calamity-update-talk

[naive sluice]

without having one or the other suffer

[chrome totem]

I got exo stuff super early and used it for decoration

[orchid finch]

okay, I've played some Skyblock, here's my verdict

This is not my cup of tea

[trail brook]

Sooo.. when we expect the sunken sea update release date

[naive sluice]

it definitely skies block doesnt it

[spiral tree]

Someday

[orchid finch]

I am not having fun dying every 5 seconds to wait 15 to respawn

[naive sluice]

A month ago

[orchid finch]

all to get a single crystal heart

[naive sluice]

the 15 seconds to respawn is genuinely the worst part about terraria

[uncut gazelle]

I'm still not sure why the respawn timer is always 15 seconds in singleplayer especially

[naive sluice]

its so unnecessary and annoying

[spiral tree]

Yaaa if single player it should be 3 secs maybe just to give bosses enough time to dispawn

But in multiplayer seems fine 15 secs to not make it too easy

[orchid finch]

the Calamity way is what I prefer honestly

15 while boss is alive, 3 while no boss

[naive sluice]

do the solution modders do and they despawn if there is no one alive

[mellow spade]

yeah it's... kind of boring, i'm not gonna lie

[frail owl]

meow

[orchid finch]

it is an interesting concept, credit where it's due

[chrome totem]

Funny enough I think this is my best looking base out of every I've built

[orchid finch]

I definitely should try doing it on like, Journey instead

but for now I'd like to have a somewhat normal playthrough

[chrome totem]

The long ass bridge was for OOA

[frail owl]

maybe i should start a new playthrough in journey mode

[naive sluice]

im probably waiting until TModloader updates to make fully play 1.4.5

[naive sluice]

Vanilla terraria is just not it anymore for me tbh

[orchid finch]

weak aura

[frail owl]

perhaps i can feel invigorated by doing so because my enthusiasm for the game has kind of subsided over the last couple of months

[chrome totem]

Lack of Boss Checklist, Recipe Browser and Calamity's overall QoL stuff 🥀

[naive sluice]

True...

[frail owl]

now that i'm no longer lurking in servers and updates on the mods i anticipate are currently progressing in a relatively sluggish pace

[mellow spade]

my mistake was doing skyblock on a large world

[spiral tree]

Lack of early mode skip trust

[frail owl]

i mean the crafting ui has been improved significantly

[unkempt grove]

hopefully you're all enjoying the update and skyblock

[naive sluice]

no OE ore multiplier also compiles with the lack of QoL

[frail owl]

maybe that could alleviate your issue

[frail owl]

i'm fine

[chrome totem]

Tbh I haven't fully gotten used to it

[frail owl]

just feeling a bit contentious over whipstacking's removal

[chrome totem]

It is convenient but also muscle memory messes me up

[frail owl]

and also where's my dualdungeons seed?

[naive sluice]

not only it feels so slow but you have to mine for so long only to get a single set of ore armour that makes it genuinely not worth going for them

[spiral tree]

I didn't even update yet just on my bed talking like if I know smth about it

[frail owl]

did they forget a hash or something?

[lapis oak]

DUDE holy fuck sgm post jump scare on my Twitter

now I'm scared

😨

[spiral tree]

What is a sgm

[frail owl]

dualdungeons seed on pc please

i need it

the seed kind of reminds me of how story of red cloud structured its' map

[mellow spade]

well maybe it's redcloud or something

could be an obscure reference

[uncut gazelle]

Shyguymask

[spiral tree]

Shy guy from mkw

[mellow spade]

apparently zenith + drunk + not the bees + celebration + for the worthy + no traps + iamerror gives you an ungodly fucked up abomination

iamerror feels like a 2013 creepypasta ngl

i kinda love it

[grave wasp]

idk i should play calamity or terraria

[uncut gazelle]

What is the post?

[spiral tree]

Is calamity a separate game or smth

[mellow spade]

play the new terraria update then hopefully in a couple weeks new calamity update

[spiral tree]

I'm pretty sure if u play calamity u are playing terraria

[mellow spade]

i think 2.1 is planned for Q1 2026 iirc

[uncut gazelle]

Technically yes

[mellow spade]

it plays like one

[spiral tree]

[mellow spade]

for all intents and purposes, calamity != terraria

[spiral tree]

I was happy the other day I saw someone working on calamity but for hytale

It seems funnn

[grave wasp]

calamity factorial equals terraria....?

what?

[uncut gazelle]

tModLoader is a separate game, and it'll be stuck on 1.4.4.9 for the next 10 months or so

[spiral tree]

True

[mellow spade]

not equals

[uncut gazelle]

!= means "doesn't equal to"

[dry whale]

≠

simple

[grave wasp]

i thought its [thing]! and = is by itself

[spiral tree]

Meow

[mellow spade]

what's the alt code?

[grave wasp]

true

[uncut gazelle]

The puter doesn't have this symbol, sorry

[spiral tree]

My phone neither

[dry whale]

shame

[spiral tree]

[uncut gazelle]

Hold the equal symbol

[dry whale]

I hold = for it

[uncut gazelle]

≠

[dry whale]

maybe that helps

[grave wasp]

:crossed-equal-sign:

[spiral tree]

Oh

Hehe

[grave wasp]

damn

i tired

[spiral tree]

Sorry last time I used a phone was 6 years ago

≈≠∞ wow

[grave wasp]

=

i made a fucking burger

[fast vessel]

So how are the devs planning to balance after what’s going down in 1.4.5?

[spiral tree]

By not moving to 1.4.5

[barren hollow]

They have like a year so I'm sure they'll figure it out

[dry whale]

balancing is simple

[rich ginkgo]

just saw sockrteez's video on the ||new whips||, literally what the fuck is the ||possession||

[dry whale]

you dont

[uncut gazelle]

Now that is the talk about the update we all wanted share! Discovering new symbols!

[dry whale]

true!

[uncut gazelle]

Whip x3

[grave wasp]

i think we js need to leave it like it is rn

[rich ginkgo]

cant wait for the cal ultra nerf

[mellow spade]

behold, sea of tentacles

[grave wasp]

moonlord's whip

[spiral tree]

Exactly »

[uncut gazelle]

And an on-hit effect, because why wouldn't it have one

[dry whale]

←↑↓→

crazy symbols

[fast vessel]

Gear designed for endgame stuff like the Zenith, which means either calamity will make it post Yharon or gut it so hard it’s unusable.

[spiral tree]

Ω

[grave wasp]

ъ

[lapis oak]

It's an ultimate endgame gear

[rich ginkgo]

it definitely wont be post yharon lol

[dry whale]

μ

[lapis oak]

Understandable tbh

[rich ginkgo]

it's just gonna be nerfed into oblivion

[mellow spade]

why's half the chat talking like W.D. Gaster

[grave wasp]

is it an omega

[lapis oak]

Most likely yea

[orchid finch]

what's going on

[spiral tree]

‡

[uncut gazelle]

The latter, but I think they'll find the right balance

[lapis oak]

90% damage decrease

[uncut gazelle]

...many things

[spiral tree]

Zeus your son has returned

[dry whale]

don't trigger my ptsd or I will actually talk in wingdings

[fast vessel]

Which sucks. Calamity does this with a lot of vanilla stuff to make you use modded and it’s really annoying.

[mellow spade]

beware of the man who speaks in hands

[orchid finch]

ARES

[grave wasp]

btw, is there a new boss in vanilla?

[uncut gazelle]

¢№&_±[>/

[orchid finch]

no new bosses

[mellow spade]

kind of

[grave wasp]

i heard they made a boulder boss

[spiral tree]

§

[grave wasp]

wym

[mellow spade]

there's an homage to Chippy

[grave wasp]

what

[spiral tree]

That guy died in gow... 1?

[grave wasp]

whos chippy

[dry whale]

chippy gaming

[mellow spade]

if you sit on a chippy's couch with the clothier voodoo doll equipped at night around the clothier, you fight skeletron but Chippy

[dry whale]

terraria youtuber

[orchid finch]

ChippyGaming

[rich ginkgo]

i mean can you blame them, vanilla ml drops are balanced with the idea of being endgame with nothing left to do so might as well make them op as fuck because it's funny

[grave wasp]

?????

[mellow spade]

(it's just Legendary AI skeletron wearing a Chippy hat)

[uncut gazelle]

This mindset seems to be disappearing after a certain individual has left the team

[shell cloud]

so im assuming that the update will take a little longer because of the compatibility stuff right, and still no date ?

[grave wasp]

"bro its john terraria how can u not know him"

[spiral tree]

They still need to update tmodloader first

Wich might take some months

Then the mods

[mellow spade]

why are people surprised at this? vanilla progression ends at moon lord. calamity goes way past it. of course they have to nerf all the fun vanilla stuff because vanilla gear wasn't supposed to be balanced post-ML just like how shadowspec gear isn't designed to be balanced in calamity

[dry whale]

imagine if clothier had a youtube channel

[rich ginkgo]

tbh all they have to do is just nerf its damage and its fine

[dry whale]

ok you have chippy now

[shell cloud]

big rip

[grave wasp]

will take 2x the time 1.4.5 vanilla took to drop

btw

[rich ginkgo]

^

[mellow spade]

you joke but Chippy pretty much is John Terraria

or well, James Terraria

[fast vessel]

Looking at how they make the jump to Providence so large that basically none of the direct ML drops are usable, I don’t have much confidence.

[lapis oak]

Kaleidoscope, Mourning Star, Sunfury, Dao of Pow, Zenith, Dark Lance, Terra Blade, Angel Wings, Fairy Boots, Snapthorn hello like what are we even talking about

[uncut gazelle]

Brainstorm will probably be released in the next month, because it is seemingly almost finished and tMod wouldn't be updated for practically the next year

[grave wasp]

bro i dont know who is chippy

[lapis oak]

Vanilla stuff are not bad

[mellow spade]

a fair amount of ML drops are viable on providence

terrarian is a legit really strong yoyo
celebration mk.2 is... usable
same with last prism

[lapis oak]

Unsaveable vanilla stuff are still unsaveable

They are already bad by designs

[mellow spade]

there's some honestly really strong mid-HM vanilla gear

north pole is really, really good on Leviathan and Aureus

[dry whale]

mandatory coin gun mention

[lapis oak]

Like what you mean

Paper Plane

[spiral tree]

I only play ranger

[fast vessel]

Viable, yes, but the best options are so many leagues ahead it’s absurd. Look at the lunar flare compared to something like the Effervescence.

[spiral tree]

[mellow spade]

well yeah but that's a consequence of most of post-ML having to compensate for itself

because there's no framework to build off of

[lapis oak]

Ok look at Kaleidoscope compared to almost everything

?

[grave wasp]

should i js skip all the reamining bosses and kill wof

[mellow spade]

unlike the first 2/3rds of the mod where there's at least vanilla stuff to build off of

[dry whale]

post moonlord vanilla is not balanced beacuse what the hell do you balance it around

[mellow spade]

that's why there's like, a million post-ML items and of course only a few are truly the meta

[grave wasp]

not that much tbh

[mellow spade]

which just so happen to mostly be calamity items

[fast vessel]

Kaleidoscope was so OP is base game tho it literally got two nerfs in 1.4.5. Also, it kinda has to be OP in calamity since there are no other whips.

[mellow spade]

Kaleidoscope is unchanged in Calamity

Well, specifically it's not

[lapis oak]

It is changed what

[mellow spade]

Whip tag damage was changed from additive to multiplicative

But that affects all whips

Not specifically Kaleidoscope

It's just Kaleidoscope benefits the most from that

[dry whale]

it's changed but it's not a specific kaleido change

[lapis oak]

Yeah that was an example

[dry whale]

it's a really small change

[fast vessel]

Yeah, but that’s one out of everything. Kaleidescope needed to be OP because it was your last whip in both calamity and vanilla. Now it’s nerfed since there’s the stardust whip and ML whip.

[mellow spade]

that... makes sense to me?

[dry whale]

it was nerfed?

[lapis oak]

It was not nerfed

[fast vessel]

Yeah. 180->170 damage. Multitarget DR was increased.

[mellow spade]

"we added new items at this stage of the game, so we had to nerf the thing that previously carried you throughout this stage because otherwise there's no need to use the new stuff which defeats the point"

[late trellis]

Its nerf or nothing

[mellow spade]

i fail to see the issue with that

[fast vessel]

In 1.4.5. Still the same in calamity.

[fast vessel]

Don’t add new items between ML and Providence and nerf Providence to make her on tier with ML gear. Or keep Providence as she is, leave ML whip unchanged, and buff all ML drops to compensate. There’s already a full kit of post ML gear dropped from ML. It doesn’t need new stuff. The terraprisma, which is the endgame summon weapon, is useless against providence, so much so it needed an upgrade to work.

[mellow spade]

the mod is almost ten years old there's only so much they can do in terms of fitting calamity content around vanilla content

[dry whale]

isn't terraprisma nerfed in cal

[mellow spade]

"nerfed" as if it still doesn't obliterate late hardmode

but yes it's slightly nerfed

[dry whale]

I know but still

[blazing field]

This would inevitably not really work the moment they add actual post ml content

Ideally you are not going to fight providence immediately after ml because there's gonna be actual Stuff to do in post moon lord

[fast vessel]

And it’s still unfinished though, because Calamity has had many iterations, and this isn’t a bad thing. 1.4.5 has publicly been in development for nearly 4 years. I think if calamity made the update from 1.4.4 to 1.4.5 a “reteir and rebalance” update to make things align more with vanilla, using what already exists, it would be nice.

[blazing field]

Though the ML weapons in this scenario would then hopefully be good to help you out fighting the new enemies and evil ghouls to get good enough gear to actually face off against the bosses

Kinda like stuff like the night's edge or WoF weapons in the pre hm -> hm transition

[coarse cape]

when will 1.4.5 be added to calamity

?

[blazing field]

Tmod needs to port

It's not a calamity thing

[coarse cape]

oh

[fast vessel]

I sure hope there is. Current post-ML is basically “kill the scorn eaters, kill nuggets (no upgrades BTW), kill providence.” Nuggets don’t even feel like an actual boss since they give basically no actual rewards besides the summon to fight providence. You can do dragon folly, but dragon folly’s drops are pretty underwhelming and don’t help too much with providence.

[blazing field]

Yeah post ml has no content b esides Kill Boss

it'll be addressed hopefully soon

[dry whale]

post moonlord evil biome content....

hopefully...

[blazing field]

i'd personally wager adding content to post ml is one the things the mod most desperately needs after brainstorm is out of the way tbh

[fast vessel]

Ima be honest, I do like “just boss”, but I wish there was something to do besides 15-20 minutes crating new gear.

[blazing field]

Mod advertises itself as a content mod, not everyone likes boss rushing, the fact that there's like

[late trellis]

The Terrific Area - 1.4.5

[blazing field]

5 new enemies in post ml is kind of Terrible and devs are well aware of that, i do hope it gets high priority when it comes to things they gotta change

[fast vessel]

I do like boss rushing, but getting gear is also fun, and when getting the gear is spending 20 minutes at magic storage, it isn’t fun.

[blazing field]

Because it's one o f those things that really Feels unfinished, despite the mod obviously being so

And it's been like this for like

years

Imo it's one of the t hings that most desperately need to be addressed in the mod atm

specially since alot of other major ⚠️ spots are already being fixed like uh

[fast vessel]

Have they considered moving the post ML evil biome retier up in priority because it improves that section of the mod?

[blazing field]

5000 morbillion shitass vanilla changes that actively de-incentivize you to engage with the game and Evil Horrible Difficulty Hell

[blazing field]

I'm not sure what the devs priority are atm

I imagine it's probably a point of discussion indev

Specially cuz i figure with brainstorm out of the window theyre probably taking alotta time to reorganize things after The Horrors

But i do generally agree tbh i think that evil2 could be one of the higher priority boss reworks just bcuz itd entail evil biome content

a nice little evil biome update would be cool

and definitely not as big as whatever the hell sso was cooking

[fast vessel]

By “The Horrors” is that other stuff besides Fabsol? I know one of the devs (I forget who) said they felt the mod was kind of direction atm.

[dry whale]

scope creep sticker

[frail owl]

mrrp

[blazing field]

I am by no means fully reliable in this topic as i'm not a dev so take it with a grain of salt but as far as my understanding goes
Fabsol, as you know, but also the fact that after Fabsol left the team was left in the same utter mess of a state it's been for years and then devs hadn't yet really taken the time to reorganize things and reapproach the dev structure now that evil man is gone. Brainstorm's release seems to be exactly a way for devs to rid themselves of the 2+ y ears of Sunken Sea Overhaul Giant Evil Scope burden so they can take a break, step back and reapproach their plans, the dev team and how its structured, organization, etc

[still bluff]

What would the EoW rework update be called

[blazing field]

So basically it was fabsol and like the fabsol equivalent of a radioactive fallout 😭

[cunning sequoia]

wormlamity

[fast vessel]

The bane of every devs existence. “Just one more feature bro, trust, it will be perfect this time”. looks over at the pile of 700 incomplete, buggy, unusable features.

[still bluff]

No this is about right actually

[frail owl]

where's tofu?

[blazing field]

eepy

if i had to guess

[dry whale]

Terraria "worlds and worms" update

[blazing field]

always bet on tofu being asleep

[lyric trellis]

We need to incinerate the Sunken Sea again

[blazing field]

he has a dedicated voice channel in roydev that only has 1 member slot

we move him there everytime he falls asleep in a vc

[dry whale]

incinerates you instead

[dry whale]

this is peak actually

[fast vessel]

Not saying Fabsol was good, but from what I heard he was mostly uninvolved in the dev process (not necessarily uninvolved, I mean didn’t do much at this point) and would occasionally give feedback and boss stuff, occasionally giving fitness advice or something.

[cunning sequoia]

he completely locked people out of working on bosses

[dry whale]

irrc he basically gatekeeped boss reworks

[modern grove]

The concept of falling asleep in a VC is baffling to me

[cunning sequoia]

also yknow, being barely involved meant he wasnt a good leader

[cunning sequoia]

gay baby jail

[blazing field]

He was uninvolved in the sense he didn't really actually

1. Either act as a proper leadership figure and thus the dev team was a unorganized mess that lacked direction or quality control
2. Didn't contribute meaningfully to the project

What he did do though was actively shut down any ideas he didn't like and restrict access for anyone else to work on bosses, aswell as not looking for team input when it came to adding things, and simply adding whatever he felt like with 0 discussion or conesnsus

[dry whale]

if it was for fabsol DoG would've stayed this way forever

[blazing field]

For reference, every difficulty above Death was his, and only his choice

he was the one who added them and he did not take input from other devs, aswell as being the solo tester for said difficulties

Old Duke was added after other devs explicitly agreed "Yeah guys no more bosses we have too many" and he didn't take no for an answer

And that's not taking into account how god awful he was for the mod's pr

[dry whale]

the evil 22

[cunning sequoia]

[fast vessel]

In all fairness, I think current dog is overhated. If Fabsol’s boss design was as bad as people say it is, then the mod wouldn’t be as popular as it is and would be known for having boss issues (e.g. the Fargo’s boss circle attack shenanigans).

[grave wasp]

am i lucky

[modern grove]

No

[cunning sequoia]

well the dev team completely disagrees with you there lol

[grave wasp]

there was 2 heart crystals next to each other under it and 1 like a bit away

[grave wasp]

why tho

[blazing field]

Fabsol's boss design isn't what made the mod popular i'll be honest

[cunning sequoia]

back in the day the bosses were fine cause mod standards were much lower

[dry whale]

DoG is actually overglazed

[blazing field]

Ad Allibi or whatever but in fact i see several people complaining about some of the bosses in this server 😭

[cunning sequoia]

and with the excellent soundtrack people made them out to be much better than they actually are

[blazing field]

Overglazed? Everyone i ever see fight him hates that guy

[fast vessel]

But this mod is designed as a boss rush in a way, and bosses being a selling point means they need to at least be a little good.

[blazing field]

I almost never see anyone have nice things to say about tis fight

[cunning sequoia]

in this server yeah

[orchid finch]

the reason why everyone loved DoG is his edginess and how he looks

[cunning sequoia]

theres some vehement defenders of current DoG on red nation for instance

[dry whale]

I see people overglazing it

[fast vessel]

Yeah, he has aura.

[cunning sequoia]

theres people who say he's the best boss in the mod somehow

[real crown]

fargo's boss design issues are a thing?
I thought that was just me

[cobalt wharf]

i do think current dog is overhated but for completely different and incomprehensible reasons than everybody else

[dry whale]

negative aura maybe

[pseudo valley]

The true Dark Souls experience

[blazing field]

I also think this is partially because of what i like to call the Calamity Stockholm Syndrome

Calamity is THE most popular mod in terraria

to the point alot of people play it as their first mod and don't even ever try other mods

So their experience with it ends up being biased, and while yes, i will not deny

[cobalt wharf]

is rhis a joke, calamity bosses are notorious for the gameplay loop being running away or circling

[blazing field]

Some bosses in the mods are fun

[cobalt wharf]

like that’s what everybody always says

[blazing field]

Not all of em, but some are

[cunning sequoia]

im surprised i didnt actually start with cal

[blazing field]

The problem is that fun =/ good

[fast vessel]

I think the circle attacks are repetitive. Basically every boss past a certain has a ring you can’t leave and spins in a circle with a ML laser or projectile spam. I think it’s boring.

[cunning sequoia]

rest in peace polarities

[blazing field]

And alot of players don't really realize that

because calamity is the only example they actually have

When you have a sample size of One, of course that One will be the best thing youve seen

Like ok take for example Aquatic Scourge

[cobalt wharf]

you made the second part up

[blazing field]

i actually like that fight

i think its fun

I don't think it's the great though

[cobalt wharf]

only two bosses have this attack

[real crown]

I hate this trope so much
I played calamity's dlc for FS and it sucked
each boss got this stupid mechanic
I dropped trying to beat even SCal because it was this hard and repetitve
but I never figured I was not the only one who hated this pattern

[fast vessel]

I don’t play a lot of other mods honestly because the calamity QoL is so good. I think if calamity separated their QoL into a separate mod it’d be awesome. Things like base run speed, base dash, and base mining speed.

[cobalt wharf]

scal is unchanged in dlc aside from health stats.

[dry whale]

Scal is not affected by eternity tho..

[real crown]

scal has her own built-in arena and buffs and I just got tired

[dry whale]

infact, none of the cal bosses past clone aside from exos and OD are changed

[fast vessel]

Unless there’s been a major rework of every boss, most post ML bosses do this, and even a lot of HM bosses do this too. Twins and destroyer being good examples.

[blazing field]

For one despite being the "aquatic" scourge there's not really much Aquatic about it in its fight
It's also incredibly simple and not really in a particularly interesting way, and it has piss poor attack variety while also having a lack of interesting visuals or behaviors

With that said

Yeah i think weaving between the gas clouds is fun

thats why i like the fight

I think weaving between em while having to run away from AS is a fun little loop

Dosen't necessarily mean the fight is good because

Yeah it's kinda Lacking in alot of aspects

It could be much better

[real crown]

they all got stat buffs

[blazing field]

And for one it could actually make sense

[dry whale]

do they really matter if you're overpowered?

[blazing field]

Because it's kinda fucked up that most of the time i end up fighting the Aquatic Scourge 50% in space

very. aquatic

[dry whale]

space is a sea actually

[cunning sequoia]

i find it funny how infernum AS takes that to the extreme

[dry whale]

the sea of

uh

sea of nothing

[modern grove]

Firmament Tide reference

[blazing field]

Aquatic Scourge would be a totally acceptable fight like a few years ago but it's kinda Ough nowadays

atleast it's fun though

more than i can say for alot of cal bosses

[cobalt wharf]

the stat buffs are specifically only to offset the strength from stronger gear
the ideal is for them to be similar strength to normal cal

[real crown]

yes they do because I wasn't
even though I had a lot more grinding

[fast vessel]

That’s base calamity, although I agree that boss limits are dumb. If you can’t make a good fight without adding boss limits, it’s not a good fight, especially considering base vanilla design. I think providence is fine because her “arena” size is so large it doesn’t matter too much, and she will follow you if you try to run away anyway.

[dry whale]

I keep making accidental references to various things

idk how

[blazing field]

Crabulon is one of the worst offenders of Cal's boss quality

Expert mode crabullon

oh the horror

i wish i still had that video

[real crown]

really?

[cunning sequoia]

crabulon if he didnt have good music

[modern grove]

Normal mode crabulon

He can barely walk

[blazing field]

do you have the video throudon its so funny

[modern grove]

No unfortunately

[cunning sequoia]

byeah crabulon is probably the biggest offender of "the music is good so the boss is good"

[blazing field]

tragic ...

[modern grove]

@dense sundial do you have it

[blazing field]

i think theres worse bosses like signus

but crabulon is up there

[cunning sequoia]

yeah but the only thing people talk about with crab is his theme

[blazing field]

he's mourning wood 1:1 but with vanilla mushroom projectiles from the uhh spore bulb enemy pasted ontop

couldnt even be bothered giving it custom projectiles

[cunning sequoia]

but then also say that he's a good boss so???

[fast vessel]

I mean, yeah, but it has cool music and it a crab, so it makes up for it.

[blazing field]

right after garbos message too

thats awesome

[cunning sequoia]

[modern grove]

Would I be crucified if I say I like fables crab themes more than infestation.....

[cunning sequoia]

i havent actually heard it

[blazing field]

I've listened to it its pretty good

[grave rock]

i completely disagree lol

[fast vessel]

All calamity music is pretty good. Well, I don’t like some of it, but if I say the songs I don’t like someone will jump down my throat about it.

[blazing field]

Nothing wrong with that, taste in music is subjective

I personally like infestation more cuz of personal attachment and also because i love how over the top funky it is like its a song that really isnt taking itself seriously and just trying to be groovy and i think thats badass

[grave rock]

i think in like 70% of cases ive found bosses that limit your space to be some of the most compelling

[blazing field]

But fables crab theme is still really good

theyre going for something different, their songs fit terraria's own soundtrack much better for one

[real crown]

how so?
boss limits that are just slapped on top of the already good boss are not a good thing

[modern grove]

Cheese how do you feel about the fact that calamity player would only encounter 3 songs with lyrics, yharon, scal and torch god

[grave rock]

esp bc they dont run into the issue of ugghhhh we gotta design this around player mobility

[blazing field]

i really like their desert scourge theme

[late trellis]

Sounds like jts on the shrooms

[fast vessel]

I think the newer music not by DM Dokuro doesn’t have as much character distinguishing each song from each other. All the boss rush themes honestly sound the same to me whenever a new one gets posted.

[blazing field]

does the new torch god theme have lyrics 🥹

[grave wasp]

should i really switch to expert?

[modern grove]

An alt theme

It's very silly

[blazing field]

insane...

[modern grove]

It's also very funny

[blazing field]

is it on yt yet

[real crown]

yes

[modern grove]

It's a lot funnier than 293839393o boulder jokes

[cunning sequoia]

i'd give them another listen because trial of the insane sounds completely different from the other themes

[grave rock]

i want to give a massive shoutout to viscount

[cunning sequoia]

but also they're meant to sound at least a bit similar, they're all themes for the boss rush

[dry whale]

I don't mind boss arena restrictions

I already don't move much at all

[blazing field]

trial of the insane is one of my favorite songs in the cal soundtrack its so good

[modern grove]

https://youtu.be/LJWa-R0NQ4Y?si=n3fJZCJiShfZ1JrN

[grave rock]

i just dont like lategame player mobility

without some kind of

limiting

factor

you know?

[blazing field]

dude why does the torch god alt theme go hard what the hell

[dry whale]

this statement is true

[fast vessel]

Me when I’m a lazy game designer and add mechanics but don’t want to deal with the player being able to use them.

[grave rock]

i dont think its laziness lol

[blazing field]

Dude holy shit this is peak

[cunning sequoia]

i gotta go play more terraria i wanna hear the new themes

[dry whale]

wait what the actual fuck

[cunning sequoia]

i loved the teased eow theme which is why i made a corruption world for 1.4.5 lmao

[dry whale]

why does torch god out of all bosses get such a good theme

[blazing field]

btw immediately wanted to say this song's lyrics supports torch god carbon monoxide induced drug fever trip theory

[blazing field]

trhanks for listening

[grave rock]

im just doin' drunk world

[cunning sequoia]

what do you mean by lyrics

[fast vessel]

It is laziness. If you add a mechanic but need to specifically disable it to make a boss a good design, it’s not a good design. Everything should feel incorporated. It’s why I think bereft vassal not letting you build is bad design too.

[cunning sequoia]

WHY ARE THERE LYRICS

[blazing field]

IT HAS LYRICS

TORCH GOD GETS A LIKE HEAVY METAL SONG WITH LYRICS

[cunning sequoia]

WHAT DO YOU MEAAAAAN

[blazing field]

ITS SO PEAK DUDE

[cunning sequoia]

ok bye chat i need to hear this

[dry whale]

I'm hearing

[lean relic]

No need to now

[dry whale]

every fire based boss should get lyrics

we got torch god, yharon and Scal

[blazing field]

"i am the torch god!" - torch god

[dry whale]

WoF lyrics incoming

[grave rock]

calclone...

[cunning sequoia]

ok provi would go insanely hard with lyrics

[blazing field]

https://tenor.com/view/reze-chainsaw-man-reze-reze-absolute-cinema-gif-18344595820862549592

[dry whale]

"my name is the fucking mimic" vibes

[amber egret]

ive been made aware of a very cool thing relogic did with Chippy

[blazing field]

(incredibly loud death metal screaming)

"KILLLLLL EVERYONEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

That's the entire song

it just repeats that

[dry whale]

oh I didn't know azazel was writing provi lyrics

[modern grove]

You won't hear alt theme in the fight tho

I'm pretty sure you can only hear it by throwing torch god music box in shimmer

Same with queen bee

[blazing field]

queen bee alt theme shoulda been the buck bumble theme

[cunning sequoia]

true!

[modern grove]

But if I'm not mistaken alt theme is just his normal theme but with lyrics

So either way the torch gods game is serious lmao

[blazing field]

carbon monoxide got hands

apparently they rewrote the torch god bestiary too

i should read that

[modern grove]

Torch god is funny I like him a lot more than boulder obsession

[orchid finch]

bro what the hell

[blazing field]

i like the spider boulders because they mean i can actually get wall creeper walls in hardmode without 100 years of waiting for them to spawn

thank you red i can now add the wall creeper banner to my ever growing journey mode duplication inventory

and also to my banner hall

uhhh the other ones r lame

well ok the boulder furniture is actually kind of cool because despite it being a shitpost i actually really like some of the lightsources

bc theyre like

cracked geodes with the inside showing

and thats pretty

[orchid finch]

we literally finally got a stone furniture set

all because of the boulders

[modern grove]

Yharim when torch god doesn't favor him (suddenly those lava burns start to hurt once more)

[blazing field]

I've been keeping the princess in the underworld because i havent actually built a house for her and i feel bad so i'm gonna do that now

😭 😭

[modern grove]

Also eow theme is so peak it's probably in my top 3 favorite terraria themes

[amber egret]

can someone go ||shimmer the zenith rq|| i dont have a vanilla world not character thats far enough in

[orchid finch]

urgh fine

yup

||it's just Zenith with only Copper Shortsword shooting out||

True Copper Shortsword

[lapis oak]

Why || censored ||

[grave rock]

anyone knows how to get the mushroom boi?

[orchid finch]

because spoilers???

[orchid finch]

craftable

post-Evil

[lapis oak]

Ok??

[orchid finch]

needs 500 glowing mushrooms

I am not kidding

[lapis oak]

You are in the spoiler talk

[grave rock]

aahhh, requires scales/tissue? or smth? why post evil

[orchid finch]

what if someone doesn't want spoilers?

[orchid finch]

yeah, tissues or scales

[grave rock]

ahh ok

[lapis oak]

Then they don't go here

[grave rock]

yall idont get why ppl like abigail

shes so slowwwwww

i need a flinx fr

[lapis oak]

It's redundant to censore this place is already full of spoiilers stuff hours ago because u know

[amber egret]

thats a lot funnier than what i expected

[lapis oak]

The update talk channel

[grave rock]

they made flinx staff more expensive to craft btw 😮‍💨

[amber egret]

do you know where i can get a ||moon lord chestplate||

[orchid finch]

what did you expect, that modded True Copper Shortsword that shoots a bunch of rays?

[amber egret]

i need one for my Impersonation

[lapis oak]

|| beating you up ||

[amber egret]

no i expected kinda elemental shiv

[amber egret]

i Am serious

i cannot be bothered to go secret seeding

[lapis oak]

|| u mama ||

[orchid finch]

Kiri

[amber egret]

the fuck man thats So unsigma

[orchid finch]

this is not funny

you are not Cool Dude

[grave rock]

10 fur things now

[amber egret]

no its kinda funny

[amber egret]

Banished, actually …

[lapis oak]

I might be the

The

[amber egret]

Starwalker

[lapis oak]

The horror 😨

[orchid finch]

I'm gonna

[grave rock]

theres a [[benis i mean flinx fur furniture set now right]]

i forgot how to spoiler

ok

thaanks cal

[orchid finch]

||

[grave rock]

wiki bot

[lapis oak]

Awesome wiki bot

[orchid finch]

let me just

[grave rock]

bullshit

devs pls add

[orchid finch]

nah

[amber egret]

once the new update drops for 1.4.5 i am making a character, cheating in all the new items, and getting my Achievements :)

[orchid finch]

so zased...

[amber egret]

(God strike me Dead i cannot play Vanilla; too slow)

[grave rock]

cant wait for yet another summoner playthrough with no blood moons ❤️

everytime i play vanilla summoner

i get cursed with no blood moonss

[amber egret]

FIFTEEN RAINS

[pale silo]

Just use the secret seed to force one at the start :3

[grave rock]

i want my frog!!!! i want my bats!!!!

yess ik u can technically

farm for bloody tears in a graveyard

[lapis oak]

Is the frog that good

[pale silo]

It's alright tbh

[grave rock]

frog is p good

[pale silo]

For pre boss

[amber egret]

frog is like B tier imo

[pale silo]

B tier is very usable

[grave rock]

i use it on wall

[amber egret]

its not Insane but it is Good against KS and EoC

[lapis oak]

I used Fisch up until I have the new Summon weapon post Evils

Whips truly carried

[grave rock]

its like the cal skeletons summon but

weaker

IMO

[amber egret]

the removal of whipstacking i think is

good

[grave rock]

Rip bozo

[amber egret]

but the addition of so many new whips means im Scared

what do i even Use

[lapis oak]

Definitely less of a headache

[grave rock]

at least designing whips for cal will prolly not be such a nightmare right?

[wind creek]

is this part of the vanilla update or just my world gen being very epic?

this rail way is TOO long.

[grave rock]

i imagine there were the horrors of "oh god what happens when u stack it"

[grave rock]

sometimes tracks do that

[amber egret]

whats the name of that one whip

[wind creek]

ive never had a rail track that goes from spawn to tundra

[amber egret]

the ml one

[wind creek]

like ever.

[wind creek]

possession

[amber egret]

prudence? potence

yes possession

[plush carbon]

I think cal devs are gonna be more worried about the new mounts than the whips tbh

[wind creek]

why

[grave rock]

ive heard abt the skates what do they do

[orchid finch]

speed

[plush carbon]

They give insane mobility and are available preboss

[amber egret]

What Do They Do Specifically

[plush carbon]

There's no way cal doesn't fucking gut them

[wind creek]

i see

[lapis oak]

Something like ram dash pre boss

[wind creek]

i dont have them yet cuz i just started vanilla

from 0

[lapis oak]

Idk

[plush carbon]

That's the Dragon Pal

[grave rock]

theyre a skeleton merch sell right

[amber egret]

i damn you to Vagueposter tier

[wind creek]

is there a good summoner weapon pre-boss in the new update?

[grave rock]

flinx

[wind creek]

cobweb whip kinda sucked

[wind creek]

guess its the same stuff

[grave rock]

u can still do snapthorn

[civic frost]

yeah its called snapthorn

[wind creek]

yea

[idle spindle]

Abigail flower is so nice

[wind creek]

i hate how my world gen spawns crimson on both sides

[idle spindle]

abigail flower + cobwhip is pretty good

[lapis oak]

Right, Pals aren't mounts

[wind creek]

had so much trouble getting through it

[plush carbon]

The Dragon Pal is literally a mount

[lapis oak]

Idk haven't seen any mounts yet

[grave rock]

lowkey, summoner early feels the same

as before

[civic frost]

they absolutely are

[idle spindle]

Of course there's always the option for snapthorn

[lapis oak]

Oh?

[wind creek]

how good is the crimson whip compared to snapthorn

is snapthorn still better

[grave rock]

idk

i havent used it

[lapis oak]

Digtoise isn't a mount so I thought others are like that too

Alright then

[grave rock]

they gave mage nothing bwaaaa

[plush carbon]

Can You Beat Terraria With Only Pals?

[orchid finch]

don't pal me bucko

[civic frost]

foxparks is the strongest pal weapon and it only lasts up till like early hm

[wind creek]

can beat with any weapon as long as you're determined enough

[grave rock]

is it a hot take to say mage needed more help than summoner

[civic frost]

but sure u probably can

[idle spindle]

yea

[plush carbon]

Mage forever damned to be Mid

[wind creek]

some dude literally beat the game with lawn mower

[idle spindle]

lol

[wind creek]

i dont see why pals which are probably way stronger couldn't

[civic frost]

this item sucks, its more of a "toy" really

oh well

i was expecting more from the pal world collab

[idle spindle]

Maybe not very early game but like as soon as you have a decent staff

[grave rock]

the world if wand of sparking was craftable

the world if gem staves didnt make me sad

[idle spindle]

Autofire made the gem staves actually usable

[grave rock]

they just

dont feel nice

[plush carbon]

Mana as a mechanic kinda just blows

[grave rock]

i usually just fish for a thunder zapper

[plush carbon]

Oops

[finite widget]

does 1.4.5 affect calamity in any way, or has calamity already updated to accomodate the 1.4.5 update

[lapis oak]

No

tMod will need to be ported first and that'll take months

[wind creek]

and a little bit more for cal update

cal devs will have a field day trying to balance these things lol

[lapis oak]

Have a field day deleting works because vanilla already got things that do the same

[pseudo vector]

calamity's 1.4.5 port won't be a thing until later this year at least

[dry whale]

1.4.5 massive code changes are an actual nuke for mods I think

[lapis oak]

Sending 5 nukes to your location

[pseudo vector]

the tmod devs will be working on getting the new update to a stable state for modders to work on

dunno how long its gonna take but its gonna be at least a few months

[dry whale]

you're a good frien

thnak u

[lapis oak]

4 nukes only just because you said that

[blazing field]

Took longer on this than i thought i would

[dry whale]

:c

still good

[dry whale]

nice hous

[lapis oak]

That platform I like that a lot

It's part of Star Furniture?

[blazing field]

the platform is of the new hallowed furniture set, though i did use some of the fallen star stuff

[lapis oak]

I see

[blazing field]

These blocks, the platforms, doors, chairs and bookshelves are hallowed

[grave rock]

feywood seems cool

[blazing field]

The table, lanterns, chandelier, bed and candle are fallen star

[blazing field]

I was thinking of upgrading my dryad's house with it since it'd help differentiate it more from the zoologist cuz they both use living wood rn

however

not now bc im tired

[lean cave]

New stuff is crazy

||The new boulders are so funny||

The friendly one goes crazy

[lapis oak]

Have u seen the rainbbow boulder

Ye that one

[lean cave]

That shit scared me so badly the first time i saw it lmao

[lapis oak]

Got its own music too it's peak

[lean cave]

Wait it does???

I just heard

[rose radish]

wow, new furniture is so nice

[pearl sentinel]

these new achievements suck

[orchid finch]

when we made adjustments to Terraria's localization, I had some hope that they would genuinely improve in quality

the update releases, what do we have?

Japanese folks shitting on the Japanese translation

[lapis oak]

Wtf happened

[orchid finch]

the shitty font with unreadable kanjis

[lapis oak]

You were in the Japanese localization department?

[orchid finch]

and overall bad quality of the translation

[orchid finch]

No, we were doing Russian

and you better not let me talk about that

[pearl sentinel]

why is there a multiplayer only achievement
why is completing the bestiary an achievement now

[orchid finch]

because that's one hell of a rabbit hole

[lapis oak]

Andy Bold?

[orchid finch]

no

andy bold does not support anything but regular latin

[lapis oak]

Ah

[orchid finch]

the other latin characters for languages like Spanish and Portuguese are taken from Comic Sans

[dusk bronze]

wait, for vanilla or calamity

[lapis oak]

Type shit achievements

[slow pendant]

Scratch that

[orchid finch]

the others get fucking Arial or Calibri or what else is the default

[orchid finch]

vanilla

[slow pendant]

switching whips also removes whip speed buffs from whips like snapthorn

[lapis oak]

That's why I can only go so far with those tasks tbh

[slow pendant]

which means even the more niche forms of whipstacking with firecracker are 100% dead

[lapis oak]

Because I can't be bothered to complete all of those tedious tasks

[slow pendant]

At this point they should just make the whips that increase whip speed faster by nature, there's no point for the buff to exist if you can't do anything with it other than keep using the same weapon

[split ginkgo]

if I mentioned this before

[orchid finch]

this was indeed brought up here

[mellow dune]

my skyblock shimmer island crashes me when I go near it bruh
3-4 hours in the world

[pseudo vector]

there's a definite difference between the new tracks and the old ones

but i think the new tracks are fine

i enjoy the new mech boss themes a lot

[slow pendant]

The wording of this feels quite imflamatory

[split ginkgo]

Hey look, the fishing achievement finally has a new challenger

and yeah

New tracks are fine

[slow pendant]

Isn't the grave killing achievement also obtainable by killing an NPC with it

[blazing totem]

yes it is

[mellow dune]

I found that out by accident :)

[pearl sentinel]

still sounds like a total pain

i dont like any of these achievements

[pseudo vector]

i was getting vanilla achievements for the first time in 4 years last night

[slow pendant]

terraria players throw a sigh of relief knowing they won't have to make friends in order to get the achievement

[lapis oak]

I got blown up by Dead Man's Chest and got the achievement today

[pseudo vector]

like i shit you not the last vanilla achievement i got before yesterday was back in 2022

[pearl sentinel]

me wondering what the last 0.1% of the bestiary is only to realize i foolishly forgot about the gold pond skater

[lapis oak]

Haven't played vanilla in ages

[blazing totem]

i mean, relogic has a philosophy to not lock achievements behind mp

[dusk bronze]

i'm a terrorist now (killed travelling merchant using flymeal)

[split ginkgo]

Having to complain about "Scott is lazy hurr durr pizza tower music too many instrument" is straight up childrens talk, lmao

anyways

[mellow dune]

I think finding any golden critter unlocks all of them in bestiary

[pseudo vector]

yeah idk what that guy is smoking ngl

[slow pendant]

I didn't play vanilla 1.4.4 so when i reloaded an older world i got a lot of the "get X item" achievements for free lol

[pseudo vector]

bro needs some joy in his heart

[lapis oak]

Omg yes why does Flymeal needs honey again

[dusk bronze]

ikr 😭

[lapis oak]

Actual criminal recipe station

[blazing totem]

you could say it's a fly's meal

this joke sucks

[lapis oak]

Hives are actually so rare when you need them like holy shit

[pseudo vector]

chat do you guys think skeletron prime's theme is fire or fire

cuz its fire

[blazing totem]

idk i haven't listened to it

[pearl sentinel]

havent heard

[blazing totem]

still pre-boss 🥹🧷

[dusk bronze]

i was lucky enough to have a random pool of honey on the way to the underground jungle

[lapis oak]

Haven't heard that one I've only reached Deerclops

[dusk bronze]

but still

[pseudo vector]

i'm not particularly bothered by spoilers so i went and listened to them

they're really good but i imagine they're better in context

[lapis oak]

I want to experience them ingame lol

[twin juniper]

can’t wait to fight the twin ong

[lapis oak]

And ngl I thought King Slime's was gonna be much funkier idk why

[pseudo vector]

its silly

[lapis oak]

Like expecting half of Infestation level

[pseudo vector]

its a fun track but it feels like its meant to be more innocent and jovial

[lapis oak]

Ye

[hoary edge]

yea king slime theme is silly

[dusk bronze]

gonna be honest i hate all the vanilla slime related themes
they just make my ears mad

[pseudo vector]

like the contrast between king slime's theme and eoc's is definitely felt more now

[dusk bronze]

all the other bosses are peam though

[pseudo vector]

boss 1 feels like a good "first serious boss" song

which it seems to be the case for in regards to the way its used now

[dusk bronze]

thunderstorm theme has 50x more aura now

[pseudo vector]

oh yeah holy shit

the new thunderstorm changes are so fucking good

i'm sure the clip has been sent a few times already

[dusk bronze]

zeus got the final blow in my eoc fight

was very funny

[blazing field]

I like alot of the new boss themes

[lapis oak]

Quadrakill

[blazing field]

Specially the torch god theme that shits the best song ever

torch god sweep

[pseudo vector]

the quadra kill clip was so fucking funny

[blazing field]

I'M THE TORCH GOD! said the torch god. and the crowd cheered

[dusk bronze]

true!

[split ginkgo]

Skyblock is skyblock

Yeah

[blazing totem]

john torch jod

[modern grove]

Honestly thinking of it I quite like that LC theme is not very intense but rather is pretty serious and focused

I like those chants at the background

[pseudo vector]

the chants are perfect for cultist

works well for the vibes

[modern grove]

It feels like an introduction to the ending of your game

Cultist is like, the beginning of the end

He introduces you to the pillars and moon lord, is pretty easy boss himself and so his theme reflects that

Having intense battle music would be weird imo, because he's not the start of the show

Star not start goddamit I hate my phone

[amber egret]

i mean Start also works

Technically .

the Start of the show is the Cultists

not the Lunatic Himself

[blazing field]

yeah cultist theme is good and fitting imo

specially cuz he dies pretty quick itd be a waste to have such a intense theme ona boss thats kind of jsut a glorified miniboss/stepping stone

[lean relic]

I love it

[blazing field]

this sucks

the boulder blocks are so ugly too 😭

ill give credit where is due though

the light items with the amethyst geodes re actually pretty

i'd use those in builds

[mellow dune]

honestly there's like a 60% chance that's intentional

[blazing field]

like theyre items that actually work outside of the haha guys look boulder shitpost look boulder context

[mellow dune]

meant to reply to this one

[blazing field]

y eah its definitely intentional

like dude genuinely i think even poop blocks look better

these blocks r so ugly dawg

theyre like evil stone thats worse din every way

some of the furniture is cool though

again the amethyst lights r rly cool

ill also say, the door is neat

having a crude stone door like that could be cool for some builds

maybe u wanna make grug caveman cave

[amber egret]

i would be a Big Fan of Boulder Stuff it fell when Activated by Wire

then Solidified when it hit the Ground

[cunning sequoia]

red lives off of boulder hate so he makes everything boulder related as bad as possible

[amber egret]

the Star Boulder is pretty Awesome

[cunning sequoia]

this is not true btw i havent seen any of the new boulders

[amber egret]

i Think i saw a lava boulder

but i mighta literally hallucinated it

[cunning sequoia]

anyway i predicted the name of a painting therefore im awesome and this update is awesome

[amber egret]

(I'm not joking.)

[crisp python]

Does calamity work with 1.4.5?

[amber egret]

No

Wait a few months

[crisp python]

devastating

[split ginkgo]

check pins

[blazing field]

tmod hasn't even updated yet

[orchid finch]

tmod will never update

trust me

it's dead

[amber egret]

No actually TModLoader updated like Five Days Later

[orchid finch]

telling lies?

[modern grove]

Yeaghh it looks very weird

It's like, very lumpy and almost slimy idk

Not very pleasant

Furniture is fine tho

[amber egret]

Slimy?????????

as in Goopy???????????????????

[orchid finch]

world of goo

[modern grove]

It looks wet

[amber egret]

This?

This Block

(sorry for ping)

[modern grove]

Yes, this block

[amber egret]

This is like. the Fundamental Anti-Concept to Wet

[modern grove]

Boulder blocks

[amber egret]

it is Stone

it looks like Tuff from Minecraft

[modern grove]

I'm not talking about what it is I'm talking about how it's executed and how it looks

[woeful yarrow]

Help

[amber egret]

whats up Rawad55

[woeful yarrow]

If someone have a guide to Skyblock seed

Please send

I'm suffering

I already reached cavern layer And build a place to enemy spawn

What should i do next

[honest vine]

what the fuck is a huge dragon egg

showed up on my metal detector

oh

golf cart 2

WITH A DASH?

@redigit fix your game

[amber furnace]

no this is actually good looking

[rough inlet]

I'm sorry if this had been asked before but i have a question
I know calamity won't be on 1.4.5 till tmod updates to 1.4.5 but will there be any content updates of calamity coming to the 1.4.4 tmod loader?

[modern grove]

Yeah

[azure oak]

brainstorm

[modern grove]

Somewhere soon

[rough inlet]

thank you

[azure oak]

massive pile of weapon & accessory reworks, and 2 boss reworks

[serene parrot]

does calamity have any items that originated from dead cells? im too lazy to look through all of them

[honest vine]

oh what

i thought brainstorm would come for 1.4.5

like

i thought we would have to wait for tmod to port to 1.4.5

[fierce nebula]

❌

[stiff light]

green needle tomorrow

[fierce nebula]

Tmod 1.4.5 will most likely come after bs releases

Probably

Maybe

Possibly

[stone fiber]

Which one?

cirrus

[honest vine]

why is the chillet mount

so fucking broken

helped me kill deerclops post evil

[stone fiber]

Which one?

[stone fiber]

True
(Also, who made your icon? )

[tribal isle]

playing 1.4.5 makes me realize how useful recipe browser is

[versed heart]

I'm kinda glad I'm not immediately spoiling myself about most stuff, at least

[amber furnace]

I honestly think that the new moonlord whip is op
but I guess its endgame so it doesn't matter

Also the stardust pillar has 3 weapons but everything else has 2, thats a bummer

[stark quail]

ngl

im gonna go back on my old classic world and easy 100% beastiary

im happy i did that like 2 years ago LOL

hopefully won't take long to finish it again

idk every new mob tho

[versed heart]

Idk if the secret boss thing counts in the bestiary

[stark quail]

i doubt it

theres uhhh

moss zombie
water bolt mimic
librarian skeleton

oh yeah ahd the pufferfish and orca

and apparently a statue mimic too

yeah that wont be that bad but idk how to get negative luck lol

[versed heart]

Uuuh kill npcs or ladybugs (other than guide)
2 new items which reduce luck by 0.1 each (dunno how to get them)
Otherwise I don't remember

[stark quail]

ye seems like ladybugs will do the trick

remind me, do battle potions and water candles stack

[stray hull]

dirt who?

[frail tapir]

[tribal isle]

something finally dethroned kaleidoscope?

[uncut gazelle]

Constellation and Possession

They're pretty much the better version of it

[uncut gazelle]

And maybe Electric Eel, although not sure, since I still don't know its stats

[tribal isle]

is the wiki updated

[uncut gazelle]

Partially

[uncut gazelle]

Electric Eel has slightly worse tag damage and crit chance, but is much better at crowd control, as far as I can say

[hoary edge]

oh I can't wait to have the funni electric eel on my hand

(my current vanilla run)
now I either wait for blood moon for vampire frog or get the new mushroom boi

[uncut gazelle]

Frogs seem to be the better option, but why not get both?

[hoary edge]

oh sure

[stark quail]

dude what on earth are the water bolt mimic spawn conditions

how have i not seen a single on eyet

one yet

ok.

apparently i killed one.

i didnt even see it lol

[versed heart]

Mushroom Boi is ||post Evil boss|| btw
It seems ||weak compared to Imp Staff||

[untold raptor]

Hey, does anyone know — the Calamity website says the Brainstorm update will change structures.
Will worlds created before the Brainstorm update still be playable on the new version?

[stark quail]

ok

literally onl need a moss zombie now

[stark quail]

they'll be playable but i doubt the structures will beupdated

[vivid hemlock]

yes but you will miss out on some structures that will be added

[misty wren]

playable yes but youll be missing out

[fallow narwhal]

wait this is hype can someone send a link to the update page thing

are there gonna be any new resprites?

[vivid hemlock]

yes

[fallow narwhal]

oh this is goated

[stark quail]

a lot

[fallow narwhal]

OH THIS IS GOATED

can you guys give me a run down?/

[stark quail]

id just browse #changelogs

[fallow narwhal]

yeah good idea thanks

[vivid hemlock]

#calamity-update-talk message read my document

[fallow narwhal]

alr bet

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/he-is-speaking-guy-explaining-with-a-whiteboard-some-guy-explaining-gif-19593300

[vivid hemlock]

true

[fallow narwhal]

so im assuming theres alot haha

[polar tide]

brainstorm is the largest update in calamity's entire history the changelog text file is 587k characters long

[fallow narwhal]

bro i started playing calamity at the perfect time

again

[short magnet]

do u guys know when it upadtes to the new version and like when tmodloader updates?

[stark quail]

i forgot abt that LOL

idk when ill do another calamity run tho

but is it true that like with 2.1 the experience is kinda A Lot Different

[fallow narwhal]

wait wait so vanillin the document here says unofficial

what do i trust...

[vivid hemlock]

its unofficial because devs didnt make it

[polar tide]

yes

[stark quail]

👀

ok MAYBE

ill do another run

i just dont want it to take 2.5 years like my last one did

[fallow narwhal]

ahh i see

[polar tide]

it isnt like "omg this is a completely new mod" but it is ABSOLUTELY worth doing a new run on brainstorm if you havent played cal in a while

[short magnet]

do u guys know when it upadtes to the new version and like when tmodloader updates?

[vivid hemlock]

many months

[fallow narwhal]

id say just use mutant mod to speed things up then

[vivid hemlock]

dont expect 1.4.5 support until later this year

[short magnet]

bro whyy i need that 2 week phase rn

[stark quail]

i quit playing like twice in the middle of it

and also tried to make it longe rbecause i felt guilty for some reason (?)

playthrough was like 120 hrs in total lmfao

[fallow narwhal]

idgaf about 1.4.5 support honestly i just want my resprites🥹

[stark quail]

THANK YOU im tired of ppl complaining abt that

[fallow narwhal]

fr i honestly dont even get the hype around the new update

im sure we can survive without it for a few months

and in the meantime we getting brand new cal update

so

[stark quail]

the new update is so peak