calamity-update-talk

[pale silo]

Doze probably does but it should all be on the wiki

[hollow harness]

also some changes to flinx set

[civic frost]

this endgame whip reminded me of that one Catalyst mod whip

[pale silo]

With some blanks in

[stray matrix]

oooh

[hollow harness]

you will need to grind slightly more for flinx fur

[stray matrix]

how has spears only been effected.

[hollow harness]

which is like fine its not that bad I think

[spark belfry]

Slime god whip?

Or another one

[distant raft]

unrelenting torment?

or nekhakha from souls

[civic frost]

yes the unrelenting one from polterghast

[spark belfry]

Also neat boss loot room

[civic frost]

thanks, tho im pretty sure my friend just copied the layout from a steam world, she built this

[hollow harness]

also is slime staff still a random any slime drop or has it been moved to King Slime

[tropic jolt]

the PML bosses are already cowering in fear

[spark belfry]

King slime

3% drop

[hollow harness]

🥀

[stray matrix]

pain

suffering

torment

[spark belfry]

Yeah the slime stuff really ain't it sadly

[pale silo]

It's both

[halcyon seal]

if im dragonfolly and i see this whip + lunar portal staff + a billion tpes im just ragequitting

[stray matrix]

one thousand years of darkness.

[pale silo]

Slime staff is just also from ks

For easier access then the 1/10000

(excluding mk10)

[civic frost]

real and true

[tropic jolt]

dragonfolly gets humbled by post moon lord whips, tier shifts itself out of spite

[lapis oak]

a lot of weapon reworks but damn they're

such tedious to get

[pale silo]

It is planned to go to T2 evil

And T2 evil swap with folly

Afaia

[stray matrix]

oh yeah you do just kill a gods remnents in prehardmode.

[civic frost]

though true copper shortsword demolishes every other new weapon in the update ngl

[tropic jolt]

seems like a perfect swap with aerialite

[spark belfry]

Oh my first cloud slime

[stray matrix]

the what now

[pale silo]

Btw cloud platforms best block

[spark belfry]

I did see that!

No fall damage

[civic frost]

||shimmer the zenith||

[tropic jolt]

well that would thankfully be post yharon in calamity

[spark belfry]

Though tbf, if you got a horseshoe balloon it doesn't really matter, nor if you got wings

[pale silo]

sadly balloon aint garunteed

[spark belfry]

tis true..

[pale silo]

without fishing

and wings are rare

[graceful anvil]

Guys, what is new Boss?

[modern grove]

There is none

[pale silo]

its more of a reskin

for tron

[spark belfry]

Chippygaming skeletron

[graceful anvil]

What abot Dead Cells Collba?

[halcyon seal]

is it just me or are hooks way faster in this update

[pale silo]

idk how you activate it

[torn ivy]

A boss got reskined?

[graceful anvil]

Collab*

[pale silo]

its just you

[pale silo]

more like a secret skin

[azure wren]

IS THE DUAL DUNGEONS MOBILE ONLY

[pale silo]

yeah its bugged rn

its sad

[civic frost]

do yall have any thoughts on the new summoner reforges

[spark belfry]

you need the chippy couch, the clothier voodoo doll and it needs to be night time

[pale silo]

it was the one seed i wanted to play with so bad

[modern grove]

Dead cells collab didn't add any new boss nor palworld collab

[pale silo]

assumed so

[pale silo]

theyre good

[spark belfry]

and if he stands next to you he'll transform

[halcyon seal]

its just a very obscure method of summoning skeletron with legendary ai and a reskin

[spark belfry]

It's funny

[calm ingot]

Sit in front of the clothier on chippy’s couch wearing a clothier voodoo doll at night
I think you also have to be in hardmode and it uses legendary ai regardless of world difficulty

[torn ivy]

Oh alr

[halcyon seal]

it also drops the "dev" set

[spark belfry]

Ye

[pale silo]

what happens if you do it alr on legendary?

[stray matrix]

crap i need to beat cal before the update

or else i need to restart

[calm ingot]

Skeletron comes through the screen and strangles you

[pale silo]

you have like a month for brainstorm

[pale silo]

hell yeah

would rid me of this illness

[spark belfry]

Exactly that

[stray matrix]

uh i suck at cal tho.

im stuck on skelatron.

[pale silo]

and?

master?

[spark belfry]

How long have ya been on him

[pale silo]

and reminder

you can always

skip

a boss

theres very few bosses that is unskippable

[stray matrix]

and what? do slime god?

[pale silo]

sg or wof

yeah

[stray matrix]

hes. annoyingly fast

[calm ingot]

Does anyone know how the legacy cal stuff is gonna work so infernum can still function
I don’t think you can downpatch a mod using the mod browser

[pale silo]

tron is not required till cultist, and even then cult has an alt summon

[pale silo]

theyre gonna make a mod specifically for it

[stray matrix]

although i can take out both hands.

[pale silo]

thats the easy part

what difficulty?

[graceful anvil]

I don't understand something, or why this upd so Bad 😭😭😭

[stray matrix]

expert revengance

[spark belfry]

?

[pale silo]

i cant remember rev ai tbh

[potent scroll]

??

[stray matrix]

its my first playthrough so i wentw ith whats supposed to be the "intended experience"

[tulip spire]

when do you guys think tmodloader will update to 1.4.5?

[pale silo]

what gear?

do you have bundle?

[graceful anvil]

Like QoL and few new weapons, thats all

[pale silo]

may time earliest

[civic frost]

anyone else think Constellation is kinda underpowered for an endgame whip

[halcyon seal]

are you sure

[potent scroll]

inside the tmodloader discord they said about 3-6 month

[spark belfry]

August probably

[stray matrix]

yeah i got bundle

[tulip spire]

gotcha gotcha

[graceful anvil]

I said, maybe I don't understand something

[pale silo]

if youre comparing to old keld, yes. but thats just cause old keld was absurdly op

[stray matrix]

im running summoner also. using the dank staff and the rusty becon prototype

[halcyon seal]

not every update needs to add bosses to be big

[spark belfry]

I mean they added a TON of seed combinations, new weapons, reforges, new lighting system and QoL all around the board, if you've explored stuff go do some secret seed combinations

[potent scroll]

expected 6 post moonlord boss fr

[graceful anvil]

QoL upd is good, and this upd also, bad it so small. They add something, but nothing special in game not Changed

[spark belfry]

Terraria 1.5 the BOSS expansion

[pale silo]

It's not small

[grave geyser]

hm

[potent scroll]

✨

[pale silo]

Look thru the forums post

[halcyon seal]

yeah this is a fucking gigantic update

prob the biggest since 1.4

[pale silo]

It actually has an insane amount of update

[lapis oak]

dude this update is massive

[calm ingot]

I can’t lie for 3 years of dev time it does seem like a bit of a nothing burger
Especially considering 1.1 came out within like a year of the first version

[lapis oak]

it's been stacking up changes for 3 years

[pale silo]

Content. Slop. Quality of content has been getting better then longer we go. Takes longer

Also look at the cal team rn

With what they're doing

[potent scroll]

yall so ungrateful bru

[lapis oak]

because the standard quality is now much higher than before?

[calm ingot]

There’s also like 10 times as many devs as there were then

[halcyon seal]

1.1 was also really bad compared to modern standards

[deft lily]

lame take

[lapis oak]

more devs =/= faster update

[pale silo]

More numbers doesn't counteract it

You need everyone on the same page

More Devs makes that harder to do

[potent scroll]

they said they stop updating the game yet they still dropping new updates

[deft lily]

||i dont really like some of the new themes for the bosses tbh||

[calm ingot]

Idk the update is cool and all but I can’t make myself be not disappointed

[potent scroll]

i dont heard them yet so i cant say nothing yet

[pale silo]

cough

[potent scroll]

like what was your expection?

[lapis oak]

500 new bosses

idk

[tropic jolt]

noiterraria

[azure wren]

im playing this rn 😭

[pale silo]

have funnnn

[calm ingot]

Overhauling a lot of the poopshit weapons like brainstorm is doing
They did with phasesabers and maybe paladin’s hammer and that’s all I know of

Overhauling some of the poopshit bosses also

[pale silo]

look thru the changelogs

[calm ingot]

New seeds are cool ig

[halcyon seal]

what the hell is that

[pale silo]

and theyve excluded a majority of the changelogs

[potent scroll]

maybe the next update will be about combat ,who knows :p

[pale silo]

a regular vanilla world

[halcyon seal]

well that much i know

what combination of seeds

[pale silo]

with every super secret seed applied at once

not zenith or dont dig up tho

[grave geyser]

I mean next update is going to be bugfixes with a few balance changes

more than likely

[azure wren]

imagine with zenith applied tho

[pale silo]

i do not wish that hell upon anyone

[azure wren]

some content farm's gonna do htat

[pale silo]

oh absolutely

and theyll do "some mining off camera"

[spark belfry]

When have they ever set the expectation for overhauling stuff at a scale like this Where are ya'll getting these expecations from

[pale silo]

and claim their hardcore run is fully legit too

[calm ingot]

Looking at 1.4/1.3 weapons and then looking at older weapons you can see some stuff has not aged well
Same with bosses

[deft lily]

||okay cultist theme is pretty neat ngl||

[pale silo]

look at calamity

look at any mod

look at any game

[calm ingot]

Yeah and look at what calamity is doing

[spark belfry]

Look at any game right

[split ginkgo]

IIRC brainstorm is the final update before tmod 1.4.5 right

or am i misrepresenting things

[pale silo]

yeah

likely

[spark belfry]

Most likely

[azure wren]

meet potential update

[pale silo]

unless tmod is put off for ages anyways

[halcyon seal]

what do you guys do for the start of skyblock seed

rn im just digging out my island

[pale silo]

but that likely wont happen

[buoyant pulsar]

a good point

[primal badge]

I farmed slimes to get basic resources

planted grass and trees

[pale silo]

dig out island to spawn proof, get merchant, build down to caverns to get stone from stone slimes (and cobwebs), and kill zombies for wood

cause zombies drop wood too

no acorns needed

[primal badge]

and used slime blocks for housing

[pale silo]

some slimes drop acorns too so dw

[calm ingot]

I did skyblock in 1.4.0 before shimmer and tbis seed
What does the seed add

[potent scroll]

i want to do a normal playthought first then i try skyblock

[pale silo]

set up basic farms

[pale silo]

a lot more then you think

[primal badge]

Got this so far, plus two platforms below for enemy farming

[calm ingot]

I know the seeds are like the biggest additions

[pale silo]

imagine old shimmerless sb, but in a semi intended way that isnt built to be a breeze

it still requires massive farming

with also having support for more of the game

(example, hellforges can now be gotten from hell lootboxes)

[stark quail]

i just got smited by a dart trap slime

[pale silo]

yup

[calm ingot]

I was stuck tiki armor for basically all of post plant so that’ll be nice

[halcyon seal]

im doing skyblock + notraps + drunk + ftw so i have to deal with

[pale silo]

and ofc there is zenith sb

[halcyon seal]

so many dart slimes

[pale silo]

which makes things 10x harder

and you start with less

[calm ingot]

How does that even work
Do you just get an island filled with lava and crispy honey or something

[pale silo]

still enough to build up to usual, but the start is definitely harder

island at the bottom of the world

ash and flesh blocks

(for evil spawns, for the rare food drop)

ash spawns lava slimes

which drops random blocks and shite normal slimes would drop at a higher rate

[azure wren]

you might need to do it tool assisted to do kaizo seed

[pale silo]

feels like 33% chance

instead of old 5%

(for any sb)

And ofc that's without any super secret seed

I assume there's many combos with SB that makes it absurdly hard, but actually feasable

[calm ingot]

I remember having to set my computer to Christmas so slimes would drop presents that would drop candy cane blocks do they just give you blocks now

Also the starting island looks huge

[pale silo]

You can now just set the world to it on creation for constant Christmas/Halloween

With secret seeds

[pale silo]

Huge but doesn't do much

All it does is skip the jump in a pit thousands of times for a few blocks

[calm ingot]

I don’t remember doing that

[civic frost]

god terraria discord chat is insufferable rn

[pale silo]

Low block sbbwas

[pale silo]

It's so toxic

[primal badge]

Yeah the starting island is just dirt and clouds at first but big enough for consistent spawns

[azure wren]

the first mistake is expecting a official discord/subreddit to be sufferable

[pale silo]

Especially the people who keep shouting ab whip stacking

Jesus Christ

[civic frost]

yeah whipstacking is just a subject, actually

[winter kiln]

crimson altar's been resprited

[civic frost]

doesnt help that shyguymask is being insufferable about it

[pale silo]

Oh god is he?

[civic frost]

yeah you can tell hes a prick by the way he types

[calm ingot]

You got fucking summoner reforges and 10 gorillion whips who cares that whipstscking is gone

[vestal osprey]

Oh my god theses new achievements suck

[halcyon seal]

whipstacking being gone is something im a little mixed on

[civic frost]

i dont believe there was this many people who actually liked whipstacking

[azure wren]

so shyguymask the youtuber who constantly says he has objkectively correct opinions

[obtuse hawk]

i never really gaf about whipstack

[halcyon seal]

i do appreciate summoner being a technical class, i think its good for terraria to have that

[hidden coral]

just wondering when do yall think tmod and calamity will be updated to 1.4.5?

[halcyon seal]

but also whipstacking was definitely VERY overtuned

[winter kiln]

has the demon altar also been resprited or is it unchanged?

[halcyon seal]

10 months minimum

[hollow harness]

tmod will take between 6-10

months

[pale silo]

I love how they're also wrong ab whip stacking being dead too

[azure wren]

i do think removing whipstacking was a little cringe though

[calm ingot]

Scrolling my mouse wheel while fighting a boss to double my damage, so technical

[pale silo]

Whip only runs has had near no nerf to whip stackong

[hidden coral]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[spark belfry]

oh of course not in that cestpool

[vestal osprey]

Someone pin that answer, every 10 minutes someone asks when tmod will be ported

[pale silo]

It's only sentry/summon interaction

[grim pecan]

let's not talk bad about other people or discords here please

[pale silo]

That's fair honestly

[buoyant pulsar]

how do you combine seeds

[hidden coral]

excues me i dont live in the calamity discord lmfao

[buoyant pulsar]

or like, apply them at all

the secret ones

[vestal osprey]

Thats why im asking for a pin

[civic frost]

your average terraria joe would only be mindlessly clicking, they do not care

[vestal osprey]

Alot of people probably have that question

[grim pecan]

it's already pinned

[pale silo]

You just type them in individually

[halcyon seal]

dart slimes are the actual worst

[pale silo]

And they all get applied for only that world creation

[serene parrot]

ive only found a few new items so far but theyre pretty neat

[halcyon seal]

one shots you on master mode

pain to kill with copper shortsword

[pale silo]

You can block em off easily thankfully

Also get conveyor belts asap

And use npcs to Ur advantage

[calm ingot]

Why anyone would voluntarily enable notraps is beyond me

[pale silo]

(conveyor slimes exist)

[serene parrot]

the ram rune is great for getting down hellevators quickly, i think its even faster than the slime mounts, but i havent tested that yet

[pale silo]

There's this mount from the skeleton merchant thats busted af too

Amazing Accel, faster then boots, doesn't interrupt flight time, let's you attack, and scales based on your build speed

[grave geyser]

its pretty fun

[pale silo]

And grants a light increase to jump height

[calm ingot]

I personally don’t enjoy checking beneath every block I walk on but maybe that’s just me

It was the only thing that kinda ruined gfb

[azure wren]

I GOT A HOUUUUSE

[pale silo]

Just hold a dart trap in Ur hand

[calm ingot]

Gameplay

[pale silo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[uncut gazelle]

What are they?

[pale silo]

Also it's based on world gen minigame

[halcyon seal]

one of them is +25 armor pen

[azure wren]

ngl GFB was always meant to be a joke seed

[pale silo]

More stars you bounce after traps have been placed, the more traps spawns

[azure wren]

and so was notraps

[pale silo]

Also increases treasure

And life crystals

[calm ingot]

You also get more loot so I tried to bounce as many stars as I could

[pale silo]

You bounce it only before traps

Stop after traps

[halcyon seal]

OH SHIT ZOMBIES DROP SICKLES ON SKYBLOCK

[pale silo]

Before there's 100 traps on screen at once

[calm ingot]

I got way too much loot and also traps every 10 blocks

[civic frost]

other thank dmg and knockback, they just added armor pen and tag damage mostly

[pale silo]

And wood

[calm ingot]

Maybe it’s because I overdid it with the minigame

Idk

[halcyon seal]

REAL WEAPON

[pale silo]

Yups

[halcyon seal]

the wood is whatever i already have acorns

but this

this is BIG

[buoyant pulsar]

how do you apply a secret seed

[empty ridge]

is there a list of all the new items?

[pale silo]

You do know the merchant exists?

[young notch]

BOSS 5 FOUND DEAD IN THE BRONX

[uncut gazelle]

Tag damage?

[young notch]

whyyyyyyyyy

[pale silo]

Wiki may have some

[pale silo]

It's in gfb

For mechdusa

Iirc

[young notch]

but why 😭

[pale silo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[obtuse hawk]

boss 5 on life support

[halcyon seal]

whats boss 5 again

[hollow harness]

Wiki is not completly updated so you might have just to like, try as much to find the new items and stuff

boss 5 is queen bee ?

[pale silo]

Wof go brrrr

[young notch]

Boss 5 was queen bee yes

[pale silo]

Tbh I like it

Unironically

[young notch]

It also belonged to EoC and Ocram on old gen console

[civic frost]

there was one reforge that had +25 armor pen

[pale silo]

That's only +12 raw damage

If an enemy even had 25 defence

[buoyant pulsar]

how do you apply a secret seed

[halcyon seal]

i mean tag is kinda the only thing you can do to summon reforges

[pale silo]

Press the seed icon

Type in the seed

[hollow harness]

yea

[empty ridge]

are there no actual patch notes?

[pale silo]

Yeah

[uncut gazelle]

How does it work?

[pale silo]

Not half of em

[uncut gazelle]

You get extra summon tag damage?

[pale silo]

They're leaving it a goose hunt for now

[calm ingot]

Does this make blade staff turbo broken even after the whip stack nerf

[pale silo]

They'll release the full thing after a while

[hollow harness]

I guess so

[pale silo]

It's on their forums if you want more info

[hollow harness]

You get extra summon tag damage for the whip I guess

[calm ingot]

And by nerf I mean complete removal

[civic frost]

im not too sure lo, i havent played too much w the reforges for summoner, just checking out new shit

[uncut gazelle]

That is a nerf, if I've ever seen one

[hollow harness]

Blade Staff might be balanced now I think,

[pale silo]

Nah as blade was only turbo broken cause of whip stacking letting summon tag go bonkers

It is now actually usable

And probably great on tier

Not absurdly broken tho

[buoyant pulsar]

why do you have to readd each secret seed every time

[uncut gazelle]

I wonder, how much worse is Firecracker now?

[pale silo]

Cause they're super secret seeds

They aren't meant to always be active

Hell some aren't even really compatible

Leaving them as their own option is just a bad idea

[slow pendant]

Firecracker is not affected by the whipstacking removal

[calm ingot]

20 tag from durendal + reforge
28 armor pen from reforge + shark tooth + ichor

[pale silo]

Also yeah any addons effects still work with whips

[calm ingot]

Seems pretty good

[slow pendant]

It was always at its most effective as a monowhip due to having to constantly reapply its effect

[empty ridge]

whipstacking got removed?

[pale silo]

Which is why I don't get people moaning ab it so god damn much

[hollow harness]

yae

[slow pendant]

So firecracker ended up indirectly buffed in a way

[pale silo]

Whip stacking still exists

[azure wren]

shyguymask

[pale silo]

It just doesn't impact sentries/summons much

[stark quail]

oh my god

[pale silo]

It's for whip only runs

[empty ridge]

actually a really good change

[stark quail]

you need to use a life crystal to get rain in your world

[slow pendant]

???????

[stark quail]

NO WONDER IVE BEEN WAITING

OH MY GOD

[hollow harness]

oh right funny change

[stark quail]

FYUCKFDWASDJFGKDHFGDHFH

[calm ingot]

Is this new?

[pale silo]

All it does is clean the sentry/summon bonus

Not the whip effects

[uncut gazelle]

It technically is, since something like Snapthorn and Durendal made it reapply the effect more often

[hollow harness]

you can only get windy days and rain only after you consume 1 life crystal

[calm ingot]

I’ve been playing since 2013 and honestly had no idea

[hollow harness]

This is new

[calm ingot]

Ok good

[young notch]

I didn't realize whip stacking was so prominent beyond dark harvest + morning star

[slow pendant]

The melee speed buff of those still is available

[pale silo]

Yup!

[hollow harness]

It is mentioned on the forums page for the update

[stark quail]

yes

[slow pendant]

So no, it did not get negatively affected

[pale silo]

Even more reason why the babies in main cord are crying over nothing

[slow pendant]

Okay you gotta chill out man

[spark belfry]

Wait how'd you figure this out?

[uncut gazelle]

I might have overreacted at first then (thought the effects didn't stack either). Good to know

[pale silo]

they were the ones who were toxic to me first, and yes I'll drop it now

[hollow harness]

you kinda had to have esoteric knowledge for it (not really, just play the class and experiment

[calm ingot]

I miss terrawhip

That was funny

[azure wren]

mushi ladybugs on the kaizo seed:

[young notch]

Still don't like the new twins theme, but skeletron prime seems cool

[stark quail]

in change log

[hollow harness]

Read the changelogs,

[mystic eagle]

'Hell yeah I'm done with school for today, time to play 1.4.5... FUCK!'

[buoyant pulsar]

but the richaadeb cover goes hard

[hollow harness]

They have a lot of stuff that is important

[spark belfry]

Yeah I can't do that.. (please ignore this)

[spark belfry]

Aight thanks

[uncut gazelle]

The only technical knowledge you actually need is Firecracker's effect not being set on a timer, but a hit instead

Everything else should be pretty much basic knowledge given by the power of reading the items' description and some thinknig

[hollow harness]

You can find a changelogs.txt file in the Terraria folder in ~/steamapps/common/Terraria

[spark belfry]

It's on the terraria wiki luckily, sorry my brain is dumb today

[calm ingot]

Do summons still get the armor pen from sharpening station when you hold a melee weapon

Or did that get removed a while ago

[hollow harness]

Nope

Fixed in this update

[calm ingot]

[slow pendant]

No, but summoner reforges give inherit AP

And a lot of it

[calm ingot]

Summoner melee is probably still the best class regardless

[slow pendant]

So it doesn't matter

[still sorrel]

Is miracle matter (item) going to get resprite yet again?

[buoyant pulsar]

dude..., why are you talking about calamity

[slow pendant]

Hybrid is bound to be the best class in vanilla by default, alternating between a good tag whip, a debuff weapon and a main weapon seems to be the play

[buoyant pulsar]

this is the terraria server and the terraria channel

[uncut gazelle]

Kind of off-topic, but I went with summoner and melee hybrid at the end of Homeward Journey, and it was probably the hardest I've broken the mod so far

[obtuse hawk]

what class should i start with

summoner seems to have gotten a glowup

[calm ingot]

Melee considering you only start the game with tools and a shortsword

[hollow harness]

play summoner 👍

[grave geyser]

summoner and melee are the only 2 with fun changes ngl

[uncut gazelle]

Probably summoner, although yoyo only melee seems to be an interesting choice too

[uncut gazelle]

True

[grave geyser]

the other 2 are just kinda there

[hollow harness]

the early-game is easier (you can craft a whip in less than 30 minutes of gameplay)

[uncut gazelle]

Did mage and ranger actually had any changes, actually?

[spark belfry]

facts

[grave geyser]

some

but nothing super noteworthy

[obtuse hawk]

yoyos are cool

[calm ingot]

Nothing particularly significant

[lapis oak]

wow they actually killed boss 4

daring

[grave geyser]

space gun and laser rifle got some fun stuff and shroomite works the way people think it does now

[uncut gazelle]

Uh, still, what are those changes?

[grave geyser]

thats about it

oh wait how could I forget

[calm ingot]

Shroomite got buffed to not have the weird thing where it didn’t affect ammo

[grave geyser]

+1 crit to musket and -1 mana cost to thunder zapper

[uncut gazelle]

Lovely!

[slim wedge]

Oh yeah, there's lightning storms in the game now

[calm ingot]

Oh and dart rifle/dart pistol got gutted

The only fun vanilla Ranger weapons

[slow pendant]

Musket is already amazing in vanilla so idk why they felt the need to buff it, and in a very insignificant way too

[uncut gazelle]

[grave geyser]

dart weapons will live btw idk why people are being so doom and gloom about this

[uncut gazelle]

That's genuinely sad

[calm ingot]

They’ll live but they won’t be the best option anymore

Now they’ll get thrown in with the trash

Now we can go back to worshipping stormbow as our only god

[lapis oak]

I'm not really familiar with boss 4 but I can see why people will mourn over it

[serene parrot]

I will never believe in stormbow

[calm ingot]

Too bad because it’s all you’re getting

That and uzi I guess

[uncut gazelle]

No, my God is Snapthorn

[grave geyser]

crystal doesnt blow up dest as bad anymore and thats about it
ichor is slightly weaker
cursed kinda got fucked though I cant lie

[calm ingot]

Have fun farming for Uzi

[serene parrot]

onyx blaster

[slim wedge]

Wasn't boss 4 golem and Cultist?

[grave geyser]

the nerfs are
super overstated

[lapis oak]

no boss 4 is Queen Bee

[grave geyser]

these are really small in the grand scheme of things

[slim wedge]

Ah

[serene parrot]

i thought boss 5 was queen bee

[serene parrot]

what happened to cursed

[uncut gazelle]

People tend to overreact over... pretty much any change (myself included)

[lapis oak]

every Youtube music vids don't say so so idk man

[grave geyser]

droplets dont pierce anymore

[serene parrot]

the wiki says queen bee is boss 5

[serene parrot]

i see
pretty bad

[grave geyser]

it hurts both its dest and prime performance

[lapis oak]

and also why would boss 5 be Queen Bee Golem/Cultist is way after her

[calm ingot]

And old one’s army don’t forget

[split ginkgo]

Queen bee boss theme funny enough was also ocrams theme

[still bluff]

terraria doesn't necessarily make sense just saying

[serene parrot]

because queen bee was introduced after golem i think

could be wrong on that one

[grave geyser]

t2 old ones is free anyway so I dont care :)

[pale silo]

1.2 Vs 1.2.3 iirc

I think bee was .3 anyways

[grave geyser]

anyway why the actual fuck would you use cursed darts on ooa

[pale silo]

Golem was 1.2 pure

[split ginkgo]

queen bee is 1.2

funny

im drunk what

[pale silo]

Well both same version then

[lapis oak]

ngl I thought King Slime theme was gonna be more funky

[pale silo]

So just depends on order of development

[lapis oak]

didn't know what I was expecting tbh

[calm ingot]

Oh I thought we were still talking about crystal I can’t read
Uhh you could probably aim them above it like you’d use North Pole but it’d probably suck

[grave geyser]

that barely takes advantage of them piercing anyway

realistically its overall just a big nerf to dest performace and then a moderate nerf on twins/prime

[spark belfry]

I just saw the buffed obsidian swordfish, low-key looks good now

[dull heart]

oh

they broke hoiks

[stark quail]

im regretting doing skyblock on a medium world

[dull heart]

the platform hoiks

[uncut gazelle]

Since tag damage doesn't stack, but whip effects do, can someone answer what happens with tag crit? Does it get overriden by the highest number too?

[stark quail]

idk why i did that

[calm ingot]

So what you’re telling me is it got gutted
Queen slime also

[spark belfry]

wait what they don't work anymore?

[dull heart]

wait what whip effects stack

[lapis oak]

OKAY

[grave geyser]

what no

[lapis oak]

Harpoon damn this bleeding debuff is strong

[uncut gazelle]

Buff whip effects*, mostly Snapthorn, Durendal and Dark Harvest, as far as I know

[lapis oak]

genuinely a glow up

[dull heart]

oh

[slim wedge]

Ight lightning hurts

[uncut gazelle]

Maybe Cool Whip, didn't test myself yet

[lofty barn]

sleeping well knowing that we'll get high resolution calamitas portraits once 1.4.5 comes out

[modern grove]

The thought that a player playing calamity would experience only 2 themes with lyrics in them, one is yharon and the other is torch god lmao

[grave geyser]

mfs when their total base damage is nerfed from 38 to 35 (weapon is dead now)

[bright crane]

I love constellation whip

[calm ingot]

Idk I probably shouldn’t be saying anything until I test it

[lapis oak]

WHAT

[young notch]

So Dark Harvest + Morningstar still works?

[grim pecan]

please stop giving us a heart attack

[slim wedge]

Fr tho

[modern grove]

Torch god lyrics

[uncut gazelle]

I'm sorry 💔

[modern grove]

Are real

[lethal kraken]

trolled

[halcyon seal]

sorry what

[split ginkgo]

Permafrost portrait

Lmao

[lapis oak]

you recognizing Torch God has lyrics but not Scal's theme is crazy

[slim wedge]

Though whip stacking was gone?

[modern grove]

Admittedly it's an alt theme

[uncut gazelle]

...I have no idea at this point

[empty ridge]

did they disable resource packs?

[modern grove]

Which I think you can only get by throwing music box in shimmer

[primal badge]

holy shit there are fish

[lapis oak]

DUDE Harpoon is really strong wtf

[grave geyser]

to what extent?

[lapis oak]

damn this thing is crazy

[modern grove]

You can do the same with queen bee and get her alt theme

[halcyon seal]

i do not believe you im sorry

like i know youre probably right

[split ginkgo]

I wish

[halcyon seal]

but my brain cannot comprehend

harpoon

[plush carbon]

So

[empty ridge]

scal

[plush carbon]

Roller Skates huh

[halcyon seal]

being good

[uncut gazelle]

I hope it isn't gone entirely, but it may be. Requires testing and I'm too lazy to do it right now

[modern grove]

Scal isn't real

[dull heart]

platform stair hoiks don't work

[grave geyser]

I have not seen a single soul talk about them

[plush carbon]

How many bets that the Skates are getting butchered by Calamity

[dull heart]

roller skates are BROKEN

[plush carbon]

as well as the Pals

[halcyon seal]

arent they just frozen slime?

[dull heart]

no

[calm ingot]

What do they do

[dull heart]

they scale with your mining speed

[split ginkgo]

I wish i complained about having to play in an older world and older player with the newest version

[uncut gazelle]

What are those??

[halcyon seal]

OH

[dull heart]

so with mining gear they get very fast

[empty ridge]

so you can't get early temple?

[halcyon seal]

keep them around for one patch

so we can have reaver mining meta

[plush carbon]

The pink dragon pal thing is a ram dash pre-boss

[lapis oak]

what...

[plush carbon]

No chance it isn't getting nerfed to shit with cal 1.4.5

[lapis oak]

how to get pal...

[empty ridge]

there are ram dashes in vanilla?

[chrome sun]

YO WHAT

[slim wedge]

I hope it is gone entirely

[chrome sun]

😭

[calm ingot]

Solar armor

[chrome sun]

nah theres no way

[lapis oak]

I need to see it with my own eyes

how to get pals

[empty ridge]

honestly a really good change

[grave geyser]

hmmm
it doesnt seem to be mentioned in the changelogs so I'm assuming this isnt intended

[slim wedge]

True

[dull heart]

correct

it'll be re-added probsbly

[halcyon seal]

relogics said many times they want to keep hoiks in the game right

[uncut gazelle]

Theoretically, this means whip stacking is still there in some shape or form
Realistically, it is probably fully dead

[halcyon seal]

so its almost def an. ig its an accidental bug fix?

[empty ridge]

i never play melee so it makes sense that i dont know about it

[modern grove]

I will miss whipstacking

[calm ingot]

I thought they said the only reason they haven’t removed them was because doing that would require rewriting the entire codebase

[slim wedge]

I hope it's the latter

[slow pendant]

I think it's an understandable change but ngl a lot of people in here have been behaving in a very tribalistic way about it

[chrome sun]

why is whip stacking a bad thing

[slim wedge]

I wont

[halcyon seal]

very very very very very very very VERY strong

[lapis oak]

I fucking love the new Harpoon man it's crazy stuff

[calm ingot]

Because it’s an annoying thing you have to do to get absurd dps

[empty ridge]

ruins the balancing

[modern grove]

Whipstacking is fun you don't see a vision

[chrome sun]

summoner needs it 💔

[halcyon seal]

no it doesnt

esp not after this update

[young notch]

I can understand why it would be removed considering the plethora of new whips added in this update

[chrome sun]

ok after this update like

[spark belfry]

It really doesn't need it..

[split ginkgo]

Harpoon is no longer finally dogshit????

Based!!!

[calm ingot]

Summoner needs the friendly reforge more than it needs whipstscking

[chrome sun]

with the 5 tentacle whip maybe not

[empty ridge]

summoner literally got enough whips to have proper progression in this update

[chrome sun]

but it makes summoner fun

[grave geyser]

I kinda just see it the same way I saw coldheart removal
can it be fun? yeah, is it a massive balance headache? yeah

[slim wedge]

Summoner got like 6 new whips this update, summoner is fine

[lapis oak]

ok I will buy a 500$ mouse so I can scroll through my whip list effortlessly

[slow pendant]

Vanilla summoner was barely keeping up with other classes' dps in vanilla, it wasn't inherently broken

[spark belfry]

speaking of which have you seen the stardust whip, honestly my favorite looking whip I LOVE the projectiles it creates

[plush carbon]

hold on the hapoon got changes
oops

[slim wedge]

For you

[halcyon seal]

hence why it got a bunch of buffs this update

[empty ridge]

it makes summoner annoying

[slow pendant]

It just made balancing much mmroe difficult since there were a lot of variables to take into account

[serene parrot]

im glad whip stacking is gone, it was unnecessarily complicated compared to other classes' mechanics

[slim wedge]

Im looking forward to it, since im playing summoner rn

[chrome sun]

why tho

[slim wedge]

Same

[halcyon seal]

i appreciate summoner being a complicated class to some extent but i think you should incentivize that with minion mixing

not whip stacking

[calm ingot]

Not to mention most casual players don’t even know it exists

[lapis oak]

😋

[halcyon seal]

now this has GOTTA be bait. dont feed the kiri, guys

[stark quail]

i was trying to talk to a skeleton merchant and a bat knocked him into the endlessw void

im gonna cry

[uncut gazelle]

Sorry, but I want to put my 5 cents into the discussion, and say that the former would probably be the best approach to the whip stacking situation as a whole
It doesn't break the balance in half like it used to (especially since most Hardmode whips now have tag critical strike chance), but it doesn't completely remove the "mechanic" (more so an exploit) either, meaning if people want to use it, they would still be able to

[spark belfry]

4 per tick wow

[grave geyser]

there is so much depth to summoner as is
and honestly I dont think stacking had all that much depth but that might be a mildly hot take

[calm ingot]

Agreed, minion mixing and hybrid armor is more interesting than scrolling your mouse while you fight a boss

[slow pendant]

I agree that summoner has a lot of depth

Vanilla summoner at least

[empty ridge]

unnecessarily complicated and high maintenance mechanic that was necessary to do viable damage

[slow pendant]

Cal summoner suffers from having minion mixing be even less viable in combination to many minions having flawless AI and mobing capabilities

[chrome sun]

but thats what makes it fun 😔

[slim wedge]

And i don't use either of those

[slow pendant]

Like, i don't think ancient icechunk minions should behave like heatseeking missiles to enemies 3 screens away from me

[calm ingot]

Because currently they’re not that useful

[grave geyser]

welcome back to "enemies dont matter in cal" edition 300

[calm ingot]

At least compared to whip stacking

[slim wedge]

Complicated =/= fun, at least to me

[grave geyser]

do they still do that? I thought they just shot projectiles if you were far away now

[spark belfry]

Hey, they make sure you're REALLY safe.

[halcyon seal]

enemy balancing is an entire thing that i think modded terraria as a whole needs to adjust to

[hollow harness]

^

[spark belfry]

Agreed

[chrome sun]

its complicated and rewarding tho

[pale silo]

They still can to an extent btw. Just only for whip damage. Not sentry/summon damage

[halcyon seal]

for the past decade-ish of (popular) terraria modding, most people have just viewed the game as a boss rush

i was one of them

[slow pendant]

They do, but those shots still go through walls and they have Hawkeye vision

[hollow harness]

enemy balancing also includes weapon balancing and redesign of weapons

[halcyon seal]

back in like 2017 i only cared about bosses

[calm ingot]

Tbf they don’t really matter in vanilla besides on legendary either
Or master if you’re underprepared

[slow pendant]

They'll snipe enemies you don't even see

[slim wedge]

For like 4 damage every 3rd hit

[uncut gazelle]

Agree, but I think there are already a somewhat good example of this in the modding scene

[grave geyser]

yeah no

[grim pecan]

obsidian swordfish buffs we're so back (it'll still be dogshit)

[halcyon seal]

im not saying theres none bc there definitely are some mods with good non-boss enemy balancing

[uncut gazelle]

Whip damage? What do you mean?

[chrome sun]

nah what if you do it with enough whips you can get some crazy tag dmg esp with a summon like blade staff

[grave geyser]

the swordfish buff alegedly doesnt even work properly

[hollow harness]

have you tried it,

[pale silo]

Like back when obby armour meta

[empty ridge]

early hardmode is the only point where they do anything

[pale silo]

When whip only damage

[halcyon seal]

but for the vast majority of mods, yeah enemies are mostly an afterthought

[grave geyser]

someone said the projectiles dont even do melee damage

[lapis oak]

have you seen Harpoon

[pale silo]

You can still whip stack for whip only damage stuff

[slow pendant]

Mobbing in vanilla expert is harder than in cal death mode

[calm ingot]

Unless you’re on legendary pretty much

[slow pendant]

No exaggerations here

[pale silo]

Just doesn't impact sentries/summons much

[halcyon seal]

fargos tries to make enemies hard but most of them just have on-hit effects

[slim wedge]

Nah id rather just use the whip that just has better stats

[spark belfry]

It went from dogshit to average

[halcyon seal]

id say the only dangerous area is the underground jungle atm

[calm ingot]

Sorry I’m a melee main

[grave geyser]

ok cool however have you considered whip focused summoner has not been particularly good since the era of pre nerf obsidian

[pale silo]

And ofc nerfs to some buffs staying for too long, but If you were doing one swing per whip anyways that wouldn't matter

[halcyon seal]

and maybe hell if you dont know how to handle demons

[slow pendant]

^

[halcyon seal]

i miss pre-nerf obsidian

[slow pendant]

You either go full minions+whips or go hybrid builds

[halcyon seal]

wasnt it on par with stardust lmao

[uncut gazelle]

Okay, now I get it. Sorry

[slow pendant]

Why would you use only whips

[pale silo]

It's what the people in maincord was complaining about is all I know. Their actual whip damage. Not summon extra damage (in their own words)

[chrome sun]

yeah and you can, you can play summoner fine without whip stacking

[pale silo]

So idk

[uncut gazelle]

I hope Fearmonger will make us happy in this regard 💔

[slow pendant]

Whip stacking was always about the tag damage

[calm ingot]

The same reason you’d beat the game with only a sandgun or whatever

[slow pendant]

What the hell are you talking about

[slim wedge]

Like what is Summoner without SUMMONS?

[chrome sun]

but the choice of more complexity for higher damage is very nice

[pale silo]

Idk ask them not me

[grave geyser]

I mean, terawhip...

[vestal osprey]

I to this day dont even know what tag damage does

[pale silo]

They're the ones that made it clear ab whip damage not tag damage

[calm ingot]

And also the whip speed
That was the big one for whip focused builds

[slow pendant]

That one was the exception

[empty ridge]

adds extra damage to your summons

[slow pendant]

But it got patched out a long time ago

[hollow harness]

Tag damage just adds extra flat damage to your summons

[pale silo]

Flat increase to damage basically

[dull heart]

OH

[chrome sun]

tag dmg from whips is percentage in calamity right or am i bugging

[dull heart]

have yall seen the way to survive hardcore death

[potent scroll]

what the hell?, i got a 1 plat coin when i Exracted my fossil how rare is this?

[vestal osprey]

not yet

[pale silo]

Mk10 + constant

[slim wedge]

Then I'll just keep doing that and leave that nerdy complicated whip stacking bs to people like you

[pale silo]

Is all I know

[hollow harness]

Tag damage in Calamity is multiplicative right now

[pale silo]

Not finer details

[slow pendant]

Yes but ita placeholder

[dull heart]

||CelebMk10 + The Constant makes you lose max life on death in hardcore instead of outright losing char||

[empty ridge]

the what?

[hollow harness]

placeholder blunder (it fucked up)

[slow pendant]

Whips in current cal are pretty bad lol, hopefully brainstorm fleshes them out for good

[spark belfry]

Very rare, good stuff

[pale silo]

Ah that's good

[slow pendant]

They feel so unfinished

[pale silo]

That sounds like genuine fun actually

[slow pendant]

Pretty sure most of them still have a misleading description

[chrome sun]

its not like you have to choose between using 9 whips and 1, i normally use 2-3 and for most of post-ml just morning star and kaleidoscope

[dull heart]

it won't (we needed 1.4.5 to be able to plan them at all)

[dusk jay]

Cal enemies might not be a challenge but at least it's not like masochist mode where a moth shits sparkles all over your screen and gives you 5 debuffs on hit

[potent scroll]

O-O

[dull heart]

but brainstorm DOES fix the descriptions

and adjust the tags

[empty ridge]

you can get it back with life crystals right?

[potent scroll]

i just got a 0.0073% thing OMG

[calm ingot]

Is this what you have to do to get the achievement

[chrome sun]

the point is with each extra whip you get diminishing extra dmg but with greater effort

[pale silo]

Chances are sso will be when it changes

[pale silo]

Likely not

[slow pendant]

Better than nothing i suppose

[calm ingot]

That is maybe the dumbest way to get an achievement I’ve ever heard

[pale silo]

If it's anything like just starve

[grave geyser]

oh yeah this is what dst does I kinda forgot that

[slim wedge]

WHAT?

[grave geyser]

you need like another item to recover the other half of your max health

[spark belfry]

Pre-moonlord for calamity is gonna be real fun when 1.4.5 ports

[grave geyser]

iirc

[pale silo]

Maybe there is an item that does so

But only spawns while hp is halfed

[slim wedge]

If it ever gets ported

[pale silo]

In that seed combo

[manic rivet]

I hope one of the updates adds post-moonlord whips

[grave geyser]

possession is going to be so hilariously broken on release

I cannot wait

[grave rock]

will it

[spark belfry]

The fact that it's already the end of January fills me with hope, time is gonna fly this year

[uncut gazelle]

What the fuck is terawhip...

...oh, Terra Blade + speed whips?

[spark belfry]

whip from a mod

[grave geyser]

^

[uncut gazelle]

[spark belfry]

Oh

[uncut gazelle]

How can I downgrade to an older version to try it out?

[slim wedge]

Theres already been a lot of things that happened just this month

[grave geyser]

1.4.3 tmod

[uncut gazelle]

Thanks

[slim wedge]

Lightning hits enemies almost as hard as Fallen Stars 😭

[grave geyser]

obscene attack speed + great tag + what seems to be a fucking absurd onhit effect

and also just

every ml drop has a history of being broken in cal

[grim pecan]

xyk posted a clip of a bunch of us dying to lighnting

it was very fun

[uncut gazelle]

Actually, since Constellation has an on-hit effects (stars), does it mean that speed whips are useful for something else other than Firecracker (and damage increase from whips directly)?

[slim wedge]

I just Died to lightning (again)

[grim pecan]

,

[spark belfry]

Shocking

[grave geyser]

I think the only wasnt that wasnt at some point is like
star wrath sdmg and like
celebration mk 1

ig lunar flare

[drowsy reef]

hey does mage get like

anything in this update at all

i'm tired of it being the forgotten middle child

[grim pecan]

as far as i can tell, the on hit effects can only trigger once per whip hit.

[grave geyser]

laser rifle works with meteor armor now

[slow pendant]

Remember when meowwere was like, DoG viable

[grave geyser]

no but I dont doubt it

br viable terrarian

[primal badge]

I'm pretty sure star wrath used to be really really strong at one point

[grave geyser]

cele mk 2 killing provi in 45 seconds

[slow pendant]

Or when terrarian got like, twice-yeah

[primal badge]

The horrors

[drowsy reef]

what a useful interaction

[grim pecan]

i haven't tested all the whips, and possession attacks like 5 times a second but only one attack can trigger the on hit effect after striking with the whip

[slow pendant]

Terrarian at one point was insane, why did they gave it local without nerfing its base damage (which was double of vanilla's) is beyond me

[grave geyser]

last prism.

the sentries are still broken

[grim pecan]

funny

[grave geyser]

they nerfed yoyo bag its fine it'l be balanced

[grim pecan]

meowmere 1:29 providence... those were good days.

[pale silo]

im p sure its been indirectly buffed again from yoyo bag buff

idk how much tho

at least the components was buffed

string and counterfeit

[dull heart]

oh hey

[pale silo]

so i assume the actual bag was too

[uncut gazelle]

Are there any server or maps with all the new known stuff yet?

[grave geyser]

the only cal change it has is stars losing pierce so maybe?

[dull heart]

there's a pre boss mount with a dash

[pale silo]

oh?

[grave geyser]

oops

[drowsy reef]

digtoise is pretty good

[grim pecan]

doze can you look through the code and tell me how to get magic string

[dull heart]

sure

[grim pecan]

thank you

[spark belfry]

Nice.

[drowsy reef]

i have heard you can just leave it there and it'll dig to hell for you

[dull heart]

uhh

post 1 mech... something to do with chests???

what??

[grave geyser]

???

[dull heart]

is it like the stupid keys

[spark belfry]

the plantera keys?

[grim pecan]

oh fuck is there a new biome key

[grave geyser]

no

someone would've found it by now

surely

[spark belfry]

Unless

[dull heart]

gradient, format c

[lapis oak]

I miss my

[dull heart]

how are those gotten

[stray matrix]

isnt the laser rifle busted now?

[dull heart]

is that traveling merchant?

[lapis oak]

my Recipe Browser

[dull heart]

or is is skeleton

[hollow harness]

gradient and format c are skeletron merchant items

[dull heart]

it's whoever sells those post 1 mech

[lapis oak]

the Slime Spear is so ass 😭

[spark belfry]

ofc

[hollow harness]

code 1 and code 2 are travelling merchant's

[dull heart]

and slap hand

wait

is that a crate

ok

[grave geyser]

skele merch

[dull heart]

skeleton merchant post one mech

[grim pecan]

got it, skele merchant after 1 mech

[grave geyser]

ok

[fallen gust]

is calamity alr ported to 1.4.5

[grave geyser]

no

it will not be for several months

[fallen gust]

shit

[fallen gust]

thank you 👍

[dull heart]

magic string causes detached yoyos to do 75% dmg and kb

[fallen gust]

what channel was that in?

[grave geyser]

this one

[fallen gust]

ok

ty

[grave geyser]

75% less or 75%

[serene parrot]

i miss my dash hotkey

[pale silo]

sounds like it could be good?

i assume its 0.75x

[grave geyser]

good is an understatement

[grim pecan]

also depends if yoyos with unique effects keep their effects

[dull heart]

remember

[pale silo]

yeah

[dull heart]

yoyos have global iframes

iirc

[grim pecan]

woe, 5000 ozzathoths be upon ye

[grave geyser]

^

[grave geyser]

in vanilla yes
in cal though....

[dull heart]

in cal yeah

[hollow harness]

global iframes.....

[winter kiln]

i just got a line from the merchant that implies Star Trek exists in the Terraria universe

[grave geyser]

if they do...
welcome back br viable terrarian?

[spark belfry]

Oh my god... 1.4.6, terraria X Star Trek collab.

[mystic eagle]

Oh dear god

[grave geyser]

ok so I just saw skates
yeah uhhh

[mystic eagle]

I saw this in terramain

[grave geyser]

rip boots LOL

[winter kiln]

what the hell is this

[spark belfry]

All of that and still no lava charm

[mystic eagle]

All seeds combined

[lyric trellis]

Huge

[pale silo]

doze sent it here first >:3

[winter kiln]

including new secret ones? wow

[pale silo]

thats all secret minus the old secret

no zenith or dont dig up basically

[grim pecan]

obsidian swordfish shoots 1-3 gravity affected projectiles with what looks to be 50% base damage

i'm megabuffing this idc what anyone says

[grave geyser]

alegedly the projectiles are not melee damage

so

[naive sluice]

new whips are cool

[grim pecan]

why am i not surprised

[spark belfry]

Stardust whip my beloved..

[pale silo]

tbh i agree with most weapons doing this, namely early game fun ones (or hard to get ones)

[raw vector]

obsidian swordfish moved to post DoG
obsidian swordfish dmg values increased by factor of 20,000

[pale silo]

more viability in the unique weapons definitely cant hurt

[grim pecan]

don't tempt me

[naive sluice]

just like god intended

[pale silo]

dew it

[lyric trellis]

AEW drop

[spark belfry]

Can we also get a True Obsidian Swordfish?

[naive sluice]

move all vanilla weapons to post DoG

[pale silo]

minishark for yharon

[naive sluice]

trust me in cooking

[naive sluice]

Megashark for Exo Mechs

[pale silo]

daedelus for scal

[raw vector]

now we're getting somewhere

[lapis oak]

omg a lot of changed weapons are through fishing

[grim pecan]

this is my hellkite

[lapis oak]

this is glorpshit I can't be bothered to get all of them

[pale silo]

i think the 50% journey ach should change to 100%

[lapis oak]

ok psycho

[naive sluice]

Cool Update but without my lifeblood i just cant play terraria

[pale silo]

you should try plasmium

[naive sluice]

Cal QoL feels the game feel so much faster, im at a snails pace in vanilla now

[pale silo]

the main cal qol is the vanilla ftw qol

so just play ftw and itll feel similar to cal

in terms of mining speed anyways

[naive sluice]

no 💔

[spark belfry]

I actually appreciate going back to vanilla with these updates, with the pace it takes for progression exploration actually feels exciting

[primal badge]

journey mode is pretty good QoL honestly

and it's the closest to QoL you can actually get

the low fishing power fishing experience

[naive sluice]

Idk whats exciting about holding m1 button for longer just to get to the new places but you do you

[rose laurel]

I thought that was a battery

[primal badge]

what am I even supposed to with 88 bass

[naive sluice]

EAT THEM

YUMMERS

[lyric trellis]

Eat

[pale silo]

infinite food buff

medium iirc

88 should last the entire run

if not close to it

[spark belfry]

[primal badge]

bass only crafts into weak iirc

[pale silo]

its still better then nothing

[stark quail]

i think im doing skyblock wrong

i feel strupid

[pale silo]

(fishing in ocean for ocean fish i think is med)

[primal badge]

yeah

still it's 8min per fish