calamity-update-talk

[fathom girder]

we'll be FREE

[dull heart]

no you won't

[fathom girder]

damn you

[rancid pagoda]

it's still extremely good

[strong isle]

Reddit was funny today

"HOW DARE you tiershift Cosmolight and not give us a way to refight bosses?"
The suspiciously Bakidon-shaped object in question:

[rancid pagoda]

I believe they call it "getting one-guy'd"

one guy says something and nobody checks the validity

[wicked halo]

You should probably tell them about the Bakidon.

[pulsar cobalt]

he has

[strong isle]

I have

[lavish otter]

Out of curiosity, doesn't Bakidon just freeze time?

[wicked halo]

O.

[pulsar cobalt]

yea

[strong isle]

Yep

[pulsar cobalt]

for a long time

[wicked halo]

Yes. Which is still very convenient.

[rancid pagoda]

freezing time literally better than skipping ahead

[strong isle]

Debatable

[lavish otter]

So I guess when it comes to refighting bosses, maybe they mean without the use of a spawn item

[pulsar cobalt]

i mean its technically a buff to challenge runs

[young notch]

Assuming you can even define how skipping ahead works

[pulsar cobalt]

they have 30 minutes for sprime instead of uhh

10 or whatever it was

[young notch]

Millions must explain King Crimson

[rancid pagoda]

people need to brush up their vanilla knowledge

[grave rock]

?

[lavish otter]

Which I think it's reasonable to expect you to have one if you want to consistently refight a boss, but at least it'd explain how the Bakidon wouldn't really solve that issue

[wicked halo]

Cosmolight will be retiered to post-Astrum Deus.

In it's place there is the Bakidon.

[pulsar cobalt]

it just works

[strong isle]

For context, Bakidon is a time-stop item that covers most of Cosmolight's uses

[wicked halo]

Which freezes time.

[strong isle]

^

[grave rock]

what would stop giving ppl a way to refight bosses

[rancid pagoda]

also, journey mode exists

[wicked halo]

I mean with how some mfs treat Terraria as a boss rush they should just.

[pulsar cobalt]

i might make a post on journey mode being the ultimate qol

[wicked halo]

Play Journey Mode.

[pulsar cobalt]

because uhh

what cant journey mode do

[rancid pagoda]

but apparently journey mode is somehow tainting their legitimacy

[strong isle]

Tiershifting Cosmolight without adding Bakidon would make it so people would have to wait for another night to refight nighttime bosses, hence limiting how much they can be refought back-to-back

I should've elaborated

[rancid pagoda]

too many bosses are nighttime only anyway

[fathom girder]

Bakidon will also be useful for moon events

peeps be whinin' over NOTHIN'

[pulsar cobalt]

true it will make the moon events easier

[wicked halo]

They whined over the Hellborn rework.

Like dawg.

[rancid pagoda]

like, they don't even complain about the bosses being night time only, just that you can't skip to night time as easily now, really attacking the wrong problem there

[lavish otter]

It can't be used during moon events, I'm pretty sure

[fathom girder]

They'll whine about everything

cringe ass nae nae babies over at the red nation

[strong isle]

I wish Calamity hadn't filled the game with QoL meant to make vanilla mechanics irrelevant in the past, it makes our current design philosophy of moderate QoL seem like an endless stream of nerfs
This outrage is only happening because those items came to be in the first place

[wicked halo]

They changed a boring stat stick weapon into a sick ass pseudo-melee gun.

[dull heart]

we also made only mechs and empress need night for anything post-wof

[strong isle]

Well

[dull heart]

which is like

a huge notable thing

[rancid pagoda]

it is better for the mod, I appreciate it

[strong isle]

Empress has a little surprise when the sun rises

[grave rock]

REAL

[dull heart]

literally half the amount of bosses that need night to fight

[grave rock]

calamity players have it too good

[fathom girder]

Empress nukes the world and you have to restart if it becomes daytime

[cunning sequoia]

yeah but its positive so nobody cares about it

[wicked halo]

I remember playing Calamity back in 2017.

[cunning sequoia]

the only changes that matter are nerfs

[wicked halo]

I remember the hit limit for Calamitas.

[cunning sequoia]

and therefore, the only thing calamity has done for 4 years is nerfs

[wicked halo]

That was fucking painful.

[lavish otter]

Honestly, agreed here! I'm someone that's argued in favor of keeping some QoL things, but I realize that's mostly just because of how much it can suck for something to be removed after being implemented in the first place, since I wouldn't have advocated for it being added if it wasn't already

[cunning sequoia]

that makes sense right

[lyric trellis]

Certainly wouldn’t say it’s currently just a stat stick weapon but the rework is good

[grave rock]

every so often every calamity player should play vanilla and see just how good they have it tbh

[dull heart]

it's so funny how one argument i keep seeing is literally solved by vanilla game

(which is blood moon/eclipses being annoying)

[wide nova]

the calamity code has nerfs written for items not even in the game yet

we r ahead of the game

[grave rock]

the sundial in my pocket:

[dull heart]

true i am already planning to nerf yharim's melee drop

[wicked halo]

I mean I hate fishing so I rarely ever have a Sundial.

[pulsar cobalt]

does sundial even say it can be used to skip blood moon and eclipse anywhere

[grave rock]

it should

[dull heart]

good thing 2.1 is making fishing better too!

[grave rock]

it doesnt tho

[lyric trellis]

Spawn-killing the 1.4.5 whips true

[strong isle]

I rarely get Sundials as well

But like

[dull heart]

sundial is also required to craft cosmolight now

[grave rock]

REAL

FISHING WARRIORS RISE UP

[pulsar cobalt]

wait isnt sundial an angler quest item in cal

[grave rock]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[wicked halo]

Oh perfect.

[strong isle]

It's not that big of a deal and it's a healthier balance

[dusk bronze]

yep

[lavish otter]

Kind of surprised it already wasn't

[wide nova]

the calamity redneck update

[dull heart]

like almost every backlash to a change made is entirely because a change ignores the larger context

[strong isle]

Oh man I wonder how people will react to that

[rancid pagoda]

somehow they don't know the dials reset when the events happen

[dull heart]

they'll get over it

[pulsar cobalt]

watch people be outraged at this even tho fargos requires you to get two of them for its time skip item

[rancid pagoda]

granted, that was a change that happened after those items were added

[grave rock]

i want to remind everyone that herb bags can be shimmered into worms if u need lots of bait quickly

[fathom girder]

but how can I make potions

[arctic cliff]

oh for

the love of

[fathom girder]

I don't wanna like

[arctic cliff]

god

[lavish otter]

And I also don't think it's stated in game, you just have to figure it out

[fathom girder]

play the game

to get the herbs

[dull heart]

i want to tell everyone that the first bobber obtainable in 2.1 is the Wulfrum Bobber and it's made from wulfrum scrap

[fathom girder]

ugh

[lapis oak]

answer my message

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[dull heart]

the second bobber avaliable isn't even a bobber it's a sinker

[lyric trellis]

Deathweed

[lapis oak]

u are mean

[wide nova]

dirt bober made by dirt an worms

[grave rock]

yay <3 bobbers

[arctic cliff]

-5 electrons for doing this

[wide nova]

consumable yet good

[dull heart]

specifically it's Sunken Sinker

[fathom girder]

does it increase the chance that your line breaks

[strong isle]

Bobber? I hardly know 'er!

[pulsar cobalt]

u dont even know wat he wants from me

[wide nova]

bober

[dull heart]

no but it does increase fishing speed the more consecutive times you win the minigame

[arctic cliff]

it doesnt matter! ya didnt answer da question!

[fathom girder]

oe

[pulsar cobalt]

no its the fishing rod minigames but as an accessory

so u can have it on any rod

[grave rock]

calamity changes angler quests right

[strong isle]

Yes

[pulsar cobalt]

yea

[dull heart]

i think the minigames are on the bobbers only now

[wicked halo]

Fargos is.

[dull heart]

so people can also vanilla fish

[pulsar cobalt]

what the fuck

[wicked halo]

Seemingly exempt from a lot of criticism.

[young notch]

I’m hearing a lot of fishing talk. What are they doing this update 😭

[wide nova]

fargbo is awesome

[fathom girder]

Because fargos is the second coming of christ

[wicked halo]

I remember once playing with Eternity on and the Man Eaters QTE...

[pulsar cobalt]

fishing minigames

[distant raft]

nothing iirc

[fathom girder]

according to the same redditors

[distant raft]

well nothing detrimental

[fathom girder]

it's dumb

[grave rock]

why is fargos so grindy

[dull heart]

best bobber is Feral Bobber though

[distant raft]

its all upsides in caber fishing town

[dull heart]

or Acrobatic Bobber

[wide nova]

enchantments 🔥

[distant raft]

because you don't use the accessories that massively reduce grinding

[dull heart]

Sunken Sinker has the best name though

[wide nova]

The Final Bober

[fathom girder]

SSO is now sunken sinker overhaul

[pulsar cobalt]

can you double check this tho

[wide nova]

should have a bobber thats just a yellow hardhat and crafted with a bunch of builder potions

[pulsar cobalt]

also fun fact hytale tomorrow

[dull heart]

i just did it is true

[lapis oak]

my message, answer it

[dull heart]

fun fact: wulfrum pole can catch some wulfrum items

[arctic cliff]

ANSWER THE QUESTION

[lapis oak]

Drive?

[arctic cliff]

or you will suffer dearly

as did amidias

[dull heart]

i need to add drive and battery to the list but super rare

rn it's only energy core

and scrap

[cunning sequoia]

met bobber

[fathom girder]

Adding drive will be a great idea

[wide nova]

bobber the builder

[fathom girder]

makes it way less of a pain to grab in endgame when you need it to craft

[wide nova]

higher crate chance but gives chance for junk in large bodies of water 🔥

[cunning sequoia]

met

bobber

[wide nova]

him

[grave rock]

can u add abandoned wulfrum helm.....

[cunning sequoia]

isnt that in calval

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[vestal osprey]

New bobbers be bobbing

[grave rock]

yay!

[amber egret]

Wulfrum Battery + Wulfrum Pole should draw More Treasures + Wulfrum Stuff

Thoughts

[dull heart]

1/5 chance for scrap
1/15 chance for core
1/50 chance for other wulfrum item (it then is a 33% chance for each)

in that order

if one of the higher ones succeed it overwrites the lower ones

[grave rock]

hehe my plan has succeeded, rover drive and wulfrum battery are now slightly more rare >:3

[vestal osprey]

So this means I can get wulfrum scraps easier

[arctic cliff]

at this point i have to ask

where does wulfrum come from

[dull heart]

ur mom

[pulsar cobalt]

like irl?

wolfram

[terse dew]

It's true

[rancid pagoda]

so 0.5% to get a specific item from those 3

[vast ferry]

The fact that removing the problem from the mod development results in getting shit done is amazing now.

[terse dew]

the real problem is capitalism I think

[cunning sequoia]

buy calamity plushies

[dull heart]

no its that we don't have more merkaltos

[vast ferry]

Nah that person was absolutely a problem to the mod.

[terse dew]

no capitalism = unlimited calamity mod

[amber egret]

i Did that

[vestal osprey]

All these new ways to get wulfrum means nothing to me cause im a country mode player

[amber egret]

wheres the Lord X image

"I Did That"

[grave rock]

truth nuke

[cunning sequoia]

play my game

[amber egret]

Play My Game

[grave rock]

buy my plushies

[terse dew]

gamerman

[grave rock]

SINISTER MINDS MENTION!!!! WOOO!!!

[cunning sequoia]

play as tails

[grave geyser]

hatred

[arctic cliff]

listen here you little shit. you dare take away my mother's prosthetic hip for creating wulfrum?
to say that you should lose one electron from each of your atoms is not enough. you deserve to have all of the particles that make up each and every one of your atoms turned into their antimatter counterparts.

/s

[dull heart]

antidoze

[arctic cliff]

🔥

[dull heart]

this makes me want to play antichamber again

[grave rock]

decrypt my schematics

[dull heart]

sunken my sea

nerf my crates

[grave rock]

one block is DEAD

[dull heart]

(it's not even dead it's just a little harder)

[grave rock]

look at it...it's dead

[lyric trellis]

Bakidon should be able to change the moon phase!

[grave geyser]

wait true...

[dull heart]

bakidons hould be able to freeze bosses too

[arctic cliff]

inb4 astral overhaul and the entire one block challenge gets nuked because the SINGLE astral dirt block that generates as part of the monolith altar gets removed due to that being reworked

[lapis oak]

How did that even inflated to it being dead

[grave rock]

mfw when i made a worldwide minecart track only to realize the momentum capacitor exists

[desert garnet]

Yt video

I think

[dull heart]

momentum capacitor needs to be retiered or killed tbh

[grave rock]

remove pls

[grave geyser]

because the youtube man said it might become dead eventually in the youtube video
(he spends most of the video saying it currently isnt dead just harder)

[dull heart]

it's a dumb item

i shoule turn it into a weapon

post dog jousting lance

[lapis oak]

Why Momentum is sood by Bandit

[vestal osprey]

I dont even know what the weapon is

[grave geyser]

you should make it into pre rework capacitor

and dont change it at all

[vestal osprey]

Is it a weapon?

[rancid pagoda]

why does bandit sell most of the stuff they sell

[dull heart]

what did it do pre rework

[distant raft]

iirc rogue accessory

[grave geyser]

made an energy field that increased the velocity of rogue projectiles thrown threw it

[dull heart]

peak

[grave rock]

shoutout to old die

[cunning sequoia]

bakidon seems a little weak tbh

you should make it so it can like

change the time of day

when u use it

[pulsar cobalt]

yea

infinitely

that would be so peak

[dull heart]

i want to make old die increase damage variance and make luck effect damage dealt

[cunning sequoia]

true

[distant raft]

kinda like an inbred cousin of quiver of nihility

[dull heart]

i think that it would be very funny

[lapis oak]

So vanilla?

[pulsar cobalt]

is damage variance reduced to 5% dead btw

[dull heart]

like dmg variance from 5% to 50% and is effected by luck

[grave rock]

me and a friend were doing a cal playthrough and she vastly overestimated the combat impact of luck

[grave geyser]

sounds absurdly broken

[placid kite]

Doze you've finished adding everything to the update right it's only bug fixes

[dull heart]

it does literally nothing in calamity combat

[grave rock]

lol really

[dull heart]

technically no there's one item i need to add

[cunning sequoia]

i fucking LOVE gambling

[vestal osprey]

LETS GO GAMBLING

[grave geyser]

like with max luck I'm pretty sure thats an average of like 25% multiplicitive

[rancid pagoda]

noo I needs my 1% damage increase

[placid kite]

oo item

[grave rock]

HAHA
so that garden gnome did fucking nothing thats so funny

[cunning sequoia]

make it work like that one dionysus boon from hades 2 where it only deals 5, 55 or 555 damage

[dull heart]

no it's not, max luck on vanilla damage is like 5% so this would be like 15%

i think

[grave geyser]

15% multi is still broken

[dull heart]

yeah but max luck is stupid hard to get

[rancid pagoda]

and you literally can't reach max luck that easily, takes a lot of effort

[dull heart]

so it's fine

[grave rock]

lucky reforge helps a bit

[grave geyser]

we have lucky reforge yeah

[dull heart]

lucky reforge changing luck would die with that rework ofc

[placid kite]

Crit build?

[grave rock]

just set up a mechanism to drop platinums into the shimmer every so often trust

[dull heart]

50% damage variance just sounds

so funny

[grave geyser]

congrats its zapinator 2

[rancid pagoda]

eh, doesn't even do that much

[dull heart]

zapinator 2 but you can optimize the luck of it

[dull heart]

it does when luck changes dmg rolls

[grave geyser]

chance to deal 10x damage should be affected by luck tbh

[rancid pagoda]

you can get like 0.6 luck on the surface or something

[grave rock]

bundle of balloons new secret dmg accessory 😱

[dull heart]

0.6 is a 60% chance to roll with advantage

[dull heart]

so true

i should make sure moab gives the luck from bohb

[vivid hemlock]

is this the wulfrum bobber or a different one

[rancid pagoda]

and that is with gnomes everywhere and you having sacrificed 1 plat to the shimmer

[dull heart]

ok it does

[dull heart]

different

aerialite

[vivid hemlock]

thumby

[placid kite]

Are you usually this active in the community doze I've seen you alot since a got here

[dull heart]

yes

[placid kite]

That's nice

[lusty orchid]

W doze

We made the right dev famous

[grave rock]

moab my beloved

[vestal osprey]

Oh yeah the Moab is a thing in calamity

[lyric trellis]

Peak

[lusty orchid]

This is peak

I love Moab

[placid kite]

Just another month and I can start my calamity world

[lusty orchid]

It looks like such a terraria item that I gen thought it was apart of vanilla

😭😭

[vestal osprey]

Are they gonna add an upgrade to the Moab called the BFB

[dull heart]

moab is getting buffed in 2.1

in two ways

[lyric trellis]

They need to add the fart balloon to moab so it’s actually 4 balloons and also less bad

[strong isle]

Doze, how does Bakidon interact with Pumpkin/Frost Moon again

[lusty orchid]

Massive win for the unemployed

[dull heart]

doesn't work during them

[strong isle]

Ok, ty

[dull heart]

or during Blood Moon or Eclipse

i think

[grave rock]

it always seemed insane to me that moab never got an upgrade, it just. feels like the kind of item that would have a post ml crafting tree

[odd dawn]

hi guys

[lyric trellis]

First post-ml wings to be worse than Elysian Tracers

[vestal osprey]

Thing is by the time tou get tto post ml you get tracers and really good wings

[fierce hearth]

Moab should increase dart damage by a stupid amount because it's thematic

[lusty orchid]

This would actually be kinda funny ^^

[lapis oak]

First Elysian Tracers to be worse than

[grave rock]

calamity has no darts this is why thorium won

idk what it won but

[vestal osprey]

Lawn mowers should instantly kill any zombie

[grave rock]

it won that

[grave geyser]

cook

[lusty orchid]

You try going up to a zombie irl and lawn mow it

[grave geyser]

yes

[lyric trellis]

It won the more broken mod contest

[grave rock]

true!

[lusty orchid]

In a good or bad way

[vestal osprey]

You got to really min max to break it from my experience

But when you do you can like one shot entire bosses

[lyric trellis]

Depends on the context

[grave rock]

imo its basically as broken as vanilla lol

[lyric trellis]

Bad unless it’s crossmod and/or multiplayer

[still bluff]

Thorium is quite a bit more broken than vanilla lol

[lyric trellis]

Aware

[fierce hearth]

4-2-0 alchemist accessory that increases damage of dart ammunition by 1000x

[still bluff]

The individual items look similarly silly, but any synergy makes them spiral into the depths

[grave rock]

u can use sheaths to do

stupid

damage right

[vestal osprey]

Yeah

I think its combined with the mythril sword

[grave rock]

why the mythril sword

[cunning sequoia]

lawnmowers arent real dumbass

[vestal osprey]

Plants dont exist

I dont exist

[placid kite]

[lusty orchid]

W-what

I-it’s a lie?!

[vivid hemlock]

yeah big machine doesnt want you to know this

[fierce hearth]

Oh actual clupdate question

Is the HUD update coming later or is that in BS

[vivid hemlock]

only the new difficulty ui is in bs

[fierce hearth]

Gotcha

[vestal osprey]

Shame, that new player and boss ui look so good

[dull heart]

you haven't even seen the boss ui like

at all

[grave rock]

secret leak

[lusty orchid]

Brolylomaniac knows something we don’t

[dull heart]

true

[dull heart]

good song

[vestal osprey]

Isn't it in the upcoming content doc or is that in old version

[vivid hemlock]

scrapped

if there are unique bars for each boss that will be done with a shader effect

the boss ui afaik was simplified after heart left, mainly the frame around the actual hp bar

[vestal osprey]

What about the player stats ui?

[vivid hemlock]

we dunno

i havent heard anything about her player ui changing

[dull heart]

the boss ui is peak

me and big e have been cooking

[vivid hemlock]

im assuming its more than just the hp bar right, like theres still a frame around it despite it being simplified from the old version

[royal garnet]

please kill mgr hp bar

[vestal osprey]

Thats still a thing?

[vivid hemlock]

yes

[vestal osprey]

Why was that ever a thing?

[vivid hemlock]

this mod has an abundance of mgrr references

just look at the most famous weapon and the first unique difficulty cal adds

and theres probably like a million things i havent mentioned that are just still around

[shell sapphire]

Wait, we getting the boss ui after all??? Sweet

[vivid hemlock]

there being new boss ui was never scrapped its just the plans changing because heart left the team so she cant finish them

[shell sapphire]

Ohhhh ok ok.

[hollow harness]

fabsol had the habit of adding content of the last game they recently played to the mod

[dull heart]

not planning to

But the new UI will phase out it being needed

[vivid hemlock]

is there a reason for keeping the mgrr bar

[dull heart]

grah I want to spoil the new boss UI so bad but I'll save it for big e to do when they want since it was mostly their work

[dull heart]

it doesn't hurt to leave it existing

[vestal osprey]

Im sure you can share one pixel of it, just one

[dull heart]

we will remove it if it becomes difficult to maintain (which is likely the code on that is a NIGHTMARE)

[hasty tangle]

the mgr healthbar is cool

not unique, sure, but it still looks nice and does its job well

[dull heart]

but until it becomes an issue we'll leave it

[vivid hemlock]

ic

[dull heart]

like no reason removing it from players who want it at this point

new boss UI will be much better though

more info, look better, and have aura

[fallen flame]

If only he had the habit of adding good content to the mod instead

[hollow harness]

TRUE

[rancid pagoda]

I really don't care for the animated fade in and fade out especially when it bugs out and display a random enemy name

[vestal osprey]

Probably all the info you could want

Boss hp (number and percentage) attack, defense, number if minions

[young notch]

I would at least compliment the Soma Prime being in the game but that wasn’t even a Fabsol thing

[vivid hemlock]

number of minions isnt really important

[dull heart]

it can be

Creepers or dark energy for example

[hollow harness]

soma prime isn't a fabsol thing yea

[dull heart]

however!

[vivid hemlock]

thats fair but thats more of an exception

[hollow harness]

crackshot bolt and midas prime are iban stuff I think, not sure about the latter

[dull heart]

CV vanilla bar is still better bc it shows the shield bar for the total hp of dark energy that needs to deplete

instead of the count (which doesn't even have to go to 0)

but CV new boss bar is significantly better than both

[vivid hemlock]

exciting

[dull heart]

the new scal boss bar is fantastic and uses all the capabilities of this system to the max

[vestal osprey]

How will it work for group bosses like exo mechs, will each one get thier own bar or each share the same one

[dull heart]

you'll find out eventually

[vivid hemlock]

i didnt get an answer to this i dont think

[hasty tangle]

I personally dislike the location of the vanilla healthbar, its too big and too central, while also not giving an actual percentage (although that last part is understandable because vanilla bosses dont have that many phase transitions that are dependant on a % of hp)

[dusk bronze]

in E we trust 🙏

[hasty tangle]

thats why i like the cal one so much

[dull heart]

the new cal one is not super big and on the bottom right still

[hasty tangle]

im sure that whatever new ui you all have come up with will still be good though

[dull heart]

I wonder if a config to make it centered would be good though

[hasty tangle]

so im not worried

[thick parrot]

my favorite boss bar that I've seen so far is the infernum one, although I'm looking forward to seeing this new base cal one

[dusk bronze]

pleas

[hasty tangle]

what if it was draggable like the adren and rage bars

[dull heart]

hmm

not a bad idea

grahh

now i wanna go work on more boss bars

but i need to work on More Important Things

(2.1 content)

[dense sundial]

oh huh

source?

[lusty orchid]

What if you nerf every class except summoner and buff eye of Cthulhu to super boss

Straight peak

I truly am a cmt user

[vivid hemlock]

i remember hearing something about that but well doze said the new ui actually displays alot more information so ig not

like idk if boss defense is still in the thing or like how many servants are alive

[pulsar cobalt]

source is doze he talked about it like a few days ago i think?

i think we got a little mockup of what it could look like too

[dull heart]

me

[dull heart]

it was simplified still

both displays more info while being simpler

[versed heart]

Okay wtf I had no idea that existed, wdym "somehow they don't know"? I'd say that's not really clearly communicated ingame
Nice feature though, will probably use it in future Terraria gameplay

[vivid hemlock]

ic so that clears it up

[fallen flame]

He wanted a reliable source, sorry

[dull heart]

i am the most reliable unreliable source

[dull heart]

i'm going to miss nitro in a week from now

[pearl sentinel]

ill buy you nitro if you give me everything ever

[vestal osprey]

Is this health bar designed eith only calamity in mind or could it work with other mods

[autumn pollen]

wait, the Grand Dad is being re-added?

[strong isle]

Meanwhile I'm unreliably unreliable

It's fun to keep you all on your toes

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-alastor-kick-kicking-feet-evil-smile-smiling-silly-gif-5260927818245816902

[vestal osprey]

Ill just leak information i somehow know

[boreal edge]

Listen to me instead

[strong isle]

Yeah ^

[vestal osprey]

The next update will process pictures really fast to give the illusion of movement

This system is called "frames"

[boreal edge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897614777315123230/1189288948783136888/169AC91D-DC7E-4101-B076-83521C30DFB6.gif

[strong isle]

If I ran into a talking shark in real life, I would do nothing but listen

[vestal osprey]

Mozart will NOT be making music for calamity

[autumn pollen]

damn

is Beethoven available?

[distant raft]

we should ask

[vestal osprey]

sigh yall gonna wanna sit down for this

[distant raft]

since mozart's not doing cal music salieri might be

[boreal edge]

Calamity will not be ported to the Vtech Alphabet Apple

[autumn pollen]

what about a Leapfrog?

[boreal edge]

No dice

[autumn pollen]

damn

[vestal osprey]

Calamity will not be in the next smash bros

[autumn pollen]

Calamity mod racing game when

[vestal osprey]

Sephiroth will be a secret superboss

[hard hearth]

spirot

[autumn pollen]

John Calamity as the true final boss

[vestal osprey]

Yharim will take off his mask to reveal he was John Madden all along

[autumn pollen]

guys i found the new Calamity whip

[dusk bronze]

[vestal osprey]

Im so excited for the new whips

[autumn pollen]

im so excited for all the new reworks

[vestal osprey]

Post moon lord summoner whips

[rich galleon]

looks like that dog

am i crazy

you know the dog that was a big meme

"let me do it for you"

[autumn pollen]

i dont think ive heard of that one

OH WAIT

[rich galleon]

i swear to god it was a thing

[autumn pollen]

nevermind yeah i know what you're talking about

the borzois

[rich galleon]

what

[autumn pollen]

also it was "didnt i do it for you"

[autumn pollen]

thats the name of the dog species

[rich galleon]

no

thats a lie

[rich galleon]

liar

liar liar

[autumn pollen]

my pants are not on fire

[rich galleon]

fire with intent to KILL

[autumn pollen]

no u

[rich galleon]

you were wrong

and i hate you

[autumn pollen]

damn

[dull heart]

spoiler: i added jiggle physics

[rich galleon]

in calamity...?

[autumn pollen]

oh no

[young notch]

To this day I regret forgetting to add Ark of the Elements to that bingo card

We could’ve seen these totally real physics in all their splendor during the next Bingothon

[rich galleon]

what the fuck is a bingothon

[dull heart]

the way you're saying this implies that i wasn't telling the truth

[young notch]

Biannual speedrun charity event. Me and a friend did a bingo run of Calamity in winter 2024.

It’s why I joined the server :p

[autumn pollen]

nice

[rich galleon]

interesting

[autumn pollen]

i swear if i see another "meet potential mod" im going to explode

[fathom girder]

Meet this potential mod, who may be a mod in the future!!!!

[strong isle]

Yes, it's for the new Auric Slime miniboss

It's funny how "potential mod" is used in a derogatory way because
Yeah, the mod has potential? Was it supposed to be a waste of time?
God forbid a team project have a future right

[fathom girder]

is it true that you can spawn goozma if you drop an overloaded sludge on an auric slime

[young notch]

I think the main complaint is why it’s taking this long

I personally don’t really care

[dull heart]

stop gaslighting people

[fathom girder]

no no it's real stip showed me

[hasty tangle]

yes, the point is that it mocks how little cal has to show for itself despite how much potential it supposedly has

[mystic eagle]

Meet Potential Server Mod, me!

[dull heart]

no but like i was not joking i did add jiggle physics

[young notch]

Bro

[mystic eagle]

You added what??

[pulsar cobalt]

the potential thing comes from a jjk character that has repeatedly been told to have a strong power, if they could fully utilise it, but cannot

[hasty tangle]

hopefully after bs it will die down since a lot of the potential of the mod is being turned into kinetic actual things in the mod

[dull heart]

(for a flower)

[fathom girder]

Plantera's gonna have bazoongas

confirmed

[dull heart]

banned

[stuck kite]

kills you

[mystic eagle]

Isn't that just called

y'know
Wind

[young notch]

I just don’t understand why something needs constant updates to be considered “good”

[stuck kite]

not exactly

[fathom girder]

mmo brainrot

[dull heart]

no because it's not from wind

[young notch]

If the current product is a good product, what’s the issue

[fathom girder]

I mean

the current product is questionable

[hasty tangle]

cal is not a good product at the moment

many, many areas are lacking

[hard hearth]

its a good product

[hasty tangle]

i still enjoy it nonetheless, but a lot of it isnt that great right now

[calm ingot]

They’re bringing back the fabsol era elemental designs and adding a nature themed one trust me my uncle is a calamity dev

[hard hearth]

especially when you take it into comparison to the average content mod on tmodloader rn

[autumn pollen]

exactly
and i swear, people were complaining about Calamity having too many bad/mediocre things
but now that the devs are going back and reworking the stuff the stuff to no longer be bad, they're complaining that nothing new is being added
?????????

[fathom girder]

yeah like fargos dlc or wotg

wait

[hard hearth]

some people havent done shitpacks and it shows

🙄

[young notch]

I mean I obviously have my own issues with Calamity but like

[strong isle]

Nah the Auric Slime miniboss is absolutely real

It ate my wife

[hard hearth]

fargos dlc and wotg are defo not "average content mod"

[dull heart]

that was actually me sorry

[strong isle]

I miss her a lot

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-computer-smile-yellow-smile-surprised-gif-26981337

[mystic eagle]

Would that be considered a love triangle

[autumn pollen]

i love Calamity
im very excited for its future

[blazing field]

It's funny that people have this reaction to doze saying he added jiggle physics when several sprites in the mod do in fact have jiggle physics and not of the cool kind

[hasty tangle]

i am too

[strong isle]

I'm well aware, I'm just jesting around

[blazing field]

they really had to do that to the elementals

[pulsar cobalt]

okay but those are jiggle animations

meanwhile doze is say jiggle physics

[fathom girder]

he seems really weak idk, is he gonna get buffs before he's brought to main?

[pulsar cobalt]

this is dynamic

[young notch]

I don’t even know why I said this lol I have more than a bone or two to pick with Calamity
But I also don’t play Calamity enough to crave updates

[pulsar cobalt]

it reacts to external stimuli

[blazing field]

yeah its for the new boss the slime demiurge

post ml version of slime god

[distant raft]

doze added mad milk tf2?????

[blazing field]

duh

[autumn pollen]

yeeee
Brainstorm already lookin amazing
and after SSO i assume they're gonna focus on getting the team all properly organized and together so they can be better focused for future updates

[fathom girder]

They've already got a guy for organizing

[young notch]

The only thing I dislike about Calamity is exo mechs but I already know they’re not gonna be touched anytime soon so whatever

[blazing field]

Brainstorm for 50$

[vivid hemlock]

theres also the new post yharim squid superboss thats replacing old duke

[fathom girder]

that's why BS is happening at all instead of it all being SSO

[autumn pollen]

i see

[blazing field]

She's true

[hasty tangle]

the devs are well aware of how bad exos are rn

[autumn pollen]

im very glad for that then

[blazing field]

It's gonna be post-yharim yet will be added before yharim

[hasty tangle]

and are planning a rework, which will come alongside their theme

[young notch]

Oh, that’s good!

[blazing field]

Unless stated otherwise its fair to assume literally every boss is being reworked

Because i mean

Yeah pretty much, they are

Some more than others of course

[strong isle]

There's also the funny shadow wizard man with his pet dracolich

[hasty tangle]

after all, after brainstorm exos WILL be the worst boss in the mod

since dog will be made good

[blazing field]

Is he a part of a gang perhaps

[dusk bronze]

signus

[blazing field]

One that has quite a large amount of wealth, money one could say

[distant raft]

nuh uh ceaseless sucks because i dont understand it!

[hasty tangle]

but signus isnt important to the mod

[strong isle]

Nah
He's part of a government, which is also of a shadowy nature

[hasty tangle]

dog and exos are

[blazing field]

like a shadow wizard money gang of sorts

[dusk bronze]

true

[blazing field]

HATE. HATE. LET ME TELL YOU H

(It's true unfortunately help

[fathom girder]

Sigmas

[misty wren]

signus can afford to be bad because he has like no importance placed on him

[pulsar cobalt]

hate

[misty wren]

exos are the worst because they're bad AND one of the final bosses

[fathom girder]

but. but there's lore for him related to the distortionnn

[autumn pollen]

he seems important in the lore

[pulsar cobalt]

let me tell how much ive come to hate

[strong isle]

Man why do I get cool mod ideas all the time
I barely have time to write anything

[hasty tangle]

^

[dusk bronze]

eh

[autumn pollen]

kind of important anyway

[hasty tangle]

exos' importance to the mod brings them down big time

[blazing field]

Signus's lore is really cool but ultimately yeah

[calm ingot]

Can we replace exos with a good boss pls

[blazing field]

In the grand scheme of things he's not overall important to the mod atm for several reasons

[dusk bronze]

signus is the biggest potential man of all time

[hasty tangle]

we can just replace them with reworked exos

so it will

[blazing field]

He dosen't hae many drops, his fight is the same as all the other distortion guys (Glorified miniboss) and he dosen't have any other content attached to him

[calm ingot]

Even the concept is lame it’s just the vanilla mechs but again

[misty wren]

signus is a worse fight overall but exos cant afford to be Bad

[lusty orchid]

The concept is decent of his machines

[dusk bronze]

which are themselves the 1.0 bosses but again

[lusty orchid]

But what the machines are based off

[misty wren]

they dont have that leeway

[hasty tangle]

i dont agree with this sentiment

[lusty orchid]

Is kinda lame

[blazing field]

In a perfect world Signus would be one of the coolest post ml bosses in my humble opinion specially with plans attached to make him have his own questline and whatnot

but we do not live in that perfect world yet ..........

[calm ingot]

Honestly I forgot that’s even the case yeah

[misty wren]

i think reductive reasoning sucks

[lusty orchid]

Rigjt

Isn’t signups like an assassin

[young notch]

I do like the idea of exo mechs too

[lusty orchid]

Signs

Signus

[fathom girder]

Singups

[orchid finch]

Sigmus

[blazing field]

Old lore moment

[misty wren]

hes the devil from the bible

[lusty orchid]

just wipe me out

[orchid finch]

Siegmund

[young notch]

I guess you could huff copium and consider the exo mechs a “super boss” of sorts. An extra challenge, kinda like how the Shin Megami Tensei series does things.

[lusty orchid]

Ah so it’s been long cjanged

[blazing field]

He's the devil from the bible yeah

[lusty orchid]

Do u know where I could read ALL. The new lore then

[blazing field]

He shows up at your house and offers you a sweet sweet deal

[orchid finch]

#lore-discussion

[misty wren]

pins in lore disc!!

[blazing field]

But for a ✨ price

[lusty orchid]

Thanks thanks

Wait

[calm ingot]

Besides ares having different weapons than sprime what is even different besides the color scheme

[lusty orchid]

So what’s his connection to DoG now

[distant raft]

this is like omega copium considering theyre part of the main story and are same tier as the other final boss

[fathom girder]

fifty dollars

[blazing field]

Signus genuinely one of the coolest motherfuckers in the lore but he sucks ass ingame 😭

[lusty orchid]

Or is there no longer a connection

[orchid finch]

None

[lusty orchid]

damn

[misty wren]

they live in the same country

[blazing field]

There isn't really much of a connection beyond the fact they both come from the distortion

[orchid finch]

Sentinels are no longer sentinels

[misty wren]

basically

[lusty orchid]

Ohhh they wiped sentinels out

[dusk bronze]

haven't been for 3 years

[lusty orchid]

Whaaat

[distant raft]

yeah all thats there is that both of them are from the distortion and thats it

[dusk bronze]

it's the distortion trio now

[lusty orchid]

Wait

So is the storm work

Worm

[distant raft]

errrmmmmmm aschually theyre the rune of kos bosses 🤓

[lusty orchid]

Still same species or something

As DoG

[misty wren]

no its not the same thing as dog

[lusty orchid]

bruh what

[dusk bronze]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[blazing field]

Signus and DoG might be opposed to one another to some extent because, well
Signus might be direct competition to Noxus

[pulsar cobalt]

i really suggest you read the doc you can just like control f whatever info you need

[lusty orchid]

Thanks guy

Guys

I’m old huh

[dusk bronze]

it's complicated

[lusty orchid]

I need to re read

[distant raft]

signus upscale????

[polar tide]

every time someone talks about how the exo mechs suck cdmusic gets lowered 1 cm closer to a giant vat of boiling acid

[blazing field]

Storm Weaver is probably a prototype to DoG

So they're not the same thing

But somewhat related

[pulsar cobalt]

yup signus upscale he beats dog and also noxus because dog is just noxus

[dusk bronze]

btw there's a new lore doc it's super cool and formatted better

[calm ingot]

I didn’t even know there was a lore rewrite since when did this happen

[distant raft]

a while ago

[lusty orchid]

Ok thank you

[blazing field]

Storm Weaver notably lacks the being a egomaniacal asshole part which makes him better clearly

[blazing field]

Around 32 yrs

[pulsar cobalt]

nearly 3 years ago

[blazing field]

THREE

[dusk bronze]

and has all the lore, even stuff not in the game (so most of it)

[distant raft]

theres been like 8 lore rewrites

[blazing field]

NOT THIRTY TWO

not that many

[calm ingot]

Holy shit

[blazing field]

There's been like. two.

[fathom girder]

calamity's pretty old damn

[dusk bronze]

2 years and 11 months ago

[blazing field]

Unless you count absolutely ancient forums lore

[distant raft]

wasnt there lihzahrd yharim era

[dusk bronze]

prehistoric lore

older than ancient lore

[fathom girder]

Lizard yharim is so old lmao

[misty wren]

i think the one we're on is the third if we take ancient forums lore as one consolidated rewrite or something

[distant raft]

what kind of lore are you

[fathom girder]

But I do remember that

[dusk bronze]

which is older than old lore

[calm ingot]

In my head old Duke and exos are still new bosses am I just old

[hard hearth]

yea

[pulsar cobalt]

yea very old lore and that was only done to justify yharims weird ass feet anatomy iirc

[blazing field]

The two main rewrites are

Atleast as far as im aware

[dusk bronze]

exos released over 4 years ago

[hard hearth]

jungle tyrant yharim and jungle dragon yharon

[blazing field]

Fabsol basically writing everything himself > Having an actual team of writers (Pre-22, "Old Lore")

[lusty orchid]

I’m

I feel like my world flipped upsidown

[blazing field]

After 22 new dev team happens, they rewrite old lore kickstarted by Cei (Post-22, current lore)

[hard hearth]

ngl old lore was kinda more goated than current dragon soul shenanigans

lowkey lowkey

[dusk bronze]

❌

[blazing field]

Ein

[pulsar cobalt]

i disagree

[misty wren]

mods kill ein

[blazing field]

Burrower

[distant raft]

i barely remember old lore

[hard hearth]

[dusk bronze]

i thought so at one point too
but realized i was stupid

[hard hearth]

those are not mutually inclusive

[dusk bronze]

i have now seen the light

[hard hearth]

brainwashed*

[fathom girder]

remember when post ML weapons had 20k damage and bosses had millions of health

[blazing field]

The best part of old lore was when yharim punched that table

they should bring that bakc

[distant raft]

remember when scal dropped shadowspec weapons?

[dusk bronze]

[calm ingot]

Remember when ancient doomsayer was in the game

[fathom girder]

Yakuza table slap gif

[fiery wadi]

remember when scal was frickin tuff

[hard hearth]

i remember ancient doomsayer

[fathom girder]

I didn't play much when future bosses released

but I did fight doomsayer like twice

I think

[hard hearth]

specifically because it's ancient doom was a oneshot even with the tankiest builds

it was doing like 1.8k

[lusty orchid]

Remember jam

[blazing field]

thank you ancient doomsayer

[calm ingot]

It got removed?

[distant raft]

remember when demon trophy that was a permanent irreversible spawn rate increase

[calm ingot]

Have I been living under a rock

[lusty orchid]

Ein on l golly U should join my imposter game calamity edition

[dusk bronze]

wtf is jam

[lusty orchid]

LMAO

I wish

[distant raft]

purified jam i think

[lusty orchid]

I’d totally make one though

[distant raft]

the invincible one

[lusty orchid]

Goodbye

[hard hearth]

purified jam

[fathom girder]

Purified jam never got used by me

[hard hearth]

right i remember that

[pulsar cobalt]

ten seconds of iframes

[fathom girder]

because "what if"

[arctic cliff]

i remember draedon being an alien that yharim visited on another planet, which was mentioned on the forum page lore for the Exo Mechs

[hard hearth]

nobody used it

LMAO

[distant raft]

i always forget if its jam or jelly

[fathom girder]

jam

[hard hearth]

using health pots just ended up being more useful

cause if you were gonna use purified jam to avoid being hit

just use rod of discord instead

[distant raft]

also the cost of using purified jam was way too high

[dusk bronze]

remember the thing ozzatron said one single time that it would be reworked into furniture that triggered a demon invasion event

[arctic cliff]

Purified Jam is the epitome of "It's so powerful, yet so limited that you just don't ever use it"

[dusk bronze]

i remember.

[arctic cliff]

that

that would be honestly neat

[calm ingot]

Did dog head still instakill you with jam

[distant raft]

i dont, ive not been in the discord for too long

[calm ingot]

I know it bypassed godmode

[fathom girder]

it did, when it was a oneshot

[dusk bronze]

death dog instakill was scripted

[distant raft]

i think only since like mid 2022 and i became active late 2023

[fiery wadi]

i just miss my marked magnum still

[calm ingot]

Lunic eye does that now

[pulsar cobalt]

demon invasion event would be pretty neat ngl we dont have enough demon content in calamity despite them being a fully fledged group of

uhh

people?

kinda?

idk i dont remember if they were actually sapient

[fiery wadi]

moreso just the abundance of classless weaps tho

[blazing field]

How many people still talk about astralgeldon slime as if it was an amazing boss and removing it was a travesty

I remember fighting it it was king slime with laser spam

[calm ingot]

Remember the fucking the gun thing where it just instantly deleted 20% of a boss’s health

[distant raft]

lasers that get 10k damage postml but only in death mode

[frail owl]

most intuitive boss design in calamity

[pulsar cobalt]

i still see someone like that every couple of months so uhh yeah

[frail owl]

please bring astralgeldon slime back /j

[calm ingot]

Download catalyst

[fiery wadi]

catalyst

[fallen flame]

Wasn't there also that one shortsword that people liked which removed max health instead of doing damage or something?

[frail owl]

yeah i know

[distant raft]

catalyst geldon is geldon in name alone

[distant raft]

coldheart icicle

[calm ingot]

They added that back

[fallen flame]

oh i didnt know that

[dense sundial]

catalyst does not add astrageldon it adds something that happens to be named astrageldon

[blazing field]

I like to think part of astralgeldon's posthumous popularity comes from people seeing catalyst and not actually having fought og astralgel and thinking its fight was cool like that

[calm ingot]

Well nobody wants the original thing surely

[dense sundial]

they could hardly be more different

[frail owl]

hi there john dark souls

[fiery wadi]

i rly liked yanmeis knife but its fair it was removed

[distant raft]

back in astrageldon slime era i dont think anything was anywhere as good as catalyst geldon

[blazing field]

I remember yanmeis knife was based of a webcomic apparently

except i could never find it ever

[frail owl]

hi there burrower

[blazing field]

Burrower

[frail owl]

can you burrow underground?

[fiery wadi]

i thought it was a manwha or smth lol

[dense sundial]

the word "shader" wouldn't even cross the mind of a 2017 tmodder

[calm ingot]

In calamity or in tmod at all because you’d be right either way

[stiff light]

borrower

[blazing field]

Go to a 2017 tmodder and show them wotg vfx code or something and watch them have a heart attack like a victorian child being introduced to a car

[calm ingot]

I was so starved for tmod content I ended up playing fucking tremor
Real ones remember

[distant raft]

tremor was the mouldy bread of terraria mods

[calm ingot]

And I gobbled it up

[mystic eagle]

Show a victorian child Flayer Icon

[stiff light]

show a victorian child instagram reels

[fallen flame]

evil corn

[fathom girder]

Give a victorian child pure evil spicy liquid

[distant raft]

my beloved

[mystic eagle]

Show a pope from the past this #calamity-addon-talk message

[frail owl]

mhm.... corn.....

[misty wren]

@ hagurihat post the thing

[misty wren]

which era

[distant raft]

divine revelation and god showed me their form and ordered me to create it so i may show the world

[frail owl]

thank you jesus

[mystic eagle]

1400s

[fathom girder]

math if it was cool

[misty wren]

burned at the stake for heresy

[calm ingot]

Burned at the stake because god is clearly an average white guy

[spring aspen]

Does anyone have the potential boss changes list
Yk the one with NONE OF THIS IS CONFIRMED everywhere

[fathom girder]

It's probably on the future content doc

if there's even any of that left anymore

last I heard they had that sorted out at this point

[dusk bronze]

it's not there

[fathom girder]

you're not on there..

[dusk bronze]

yeah i am
i'm in the lore doc
and there's a link to it

[fathom girder]

wh

[raw fossil]

so quick question, does this next update 2.1 add the murasama skins and its rework?

or is that later

[dusk bronze]

much later

very low priority

[raw fossil]

so its not coming any time soon, even the rework?

[fathom girder]

very likely

[dusk bronze]

nop

almost certainly not coming this year

as per the fish mines

amidias demands more sacrifices

[limber wren]

Probably in SSO part 2, because, as far as I understand, SSO will also rework progression, pre-hardmode on part 1 and hardmode/post-ML on part 2

[fathom girder]

SSO is for the sunken sea sir

the progression stuff I'm pretty sure was relegated to brainstorm

[dusk bronze]

we have no idea atp

everything past sso1 is a nebulous gas

[fathom girder]

wait... nebula...

DoG is gonna be reworked into a nebula enemy again

[limber wren]

Nop, at least not the armors, which is, like, a very VERY big part of progression, so..... Yeah, no progression changes aside from some weapons and accesories being retiered

[dusk bronze]

"some weapons and accessories"

[limber wren]

A lot being reworked, but not most being retiered, that's what I mean

[dusk bronze]

reworks still fall under progression

[fallen flame]

That also doesn't include all the boss tweaks lol

[pulsar cobalt]

theres quite a few retiers

[dusk bronze]

it does not

[pulsar cobalt]

more than sso does i think actually

because sso has like

idk

teslas

[dusk bronze]

galaxia, void striders, exalted oathblade, uhh

[limber wren]

Huh... I don't view it that way... But I'll try to think it like that

[fathom girder]

are the boot reworks coming in BS

I forget

[fallen flame]

Orderbringer/Iridescent Excalibur

[dusk bronze]

iridescent is dead

[pulsar cobalt]

if u mean turning tracers into boots, then yea

[fathom girder]

swag

[fallen flame]

yeah but they seemed to try and just meld them together tbh lol

[dusk bronze]

it's just the sprite

[fallen flame]

Higher tier than OB, lower than IE, uses IE sprite

[pulsar cobalt]

only part of iri that lived was the sprite cuz it was deemed it was better to use it for orderbringer

[dusk bronze]

you can see the functionality in #spoilers

[dull heart]

many of the reworks are essentially entirely new items

just that they remove an item in exchange

[fallen flame]

part of me still liked the orderbringer's sprite more but eh

[dusk bronze]

true..

[fallen flame]

probably was just the handguard

[fathom girder]

The iridescent excal sprite fits better for what the sword does

imo

[limber wren]

Ohhh, yeah, didn't think of that. True, mb right there fellas

[dull heart]

i also liked the old orderbringer sprite

[fallen flame]

If the IE sprite was updated to have the fancy winged handguard I'd say its strictly better

but alas

[fathom girder]

I think there should be wings on every weaopn

[amber egret]

i Gotta Ask; what Class are Yall Going for Brainstorm

[calm ingot]

All of them

[amber egret]

if you Monoclassed, Which Class

[pulsar cobalt]

none of them

[calm ingot]

Idk because I don’t mono class

[amber egret]

Killing You.

[pulsar cobalt]

im going classless

[calm ingot]

I’m just gonna use whatever’s reworked

[amber egret]

Its Mostly Reworked Though

like. All Of It

[calm ingot]

Slap on completely classless build and fill hotbar with items of all classes

[amber egret]

Dude

[calm ingot]

That’s what I’ve been doing anyway

[hard hearth]

ranger the goat

[calm ingot]

If that much has been reworked where I can’t feasibly use it all in one playthrough ig I’ll do five playthroughs from melee to rogue in order

[amber egret]

Correct Choice ! :D

[dusk bronze]

ranger and rogue

i already did melee

[dull heart]

monoclass is the wrong choice

proof: stratus set

[inner timber]

monoclassing for a new update is lowkey ridiculous

[amber egret]

see thats like the uhhh

[calm ingot]

I just realized I haven’t played regular death mode since like 2022 and all my muscle memory is probably out the window

[amber egret]

Pillars. or Moon Lord. from the THingy.

From uhhh. Fargos

[dull heart]

peak

[calm ingot]

And whiskey

How big is the buff anyway

[amber egret]

That will be a Special Occasion

[dull heart]

lemme check'

[amber egret]

UNLESS Stratus's DPS is Bad. Then i will Not use it.

[dull heart]

it is not

not if you use multiple

[fathom girder]

Stratus will be meta till endgame I'm gonna make sure of that

I will PROVE it

[amber egret]

can you Dummytest a Good Stratus Combo for Melee

i'm Vaguely Curious

[dull heart]

so goes from +15% to -15% over 10 seconds, which each class taking 5 seconds to recharge back to full

[calm ingot]

When you said stratus set I thought you meant armor set and I got excited

[amber egret]

oh what the Fuck

Why That

[inner timber]

twin the whole gimmick is using multiple weapons it isnt just "armor"