calamity-update-talk

[primal badge]

so there ARE other islands

[honest vine]

that ||king slime theme|| is dogshit

but im so happy i dont care

[verbal elk]

its like 1/4 of the world away from the spawn island

ignore the weird path i was usign rod of harmony

[stark quail]

are there more islands on skyblock seed? o_o

[lapis oak]

whip stacking removed

sgm's biggest nightmare

[orchid finch]

I mean, Minecraft skyblock had multiple islands

[verbal elk]

theres a shimmer island

i think thats it tho

[orchid finch]

Why shouldn't Terraria have?

[verbal elk]

minecraft skyblock also started with water

[primal badge]

the bucket rain collecting mechanic is so weird

[stark quail]

maybe theres a water island?

[verbal elk]

(im just salty i dont have water)

[primal badge]

sometimes you have to wait like 30 seconds for the bucket to fill

[main falcon]

Stackable accesories????

[dull heart]

oh goodness

[primal badge]

nah

wait for it to rain

then throw out buckets

they collect water

[stark quail]

thatskinda Painful

[primal badge]

I got like 20 buckets

it doesn't matter if you throw out 2 or 20000

if stacked up

[stark quail]

thats good to know

[primal badge]

buckets fill at the same, though random, amount of time

you can throw them and they insta fill

or throw and wait 30 seconds

[honest vine]

terraria slowly turning into thorium

[primal badge]

but I now have a pond

[stark quail]

im going like 1000 blocks underground w rope

i wonder if cavern layer has anything interesting

[verbal elk]

does shimmer have anything for easier water access

[primal badge]

not that I can think of?

Well no there shouldn't be

[stark quail]

OHH...?????

i havent even built a third house

[dull heart]

yeah i did more research

it's not possible to dehash the hashes for secret seeds

so we have the secret seed names to go off

[dense sundial]

Hey, can someone explain something to me

[vestal osprey]

Whats the hardest looking secret seed found?

[dense sundial]

HOW MANY BOTTLES OF BEER did it take to make this change?

[primal badge]

six

six bottles of beer

[hasty hawk]

like 7

at least

maybe 25 bottles

Wtf were these guys thinking

[orchid finch]

25 armor pen

[hasty hawk]

or they werent at all with that amount of armor pen

[orchid finch]

That's a lot

[azure wren]

put em all together

[vestal osprey]

thats just a zenith skyblock isnt it?

[stark quail]

no

its much worse...

much. much worse

[orchid finch]

GFB skyblock sounds

Ridiculous

[stark quail]

from what i saw its not really just Zenith Skyblock

[vestal osprey]

Ima gonna check it out

[stark quail]

its components of every seed + Skyblock + Zenith

[primal badge]

How do you even combine DDU with Skyblock

[stark quail]

ddu?

[hasty hawk]

For Gfb does the classic gfb seed still work or you have to do GFB Skyblock, Bloodmoon, Start at hardmode, You’re a vampire, etc

[primal badge]

don't dig up

the upside down seed

is it just

DDU item changes

[stark quail]

iirc i think the island is just in hell

[primal badge]

That is cool actually

[vestal osprey]

You open up the world and immidalty get swarmed with corruption, crimson, and underworld enemies

[azure wren]

yeah

[primal badge]

I wonder if there's some easy way to get cobwebs in Skyblock

[vestal osprey]

Looks at waffletime funny

[azure wren]

putting in all the new secret seeds along with the others basically results in a kaizo seed

[stark quail]

waffletime mentioned

[vestal osprey]

Waffle time has new torture to complete

Once again on mediumcore

[hasty hawk]

How much time for the “I spent 100 days in the Kaizo seed”?

[verbal elk]

the kids dont know what kaizo means

its def gonna be like terraria's hardest seed

or something like that

[acoustic oriole]

guys when is 1.3 releasing

[vestal osprey]

Is that waht were calling it?

Kaizo seed

[verbal elk]

3-5 days

[hasty hawk]

1.3 is releasing Feb 30

[regal rose]

is 1.4.5 out on calamity

is it better to play it on vanilla or calamity

[primal badge]

it's releasing in early Maruary or Apruary

[primal badge]

read pins

[lapis oak]

awesome new Demon Orb

[regal rose]

so 1.4.5 isnt on calamity

[vivid hemlock]

demon orb finally doesnt look like glass anymore

yep

[stark quail]

THE SKELETONS ARE AFTER ME

wait

it just dawned on me

[regal rose]

yo

[stark quail]

@primal badge how on earth do u think the dungeon is gonna exist

[regal rose]

so is 1.4.5 om c alamity

or ono

[stark quail]

no

[regal rose]

oh

[snow onyx]

[regal rose]

so is everyone playing vanilla rn

[verbal elk]

ive seen 0 dungeons so far

[stark quail]

wtf

[lapis oak]

Musket got new firing sound???

[stark quail]

there's gotta be something

[verbal elk]

surely its in the top right corner that i havent explored

[lapis oak]

it's peak

[primal badge]

yes

[verbal elk]

wait i just realised

how the hell is golem going to spawn

[stark quail]

yeah that too

i can see how plantera can be summoned but wtf about golem

[vestal osprey]

Looks like a demonic jawbreaker

[verbal elk]

actually power cells probably directly summon golem

[stark quail]

and we get those....

idk

i doubt the temple exists

[verbal elk]

there was no dungeon in the top right corner

[primal badge]

I mean

dungeon HAS to be somewhere, no?

for you to be able to spawn ML

[verbal elk]

i cant be bothered to look thru the underground

[dull heart]

this is what we know so far

most of the seeds we're yet to know

35 in total

[obtuse hawk]

damn

[primal badge]

no surface sounds fun

[stark quail]

portal gun in chests

[obtuse hawk]

secret seeds galore brah

[distant raft]

truckstop 😭

[pale silo]

Dungeon doesn't exist. You have to place blocks where the dungeon spawned internally

[stark quail]

what is digextraholes...

[lapis oak]

DOG

[verbal elk]

thats going to be insanely fun

[stark quail]

[lapis oak]

I DIDN'T GET THE NEW DUNGEON

this is glorpshit

🥀

[primal badge]

And you have to figure it out how

[stark quail]

skyblock is gonna be really.... hard....

[obtuse hawk]

its gonna feel like a memory game

[acoustic oriole]

thats hell

[pale silo]

Correct

It only takes like 5 platforms tho

In the rough side it is

Which means on two sides of the world

[primal badge]

I was hoping they'd make the seed at least relatively sane for that part

[verbal elk]

can you fish up fishron in any body of water

[pale silo]

It's just more sane

[primal badge]

if you're in the ocean yes afaik

[verbal elk]

as in can it be any size

[pale silo]

If at the ocean yeah

Sky and hell too

As long as it's on that side

[stark quail]

okay

i may or may not have roped to the bottom of the world

[acoustic oriole]

error seed is hell

[stark quail]

interesting

i wanna check some of those secret seeds out

[obtuse hawk]

terrar ia

[woeful yarrow]

I'm already Playing the masochist seed

[primal badge]

ter rawr ia

[lapis oak]

Flintlock got new sound too

[woeful yarrow]

The compaind all seeds

[stark quail]

whats special about the errorWorld seed

[brittle patrol]

I like the Teto Sherma

[verbal elk]

FINALLY

[stark quail]

im not noticing anything

[woeful yarrow]

On mobile

[primal badge]

Teto Sherma is peak

[brittle patrol]

DA RI FO SHI PI MA WEN

[primal badge]

-# May or may not be matching pfps with someone who has Teto Hornet

[brittle patrol]

for yuri reasons?

[acoustic oriole]

how do you get the flint weapon

[stark quail]

wait im dumb

nvm

[verbal elk]

is there a revive item in game now

or is it joining a world where a hardcore character died

[stark quail]

the errorworld seed is definitely... something...

[dull heart]

show

[fickle lava]

its in a seed combo

[stark quail]

all the worldgen is kinda fucked up theres like

giant pillars

uh

stuff like this

ABSURDLY tall trees

[verbal elk]

damn error skyblock isnt that different

its just random blocks in the ground

[stark quail]

i open a single sky chest and its a trash can with flurry boots and a flare gun....

[verbal elk]

IS THAT A DARK CELESTIAL BRICK

[grave geyser]

I'm assuming this is like, constant + drunk or something :/

[primal badge]

yeah this is definitely one of the seeds ever

[pale silo]

Looks fun

[stark quail]

oh my god

looks like all of the chest loot is randomly generated

sunfury in a jungle chest

Oh.

[primal badge]

hmm

IDENTICAL TIMING

[stark quail]

turkey wattle necklace?

is that new

[primal badge]

EXCUSE ME

ITEM ON THE RIGHT

[stark quail]

??????????????

WHAT

[vivid hemlock]

universal pylon 🔥

[verbal elk]

its called error world for a reason

[stark quail]

HUH

why is there a FLOATING ISLADN IN THE UNDERGROUND JUNGLE

[primal badge]

Why is there a trash can as a chest

[azure wren]

i am error

[primal badge]

this seed may be peak too

[stark quail]

MANA CRYSTAL

???????

[verbal elk]

finally mana crystals generate naturally

i was getting tired of looking for stars

[primal badge]

"hell"stone

[stark quail]

celestial magnet in an ocean chest

WTF

there was an enchanted sword shrine right next to the ocean lmao

ima go test a lot of the seeds

[primal badge]

amazing

and I found stylish scissors

and also a bubble of shimmer randomly

[stark quail]

aint no way

they added a seed with cheat sheet lighting

[primal badge]

like what the hell is this supposed to be

[slim wedge]

This update is insane

[spark kiln]

that’s the fucked seed

[verbal elk]

i know

[slim wedge]

The new crafting item effect looks really cool

[stone fiber]

A bubble

[stark quail]

time to test "bring a towel" seed

oh

i think this is just a seed where it rains forever

does anyone know if there is a way to combine special world seeds

outside of the main 8

[stone fiber]

So guys, is there any info on Calamity NPCs' Shimmer forms?

[iron hull]

what seed is that?

[primal badge]

secret ones?

just type them in one by one

[stark quail]

like in order in the seed box?

[primal badge]

first type one

confirm

then type another

then confirm

[stark quail]

ohg wow

[primal badge]

you can then check on the special seed menu

and see this (two example seeds combined)

[stone fiber]

Makes you wonder why is it not called "bring an umbrella" then

[stark quail]

Okay

[naive sluice]

i cant play vanilla terraria

im so used to modded

[pale silo]

"can't" Vs "won't"

All that is is an excuse. It's just a slower playstyle is all~

[stiff light]

the lightning storms r so strong man

eye of cthulhu lasted like 10 seconds out there

[pale silo]

Wait they're stronger then fallen stars?

And I assume far more localised

[stiff light]

3 strikes hit him

and he blew up

[pale silo]

Imagine EoW

[modern grove]

Can't wait for exo mechs lightning strike only video

[stiff light]

no they LOCK on

[azure wren]

real

[pale silo]

Oh god

[stiff light]

they lock onto enemies

[pale silo]

Lightning only damage when

[winter kiln]

Unless i'm stupid and tmod devs were working alongside terraria devs i think it'll sadly be a while before we get a tmod 1.4.5 update

[stone fiber]

I bet someone's already making that

[potent scroll]

i cant play without my magic storage but i can live without other mod

[stray matrix]

im enjoying the update

just got a musket.

[thorn pier]

lock in

[pale silo]

The main lure of magic is the crafting from one chest type thing

[thorn pier]

lock in twin

[stark quail]

oh my god

[pale silo]

Which 1.4.5 does now

[stark quail]

the RAINBOW BOULDERS

help

[azure wren]

next update they add something like the "kaizo" seed where it adds everything together and people can start making content farms from "I BEAT EVERY SECRET SEED AT THE SAME TIME"

[pale silo]

You can alr do that

You just...add them all together

With zenith too

[stiff light]

always am twin

[winter kiln]

I guess it's time for my first vanilla playthrough in years

Now that 1.4.5 is out

Crazy that they just shadowdropped the update

[pale silo]

Shadow dropped??

[stiff light]

they jsut didnt do that

[pale silo]

They said it was today like ages ago

[winter kiln]

oh

i'm stupid

[stiff light]

happens to the worst of us

[winter kiln]

guess i wasn't paying enough attention to terraria news

[thorn pier]

[stark quail]

im convinced that every secret seed at once is PROBABLY impossible

[vestal osprey]

So much calamity update talk going on here

[pale silo]

It's for vanilla/calamity update talk

Always has been

[winter kiln]

holy shit that's a lot of new items

[stiff light]

they made the arms dealer hotter

[bright crane]

How did you get this secret seeds option?

[vestal osprey]

Change requested by the nurse

[stiff light]

w nurse

[potent scroll]

why the hell the demons eye is so freaking commonly spawn 😭

[stark quail]

Cool

[winter kiln]

how did they make him hotter

[pale silo]

Click on the seeds icon in world creation

[stark quail]

put any secret world seed into the seed input thing

[stiff light]

drool

[vestal osprey]

Dont underestimite people and thier ability to willingly suffer

[winter kiln]

oh

nice portrait

[stiff light]

need me a man like that to sell me guns

[primal badge]

Okay

Guh

[potent scroll]

have fun fighting with the nurse for him

[winter kiln]

not exactly what i expected him to look like based on his other sprites but i'm not complaining

[primal badge]

The portraits are genuinely peak

Wait do shimmered NPCs have alt portraits too

[stark quail]

honestly wait

[vestal osprey]

Yes

[stark quail]

i wanna see what a world is like with every seed BUT skyblock

one sec

[vestal osprey]

I think thats just zenith

[stark quail]

no

[primal badge]

Zenith+ all secret ones

Chaos

[winter kiln]

does the zoologist have a different portrait sprite for her full werefox form during a blood moon

[pale silo]

Random spawn with don't dig up sounds fun

[pale silo]

Yups

Same for every female afaia

(just more frayed)

[primal badge]

Random spawn with anything sounds fun

[pale silo]

Same with full moon

[pale silo]

Honestly I completely agree

gets surrounded by dungeon

[primal badge]

Random spawn + start in HM

Spawn in underground crimson

Immediately perish

Repeatedly

[stark quail]

oh

[pale silo]

That sounds like a fun time

[winged forge]

how do you get skyblock

[pale silo]

Is that maybe a secret seed?

[pale silo]

Press the seed icon

[winter kiln]

Although maybe most of them are blocks and furniture 650 new items is still a lot more than I expected

[pale silo]

Enable skyblock

Or just type in skyblock

[stark quail]

what the fuck

[potent scroll]

its so adorable ^^

[stark quail]

there's a secret chippy skeletron boss fight

[pale silo]

Yups

[stiff light]

omgg

[pale silo]

Shouldn't have sat on the couch

[stark quail]

Oh

[bright crane]

I mean this, cuz it's not showing up to me 😔

[potent scroll]

okay omg its so supe chaotic

[primal badge]

You have to type a seed in

[pale silo]

Type in a seed

[bright crane]

doesn't work

[primal badge]

randomSpawn is the internal name for it

The seed itself is the text on the right side in the list

[bright crane]

Ohhhh I see I see

ty

[stark quail]

dude the underground is filled with planetoids

this generation is horrifying

[dusty bluff]

Enjoy 1.4.5, 0 chance I play unmodded thanks for you hard work Calamity devs ❤️

[azure wren]

imagine putting literally every secret seed with death mode hardcore calamity

[stiff light]

imagined it

now what

[primal badge]

Also imagined it

[stark quail]

ok

ima go back to skyblock

[primal badge]

It's like trying to imagine unbearable torture

[kind igloo]

Im looking at the list of new seeds

The fuck do they mean poo everywhere

[azure wren]

you'd probabbly need a tool assisted superplay to beat that

[primal badge]

...What do you think red meant by poo everywhere

[kind igloo]

Even the ocean

?

[primal badge]

You can make a world and find out

[dull heart]

hey

[primal badge]

Cause idk

[dull heart]

can someone help me

[primal badge]

with

[dull heart]

send me a seed made with any secret seed

the numbers that make it up

[versed fern]

1.4.5: ||New Terraria Boss lol||

[dull heart]

not the special seeds, the secret seeds

i just need to see the seed format

[stone fiber]

A rare realm indeed
Achievement unlocked "no seriously how did we get here"

[primal badge]

like copy it from the world select?

[dull heart]

yes

[primal badge]

2.4.1.0.how did i get here|mole people|370318129

[dull heart]

perfect thanks

[covert briar]

what is best evil biome for 1.4.5?

[primal badge]

two seeds but should work

[primal badge]

It's still whichever you prefer

But with special seed changes

Both evils is easier than ever to pick

and what I'd take personally

[solemn crest]

I’m gonna guess calamity doesn’t work with the new update yet?

[stark quail]

it wont for a while

[split ginkgo]

Wait for SSO

[solemn crest]

Yeah that’s what I figured

[distant raft]

tmod hasnt updated for february yet

1.4.5 will likely come somewhere around august

[bright crane]

have any new whips been added aside from ones we've already seen? is there new best whip?

[vestal osprey]

Im pretty sure the moonlord whip is the best

[solemn crest]

Probably stardust or moon lord whip tbh

[bright crane]

ml tentacle feels underwhelming for best whip ngl

like all the stuff u get is rainbow shining stuff and here u get a body part </3

[vestal osprey]

A body part of a celestial cosmic being

In the context of calamity lore, a body part of the being that singlehandedly started the fall of dragons

[summer pendant]

||so with the marble and granite slimes in skyblock can we make artifical biomes from them?||

[stark quail]

i assume so

[covert briar]

is familiar set still post skeletron?

[potent scroll]

they buffed cactus armor set daamge? its deal like 40-50

[terse dew]

Don't need spoiler tags in this channel

[vestal osprey]

Cactus still peak as always

[hollow harness]

damn they giving whips for free

[woeful yarrow]

Help

[potent scroll]

the pre hardmode wing cant be found in chest anymore right?

on sky islands

[woeful yarrow]

I'm fkn suffering

How to stop corruption biome enemies from spawning

[azure wren]

thats the neat part you don't

[pale silo]

gotta love how much people are malding in maincord ab whip stacking being yeeted

"it was a fun mechanic"

they keep saying

[pale silo]

break the blocks

or place ash over it

cause theres "corrupt" blocks on the sides of the island

same for above you

[azure wren]

why tf was it yeeted

[pale silo]

its ur main food source for why its there

[pale silo]

its busted as fuck

[stark quail]

WHAT THE HELL

[azure wren]

yeah, and it was hard to pull off

[pale silo]

no not really

[still bluff]

wasn't whipstacking always technically unintended, people just loved abusing it anyway

[azure wren]

you pull it off you deserve toi be broken as fuck

[fleet agate]

not really lol

[amber furnace]

exactly

[pale silo]

its hard to pull off on console or mobile

not on pc

and anyways people are just gonna mod it back in

[azure wren]

and the hoik was unintended behavior

[pale silo]

so eh

[pale silo]

yeah but it was widely enjoyed

whip stacking wasnt

many disliked it

a majority disliked it

and it screws balance in almost everything

hoiks dont really

[still bluff]

whip stacking was only used to take vanilla's fragile balance and make it worse
hoiks were actually used for interesting stuff

[vestal osprey]

Whip stacking messed with modded balancing

Like calamity hasn't even touched whips for that exact reason

[still bluff]

whip stacking didn't really have anything to do with it

[pale silo]

lack of updates did

[warped oak]

Hoiks were also officially given feature status

[pale silo]

chances are they wouldve done something properly

[hollow harness]

Whips messed calamity balance because of the pre-existing way of balancing summoner in calamity

[still bluff]

the whole class is kinda a mess, cal made it viable without whips then vanilla added them and cal hasn't fixed it yet

[grave geyser]

cal summoner is a combination of a lot of things

[still bluff]

also they didn't work properly in tmod for a while which didn't help

[grave geyser]

it was already broken going into 2.0 so whips only made that problem worse

[pale silo]

so transmutation should also be considered a feature? (is what ima say to anyone unironically arguing this point)

[grave geyser]

you need to fix summoners innitial problems before you can even think about balancing whips

[hollow harness]

you had strong minions and the entire problem of having many minion slots

[warped oak]

I mean, the developers officially said "Hoiks are now considered a feature and we will keep them in the game + fix them if we remove them by accident"

They're a pretty special case

[pale silo]

yeah

[misty wren]

yeah which is why they cant be used as an argument for anything

[grave geyser]

oh yeah also rip transmutation

had a good run

[warped oak]

also

chat

is it just me or

||https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?attachments/rc-car-gif.527139/||

[lyric trellis]

Spikecrag ❤️

[warped oak]

is this totally ||a wulfrum car||

like it looks intentional

[lyric trellis]

That’s just a silver car

[raw vector]

not green enough

[lyric trellis]

With a tiny strip of green

[misty wren]

shoutout to drunk celebmk10 seed

||oops all shimmer||

[vestal osprey]

What even is shimmer

[manic rivet]

Liquid that can decraft things and give you new things from old things

[manic rivet]

Try throwing a life crystal (You might get something cool)

[vestal osprey]

Are there any new transformations in this update

[pale silo]

god i thought this disc was toxic at times, main cord is far worse

[potent scroll]

jungle on the left side is feels so strange

[pale silo]

if you mean like turning into a bat or smth, yes

[boreal pewter]

Us devs are enjoying the update
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406493898341613568/1465810857945596088/Terraria_2026-01-27_12-47-26_Trim.mp4

[pale silo]

spawn a boss while its thundering btw

youll see their health bar delete

[hollow harness]

Manslaughter

[pale silo]

literally

even on leg

[primal badge]

Quadruple kill

[deft lily]

lol

[vestal osprey]

Your playing the update and not working on calamity 24/7 😡

[winter kiln]

they've added set bonuses to every armor set that previously didn't have one? interesting

[stark quail]

omfgh i finally got a furnace

[winter kiln]

even if some of them just give additional defense i still find this to be an interesting change

[primal badge]

I have a problem where I want to fish but I have no idea how to get proper bait fklsdjklodsfjkl

[winter kiln]

i'm curious about the skyblock seed but i'm gonna do a normal playthrough of the update first

[potent scroll]

cant wait to burn him in the lava over and over and over

[stark quail]

im too lazy to do a normal playthrough

[manic rivet]

I can't wait for the 1.4.5 update to get ported to Tmod

[stark quail]

so im going to do an excruciatingly painful one instead

[potent scroll]

5-6 month, we have time to plently of time until that

[winter kiln]

since it's a big update it's probably gonna at least be a few months

[manic rivet]

Once that happens, first thing Imma do is a infernum drunk + celebration playthrough

[uncut gazelle]

Really?

That's a genuine question, by the way

[primal badge]

It caused pretty wacky balancing issues, even in vanilla

[spark kiln]

the hoik argument is very dumb

[hollow harness]

tbf It was decent honestly

[spark kiln]

just because one unintended mechanic got kept doesn’t mean they all should

[hollow harness]

now I think without whipstacking but new reforges and stuff its like more fleshed out

[primal badge]

hoiks are admittedly a very funny unintended mechanic

[vestal osprey]

Do we have a lost of all the new summoner forged

Forges

[primal badge]

how arranging platforms and slopes allows you to break physics

[hollow harness]

I know there's the Fabled reforge

[pale silo]

Yeah. It was just absurdly unbalanced, locked you to pc to do it effectively, and was just generally a really toxic side of vanilla

[hollow harness]

The other one that gives +25 Armor Penetration to the minion

[pale silo]

which I just experienced first hand

And that's not taking into account modded ramifications

Which we've seen in almost any major content mod, summoner is absurdly broken with whip stacking, or they tried to remove it and made summoner dogshite

[spark kiln]

when the summoning class is more about the melee weapons than the summoning weapons

[pale silo]

Yeah

[spark belfry]

Forgot how chill vanilla was, it's been months

[hollow harness]

vanilla building is so goated

I need to get the new building sets

[uncut gazelle]

Fair enough. Guess I should accept that whip stacking is no longer a thing instead of trying to defend it. Thanks for the answer!

[spark belfry]

Oh neat there's an NPC happiness bar!

Unless that was there before and I never paid attention

[hollow harness]

nope

new addition

[spark belfry]

loving it

[hollow harness]

lower % means more happiness I think

[uncut gazelle]

Neat

[winter kiln]

Am I crazy or do fallen stars fall a lot more often in 1.4.5?

[uncut gazelle]

That's the price decrease, I think

[primal badge]

yeah

[spark belfry]

Yeah I feel like they do

[pale silo]

And that's already a far more positive response then what I got in maincord!

[hollow harness]

also talking about NPCs reminds me that now party girl requires 20 NPCs to start appearing

[spark belfry]

I got like 13 in the first night

[hollow harness]

reminder that pets counts as NPCs

[buoyant pulsar]

oh yeah. time to play ass and kick updates. and im all out of ass.

[pale silo]

They verbatim told me I was loose in the head for thinking any of that

[spark belfry]

Never understood why whip stacking was a thing in the first place, just causes unnecessary balancing problems with new additions

[primal badge]

Average experience there

[hollow harness]

I once got like 100 fallen stars just one night

[pale silo]

It was an unintended feature at first

And they just never bothered to remove it till now

[still bluff]

it was unintended, people who like speedkilling loved it, they finally actually got rid of it (thank god)

[pale silo]

Yeah

[spark belfry]

Imagine if whip stacking still existed with blade staff + the reforge that gives 25+ armor piercing 😭

[still bluff]

50000 dps

[spark belfry]

exactly

like

[native thistle]

wait the devs actually did remove stacking ????

[pale silo]

Oh yeah blade staff got it's stats back finally

[hollow harness]

that's why they removed it,

[pale silo]

Blade staff was nerfed to the ground cause of whip stacking

[uncut gazelle]

Doubt it'll be that effective for Blade Staff specifically

[hollow harness]

plus, blade staff got its 25% tag penalty removed

[pale silo]

Now it's back to being usable

[pale silo]

No it genuinely was before the 25% tag damage

[uncut gazelle]

But making any minion into a Blade Staff........

[pale silo]

It was better than terraprisma

[grave geyser]

me when I lie

[pale silo]

That ain't a lie

In some cases it was

[spark belfry]

Yeppers

[uncut gazelle]

No, I've meant the extra armor penetration wouldn't be useful specifically for Blade Staff, since it already has 25 (iirc) AP

[pale silo]

Oh yeah it'd be good on prime?

Maybe

That's it

Maybe golem too

[hollow harness]

oh right Blade Staff alredy ignores defense

[pale silo]

Twins iirc has semi low defence

[dull heart]

dual dungeons seed (seed still unknown, someone modded to forcegen it)

[still bluff]

this is like firecracker being the best option for yharon on one patch of cal
it sounds stupid but kinda actually works

[spark belfry]

HOLY

[grave geyser]

I would love to see a single situation where prisma was worse even with hyperoptimized stacking

[pale silo]

Gimme it!

[still bluff]

god

[dusk bronze]

😭

[pale silo]

I'm waiting on it to be found before I start a proper world

[dull heart]

i don't know it ye

[modern grove]

The two towers

[hollow harness]

sandwiched biomes

[dull heart]

here is every secret seed at once forced in modding

[still bluff]

now that's beautiful

[pale silo]

That looks beautiful

[spark belfry]

Dear god..

[lyric trellis]

What the hell

[dusk bronze]

peak.

[pale silo]

Gimmie

Is that with zenith?

[dull heart]

dunno

i think its just secret

[pale silo]

Houses are centred

[dull heart]

not specials

[pale silo]

So no

[primal badge]

TERRARIA 2

[pale silo]

I wonder how sb and all that works

[still bluff]

this is terraria

[stark quail]

wtf is thisd

[spark belfry]

Someone get this seed to Waffletime

[dull heart]

we haven't yet cracked em all

sadly

[stark quail]

dude he's live rn someone needds to send it to him

[dull heart]

11 seeds to go

[pale silo]

Soon™

I doubt you'd remember but I'd love to be pinged when dungeon is found

Last seed in interested in for a proper playthrough

[native thistle]

anyone got the patchnotes link?

[pale silo]

And then id do the silly seed combos too ofc

[hollow harness]

its on the forums page

[primal badge]

This genuinely looks very fun though

[buoyant pulsar]

welcome to... my placid island of ignoranc... (i died instantaneously)

[still sorrel]

Hi chat, will post moonlord bosses be buffed in master death to make them as hard as hardmode bosses?

[dull heart]

technically the idea of "master death" is just dying

[primal badge]

There is one thing I am wondering about

[dull heart]

it's just "death" now

and it's master exclusive

see the pin about it

[still sorrel]

Ahh

[primal badge]

how do mods with worldgen changes even handle some of these weirder seeds

[still sorrel]

But anyway, will the bosses be buffed?

[spark belfry]

Aw man no more trophies in death mode..

[dull heart]

?

[still sorrel]

Post moonlord ones specifically

[pale silo]

No the trophies was ex rev too

[dull heart]

in general it's all being rebalanced

[still sorrel]

They are way to easy compared to hardmode bosses

[pale silo]

Alongside master

[dull heart]

death is also like...

tied to master i just said

[spark belfry]

Oh I'm just crazy then whoops

[still sorrel]

Ahh, so hardmode bosses will get nerfed?

[pale silo]

It's cause vanilla bosses was the main ones with master ai

[dull heart]

some already have been

like prime

[pale silo]

Can't wait for brain

And cal clone

[still sorrel]

I don't remember skeletron prime in its prime... But twins are in their prime right now

[dull heart]

the hardest boss in 2.1 calamity

will be malice dog in ftw

[lyric trellis]

Bosses will be adjusted when necessary and strive to actually be good (and more difficult on death but not unfair)

[pale silo]

And it'll be skill hard right?

[dull heart]

yes

[still sorrel]

Malice? Is it legendary mode exclusive??

[pale silo]

Wait does this mean ftw bosses are also more fair?

Hell yeah

No cultist bs

[dull heart]

yes (check the pin)

[dull heart]

no

[pale silo]

Awhhh

I'll still prob do a run at some point after brainstorm

[dull heart]

malice gfb permafrost is second hardest boss

[pale silo]

Oh right that reminds me, is perma still on ftw wiki page?

[grave geyser]

cultist no longer fucking stupid 🙏

[pale silo]

Sadly no he is still stupid

[uncut gazelle]

...that's concerning

[grave geyser]

I mean cultist is different so hopefully slightly less stupid

[pale silo]

Yeah

Shall see

[grave geyser]

bc if 2.1 malice dog is harder than current ftw cultist there is a problem

[pale silo]

If it's actual skill difficulty I'm fine

Current cult is....

Not skill.

[grave geyser]

(namely the problem being cultist is far past the point of difficulty where skill is a major factor)

[still bluff]

malice DoG is just really hard, you need kinda crazy reaction time or good predictions on when to ram

[pale silo]

So the good type

I'm relatively good in that skill set so shall have to see!

[dull heart]

its like infernum dog

dialed up to 27

[tropic jolt]

27

[pale silo]

Dialed up to 22

[tropic jolt]

infernum dog haters are sobbing

[primal badge]

3³

[still bluff]

maybe even dialed up to 25

[pale silo]

One of my friends reactions to this

[primal badge]

I hope it's fast but not like "You have only 3 frames to input your dash or else you explode" level of fast

[pale silo]

You'll still explode

But I'd guess is more like 10 frames

A reactable amount of time

Tho id be fine with 7-8 frames

[arctic cliff]

it does feel like a tumor, ngl

[pale silo]

That is what I said to em

[grim pecan]

malice is not meant to be a normal difficulty option. please understand you are on the same seed where prime drops block destroying bombs. i need people to promise me that malice is not the only difficulty mode that will be talked about because "hardest is the only way to experience things"

[pale silo]

DW I'll start with md

[grim pecan]

[grave geyser]

it will be talked about the same amount as it was previously

[pale silo]

But yeah ik ftw is more on the joke end of difficulty...don't know how many others take it that way tho

[still bluff]

malice can be stupid and annoying and that is just how it is

[pale silo]

Yeah

[grave geyser]

which is to say
people will bring it up occasionally

[pale silo]

It'll be that quirky difficulty that's "harder" in most aspects

[dull heart]

hi @pale silo dual dungeons seed is just dual dungeons but it doens't work on pc for some reason

so the pc seed is unknown

[grave geyser]

erm prime doesnt destroy blocks in cal difficulties 🤓

[pale silo]

This is so sad....

[dull heart]

mobile seed is known

[primal badge]

why are the seeds different on different platforms

[still bluff]

wack

[grim pecan]

that might be something to revert honestly

[pale silo]

I'm checking if maybe they misspelled it or smth

[grim pecan]

the fewer changes we make to base ftw the less people will think of it as an intended difficulty

[grave geyser]

its not deliberate

its just bc the rockets are not bombs

[pale silo]

Just shadow change it :3

[grave geyser]

so they dont blow shit up

[still bluff]

oh true lmao

[dusk bronze]

make them mini nuke 2s

[grim pecan]

i see now, got it

[pale silo]

Too small

[still bluff]

mini nuke 4

[pale silo]

Make a bigger one just for this

Also make it destroy obby and hm ore

For funs

Yknow

[dusk bronze]

sprime shooting holy hand grenades directly at your face

[pale silo]

Yus

[lapis oak]

my awesome hellevator

500 dynamites

[pale silo]

Dynamite my beloved

Honestly they're underrated for how strong they are for making basic farms too

[lapis oak]

first time I did this it's actually somewhat enjoyable

[pale silo]

Takes like 10-15 mins to clean out an area for a farm

[vast lark]

is new terraria update worth a new playthrough

[blazing totem]

what even are all of the new world seeds?

[pale silo]

Yes

[blazing totem]

yes

[dusk bronze]

there's dozens upon dozens

[vast lark]

alr

[primal badge]

my awesome """hellevator"""

like a thousand rope

[spark belfry]

With cobwhip only requiring 30 cobwebs and 10 wood, this is probably the first whip you'll get early game correct?

[primal badge]

can you even call it a hellevator if

[blazing totem]

they really had a field day with this one huh

[primal badge]

the whole world is a hellevator

[spark belfry]

Oh dear god

[pale silo]

its already started.

[spark belfry]

[blazing totem]

propaganda

[dusk bronze]

☹️

[pale silo]

the end is coming

[spark belfry]

Yeah it's so over

[blazing totem]

grainstorm is coming

[pale silo]

i am scared to touch the workshop

[azure wren]

kaizo seed update:

[pale silo]

i wonder who caused this to become a thing

[azure wren]

I got the chain knife

[still bluff]

holy shit

[amber egret]

i Could use this if i dont like one Specifically

but other than the goblin they're all pretty good

[small jungle]

what mods can we use w the update

[azure wren]

workshop mods gonna need to add a brand new tag 😭

[dusk bronze]

none

[pale silo]

here you go

[spark belfry]

Nah goblin is perfect because no one likes em anyway

[pale silo]

a replacement

[small jungle]

is there an eta for calamity

[amber egret]

this may be Worse

[pale silo]

4-5 months

[azure wren]

[small jungle]

ow

[spark belfry]

[dusk bronze]

nothing will be ported for several months

why did everyone forget that 😭

i swear it wasn't like this with 1.4.4

[still bluff]

tmod for 1.4.5 isn't even close to existing yet

just like

wait

[azure wren]

we want our kaizo calamity

[small jungle]

cuz im a passive players i just do playthroughs

[grim pecan]

tmodloader will not be updated for several months, and so calamity will not port for several months

[small jungle]

idek update was happening till a week before

[amber egret]

I Need To Beat Calamity With Every Single Seed Possible.

[spark belfry]

waiting initiated

[potent scroll]

this almost looks like moded

[small jungle]

rip

[spark belfry]

Oh I need to go find my dungeon rq

[amber egret]

i did see someone make a good point of the new dungeon looking like it was made by players and not really a base structure

[dusk bronze]

~~ because it was ~~

[main falcon]

8 like the alchemy flask buff

[stiff light]

wait accessories can stack

[amber egret]

well yeah

[stiff light]

whattt

[amber egret]

but like

how do i phrase this

[pale silo]

tbf there isnt really any other structures that are built to be imposing

only jungle temple ig?

[spark belfry]

it doesn't look like a vanilla terraria structure?

[pale silo]

but that is likely to change too

[amber egret]

yeah

[main falcon]

It's the same idea as the alchemy table but executed diferentl6

It saves you potion materials by making potions last longer

[stark quail]

skyblock seed is killing me

[amber egret]

i do like the jungle temple getting moss and vines and shit though

[spark belfry]

I would agree, but also it just looks sick so I can't complain

[pale silo]

its fine

[stark quail]

all ive been doing is grinding slime drops idk where to go from here

[spark belfry]

YES

[pale silo]

the hard part is getting water

[amber egret]

looks Better

[pale silo]

which is get iron

for buckets

and throw em out when its raining

[stark quail]

i have several buckets ya

[spark belfry]

The jungle temple looks like a jungle. Temple.

[amber egret]

oh what you can do that

[stray matrix]

i got a musket :)

[pale silo]

grind for a bed then wait for it to rain

[amber egret]

wait does shimmer exist

[civic frost]

isnt the new dungeon design supposed to reference dead cells in some way? idk never played that game lo

[stray matrix]

also i died to the eoc.

[pale silo]

post ml it seems

[stark quail]

how am i supposed to get silk

[pale silo]

yeah

[pale silo]

cobweb slimes

[civic frost]

underground?

[stark quail]

oh

havent seen those yet

[pale silo]

in the caverns

[civic frost]

figured

[stray matrix]

i could not believe my eyes when i saw the new dungeon.

[pale silo]

also you can generate cobweb yourself by placing stone

[stray matrix]

it feels fake.

[pale silo]

just really damn slow

[spark belfry]

Oh I didn't think about that

[primal badge]

alternatively use journey mode

which tbf

[amber egret]

skyblock feels like Hypixel Skyblock moreso than like Minecraft Skyblock

[pale silo]

hypixel sb is NOT sb

[primal badge]

feels pretty good with skyblock seed

[deft lily]

how is the update so far

[pale silo]

factually

[amber egret]

do i make sense

[pale silo]

you are on your island for a minute

and then do the mmo shite

[amber egret]

i specifically mean Stranded

[civic frost]

summoner finally feels complete

[pale silo]

ironman stranded

if so yes

[hollow harness]

pretty good

[amber egret]

where it like makes up so many Things just to have it work

[stray matrix]

what makes it feel complete?

[dull heart]

not known yet

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Secret_world_seeds

[civic frost]

although im not sure about the armor, has anyone have any thoughts about the summoner armor in the new update

[deft lily]

good for summoner players i guess

[amber egret]

like "Yeah you can get This from This Doohickey solely so you don't have to do All That.*

[civic frost]

progression

[blazing totem]

fair

[pale silo]

far more items for summoner with whip stacking being yeeted

[civic frost]

summoner can finally feel playable at all stages of the game

and has more content too

[stray matrix]

whats new in summonerland?

[civic frost]

its more fleshed out

[spark belfry]

The new changes to the crafting menu's, the lighting of the game and general improvements just make it feel fleshed out imo.

[pale silo]

too many

[azure wren]

how'd you get this tho

[hollow harness]

summoner exclusive reforges as well

[pale silo]

doze sent a list of only the whips ages ago

[amber egret]

im curious

can i still play tmodloader

[pale silo]

and theres like 20 new whips or smth

[amber egret]

or will it just Not Work

[pale silo]

yeah

[civic frost]

pretty sure they removed whipstacking because of the new reforges lo

[hollow harness]

chlorophyte got a summoner headset I think

[pale silo]

tmod creates a copy of vanilla

[hollow harness]

yea they did

[amber egret]

okay Cool

[pale silo]

doesnt use ur exact version

[civic frost]

only 1.4.9

[spark belfry]

Thank god they made it so you can craft stuff by just being near the chests, I actually like having chests in my builds from time to time

[amber egret]

Awesomesauce

[civic frost]

1,4.4.9

[hollow harness]

like whipstacking with reforges would have been so disastrous

[spark belfry]

No more magic storage

[pale silo]

yeah its a setting next to the crafting guide thing

[civic frost]

exactly

this is better for calamity devs who hated whips no?

[pale silo]

the only issue i have with the update rn is the lag spikes when guide/crafting loads up

[pale silo]

most modders hated it tbh

[spark belfry]

Maybe the workshop won't be so bad afterall

[civic frost]

its a really cool concept for summoner idk how people could hate it xd

[pale silo]

its cause they cant speedkill anymore (even tho they can)

[spark belfry]

I'm sure modders hated the balancing behind whip stacking

that's the main thing

[still bluff]

it's been a very long time since caldev's had any "hating whips"

whip stacking? definitely

[pale silo]

yeah whips are completely fine as a concept

[spark belfry]

ofc

[civic frost]

what. didnt whips make it so summoners literally had more damage

[hollow harness]

mechanically it was kinda fine because at least there was some weapon swapping but balance wise it was a bit fucked

[stark quail]

does anyone know how you're supposed to get evil altars on skyblock lol

[still bluff]

but whips themselves are a part of the class and do (usually) help it

[pale silo]

but it shouldnt be the main focus for summoners

you arent melee afterall

fuckin melee speed builds

[civic frost]

well, yeah, moreso the whip stacking people disliked

[pale silo]

that was quite the fun time

[stray matrix]

obsidion outlaw armor moment

[pale silo]

yeah

[civic frost]

this was the argument yeah, it seemed more "melee"

[pale silo]

i remember that pre nerf

literally the best armour in the game

unironically

pre boss to post ml

(was before it was evil locked)

[civic frost]

new palworld summon actually gave summoner more weapon variety tho

flamethrower ahh

[hollow harness]

[terse dew]

Wrong, merkalto is still here

😊

[still bluff]

for now

[terse dew]

😰

[pale silo]

threats are being thrown!

[hushed hazel]

merkalto hates whips, huh? #evil

[pale silo]

this is a scary time

[spark belfry]

It's so cool..

[terse dew]

do you realize how silly this mindset is

[pale silo]

tbf everything is silly

[hollow harness]

It's not that deep!

[spark belfry]

[lapis oak]

do you realize how funny it would be if I assassinate Merk right now

[pale silo]

It'd be peak comedy

[spark belfry]

Uh..

[grim pecan]

has anyone tried the new yoyo bag

[pale silo]

Even funnier if it failed

[pale silo]

No but it seems busted

From what I saw of the comp changes

[buoyant pulsar]

welcome to the shoe

[vestal osprey]

What does the new yoyo bag do?

[spark belfry]

The shoe looks like a horror house

[grim pecan]

lovely.

[azure wren]

anyone got a map of all special and secret seeds applied

[pale silo]

50% extra yo-yo lifetime, 100% extra projectile speed, some extra damage on duplicate yoyo

Smth else I think

Forgor

[buoyant pulsar]

no its a yin and yang

[hollow harness]

doesn't it drop your yoyo

[buoyant pulsar]

the yin is good building, the yang is shjeboxes

[pale silo]

It throws a second one if that's what you mean

[buoyant pulsar]

thats wju it looks like that

does anyone know the vampire seed

[stray matrix]

so whats summoners new earlygame?

[pale silo]

Yup

[stray matrix]

does it have a new earlygame?

[pale silo]

Slime whip or cobweb whip

[civic frost]

cobwhip

[hollow harness]

3 new whips accessible early-game

[civic frost]

slime whip requires the king slime crafting item

[hollow harness]

Cobwhip, Slime Whip, demonite/crimtane ore whip

[pale silo]

"what a horrible night to have a curse"

[pale silo]

I'm thinking gfb sb

[hollow harness]

(the last one ONLY requires 12 respective evil ore bars)

[buoyant pulsar]

do you know the ones with the projectile rain

[pale silo]

Nope