My sleep schedule is so messed up that if I go to bed at a reasonable time I wake up a bazillion times and therefore don't get enough sleep
#calamity-update-talk
limber wren
I prefer to go to sleep at 4:00am beeing tired rather than 10:00pm and waking up every 30min
limber wren
Night wonderful people of this channel
Night night
I'm also gonna go sleep, hyped by 1.4.5, byeee
dusty tinsel
I go to bed at like 11pm and then wake up 7 hours later so 🤷 my sleep is never good even with having an okay amount of sleep
wise bolt
you sleep ?
quaint cloak
I go to bed at like 11pm and then wake up 7 hours later so 🤷 my sleep is never ...
WAİT WHAT?
YOU GET MORE THAN 4 HOURS OF SLEEP?
strong isle
Why should we enforce this?
still bluff
Why should we enforce this?
we do want whips to be useful (or so i thought)
lapis oak
idk removing summoner penalty will just sound like bad things in my head
hard hearth
correct
lapis oak
because then why would you ever use whips they're simply just inferior than a gun
build summoner > summoner options are worse than idk a random gun
lapis oak
remove damage type
hard hearth
we do want whips to be useful (or so i thought)
they can still be useful
still bluff
if you want to kill bosses slower while having to be closer to the boss
gloomy grove
id assume whips are gonna be in a good spot in 1.4.5
hard hearth
like when back in the day using golden shower in addition to your weapon class of choice was useful
lapis oak
unless you make whips tag last for 30 seconds lol
hard hearth
yea exactly
lapis oak
whips become debuff weapons in a way
still bluff
i'm torn between please never cook again and this is genuinely better than the current implmentation 
lapis oak
then they'll become support weapon
desert garnet
lapis oak
and then we pull out a gun again while whip tag is in effect xdddd
still bluff
no harder than whips are atm lol
hard hearth
numbers are always easy to tweak
the functionality is realistically the hardest part to balance
hard hearth
then they'll become support weapon
thats not an inherently bad thing
still bluff
yea, for whips it's a combination of making them useful without them being overcentralising
hard hearth
still bluff
~~preferably without entirely abandoning vanilla's plans but 🤷♂️ ~~
hard hearth
in my humble opinion whips shouldnt be outshining summons in the first place
still bluff
that's why kalei and snapthron are getting thrown through numerous windows
(it's mostly those two tbh and morning star, firecracker's already been nerfed and the others aren't quite as silly)
lapis oak
I think for whips to be support type weapons and summons be the main focus of the class they must be strong on their own(?)
lapis oak
if the summoner penalty is removed then other classes can just use summon weapons and make everything noticeably easier for seemingly no efforts
because summons are strong
hard hearth
because summons are strong
goku walks into the room
tribal isle
because then why would you ever use whips they're simply just inferior than a gu...
For fun
modern horizon
Realg
high scaffold
Make summoner penalty 100%
strong isle
we do want whips to be useful (or so i thought)
? I don't see how removing the summoner penalty makes whips useless
still bluff
? I don't see how removing the summoner penalty makes whips useless
if summoner penalty doesn't exist, then whips are simply always outclassed by another class's weapon
it's already the case in cal with the 25% penalty, really strong summons, and extremely powerful morning star
halcyon seal
Removing summoner penalty seems like A Bad Idea
Like summoner is already the best choice for multiclassing with the penalty
Just by its very nature
still bluff
Not without significant changes to how summoner is balanced and the design of whips/supporting summons
It's like defence damage
Something we absolutely want to minimize as much as we can, but can't really just remove
stuck kite
clearly we need global iframes back for summoner to screw over any form of multiclassing or selfclassing or any form of classing
still bluff
True??
Maybe there's a reason vanilla summons had global iframes after all...
It is technically a solution just saying
modern horizon
if summoner penalty doesn't exist, then whips are simply always outclassed by an...
Isnt that wut summon tag is for
lapis oak
summon tag is tied to whips
still bluff
It's not strong enough when giving about 25% extra dps from % tag and crit, on top of the whip's raw damage
modern horizon
I mean youre toying with the numbers anyways
still bluff
It would be worse without tag, yea
But it's still pretty bad
modern horizon
I mean youre toying with the numbers anyways
Toy with em til it works in a way that feels rewarding not punishing
Thst beinh said
strong isle
People will use whips regardless of how powerful multiclassing is
How powerful would whip + tag damage contribution and synergy between whip and minion gear woulf we even need to make multiclassing balanced?
still bluff
Kalei roughly halves killtimes, I'd say that would do it
modern horizon
People will use whips regardless of how powerful multiclassing is
How powerful w...
Yea cos classlocking is self imposed
Multiclassing is p strong in vanilla still, whip tag just closes the gap in a way that feels fun and interesting and not as a "but thou must!!"
still bluff
You get to probably like doubled dps from full class gear (like 50% damage and 30% crit with intermittent plague reaper blind too), take all that away and you've got ~half your dps in a random ranger weapon
So a whip would have to be contributing about half the dps to make multiclassing not worth it
*very rough maths not exact in any way
strong isle
Isn't intended whip + tag contribution going to be around 30-50, taking into account different suggestions?
strong isle
People will use whips regardless of how powerful multiclassing is
How powerful w...
Especially in a community as obsessed with classlocking as Calamity's (from what I observe)
modern horizon
Thst beinh said
Summon nerf and whip tag are two sides of the same coin
Summon nerf punishes using weapons that aren't summoner alongside summoner weapons, or puts a hefty price tag on it at the v least in damage output, therefore discouraging multiclassing by toying witj your damage output
Whips and tag damage rewards using active summoner weapons alongside your summons with damage and specific synergies that multiclassing can't always offer for you, therefore discouraging multiclassing by toying witj your damage output and introducing an opportunity cost mechanic to it
People looooovvveeee classlockinh
The crowds yearn to classlock
In cal
still bluff
Isn't intended whip + tag contribution going to be around 30-50, taking into acc...
We were aiming for around 30%
50% would be the limit for something preboss trying to carry minions struggling to hit lol
vanila snapthorn
modern horizon
Especially in a community as obsessed with classlocking as Calamity's (from what...
Maybe the potency of set bonuses and the way stealth is given to players for rogue specifically makes classlocking feel encouraged
still bluff
The crowds yearn to classlock
Oh yea people will use whips instead of multiclassing no matter what lol
strong isle
Well, let's see if that turns out significant, I suppose
still bluff
It should probably at least not be much worse tho
lapis oak
still self imposed class locking shouldn't be the reason for you know, making multiclass not balanced
modern horizon
Trueline
still bluff
I remember doing infernum nohits and using aquashard shotgun with the overhead minions lol
lapis oak
that's just what Terraria players do, they like to RP 1 class at a time
strong isle
There's also synergy between minion and whip gear, they are complementary while multiclass gear are rare "crossovers" (sometimes literally)
modern horizon
Maybe the potency of set bonuses and the way stealth is given to players for rog...
Plus crafting recipes being a bit committal for like accessories and armor sets and such and ppl maybe feeling a bitbof sunken cost fallacy in wanting to use the melee focused armor set witj just melee cos tjey went out of their way to make it anyways
modern horizon
that's just what Terraria players do, they like to RP 1 class at a time
and that
still bluff
The multiclass gear makes it go from a little stronger to the best dps option till you get kalei iirc 
lapis oak
me when I don't handicap myself to 1 class and find out I can make game noticeably easier with almost 0 efforts (just summon some shit duh)
still bluff
The problem I have for summoner penalty is exactly where to put it tbh
50% cripples it, but 25% isn't enough atm
It's just hard to know where it'll fall once we've actually adjusted summoner
strong isle
To be fair, it's hard to prevent that from happening when you have 1 primarily passive class among 3 (4 in Cal) active ones
still bluff
Like I said before
We should go back to summoner being a mage subclass things were better then
strong isle
I still disagree with the summoner penalty remaining a thing, it's not something we need to enforce
lapis oak
Like I said before
We should go back to summoner being a mage subclass things we...
remove class damage type so before will RP based on the weapon sprites
(Terra Blade finally mage coded)
still bluff
It's the same as defence damage
We shouldnt have to change it because it should be terraria's problem to nerf multiclass, but changing it is better balanced than without changing it, so it sticks around
still bluff
remove class damage type so before will RP based on the weapon sprites
True
sso will now remove damage
modern horizon
To be fair, it's hard to prevent that from happening when you have 1 primarily p...
Vanilla just gave the class more viable options for playing proactively
And I thimk its fun
still bluff
You no longer have to attack the boss
Just wait 3 minutes for it to die of natural causes
Now you can use whatever weapon you want
modern horizon
Summoner is my go to when playing vanilla
still bluff
(Thiis is RDR again)
lapis oak
a visionary
strong isle
It's the same as defence damage
We shouldnt have to change it because it should ...
Fair enough, as long as it is proportionate
gray trench
(Thiis is RDR again)
RDR PEAK
solar hare
lgl in calmain what is this reality
strong isle
This isn't me going "it should be vanilla's issue" btw, this is me going "is this something that requires tight regulation in the first place"
Thought I should clarify
still bluff
I'd say this is something that's actually way less intrusive than defence damage, considering basically every player has to deal with that vs a small minority running into this
high scaffold
So, yall think BS is in february and no january?
hasty tangle
did anyone actually think it would come out this month 
still bluff
Brainstorm never sorry
hasty tangle
its a given that whenever a release window is announced for any game, it will always be towards the end of that window
(assuming its not delayed)
still bluff
But yea uhhh
It's still soon™
fierce nebula
1.4.5 is soon so play that
high scaffold
Say BS is february? No. Say BS is january-february? Yes
still bluff
Exactly
Play 1.4.5 then go back to 1.4.4 till tmod ports
fierce nebula
Crazy that there’s 2 massive updates coming in similar windows
abstract hazel
Exactly
Play 1.4.5 then go back to 1.4.4 till tmod ports
I'm still pretty new, does Tmodloader update later than the base game?
high scaffold
Yes
abstract hazel
good to know!
fierce nebula
I'm still pretty new, does Tmodloader update later than the base game?
Then the mods themselves need to update
So it’ll take time
gloomy grove
give it like 4-5 months
high scaffold
Tmod update can sometimes take years
gloomy grove
sometimes?
fierce nebula
I doubt it would take that long
gloomy grove
afaik the only update that took awhile was for 1.4 specifically
hasty tangle
yeah, theres no way it will take that long
high scaffold
In 1.5 may take years again
hasty tangle
1.4 was a special case cuz pretty much everything was thrown out and rewritten
lapis oak
1.4 was something
gloomy grove
In 1.5 may take years again
probably not
fierce nebula
In 1.5 may take years again
I don’t think 1.5 is ever going to be a thing bud
hasty tangle
I don’t think 1.5 is ever going to be a thing bud
abstract hazel
give it like 4-5 months
I'm fine with it taking ages, I want to finish my current calamity playthrough before I have to worry about an update to the base game just in case it complicates things and messes up my mods or something
high scaffold
I don’t think 1.5 is ever going to be a thing bud
1.5 wont, 2.0 be
fierce nebula
stuck kite
at least is very assuring
fierce nebula
Base terraria doesn’t need more content
high scaffold
It needs polish
high scaffold
I think they are not gonna stop until the game is all shining and has no flaws
hasty tangle
and then theyll keep going
high scaffold
Terraria 2
hasty tangle
although a couple of terraria's flaws are pretty deep rooted
and require a lot of work to truly fix
lapis oak
if every melee weapons isn't like Terra Blade updates they're not stopping
pearl sentinel
Red making relogic work on terraria from the retirement homes because he had a new idea for a seed that makes you shit all over the room in real life
hasty tangle
peptobismol seed
pearl sentinel
If terraria doesn't have upcoming updates forever then what is chippygaming supposed to make videos about
modern horizon
lgl in calmain what is this reality
Im here til im done with my multiplayer playthrough with my besty my bad @w@;
fierce nebula
If terraria doesn't have upcoming updates forever then what is chippygaming supp...
Hytale
modern horizon
Then ill be off again
pearl sentinel
This user said hytale
hasty tangle
byeah never trust the terraria devs if they ever call smth the final update
quaint cloak
byeah never trust the terraria devs if they ever call smth the final update
why would we
fierce nebula
It doesn’t even matter that much if vanilla stops due to the modding community being insane
quaint cloak
I bet next up is gonna be 1.4.5.1
hasty tangle
well yeah, hotfixes always come first
i mean like in terms of content updates though
pseudo vector
yeah i was gonna say that's literally just a hotfix update lol
modern horizon
farewell in advacne
^^
pseudo vector
twin juniper
can’t wait to hear the new twin theme in game
twin juniper
there’s also eow theme I think
quaint cloak
can the next one after 1.4.5 just be 1.5 lol
nah they're gonna do 1.4.6 1.4.7 1.4.8 and 1.4.9
till 1.5
fierce nebula
1.4.10
hasty tangle
i remember being really disappointed back when minecraft did that like 40 years ago with 1.10
twin bloom
26 Minecrafts
modern grove
Minecraft 1.99.9299.92877289.9.
hushed crown
how many new themes will there be?
oh wait yeah so much we haven’t even heard
wasn’t it made so each boss now has an individual theme? and the old boss themes were put on the best candidates
modern grove
Something like that I assume
Each boss with repeating theme will probably have a new one
hot knot
destroyer i think
modern grove
Eoc will probably keep boss 1, destroyer will probably keep boss 3, golem will probably keep golem (why did LC have his theme again)
modern grove
might be more
They said there's like a lot of new music
And while I don't think they confirmed that it's boss music, I think it's safe to assume
hot knot
Eoc will probably keep boss 1, destroyer will probably keep boss 3, golem will p...
reasonable
same with queen bee maybe
other than okram only that uses boss 4
modern grove
I'm pretty sure boss 4 only plays in her fight?
So you can say it's queen bee theme
hot knot
i guess
modern grove
I like how older themes are called boss something and new themes just refer to bosses by name
My favorite terraria bosses are boss 1 and duke fishron
versed heart
can the next one after 1.4.5 just be 1.5 lol
It's possible the cross play update will be 1.4.6
I don't know if it was ever confirmed, but I think it makes more sense than some random small hotfix
tribal isle
can the next one after 1.4.5 just be 1.5 lol
they did say 1.4 would be the last one
so it'd make more sense if after 1.4.5 theyd make terraria 2
or terraria otherworld
wide nova
otherworld is soo back baby🔥🔥🔥
tribal isle
calamity otherworld
modern grove
otherworld is never happening
hot knot
terraria community remix
modern grove
thats every mod in existence if you think about it
stiff light
otherworld is soo back baby🔥🔥🔥
amen!!
hot knot
thats every mod in existence if you think about it
true
tribal isle
otherworld is never happening
you just have to believe
humble rapids
When is the update dropping? 2030?
modern grove
right now
humble rapids
FR?
modern grove
stay tuned
humble rapids
Will it just be resprites or actual content?
wide nova
😂
modern grove
there was a graph with everything changed in bullshit update its somewhere in pins probably
humble rapids
Any more postgame summoner stuff?
humble rapids
Spill, do we know which ones?
humble rapids
it hurts my eyes to look at, I doesn't provide me any helpful info lol
polar tide
girl
lapis oak
how
humble rapids
I mean I can kind of figure it out
lapis oak
the unpleasant gradients
no post-game summoner stuff
it's not like people playing post-game anyways
humble rapids
Summoner is too weak
fierce nebula
Summoner is too weak
polar tide
bait
humble rapids
It needs a massive buff
lapis oak
alright buddy
hushed hazel
humble rapids
like it takes me 1.13 seconds to kill Yharon, it used to only take me 0.98 seconds
humble rapids
like you see that right? This is so unbalanced, its far too weak
lapis oak
@ Fluffy you heard it return Snapthorn to its glory
hollow harness
99.9% summoner penalty
hot knot
pray for it
hollow harness
lack of Vanilla Divine Knowledge
humble rapids
But do we know what post game things are being reworked?
polar tide
if only there was a chart or something for that
polar tide
Yes
humble rapids
damnit, whatever hopefully means nothing will be nerfed more, but when is the update dropping
modern grove
in about
polar tide
hi bro
pseudo vector
hi
frail owl
meow
humble rapids
january / february
I must get more content
lusty stirrup
for the 1 billionth time
do you got the chart with all the weapon reworks on it 
pseudo vector
like we don't have a genie that can whip up a calamity update for us
if you want more info on the upcoming update, the charts, the montage, and the newsletter on the website linked in #mod-announcements are the best places to look
humble rapids
this stuff takes time lol
Are there any new armor coming
lapis oak
no
humble rapids
accessories?
young notch
BLOCKS?!
pseudo vector
yes
young notch
Revolutionary
pseudo vector
lots of new tiles
humble rapids
there's a few new accessories coming
I dont see em on the chart
polar tide
i can;t remember are any weapons being reworked
humble rapids
neat fursona lol
polar tide
no
modern grove
like we don't have a genie that can whip up a calamity update for us
first ever ai generated terraria mod
polar tide
i have a quota to fill i need to say at least one stupid thing to cdmusic every day
polar tide
TRUEE
modern grove
this is how i feel like any time i draw something
young notch
neat fursona lol
Thank you :)
modern grove
i gotta finish my weaver redesign bro...
pseudo vector
lots of new tiles yes
quaint cloak
THİS İS ALL I WİSHED FOR
YES
YES
HELL YES
(I think I'm getting a bit into the joke)
modern grove
kill 7 billion tile makers
quaint cloak
500 new blocks
misty wren
waiter waiter more tile spritesheets please
quaint cloak
lots of new tiles yes
also are we getting new armor related to some sort of exo armor?
pseudo vector
no
misty wren
not yet
quaint cloak
oh aight
pseudo vector
not yet at least, that will come later
modern grove
i forgot is arsenal armor coming in
misty wren
sso
pseudo vector
we have a lot of future plans
humble rapids
Thank you :)
hes handsome
viral merlin
like we don't have a genie that can whip up a calamity update for us
But I do
@Grok, generate me a Calamity Mod update
cunning sequoia
fixed an issue where scout could run
plush carbon
YOUR CALAMITY MOD UPDATE: HELLISH HARBOR 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
Coulda said Bountiful Harvest
tribal isle
bludtiful bludvest
versed heart
I feel like if Calamity had a large update made entirely by ai that might be more of a monkey's paw situation than a genie situation. That probably depends on what variation of genie the genie is, though...
barren nacelle
Desert Spirit
versed heart
"Desert Spirit, I wish for a major update to Calamity..."
"Idc man I'm just going to explode you now"
shut ridge
AI generated calamity would have a DoG boss fight for every old resprite
azure oak
I feel like if Calamity had a large update made entirely by ai that might be mor...
would be closer to getting sewer sludge thrown in your face than a monkey's paw
at least a monkey's paw provides something of value
plush carbon
i think it'd be something like From the Ashes
blazing field
No it'd be significantly worse
pulsar cobalt
from the ashes isnt even a bad update
plush carbon
yea but that name though
pulsar cobalt
what
blazing field
dog question mark image
pulsar cobalt
dog question mark image
🐶 ❓
blazing field
thats pretty vague
pulsar cobalt
theres quite a few ways to "go down quickly"
unkempt grove
how's it going
blazing field
for one i think you're in the wrong channel but to answer that i dunno man like. just fall down i guess
polar tide
pogo stick mount
pulsar cobalt
the best agreed upon ways would be pogo stick or slime, since both only take a mount slot to utilise
blazing field
there's both slime mounts that make you fall faster but you said no to those
yeah theres pgoo stick
forgot it existed
pulsar cobalt
another way would be to use gravistar sabaton but that takes up an accessory slot
unkempt grove
genuinely i just use the slimy saddle all game
plush carbon
i've seen From the Ashes be called genuinely deplorable given the context
polar tide
yo mama genuinely deplorable
plush carbon
me personally i think a more um
appropriate
name couldve been chosen
polar tide
okay
pulsar cobalt
i've seen From the Ashes be called genuinely deplorable given the context
what the actual fuck are you on about
blazing field
I dunno man like i think you're reading too much into it
hasty tangle
i've seen From the Ashes be called genuinely deplorable given the context
how is it deplorable
22 was a pretty major shift in calamity's development
blazing field
Incident that almost blew up calamity > Update afterwards as a new dev team is hired being called from the ashes like wow guys look we're rising from the ashes after we almost died
hasty tangle
one that many thought the mod wouldnt survive
blazing field
^ yea lol
hidden folio
how do I summon polaris
pulsar cobalt
theres also the fact that it has other meanings
polar tide
wtf is anyone supposed to do about the name of an update from nearly 3 years ago
blazing field
It had the crags rework yeah
pulsar cobalt
like how it redid most of the world gen things
and had profaned guardians rework
and also rewrote all the lore from the ground up
like stuff can have more than one thematically appropiate meaning
😭
plush carbon
okok i see whats happening is i got this point of view from an echo chamber where nobody was arguing against it
hasty tangle
you arent really elaborating either
pulsar cobalt
i think theyre trying to say that its disingenious or smthn
plush carbon
i thought it was more commonly agreed that it was a bit of a weird thing to call an update that succeeds a bunch of devs leaving
like downplaying it
hasty tangle
how is it downplaying?
"from the ashes" makes it seem like cal coming back after a massive, negative event that nearly ended it
and 22 most certainly was
hollow harness
from the ashes like a phoenix but I think it was more like getting shot in the knee and undergoing hospital treatment and changing lifestiles
polar tide
i genuinely cannot comprehend giving an eighth of a shit about this
blazing field
People finding literally any possible way like literally any way to shitalk hit terraria mod calamity
soon we'll discover how armored digger is actually evil and the worst addition ever because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hollow harness
you don't have to make this a white and black situation
blazing field
There's valid critiques to give about calamity don't get me wrong but this is so nothingburger
plush carbon
i just mentioned it as an offhand thing at first
theres people that care way more than me about this thats where I even got it from in the first place
hollow harness
its pretty gray in reality as the process of the 22 happening preceeds a lot of things and also it should be viewed in contextt of the time (dialectically
polar tide
you brought it up as an offhand thing adn then shoehorned it back into the conversation even though nobody cared lol
plush carbon
i was asked
lapis oak
what the fuck are you guys even talking about
who cares bruh it's literally just an update name
plush carbon
i can tell you exactly who cares if you want cause its people I figured were trustworthy sources
orchid finch
what's this all about
plush carbon
another instance of me figuring out I was in an echo chamber
hollow harness
i don't really agree on the idea of it being just an update name there's much more than that I think
plush carbon
This happens.. a considerable amount in tMod spaces
hollow harness
like the tboi item
plush carbon
I gotta learn better to form my own opinions
hollow harness
tribal isle
i don't really agree on the idea of it being just an update name there's much mo...
nothing has any meaning we will all die
plush carbon
Its always interesting, one server will collectively say one thing, another server will collectively say another,
hollow harness
fierce nebula
nothing has any meaning we will all die
Nothing ever happens
tribal isle
Nothing ever happens
silksong came out
fierce nebula
Who cares
tribal isle
a lot of people
stuck kite
me personally i think a more um
appropriate
name couldve been chosen
it didn't start of that way but the theme of the update was gonna involve ruins or restructuring anyway and any title involving that is gonna be spun as some kind of 22 remark because drama is fresh on people's minds
fierce nebula
Silksong isn’t even real
stuck kite
the alternative title 'remnants reborn' would not have been interpreted any better of a taste if you pick it hard enough
plush carbon
suppose it is sort of a lose lose situation with this thing
stuck kite
gotta remember what 2.0.2.1 was actually about too it was a fitting motif
it just had to be sucked up that it is a meta commentary
and the one who pointed it out was none other than fabsol
lean relic
bountiful harvest
most content BH added is died now
rotten harvest
plush carbon
fell for the fabsol agenda
hasty tangle
>bountiful harvest
>most content BH added is died now
>rotten harvest
bountiful harvest was a pretty good update for everything except the bosses
stuck kite
i didnt include the message below that but it was fab saying "referencing death of half the team"
plush carbon
Moonburn from what I remember took the name as an insult too
so it wasnt just the fanbase
stuck kite
i stand by the idea it wasn't meant to but you wouldn't know that and confirmation bias is a powerful force
plush carbon
when you have like 5 people yelling "this is bad actually!" yea its gonna rub off
spark kiln
why are we arguing about an update name from like 3 years ago
stuck kite
if you got a letter from each previous update name you can form green needle
stiff light
green needle.....
stuck kite
i mean brainstorm i mean green needle i mean
frail owl
mean
stiff light
green storm
lapis oak
😔
frail cove
Brainstorm update leak: ||bbno$ collab||
fathom girder
Brainstorm update leak: ||bbno$ collab||
real
halcyon seal
Did you know? Brainstorm has been said to include “more than one change”
stiff light
can we aim for less then one
hasty tangle
eventually the counter will overflow and itll be a negative number of changes
mission accomplished
dull heart
True
frail cove
The game reverts back to version 1.0 with big spotted slime god
dull heart
A lot of changes in Brainstorm srr removals or reversions
like almost every item with defensive had its defense reverted to match vanilla defense scaling
pseudo vector
its funny that a bunch of BH's changes are getting reverted in BS
dull heart
deserved
lyric trellis
Ravager walls need to have 0 contact!
fathom girder
its funny that a bunch of BH's changes are getting reverted in BS
that's bs
empty yarrow
What a Calamity - Part II hell yeah
fossil dew
Ravager needs a blender beam attack and needs to inflict confusion on contact
empty yarrow
We are KILLING Bh boss changes with a hammer
cunning sequoia
can we rename bh to bad crop
empty yarrow
(Is that what’s being reverted? I already forgot what BH did)
fierce nebula
Master changes
empty yarrow
Aside from the weapon reworks and Desert Scourge (Which is dying too)
Later but still dying
empty yarrow
can we rename bh to bad crop
The Bountiful was not Harvest 
hollow harness
too many pesticides on the crops
modern grove
The locusts have devoured the entire harvest
hollow harness
they bought seeds from Monsanto 🥀 🥀
hasty tangle
BH really wasnt that bad aside from the bosses
theres more to the game than just them
hard hearth
bullet hell
fathom girder
theres more to the game than just them
Boss rush mod
shut ridge
BH *really* wasnt that bad aside from the bosses <:lo:802829616540549121>
I think some of the bosses are good
empty yarrow
BH *really* wasnt that bad aside from the bosses <:lo:802829616540549121>
I thought it was great, I liked the Reworks
shut ridge
Eye of cthulu is honestly peak
empty yarrow
SCal and Desert Scourge were great
hasty tangle
aside from the master mode boss reworks*
shut ridge
Agree
hasty tangle
i should have clarified
shut ridge
aside from the master mode boss reworks*
Difficulties are so confusing i’m glad they’re changing it
empty yarrow
I don’t think Cal should have touched Master Mode in the first place
shut ridge
cause i’m talking about Master Death
dull heart
Ravager walls need to have 0 contact!
done
lyric trellis
Now they have all the contact
dull heart
Idk what one you mean
placid kite
nvm then
fierce nebula
The
icy stump
I think this mentioned item
lean relic
what fuckin item bruh
The item
fierce nebula
✅
lapis oak
the Pointer?
dusty tinsel
782 - Added Kiri as a boss after Exo mechs/ calamitas then when defeated gives you the kiri NPC
lapis oak
😠
amber egret
whats BH?
oh Bountiful Harvest
i heard a lot of People Vehemently Hated That Update
placid kite
When was the last real update
lean relic
like uhhhhhh
humble rapids
When will the update release
fierce nebula
What do you mean by that
hollow harness
Rust and Dust?
fierce nebula
When will the update release
Jan-feb
hollow harness
1.5 right
fierce nebula
Rust and Dust?
💀
fierce nebula
Rust and dust came before
hollow harness
Oh yea
lean relic
Let's see, most recent version was released in November 28, 2025
mystic eagle
Rust and dust was Cal 1.4.5 iirc
halcyon seal
Have you seen it
humble rapids
Not DLC, mod I mean
placid kite
What
halcyon seal
Cal has the most content out of any mod on all of tmod
humble rapids
Have you seen it
I mean yeah it adds some
halcyon seal
If you want more content go buy a game
hollow harness
REAL updates have to be the marketing message updates /s
humble rapids
But like, it’s not enough though
halcyon seal
Why is it not enough
humble rapids
Why is it not enough
It only adds like 20 bosses
halcyon seal
How many bosses do other mods add
mystic eagle
But like, it’s not enough though
Phaseslayer Tier bait
humble rapids
It doesn’t have enough gear
lean relic
😭 ?
pseudo vector
what
fallen flame
When was the last real update
I mean the last major-ish content update I recall was bountiful harvest in like may of 2024
humble rapids
It doesn’t have enough music themes
hollow harness
this is divine ragebaiting
fallen flame
And even then people found it kinda underwhelming from what I know lol
halcyon seal
And even then people found it kinda underwhelming from what I know lol
The weapon reworks were generally very well received iirc
pseudo vector
bro thinks over 5 hours total of music is not enough
halcyon seal
The bosses uhhhhhhh
fallen flame
The weapon reworks were generally very well received iirc
Well yeah that part was ok I guess lol
pseudo vector
that's more than most actual games have music wise
placid kite
bro thinks over 5 hours total of music is not enough
Peak music
fierce nebula
It only adds like 20 bosses
Only
placid kite
I listened to the music more than I played the game
mystic eagle
bro thinks over 5 hours total of music is not enough
Probably 6 hours at this point
fierce nebula
Did I stutter
fathom girder
around 6 to 7 hours
humble rapids
The base game has like 30
lean relic
butter is trying to ragebait too hard lets use em on frying pan before its too late
fierce nebula
The base game has like 30
Yeah and this is a fucking mod
pseudo vector
i do have a playlist saved on soundcloud of the full calamity ost as it currently stands
one moment
hollow harness
ragebaiting with Divine Intellect
fierce nebula
Generally singular mods don’t add almost as much as the base game
humble rapids
Yeah and this is a fucking mod
That’s not an excuse
It could add like 30-40 easily
pseudo vector
halcyon seal
There are more calamity bosses than vanilla bosses last I checked
fierce nebula
We need 90 bosses that all recycle vanilla ai
fathom girder
This butter guy
humble rapids
We need 90 bosses that all recycle vanilla ai
We already have one
mystic eagle
VCMM lurking around the corner:
pseudo vector
and this is just base calamity
humble rapids
When will they add Yharim boss fight
pseudo vector
hpu doesn't have her stuff on soundcloud so it is missing a few
mystic eagle
and this is just base calamity
🐌
placid kite
Does it have the newish vcmm songs
pseudo vector
When will they add Yharim boss fight
in our last major update whenever it happens
pseudo vector
Does it have the newish vcmm songs
no, just base calamity
humble rapids
in our last major update whenever it happens
And when will that be
placid kite
halcyon seal
Vanilla has King Slime, Eye of Cthulhu, Eater of Worlds, Brain of Cthulhu, Queen Bee, Skeletron, Wall of Flesh, Queen Slime, all 3 mechanical bosses, Plantera, Golem, Duke Fishron, Empress of Light, Betsy, Lunatic Cultist, and Moon Lord
halcyon seal
That adds up to 18 bosses
pseudo vector
when we get to it
humble rapids
we don't know
6-7 years?
polar tide
And when will that be
Next thursday
halcyon seal
Wait I forgot deerclops
polar tide
Get hype!
halcyon seal
19 bosses
placid kite
like we genuinely don't know
They don't even know when this update comes out
halcyon seal
Pretty respectable number
lean relic
no
pseudo vector
no
lean relic
too much bosses for a mod
halcyon seal
Would you rather have more bosses?
I’d rather have half the bosses we have now if it means those bosses could have double the time devoted to them
placid kite
What about the 2500 ish more items they add are they nothing
dull heart
The base game has like 30
Base terraria doesn't have 30 bosses, it has 17
humble rapids
too much bosses for a mod
The mod already is pretty starved for content
dull heart
Compare this to calamity which adds 25? bosses
humble rapids
Base terraria doesn't have 30 bosses, it has 17
Potato patota
icy stump
Would you rather have more bosses?
Quantity is not quality
halcyon seal
Base terraria doesn't have 30 bosses, it has 17
Wait 17?
Oh not counting boc and betsy
fathom girder
You think butter came from the red nation
humble rapids
I’d rather have half the bosses we have now if it means those bosses could have ...
The mod has so little content to
polar tide
Calamity was a terraria content mod that added Shroomble. It was universally hated
pseudo vector
we love shroomble
fierce nebula
The mod already is pretty starved for content
For real
pseudo vector
no shroomble hate will be tolerated
placid kite
The mod has so little content to
What's your favorite mod
halcyon seal
Calamity was a terraria content mod that added Shroomble. It was universally hat...
FACT STATUS: ✅ ✅ ✅ TRUE ✅ ✅ ✅
fierce nebula
No yharim=the end of calamity
humble rapids
Base terraria doesn't have 30 bosses, it has 17
Uh same difference of
fallen flame
in our last major update whenever it happens
But when will xeroc and noxus be released then? 
humble rapids
What's your favorite mod
Calamity
fierce nebula
But when will xeroc and noxus be released then? <:snut:794752608308953090>
Tomorrow
pseudo vector
that's up to whether we want to do them afterwards
fierce nebula
Hope this helps!
pseudo vector
what is brother saying
hollow harness
Food for thought
fathom girder
He's gotta be from the red nation
lean relic
Never seen a butter ragebaiting
pseudo vector
i think bro's brain might melt at room temperature like actual butter
halcyon seal
That’s what I’ve been saying and these khokhols have been trolling
Listen man I get you think you’re being funny and posting this to all your friends in the group chat but honest to god is this worth your time
hollow harness
pseudo vector
bro needs to go in the fridge
amber egret
i think it is Soup
dull heart
shroombye
hollow harness
Pondering hours in CUT
fierce nebula
The end of calamity
amber egret
Playing Calamity Mod
humble rapids
i think bro's brain might melt at room temperature like actual butter
That’s kinda rude don’t you think? I’m just respectfully asking for more content
hollow harness
Like what else could you be doing rn
reading marxist theory
placid kite
humble rapids
Listen man I get you think you’re being funny and posting this to all your frien...
It’s been only like 6-7 minutes at most.
hollow harness
ricing up a linux distro
pseudo vector
is the respect in the room with us right now
humble rapids
I’m not wasting my time doing this
halcyon seal
Ok, bye
hollow harness
Divine Rage baiting
humble rapids
Ok, bye
As in asking politely for more content for a mod I enjoy isn’t a waste of time
lean relic
is the respect in the room with us right now
uh no
humble rapids
Because the calamity mod doesn’t have enough content
pseudo vector
if you want more bosses so badly, try to make your own mod that adds more bosses
see how that goes
humble rapids
if you want more bosses so badly, try to make your own mod that adds more bosses
But that would require skill
So
halcyon seal
Sounds like a you problem
fierce nebula
Calamity needs gacha mechanics
lean relic
Calamity needs gacha mechanics
...oh dear
humble rapids
Calamity needs gacha mechanics
I mean maybe it just needs more bosses and gear
fierce nebula
I mean maybe it just needs more bosses and gear
Which you can gamble for
distant raft
Calamity needs gacha mechanics
yes... ha ha ha... yes!
hollow harness
I think Calamity needs an integrated excel spreadsheet to ease up weapon testing
humble rapids
Like also gear calamity has so little gear
hushed hazel
can you not do this
humble rapids
Which you can gamble for
Loot boxes that give you boss fights and gear? Genius
distant raft
calamity needs 40 more bosses and 1700 new weapons sorry
fierce nebula
Loot boxes that give you boss fights and gear? Genius
Thank you
hollow harness
Obviously powered using the true office program LibreOffice Calc
humble rapids
calamity needs 40 more bosses and 1700 new weapons sorry
That’s exactly what I’m saying
wispy blade
libreoffice mentioned
distant raft
all the bosses are reskins of fighter ai and the weapons are all either minisharks or tungsten broadswords
pseudo vector
fierce nebula
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674691299227467785/1304931922652303381/ob...
And they’re pigs 😭
humble rapids
I mean we still have the ravager that is literally just golem
wispy blade
every boss is just a clone of the green slime bc they all have hitboxes
halcyon seal
Calamity needs gacha mechanics
You could roll a Galaxy Smasher, or a Cosmic Discharge, maybe even a Galaxia! (Rates: 99% Phaseslayer)
wispy blade
this is why we should remove all enemies except green slime
humble rapids
every boss is just a clone of the green slime bc they all have hitboxes
True
fierce nebula
You could roll a Galaxy Smasher, or a Cosmic Discharge, maybe even a Galaxia! (R...
Phaseslayer is top tier
distant raft
real talk i love how even with peak performance phaseslayer is only ok
wispy blade
carpal tunnel generator to get mid dps
pseudo vector
go my carpal tunnel machine
i love my wrists so much
i can't wait to ruin them with phaseslayer
distant raft
i love my wrists
phaseslayer testing time
i love my wrists
wh
fierce nebula
Just use an autoclicker or something
sand dome
What’s happening with that anyway is it just getting entirely deleted or is it being reworked?
distant raft
Just use an autoclicker or something
fierce nebula
Phaseslayer is perfect the way it is
distant raft
youve gotta spin it
fierce nebula
I wouldn’t change a thing
fierce nebula
youve gotta spin it
Fake news
distant raft
and the damage gained from spinning it is massively reduced the closer your cursor is to the center of the screen
pseudo vector
What’s happening with that anyway is it just getting entirely deleted or is it b...
pretty sure its getting replaced???
distant raft
i do wonder how strong a 1200 rpm phaseslayer would be
hollow harness
is it like relative to your screen dimensions
distant raft
(1 rotation every 3 ticks)
pseudo vector
like it will not stay in its current state because it is legit just a carpal tunnel machine
wispy blade
lmao could you imagine
phaseslayer but it does the old zenith thing where having a widescreen monitor makes it stronger
pseudo vector
we would like our players to retain the integrity of their wrists
distant raft
like i dont doubt that at that speed itd be genuinely strong but like
hollow harness
like is the damage different if you have a 1366x768 screen vs 1920x1080 one
sand dome
Yea I figured cause the rotation thing was kinda not entirely intended to be a wrist killer
wide nova
The mod has so little content to
I hope this puts things into more perspective
More content in our project means hours of time worth planning, integration, and producing assets. Ideas and concepts dont always "get in" either. It's a lengthy process. "More content" is a very broad term used by you here.
If we were to take your comment as criticism in a hypothetical situation, what area do you feel lacks content in the mod? You aren't elaborating besides one-liner comments about boss count and what not. Explain yourself instead of antagonizing our developers please take into consideration what is required to make content exist in the first place
hollow harness
they done rage baiting so hard 🥀
fierce nebula
Calamity bad
sand dome
iirc when I thought of it initially I was thinking like, it could be a sword that you could literally swing but then it kinda became spin to win
fierce nebula
gg dont argue with me
wide nova
low-tierlamity...
sand dome
I hope that the weapon design and name get to stay at least 
fierce nebula
Phaseslayer is good
frail cove
Yharon sprite looks crazy
lean relic
I hope this puts things into more perspective
More content in our project means...
Ngl mods in terraria are like romhacks, adding that much content will make your terraria actually die
hollow harness
tmodloader romhack modding desing theory
wide nova
Ngl mods in terraria are like romhacks, adding that much content will make your ...
Taking care into optimization is critical for a polished product
If it runs bad it can be written better
fierce nebula
Another 30 bosses for calamity mod
Another 1000 tungsten broadswords for calamity mod
pseudo vector
iirc when I thought of it initially I was thinking like, it could be a sword tha...
physically swinging your weapon in terraria sounded better on paper than it works in reality
considering how much you usually use your weapons
dusk bronze
infinite carpal tunnel generator
wide nova
terraria now requires trackpad to swipe across the screen to perform slashes
sand dome
Yea in retrospect it probably wouldn’t have worked, though there’s probably a good way to make a laser sword now that doesn’t give you rsi
pseudo vector
and then i got a mouse and things were much better
amber egret
phaseslayer should be like a Sawblade i Think
Elemental Blaster sucked and then it was a Sawblade and now its Incredible
hollow harness
it should do justice being a doom eternal reference I think
amber egret
make it so enemies who Hit the Blade make it Spin Real fast. this will Fix Phaseslayer
sand dome
If I were to try and redesign it now I would probably make it be more of like a one swing big number type weapon that you could click and hold to charge up for one big swipe
And remove the projectile component
dusk bronze
If I were to try and redesign it now I would probably make it be more of like a ...
like new hellkite
pseudo vector
phaseslayer but it just turns you into a beyblade
like that one ares attack in wotm
polar tide
Phaseslayer rework its a normal sword but every time it hits an enemy it prompts a qte and how fast you react determines how much damage it does
fathom girder
Phaseslayer but it's just a sword hilt that's used like a grapple, upon which point it explodes the grappled spot with a high energy plasma beam
pearl sentinel
physically swinging your weapon in terraria sounded better on paper than it work...
I like phaseslayer because that's how you swing your sword in elder scrolls daggerfall
pseudo vector
you might be the only person i've heard having a positive opinion of phaseslayer as a weapon
still bluff
quick someone post shark wrist
vestal osprey
I have never once used phase slayer
dusk bronze
lucky
vestal osprey
Honestly i dont really use the arsenal weapons
fierce nebula
you might be the only person i've heard having a positive opinion of phaseslayer...
Phaseslayer is a hidden gem
Definitely
dusk bronze
❌ ❌ ❌
pulsar cobalt
quick someone post shark wrist
i dont have the image sadly
pseudo vector
i can hear your wrists screaming from here
fierce nebula
🫧 🦈
pulsar cobalt
and i cant find it anywhere on this discord
pseudo vector
they're begging for you to stop using phaseslayer
vestal osprey
Theres a reason all the arsenal weapons are being reworked...
Theyre not that good
lean relic
still bluff
consequences of phaseslayer use
pulsar cobalt
im disappointed that the comment for phaseslayer on the tierlist isnt just cits wrist
hot knot
Theres a reason all the arsenal weapons are being reworked...
Theyre not that g...
i found tracking disk cool though the others are forgettable for the most part
dusk bronze
wave pounder was kinda peak back in the day
grave geyser
Theres a reason all the arsenal weapons are being reworked...
Theyre not that g...
this is slander to my goat mounted scanner
cunning sequoia
wave pounder three-shotting DoG 🤩
pulsar cobalt
its a shame it only 8 shots dog now
amber egret
whats Wave Pounder again
dull heart
big bomb rogue weapon
amber egret
oh its Rogue
pulsar cobalt
polter is a pretty bad example to find out how good it is for dog
better to look at cv or sw
which i think its cv killtime is like 2 minutes?
dusk bronze
well i closed the tierlist already
pulsar cobalt
which is pretty bad if u wanna use it on dog
well
bad if its main gimmick is all about doing aoe
grave rock
Im guessing therell be no more spoilers for BS?
pseudo vector
dusk bronze
there will be a trailer though
molten grove
pseudo vector
we're just trying to get everything bugfixed, tested and such now
last thing we want to do is release a buggy update
lean relic
lyric trellis
Theres a reason all the arsenal weapons are being reworked...
Theyre not that g...
Star Swallower 💔
pulsar cobalt
ngl i forgot wat star swallower does
mystic eagle
which is pretty bad if u wanna use it on dog
2 minutes on CV is pretty good
If only the DoG killtime wasn't 20 minutes
grave geyser
last thing we want to do is release a buggy update
dread it, run from it, the random crash arives all the same
vestal osprey
Im guessing therell be no more spoilers for BS?
Probably one more set of changelogs at most
distant raft
actually it's like really bad now
i remember trying it and yeah it fucking sucks
that 0.2x mod on dog fucking killed its usability for him
lapis oak
Every weapons will get the Wave Pounder treatment
molten grove
Probably one more set of changelogs at most
sorry, i locked off changelogs for the update : /
placid kite
Update is very unlikely to come out before 1.4.5 right
molten grove
def not
placid kite
Ah
lapis oak
Waiting for the trailers
molten grove
Brainstorm will not come out before 1.4.5
fast vessel
k
what happens if 1.4.5 tmod drops before brainstorm, or would you guys rush brainstorm out before that happens?
molten grove
Brainstorm will not come out before 1.4.5
still stands
oh tmod
thats not happening for months, brainstorm is good
fast vessel
cool
lyric trellis
The true battle is 2.2 having SSO or not before 1.4.5
pulsar cobalt
cant wait for 1.4.5 tml to do a million backend changes so that sso can magically come first
lapis oak
cant wait for 1.4.5 tml to do a million backend changes so that sso can magicall...
Tupid
pulsar cobalt
ur tupid
rotund charm
did they fixed void concentration summon slot in 2.1?
cause right now it takes 2.9999 minion slots instead of 3
distant raft
im guessing thats just floating point imprecision
fathom girder
points can float?
humble rapids
I hope this puts things into more perspective
More content in our project means...
Okay, basically I feel like there should be more bosses, maybe bosses that aren't worm bosses, there are a lot in this mod, also more gear would be incredible.
paper haven
Yo anyone know when the next update is supposed to come out?
dusk bronze
before march
humble rapids
I heard its supposed to come out in the coming months
wide nova
Well you're in luck, just wait for SSO part 1. No new bosses, but 2 minibosses will be included that begin to blur the line btween a "boss" and a "miniboss".
humble rapids
Well you're in luck, just wait for SSO part 1. No new bosses, but 2 minibosses w...
When is SSO part 1
Im excited
dusk bronze
points can float?
in programming, numbers with decimals are called floating point numbers
for some reason
dusk bronze
When is SSO part 1
later this year probably
wide nova
No release date. No expectations, though we are aimnig for late 2026
fathom girder
in programming, numbers with decimals are called floating point numbers
for som...
yes I'm shitposting
I am
unfortunately
wide nova
In the meantime the Brainstorm update will release within the next couple weeks.
fathom girder
aware of what float variables are
humble rapids
Also you should buff summoner, its far too weak
dusk bronze
In the meantime the Brainstorm update will release within the next couple weeks.
trailer soon? :D
dusk bronze
okok good
halcyon seal
did they fixed void concentration summon slot in 2.1?
cause right now it takes 2...
What does this do
vestal osprey
What does this do
Either nothing or it completly buttergly effects and breaks everything
No inbetween
vast ferry
When will Resurrection Butterfly be fixed/reworked?
grave geyser
wdym
vast ferry
The weapon's been bugged, and as a Touhou reference, it's a reference in name only, unlike Scarlet Devil
grave geyser
bugged how
vast ferry
Lemme check. I knew it was bugged but I didn't know how.
grave geyser
bc I'm pretty sure that got fixed
halcyon seal
Well Resurrection Butterfly is a donor weapon last I checked
grave geyser
^
halcyon seal
So a donor would need to agree
polar tide
why does the wiki page for resurrection butterfly say that the tooltip is a reference to reimu lol its a line from yuyuko's fight that has nothing to do with reimu
am i a fake touhou fan am i missing something
oh it means the buff tooltip not the weapon tooltip nevermind
my lobotomy is in 3 days
grave rock
can donor weapons receive nerfs
limber wren
Well you're in luck, just wait for SSO part 1. No new bosses, but 2 minibosses w...
I was thinking about this earlier... Does Vanilla have any miniboss? Idk if some of the event enemies count, aside from Betsy ofc, which is counted as a boss
wide nova
I was thinking about this earlier... Does Vanilla have any miniboss? Idk if some...
Dread Nautilus
limber wren
Facts, mb
grave geyser
can donor weapons receive nerfs
yes
hasty tangle
can donor weapons receive nerfs
yes, but they cant receive any significant changes without consent of the owner
grave rock
dreadnautilus is an enemy
grave geyser
I was thinking about this earlier... Does Vanilla have any miniboss? Idk if some...
vanilla has bosses and then "event bosses"
hasty tangle
"significant" in the sense of things like reworks/retiers
wide nova
The pirate ship from the invasion event would be considered a miniboss
event bosses i guess uea
wide nova
dreadnautilus is an enemy
i would imagine it is one of the closest you get to a “mini boss” in vanilla
grave rock
tho tbf dreadnautilus is a mini boss in anything but name yeah
grave geyser
vanilla has bosses and then "event bosses"
the only "strong enemies" that dont cleanly fit into this are like, frost golem sand elemental wyvern and paladin
grave rock
isnt there a scrapped trophy for it or smth?
grave geyser
the only "strong enemies" that dont cleanly fit into this are like, frost golem ...
and even then sandstorm is basically an event
wide nova
all weather events are events
grave rock
they are kinda lame for whats essentially an events defining enemy
same w goblin summoner
grave geyser
all weather events are events
which leaves paladin and wyvern
aka regular enemies which are just pretty tanky
polar tide
vanilla giant tortoise is a mini boss
grave rock
or warlock
wide nova
rain is considered an event cause it spawns unique enemies
grave rock
whatever
wide nova
those are rare encounters
grave rock
those are rare encounters
yea im saying itd be nice if they were mini bosses
grave geyser
terraria enemy design is all over the place
hollow harness
you could also say that they are entities that can be detected using the lifeform analyzer
grave rock
two types of terraria enemies
fighter ai and the fuckers
limber wren
Yeah, I never thought about that that deep. Why are there super strong enemies with super nice concepts that are just lame with attacks?
I never really liked any event on the game aside from the Old Ones because it has a boss at the end, I feel like that's the nice way to do it, just like Acid Rain Overhaul plans
grave rock
ice golem
limber wren
Actually, is there any mod that overhauls only the events? Would be nice to try that...
grave geyser
yea im saying itd be nice if they were mini bosses
I mean tbf all but one of cals "minibosses" also would fall under the definition of an event boss
hollow harness
chilled ain't nothing the evil debuff is frozen
grave rock
I mean tbf all but one of cals "minibosses" also would fall under the definition...
which one?
grave geyser
clam
halcyon seal
the only "strong enemies" that dont cleanly fit into this are like, frost golem ...
What about biome mimics
grave geyser
What about biome mimics
hmmm
rare enemy variants
hollow harness
biome mimics are uhh Enemies that can be detected using a lifeform analyzer
grave rock
at least the current giant clam
limber wren
What about Sand Elementals?
halcyon seal
hmmm
~~rare enemy variants~~
Dark Mage
limber wren
Oh, right, sandstorms are a event xd
grave rock
if i was in charge of terraria id make ice golem and ice elemental proper mini bosses / event bosses
halcyon seal
I like to think Ice Golem’s an elemental in cal lore
halcyon seal
got a relic and a master mode drop like any other event boss lawl
Oh right he does
grave geyser
What about biome mimics
you could count these in the same catagory as like
earth elemental and plaguebringer
rare strong enemies that also dont exactly fit in as an actual miniboss
limber wren
event boss
And what about Betsy? See? That's why I say that that's the best event, 2 different tier minibosses, 1 final boss and a good mechanic (not killing a bunch of enemies but rather protect the crystal, which... Yeah, means killing a bunch of enemies, but there's an objective).
grave geyser
betsy would be an event boss
limber wren
betsy is an actual boss
I go for this, but, theorically, it is an event boss, but it doesn't behave like any other lame one, she is actually nice to fight as a stanalone boss
Standalone* sorry, my English flaws are showing a ton xd
grave geyser
"she's cool so she gets promoted"
grave rock
tbf she makes sense to be a proper boss
grave geyser
I mean
limber wren
"she's cool so she gets promoted"
Can't even argue w/ this, true
grave rock
more than pumpking or ice queen
she shows up standalone in the final tier of ooa and is more designed than those two
grave geyser
I mean thats just bc she's later in the game
compare her to like martian saucer
she's fairly similar in complexity
halcyon seal
you could count these in the same catagory as like
earth elemental and plaguebri...
Valid
I think Draconic Swarmer also fits there
grave rock
im comparing her to other "final event bosses"
grave geyser
ice queen is another one that I would argue is fairly complex
pumpking if anything is the odd one out to me
dull heart
Pumpking is actually fairly complex too
grave geyser
fair
dull heart
three different ai states and all its just that you don't actually need to pay attention to them
limber wren
My dream mod for events would be actually having minibosses (like Dark Mage or NK-1 Santa) between tiers and a final boss for each one (Old Ones already has Betsy, Frost Moon = Ice Queen, Pumpkin Moon = Pumpking, and so on). Such a shame I have no fucking clue on how to do any of this things, gonna have to hire someone when I have money XD
grave geyser
I think pumpking just feels less so bc one of his attacks is just "move the scythes into you"