll probably readd that stuff
They fuckin better
pale silo
We shall have to wait and see
And tbh worst case, modded will.
Even as a standalone mod
(tho let's be honest. All theyll do is revert, not remove the problem)
stone fiber
You know, I've just thought about this
Since sahara slicers were originally pretty much the same as submarine shocker but then got reworked, SS will eventually be reworked as well, right?
unique warren
You know, I've just thought about this
Since sahara slicers were originally pret...
Do not abbreviate it like that 😭
tribal isle
poor melee has been neglected for years
kindred night
Do not abbreviate it like that 😭
modern grove
poor melee has been neglected for years
That's mage
unique warren
poor melee has been neglected for years
I am pretty sure this update has done a decent bit for melee
modern grove
Melee constantly got everything in the world
tribal isle
I am pretty sure this update has done a decent bit for melee
they added flint and a zenith reskin
unique warren
And reworked weapons
modern grove
They changed around some other melee weapons I believe
tribal isle
like what
tribal isle
i didnt know that weapon existed
modern grove
Phasesabers
blazing field
obsidian swordfish my glorious king best weapon in the game
wise bolt
cheese
unique warren
Keybrand
tribal isle
Phasesabers
phaseblades are the same?
blazing field
tofu
unique warren
Ale tossed is melee now
wise bolt
look ar my worm cheese
modern grove
I don't remember their naming scheme I always call both lightsabers
unique warren
Paladin Hammer got changed
tribal isle
does the rainbow lightsaber give anything extra or it just looks cool
unique warren
Flairon too
wise bolt
roydev art disc
blazing field
this is like the most badass weapon ever
it should be buffed to be stronger than zenith
wise bolt
i concur
fierce nebula
Fish
modern grove
I like using living breathing beings as weapons without their consent
fierce nebula
Fish
blazing field
yes cheese you can use me as a sword said the obsidian swordfish
unique warren
uses as spear
fierce nebula
Why is it a spear
modern grove
Imagine using it like a club
wise bolt
thwack
modern grove
Grab its nose and slam enemies with its body
fierce nebula
They should add fish to terraria
blazing field
thats true i agree
modern grove
I think spirit reforged and/or classic do have a fish club weapon
fierce nebula
This is why spirit mod is the best mod
modern grove
This is true
blazing field
also think its funny how the flint is very similar to spirit reforged clubs in functionality
modern grove
A even
blazing field
yeah its straighjt up just a huge bass
versed heart
This is why spirit mod is the best mod
This is also why Calamity Fables having special compatibility with Spirit Reforged makes it the 2nd best mod
unique warren
yeah its straighjt up just a huge bass
Woah just like in Kirby
modern grove
yeah its straighjt up just a huge bass
This fucking bass that I hate (slams it 3 times in a row)
fierce nebula
Calamity fables has zero content
unique warren
Fih
modern grove
Calamity fables has zero content
Calamity player mindset
Fables has like the coolest building materials
fierce nebula
It’s literally unfinished
unique warren
Have any of y’all checked out the AA remake
modern grove
It’s literally unfinished
Yes but
unique warren
It looks cool asf so far
modern grove
Also fables sunken sea will have 80+ tiles
fierce nebula
It looks cool asf so far
Yeah I like what’s there but there’s not enough for me to care right now
modern grove
And most of those are already finished I'm pretty sure
unique warren
Yeah I like what’s there but there’s not enough for me to care right now
Seems to be quite a common theme for you
vivid hemlock
fables is very awesome i love marieark's furniture style
fierce nebula
Seems to be quite a common theme for you
I played the entire mod in a couple of hours 🥀
vivid hemlock
you gotta play the game slower
modern grove
It's fun I promise
fierce nebula
Like genuinely open up to building
I used to build back when I played more
unique warren
I played the entire mod in a couple of hours 🥀
And was it fun
fierce nebula
And was it fun
Never said it wasn’t
unique warren
Then is epic
blazing field
If i have one critique to give to spirit reforged is that its item balance seems kinda wacky in some spots, like some accessories are kinda just Bad and are quickly discarded, but i suppose that may be because they'll get upgrades in the future that don't Exist yet since the mod is just preboss content atm
Also i think having this many different multiclass preboss armorset is a little odd
Botanist armor is cool though i like that one
It's a nice little preboss set that gives you mobility and all that, it makes sense
unique warren
Yeah that is a bit weird since pre-boss is quite prolific with multiclass armors as is
blazing field
This one is kind of weird but i guess they wanted to make a counterpart to gladiator...?
Like it just feels like kind of a useless armorset frankly
Ig "useless" isn't the right term
Just
pseudo vector
i haven't played fables or spirit reforged yet since i want to wait until there's more content to play them
blazing field
unappealing and easily outclasses
pseudo vector
i'd like to be able to play the mod for more than a couple hours before i finish everything in it lol
unique warren
I do wish there were more multiclass armors in vanilla
blazing field
I remember using this one alot its a very nice exploration armorset
unique warren
A set that properly gives damage and crit buffs and a couple summon slots (but not as many as on-tier summoner armors)
vivid hemlock
vanilla and its 50 5 helmet armor sets
atleast they added hm upgrades for fishing and mining gear
blazing field
Plus it being sort of the armor equivalent of gold chest loot is fun
blazing field
atleast they added hm upgrades for fishing and mining gear
Kinda boring that they're just defense increases and that they're just crafted with the previous sets + mythril bars
But eh
i'll take it
Plus atleast they look cool too
unique warren
w list?
vivid hemlock
Kinda boring that they're just defense increases and that they're just crafted w...
dang i didnt know what their stats would be but ig relogic would do that
blazing field
yeah theyre the same exact thing as the previous sets
but they have more defense
same exact buffs and set bonuses
vivid hemlock
🥹
unique warren
That isn't an awful change tbf 😭
blazing field
That isn't an awful change tbf 😭
Like it's fine but damn
is it kinda really boring
both the way you obtain them and what they actually do
unique warren
THE GOBLIN?
What's up?
fierce nebula
Witch doctor is S+ tier
unique warren
Perhaps...
blazing field
my favorite is the wizard
unique warren
It's crazy how shimmer fr transed his gender
blazing field
he looks like hes gonna sell me illicit substances
which is in character
i love funny crazy wizards
unique warren
He is cool
unique warren
I love the eyebrow raise
worn surge
Calamitas portraits are gonna make the community feel things, aren't they
unique warren
They are
hasty tangle
people were gonna feel things anyway
blazing field
unfortunately
worn surge
Oh hey gp how's it goin
hasty tangle
alright
blazing field
there's gonna be that one person who'll feel things for permafrost's portrait instead. theyre a real one
unique warren
Make calamitas absolutely chopped fr fr
fierce nebula
Npc portraits RUINED calamity mod!?!?!?
worn surge
Did Drunk princess got thanos'd after the incident?
blazing field
yes
hasty tangle
sent to the adios dimension
worn surge
So that's one less portrait
modern grove
I don't really like most npc portraits except for bunnies
Bunnies have cute and nice portraits
fierce nebula
I don't really like most npc portraits except for bunnies
But… witch doctor…
modern grove
He's fine I suppose
blazing field
the wizard portrait feels like the most throudonpilled thing ever im shocked
modern grove
Better than most
worn surge
What does the vampire seed do in 1.4.5
blazing field
it makes you burn in the sun
it kills you
also you can get some vampire themed loot from chests that you usually have to get through other means ig
worn surge
"can you beat calamity ball slapping mode as a vampire no hit??" Videos incoming
modern grove
Most npc portraits are kinda too clean and look the same
fierce nebula
What
worn surge
(I forgot the name of that really hard mod that makes calamity harder)
unique warren
Most npc portraits are kinda too clean and look the same
I disagree...
worn surge
Infernum?
modern grove
Like old man looks pristine and super handsome
unique warren
Excuse me?
unique warren
modern grove
Idk how that happened
unique warren
Dude looks fuckin deranged
modern grove
Props to his barber he looks like the richest homeless man on earth
stark quail
you casn only get it from lava fishing, and the hotline fishing rod is hardmode only and the other two lava fishing items require hellstone bars???
fierce nebula
Most npc portraits are kinda too clean and look the same
The guide has the key to everyone’s room- nah get out 💀 💀 💀 💀 😳
unique warren
you casn only get it from lava fishing, and the hotline fishing rod is hardmode ...
golden bug net
modern grove
Also I like the skin tone on old man npc sprite way more than on his portrait
Hes very pale and sickly
unique warren
Fair
blazing field
I think it's fine for most portraits but in someone like the old man it feels too clean yea
they couldve went harder with making things gritty and ugly in some spots
modern grove
Okay my biggest critique for the portrait that involves the "art style" is
Most of them lack personalities 😭 like vanilla npcs are very simple characters but they have their character quirk up front and it's very exaggerated. Terraria in general is kinda like this, it's very silly and exaggerated. But portraits look... Idk kinda generic? They don't really show the npc personality at all in most cases, and kinda look like, idk, a typical pixelart indie game portraits
I don't think they were a bad addition, they clearly have a lot texture pack potential which I'm excited about
Waiting for Vinh portraits texture pack 🙏
unique warren
Idk they all feel quite distinct for me idk
modern grove
Okay my biggest critique for the portrait that involves the "art style" is
Most...
My point is terraria is very over the top and exaggerated and portraits look safe
blazing field
Alot of the portraits are kinda just basic in their expression yeah
They could've been a bit more expressive in some cases
unique warren
I suppose, but I kinda like them having more default expressions
blazing field
Which is further reinforcement the wizard is the best one because look at that motherfucker look at his raised eyebrows look at him
unique warren
I like the truffle a lotttt
modern grove
Wizard is fun
modern grove
Also unrelated but a lot of them are too young in my opinion
unique warren
Eh?
modern grove
They were drawn by crowno
blazing field
in stardew these sort of basic idle portraits work bc the npcs have other portraits besides just the default neutral expression
they have angry expressions when angry, sad expressions when sad, etc
unique warren
Only one I thought was younger than expected was traveling merchant
blazing field
but in terraria its just 1 so having a more neutral expression dosen't end up expressing the npc's personawlity as well
unique warren
And honestly I don't hate that
modern grove
Old man, for being an old man, doesn't have a single wrinkle or anything to indicate that he's old!
blazing field
i'm old!
modern grove
Besides the hair
blazing field
siad hte old man
candid mist
and Pal Metal armor
wait fr? how do you get it