calamity-update-talk

[inner timber]

not armor fuck

"melee"

im tired boss

[vestal osprey]

I think ive heard veg ideas of that tossed around

[amber egret]

I Will Be Playing Melee Day One

[dull heart]

the basic one would be Sirius + Stratus Sphere + Cresent Moon

but add in Galileo Gladius to recharge starbursts and you'll do a lot better

[amber egret]

Hm

is Stratus Good with Gem Tech

[vestal osprey]

Ima do all 5 classes.

By that I mean mostly summoner but for each boss ill fight them each 5 times, once per class

[calm ingot]

Oh boy another armor set to compete with bloodflare and omega blue and prismatic
I hope it gets added tho

[dull heart]

gem tech being post exos hurts them working together

but like

maybe?

[amber egret]

well Yes but Like

[dull heart]

it would work well mechanically

[fathom girder]

I will break the cosmos and use only stratus as soon as it's acquired in progression

[dull heart]

it's just that there is probably better options

[amber egret]

Presuming Stratus is Good Post-Exos

[dusk bronze]

post polter

[fathom girder]

yep

once polter is down it's only stratus

[inner timber]

its ok if it doesnt get added inwill become a dev and have stratus armor be my dev item

[dull heart]

but scal taking double dmg from Voidfrost helps

[fathom girder]

Might be interesting to try and kill polter early

[inner timber]

i will just ask doze to design the gimmicks of the armor

[fathom girder]

...I think I can do that

[dull heart]

iwould add a stratus armor set if there was a sprite

[inner timber]

this will work trust

[vestal osprey]

Will there be anything else that inflicts voidfrost besides stratus

[inner timber]

i cant sprite but i could cook up a design

[amber egret]

Stratus Armor that just Kills you if you use One Class for more than 20 seconds

[calm ingot]

Tell the spriters to drop the yharon resprite and get cooking

Chop chop

I’m waiting

[dull heart]

like genuinely if we got an asset sub of a stratus armor set that's a good enough design and satisfactory quality I think there's a good chance it would be added

[fathom girder]

the sprinters

[dull heart]

but i don't expect any current team spriters would go for it

[vestal osprey]

You know the details like what class it would be?

[dull heart]

it would be multiclass

[amber egret]

its All Of Them

its Gaia Armor

or Styx armor

or Eternal Armor

[vestal osprey]

Isnt omega blue in the same tier?

[amber egret]

Yes

[dusk bronze]

[dull heart]

omega blue is all class this is multi class

also stratus set would buff debuffs too

[amber egret]

doze I think there can only be So Many Debuff Buffs

[grave rock]

is uelibloom going away next update

[dull heart]

no

[dull heart]

there is not that many

[amber egret]

Amalgam + Stratus Set + Any Fucking Flask

[calm ingot]

Wouldnt it get replaced after one boss who is immune to debuffs

[dull heart]

dog isnt' immune to debuffs

[calm ingot]

Unless it’s strong enough to compete with auric

[dull heart]

in 2.1

[calm ingot]

Ohh

[grave rock]

what changes about 2.1 dog

[fathom girder]

many things

[dusk bronze]

the entire fight

and visuals

[misty wren]

this is like saying there can only be so many damage buffs

[dull heart]

it would be better than auric if you wanted to use Stratus weapons

[dusk bronze]

and dialogue

[calm ingot]

Stratus weapons are on par with exo drops wtf
Best update ever

[vestal osprey]

Does he still not fear death?

[dull heart]

yes

[dull heart]

no

[dusk bronze]

and it's still not over yet, kid

[dull heart]

but like, if you wanted to use them, stratus armor would be better than auric probably due to interacting with stratus set well

[grave rock]

i think he doesnt say kid anymore currently

[calm ingot]

Oh ic

[grave rock]

thankfully

[dusk bronze]

revived 🎉

[calm ingot]

But the real question is

[dull heart]

it'd be between fearmonger (tank) and stratus (dps)

[calm ingot]

That’s what I was about to ask

[grave rock]

what...

[vestal osprey]

HUH? you can get exo tier weapons after polterghast?

[amber egret]

doze this is Too Much Thinking

[dull heart]

no why do people keep saying that

[amber egret]

you're Confusing Them

[fathom girder]

?

[dusk bronze]

???

[amber egret]

NO

[fathom girder]

bro got hit with the double ?

asked to never cook again

[inner timber]

lowkey my brain is cooking up a design

[dull heart]

stratus set design looking like a ZZZ ethereal

would be so peka

peak

[dusk bronze]

include constellation wings

[misty wren]

what kind of ethereal though a sacrifice or one of the original ethereals

[dull heart]

originals

with the black hole heads that all got lost

[amber egret]

what is That Words

[dull heart]

zzz lost the plot

[dusk bronze]

zzz = zenless zone zero

[amber egret]

Oh

[dusk bronze]

g*cha game

[amber egret]

Isnt that the Gooner Game or is that just The Stereotype

[misty wren]

they did add a couple more fairly recently iirc

[amber egret]

i remember Very Very Very Poorly of Zenless

[dusk bronze]

they're all like that

[misty wren]

thats the stereotype outside of like 2 characters its not very gooner

[inner timber]

gonna be honest in my head the armor has a cape but wings could go hard too, although two post provi wings and a post sentinels wing (tracers) and a post polter wing (constellation wings) would be a bit ridiculous

[dull heart]

like

[misty wren]

there are far far worse games to point to

[dull heart]

this would go hard

[young notch]

Ehhh it’s pretty gooner but the story is actually pretty good

[inner timber]

not what i had in mind I'm afraid but i could cook up multiple designs

[amber egret]

oh Hey heres Fiz

thats Three

just need Sala and Tye

[young notch]

Hello stranger

[dusk bronze]

not counting tracers there's like 4. calamity post moonlord wings

[inner timber]

doze could you remind me in 3 hours

[dull heart]

no

maybe

might be asleep

or just watching anime or playing The NOexistenceN of you and me

[pulsar cobalt]

why dont u just use an alarm

[amber egret]

What Is that Second WOrd

[inner timber]

the 4 lunar ones, starboard, tarragon, elysian, silva, rebirth
then there's the tracers which like are wings

[amber egret]

The

NO

existence

N

[dull heart]

or factorio

[misty wren]

dont think its particularly more gooner compared to most of the other mainstream gachas but i could be desensitized

[inner timber]

oh wait calamity

[dull heart]

all i know is zzz is better than brown dust 2

[vestal osprey]

Real update talk here

[inner timber]

then yeah theres 4 non tracers but there's also not very many spots to shove another one

like post polter would be oddball

[misty wren]

not a high bar that is a very very low bar

[dusk bronze]

vanilla has several wings per tier

[inner timber]

vanilla also has more things to do per tier

[amber egret]

i think Calamity is quite good at Trying to make all Wings Equally Good, SituationWise

[dull heart]

tarragon wings also dying probably

[amber egret]

the Issue is that the Other wings are Not Combat

so they're Quite Bad

[dusk bronze]

we're in the mindset of post moonlord being good Eventually™

[pulsar cobalt]

there should be polter wings

[inner timber]

i suppose

[dull heart]

elysian, striders, silva, rebirth, tracers

[barren nacelle]

I'm curious

[dusk bronze]

moon walkers?

[inner timber]

i guess ill try to cook up constellation wings but i dont think they'd need much designing

[barren nacelle]

wait wrong channel for this uuuh

[dull heart]

i was not counting the 7 instant post ML wings

[amber egret]

just Make Some Starbursts

[dusk bronze]

true

[amber egret]

And Make Them Lines

[barren nacelle]

More post ml wings please give me cv wings

[dull heart]

solar, stardust, empyrean, vortex, nebula, starboard, walkers

[inner timber]

ywah this is what i mean by like. doesnt really need designing . it is very easy to come up with a design for them

[amber egret]

Recharges Flight Time by Eating Starbursts

[inner timber]

boring + i am probably less likely to do it if i set an alarm myself vs someone reminding me

[amber egret]

Yummy Yummy

[dusk bronze]

is that bad

[inner timber]

no

[dusk bronze]

wait cook

[pulsar cobalt]

stratus wing ability where u use starbursts to restore flight

would be totally balanced

[dull heart]

when flight time empty, consume starburst to fly

[pulsar cobalt]

[dull heart]

to be fair

[amber egret]

Starburst Liquid - Boosts Damage but Damage Fades Over Time While Using a Class

[dull heart]

it actually would be

[amber egret]

its like that One enchantment but it Sucks

[dusk bronze]

isn't ascendant insignia like the same tier

[dull heart]

consuming starbursts to fly is either a strict DPS or survivability loss

[dull heart]

whiskey

[amber egret]

eat starbursts to get Gravityless Momentumless Flight

for a Short TIme

[dusk bronze]

this is literally just whiskey

[amber egret]

flatly Better Flight, but Dogshit DPS and Healing

[dull heart]

honestly i don't think stratus needs wings but like

[amber egret]

Truth?

[dull heart]

could be cool

[dusk bronze]

stratus themed grav globe upgrade

[vestal osprey]

Do the starbursts taste like starbrusts

[vestal osprey]

HOLD ON... YOU COOK

[pulsar cobalt]

stratus becomes meta for scal

[amber egret]

Exo Chair

or Witch's Broom

or Brimrose

[pulsar cobalt]

exo chairs prob being moved

and those have momentum

[amber egret]

Witch's Broom

BrimRose

[amber egret]

yea but Like

they're not That Much Momentum

compared to Falling Downwards

[vestal osprey]

Camalitas when I perfectly dodge her bullet hell phases (I sat in draedons gaming chair)

[dull heart]

i'd be more interested in putting stuff on the armor like

100% increased Cold debuff damage
Generates Starbursts when taking damage
Raises maximum Starbursts to 150
Consumes Starbursts to fly when out of flight time

(i'd also let it consume Starbursts to restore double jumps when out of flight time too ofc)

[calm ingot]

Can we get a stratus mount instead

[dull heart]

no

[amber egret]

can we get Stratus Drinks

so i may Overdose on Stratus

[pulsar cobalt]

can we get stratus pet

[amber egret]

when i Use Stratus Gear i want NOTHING To be Not Stratus

[dusk bronze]

go back in time to december 31st 2020 and add it as a patreon item

[dull heart]

i could make alpha draconis able to be equipped in vanity for a passive draco lowkey

[calm ingot]

If I could do that I would add an upgrade to the barracuda gun that shoots reaper sharks

Before maelstrom was added

[amber egret]

Dye? Stratus. Armor? Stratus. Buffs? Stargazer. Pets? Stratus.

[vestal osprey]

Its all stratus

[pulsar cobalt]

i think if u did that itd be a bit confusing

[dull heart]

L

[amber egret]

Blocks? Starcrossed. Bosses? Starstruck. Me? Starry-Eyed.

[vestal osprey]

Doze what did you do, calamity is obbsesed with a weapon set used until DoG

[dull heart]

it can be used later

[amber egret]

no its moreso I havent Seen The Other Stuff

[vestal osprey]

The new set can yeah

[dull heart]

i specifically designed it to be useful at least through yharon for those who want

[amber egret]

my Playthrough? Stratus.

Prehardmode Stratus Shit.

Kill a Man faster than God

[calm ingot]

I cheated in stratus blocks to build my arena

It’s probably the nicest looking stuff in the game even before the rework

[rare tinsel]

i know the secrets to build lihzahrd bricks

[amber egret]

Modding the game to add

All Tier Draedon Gear
All Tier Stratus Gear
All Tier Fragment Gear
All Tier Auric Fusion Gear
Miracle Matter Gear

This will Cure Cancer, Fix Pollution, AND Get me Five Dollars.

[rare tinsel]

Draedon I think does a lot of pollution to make his things

[amber egret]

I Need Those Five Dollars to get Auric

[amber egret]

Im also gonna Fix That

[rare tinsel]

No don't do that it's cool

[vestal osprey]

auric is 50 dollars

[inner timber]

yk clearly considering tracer names are being changed, the stratus wings could be named star tracers

[amber egret]

No But like its Cool Pollution

[amber egret]

i have Fourty Five

[amber egret]

Star Dancers

[gray trench]

Elysian treads!!!!!

Iarent thone like

Void

Or something

Void xicks

Words

ALSO DOZE NEW SCAL

Whhortahofodoog

[dull heart]

:)

[gray trench]

!!!!!!

No spoiling

[dull heart]

Stratus set would probably be something like

Head

13% increased dmg and crit chance

• 3 minions
  Body
  13% increased dmg and crit chance
  -25% ammo cost
  Leggings
  13% increased dmg and crit chance
  +25% move speed
  Set Bonus
  150% increased Cold debuff damage
  Generates Starbursts when taking damage
  Raises maximum Starbursts to 150
  Consumes Starbursts to fly when out of flight time

[gray trench]

But ilke

IT DID THE THING

[amber egret]

this is. This is just Omega Blue?

but Starbursts

[dull heart]

true

[gray trench]

Doze scal did THE THING!

[amber egret]

These Fucking Things

[gray trench]

[dull heart]

but like

[dusk bronze]

IT DID

[dull heart]

most armor sets are just other armor sets except their gimmick

[amber egret]

can you make GFB make Starbursts into These Colors

[gray trench]

ITS SO COOL

[dull heart]

when i had that idea it was SO GOOD

[gray trench]

(not beating dog)

[dull heart]

i knew i had to do it

[pulsar cobalt]

whats the thing

[amber egret]

What Difficulty is The THing

[pulsar cobalt]

u must tell me and only me

[dusk bronze]

the thing

[dull heart]

pay $50 to see it

[gray trench]

It's top 3 doze idea

[dull heart]

all

[pulsar cobalt]

GIVE ME MONEY FIRST

[orchid finch]

Can I see it? 🥺

[pulsar cobalt]

💥

[amber egret]

SCal does The THing always?

[dull heart]

ok

[gray trench]

Pay 50$!;;!

[pulsar cobalt]

wtf why does zavarski get to see but not me,,,,,

[amber egret]

can I see it. some Random Bumfunk Nobody

[orchid finch]

Shhhh I have a trump card up my sleeve called Being Buddies

[pulsar cobalt]

wtf

[dull heart]

go to this url

[vivid hemlock]

🔥

[pulsar cobalt]

but im also friends with doze

[orchid finch]

Bruh...

[amber egret]

thats Netflix

[dull heart]

hmm

actually

starburst wing effect i lowkey like better on an accessory

Arcanum of the Void could just do that entire set bonus except the cold debuff

like this would be a nice accessory

Generates Starbursts when taking damage
+50 maximum Starburst
Consumes Starbursts to fly when out of flight time

[dusk bronze]

true!

[orchid finch]

Sounds cool

[dull heart]

stratus armor sweep - enemies inflicted with Voidfrost take 1.15x dmg :)

[amber egret]

hey doze

passing Question

what is the Change to Amalgam

Might I Ask

[fathom girder]

Enemies inflicted with voidfrost are inflicted with another stack of voidfrost. This effect does not have a limit

[amber egret]

This'd be Okay if they all shared a Timer

[dull heart]

Voidfrost can now stack, with duration of each stack calculated seperately

that would be INSANE

[fathom girder]

lmao

[amber egret]

that would be Insane

[dull heart]

but like

not unreasonable?

[fathom girder]

Pull a catalyst and make a special auric set that uses the stratus armor that further enhances the bonus

debuff meta

[dusk bronze]

each stack on the same enemy is 0.5 seconds less

[fathom girder]

wham bam

[dull heart]

Voidfrost being used as it is means that it stacking isn't like

a huge deal

[amber egret]

dude Actually

That'd be Kinda Flames

Pre-Exos Gem Tech but Not As Harsh

i Would Use Stratus if That existed

[dusk bronze]

doze typing for 275 years

[fathom girder]

67 years

[dull heart]

Armor set bonus

+50 maximum Starburts
Generate Starbursts when hurt
Consumes Starbursts to refresh flight when empty, leaving a trail of stardust that inflicts Voidfrost
Voidfrost can stack when re-applied, with each stack's duration calculated seperately

something like this

[fathom girder]

I'm glad I could assist with the set bonus lul

voidfrost metaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[dusk bronze]

stratus armor + amalgam + manhattan

is yharon weak to cold

[dull heart]

crazy accessory idea

+50 maximum Starbursts
Generates Starbursts when consuming healing potions
when Starburts are more than 50% full, dashing consumes Starbursts and is empowered with Voidfrost

[dull heart]

yes

[dusk bronze]

lmao

[pulsar cobalt]

maybe instead of voidfrost can stack you can say multiple instances of voidfrost can be inflicted (if thats wat ur trying to say at least i think it is)

[dull heart]

yeah

[fathom girder]

Another dash accessory

dear lord

[amber egret]

"Empowered" How So

[pulsar cobalt]

YES MORE DASH ACCESSORIES

[fathom girder]

dash stacking 'till kingdom come

[pulsar cobalt]

like pauldron

[dull heart]

slagsplitter/ambergris post polter

type thing

[amber egret]

no like

Explosions or Ambergris

[dull heart]

ambergris also has big water damaging wave

[dusk bronze]

deep diver + slagsplitter + ambergris + stratus accessory + cinnamon roll

[dull heart]

oh but wait

old duke scales

is right there

[fathom girder]

I shield bash yharon

he evaporates

take his head smoov off

[dull heart]

2 dash accs being so close is kinda meh

but i also don't really know what other ways to have an acc consume starbursts

[dusk bronze]

a parry?

[fathom girder]

are you asking for ideas

[dusk bronze]

idk

[fathom girder]

Spore sac but the more starbursts you have, the more things you spawn around you

[pulsar cobalt]

ok but theyd also be like

[dull heart]

neither of these will probably be real anyway (sprite hell)

[pulsar cobalt]

entirely different uses

[fathom girder]

bamma lamma

[pulsar cobalt]

ods is defensive and mobility

and this would be offensive

[dusk bronze]

bribe someone to hold a spriting competition

[pulsar cobalt]

guhhh asset hell in calamity makes me so annoyed at times that it makes me wish i knew how to do art

[pulsar cobalt]

thats called assets needed

[dusk bronze]

nobody cares about that

sad but true

[fathom girder]

TOP WINNER gets FIVE DOLLARS and this HOT DOG I FOUND

[dull heart]

maybe they will post 2.1

[pulsar cobalt]

nobody cares because no one uses it

[fathom girder]

Tbf brainstorm and SSO are a pretty big bottleneck

I'm not at all surprised that side additions like this aren't really gonna happen for awhile lul

lord knows the devs don't need MORE scope creep

[dull heart]

Yeah I don't think a stratus accessory and armor both makes snes

[fathom girder]

stratus pickaxe

generates starbursts when mining

increased mining speed when you have starbursts

[arctic cliff]

okay at least i want a fun (near) endgame mobility accessory that just combines various dash accessories with some fun similar-ish accessories

[dull heart]

consumes them to use the WotG world reset

[arctic cliff]

that is my pipe dream accessory

[fathom girder]

lmao

crystyl crusher eat your heart out

[calm ingot]

The humble cosmilite with 10 gorillion accessories

But it’s required for progression so ig it makes more sense

[dull heart]

It doesn't have a set gimmick for stuff to fit into either

Stratus has basically been exhausted of unique ways to interact with starbursts in combat related context

with the exception of generation on hit and consumption to extend flight time

[fathom girder]

y'know the fairy boots?

what if that but

starburst

[dull heart]

? what

[fathom girder]

like the more starbursts you have, the more stats you get

[calm ingot]

What if you got an active that you could activate with so many starbursts
Like the omega blue tentacles or bloodflare ranger souls

[dull heart]

literally every weapon except Stratus Sphere and Sirius is an activated ability to consume starbursts

[fathom girder]

stratus grapple that consumes starbursts for every pixel it has to go forward

[pulsar cobalt]

you only need one fairy for fairy boots tho,,,,

[calm ingot]

Ic then
I haven’t been keeping track of the reworks

[dull heart]

As for healing potion and grapple related effects, I can't think of a good way to have generation AND consumption effects related to them that make sense to be on one accessory

[calm ingot]

I don’t even know how starbursts work at all tbh

[fathom girder]

Maybe somethin' with philosopher's stone?

[dull heart]

Every Stratus item has a way to generate and consume starbursts

[fathom girder]

idk starbursts are rather vague. could do near anything with consuming em imo

[calm ingot]

Maybe you get increased pickup range for them like heartreach if that’s even how they work

[dull heart]

Starbursts are basically a shared set resource

[pulsar cobalt]

doing things with stratus items generate starbursts (usually attacking i think)

[dull heart]

They don't have pickups

for example:

• Halley's Inferno generates starbursts by hitting enemies without missing. Right click consumes starbursts to rapid fire them like Mario Galaxy starbits

[dusk bronze]

they're like fairy boot fairies but you gain and spend them through all items

[dull heart]

• Sirius generates starbursts passively when near an enemy. It consumes 50 automatically when full to launch a quasar

[pulsar cobalt]

im banning you from making analogies again

[dull heart]

Not a great analogy bc fairies there are entirely passive

It's like Ark charges but shared between the entire set

kinda

that's the closest example I can think of

[dusk bronze]

i've never used fairy boots

[dull heart]

Crescent Moon generates Starbursts while spinning, can consume 20 starbursts to shatter the flail into a constellation

The only "passive" effect of Starburst is Stratus Sphere right click (gives you a barrier that causes you to lose Starbursts instead of health when hit) and Sirius (it's just basically active but instead it activates automatically when full)

Can think of starbursts almost like a Mana system in an RPG where you restore Mana by hitting enemies or certain items and can consume it for strong spells

[buoyant pulsar]

i should do a playthrough of calamity where i only uses usestyle1 swords that shoot projectiles

[calm ingot]

Oh it’s silk/soul

That’s all you had to say

[dull heart]

Yes that's a good example

[dusk bronze]

hell torture

[dull heart]

it's like silk or soul in HK games

[fathom girder]

Great minds think alike

[vast ferry]

MP in Kingdom Hearts 1

[fathom girder]

only good games have mechanics like that

[dull heart]

Calamity finally good

[vast ferry]

Hitting enemies restores MP in that.

[dull heart]

yeah

[vast ferry]

but only Kingdom Hearts 1

[dull heart]

Lots of RPGs like that

[fathom girder]

2.1 adding silk AND a better fishing minigame???

calamity is saved

[vast ferry]

And the ability to place hostile turrets

We can make torture chambers.

[fathom girder]

uh-

I mean

[fallen flame]

Calamity playthrough but I can only use Muramasa

[fathom girder]

not uh. EXACTLY what I was thinking but

[orchid finch]

Are they adding a song tho

[fathom girder]

idk I'm not a dev

[vast ferry]

Now here's my question @dull heart will we be able to use the turrets as weaponry via wiring or something?

[calm ingot]

Just name the character jetstream Sam

Did that get patched out

Idk

[fathom girder]

muramasa

[calm ingot]

Oh I can’t read

[vast ferry]

They removed that.

[fathom girder]

ain't that the blue one

[vast ferry]

Yup

[fathom girder]

lmao

I mean honestly not the worst until post ML

[vast ferry]

it's also the name of the guy who forged it too

[calm ingot]

I also have dementia apparently

[fathom girder]

I'm sure Yardis could do it

[buoyant pulsar]

Calamity playthrough but I can only use Muramasa

[orchid finch]

Can you upgrade it tho

[calm ingot]

If people can beat calamity without weapons they can probably beat it with a muramasa

[distant raft]

ngl weaponless is free once you know the route

ugc with stealth into wof and ds

then slagsplitter and deep diver to golem and pbg

[dusk bronze]

ugc?

[calm ingot]

Granite core

[still bluff]

Granite core

[distant raft]

unstable granite core

[dusk bronze]

ah

mandatory shrines

[distant raft]

you can also rox shimmer for early slagsplitter

[buoyant pulsar]

darklight greatsword is the only sword that just shoots a projectile that i like

[calm ingot]

I will not stand for terratomere slander

[fathom girder]

free nuke

[buoyant pulsar]

i wish it did a little more than that but i rlly like the projectile a lot for what it is

could use a teensy bit more interesting gameplay

[inner timber]

dont you not get enough essence

[pulsar cobalt]

me when the challenge run is

[distant raft]

oh right

[inner timber]

iirc rox gives 5 and slag needs 8

[distant raft]

2 rox shimmer

ah ha ha

[inner timber]

just lava crabulon for the guy

the guy man

fungal clump

[calm ingot]

What about the hat thingy from deerclops

Does calamity make it actually despawn when you die

[inner timber]

she despawns in cal iirc yeah

otherwise free with amidas spark and shit

[dull heart]

What turrets

[vast ferry]

The ones being added as a recipe

[dull heart]

You already can make ones that work as weapons

[vast ferry]

It's in changelogs

[pulsar cobalt]

hostile turrets attack players not enemies

[dull heart]

This just lets you craft the version that spawns naturally and attacks players

[vast ferry]

wait I didn't know this

OH I'M DUMB

but yeah player killing turrets as a feature would just be a fun thing that could help people make fun challenges

And now we don't need cheat sheet to do it

[stuck kite]

yeah its just letting people make silly stuff or challenge maps without cheats thing

[fathom girder]

Terraria but every tile has a sentry on it

[wise bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-tf2-evaporation-evaporate-evaporated-team-fortress-2-gif-3601728232153696258

[placid kite]

If I were to open a world rn would I need to open a new one to play the update

[amber egret]

Update is Not Out

but Yes. You'd Need a New World Since New Structure

[placid kite]

I see

[orchid finch]

So true...

[limber wren]

U know what? If BS is coming out in January/February, there is a 2.17% chance it will drop today, January 13th.

[dull heart]

for all content yes, but it's just a couple structures

so you can be fine

[lapis oak]

why would you not start a new world anyways

[solar hare]

maybe its not a new playthrough

[placid kite]

wdym

[gloomy grove]

usually people scrap existing runs whenever a major update is pushed

[lapis oak]

yeah

especially for this one because new stuff will be all over the places

[modern grove]

The self proclaimed slop monarch

1.4.5 tomorrow

[dry whale]

when the brain is storming

Tomorrow will be another day.

[modern grove]

I forgot that people have arachnophobia maybe I shouldn't have posted that

[wicked temple]

spoiler it maybe

[modern grove]

I'm desensitized to almost everything and I forgot that people can fear images

[modern grove]

No point to it's not a real spoiler I'm just posting whatever

Sunken sea overhaul spoiler

[dry whale]

pee

[wicked temple]

b

[lusty orchid]

[modern grove]

I disagree

[wicked temple]

the biome

from mars

[modern grove]

They should add martians 2

[orchid finch]

Fuck removing buffed events

Let's add more

Sorry for c*rsing

[modern grove]

Martians empowered by distortion creatures

The distortlings

[orchid finch]

Distortians

[blazing field]

feed us we are the distortlings

[orchid finch]

Me when I catch a distortling

[frozen shore]

The last note on the changelogs for the update should be "Removed Fogbound" just like mojang removes Herobrine every update 🥹

[placid kite]

i still didnt play calamity so idk

i played a bit up to cryogen like a year ago

[modern grove]

Added The Fetus

[modern grove]

I am the sealed rift
I am the cast aside weaver
I am the devil from the Bible

The distortion brothers

[plush carbon]

• Achieved the Ultimate Calamity Style

[blazing field]

Heyyy statis

its meeee

[plush carbon]

Da devillll

[hushed hazel]

Whaaaaaat’s uuuuuuuuuuup

[blazing field]

ngl signus even sorta looks like black doom

that was his name right

mr devil from bible

i forgot what his actual canon name is he's just devil from bible to me

[lapis oak]

the bible's devil

[vivid hemlock]

egregious memory

[vivid hemlock]

you are a demon

[modern grove]

The demon of Babylon

[lapis oak]

you will play RLCraft with me

[vivid hemlock]

nope

[lean relic]

mmm

[native thistle]

If you ain't playing, pass the ball

[pulsar cobalt]

yes

[cunning sequoia]

i like how he named his army the black arms and they're more like green and red

[blazing field]

the green and red arms dosen't sound as cool

[lean relic]

kiri wanna suffer with me in gregtech

[lapis oak]

no I think Gregtech is boring

[orchid finch]

hi Kiri

I am adding a proton into you

[lapis oak]

😠

[modern grove]

Proton inside me

[steady sun]

What if we turn kiri into a single proton instead

[hollow harness]

the sole hydrogen nucleus with its only electron

[kindred night]

army named black arms.. like an army in black...

[hard hearth]

greg

[sinful dagger]

Doing a vanilla Master Mode playthrough

Moon Lord’s much harder than in Calamity, why did they nerf him?

[orchid finch]

#calamity-mod-talk

[distant raft]

not that he's nerfed

its that youre buffed

also you have the free win button (betsy wings and insignia) in vanilla

[twin juniper]

True eye laser tho

[sinful dagger]

Mainly the mini lasers after the eyes come off got removed in Calamity, also maybe I’m imagining it but I think there’s more homing bolts

Also I’m aware of the asphalt + chlorophyte bullet cheese but I was trying to beat him normally

[dense sundial]

it is also that calamity nerfs moon lord

in rev, anyway

[sinful dagger]

Are the mini death rays re-added in death mode?

[orchid finch]

why are we still here?

this is update talk

[lean relic]

this is a place for discussing spoilers and future updates

[sinful dagger]

Yeah yeah ok

No memes in general chat

[hollow harness]

gazillions must abide by the rules

[fathom girder]

Millions must calamity update talk

[modern grove]

billions must endanger enraged parasitic cuckoo wasps

[orchid finch]

thousands must give me a quarter of a cent

[dull heart]

hi

[orchid finch]

so I'd get brainstorm and then donate the rest to a charity

hi doze

[distant raft]

no thanks man

[orchid finch]

aw :(

[dull heart]

everyone should give me $1

[orchid finch]

true...

[dull heart]

i should look into commissioning a sprite for my dev vanity hmm

[limber wren]

You HAVE to ask Triangle, his pixel art is always amazing. Have you seen his Resource Pack for Vanilla? He is gifted, and I love it. Also, he is like the Cal armor spriter as far as I understand (ofc he has done way more, but I really love and live for the armor concepts he makes), so it would also fit very fricking nice.

[orchid finch]

cough cough

they're both cal devs

[vivid hemlock]

[modern grove]

who's triangle

[summer shore]

throudangle

[modern grove]

this sounds inappropriate

[versed heart]

I wonder how Calamity in 1.4.5's Skyblock worlds might be

[modern grove]

ravageous

[wide wadi]

When is terraira update going to release

[dense sundial]

january or february

[wide wadi]

1.4.5 taking forever

Re logic said by end of December to Jan

[dense sundial]

right, i forgor

[hollow harness]

1.4.5 next week

[wide wadi]

1.4.5 tomorrow

[hardy gulch]

r/calamitymod is down the hall and to the left

[summer shore]

Qhar

❓

[wide wadi]

Are you a calamity

Because I’m trying to brimestone Krige ya

[hardy gulch]

what

[hushed hazel]

what

[hardy gulch]

no im not a cal dev or john calamity

[plucky basin]

yo what do i do if i lowk beat most of the bosses but solyn hasnt appeared and now i have a huge vortex in the back of my world lol

[wide wadi]

My joke flew over everyone’s head

[wide wadi]

Ohhh

[plucky basin]

am i cookafied

[wide wadi]

Solyn shows up after skeletons defer

Defeat

[plucky basin]

i think

i am cooked

[wide wadi]

Yeah buddy

[plucky basin]

if i kill clothier with voodoo

do u think it wld work

[wide wadi]

Idk you can try

[plucky basin]

fuh bro

[wide wadi]

At that point just use a cheat code to spawn her in

[dense sundial]

#calamity-addon-talk

[plucky basin]

idk any of that 💔

[cerulean rivet]

..

[hot knot]

[hollow harness]

[hushed hazel]

this explains nothing

you're going in the hole

[tacit juniper]

ello

what are the stuff expected in the new update

[hasty tangle]

#spoilers #changelogs

[tacit juniper]

ty

[pseudo vector]

also the website in #mod-announcements

[stray hull]

what hole

[hushed hazel]

the hole

[stray hull]

oh the hole

but im already here

theres no enough place

[hardy gulch]

you know who else is going in the hole

snowfall

[hot knot]

[tropic folio]

is it worth it to start a terraria playthru or wait until update,i know both of them will get updated soon

[amber egret]

its All Good Man

[vestal osprey]

Wait for a terraria playthrough on general

1.4.5 is around the corner

[tropic folio]

what about calamity?

@vestal osprey

[grave geyser]

also getting updated soon

[vestal osprey]

Coming out around the same time of everything goes planned

[tropic folio]

i have the terraria itch ive been waiting to start a new playthru for a while

[placid kite]

From what I understand as long as 1.4.5 doesn't come out calamity doesn't too

[fathom girder]

They're entirely disconnected

2.1 will release whenever it's done

[potent scroll]

do not place solyn's camp close to your base 💔

[potent scroll]

also start over

you skip the mod's content 99%

[plucky basin]

lowk bro i used herod mod to spawn her back in

but imma js start a new one anyways

imma try hardmode

infernum

[potent scroll]

eternity kinda harder than infernum in my opinion but yeah play with infernum

[potent scroll]

and please do it

[plucky basin]

bet im a lil new but ive played risk of rain and stuff so im not too shit if i think infernum is still light ill try eternity

[plucky basin]

i was just following the bosses on that😭

old world so i didnt even know abt solyn til i saw the wiki

[potent scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/solyn-wrath-of-the-gods-my-beloved-gif-8500053100306829369

oh and take tip

you going to be grateful for my advice

as i mentioned do not place solyn camp close to your base

when she will ask you to place down her camp

[plucky basin]

why where should i put it

ngl its like

[potent scroll]

away from your base, i dont want to spoiler

[plucky basin]

touching my base💀

ill move it

[potent scroll]

its not going to destroy or touch your base at all

its has different reasons

[plucky basin]

alright

ill put her one biome away

and put shellphone there

[potent scroll]

also if you know nothing really about the mod dont look up for any video that has spoiler

[plucky basin]

i dont, if i need something i read wiki and if really necessary i ask here or reddit and usually get somethig

[potent scroll]

you will not have to look up for wiki very much expect the collecting books, solyn and the prgoress will explain everything

[plucky basin]

bet

im probably gonna make a new character too and progress murasama from beginning

[potent scroll]

thats fair

[plucky basin]

i was running halibut cannon on that world

i got her when fishing

somehow

[halcyon seal]

tip: dont use murasama

or overhaul in general

[thick locust]

Can’t believe they’re adding bladee, never expected that

[halcyon seal]

i am playing overhaul right now and that mod is Not good

its buggy, unpolished, steals from other mods, and also it can corrupt your world

[potent scroll]

my experience is overhaul is maybe gives you crit on melee but you completely locked out from using the biome sword and the gore and blood is really annoying because its not dissapears by itself

[mystic eagle]

Disable calamity overhaul

[halcyon seal]

oh im talking about calamity overhaul, not terraria overhaul

terraria overhaul is a good but incompatible mod with calamity

[potent scroll]

nobody mentioned which one overhaul 😔

but nvm i never tried calamity overhaul but the opinions i heard they all says its a horrible mod

[halcyon seal]

fun fact: you need 22 million auric ore for its endgame

yes million

[misty wren]

its incompatible with most things

[potent scroll]

noway

we cant be serious, im in pain when i have to collect just 1k

[distant raft]

i dont even think 10k spawns in a world

[halcyon seal]

i am dead serious

22 million

i counted because i didnt believe it

now tbf, overhaul DOES add a mining machine! so you should only need several hundred of those

btw theres a power system and i dont know why

nothing anywhere explains it, and anywhere that could is probably in chinese anyways

[distant raft]

it wants to be a factorio flavoured minecraft modpack so bad

[halcyon seal]

anyways instead of overhaul lets talk about something good

like fate/strange fake

god i love strange fake so fucking much its so good

watch that immediately

[potent scroll]

so its just add the generic minecraft modpack endgame ah

you need 43 trillion from everything

[halcyon seal]

yeah but the difference is, a well designed modpack usually has like

actually good options to get that much stuff

or you need to be creative in some way

yk like actual game design

overhaul just says "guhhhh 500 machine also your pipes can barely power 5 at a time so no centralized power"

[potent scroll]

yeah i never gonna try it

its horrid

[rose laurel]

Question

How many of you guys know that, in Calamity, Pillars have unique sets of enemies for every 25 enemies killed?

[vestal osprey]

The lunar pillars?

[distant raft]

i know this and i dont like it because it makes farming specific ones really hard

[vestal osprey]

Im gonna be completly honest

[misty wren]

i dont know what other pillars it would be referring to

[vestal osprey]

I thought that was a vanilla feature

[vestal osprey]

Dont they all have the same drops?

[misty wren]

in theory

[distant raft]

i dont think crawltipedes drop corite banners

[misty wren]

in practice sometimes you want to farm specific banners

[vestal osprey]

Oh the banners

I was just thinking the fragments

[hushed hazel]

i do actually remember this now that you mention it

[rose laurel]

I'm asking this because I also want to know if anyone on this planet actually thinks it's a good change

And no, you disliking the Pillars and wanting them to be easier is not good reasoning

[calm ingot]

I think it’s a pointless change but I don’t really care either way

[vestal osprey]

Honestly unless your a banner farmer your probably not gonna notice it

And if you are your gonna hate it

[arctic cliff]

wait, so it actually just causes types of enemies to only start spawning every 25 enemies killed?

[distant raft]

i think the slurry of everything all the time makes it harder

[arctic cliff]

well this is just unnecessary and UNCOMMUNICATED

[rose laurel]

Yeah obviously Cal's version is easier

[vestal osprey]

I get the idea, make the pillars harder over time

[rose laurel]

Also that's not the case

[arctic cliff]

if it were more explicit, like there was a clear system of waves that can be viewed

then ya

[rose laurel]

It doesn't add new enemies

There are specific sets of enemies

And they change every 25 kills

Crawltipedes only show up in 1 of the 5 Solar Pillar sets btw

[arctic cliff]

but as of now, it feels like an unnecessary change to terraria that probably should just be outright removed

[rose laurel]

Yes there are 5 because there's one for after you destroy the shield

[vestal osprey]

Then... what was the purpose initally?

[arctic cliff]

and also yeah CRAWLTIPEDES? NOT SHOWING UP for the majority of Solar Pillar?

[rose laurel]

Probably another one of Fab's hate changes that were made under the guise of making the game "better"

[arctic cliff]

they're annoying as fuck but they dont deserve this

[misty wren]

i was wondering why they never showed up

[arctic cliff]

yeah

[rose laurel]

Me when I remove the entire gimmick of the Solar Pillar

[misty wren]

i knew cal had something with waves during pillars i just didnt realize crawltipedes just didnt fucking spawn

[flat folio]

Yeah, it was a Fab change

[vestal osprey]

Honestly sounds like fab raged at crawdepides cause everyone thinks theyre the hardest thing ever for some reason

[distant raft]

basically removes crawltipedes from solar pillar but makes a boss thats just a big crawltipede

[young notch]

Said gimmick sucked anyway

[rose laurel]

They only spawn between 25 - 1 kills

[arctic cliff]

I don't MIND the idea of making pillars have waves but this aint a way to implement that

[hollow harness]

was it also changed for other pillars as well

[rose laurel]

Yeah

[flat folio]

Yes

[vestal osprey]

Yes but the solar is most noticeable

[flat folio]

The nebula brain things swarm you in the 25-1 kill range iirc

[hollow harness]

oughhh

[arctic cliff]

no wonder why the pillars felt off

egughy

jrgakelrg

[rose laurel]

It's not that bad, infact I really like it because it actually changes combat a lot

[arctic cliff]

gakjegjwrk

[misty wren]

said gimmick half sucked but at least it had a gimmick to speak of rather than every pillar being homogenous sludge

[hollow harness]

if like, the stardust pillar in vanilla wasn't easy enough then in cal its like ultra piss easy

[rose laurel]

The Problem isn't with the gimmick, it's that Solar Pillar enemies are just

Really Strong

[calm ingot]

Goes on to make dog copy its ai

[young notch]

YES

[vestal osprey]

Crawdepides are the only enemy where you need to actively think hard of your placement instead of "kill everything that moves"

[young notch]

The other solar pillar enemies charge at you at mach fuck

[rose laurel]

Solar Pillar enemies dish out pretty ludicrous amounts of damage and all of them (specially Corites) move incredibly fast

[young notch]

Good luck dodging all that horizontally

[arctic cliff]

my reaction to that statement

[vestal osprey]

What i mean is Yong around in circles generally tends to do the trick on the pillars

[misty wren]

with waves existing it removes the overarching gimmicks of a pillar so they all feel identical to fight against

[calm ingot]

Am I weird for finding stardust the hardest

[vestal osprey]

Crawdepides completly destroy that strategy

[vestal osprey]

Nebula is the one I find hardest

Getting snipped by lasers that do 400 damage

[young notch]

Nah, all pillars have something bitch-made about them

[vestal osprey]

Even vortex?

[arctic cliff]

yes

[young notch]

Even vortex

[amber egret]

coffee bean haired claptrap pyramid

[arctic cliff]

especially in calamity for some reason

[rose laurel]

I love the Pillars gimmicks because they're like

[vestal osprey]

I dont really see anyone complain about that one

[misty wren]

they werent particularly different in vanilla but at least i can tell when im fighting each individual pillar

[hollow harness]

vortex has enemies that inflict distorted which can be really awful to deal with

[young notch]

This

[amber egret]

Gravity Normalizer Potion my Behearted

[calm ingot]

Lucille make wrath of the moon and turn the pillars into actually good events thanks

[hollow harness]

idc about potions this is vanilla behaviour

[arctic cliff]

alien larva rapidly becoming alien queens in 2 seconds and then constantly spawning so much more that it just becomes a rush to get banners from them

[hollow harness]

oh and also that

[vestal osprey]

I actually have a fun idea of how that could work

[rose laurel]

Solar - You can't fly, all enemies are ground-based and very aggressive
Vortex - Enemies are meant to swarm you and get out of control, with Distorted being how they finish you off
Stardust - Uuuuuuh
Nebula - Fuck you

[hollow harness]

nebula has the brain teleports which are awful because they can just hit you from nowhere

stardust only has that one enemy that shoots projectiles when hit

and its the easiest by far

[young notch]

Stardust enemies hit deceptively hard

[lyric trellis]

Glad to see the last 2 are well defined

[misty wren]

stardusts gimmick is that enemies tend to spawn shitlings when you kill them

[hollow harness]

true but its compensated by the fact they're like piss easy to deal with

[rose laurel]

Yeah but then

[hollow harness]

you go with an aoe weapon at that stage

[calm ingot]

Stardust gimmicks is that the worms come through the ground in all directions at 100mph and one tap you in gfb

Ask me how I know

[rose laurel]

Vortex already does that

So

[vestal osprey]

Stardust is pure enemy spam, if you dont got good piercing your in for a hell of a time

[rose laurel]

????

[arctic cliff]

thats like one set of enemies

[rose laurel]

Queen Wasps are like

[misty wren]

no vortex has a constant stream of new enemies that are always spawning stardust only spawns new enemies on kill

[rose laurel]

Half of the Vortex roster

[hollow harness]

not having piercing at that stage is unlikely because all classes have something AoE at that point

[vestal osprey]

Yeah

[calm ingot]

I forgot vortex applies distorted I always have gravity normalizer on

[young notch]

“Man, that pillar spams way more enemies than mine…”
“Holy shit, two enemy spammers!”

[calm ingot]

[rose laurel]

Either way point is that both of them have the "overwhelm the player" gimmick and Vortex does it way better so Stardust just has nothing

[calm ingot]

Actually never mind vortex sucks the most

No pun intended

[arctic cliff]

okay so 5 out of 7 enemies in stardust are either minions or create minions

[hollow harness]

like after plantera you get so many AoE weapons like rockets, the glorious duke fishron tome weapon, melee has terra blade, summoner has whips that have like the least piercing damage fall off

[arctic cliff]

but they're still more distinct than vortex having either humanoids or bugs

[hollow harness]

morning star my beloved

[vestal osprey]

Instead of 4 separate pillars, there should just be a mega pillar that you can go inside like a dungeon, there traverse your way to the top fighting through all sorts of enemies. At the top you find a celestial sigil.

[misty wren]

i find that stardust enemies also tend to hit you a lot less but for a lot more damage

[rose laurel]

Anyways and then of course Nebula doesn't even really have a gimmick it's just

Fuck you

[hollow harness]

vortex pillar millenarian strategy if you were playing melee is getting into a 2x3 space and using a yoyo

[misty wren]

nebulas gimmick is that everything keeps fucking teleporting and you cant see shit

[rose laurel]

Here's an enemy that telefrags you

Here's an enemy that blinds you

[young notch]

It’s not even that I find Stardust difficult, but again, all pillars have something bitch-made about them

[calm ingot]

Idk how you can make fighting waves of enemies fun in this game to be honest

[rose laurel]

Here's an enemy that spawns an unkillable projectiles that for some fucking reason doesn't despawn when you kill it

[young notch]

Stardust enemies can hit hard and hit fast

[arctic cliff]

i think it is a gimmick really

even if its just the most blatantly infuriating one

[hollow harness]

I usually leave solar for last

for solar I think it really depends on where it spawns

[young notch]

Are they overwhelming compared to the other pillars? Not really. But I get hit by a lot more stray projectiles in Stardust than the others :p

[vestal osprey]

Wait... theres no meld summon weapon

[misty wren]

good keep it that way

[hollow harness]

if you have dogshit battle grounds (like if you have to fly a lot to move) for solar you're fucked

[young notch]

Yeah no, @fossil skiff please don’t post risque stuff like that, especially if it doesn’t pertain to the channel

[fossil skiff]

Daw

[young notch]

:p

[amber egret]

they spawn Fourty Billion Fucking Leeches

[lusty orchid]

Hello

Wrong chat

:p

[modern grove]

They should

[winter kiln]

with these upcoming changes i feel like everclear is the only alcohol I'd really use consistently (since it basically just has the vanilla alcohol effect)

[dusk bronze]

cinnamon roll is goated trust

turns every ram into deep diver

margarita is also really good if you don't care about inflicting debuffs

[winter kiln]

or more like the old fabsol's vodka effect

[dusk bronze]

white wine also good for true melee

[vestal osprey]

I just realized

With the statis blessing being changed to be sentry, does that mean the nucleogenesis id changing

[dusk bronze]

sentinel's blessing isn't in brainstorm

they have to drag it out of the github merge abyss

[vestal osprey]

I think thats probably coming in the big summoner rework in sso part 2

[dusk bronze]

summoner rework is probably gonna be a separate update iirc

byeah that's where it'd be

[polar tide]

margarita + tequila sunrise is so fucking yum

[pulsar cobalt]

sentinels blessing wont be part of nucleogenesis

[winter kiln]

I'm too scared to try true melee

[vestal osprey]

What will be of the statis curse then

[lapis oak]

the predecessor

[hard copper]

Yeah margarita is underrated, I use it until post Provi often

Oh you prob mean the new ones

[polar tide]

im talking about brainstorm margarita i dont evne remmber what it does in public build lol

yeah

[hard copper]

Is natural regen even that good?

[halcyon seal]

Damn margarita looks STRONG

[vestal osprey]

What does margaritas do?

[dusk bronze]

chart in #spoilers

[vestal osprey]

Half the debuff duration

[winter kiln]

oh wow

[vestal osprey]

How many alcohols can you use at once?

[hasty tangle]

still 3

[distant raft]

all of them if youve got The Method

[strong isle]

Nebula is "don't let them get near"

It is the superior Pillar

Just like Mage is the superior class

😉

[vestal osprey]

Mage is 2nd worst class

[strong isle]

That's what the gun salesmen want you to think....

[autumn pollen]

melee gang 🔥

[dusk bronze]

everything you just said is wrong

[strong isle]

https://tenor.com/view/make-spells-not-war-spells-wizard-shadow-wizard-money-gang-warlock-gif-7434816915014479954

[vestal osprey]

Let the guns salesman k ow that ranger is THE worst class

[strong isle]

Now that I agree with

[fierce hearth]

I just found out for no reason I can understand I had the spoiler channel completely hidden

[hot knot]

welcome there's no turning back now

wait

you meant the announcement channel didn't you

[misty wren]

no they probably meant #spoilers

seeing as its not visible by default

[hot knot]

that's what i meant as the announcement channel

i see then

[vestal osprey]

If they do go the route of making all the bosses have thier own unique health bar color then I hope the exo mechs take inspiration of Lucille to make the exo mechs health bar a rainbow gradiant

[polar tide]

never let them tell you that you're wrong for this. they hate you for speaking the truth.

[distant raft]

mage is the strongest class by far if you don't ignore the star rod shaped blue whale in the room

[autumn compass]

Art Attack is my goat

It's so peak for crowd control

If you try to use it for bossing then you're using it wrong

[distant raft]

use it for weaver p2 obv

[limber wren]

Quick question: what is "Legendary Weapons"? Like FtW/Death Weapons or new tiers of Weapons? I'm really confused with that from de unofficial doc. Even Heroic Damage is a easier concept.

[distant raft]

old series of weapons that were insanely rare drops from certain bosses and scaled throughout progression

[dusk bronze]

the term "legendary" is pretty archaic by now

most of them are 10% drops from bosses

[vestal osprey]

Are they the drops that randomly have only 10%chance drop rate

[dusk bronze]

like blossom flux, pristine fury, malachite

[vestal osprey]

Old reaper my beloved

[dusk bronze]

yes but only some of them are considered legendary

apparently

[lyric trellis]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Legendary_items

All these + Old Reaper yes

[vestal osprey]

Is every boss gonna get one at some point?

[lyric trellis]

Most famously, in 2017 they used to drop from anything at an extremely low chance and scaled throughout progression, but that has been dead for several years and now they are just 10% drops from their respective bosses (used to be 1% before 1.5)

[distant raft]

halibut was a rare drop from anything in the sulphur sea or below, with the rate increasing the further down you went

[calm ingot]

Unless you coldheart icicled Jared as soon as you beat cryogen

[limber wren]

I was asking some things and you solved my questions. Nice.
On the other hand, what are they for? I suppose they deal more damage, but... What if only one class benefits from it after a specific boss? Does that class become "the best" for that progression point?

[lapis oak]

no why would they

[vestal osprey]

Cause they seem to only come from bosses

[calm ingot]

After legendary drops got removed they were changed to malice mode only and dropped from bosses

[lapis oak]

even then why would every bosses drop Legendary items?

[calm ingot]

Once malice was removed they became what they are now

When malice was around yes they were all insanely powerful

[vestal osprey]

Consistently

[distant raft]

iirc theyre being made into normal weapons

[calm ingot]

Actually that’s a good question

[distant raft]

no longer 10% drops

[calm ingot]

That’s what I was gonna ask

Why haven’t they done that yet

[distant raft]

legendary degradation patch

[lyric trellis]

Probably yes, but they’re rare for a reason so if you want the (intended) best weapon in progression then you’ll have to grind for it eventually they’ll be made into being more interesting than 10% drops but so far only SHPC has gone through with it due to the devs having other priorities

[lapis oak]

I don't see how that's a consistent thing

[calm ingot]

Most of the legendary weapons aren’t good anymore anyway

[distant raft]

community isnt a weapon but it was a legendary and is in fact not good

[calm ingot]

Cosmic discharge is the one good one

[distant raft]

hellborn

[calm ingot]

Pristine fury is alright too I think?

[distant raft]

wait no that was malice

[calm ingot]

I didn’t see it listed there

Yea

[distant raft]

malachite i think was really good?

[calm ingot]

It used to be

[distant raft]

now iirc its just pretty good

[calm ingot]

Well they all used to be but malachite was good not too long ago

[distant raft]

B tier yeah

[calm ingot]

Idk what happened to it, people were glazing it and now nobody seems to care