calamity-update-talk

[high scaffold]

Ranger is already called the most boring class, pls dont make it even more boring

[dull heart]

grape beer is not meant to be used by everyone ever - none of the alcohols are

[grave geyser]

wait wait wait please tell me you made it so red rockets cant benefit

[dull heart]

grape beer's specific niche is people who want to aim better

[amber egret]

at the early hm stage theres no bosses that teleport like crazy and at the mid hardmode you have chloro

[dull heart]

it's probably broken on MP

[still bluff]

Funny rockets

[amber egret]

idk maybe im hating too hard but it doesnt seem very good

[amber egret]

? melees right there

[fallen flame]

I mean usually there is a constant argument between "consistency" and "raw damage", you might argue that it might reduce damage by too much but the fact remains that being able to more or less consistently hits target's with very little margin of error can, in many cases, make up for the lost damage, especially on certain weapons

[dull heart]

what is it that red rockets do

[high scaffold]

Actualy I think its the opposite, for those who dont want to aim at all

[lavish otter]

Yeah, I'd say you are

[grave geyser]

infinite pierce and can hit the same target multiple times

[pulsar cobalt]

i forgot wat the red rockets in cbmk2,,,,

[fallen flame]

pierce lol

[pulsar cobalt]

oh.

[fallen flame]

well they cant do it at point blank

but they can do it still

[dull heart]

grape beer has a custom hybrid iframe system to prevent inf piercing stuff from sillying

[grave geyser]

ok

[pulsar cobalt]

curious

[fallen flame]

In any case I can't say I know exactly how much damage grape beer loses you, but I do agree that strong homing on basically any ranged weapon sounds really strong on paper

[high scaffold]

Is white vine giving infinite flight with active true melee?

[sly delta]

so would piercing stuff just hit once then go or double back and hit the same enemy again

[amber egret]

it sounds really good but like

[pulsar cobalt]

currently its -75% crit chance, according to doze

[amber egret]

on scissors or on rock it doesnt seem great

[dull heart]

people who want it will use it and those who don't won't

[fallen flame]

Also that lol

[dull heart]

it's not meant to be very univerally applicable

[fallen flame]

just dont use it if you think the tradeoff is too much

shouldnt be an auto-take

[dull heart]

if any of the alcohols don't make people think at all about the tradeoff then then tradeoff is too little

[high scaffold]

Also what is the laser pointer?

[fallen flame]

I mean even with Chlorophyte's major disadvantages over other bullet types in vanilla, most people still usually default to it simply because the effect is that strong lol

and thats just for guns

[amber egret]

i mean they also default to it since most bullets are not that good

like yes i would love my enemies to drop slightly more money (????) that sounds great

id like my bullets to explode???? sure

[high scaffold]

From what I saw it gives the autoaim from console and mobile

[dull heart]

chloro is notably weaker than everything else in vanilla due to both base dmg and effects

well

[fallen flame]

I think a lot of bullets aren't great either but if raw damage is all you really care about, quite literally any other bullet is better (assuming perfect accuracy)

[dull heart]

everything else on it's tier

[fallen flame]

Nano bullets could still be considered a generally better bullet tbh

[amber egret]

the only bullets that compete with chloro in my eyes is luminite

[dull heart]

crystal, ichor, cursed, ichor

[amber egret]

oh and ichor

[dull heart]

all outdmg chloro

[amber egret]

forgot about them

[pulsar cobalt]

accessory that lets keyboard and mouse players access controller's auto target feature

[amber egret]

wait so why would we care about grape beer if we already have lockon

[pulsar cobalt]

because lock on isnt homing

[dull heart]

lock on doesn't mean stuff actually hits them

[high scaffold]

If accessory, its fine as need to sacrifice a slot

[dull heart]

also accessory

[fallen flame]

Kinda funny cause most people say Nano tends to be the major competitor lol

Though those are kinda expensive

[amber egret]

nano has the issue of needing walls iirc

chloro just Does

[pulsar cobalt]

like using lock on just wont work if ur using smthn like demon scythe

where it takes time for the projectile to accelerate and reach its destination

[high scaffold]

High velocity bullets my beloved

[amber egret]

any bullet ever:

[dull heart]

chloro competetion in vanilla includes:

• nano (niche)
• high velocity
• cursed
• crystal
• ichor
• venom
• luminite
• exploding (worms)

[amber egret]

i cannot name a bullet that wont just Go There

[dull heart]

second highest bullet dmg in the game

[pulsar cobalt]

this is mainly a cal problem due to giving every bullet 3 times the speed

[dull heart]

after luminite

tied with venom

[pulsar cobalt]

for no reason

[fallen flame]

It does require a wall to homing bounce, but it has 66% more base damage and inflicts a pretty strong debuff (on enemies that are vulnerable to it albeit)

[dull heart]

cal also guts high velocity

it nerfs HV speed

[pulsar cobalt]

also doze do u know if bullets in cal are gonna keep having a fuck ton of extra updates for no reason

[torn cairn]

i don't think ichor is a real contender i always felt like it's only use was with the black hawk remote

[grave geyser]

meanwhile moonshine:

[pulsar cobalt]

why do they ALL have speed buffs

[dull heart]

in vanilla

[torn cairn]

oh

oops

[dull heart]

in cal the list is different and ichor is still there

[pulsar cobalt]

ehh i think it depends on how long the defense damage duration is increased

[grave geyser]

doze said its doubled

[dull heart]

it goes from 1 second to 2 seconds

[pulsar cobalt]

if its only for like a second its like a fine trade off

[main estuary]

bullet-filled shotgun users

[high scaffold]

Are there any dart shooting weapons planned rn?

[dull heart]

bfs got a nice buff in 2.1

[pulsar cobalt]

especially when u consider most fights just bombard projectiles rather than thought out attacks

[dull heart]

namely i made the bullets fire from the shotgun barrel instead of the player

and sunny did some other buffs too

[main estuary]

cool
because i think the item was useless for literally everything outside of ccr

[dull heart]

now you can get every BFS bullet without being literally inside the enemy

[pulsar cobalt]

i think the real "there is no downside to this" is magarita

cuz even in like hardmode or pre hm

debuffs dont contribute that much dmg + u can get a weapon that doesnt deal debuffs

[dull heart]

margarita might be too strong

yes

we'll see on release

[pulsar cobalt]

nah i dont think its a might

[grave geyser]

like I think it cannot be understated that bloodflare core has a less harsh downside and the upside is absolutely disgusting amounts of healing
meanwhile moonshines benefit is "oh you have a slightly better blood pact hp increase :)"

[dull heart]

bfc also takes accessory slot

[fallen flame]

Also is this saying Hyperius bullets in general got reworked? I didn't know that lol

[pulsar cobalt]

the only section of the game where every weapon is balanced around having a debuff is also the section of the game where debuff damage no longer matter at all (post ml)

[dull heart]

moonshine's downside is also a benefit at times (like when paired with BFC)

[dull heart]

most debuffs got buffed

[grave geyser]

I do not think the bfc synergy is nearly as good as you think it is

[dull heart]

i don't think the downside is nearly as big as you think it is

2 seconds between hits is not that big of a deal

[grave geyser]

bfc does not need moonshine for anything
it already is more than enough to heal you back to full if you take a single hit in isolation

and it makes you actively worse at taking back to back hits

[dull heart]

moonshine's main use will be things like pairing with regenator (33% more max hp = less likely to die in 1 hit + more regeneration) or like, not dying in one hit with glass builds

or anarchy blade i guess

[polar tide]

i paired moonshine with margarita and tequila sunrise it makes you sooooo fatttttt

[dull heart]

oops cit just saved us from evil grape beer

(-10% crit dmg instead of -75% bc i forgot to save)

[fallen flame]

It's over

New auto-pick just dropped

[fathom girder]

should be -25...

[dull heart]

no it needs -75%

without that it would outpace chloro

[rancid pagoda]

if something becomes an autopick it's too good

[fallen flame]

(on weapons where chloro is even a competition lol)

[fallen flame]

Yes that was the intent of my statement

[rancid pagoda]

you do have to compare it to other on-tier options, not just guns

as it opens up using other weapons with homing

[dull heart]

other on tier options it has no competition in it's niche so if you want homing on a non homing

it's the only choice

[rancid pagoda]

yeah I mean using grape beer with basically anything versus using chloro with a gun

[calm ingot]

Grape beer vortexpopper meta?

[rancid pagoda]

but tbh it would definitely be more fun if chloro wasn't the only good option for homing

[fallen flame]

Grape beer wasp gun meta?

[fathom girder]

i wish

[dull heart]

grape beer phantasm gonna pop off

[fallen flame]

Oh yeah

[fathom girder]

what about the phantasm upgrade

I think it'd be cool there too

[fallen flame]

With luminite arrows you got 3X4 homing projectiles for the price of a single arrow

the margins are just... just wow

phangasm

[fathom girder]

eugh

can that be renamed that's such a fabsol name

[dull heart]

luminite arrow's adds don't home

[fallen flame]

sadge

[dull heart]

is being renamed

[fathom girder]

wonderful

[fallen flame]

I thought it was at least mildly clever

but it is a bit crass

then again so is Mourning Wood

[fathom girder]

I don't feel its namesake when using phangasm

so

failed naming schema

[fallen flame]

Isn't the Phangasm literally just the Phantasm with an extra arrow and more damage per shot?

idk if it changes anything else

[fathom girder]

I think it has a faster firerate and more than one added arrow but

yea

[fallen flame]

No it literally is just the one arrow and damage according to the wiki lol

Ok its also got a single extra point of knockback

Damn this thing is really post DoG

crazy

[high scaffold]

Rework may be

Or a replacement by something more interesting

We dont know

[fallen flame]

They are already reworking all the main DoG drops so that seems likely in the future :P

Kinda curious just how many weapons are gonna get the rework treatment anyway, seems like there is still a ton of weapons that haven't been touched in years lol

[high scaffold]

Gitgudwo will surely have a lot of time remaking all "ranking DoG weapons tierlist"

[surreal lily]

whenver i play multiplyer during 5 miuntes in it feels fine but i start lagging really bad after about 10 miuntes why

[high scaffold]

Wrong chat

[surreal lily]

what chat

[high scaffold]

#calamity-mod-talk is more appropriate for that

[surreal lily]

thx

[high scaffold]

Np

[high scaffold]

Even after BS, quite a lot

[fallen flame]

I figured

[high scaffold]

The results of quantity over quantity era have still not been solved completely

They are still removing some weapons to this day

[fallen flame]

I was surprised to see that even the MM weapons are apparently being reworked, though apparently that is more due to just thematic issues than issues with the weapons themselves

[high scaffold]

Most of bar weapons are left to be never used

[rancid pagoda]

I beat moon lord just yesterday and crafted all the magic weapons I could and it's way too many you can get immediately at that point

[high scaffold]

Honestly I feel like post moon lord progression is a bit too fast

Or feels too fast at least

[rancid pagoda]

astral ore is basically pointless as a progression point

[high scaffold]

Maybe because guardians dont have much real drops

[fallen flame]

I mean that's kind of an issue with vanilla Terraria as well to be fair. Tends to be unavoidable when several new weapons unlock after beating the next boss

[high scaffold]

Sentinel items are quite scarce too

[fallen flame]

Simple fact of "I beat boss, I get cool weapons. I beat next boss, I get better cool weapons"

[rancid pagoda]

in vanilla it's mostly just Plantera unlocking new dungeon enemies and the moons and final tier of eclipse

[fallen flame]

Only real solution would be to add more bosses that don't really progress anything, but those don't tend to be popular for obvious reasons

[high scaffold]

Not bosses but intermediate activities

[rancid pagoda]

progression needs to be spread out more, Plantera is the most obvious example of one boss unlocking way too many things at once

[high scaffold]

Plantera is a mini WoF

[fallen flame]

Plantera is by far the worst (all of her personal drops tend to be barely used for that very reason) but it still happens in other parts of the game. Even pre-hardmode can run into it with bosses like Skeletron or Queen Bee

[fallen flame]

Yeah that could help pad out the gameplay a bit. I don't know how much Calamity adds currently but Vanilla Terraria only really has Events and new ore spawns IMO

[high scaffold]

What plantera drops I like: the flail, maybe magic guns and thats it

They are adding a plantera whip in 1.4.5

[fallen flame]

Venus Magnum got a lot better when it got auto-fire, basically just an Uzi upgrade

[misty wren]

calamity adds like none actually i think it net removes

[fallen flame]

Doesn't it have like the armory system and several mini-biomes?

[misty wren]

minibiomes no

arsenal stuff doesnt add any padding as it all runs in the background while you do other stuff

[fallen flame]

ah

[pseudo vector]

the arsenal will be more prevalent in brainstorm since you'll need it to access bosses like pbg

[fallen flame]

Again im not too familiar with the specifics, I just see stuff that seems like it would add more padding and assume it is lol

[pseudo vector]

and you'll ultimately need it at the end of the game if you want to fight exos

[misty wren]

the only real padding is like

i guess acid rain

[rancid pagoda]

anything can add padding if you are a hardcore completionist

[pearl sentinel]

oh thats this update ? fyer 🔥

[fallen flame]

Peanut Butter Gamer is a boss? neat

[pseudo vector]

a good amount of the arsenal weapons are being reworked too

[misty wren]

but calamity nerfs so much of whats there in vanilla as padding which makes it so that it overall doesnt actually matter that acid rain exists as padding

[pseudo vector]

they won't be completely useless anymore

also the reworked weapons will not require charge anymore

once all arsenal weapons are reworked the charging mechanic as a whole will be dead

[high scaffold]

There are like 28 weapons being removed in BS

[native thistle]

I think there are way more than that

[torn cairn]

that's bs

[fathom girder]

fucking finally oh my GOD

wasn't even that bad but goddamn it was annoying

[high scaffold]

BS will be huge

[fathom girder]

that's bs

[torn cairn]

hey you stole my joke

[fathom girder]

heh

too 🐌

[lyric trellis]

Weapon count total is going from 772 to 757 also

[fossil dew]

Does anyone have the gif of the scrapped yharon resprite with the wing flap animation

[torn cairn]

too snail?

[fathom girder]

what are snails

[torn cairn]

idk you tell me

[fossil dew]

🐌

[high scaffold]

-15 net total

[fathom girder]

this guy's a 🐌

[high scaffold]

Meld weapons rework is also cool

Levi drops reworks

[torn cairn]

everything is cool

there's so much stuff it almost feels like a storm in my brain

[dull heart]

wowow

[modern grove]

They should add a bronze age to terraria calamity

[high scaffold]

An update to make whole game better

[cunning sequoia]

one step closer to killing power cells

[dull heart]

what if i told @grave geyser i buffed medusa head what then

[torn cairn]

isn't that their only use anyway?

they're already dead

[cunning sequoia]

codebreaker

[modern grove]

Kill 7 billion fluff particles

[cunning sequoia]

you need em for decrypting still

[lyric trellis]

No way

[grave geyser]

do not give me hope

[lyric trellis]

2.1 saved

[torn cairn]

right forgot about that

[fierce hearth]

I wish the charge mechanic was something interesting like you could have powerful single use modes but that would never fit well into Terraria's format. After all, we rightfully retired all the limited use boss killer weapons

[grave geyser]

if you are merely going to cut it short

[high scaffold]

Are those dust spam spell tomes getting reworked in 2.1?

[lyric trellis]

Yes

Assuming you mean the death valley line

[fierce hearth]

I like having close range blast spells but damn did we add a lot w both those and the tentacle spellbooks

[rancid pagoda]

I struggle to find uses for the close range magic weapons

[high scaffold]

Yes that one

[vivid hemlock]

all three got reworked yeah

[fierce hearth]

They're excellent event and worm killers but suffered against most bosses

[high scaffold]

Arguably the worst looking weapon attack in the entire game

[fierce hearth]

My awesome beige dust rectangle

[high scaffold]

Waiter waiter, more dust please

[hasty hawk]

we have stealth for that anyways

[dull heart]

or just cooldowns

[high scaffold]

Eye of golem rework in bs

Now thats interesting

[torn cairn]

maybe it is interesting

but would it be as interesting as an osc rework?

don't think so

at least imo

[high scaffold]

Lunic eye and eye of magnus rework

[torn cairn]

that would be pretty cool too

but at least those 2 are pretty good items

so in terms of balancing they're fine

[fierce hearth]

wait eye of golem rework? As in there is one or you want one

[halcyon seal]

There is one

[fierce hearth]

ough

[fallen flame]

What would win?
-Staves and guns of untold cosmic energy, fueled by the primordial elements themselves,
or
-A really big blast of dirt?

[torn cairn]

it's not just dirt

it's magic dirt

[fallen flame]

The fact that the Omicron is in the same tier as Primordial Ancient is still laughable to me

Just on a fundamental level

[misty wren]

i mean

look at what other classes have

hitting something with a progressively stronger rock is always an option

[fallen flame]

Yeah yeah I guess

[fierce hearth]

If energy blasts can scale infinitely, I believe rocks can, too

[fallen flame]

I've just always been a bit unconvinced when the progression in games has some obviously basic/primitive weaponry still holds up with (or even exceeds) the performance of things like laser beams/cosmic powers/fundamental elements lol

I know its basically unavoidable in Calamity but its still always going to be a bit silly IMO

[misty wren]

real life accurate

[fallen flame]

Isn't Aces High still considered one of, if not the best ranged weapon in the game currently? lol

[misty wren]

i dont think so

[torn cairn]

it kinda is afaik

against exos and scal and stuff

[summer shore]

Certainly not the best but it's still auric tier

[torn cairn]

yeah

[misty wren]

the best slot is far and away reserved for the bullshittery that is hellborn

[teal bone]

[fallen flame]

Yeah that might've been what I was thinking of

[torn cairn]

this thing is actually not that bad against polterghast

that's how strong it is

same thing applies for slick cane i think i remember it being not that bad against dragonfolly

yet it's prehm

[fathom girder]

that's just oz

[amber egret]

i feel like a lotta exoweaponry doesnt take the advantage that miracle matter does infact molecularly reassemble weaponry into New Stuff

[fathom girder]

I feel like anything you craft into a weapon has been molecularly reassembled

[amber egret]

well yea

but you take this weapon and it turns into a thing htat makes sense to upgrade from

exo weaponry shouldnt really do that

[fathom girder]

photoeviscerator is rather unique for what it is

as an example

[amber egret]

theres the most i shoulda included

like, subsuming does it pretty good

exoblade is just kinda a lategame melee

to be honest i woulda expected ark of cosmos to do what exoblade does, and exoblade to do what ark does

turn your Sword into a YoYo for a short Time

[dull heart]

48 -> 75 dmg

[grave geyser]

E -> low C lets go

[high scaffold]

There will still be so many potential reworks even after 2.1

[amber egret]

no i dont think so i think the game will remain stagnant for evermore

[tribal isle]

no shot

the murasama rework is right there and its like idk 3.0

[fallen flame]

I personally don't mind them reworking the current Miracle Matter weapons, but I hope they don't entirely scrap their current forms. If nothing else it's still a visually impressive and thematically cohesive set and it's always unfortunate when such obvious hard work goes completely to waste.

Maybe they could just become the new elemental set since the current elemental weapons are kinda old and outdated lol

[dull heart]

idk about thematically cohesive

[pulsar cobalt]

i dont think any dev has mentioned that the already reworked weapons will be reworked once more

[dull heart]

they're thematically consistent but the theme is not cohesive

[pulsar cobalt]

their vfx will change obviously to match the new designs but they wont be reworked

[fallen flame]

Eh, I mostly meant that they at least look similar in a way that still communicates they all belong to the same set

[high scaffold]

Rn miracle matter is quite literaly random bs go

[amber egret]

will cosmic immaterializer be reworked

[dull heart]

Yes

[amber egret]

iirc isnt it a shitty summon

[tribal isle]

will they add astral undergrowth in sso

[amber egret]

Yay!

[fallen flame]

But yes the set in question is kinda just chromatic mix lol

[pulsar cobalt]

me when clean and smooth vivid clarity is in the same set as messy and chaotic heavenly gale

[dense sundial]

Miracle Matter is the LEAST thematically cohesive thing ever

[dull heart]

🕊️

[fallen flame]

I have a soft spot for rainbow vomit

pretty color go vrrrm

[amber egret]

oh right vivid clarity is a Weapon of all time

[pulsar cobalt]

the vivid clarity issue is tbh a thing with a lot of the hpu mm sprites

[hasty tangle]

youd love shroomed mode

[fallen flame]

Vivid Clarity might've had a sprite update but the actual weapon effects definitely were not lol

[pulsar cobalt]

they felt too clean and too perfect

[dull heart]

I almost reworked vivid clarity into a magic missile upgrade

[high scaffold]

No literaly, the craft of mm, the lore of mm and craft of mm weapons

[vivid hemlock]

half of the miracle matter weapons being reworked and the other half being 10 million year old weapons

[pulsar cobalt]

peak?!

[tribal isle]

isnt that literally how you make miracle matter

[amber egret]

legally, no

[dull heart]

but I ended up giving the reworks for them to Xyk

[amber egret]

effectively, yes

[fallen flame]

To my knowledge the only current MM weapon that wasn't ever updated was the magnomaly cannon (which did have a rework in the vein of the others but was almost definitely scrapped presumably)

[tribal isle]

oh i thought u meant just weapons

[dull heart]

Idk what Xyk has planned for vivid clarity though

[vivid hemlock]

im talking about the actual way the weapons work not the sprites

[amber egret]

vivid clarity has the issue of being the Shadowbeam Staff but Better

[fallen flame]

Ah

[pulsar cobalt]

same set

[vivid hemlock]

the concept of current mm

[fallen flame]

I mean, I can still see it?

[high scaffold]

Magnomaly cannon that didnt even receive a resprite

[fallen flame]

Maybe not an exact 1-1 but the same general idea is still present in both

[amber egret]

one of these is Very White and the other is very Green

[fathom girder]

wait based you should have

[fallen flame]

Honestly the only sprite I thought stood out was the Iridescent excalibur (and obviously the magnomaly but that doesnt count lol)

[vivid hemlock]

iri excal isnt actually part of the set it just is made of it (also its getting removed anyways so)

[high scaffold]

Excalibur sprite will now be used for orderbringer

[arctic cliff]

I think that’s because that is only considered mm because it uses mm in its recipe

[amber egret]

whaat

why

its so good when tainted

[fallen flame]

I saw that, I think the rework looks pretty good

[pulsar cobalt]

iri excal having the same colours as miracle matter is a coincidence

[amber egret]

i didnt :(

[fallen flame]

I remember the Irisdescent getting reworked in BH and it still looked... bad

[pulsar cobalt]

its just meant to be a rainbow sword

[high scaffold]

They are making melee weapons actualy somewhat melee

[dull heart]

That's because it was a shadow dev item of fabsols

[fallen flame]

The sword beam spam just looked generally uninspired and kinda simple for such a high tier weapon

[amber egret]

aaah.

[fallen flame]

that i didnt know

[amber egret]

i thought it was dedicated to someone else

and not The Horse

[final pine]

i mean he was madly in love with exxo avalon so that makes sense

[tribal isle]

i dont think i ever made iridescent

[dull heart]

it's one of multiple shadow dev items of fabsols

Technically Drew's Wings fell under that too

[pulsar cobalt]

it was dedicated to blah (iirc the creator of exxo avalon) but like

[amber egret]

Exo

mechs

[pulsar cobalt]

fab just made it cuz he wanted to

[dull heart]

Nitro Express Rifle too

[pulsar cobalt]

its not like blah asked for it

[tribal isle]

his name is lit on it

[amber egret]

nitro

Ex

press rifle

[high scaffold]

Drew's wings are dead

[pulsar cobalt]

not a shadow dev item since he admitted to it but lillies of finality too

[high scaffold]

Wings of rebirth shine

[pulsar cobalt]

he wanted a signalis reference and so there was one

[amber egret]

What a Calamity!

[dull heart]

Fabsol insisted they were not a dev item iirc, and they didn't have the dev item tag

[arctic cliff]

No, they reincarnated into a beautiful lotus flower

[pseudo vector]

their name was a ref anyways

[polar tide]

thats funny as shit

[pulsar cobalt]

not to mention the 361 thing

[pseudo vector]

now they're the nicest wings in the game

[summer shore]

512

[tribal isle]

done ✅

[final pine]

dia wings 🤤

[amber egret]

?

[grave geyser]

technically speaking that would go to fin wings, as it requires the most good deeds to obtain

[amber egret]

removed broken biome blades jungle attunement?

[amber egret]

added basalt??

[polar tide]

dia sprite my tombstone when i die pls

[pulsar cobalt]

not wat im talking about

[amber egret]

what are you talking about

[polar tide]

361 is a reference to mega absol's max speed stat

[high scaffold]

It wasnt realy melee
Also actual whips exist

[pulsar cobalt]

^

[summer shore]

Good joke but still tomato upon thee

[amber egret]

what is the joke here

[polar tide]

fabsol

he likes absol

the pokemon

[cunning sequoia]

helping the angler is not good deeds

[polar tide]

its not a joke thats literally what the wing flight time was

261

*361

[amber egret]

oh

ohhh.

[cunning sequoia]

you're killing innocent fish for the amusement of a sadistic little shit

[amber egret]

i get it

[summer shore]

God damn

[amber egret]

they are Not innocenet

[summer shore]

And then he did the same shit with lilies of finality

[pulsar cobalt]

it wasnt a joke i was mentioning how drews wings had additional references to fab aside from being called drews

[summer shore]

😭

[amber egret]

did you hear about the Fish-o-Tron

dude Killed Five Guys

the Restaurant

[cunning sequoia]

god forbid a guy has hobbies

[amber egret]

he Did it for A Hamburger with Pickle

[high scaffold]

Forbidden circlet rework

[tribal isle]

i thought drew wings referenced the guy from bendy and the ink machine

[polar tide]

if i had a nickel for every shitty guy who made a fan project i enjoyed for an existing game and liked absol and did some kind of fabulous+absol pun i'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but what the fuck

[amber egret]

i thought drew wings were called that because someone who died was called Drew

[pulsar cobalt]

no it was referencing himself

[polar tide]

LOL?

[amber egret]

they looked like angel wings

[pulsar cobalt]

the other username he went by was MountainDrew

[cunning sequoia]

they're literally just solar wings but recolored

[amber egret]

that is a Stupid name

it should've been Sprite

[fallen flame]

Dr.Prepper

[cunning sequoia]

the fact that the owner of terraria and the ex-owner of terraria's most popular mod are both named andrew

[amber egret]

because Mountain Dew is Yucky and Sprite is Good

[cunning sequoia]

bravo kojima

[pulsar cobalt]

yea i was about to mention this

[final pine]

yin and yang

[amber egret]

yes but one is named Spinks and the other is named I Dunno

Spinks is like Spoink who is Neutral Good

[pulsar cobalt]

you know how like toby fox has a doppleganger called sebastian wolff? yea redigit has that and he was called mountaindrew

[high scaffold]

Occult skull crown change is actualy pretty good

[fallen flame]

Yoinky and Sploinky

[polar tide]

why the fuck does the image look like that

[cunning sequoia]

toby fox and yandere dev type of shit

[polar tide]

joke cancelled

[amber egret]

Beautiful Image

[fallen flame]

A duo as iconic and heat and cold miser

[amber egret]

you got Ambient Mode

turn that Shit off

[polar tide]

its annoying me so much im legit goign to repost it hold on

[amber egret]

Exceptional

why does the Evil Baby look like an American but the Kind Baby look like an Ancient Chinese American

i Cannot phrase it otherwise

[misty wren]

it was originally

[tribal isle]

scott cawthon and yandere dev

[high scaffold]

Because China is the greatest country +1000 social credit

[amber egret]

glory to A Bunch Of The Letter Z and X For Some Reason (romanization is A Thing, Certainly)

[misty wren]

but the dedicatee didnt want it in the first place (fab had just Dedicated it to them) and asked fabsol to change it to not be the same thing as the thing from exxo avalon so he did

[pulsar cobalt]

(so basically it was fabsols dev item)

[polar tide]

dev item singular? lol

[pulsar cobalt]

singular because i was only referring to iri excal

[high scaffold]

Why is post polteghast kinda stacked with reworks

[tribal isle]

imagine if polterghast got a rework

[high scaffold]

Someday

I love that they are adding new electricity debuffs

The category will now have 2.5 times more debuffs than pre update

From 2 to 5

[distant raft]

doesnt he say that hes gonna put them in an aquarium for a bunch of them

[boreal pewter]

Me when I greedily guzzle all the weapon reworks in order to intentionally halt Calamity devs from making anything 😈

[summer shore]

VC got reworked?

[fathom girder]

SSO got a rework

[summer shore]

SSOO

Sunken sea overhaul overhaul

[viral merlin]

Xyk starving for game development

Let the poor boy do something

[amber egret]

okay he shall go Make SSO

and not a single BS part

[viral merlin]

Overhaul my Sunken Seas...

[fierce hearth]

SSO has already been overhauled we can't do it again

There are a lot of things in the patch notes that are factually untrue now

[dull heart]

hi

[dull heart]

soo truee

ultimately i couldn't figure out what to really do to the vivid clarity line in a way i was satisfied with

so while no late game magic missle is a tragedy, it's for the best it's not the Vivid Clarity line

i think we need another post-polter dungeon magic weapon clearly

[amber egret]

magic missile imo is boring because it either sucks or is autoaim

[dull heart]

L take

no whimsy

[deft lily]

mage class 🛌

melee class 🔥

[amber egret]

my whimsy only exists when it stands

Magic Missile's niche is "Ventilation Ducts" and i wont lie theres Not Many Of Those In Terraria

[dull heart]

Magic missiles niche is being cool

[hollow harness]

clearly this person hasn't seen how ugly was magic missile before its rework

[amber egret]

no i mean like How You Use It

being able to direct a Projectile is Cool but like

when do i need to do that

the boss is Right There it is not Flappy Bird

[dull heart]

always because it's cool

also weapons don't just exist on bosses

Magic Missile in caves or the dungeon or hell houses

[amber egret]

terraria is like Cuphead in which its Only Bosses and Nothing Else actually

[dull heart]

no it's not

[amber egret]

hmm i think you're Wrong

its just retinazer and Biome Mimics

[dull heart]

calamity makes it more like that

due to nerfing literally every enemy

(Calamity nerfs hardmode scaling)

[polar tide]

hits you punches you

[deft lily]

:(

[amber egret]

Obviously

[fallen flame]

I have been watching a friend play some early-game masochist mode + revengence and I'm actually surprised how manageable the base mobs are

He's still working with basic ore gear and can handle even blood moons and invasions just fine

But the second a boss shows up, he dies in 2 hits lol

[dull heart]

yeah

Calamity really makes stuff super boss centric

[fallen flame]

Seems like the difficulty is quite top-heavy with that setup

[dull heart]

Due to 3 major reasons

• defense powercreep (being fixed in 2.1)
• hardmode enemy scaling nerfs (being fixed in 2.1 I think?)
• weapons not balanced in general gameplay and only bosses

[amber egret]

well yea

[fallen flame]

I see I see

[amber egret]

Most enemies are Boring Baby Shit and not Awesome Sigma Shit

[hollow harness]

(also on weapons, weapon design)

[amber egret]

like Bosses

[fallen flame]

I do hope that's tweaked a bit, I do think even the basic enemies should pose some level of menace at most stages of gameplay

[fallen flame]

You sound like my other friend lol

[amber egret]

exceptional, are they Kind

[fallen flame]

Literally gives 0 craps about anything the game has to offer but the boss fights

[amber egret]

oh no i Like exploring

i also like Flanderizing

and Oversimplifying

[fallen flame]

His plan was to basically mod out every single piece of "busy work" (IE not boss fights) through "QoL" mods and then kinda just steamroll through the game

That's no way for a player to live

[amber egret]

no its Okay

singleplayer Game they just dont like Joy and Whimsy

[fallen flame]

I've basically had to convince him that me and my other pal will do most of the "busy work" for him so that he doesn't just install what amounts to a bunch of cheat mods

[hollow harness]

remove the busy work and then its like terraria: fight, fight, fight

[mighty geyser]

solution: make terraria into carrion

[amber egret]

what is Carrion

is that a Game

[fallen flame]

It is sad to see how much little stuff they've packed into terraria only for like 95% of the gameplay to just monopolize around combat lol

[mighty geyser]

mhm

[fallen flame]

Dont get me wrong, that is the best part of the game, but it's gotta have some decoration, you know?

[hollow harness]

qol just kinda kills the game sometimes thankfully I detoxed myself from that plague

[fallen flame]

I mean im glad I got to watch my one friend start playing simply so that I can know to what extent I should tweak Fargo's specifically lol

[mighty geyser]

cant wait for the day enemies are more than a nuisance in cal

[deft lily]

if people want to play with QoL mods thats their choice

they just cant be mad if it ends up killing the experience for them

[mighty geyser]

even in the big tier skip from hardmode to post moon lord its like

scorn eaters arent particularly threatening they just take a billion years to kill

[mighty geyser]

GOOD IMAGE

[deft lily]

bruh

[hollow harness]

TRUE

TRUE

[fallen flame]

30 isnt even that much lmao

[amber egret]

this is Exaggerating

[distant raft]

counterpoint: no vanilla buff is short enough to run out mid fight

[halcyon seal]

30's just a holdover from items had unique max stack sizes

[amber egret]

they should have The Halibut Cannon

[deft lily]

theres definitely a fine line between a QoL change vs "change that makes the game easier for no reason" change

atp QoL has become a buzz word in the tMod space lmao

[amber egret]

Truth Nuke

[halcyon seal]

i think true qol is like

smarter cursor

just enough recipes

[amber egret]

see the word QoL means Quality of Life

[halcyon seal]

you could argue magic storage but id disagree

[deft lily]

right yeah

[amber egret]

if it makes your life Quality, its QoL

[fallen flame]

I think its less duration IMO and more that every time you die, you have to reapply it, which costs a lot of time and resources when it happens 50 times lol (also contributes to making basic enemies even easier)

[hollow harness]

small vanilla styled changes I think

[amber egret]

hm

no

Magic Storage is not Vanilla Styled

but that shit is Quality

and Life

[fallen flame]

Magic storage is about the only QoL mod I will actually conceed, simply because vanilla chests are too damn small

[hollow harness]

wasn't refering to Magic Storage in the first place

[distant raft]

you can consume all buffs in your inventory with one press of a button (vanilla feature) so it in fact does not cost a lot of time

[fallen flame]

If they had bigger chests I would maybe reconsider

[polar tide]

whenever people talk about qol i think about how one time i clicked on a video called "can you beat terraria with only accessories" and the guy used a mod that gave him 200 extra accessory slots and reforged every single accessory to warding and acted shocked and appalled that he was winning

[hollow harness]

i mean in vanilla potions are pretty much optional for me at least

[deft lily]

how the mighty have fallen

[fallen flame]

I mean the time to actually farm, fish, and collect the materials to make that amount of potions to keep up with the amount of dying you will be doing (assumedly)

[distant raft]

oh yeah vanilla's piss easy you can get by with jack shit

[dull heart]

vanilla potions are balanced around the fact they take effort to make

cal balacning with potions in mind is stupid and evil

[hollow harness]

The only buff item you kinda want to pay attention is anything Well Fed+

[dull heart]

nneds to die

[distant raft]

something something fab balancing around external qol

see: star cannon

[mighty geyser]

nothing can make a boss easier

we always need to balance around the best possible kit a player could have

[rancid pagoda]

goodbye to blood orbs?

[hollow harness]

Because Expert (and Master) makes the player regenerate less hp if they don't have the well fed buff or any upgrades to it

[distant raft]

blorbs will still be a thing for brewing potions

[polar tide]

blorbs...

[hollow harness]

either way Vanilla provides pumpkin seeds so the issue is pretty much avoidable

[buoyant pulsar]

this is such a banger idea

[distant raft]

i remember the future system being something like adding more blorbs to increase the yield of potions brewed

[rancid pagoda]

tbf blood orbs only replace the easy materials

[dull heart]

blorbs suck so bad

[hollow harness]

[dull heart]

none of the alcohols can use blorbs

(they also only have one or two ingredients besides the glass bottles)

[fallen flame]

Sekiro philosophy lol

[halcyon seal]

i think its good for cal to balance around potions but only in cal difficulties

[dull heart]

I don't think it is

[halcyon seal]

bc like those are meant to be notably harder than vanilla difficulties

[dull heart]

I'd much rather potions be optional and not expected power ups

[halcyon seal]

i think its good to encourage more prep for fights

[fallen flame]

I agree that I don't think potions should be taken for granted, yes on paper they should be extremely easy to collect and apply, but they are still "extra effects" that not every player will care or bother to interact with

[dull heart]

I think that prep should be encouraged through gear / arena instead of potion farming

[rancid pagoda]

unless you make it so that buffs do not get removed on death it is awful to expect you to be buffed for every fight

[arctic cliff]

i think the takeaway is that potions are kinda super useful

[buoyant pulsar]

i actually love this weapon a lot but i agree it could be more interesting. i hope the accelerating speed and barrage aspects stay though

[dull heart]

this is true

alcohol persists through death for this reason

[polar tide]

is alcohol supposed to persist through death? lol

[hollow harness]

i think potions preparing should be like

[dull heart]

they're expensive to make but make large batches, and they persist through death because they're literally playstyle defining items

[hollow harness]

if you have trouble fighting a boss or something

[dull heart]

Grinding more of those rare items sucks

[polar tide]

because it does not on current bs auric beta

[dull heart]

Yeah it's a dev change

It'll be in next beta

[polar tide]

i sea

[amber egret]

i Love blood orbs

[polar tide]

swag

[amber egret]

they are Boba

[dull heart]

I also made them make more than the beta

[polar tide]

blorba

[dull heart]

10/20 instead of 6/12

[polar tide]

waow

[fallen flame]

I mean personally I also see potions as something of a reward for players who bother to involve themselves into the other mechanics of the game that aren't solely combat related

[dull heart]

I agree

[amber egret]

i buy all my potions from QoL

because Raw Stats!!!!

[dull heart]

that's the problem with balancing around them is that just happens

just having players go buy them from QoL is so incredibly lame

but in the current state of potions not using QoL for them also sucks

[amber egret]

i think the Issue is that Potions are really really Valuable for like

The Game.

[rancid pagoda]

literally multiple things in Calamity making potions easier to craft and people just bypass all that anyway

[amber egret]

you More often than Not want More Stats

and most cant be bothered to Grow Plants or Keep Bottles

[dull heart]

yeah but once we don't have potions as the expectation

[hollow harness]

wrong its pretty easy to grow plants actually

You just have to invest on it

[amber egret]

why did NPCs stop Selling Potions again

[dull heart]

then we can make it clear to people that making them easier to obtain is changing intended balance

[amber egret]

or do they still do and i just mentally forgot

[rancid pagoda]

mindless fishing gets you everything because stuffed fish exists

[dull heart]

because potions aren't meant to be so easy to obtain

[fallen flame]

I wrote like, an entire essay to my friend about this, but the root of my mentality is that, if you can just make buffs/potions permanent after getting a fairly low amount, then you will basically just speedrun farming/fishing/etc just enough to get the required amounts, and then never touch that aspect of the game again, which, IMO, has an overall negative effect on the overall gameplay experience. Making it so that they aren't infinite and you are regularly required to restock and refresh your stockpile every so often forces you to consistently interact with various other systems the game has to offer. Sure, some might call it "busy work" and unfun, but that's the kinda mentality that just leads to people basically speedrunning bosses down and turning the entire game into 2d dark souls

[rancid pagoda]

and crates have potions

[hollow harness]

like literally calamity makes it so much easier to farm herbs

[amber egret]

but Stats

[dull heart]

cal is moving away from providing so much potion QoL

[fallen flame]

If that's what you want then sure, but i personally disagree

[amber egret]

Raw Sheer Stats

[hollow harness]

you can control the time, you can control the weather

[amber egret]

but that takes Time and i already spend that Mining and Killing The Next Boss in Progression

[dull heart]

okay then either don't get the stats or get a mod to make the game easier

[fallen flame]

Funnily enough my friend also wanted autominer because he hated mining as well lmao

[dull heart]

both are fine

[amber egret]

I did that Already !

[rancid pagoda]

I happen to like the chill pre-boss stage of the game and all the ways to make that faster are taking away from the enjoyment

[fallen flame]

Making every mining speed bonus the game provides basically useless

[hollow harness]

hey jimmy give me a terraria with nothing

[fallen flame]

Basically

[amber egret]

this Terrarian still Makes their Potions the Old Fashioned Way.......

[fallen flame]

I like Fishing

I might be alone on that but its true dammit

[amber egret]

get with the Times, Grandpa. we move Fast here

[tribal isle]

people actually fish n shit for potions instead of just buying them from the qol mod npc?

[hollow harness]

fishing is pretty easy too you just have to invest on it

[amber egret]

the next boss dies in Thirty Minutes or Draedon will Actually Nuke Terraria

we are on a Timer here

(half joking here)

[dull heart]

one thing about new alcohol I can definitely say is that buying them from QoL does break the intended balance and experience; but people will do it anyway and that's fine

blessing of modded is that you can play how you want

[fallen flame]

Fargo actually makes fishing way too easy IMO. Not only can you basically get every single useful accessory in a single in-game day, but almost every rod has multiple bobbers and just drastically improved fishing power (not including the angler enchantment that makes everything better X10)

I feel like this Fargo fellow just didnt like fishing much at all lol

[amber egret]

why would Most do That

[hollow harness]

historically there has been a crusade against anything that takes time in the game

[amber egret]

half of them are "Kill You Now" and the other are "We made an App to Destroy all Opps

[rancid pagoda]

they will do it because it's already there

[hollow harness]

Fishing for example

[amber egret]

a What

[hollow harness]

tbf angler quests take more time but its oughh

[dull heart]

what?

[fallen flame]

I argue in defense of these "time wasters"

[amber egret]

i dont know

i wont lie im just saying Shit

[pulsar cobalt]

blessing of modded is you can make the instakill rapid gun and no one can stop you

[fallen flame]

They are what separate the wheat from the chaff

[pulsar cobalt]

😊

[rancid pagoda]

like, they will have alchemist npc for the other potions so they will just buy the alcohols too

[amber egret]

Yes!

[tribal isle]

i wish angler had an actual shop where u could buy bait and actually just fish whenever u want to

[hollow harness]

you can get bait everywhere though

[fallen flame]

I wish the angler just gave me the shellphone when I rescue him from the ocean

[amber egret]

Truth Nuke

Fish Nuke

[rancid pagoda]

bait is in a weird spot in vanilla where you become self sustaining with bait from crates but only after a point

[amber egret]

kills Everyone

[tribal isle]

ah yes let me go around the whole world to get like 25 worms that will be gone in 15 minutes of fishing and not yield me anything

[hollow harness]

you also have jungle bait

[amber egret]

get Crates my man

Crates = more Bait = more Winning

[pulsar cobalt]

i was gonna ask that cal should add an autofisher but im pretty sure thats actually being done in sso

[hollow harness]

like, if you really need to you can make jungle bait farms and it works

[tribal isle]

i aint getting bait from crates for shit 😭

[amber egret]

Autofish:

[amber egret]

unlucky, Get better Luck

[pulsar cobalt]

lame and also too fast

[amber egret]

it can Talk so its not Lame

[pulsar cobalt]

i want it to be slow autofishing so i can actually multitask

[rancid pagoda]

kinda don't like that bait becomes something you don't have to think about after a point

[pulsar cobalt]

if its just the speed of normal fishing its too fast

[fallen flame]

Yeah I agree, unless you stack fishing power to like 150+, you will usually operate at a surprising loss for bait even when you have well over a hundred

[amber egret]

Go my Starbait from WotG

[fallen flame]

which is why i think 30 is comically low

[amber egret]

Perish and eat my Not Consumable

[hollow harness]

the thing with angler quests its the rewards rate I think

well tbf you have guaranted prizes every x amount of quests completed

[fallen flame]

I do agree that only 1 angler quest per day base is quite rough, especially considering that the game actually offers very few ways to speed up time

[rancid pagoda]

when was the last time you actually crafted sonar, crate or fishing potions

[fallen flame]

When I last played vanilla lol

[hollow harness]

I don't craft them really I get them through quest rewards

[amber egret]

never !

i get them from The Tackle Bag or from Fishing

[hollow harness]

maybe 3 a day honestly

[pulsar cobalt]

oh my god i just thought of peak idea

[amber egret]

Climb a Mountain

[rancid pagoda]

and the potions are the "bad" reward from the Angler

[pulsar cobalt]

an item that you can write in that reminds you to do stuff at certain times and what not

[fallen flame]

That sounds fairly reasonable IMO, especially if you have multiple players in your world that can turn them in

[pulsar cobalt]

so for example you can write "At 4:30 AM, do Angler Quest" and until you have done the angler quest it will keep notifying you to do it

[rancid pagoda]

after you got the good items from the Angler you can make him really unhappy to get more potions

[fallen flame]

and I dont necessarily mind being able to craft some of the items, but they should still require a decent time investment to do so

[barren hollow]

What like do the events when they become available
Or mine ore when they unlock/have a high enough pickaxe power?

[pulsar cobalt]

and it will only notify if you can do it

[hollow harness]

the good items of angler used to be awful to get

[pulsar cobalt]

and also set if its a repeatable thing u wanna do or a one time thing

[amber egret]

you can Do this!

using Sensors

and Signs

[pulsar cobalt]

for example you can put "At 7:30 PM, on a Full Moon, get Moon Charm"

[hollow harness]

thankfully vanilla makes the fishing components for cellphone/shellphone shimmerable between them so if you got multiple of one you can shimmer it into the other

[barren hollow]

Ew manual wiring

[amber egret]

Fool

[fallen flame]

"Man invents alarms or a calendar, more at 5" lol

[hollow harness]

I just look at the time

[sly delta]

random idea i had but what if instead of fishing quests u would just be able to rarely obtain quest fish from fishing and trade them in for rewards or credits to buy stuff from the angler

[fallen flame]

That could be neat

Would also allow you to see that beautiful spritework for the quest fish more often

[hollow harness]

honestly not bad considering if the quest fish catch would be tagged as Extremely Rare

[fallen flame]

Yeah would also be good to just have more rare catches in general, would make fishing power even more valuable

[dull heart]

2.1 fishing my beloved

go my Sunken Sinker

[fallen flame]

Did the Devourer of Cods get reworked

[sly delta]

make it summon mini devourers that fish for u

[wise bolt]

the fish it consumes disappears from its being entirely and instead appears in your fishing bucket. convenient !

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[fallen flame]

[sly delta]

borrow the power of the distortion to teleport fish into your inventory

[dusk bronze]

[buoyant pulsar]

glowups of the century

[amber furnace]

lovely

[summer shore]

The real glowup of the century is AotE

[dusk bronze]

that was resprited 4 years ago

[deft lily]

AotE?

[hollow harness]

ark of the elements

[deft lily]

oh

[dusk bronze]

apsect of the end

[arctic cliff]

but THAT. was still in this century. so it is still the glowup of the century

[dusk bronze]

[sly delta]

hypixel skyblock referenced millions must sell their soul for 1% more stats

[strong isle]

Volterion goes so hard

[stuck sail]

Hi 👋

[polar tide]

GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE STACY ‼️

if thats a real person im gonna feel really bad

[dull heart]

lol

they definitely look like a bot

[polar tide]

who is your favorite calamity character and why

[rancid pagoda]

saw one of these on another server

literally the only thing they did was a a similar greeting with an emoji on a couple different channels multiple times some time apart

[polar tide]

barely knows how to be alive

[dull heart]

what if i spoiled

[hidden ridge]

What if you spoiled

[hidden ridge]

Crazy

Flamethrowers my beloved

[dull heart]

flamethrower meta of hotswapping between 10 of them

[cobalt wharf]

“matching vanilla” and it’s literally just two items

can we get spaz flamethrower to inflict 20 seconds of cursed flames on the player

or shadowflame i don’t remember if that’s gone yet

[dusk bronze]

and shadowflame

[cobalt wharf]

it’s BOTH??

[dusk bronze]

on rev yeah

[fallen flame]

But enough about whips

[dull heart]

true! but it's 100% of vanilla flamethrowers

and we need more items with long debuff times because it's funny

[tribal isle]

Vanilla has more flamethrowers than the one post skeletron prime?

[dusk bronze]

elf melter from frost moon

[tribal isle]

Frostmoon

[dusk bronze]

still basically identical

[tribal isle]

That’s why I don’t know about it

[misty wren]

rest in peace eldmelter

killed by not being old gen console/3ds version

[arctic cliff]

they made it fire frostfire

in short, they made it blue

[hollow harness]

goated weapon

[dusk bronze]

it's a very special attack

[amber egret]

Woah.

Lightspeed looks Dope.

[amber egret]

throwerstacking!!!!!

[buoyant pulsar]

PLEASEEEEEEE remove this bullshit lol

sorry for ping reply

forgor

[stuck kite]

ya

[buoyant pulsar]

i think all of the mechanical burrower enemies should have tailwhip attacks like wotm thanatos

or like

one of them maybe

idk

the tailwhip is so badass

with all the explosions n energy n whatnot

[lavish otter]

Wrath of the Mods?

[dusk bronze]

machines

addon that gives exos their eternity mode ai

but without the rest of eternity mode

[wintry niche]

hey, i get this but i cant download the older version adn there is no way of going back does anyone know how to fix this

[orchid finch]

do not play Calamity Overhaul

[wintry niche]

whys that is it very bad and buggy

[dusk bronze]

yes

[mighty geyser]

mirror blade also has one of the best new tooltips in brainstorm

its not lorey its just metal

[lapis oak]

awesome leak

[misty wren]

my favorite tooltip

iron

[mighty geyser]

[buoyant pulsar]

what is it

[mighty geyser]

this si the tooltip

[mighty geyser]

pay $50 to find out

[buoyant pulsar]

brainstorm $50

[stuck kite]

fitty dollas

[arctic cliff]

do not forget

[dull heart]

This is true

I wish it was my idea but it wasn't

[fathom girder]

holy aura on that mirror blade

wtf

[grim atlas]

elemental shiv resprite 🥹

[fathom girder]

IT'S NOT NAMED THAT ANYMOOOOORE

[dull heart]

ahem that's lightspeed to you

[fathom girder]

has it been put through aerodynamics tests

[dull heart]

it originally was almost named Starburst Shiv

so glad it was changed again

[fathom girder]

can't hit lightspeed if there's air resistance

[grim atlas]

not until 2.1 its not

😇

[dull heart]

L imagine not having 2.1 right now

[fathom girder]

Hey doze

If you give me 50 dollars i'll buy auric tier

[gray trench]

If you give me 50$ i'll buy auric tier

[fathom girder]

Only if you give me 50 dollars first

[dull heart]

If you give me $50 I'll buy auric tier

[gray trench]

Auric tier dev

I feel like dog rework was worth more than 50$ tbh

Don't tell doze i said nhat

[amber egret]

if You give me 50 Bucks ill Do Nothing

[fathom girder]

You're already THERE

[gray trench]

Doze is in auric chat yeah

Sparklenova when

[dull heart]

I wonder how close auric donor slots are to full

[cobalt wharf]

ill make one for 30

[dull heart]

I'll make a better dog than 2.1 dog for $50

[distant raft]

57 left according to the patreon page

[fathom girder]

Isn't that what stargod will be

[distant raft]

i wouldve thought there'd be a lot less slots

[cobalt wharf]

ur not allowed to take 2.1 dog and only change one thing

[gray trench]

57 slots

[dull heart]

no stargod sucks it's way too long to be fun

[fathom girder]

Wait auric tier is limited???

Shit

[gray trench]

It went down??

[distant raft]

yeah

but like there's still a ton of open slots

[cobalt wharf]

i do not think it will ever get full

[distant raft]

how do i get auric without the role colour i like my purple

[fathom girder]

I'm gonna get hit with omega fomooooooo

[gray trench]

If you're nerdy about calamity then pls i need more people than just doze to talk to

[fathom girder]

You have an AURIC CHATROOM

Go THERE

[dull heart]

true

[gray trench]

Yes

[dull heart]

I could do so much more

[gray trench]

And literally no one but doze there is nerdy

[fathom girder]

Well um

Wait a month

And then we can all be happy

[gray trench]

What's the payment

Where do i send money

100usd en route

[lavish otter]

Ohhhh! I remember hearing that'd be a thing, but I didn't know it was already out

[gray trench]

Oh aren't you auric

[dull heart]

I should work on roots more

[lavish otter]

Nah
I was Cosmilite, but I had to cut off the Patreon payments for a bit, so I'm not anything at the moment

[dull heart]

~~its like 6 months old now I think ~~

[lavish otter]

Yeaahhh- I stopped keeping up with that a while ago, I suppose

Definitely before Fabsol was booted

[dull heart]

anyway I think I will go to bed now

[gray trench]

Sleep wel

Don't die

[dull heart]

just finished The NOexistenceN of you AND me the first time and it was good but it turns out

vns late at night make me tired

[gray trench]

Is it something you'd recommend to me

[dull heart]

in general I'd recommend it but I don't know specifically why or who to

[misty wren]

oh yeah i like that game

[dull heart]

my brain has not yet processed it yet

[gray trench]

Go eep

[dull heart]

very beautiful game though, visually one of the best vns I've seen

alongside slay the princess

I need to go finish 100%ing STP too

[fathom girder]

where were u when fabsol was kil

I was at home when fone ring

"Fabsol is kil"

yes

[flat folio]

It was kinda surreal to see unfold in the span of like 24 hours

[tropic jolt]

🪷

[dull heart]

Reading hypnoscord chat at the time was wild

[gray trench]

I was in the hospital the day he was killed

[gray trench]

Hypnoschat???

[lavish otter]

I was around here, but I always have the main chat channels muted, so I only caught word of the stuff he said when he started scrambling to defend himself

So that was an interesting experience

[fathom girder]

He defended himself? All I saw was that he decided it was over for him

[dull heart]

he defended himself against the first stuff

[deft lily]

man i wish fabsol was erased from every john cal user's mind

[lavish otter]

He did for like...a few minutes I think, he just realized he wasn't going to win soon after that

[dull heart]

the nsfw minors stuff he just accepted

[fathom girder]

Hm. I was mostly around for the aftermath I suppose

[dull heart]

the transphobia or whatever

I wasn't actually in chat so idk the details

[fathom girder]

He shall live on in infamy, unfortunately, but he will be a rather important reminder of what not to become

[lavish otter]

I remember when he got really upset about his messages from the Patreon server being "leaked", as if it isn't basically a public server

Either that, or someone did in his stead

[deft lily]

brother
hes a transphobic loser that thrives off of drama

give it a break

[hardy gulch]

yeah no thats a public server

[deft lily]

let him disappear

[fathom girder]

And let history repeat itself...

[gray trench]

He was aware that like half of the cal community is trans right

?

[hardy gulch]

probably was

[dull heart]

not just half the community, half his dev team

[sacred marlin]

The person he lived with

[gray trench]

That's even funnier

[dull heart]

Literally his roommate yup

[gray trench]

Wait

[fathom girder]

Yeah

[dull heart]

he also didn't seem to think his comments were transphobic iirc

[fathom girder]

It was certainly something

[hardy gulch]

what fabsol did boils down to dropping the Demon Core on his own foot