calamity-update-talk

[gray trench]

Doze if i ever try to do accessoryless can you hit me with a giant fucking hammer

[pseudo vector]

i think we actually discussed that a few months ago

at least the possibility of giving the community the chance to do all the non-boss achievement icons or smth

i think

[fathom girder]

mid human malice DoG nohit

[pseudo vector]

my brain is slow

[fathom girder]

That's possible

surely

[pulsar cobalt]

also wait hold on

[arctic cliff]

honestly i'd like that

[pulsar cobalt]

cd why you up its 2am rn

[pseudo vector]

i have a problem

[gray trench]

You could be doing malice dog ramless

[deft lily]

sleep is for the weak

[arctic cliff]

theres a lot of things as to why assets-needed doesnt get really used these days, but i think non-boss acheivements are the kind of thing you can just go to the community for help with

[buoyant pulsar]

rest in peace lazhar, you were the silliest o7

[pulsar cobalt]

id be doing malice dog ramless if i could

[buoyant pulsar]

🔥

[deft lily]

i will not be touching new malice mode in BS because i dont hate myself thank you 🙏

[polar tide]

this constitutes a threat of bodily harm i think

[lavish otter]

If I could be doing Malice DoG ramless, I'd go to bed

[pseudo vector]

okay i don't have that kind of problem

i don't hate myself that much

[gray trench]

[vestal osprey]

could it be any worse then infernum DoG ramless

[polar tide]

lol

[gray trench]

It made me contemplate if i ever wanted to play terraria again like 3 times

Tbh

I got a run where i got him to 11%

[dull heart]

much, much worse

[gray trench]

Inf dog is easy comparatively

[dull heart]

inf dog ramless might be easier than just malice dog in general

[summer shore]

Does malice increase damage by 300% or something

[gray trench]

No have you seen master damage

[vestal osprey]

Who was the one who programed malice DoG?

[lavish otter]

Really? I thought infernum DoG would be impossible without rams

[gray trench]

I think it's lower

[dull heart]

infernum dog slows himself down if you have no rams

[gray trench]

Theres as achievement for it

[lavish otter]

Huh! The more you know

[hasty tangle]

doze is the man behind the slaughter new dog

[gray trench]

equips ramdash and enables ball and chain

[summer shore]

I have never touched master lol

[gray trench]

Dog in current has 1400 contact

[dull heart]

Anyway malice dog is considerably more aggressive than infernum dog

[summer shore]

Oh my go

[dull heart]

and faster

[gray trench]

Inf dog looks like a puppy an a leash

[vestal osprey]

ah okay..

So doze... WHY?!

Infernum DoG is already so difficult, you made one thats HARDER?

[deft lily]

funny joke

[dull heart]

coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

[gray trench]

Literally

[summer shore]

What are the damage numbers for rev and death

[gray trench]

Have you fought malice dog start to finish

[dull heart]

because it's fun

[pseudo vector]

malice dog is like if you let that puppy off the leash and let it run circles around you

[polar tide]

cd just talked me out of doing a malice playthrough but seeing you guys talk about it makes me so so curious

[pseudo vector]

you cannot stop that mf

[vestal osprey]

Imagine youtubers trying to beat malice DoG

[gray trench]

Fun isn't true

It's beyond fun

It's peak

[lavish otter]

God damn- and that says something, because Infernum DoG during its dashes is constantly on your ass

[dull heart]

malice dog is like if the puppy was a hippo trying to eat you

[frail owl]

meow

[gray trench]

625 mph

[deft lily]

no because again i dont hate myself

i havent done a playthrough on the auric beta at all.

[gray trench]

[vestal osprey]

Are all the malice bosses gonna be that difficulty?

[dull heart]

no

[gray trench]

Malice DoG is Transsonic

[dull heart]

dog is very likely going to be the hardest one

[frail owl]

[hasty tangle]

mach 7

[gray trench]

0.8 mach

[lavish otter]

🏳️‍⚧️onic

[vestal osprey]

Does the new Brain of Cthulhu have a malice AI?

[summer shore]

Malice is gfb right I keep forgetting

[dull heart]

ftw

which means it also carries to gfb

[gray trench]

0.84 Mach sorry

[dull heart]

GFB dog is much easier than FTW though

[summer shore]

Close enough

Malice remains not real to me ❤️

[gray trench]

Doze can you mach malice dog 745 mph purely to implement a sonic boom sfx

[dull heart]

because he's only 3 segments and GFB gives tools that can obliterate him

[gray trench]

[vestal osprey]

GFB combines everything, so there are wierd affects on bosses

[frail owl]

alright i just landed a hypnosis first turn and then my opponent conceded immediately

[polar tide]

pokemon nuke stops chat dead in its tracks

[lavish otter]

Also wait- I think I actually did the math for DoG's speed a bit ago, hold on

[gray trench]

Do you think oz will change my nickname in patreon

[dull heart]

no

[frail owl]

to what?

[vestal osprey]

Wait doze did you also do the BoC?

[jagged cliff]

The lacerator is cheating for GFB DOG

[gray trench]

Currently it's
Malice DoG Buff When

[polar tide]

that was big E

[gray trench]

You can oneshot current DoG in gfb

[jagged cliff]

Its not viable

[gray trench]

How

That's with no weapon

[frail owl]

lacerator gaming

oh

[dense sundial]

Phosphorescent Gauntlet:

[frail owl]

[lavish otter]

So at max, DoG should be able to go about 214 MPH, which is a bit less than mach 0.3

Just a bit

[gray trench]

Right no

Now?

[jagged cliff]

You can also use the infernum trident from the sandshark

[lavish otter]

In the rework

At least as it was described previously

[jagged cliff]

Or sergeant united shield

[gray trench]

645 net 625 sorrry

[lavish otter]

Wut-

[gray trench]

645 is top speed - Dozezoze

[summer shore]

Malice went from fabsol vagueposting about its difficulty to patreons vagueposting about its difficulty

[gray trench]

[pseudo vector]

at least this time malice is just gfb / ftw and just a shitpost difficulty

[gray trench]

Well more specifically doze said 6450 was if it was 10×

[jagged cliff]

Oh guys the new Devourer is soooo hard its crazy hard

[pseudo vector]

instead of being something actually serious

[jagged cliff]

I should know

[lavish otter]

Wait no, I'm pretty sure that was pixels per tick

Not miles per hour

[deft lily]

bs for 50 dollars

[gray trench]

Default run in cal in 22mph

[dull heart]

645 mph is true

[lavish otter]

Is that 22 pixels per tick?

[dull heart]

for malice absolute top speed

[summer shore]

Is dog still 102 segments

[gray trench]

Whats mph to px a tick

[dull heart]

no, default run in cal is 4.5 px per tick

[jagged cliff]

Is malice still just a mode where every boss is enraged

[dull heart]

The terraria wiki has the exact conversion

[dull heart]

No

[lavish otter]

Weird- so yeah, there's either something I don't know or the math is way off

[dull heart]

it's just the name for picking the calamity difficulty on legendary

[hasty tangle]

malice is just the fancy new name for cal's difficulty in ftw

[gray trench]

So 22.5=4.5 a tick

[gray trench]

132

[dull heart]

This is taken from Terraria's source code, where the player's internal pixels-per-tick[1] velocity is multiplied by 216000/42240 (hard-coded) to get the miles-per-hour velocity for display.[2]

[summer shore]

what changes between rev and death

Besides master stats

[dull heart]

death ai stuff

[summer shore]

Ise

That's cool

[lavish otter]

Weird-

[dull heart]

All the current master or death changes except those we removed bc they sucked

[lavish otter]

Hold on, let me see if I can redo the math to see how I got what I got

[gray trench]

126.151px/tick

126.151×216000÷42240

[lavish otter]

Huh- that's making sense so far, so I must've just done something wrong

[dull heart]

You ever think about how (chainsaw man spoilers) ||DoG is just yharim's version of chainsaw man||

[jagged cliff]

what does that mean for someone who hasn't watched chainsaw man

Is DoG Yharims pet?

[dull heart]

you wouldn't even know what it means if you have watched it, you'd need to have read the manga

[orchid finch]

Bark for me

Hello chat I am about to go to an exam I am scared please send help

[deft lily]

youll do fine

trust

you gonna explain what this was about or just leave it at that?

[vestal hamlet]

listen to roar of the jungle dragon before the exam and youll pass trust

[dull heart]

read a chapter of the fragrant flower blooms with dignity

[lavish otter]

...oh...I know what the mistake I made was now

[orchid finch]

I mean sure, the exam is Japanese, but I don't think it'll help a lot

[lavish otter]

When I saw the 33-42 pixels per tick comment, I missed the secondary comment about how he can go three times as fast in Malice

[gray trench]

[lavish otter]

Deserved, honestly

[summer shore]

Big csm spoile
||chainsaw man can eat devils which causes that devil's domain to disappear from everyone's memories as if it never existed||
Dog can eat gods and can remove their essence from the world completely

So it's kinda similar ig

[jagged cliff]

Oh lmao

I know theres some weird pet dynamic in CSM

I just thought Yharim was being kinky as shit

[summer shore]

Not in this case I thin k

[fathom girder]

bullet worm

[summer shore]

Well I haven't actually read the mango I just hang around people who have

[summer shore]

😭

[lavish otter]

And on top of that, how 33-42 pixels per tick is for Death mode, and that was the context for that answer- the worst part is that it completely lines up with my math, too, so I didn't even need to redo any of that

[summer shore]

yharim is married to the grind

[lavish otter]

The answer is that it's just three times the answer I got

[orchid finch]

Bullet Storm Weaver

[summer shore]

bh
bullet hell
brimstone hellblast

[deft lily]

brainstorm tomorrow

[orchid finch]

You're lying

But, yknow, it'd be funny if they drop a trailer and it literally says "Brainstorm tomorrow"

[summer shore]

It's been over a week since auric patreons got the beta

[dense sundial]

I’m happy to wait, so long as the release window stays locked in

[deft lily]

that'd be peak

[tribal isle]

why do people say pochita is one of the strongest in verse if it’s a dog

[summer shore]

you're a do g

[tribal isle]

I’m not dennis

[summer shore]

flip the d 180 degrees

[lavish otter]

bennis

I flipped it on the Z axis

[fathom girder]

uses svantechnical

[summer shore]

you're tupid

[fathom girder]

you'res* tupid

[lapis oak]

draw my thumbnail

[summer shore]

whar

what thumbnail

[lapis oak]

fat Neco Arc eating Scal's Brimstone Blasts

[fathom girder]

are straws a viable tool for slurping up the whirling maelstroms

[grave rock]

wrpmg cjat

wrong

mb

[orchid finch]

I passed

And thankfully not away

And how are you guys doing? Any spoilerous news?

[deft lily]

congrats

and no, nothing new really

[hoary edge]

that was dope

[buoyant pulsar]

what if it had little thrusters flare up on each segment for the dash

[orchid finch]

Wait who's that

Is this Decon Mk2?

[fathom girder]

Yo wtf

Crazy worm movement

[dull heart]

this was mk3

scrapped though

[summer shore]

You should ask @wide badge instead

[dull heart]

hmm

[wide badge]

Wha

Oh this used to be CST

You sure about that? My drawings are made on MSPaint

[orchid finch]

Awww

[dull heart]

ok here's spoiler

[olive kernel]

real

[placid kite]

I wanna start playing so bad but I gotta wait

[lapis oak]

wtf is this

red

[misty wren]

50 dollars

[placid kite]

?

[misty wren]

auric tier my patreons

[placid kite]

[summer shore]

Even better

[placid kite]

Should I just start playing and ditch waiting for the update

[amber egret]

thats an eye?

looks mildly like scals

[dull heart]

crazy guess

it's correct

[orchid finch]

Strawlamitas

[amber egret]

im just so fucking awesome

here eye is slightly more shadowed, and its a bit taller

[summer shore]

Damn

Girl put on some eyeshadow

[amber egret]

i think i anaylsed (intentional mispell) her sprite a bit a good while back

[dull heart]

its the boss icon of her

[amber egret]

like her map icon?

either i have mild eye problems or that image is two red pixels

[versed tendon]

After the no sleep night i went to a thought why there is no weak clone accessory from astrum deus which literally splits. And mirror ram is just eyes' satisfaction

The entire weak clone instead of +12-15% damage

[main falcon]

When brainstorm drops it will feel like the ending of captain America

[placid kite]

Uhh

what

[deft lily]

[gloomy grove]

unforseen levels of glaze

[deft lily]

? what

[gloomy grove]

this

[deft lily]

oh

yeah

[gloomy grove]

i need my donuts glazed like this

[tropic jolt]

thankfully calamity was not quite frozen for 70 whole years

[amber egret]

i mean it kinda was

[wide nova]

hi

[orchid finch]

hi tye

[wide nova]

hi zav

[fierce hearth]

hi

[high scaffold]

Calamity update tomorrow talk

[fierce hearth]

clupdate never talk

[high scaffold]

Soon

[stray hull]

WOAAAHAHHHHHHH

thats a huge spoiler

[tough gate]

yo got a dumb question is infernum gonna be compatible with the new update?

[summer shore]

Perhaps

[lapis oak]

Yes

[deft lily]

why did i get pinged

[lapis oak]

Dummy

[distant raft]

yes, cal 2.1 is the last major cal update that infernum will be maintained on

[tough gate]

i'm so hyped

thanks

[pseudo vector]

do a playthrough of base cal when the update drops tho, don't jump straight into infernum

[tough gate]

yeah ik already had that issue with the last infernum update

and wrath of the gods

[pseudo vector]

addon mods will take a little time to update anyways, there's been a ton of internal code changes with calamity but we've been making sure and working with people from the respective mods so that they will have a smooth transition and won't take too long to update to 2.1

[tough gate]

love y'all for that

[pseudo vector]

regardless though, i'd personally advise to experience the update without addons on your first playthrough, otherwise you'll miss out on some important new things

[high scaffold]

Do hallowed and chlorophyte rogue helmets have at least a chance of being added?

[pseudo vector]

[spark girder]

like what?

addons only change bosses

[pseudo vector]

boss stuff mainly, that and changes to balancing in general

[high scaffold]

Those 2 are interchangeable all class helmet sets so not adding rogue to them especially when its just 1 helmet for each set wouldnt make much sense

[deft lily]

you'd think after 18 times of asking this question you would've read the room by now

[high scaffold]

Never lose hope

Imagine if auric tesla didnt have a rogue helmet just because

[deft lily]

i frankly dc i just think its weird that you're constantly in this channel asking the same question and expecting a different answer

[pseudo vector]

once we get around to overhauling the rest of rev+ i imagine the appeal of mods like infernum would probably waver a bit

[deft lily]

hopefully thats the case

[spark girder]

i think infernum will dwindle anyways because of its staying on older versions

[deft lily]

probably

[pseudo vector]

there's a non-zero chance that new death mode ends up as hard, if not harder than infernum in some ways

but with more up to date design choices when it comes to the fights

[halcyon seal]

I just hope new death is a) harder than revengeance in an actually notable way and b) isn’t current masdeath

If it does both of those I’m satisfied

[deft lily]

all of the master death ai that got added in bountiful harvest is getting axed in BS

[pseudo vector]

(new icons sprited by dandy btw)

[halcyon seal]

Ok the dynamite bunny is really funny

[azure oak]

icons good

[pseudo vector]

dandy did a fantastic job on them

but yeah the difficulty streamlining will definitely be felt

[fossil dew]

Im very happy death mode is getting more defined in this update

I usually play cal with my friends in multiplayer which ofcourse decreases the difficulty alot, but between rev and death playthroughs i basically had no difference lawl

[summer shore]

I'm gonna do a mhage pt first

Probably

Can't wait to use helium flash

Beloved

[pseudo vector]

over time death will definitely have more of its own identity

[summer shore]

What bosses do you think got the most notable changes

Besides dogger and brain

[pseudo vector]

uhhhhh

ravager and cultist do feel pretty different

cal clone as well even though she basically just got an arena added to her fight on rev+ with some visual touch ups

[wooden blade]

The bunnyin the middle of a unexplainable deity, 2 rotten forms of himself, a walling corpse and a giant brain with nails

[pseudo vector]

[wooden blade]

Idk i think it's very funny, they eye candy to look at too so there's that

[hardy gulch]

MALICE MODE IS BACK

[pseudo vector]

(its a gfb / ftw exclusive but in some way its back)

[hardy gulch]

legendary exclusive makes sense tbh

[wooden blade]

Legendary malice masoshist mode

[azure oak]

why is the death icon just a symbol rather than an actual thing like the others

[wooden blade]

I want to headcanon the fact that it's just a deity

[pseudo vector]

it was based on the previous new death icon we were using before dandy redid them

[azure oak]

ah

[pseudo vector]

i don't even remember what the current death mode icon looks like

[azure oak]

pentagram

[amber furnace]

why is malice mode back tho

[deft lily]

it isn't back in the way it was originally present in the mod
its literally just FTW Death with Legendary mode stat scaling

its just called malice mode as a dumb internet shit post

[hoary edge]

true

[mental cypress]

i'm confused, was yharim ever planned to be an actual boss?

the lore seems to imply that he's much weaker than yharon

and he's also like, given up on everything

and probably powerless now that yharon is dead, right??

i don't know whether this fits better here or in lore discussion actually

[azure oak]

yharim has always been planned to be the final boss

[mental cypress]

isn't xeroc more powerful?

[azure oak]

yharim may not be very destructive but he is far more dangerous than yharon in fysical fight

[azure oak]

yes but xeroc would be an optional post-game superboss

[mental cypress]

also is noxus planned as a boss

[azure oak]

yharon's also not technically "dead", his soul's just in the aerie until he rebirths

[azure oak]

another post-game superboss

[mental cypress]

but he drops his auric soul

[azure oak]

no

he drops auric soul fragments which are only extremely small shards of the entire thing

[mental cypress]

ohhh true

[amber furnace]

oh ok

[azure oak]

byeah yharim is a lot harder to beat in a 1 on 1 fight

[thick parrot]

I'm curious, when the brainstorm update arrives, will other content mods need time to iron out any compatibility issues, or will it be good to go? Just wanted to check so I'm 100% sure since i plan to be in a calamity + TSA world when the update goes live

[halcyon seal]

every content mod is likely gonna need multiple days if theyre trying to have cal compat

[thick parrot]

hmmmm, I see

thanks for the confirmation

[high scaffold]

Kinda remembered something, are additional wing effects getting removed completely?

Ive seen that with some wings stated in changelogs

[halcyon seal]

theyre getting reworked to be all movement based iirc

[high scaffold]

Goog

[polar tide]

lol?

[thick parrot]

alright, sounds like a couple weeks roughly

[tribal isle]

if you killed yharon and he dropped a whole ass auric soul its just hunt of the old god shenanigans

[mental cypress]

nah i was thinking of the fragments

[woeful pagoda]

Looks fire, but will this be in the brainstorm update?

[pseudo vector]

yes

the difficulty streamlining is one of the main things coming in brainstorm

[woeful pagoda]

Awesome

Can't wait to play base cal for the first time

[analog helm]

bnuuy

[tribal isle]

soooo will you still get master mode stuff like relics if you play on expert rev

[wide nova]

hi

good morning

[tribal isle]

hi

[deft lily]

hi tye

[pseudo vector]

expert rev is dead

its just rev now

and yes you'll get the relics still

[mental cypress]

what the fuck is this 💔

[dusk bronze]

peak.

[deft lily]

alien
the green alien

[tribal isle]

this looks like something scott cawthon would make

[polar reef]

i wonder how much time is left till the sunken update releases

[mystic eagle]

Have fun waiting like 9 months minimum

[polar reef]

welp ima have fun waiting then

[mystic eagle]

You'll get another update in either this month or the next though

[polar reef]

yk what

upd?

[jagged cliff]

SSO got delayed, brainstorm was hastened tho

[vivid hemlock]

it didnt get delayed

they just split off the not sunken sea from sso

[polar reef]

what is SSO

[jagged cliff]

Yes its a weird situation

I still consider it a bit of a delay

[vivid hemlock]

its the sunken sea overhaul

[polar reef]

a ok

[jagged cliff]

Also I'm like 90% sure the new terraria update comes out this January

so BS will probably come out February

[polar reef]

what is it gonna be now?

[jagged cliff]

wrong acronym

[vivid hemlock]

if anything this may streamline sso development because now the actual sunken sea overhaul isnt only 20% sunken sea and would be the main focus

[jagged cliff]

ngl I haven't thought about that

Brainstorm IS the modernization update

While SSO is the actual sunken sea update now

[summer shore]

Hundreds of item reworks, a bunch of boss tweaks, simplified difficulties

Remade labs

And uh maybe rewritten vanilla bestiary but I'm not sure if that's making it in or not

[jagged cliff]

lab reworks

[dusk bronze]

haguri said no

[summer shore]

Ohok

[summer shore]

Fovos lore delayed another 16 years

[dusk bronze]

[vivid hemlock]

the masses wont learn about his daily routine

[summer shore]

his routine is eat moon rock

[jagged cliff]

I just realize that the new sunken sea lab actually has the draedon crystal growing setup

[sly delta]

how will calamity stay relevant in 2030 without fovos

[jagged cliff]

bro just say the moonlord

or call him Cthulhu

[summer shore]

cthulhu is fake

[lapis oak]

Said fovos

[summer shore]

Fovos is easier to type than moon lord

[lapis oak]

Blah blah blah

[summer shore]

stinkiri is easier to type than kiriwhite

[vivid hemlock]

just say ml or moon lord like a normal person

[dusk bronze]

he's not cthulhu

[summer shore]

doncare

[summer shore]

To this

moonillin

[vivid hemlock]

launches an asteroid at you

[summer shore]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ultrakill-brick-throwing-brick-parry-gif-27624590

[high scaffold]

Brainstorm will look so much better overall than what we have now

[dusk bronze]

you are entirely correct

it's like bountiful harvest x10,000

[vivid hemlock]

i finally wont lag my pc when fighting aquatic scourge

(yes i get more lag from it than dog)

[jagged cliff]

Yes but calamity skyblock wont work and the games effectively unplayable

[wintry oriole]

hes cthulhu÷2

[high scaffold]

Calamity skyblock is for after calamity being ported to 1.4.5

[jagged cliff]

Crate ore nerfs bro...

[summer shore]

Aren't crate ore nerfs already live

[high scaffold]

1.4.5 will likely add a way to get hardmode ores on skyblock

[mystic eagle]

Wow you already can!

[dusk bronze]

not in calamity lore

[jagged cliff]

hes fovos in cal lore

[high scaffold]

And arent crates in calamity progress the same way the ore does?

[jagged cliff]

No

[wintry oriole]

titanium crates

?

[high scaffold]

Maybe not fishing way

We know basicaly nothing about 1.4.5 skyblock

[jagged cliff]

Probably from slime drops or something

1.4.5 modifies slimes a lot

[high scaffold]

Vanila ore slimes

[wintry oriole]

also whats the usual setup for calamity skyblock

like

is it just 1 block

or a little island like mc

[jagged cliff]

usually like a hellforge

and some other stuff

[high scaffold]

The one calamity skyblock most know is the 1 block of infernal suivete and hellforge on top

[wintry oriole]

i did see this

but

im too lazy to farm that many slimes

with 1 block

[jagged cliff]

thats the only way to get blocks

[high scaffold]

Jumping for rope slimes

[lean relic]

🔥 🔥

[quaint cloak]

WAS THAT THE PEAK OF 87?

[dull heart]

Ravager, Cultist, Clone, and like, death EoC

[summer shore]

Aweso

Scal not included?

[dull heart]

scal changes aren't major to her gameplay

[dusk bronze]

doze
in brainstorm does death have expdeath ai or masdeath ai

[summer shore]

didn't masdeath ai get murdered

[dusk bronze]

i think so but i just wanna be sure

[amber furnace]

I love ravager

[lapis oak]

MD AIs but adjusted

[dusk bronze]

[lapis oak]

It's basically not close to be the same anymore I think

And those most egregious examples are already shot dead

[dull heart]

masdeatg

but then we adjusted it

[summer shore]

Do rav nukes actually explode now instead of poofing

[lapis oak]

They do explode?

Tiny dust explosion

[summer shore]

yea that's what I mean by poofing

fairy dust ahh explosion

[lapis oak]

I only know that they will get a visual clue before exploding at least

Something like glowing red

[dull heart]

no they still poof I think

[lapis oak]

You know the super HD explosion effect that recent weapon reworks use a lot?

Wonder if it looks better pixelated or not

[cobalt wharf]

old tmod really just was like “ok here’s the line of code to copy paste for every explosion effect known to man, it always spawns 4 dumb dust clouds”

[dull heart]

I have a different explosion in mind

[lapis oak]

Wasn't really talking about Rav's Nukes I just brought it up because it's also a topic about explosion

[tribal isle]

will they get rid of true melee

[boreal pewter]

I will make all melee weapons fire projectiles

[tribal isle]

bliss

[dull heart]

I will make all projectiles fire true melee weapons

[tribal isle]

hell

[amber furnace]

bliss

[summer shore]

gru melee

[lapis oak]

Who stole the moon?

[placid kite]

yo kozz

[tribal isle]

sup

[boreal edge]

You

[dusk bronze]

ah so that's why qb was such bullshit

[lapis oak]

U are mean 😠

[boreal edge]

Hated on for speaking the truth

Tough world

[lapis oak]

welcome to Jamaica

[cobalt wharf]

what

[boreal edge]

Jamaican Me Crazy

[dull heart]

joe mama

[modern grove]

i love living on a planet with one stable functional moon that clearly hasnt been damaged by an impact with another planet

[summer shore]

I love moon

[mental cypress]

whata

[dull heart]

@lapis oak can you post the chart drive link + the chart I wanna pin it

[high scaffold]

Should I try spriting rogue helmets for hallowed and chlorophyte sets?

[lapis oak]

wait I need to

update my chart drive first it's kinda outdated

[dull heart]

ok

[lapis oak]

but why the Drive link?

people can just zoom in on Discord right

[dull heart]

so I don't have to replace the pin over and over if it updates

[lapis oak]

ah

[dusk bronze]

yeah totally

[dull heart]

also that

[lapis oak]

😭

[sand dome]

crunchy

[fathom girder]

munch

[high scaffold]

Minecraft enchantment table ah text

Sharpness IV
Durability II

[dusk bronze]

durability isn't an enchantment tupid
explode

/lh

[lapis oak]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1daeykBYB-2z7Xr3PixVajP-ucLh4qV0j?usp=sharing
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1468358454430269490/0._GIGA_CHART.png?ex=6983bae0&is=69826960&hm=5511c9967f2fc81737dd51e16347590ce712ab820161d23c7ea694f97370823b&

why is there a small Google Drive box in the bottom left it's bugging me off

[dusk bronze]

looks fine on mobile

@dull heart chart

[dull heart]

Wrap the link in < >

to disable embed

[lapis oak]

wow

ok one more trick learned

[high scaffold]

Remind me, is 1.4.5 port happens right after tmod 1.4.5 releases?

[dusk bronze]

couple months later prob

[hasty egret]

Shouldn’t exalted oathblade be post plaguebringer since you need infected armor plating?

[dusk bronze]

oh you're asking about calamity

uh idk

[high scaffold]

Maybe chlorophyte summoner helmet will make them finaly add rogue helmets for post mech armors

Or at least a replacement

[lapis oak]

retiered

[hasty egret]

Oh ok, thx

[lapis oak]

if the placements look unfamiliar to you it's because they're being retiered

[supple birch]

Hey I was gonna start a new calamity playthrough, haven't done one in a while and was wondering if there is some big potential update planned soon? Not snooping for dates but I just didn't wanna start a playthrough and be like "big update, now you might wanna start again!" 2 days later or smth ;-;

[high scaffold]

Yes

Brainstorm update

January-February

[dull heart]

Within about a month to month and a half

[supple birch]

thank you both!👍

[azure oak]

when did the lightspeed and hellkite sprites get shown

[spark kiln]

few days ago

[azure oak]

cool

[cold otter]

will ranger class be worth picking for the updated calamity playthrough?

[dusk bronze]

look at da chart and decide

(it's pinned now)

[azure oak]

i'm still doing ranged regardless

[dull heart]

I'd recommend doing a "use whatever looks cool" playthrough instead of a dedicated class playthrough

[lapis oak]

yes

play everything new

[dull heart]

But all classes have a lot of changes

[lapis oak]

then do classes later

[cold otter]

also will murasama get the rework?

[dull heart]

No

[azure oak]

ranged has a bunch of weapons i really wanna try

[dull heart]

You should try multiclass with chaos stone

[azure oak]

for once i actually wanna use the star cannon line

[high scaffold]

Its been a long time since last news about it

[misty wren]

i do classes just because it gives me an easy excuse for whatever vibe i want the playthrough to have

[cunning sequoia]

ive never actually done a mixed playthrough before

i just laser focused on melee in my first one

and then did classes since then

[lapis oak]

90% of reason for me doing 1 class playthrough is just because of the roleplay

[viral forum]

can anyone help me with this

[lapis oak]

10% is because I haven't done it for a long time

[cold otter]

I want to make a one year one world calamity world but Idk if sunken sea update and other mods won't destroy my world

[misty wren]

i did a mixed playthrough in my first terraria playthrough but ended up gravitating towards mage and then in cal i havent done a multiclass playthrough

[dull heart]

You have a mod installed incompatible with calamity atm

[viral forum]

does it say wich one

[dull heart]

No

[misty wren]

no

[fathom girder]

Good luck

[misty wren]

gotta disable them manually until you find the one thats incompatible

[viral forum]

😭

[high scaffold]

Vanillin is typing in the doc

[fathom girder]

Calamity should have a detector that scans for drunk princess mods and cause the error

[viral forum]

can you check my logs

[dull heart]

I can't rn

[fathom girder]

LMAO

[lapis oak]

insane out of context

[dull heart]

I don't know if it would be helpful anyway

[azure oak]

oh neat the doc got restructured

[misty wren]

it turbo sucks but we dont have any better ways

[viral forum]

is dawnmod compatible with calamity

[dusk bronze]

wrong channel, also what

[fathom girder]

Bro go disable your stuff

[viral forum]

my bad

[halcyon seal]

(This mod has a conflict with Calamity, but I will not solve the problem with Calamity, other mods may adapt)

literally the first thing on their steam page

[hot knot]

[robust plinth]

We got any guesses when in january-february the update coming

I crave calamity terraria

[dusk bronze]

probably a bit after 1.4.5 releases

or a bit before

[robust plinth]

Ohhh

[dusk bronze]

just not like
the same day

[robust plinth]

Thank you

Yeah that makes sense

[robust plinth]

This is for you

Kind person

[dusk bronze]

thanks

-# i think

[dense sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1001834418425577613/1459616838039113818/watermark.gif

this felt necessary

[boreal edge]

Is that the woodcock speech bubble

Okay it isn’t

[tropic jolt]

[hardy gulch]

why do i know the exact context of this award

[modern grove]

My amulet

[high scaffold]

What do we know about miracle matter changes besides the theme and wip designs?

The fact that it will be a direct continuation of elemental weapons and that it will be red and white

[azure oak]

miracle sawblade and miracle spear

[high scaffold]

Wonder if the crafts will still be "combine everything you collected so far"

Also boots becoming more viable in BS

No more wings in craft

[hot cedar]

have the slime god bug been reported yet?

[valid crypt]

I imagine so
Pretty prevalent bug

[modern grove]

slime god is indeed a bug

a very peculiar little critter

1.4.5 tomorrow

[hasty hawk]

several times

[lavish otter]

If it's the one where it kills itself if you move too far away from it, then I'm pretty sure there's a changelog mentioning that it's been fixed, now it's just a matter of if that fix will be implemented in Brainstorm or if it'll be added alongside the temporary rework in SSO

[dusty tinsel]

i think it woul probably be in brainstorm given that's all the none sso stuff that was origiunally in sso 1 right?

[hot cedar]

yes that's the one

[hasty hawk]

prob not rn as the fight was being redone from the start

however the fix is likely extremely easy

since its just changing the despawn/kill logic

[dusty tinsel]

if it was in he changelogs as being fixed wouldn't that mean it's done or did they uh like redo stuff since then making it no longer valid?

[lavish otter]

There's a bunch of non-SS stuff that isn't close enough to finished to make it for Brainstorm reportedly, but I'm not fully sure since...yeah, the fix wasn't inherent to the rework itself I don't think, so it wouldn't have to be saved for that

[hasty hawk]

was it?

[dusty tinsel]

someone mentioned it was, so maybe they were wrong

[hasty hawk]

i do not see it in changelogs

[dusty tinsel]

oh apparantly it was in the 2.0.4.003 changelogs

#8

[lavish otter]

Ohhhh, that's what I saw

[dusty tinsel]

that changelog says fixed slime god core killing itself when attemping to desapwn

i think that was a released update though

[lavish otter]

So...I have a feeling it wasn't done✅

[dusty tinsel]

it says it was

but clearly fabsol didn't do it properly 😂

if it's still a problem

[hot cedar]

[high scaffold]

Elemental weapon reworks respites and renames

All in BS

Lightspeed full rework, 2 resprites and plenty renames

[pearl sentinel]

cant trust the ✅ considering the astral undergrowth changelog

[high scaffold]

Also arsenal rework with entirety of t1 and great amount from other tiers all in BS

And new electricity debuffs yay

Finaly will be more then 1

And a new water debuff

[vestal osprey]

So are all the drops from the brimstone crag post providence only now coming from buffed ravager

[high scaffold]

What do you mean exactly

Blood stone is still blood stone

"post buffed ravager" in kiris chart just means bloostone

Dont remember hearing anything saying it wont drop from crags enemies anymore

[misty wren]

Eventually™ it wont but that requires ravager retier

[lime frigate]

yo the rever shark is at 59 power how do i fix it

[hasty hawk]

disabling addons

[lime frigate]

any yk that would cause it

[hasty hawk]

although desptie that and it being nerfed next patch anyways you can still get early hellstone with crags chests and hell lab

[hasty hawk]

Unnerfs Calamity maybe

or Fargo's Souls dlc

[lime frigate]

what would it be under yk

[hasty hawk]

idk smth saying Reaver Shark

cuz unnerfs Calamity removes a ton of Calamity's changes to vanilla stuff

so it likely does to Reaver Shark too

[lime frigate]

well i can rule out unnerfs bc i dont have that installed

[hasty hawk]

anyways this aint the proper channel

[hasty tangle]

didnt someone already tell you it was cal overhaul

[hasty hawk]

ah is it one of those guys that ask in every channel

[rancid pagoda]

Calamity Overhaul is the other one

[lime frigate]

sorry what channal is it

[hasty hawk]

#help-advice-read-pins

altho Cal Overhaul apparently also nerfs Reaver back

only good thing it does

[rancid pagoda]

...what

[hasty hawk]

otherwise its full of bugs or content stolen from Stars Above, Minecraft mods, etc

[hasty hawk]

nerfing Reaver Shark back to 59%

[rancid pagoda]

weird thing to call good

[misty wren]

it is a good change

[hasty hawk]

The unnerf was Fab's fault and no dev (current or former) could do anything about it despite no one liking it; and now that he's gone its gonna be nerfed back in Brainstorm or SSO

[pulsar cobalt]

we need to kill the stupid shark

[misty wren]

@ cit

we need to kill you

[rancid pagoda]

progression skippers in uproar

[pulsar cobalt]

@boreal edge kills you

[pulsar cobalt]

you can still get hellstone without the shark

[misty wren]

theres already other methods for the same skip

[hasty hawk]

altho yea you can still get early hellstone but its harder

tbh its better that its harder instead of just going to fish for a pickaxe

[cunning sequoia]

calamity is generally culling all the "skip this by fishing for 30 hours"

[rancid pagoda]

no you don't understand, the other methods require shimmer and oneblock doesn't have that until moon lord

[cunning sequoia]

oneblock is also a self imposed challenge

[hasty hawk]

iirc oneblock is getting another method for hellstone anyways (also how tf did you even get hellstone on oneblock if you needed Reaver shark despite hellstone not generating)

[rancid pagoda]

shimmer skips are a bit too prevalent tbh

[misty wren]

fishing skips are cool and all but in current calamity So Fucking Many of them are just fishing

[rancid pagoda]

fishing or shimmer is all you need, yay very fun gameplay

[hasty hawk]

and now Cal will make finding shimmer free

[pulsar cobalt]

fuck you check out wof skip

[hasty hawk]

WoF skip is cooler anyways it needs shimmer tho

[pulsar cobalt]

it needs shimmer for the first part

[hasty hawk]

oh and Rox is going to be easier to find too

[pulsar cobalt]

everything other than that is original

[cunning sequoia]

the solution is for calamity make you spawn with a shimmer bucket

[rancid pagoda]

gate shimmering rox behind wof

[misty wren]

good change

[pulsar cobalt]

we love rox shrine

[cunning sequoia]

roxcalibur, my favorite ore

[hasty hawk]

easier to find due to being bigger

instead of 6 fucking tiles

spawn range also reduced iirc

[pulsar cobalt]

finding rox without spelunker

[misty wren]

2x3 tile with a spawn range of half of your world? incredible!

[pulsar cobalt]

at least it prioritises spawning by the dungeon !!

[fathom girder]

Rox being easier while still being a bad weapon 🔥

maybe grape beer will fix it

I'm just waiting for a rox upgrade that gets rid of the rock and becomes an actual sword

that would be swag

[hasty hawk]

Grape beer is for ranger stuff

[fathom girder]

grape beer works for everything

[blazing field]

Don't make him bald ..

[fathom girder]

rox sucks man

There is just

[blazing field]

Rox being in da rock is what makes it unique and funny if you remove that it's just another generic sword to the pile

[fathom girder]

not enough reason to go hunting for it

[blazing field]

Then shrimply make it Worth it ....

[fathom girder]

I'm not a dev I can't buff it

[amber furnace]

im waiting for a roxcalibur upgrade that removes the ugly and boring part of the weapon and leaves just the rock instead

[fathom girder]

you have brick for that sir

[amber furnace]

did I say brixcalibur?

[fathom girder]

...touche

[shut ridge]

I think I actually found the roxcalibur on my first playthrough pre hardmode

which is kind of funny

[amber furnace]

I found the roxcalibur in phm a couple times

like 3

[fathom girder]

roxcalibur should be a legendary weapon

[shut ridge]

I've never found it since

[dusk bronze]

true

[polar tide]

where are you getting this impression

[dull heart]

?? what

[fathom girder]

what

are you telling me that

[fathom girder]

for the past five hundred times I've talked about how it would break like

mage weapons

you just never like

okay

[dull heart]

i have never seen you talk about it on mage weapons

[fathom girder]

as a calamity player I cannot read

[dull heart]

that i'm aware of

[fathom girder]

lmao

[barren nacelle]

I’m curious does it make non conventional ranged weapons home

[fathom girder]

literally every time I've talked about it it was like an all class thing

that's funny

[dull heart]

it gives arrows, bullets, rockets, and darts homing

[barren nacelle]

Like Pumpler pumpkins or the striker’s bolts

[fathom girder]

I shrimply cannot read ig

gg

[barren nacelle]

I didn’t know if that was intentionally specific or not

[dull heart]

that was intentionally specific yes

[barren nacelle]

Grape Beer laced with Fentanyl that removes all projectile homing

[amber egret]

wait this seems insane

by how much does it reduce a crit

bc a crit is still a crit, its still a base boost to damage

[amber furnace]

are there any beverages coming for true melee

or anything thats kinda like glass cannon

[barren nacelle]

True melee is getting phased out

[lapis oak]

just read my guy

[barren nacelle]

Like as a concept

[dull heart]

this implies that reducing crit dmg isn't a big deal

but it defintiely is

[amber egret]

i mean

i normally go lucky instead of menacing in msot cases

a crits a double to damage right

its like a major boost

[dull heart]

yeah

[amber egret]

so reducing it in trade for more consistant hits feels quite powerful especially on things like uhhh

whats the gun that fires for 30 seconds flat

the kingsbane or something? it dropped from moonlord as a malice drop in the past i think

fires in a helix

[lapis oak]

There's no guns like that

[grave rock]

https://tenor.com/view/gotg-what-chris-pratt-starlord-guardians-of-the-galaxy-gif-11287925

[dull heart]

i should make sure grape beer doesn't just powercreep chloro bullets entirely on tier

[sly delta]

infinity?

[amber egret]

yes thats it

[lapis oak]

Infinity doesn't do that

[sly delta]

i mean its not 30 seconds but it does shoot hella bullets everywhere

[barren nacelle]

I think you’re fusing old Infinity and Kingsbane

[amber egret]

that was probably it

[lapis oak]

Also no

[amber egret]

i did mention it being a malice drop

yup i was right

[sly delta]

ah

[amber egret]

it was a moon lord drop in malice

im so smart

anyways

yes

grape beer + insane amount of bullet = lotta damage

so -crit damage aint that bad

[sly delta]

how aggresive is the homing gonna be

[amber egret]

visually i think like uhh

fuckin insane comparison do you know spectre mask spirit orb homing

i mentally envision it as that

[sly delta]

is it gonna be like bullet filled shotgun turns into a beam level of homing or just like they still spread but lock on to enemies that get close

[amber egret]

please the former itd be so funny

[halcyon seal]

bullet filled shotgun but actually good

[sly delta]

and uh... what happens with infinite pierce projectiles

[amber egret]

they pierce forever

or they just run outta uptime

[sly delta]

do they just start camping the enemies

shoots halibut cannon with luminite/godslayer kills pc immediately

[high scaffold]

2.1 soon

Draedon labs change

Tile resprites

Weapon and accessory reworks

[dull heart]

right now grape beer is set to -75% crit damage from my testing

so

[high scaffold]

Nice

[valid crypt]

Does that make crits reduce damage

[dull heart]

no

[amber egret]

2.1.1 leaked patch note
Fixed a bug where Halibut Cannon couldn't shoot bullets on low frame rates

[dull heart]

200% to 125% crit dmg

[high scaffold]

Does it affect crit added damage?

[valid crypt]

Ah

[amber egret]

source: trust

[high scaffold]

Was typing too long

[grave geyser]

might not actually be broken

no way

[amber egret]

hm

i mean my issue is that you can just Not go a crit build

[high scaffold]

So it doesnt reduce crit damage overall but rather bonus to damage from crit

[high scaffold]

Crit is important tho

[grave geyser]

this is a concern but I think it'l probably be fine
most ranger accessories give a good mix of crit and damage, so it'l be difficult to find items that just give a lot of raw damage

[amber egret]

Menacing

[high scaffold]

Substantial part of late game dps comes from crits

[grave geyser]

like, you have ranger emblem, and like, rtn later on as your 2 big 15% boosts
and then the rest is all generally lower

[lyric trellis]

Grape beer with purity from Infernum

[amber egret]

truth supernova

[grave geyser]

thats infernums problem :]

[amber egret]

i was thinking that exact thing

[high scaffold]

Something like half of all damage as crit chance approaches 100%

[lyric trellis]

Exactly

But I think it's fine

[amber egret]

yea but most weapons often have inaccuracy problems

[lyric trellis]

After all the defense nerfs it's only fair

[amber egret]

so they COULD do damage

[lyric trellis]

Also you still have to kill night Provi lol

[amber egret]

it'd be like dummytest but on Bosses.

[high scaffold]

Bosses arent small

[torn cairn]

how far into the game grape beer is again?

[dull heart]

hardmode

[amber egret]

bosses are very Homing though

you can Home them

[torn cairn]

yeah but like early hm or late

[grave geyser]

mpg's first time playing a version where tank is bad (until the ultimate cheese is found and then its back to usual)

[torn cairn]

chloro is like early - mid

[grave geyser]

right at the start
grapes are from hardmode jungle enemies

[amber egret]

you could intheory get chloro bullets

OR using homing uhhh

homing whats the fuckin

the rainbow bullet

[torn cairn]

right yeah i just checked

[amber egret]

the one that looks like a rainbow flaming marble

hyperius

homing hyperius bullets

[dull heart]

grape beer homing

[torn cairn]

i suppose the crit damage nerf will be big enough to justify using chloro

[dull heart]

been reworked

[dull heart]

yeah it is

[amber egret]

homing crystal, then

[dull heart]

crystal shards don't home

[amber egret]

thats really noticable actually

[dull heart]

only the primary weapon fires

[amber egret]

oh so nothing that the bulelt produces

homing high velocity??

whats a high damage bullet

[high scaffold]

In late game grape bear could potentialy nerf your dps by about 30-35%

[dull heart]

it does work on stuff like that though

[amber egret]

that is incredibly noticable

thats good!

whats legally a bullet/arrow

[high scaffold]

Seems like its not a grape beer but rather a mega skill issue beer

[grave geyser]

I still have concerns about grape beer but I'll wait until the update is actually out

[torn cairn]

that's the advantage it has over chloro since it works with arrows and other projectiles

that's pretty cool

[still bluff]

Removing all crit from ranger is a big hit tbh
It's like using chloro bullets into post ML, it's only really good if you can't aim

[dull heart]

yeah

[still bluff]

or the weapon is super inaccurate

[dull heart]

it's really not super strong

[amber egret]

it sounds quite good

[still bluff]

Astreal defeat

[amber egret]

idk i dont really value crits all that much since i often go full warding

mmmarrrksman bullet.

[high scaffold]

Reminder that like half of lategame weapons already home

[dull heart]

crits are still at least 30-40% of your dmg even without investment

on ranger

[amber egret]

coin + homing marksman bullet

[still bluff]

Ranger still gets like 60% often lol

[amber egret]

?

[still bluff]

Unless you're ignoring all damage accs

[amber egret]

throw coins directly at the stream of bullets

[dull heart]

with just recon scope, destroyer emblem, and wrath/rage pot crits are 37% of my dps

i think

lemme double check that math

or well

[amber egret]

Wait.

[dull heart]

crits are +37% dps

[amber egret]

Homing Hailstorm Bullet.

[dull heart]

what does hailstorm even do in public? idk if it's been reworked in dev or not

[amber egret]

the bullets slow down in air, so if a boss moves forward then back whenst they came

[grave geyser]

mmmmm

[amber egret]

they're post frostmoon

[dull heart]

lowkey i've been considering making grape beer -100% crit dmg

because it would be funny

[amber egret]

it should boost base damage if it does that

[dull heart]

no it shouldn't

it's entire point is to make you deal less dmg but not have to aim

[amber egret]

the drop of damage would be a bit too significant no

losing all crits thats like what

40% dps loss

thats mana flower levels of losing

[dull heart]

it gives you full focus on the boss though

[sly delta]

i mean atp just a direct damage nerf would be better instead of outright removing critical damage

[dull heart]

and it makes some weapons work much much more consistently

[amber egret]

yea but for most everyone itd be just unusable no?

they could use chloro atp

[grave geyser]

????

[dull heart]

chloro doesn't home as well

[high scaffold]

"I cannot aim, please make grape beer not reduce crit chance" is what I hear

[dull heart]

or as large

or with arrows/darts/rockets

[sly delta]

ig the point is so that it doesny just work with everything

[amber egret]

i can aim, im speaking generally

non sequitur

[pulsar cobalt]

i think itd be funny if grape beer reduced damage if it reduces ur crit below zero

[grave geyser]

mana flower loses you like 8% dps in like, ideal circumstances

[amber egret]

??

[sly delta]

starts healing the enemies on crit

[amber egret]

where are we getting that last i checked it was far more dramatic

[grave geyser]

even if the weapon litterally does not have downtime with using mana regen

dest emblem is only barely better

[dull heart]

chicken cannon rocket 2/4 doesn't break tiles what is this trash

[pulsar cobalt]

using homing weapons too so like

[sly delta]

i mean unless ur blowing thru ur entire mana bar in 2 seconds u wont really get to the -40% damage from mana sickness

[pulsar cobalt]

tester variance most likely wont occur

[high scaffold]

Grape beers homing seems insanely strong so -75% is fair but imo needs less strong homing

[grave geyser]

make it work with wet rockets it would be really funny

[dull heart]

like chloro bullets might be better with regular guns than grape beer but

they can't do this

[pulsar cobalt]

thats hilarious

[amber egret]

why would you need to do that is the issue

[grave geyser]

pre nerf red rocket flashbacks

[amber egret]

its the uhhh

chaser v boomerang cuphead issue

[dull heart]

celeb mk2 is pretty inaccurate

[amber egret]

ones consistant but its damage is hot ass, vs less consistant but the damage is way better

[dull heart]

plus then again you don't need to aim much

[amber egret]

if you cant aim as a ranger im failing to understand why you'd be playing ranger