calamity-update-talk

[orchid finch]

Guys now let me ask a real question, how is all of this related to Calamity's upcoming update?

[mystic eagle]

I continuously used springs to launch myself from place to place

[halcyon seal]

calamity ganon

[orchid finch]

Not a sturdy enough argument

[mystic eagle]

Because

Yharim

[pseudo vector]

i mean i used that in late game but for ground traversal i used my horse

[dull heart]

calamity ganon

[pseudo vector]

idk it was my first experience with a game like botw / totk so i just played it how i wanted to play it

[orchid finch]

I should've stayed in my bed

[pseudo vector]

and i had a really fun 80+ hour experience

[orchid finch]

I really need to get back to BotW

[mystic eagle]

My first TotK playtrough was like 100 hours and I was actually invested in the worldbuilding (even the story)

[orchid finch]

But I'd probably have to start over if anything

[pseudo vector]

using stuff you come up with instead of the "meta" is always the more enjoyable way to play the game

and that applies to terraria too

[white aurora]

i completed every shrine without cheesing any of them i think

[fierce nebula]

I have over 300 hours in totk and 100%d it

[white aurora]

because it would be boring doing the same thing for every shrine

ngl

[mystic eagle]

I cheesed some shrines but only after doing the shrine already

[calm ingot]

You could play TotK using only the optimal strategies but then you’d miss out on stuff like this

[dull heart]

I cheesed only the shrines I didn't want to deal with

[fierce nebula]

Nobody did these things outside of youtube videos buddy

[pseudo vector]

you don't know that lol

[calm ingot]

I did

[dull heart]

I did

[halcyon seal]

you didnt do these things outside of youtube videos

[mystic eagle]

You don't like sandbox elements do you?

[dull heart]

I built a lot of very silly things

[orchid finch]

I won't lie, I am playing on an emulator
And so basically in BotW there was a single shrine where you had to move the Switch to trigger the gyros and move the ball on the platform
But my gamepad didn't support that and the only way I had was using mouse and rmb, but it'd only move it in two planes and so I had to ridiculously flick the ball to get it to its goal lmao

[pseudo vector]

like i came up with this goofy ass multiclass build for calamitas clone while i was testing her and it was lowkey some of the most fun i've had testing a boss lmao

[past coyote]

I made a homing missile in totk

[fierce nebula]

This isn’t structured like a sandbox game

[calm ingot]

I have a ton of random clips of stupid shit I made and I had fun

[halcyon seal]

ive been experimenting more with goofier builds recently

like i have one thats just Fuck It, Every Movement Accessory for pre-boss

[mystic eagle]

Yeah yeah and Terraria is a 3d kart racer

[pseudo vector]

doze knows what i'm talking about cuz i showed him the build

[halcyon seal]

its like shadow armor + magi + vital jelly + sandstorm + frostspark + stress pills

[dull heart]

totk is literally entirely an open world sandbox game though, how is it not structured like one

[fierce nebula]

You are fully pushed into playing the game as efficiently as possible because that’s how the game is designed

[dull heart]

no?

[pseudo vector]

no?

[halcyon seal]

ive been thinking about some laudanum builds, i think that accessory has a LOT of potential

[orchid finch]

Speaking of funny Terraria builds, I've decided to do a first hybrid build in a while, Rogue + Summoner my goat

[dull heart]

I never felt like I was forced to play efficient

[pseudo vector]

that's literally not how the game is designed

[dull heart]

how does a game even force you to play efficient in general besides just making you lose if you don't

[mystic eagle]

I killed a lynel with just Sticks once

[calm ingot]

Terraria is actually a mini golf game

[pseudo vector]

that might just be a you problem i'll be honest

[halcyon seal]

tbf that golf is weirdly fun

[orchid finch]

Remember: AstralSpiff killed BotW lynel with just rubber hammers

Or whatever they're called

[past coyote]

Crazy video

[pseudo vector]

cuz no one else i've talked to has ever approached totk in the most hyperefficient way

[halcyon seal]

i remember beating a lynel to death with a boulder once

[midnight beacon]

AstralSpiff mentioned

[fierce nebula]

Then they’re playing it wrong

[midnight beacon]

Cave diver moment

[fierce nebula]

That’s on them for being stupid

[pseudo vector]

okay?

[mystic eagle]

Don't those deal like 1 damage

(I meant a Silver Lynel, not a normal one)

[midnight beacon]

Suddenly a

BOULDER

[halcyon seal]

man wait until you hear about how people play minecraft

[fierce nebula]

Minecraft is a sandbox game

Totk is not

[mystic eagle]

You don't have to call people stupid for not playing the game the way you do

[calm ingot]

If you don’t beat the ender dragon in 5 minutes what are you even doing with your life

[past coyote]

Should we move this to general talk?

[orchid finch]

How is it not, you're literally given tools to create whatever you want

[fathom girder]

zach plays elden ring with strength builds only

[calm ingot]

You should uninstall Minecraft if you don’t do that

[orchid finch]

By the rules yes

[fierce nebula]

I know damn well the only reason this game gets praise is because it’s a nintendo game so it can do no wrong

[orchid finch]

It should be genmedia actually

[fierce nebula]

Why would I do that though

[past coyote]

I’m a law abiding citizen (sometimes)

[orchid finch]

Why are you playing games then

[halcyon seal]

Dude have you seen prime 4’s reception

[mystic eagle]

Do you minmax terraria?

[halcyon seal]

People hate that game

[pseudo vector]

i don't hate prime 4

[mystic eagle]

Guess why people hate that?

It's the TotK hate train all over again!

[pseudo vector]

its fine

[fierce nebula]

Rightfully so

[pseudo vector]

i like it

i only have a small number of problems with prime 4 and they don't bother me too much

[fierce nebula]

No, people are actually allowed to not like things

[pseudo vector]

[fierce nebula]

Crazy idea I know

[halcyon seal]

I mean maybe the hate is justified, I wouldn’t know, I haven’t played it and my switch hasn’t been used in 2 years

[mystic eagle]

My honest feelings on MP4 are
it's dissapointing just like TotK

TotK is a top 5 game for me

Metroid Prime 4, despite not being as good as the rest of the series, it's still good

[past coyote]

I’m excited for the ravager rework it looks cool

[modern grove]

I hate all games

[cunning sequoia]

i hate all of you

EVERyone

[mystic eagle]

They should form their own opinion and not just listen to the opinions of others and pretend like it's a religiion

[halcyon seal]

I hate every game except for Pajama Sam

[fierce nebula]

I like totk but I think the game is objectively awful and people have to stop defending its shitty design

[pseudo vector]

okay?

[fierce nebula]

You’re allowed to enjoy bad games

[mystic eagle]

If their own opinion that they formed says they don't like MP4, then it is valid.

[modern grove]

You're not allowed to enjoy bad games the bad game police (me) is going to punish you

[calm ingot]

All I see online is people shitting on TotK anymore
I think it’s still a good game despite tons of flaws and things it didn’t improve on at all from Botw or even made worse like ability to cheese everything

[cunning sequoia]

qualityslop

[white aurora]

so true

[modern grove]

And all games are bad

[fierce nebula]

Yeah and you just made a blanket statement saying that people who don’t like the game are following a trend

[storm timber]

never played totk and know nothing about it but I think it's the worst thing ever made and should be banned

[modern grove]

So no matter what you enjoy

[mystic eagle]

I agree

[dull heart]

now try it with BS forbidden rogue set

[vivid hemlock]

5 million qol mods that remove all human interaction with the game (also aureus gets deleted)

[modern grove]

I will getcha

[cunning sequoia]

this reminds me of when sonic fans suddenly decided that sonic mania is actually bad

[orchid finch]

Sounds like fun

[halcyon seal]

Fuck “you’re allowed to like bad games”, we gotta talk about how you’re allowed to dislike good games

[dull heart]

it's definitely not objectively awful, it's just not your preferences

[halcyon seal]

Like elden ring

[pseudo vector]

i like totk, its not perfect yeah but i had a lot of fun with it and overall thought it was a great experience
i didn't play botw so i didn't have the pretense going in but as an entry level game its very enjoyable

[orchid finch]

I guess I am unconsciously building towards it

[fierce nebula]

Goomba fallacy?

[halcyon seal]

Elden Ring fucking sucks imo

[mystic eagle]

This is an observation I've made for both the TotK and MP4 hate trains.
The game is received as good, until someone makes a rant video about it and everyone hops in

[rotund charm]

any expected release date for 2.1?

[halcyon seal]

I didn’t like it so much I haven’t played it in like a year and a half

[halcyon seal]

January-February ish?

[mystic eagle]

[dull heart]

like the crate changes

[white aurora]

what

[cunning sequoia]

true!

[storm timber]

people are allowed to have opinions even if they're completely WRONG like yours

[halcyon seal]

Coward

[fierce nebula]

Why do you think people make negative videos on games

[mystic eagle]

People are allowed to have opinions only if they are the same as mine

[dull heart]

I have not enjoyed a single minute of elden ring

[fierce nebula]

Because they don’t like it

[dull heart]

(I have never played elden ring)

[halcyon seal]

Go play ds3 instead

That’s a good ass game

[pseudo vector]

i haven't played elden ring either but i do want to play it at some point

[dull heart]

don't starve 3

[mystic eagle]

I never said anything negative about the rant videos, I only said that some people just see the video and join in the hate train without considering forming their own opinion with their own experiences.

[cunning sequoia]

i wanna play all of the fromsoft games eventually

[dull heart]

now with extra deerclops

[fierce nebula]

The overwhelming majority of people think totk is a good game so this hate train isn’t a real thing

[dull heart]

oops (the evolution)

[halcyon seal]

I also need to play more fromsoft games

[cunning sequoia]

unfortunately they're expensive and shit and like never go on sale below 20% or something

[storm timber]

armored core 3

[pseudo vector]

the soulsborne genre is one that i'm honestly really intimidated by and i don't know which one to start with

[calm ingot]

Rollslop (Elden ring is probably my 2nd favorite game ever made)

[halcyon seal]

Like sekiro and bloodborne I still need to play

[mystic eagle]

You're so blisfully ignorant to the point where I admire it

[past coyote]

Is bossrush ever going to be updated or have a proper reward?

[dull heart]

no I think they're right

[halcyon seal]

I started with dark souls remastered

Heavily recommend it

[dull heart]

It's a vocal minority that think totk sucks

[halcyon seal]

It’s a very bad game but in a VERY good way

[dull heart]

except if you ask about specific aspects

[proven locust]

what game

[storm timber]

dark souls 1 is a very good game it's just dated

[dull heart]

like a LOT of people think totk lore sucks for example

[proven locust]

someone made a boss rush mod

[calm ingot]

Ok well tbf it does

[proven locust]

I loved totk

[dull heart]

actually I've never heard anyone say totk lore is foid

[calm ingot]

But I don’t care

[dull heart]

Good

[pseudo vector]

very likely yeah cuz we also think its not great in its current state
unfortunately we haven't figured out the specifics of that yet

[dull heart]

but you can not like lore and love the game still

[mystic eagle]

I think it's decent at best, not good, not bad

[proven locust]

yeah the purple guy ruined alot

[past coyote]

Alright I look forward to the ideas.

[dull heart]

I don't like totk as much as botw though

[calm ingot]

Age of imprisonment kinda fixes the TotK lore

[proven locust]

i preferred

[dull heart]

I wish totk didn't just delete some of my favorite botw stuff (guardians)

[mystic eagle]

Some people just expect everything in a game to be specifically tailored and served to them on a silver platter

[cunning sequoia]

the who...

[halcyon seal]

Actually that’s a bad way of putting it it’s more like

[past coyote]

I just wish the master sword was better in Totk and never got ride of the guardians

[halcyon seal]

DS1 is good in a very unique way

Never really seen anything like it

Even in ds3

[dull heart]

totk I found the master sword very good tbh

[pseudo vector]

i really liked the obtaining method for the master sword in totk

pulling it from zelda dragon's head was awesome

[mystic eagle]

It's better in TotK as it can use Fuse and has more durability than most other weapons

[dull heart]

it was a easily disposable but still strong weapon I could fuse whatever to

[past coyote]

I loved the method but the sword is bugged atm with durability

[pseudo vector]

also fusing stuff to the master sword was funny

[dull heart]

yeah master sword only getting fuse bonus once sucks

[calm ingot]

Everybody knows the master sword is just for cutting grass and smashing shit

[mystic eagle]

Fusing the hudson cardboard cutout to the Master Sword

[dull heart]

Master sword with a shard of light dragon spike is peak

[mystic eagle]

The hit healing strategy

[dull heart]

my favorite fuse combo in total was hylian shield with frost talus heart though

[past coyote]

Oh yea I love the light dragon master sword combos

[dull heart]

that thing absurd

[dull heart]

Specifically shard of spike so it counts as a hammer

[mystic eagle]

What does it do

[pseudo vector]

oh yeah i think i used that against ganondorf

just a shit ton of damage

[mystic eagle]

oh alr

[pseudo vector]

it actually beat the everloving shit out of ganondorf whenever i could get combos in

[past coyote]

Light horn + master sword is a gannon killer

[pseudo vector]

and it felt awesome

[mystic eagle]

Royal Halberd + Silver Lynel Horn

[calm ingot]

My favorite fuse combo is whatever this is that I did before it was patched

[dull heart]

Using the parry attack can freeze enemies, break ores, and make ice platforms in water sometime (freezing enemies is huuuge)

wearing it cools you down so you don't get too hot

[pseudo vector]

LOL

[pseudo vector]

this is so peak

[mystic eagle]

wtf lmao

[dull heart]

This is so peak wait

[past coyote]

I like and shield+flame talus heart because you can parry bombs as you spawn them

[dull heart]

I prefer frost overall but that one's also so good

[fierce nebula]

It was a bug nintendo patched because they hate fun

[dull heart]

I also really like my Rare Talus Heart on a Knight's Claymore and then getting to 1 heart and just 4 shotting taluses

[pseudo vector]

the totk discussion should probably move to #general-media but i don't think i'll be hopping over there lol

[dull heart]

Go my 120 dmg talus Obliterator

[past coyote]

I concur

[pseudo vector]

i've said what i wanted to about the game

[past coyote]

I don’t want to get in trouble but even the devs are doing this lmao

[pearl sentinel]

i wish totk didnt just say "yeah the stuff just went away since it isnt needed anymore"

[pseudo vector]

i like it, i think its fun and i think the bosses are awesome

[dull heart]

so true

[pearl sentinel]

put the divine beasts in the depths you cowards

[dull heart]

and then ancient arrows stayed bc haha funny itsm

[calm ingot]

Put literally anything in the depths pls

[fierce nebula]

Totk’s story gets worse and more plotholes become apparent the more you look into it

[past coyote]

Is ravager rework planned for sunken sea update or after?

[vivid hemlock]

after

[dull heart]

It's not planned for sunken sea

[pseudo vector]

(okay please move totk talk to #general-media now btw lol)

[pseudo vector]

it'll be its own update later

[past coyote]

Ok

[pseudo vector]

its big enough overall to warrant its own update

considering the plans we have for it

[past coyote]

I’m excited to see what is planned for that

[dull heart]

go my sun that is vengeful

[orchid finch]

You're blue now

[halcyon seal]

This shit not vengeful

[dull heart]

it is vengeful

[mystic eagle]

that's my special attack!

[orchid finch]

No, really, why was my first thought "this is literally orange and blue attacks from Underate"

[dull heart]

peak

[orchid finch]

Undertale

[dull heart]

summon that can only hit enemy when they stand still fire emoji

[past coyote]

I also really love the murasama rework idea it looks incredible

[orchid finch]

So never

[dull heart]

It's great on ravager!

[fathom girder]

Good for yharon then

he likes to sit still after TPs

[orchid finch]

Oh yeah, Ravager, of course

[pseudo vector]

chat here's one of my cats btw

[past coyote]

Cute

[pearl sentinel]

did you know that during the papyrus date theres a 0.1% chance for him to get vaporized by a stray solar flare and upon happening he will be absent from all future playthroughs

[fathom girder]

creachur

[orchid finch]

Doze what can you say about blossom staves, are they good or nah?

[halcyon seal]

How could this relate to calamity mod?

[dull heart]

they blossom

[orchid finch]

No way

[dull heart]

should I spoil something hmm

[orchid finch]

I mean if you feel like it idk

You'll definitely be spoiling us regardless

[fathom girder]

spoil the brainstorm beta file...

[pearl sentinel]

i also have a cat this flavor shes with me rn

much less floof

[orchid finch]

Too big for non-Nitro

Oh wait the server is boosted

Uuuh

[fathom girder]

YEAH

WHAT NOW

Now he HAS to

[orchid finch]

The file is over 100mb

Shrimply

[hasty tangle]

CAlamiTy

[dull heart]

guess someone just has to gift me more nitro

[fathom girder]

brainstorm for 55 dollar

[orchid finch]

Hey CJ watch this

[dull heart]

(ignore that I have nitro)

[orchid finch]

Nitro!

(that was an obscure reference alright)

[pearl sentinel]

enter my wonderful world of brainstorm spoilers
yes doze
give me 5 dollars
no doze

[dull heart]

new nitro extortion method

hold spoilers hostage

[pseudo vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674691299227467785/1304931922652303381/obraz_2024-11-09_231317824.gif

[orchid finch]

What the hell is this ransom for an image from the internet duh

[halcyon seal]

$50 for brainstorm or $10 for brainstorm

Interesting proposition

[orchid finch]

At this rate I'm gonna be leaking Brainstorm myself

[dull heart]

smh

[orchid finch]

Ignore the fact that I have no access to it

[tropic jolt]

start a storm inside your brain

it will come to you

[orchid finch]

I'm afraid that's not healthy

Anyway

[dull heart]

I could fix that

I won't

but I could

[orchid finch]

What I really should be brainstorming is how to fall asleep or at least properly wake up tomorrow

[orchid finch]

Bummer

[dull heart]

I should be brainstorming how to get the last sereniel memory fragment I need to get over 60% crit rate in czn

[orchid finch]

Jesse what in heavens are you talking about

[grave geyser]

you should be WHAT

[orchid finch]

That's

Literally the joke that's been made

[fathom girder]

say that again

[orchid finch]

Bruh 🥀

[amber furnace]

you should be WHAAAAAAT⁉️⁉️⁉️

[hasty tangle]

where's brain storm weaver

[dull heart]

getting 60% crit rate on sereniel

[orchid finch]

I will never understand people who play gachas

I tried playing LC, got to like end of first act of Canto 3 and then dropped it because, idk, guess it's just not my type of games

[dull heart]

treating gacha as a genre is a little silly

I like czn because of the core gameplay of it being a roguelite deckbuilder

[orchid finch]

I see

Well yeah it is unfair that I'm generalizing them

[dull heart]

gacha games are all very different but if your issue is with the monetization model then yeah it makes sense to not like them as a whole

[orchid finch]

But it's that I haven't seen a lot of them

[dull heart]

fair

I play a couple (zenless zone zero and chaos zero nightmare)

why do so many gacha games have names like that

what I enjoy about gachas is I can often play them for free while still getting quality of a game that isn't free and not having 1000 ads

[orchid finch]

Like tbf I'm playing:
Cyberpunk
Yakuza
Terraria
And sometimes I play something new, like I'm currently doing NFS:MW

[dull heart]

my brain keeps auto completing that as NSFW and I have to tell myself "no that's not what they wrote"

[orchid finch]

Anyway uuuh

[fierce nebula]

Are gacha games not just based around gambling

[mystic eagle]

Zavarski why are you playing NSFW games

[orchid finch]

I am a grown man I can do whatever I want

[dull heart]

that is the monetization model, yes, but that says absolutely nothing about the gameplay of them

[mystic eagle]

Xenoblade Chronicles 2

[modern grove]

Why were you playing lunatic cultist

[fierce nebula]

What

[mystic eagle]

Xenoblade 2 is a Gacha game as one of its main game mechanics is the gacha (albeit free ofc)

[fierce nebula]

When people say gacha game I’m pretty sure they’re referring to games that cost money to gamble

[dull heart]

gacha is the mechanic of pulling for things and hoping you get them

xb2 is absolutely a gacha game it just doesn't monetize with it

Which is really weird and funny

like... I see no reason to use the system like they doif it's not being monetized

[mystic eagle]

Making sure every playtrough is different

[dull heart]

I guess that's true

[mystic eagle]

(unless you don't interact with the gacha mechanic, making the game impossible )

[dull heart]

Xb2 doesn't strike me as a gane meant to have much replay value though

it's a linear story driven RPG whether or not it has the gacha

But idk

it also has like 14 hours of cutscenes lol

[mystic eagle]

I mean I suppose that's a valid thought

[mystic eagle]

14 hours of main story cutscenes*

[dull heart]

yeah I meant cutscenes you will definitely run across to beat the game

(you can probably skip them though I'd imagine)

[mystic eagle]

14 hours of main story, voice acted cutscenes**

[mystic eagle]

Yes

[dull heart]

imagine xb2 speed runs with unskippable cutscenes

it'd be so funny

[mystic eagle]

16 hours of cutscenes

[spark kiln]

play gloomwood

[dull heart]

just watching multiple movies in your speedrun

[mystic eagle]

The 2 extra hours come from the non-voice acted cutscenes

[dull heart]

honestly i would probably enjoy xb2

[mystic eagle]

You should play Xenoblade 2 if you can

[dull heart]

but I have no time and already have a game backlog to play

[mystic eagle]

Also play Xenoblade 1 first (if you haven't) to get a hype boost later on

[dull heart]

I already know the whole story of them both so

I don't think the hype boost applies

[dull heart]

I've got like

• FAITH
• Factorio Space Age
• The NOexistenceN of you AND me
• 100% MiSide
• 100% Slay The Princess
• maybe 100% needy streamer overload?

That's enough of a backlog for me for now

[pseudo vector]

i still need to finish prime 4 and then play hades 2

[rotund charm]

will the wiki be updated for 2.1 or later?
(i meant class setups and such)

[grave geyser]

...yes?

yes

not right away

but it will

[dull heart]

It'll be updated eventually

Wiki is not handled specifically by devs

Well, except the wiki changelog

[frail owl]

meow

[dull heart]

so it's just up to the community to update it once 2.1 releases

[pseudo vector]

the wiki will take a bit to update because of how big the update is

[rotund charm]

even item list?
i expected guides being manual but if even items are that as damn manual work to do

[dull heart]

what item list are you thinking of

like I don't think many would need to be updated

And some of the lists are autogenerated from the item pages

But the community still needs to update those item pages

[pseudo vector]

class setups will take longer because of things like re-tiers and such

and people finding out which new item reworks work best for each tier

[dull heart]

yeah it'll take time

I should make one of those videos that shows every reworked/new item in 2.1

And release it 1 minute before the update

It'd be funny

[fathom girder]

I could help get some stuff on the wiki early if i got access to brainstorm :3

[rotund charm]

[pseudo vector]

that shit about to be a 30 minute video

[dull heart]

realistically though I think I will actually attempt to make an "every changed item in brainstorm" video

[hasty tangle]

i dont think youtube lets you upload videos longer than 12 hours

[pseudo vector]

also that should go on the main calamity channel

it needs shit on it tbh

[boreal edge]

Underselling I think

[dull heart]

And then I can release it right after we release the update and beat all the caltubers to the punch

[calm ingot]

Rust and dust was a 30 minute video

[dull heart]

infinite free exposure glitch

[boreal edge]

I have mulled recording myself reading the entire changelog

[dull heart]

Brainstorm changelog ASMR for the cal channel when

[boreal edge]

God

[pseudo vector]

pr heaven

[lyric trellis]

Cit reading Hadal Urn nerf a million time

[calm ingot]

Wait huh
Why
It wasn’t that good to begin with

[boreal edge]

Sending a recording of myself reading the Hadal Urn nerf thousands of times over in your DMs

[muted harness]

a bit of a blast from the past (4 hours ago) but CD, you can't be serious, you didn't know about the chair?

It's one of the og funny ones

[pseudo vector]

i didn’t know lmao

[muted harness]

lmar

[lyric trellis]

Not as funny as Astra’s dms I fear

[boreal edge]

Well yeah I’m never doing that again because I can’t match peak

[lyric trellis]

You can’t match it true you’ll beat it

[boreal edge]

omb

[lyric trellis]

What’s your favorite damage value change

[rotund charm]

724 - Added M1 Garand.
please tell that every 6 bullets it recharges doing the iconic sound

[pulsar cobalt]

not sure about the sound but it does have a unique graphic that goes PING!

this is part of the montage in the newsletter

[rotund charm]

[boreal edge]

Too many to keep track of

[mighty geyser]

ILY CALAMITY M1 GARAND

[mighty geyser]

yes

and as u can see in the montage it works as a ricochet point for marksman rounds

[high scaffold]

Imagine if some calamity marine creatures that have tentacles in future will have them functional

Like colossal squid

[barren nacelle]

I love marine life in Calamity I was redesigning some abyss enemies last night

[thick parrot]

you get grabbed by the tentacles and dragged into the abyss

[high scaffold]

Yes

[gritty skiff]

does anyone know when will calamity 2.1 be released?

[desert garnet]

possibly next month

i recommend reading newsletter in #mod-announcements

[proven locust]

next blue moon

[wicked halo]

3-4.

[valid crypt]

Its coming out in _ _ time

[dull heart]

beyond "before march" no

[royal garnet]

in 1.4.5 milliseconds

[shut ridge]

Huge spoiler!!!

[lapis oak]

March 1st

[amber egret]

still praying on the feb 14th release

bc symbolic or whatever

[shut ridge]

secret valentines boss

[amber furnace]

I love the M1 grand

whoever thought it was a good idea to add it thank you

[polar tide]

Im not counting on a valentines release but it would be so cute

[vestal osprey]

Let us take a moment of scilence to the ones who are being cut in brainstorm

[lyric trellis]

Goodbye balls

[vestal osprey]

Yeah you cut out like half of them

[lyric trellis]

You’re welcome

[vestal osprey]

The wiki probably wont even consider its own catagory at this point

[lyric trellis]

Reminds me that the melee boomerangs category will die in 2.1 too due to the last two being reworked

[ember prawn]

Rip asteroid staff

[vestal osprey]

Also the cores are being removed

But not the core of calamity?

[rancid pagoda]

yeah for now the combined core will stay

total materials will be the same I think

[hasty hawk]

The shitty balance hydra spikeballs ridden off, good riddance. Wont be able to rework God's Paranoia myself but that and any remaining ones will be salvaged in some way

[rancid pagoda]

this also doesn't entirely show that some items are changing so much they might as well be new items

[hasty hawk]

yes, intermediate filler material

[pulsar cobalt]

lets not because i HATE these and i really dont care if they die

[vestal osprey]

I know

Lot of that stuff sucked

[valid crypt]

Tsuki hates fish
@blazing field vaporise her

[rancid pagoda]

which is some of the essence/soul fishes

[lapis oak]

who cares

bum ass items

[hasty hawk]

I suppose the craftable Hive Mind drops will be gone now that brain matter and blood samples are gone how would Exo Mechdusa be summoned now?

[icy stump]

RIP Wrath of the Ancients

[hasty hawk]

RIP Jungle attunement tho, That one could have been salvaged

[pulsar cobalt]

with the other bloody item pet thingy

[vestal osprey]

I liked wrath of the ancients and alpha virus and... and... uh

[rancid pagoda]

never understood why the evil 2 bosses have their drops craftable and nothing else does that

[vestal osprey]

Yeah thats about it

[hasty hawk]

Also aint Sunken Sea attune also gone?

also it wont be missed due to how gimmicky and situational it was

[vestal osprey]

The core of eleum, havok, and whatever the yellow one was called is being removed

But I dont see anything about the core of calamity

[rancid pagoda]

core of calamity is staying, you'll craft it with the actual materials directly

[fathom girder]

I'm gonna miss you alpha virus

[high scaffold]

Just getting rid of intermediate step

[icy stump]

Sunlight

[high scaffold]

In cores

[lapis oak]

it doesn't even have a unique sprite so might be mistaken for the whole Biome Blade lol

[vestal osprey]

Im assuming all the recipes that required them are just being replaced with requiring the essense and ectoplasm

[high scaffold]

That what they said

Wait no, they were saying about calamity cores

[rancid pagoda]

I would assume the same applies to other recipes

[high scaffold]

Some items might use calamity cores in their craft

[vestal osprey]

Asgards valor at the top of my head

Miracle matter too

[rancid pagoda]

could be, it doesn't actually gate anything to have the separate cores

[high scaffold]

Tbh, the stage where you beaten plantera but not calclone is tiny

[rancid pagoda]

as they are all available at the same time

[vestal osprey]

aernt you supposed to fight calcone before plantera?

[rancid pagoda]

not really, they are the same tier

[high scaffold]

So I dont see an issue some items using calcores in their recipe

[rancid pagoda]

you can do it in any order you want

[amber egret]

same tier; fight whichevers easier

[high scaffold]

Just 3 less items cluttering up your storage

[vestal osprey]

smh the cores should of been reworked in consumables

[high scaffold]

?

[vestal osprey]

I wanna eat the cores is what im saying

[high scaffold]

Im glad they are making more and more weapons require at least some neural activity

And not just homing projectile slop

[vestal osprey]

Thats a terrible idea, they be alienatine the calamity subreddit

Oh wait its reddit, who cares

[high scaffold]

Abyss lighting

Assume will be more fun to explore now

[vestal osprey]

The abyss itself needs a overhaul too, not quite to the extent of the sunken sea but it could really use more

[high scaffold]

For that we wait

BS first, a break, then SSO in 2 parts and only then other stuff

[vestal osprey]

A break, are you telling me calamity devs have lives outside of making the mod and cant be thrown in a dungeon to work on it 24/7?

[high scaffold]

Bangles

Wonder if theyll shake up the meta or not

The "meta"

[grave rock]

the single player meta

[high scaffold]

"meta" being the optimal loadout

[grave rock]

cal pvp when

[high scaffold]

Terraria pvp is kinda a stinker

[grave rock]

ikr

[high scaffold]

Fishing rods, this change should be quite cool

[grave rock]

i was doing a multiplayer playthrough with a friend and each time we progressed we did pvp and its so funny

the second i got the star wrath i started one shotting her constantly

[high scaffold]

Scion's Curio

A nice rework I think

[dull heart]

I'd say clone is pretty clearly pre plantera now

[tropic jolt]

terraria pvp can be fun if you turn it into a sniper duel

[dull heart]

back when she acting buffed eclipse and abyss

she made sense as an alt

[high scaffold]

Also wonder if the post PBG upgrade to scions comes in 2.1

[dull heart]

Terraria pvp is fun with earlygame gear

[gray trench]

24%

I need a shower

[dull heart]

phase 3 time

[gray trench]

It's easier than p2... Tbh

Vastly more readable and easier to time

[dull heart]

it's literally the same as p2 but with more intense walls

[grave rock]

im rly hyped for ravager rework its such a sad boss rn

[gray trench]

The walls are easier to read

[grave rock]

wont get me to do post provi ravager tho

[dull heart]

crazy

[gray trench]

I think i said this is calpatreon

[high scaffold]

Iron boots rework, I assume crafting recipe for gravistar sabaton will also be coming in 2.1

[vestal osprey]

Especially sad since this is easily the most famous boss in not just calamity, but all of modded terraria

[lavish otter]

I might have bad news for you

[dull heart]

no sabaton is aureus expert drop

[lapis oak]

?

[gray trench]

Ravager?????

Fucking devourer of gods

[vestal osprey]

how is the ravager more famous and reconizable then the DoG?

[high scaffold]

Then, will it come when aureus will get a new drop?

[vivid hemlock]

what

[dull heart]

Maybe

[vestal osprey]

oh

[gray trench]

Also i appreciate that malice dog is sight readable

[vestal osprey]

im an idiot

[dull heart]

ravager is not even top 5 Calamity famous bosses

[gray trench]

Ty for that

[grave rock]

i know its getting retiered in like a future update but from what i understand itll be a completely different fight by then

[dull heart]

dog, scal, clone, yharon, and probably polterghast

I'd say take those

[gray trench]

Provi

[vestal osprey]

I know, I thought the post i replied to said DoG

[lapis oak]

insane Polter sneak

[dull heart]

Provi is contender with polter

[lapis oak]

you're crazy

[high scaffold]

Ammo swap accessory, we still know basicaly nothing about it

[vestal osprey]

Im an idiot okay

[junior obsidian]

does anyone have the weapon rework chart?

[dull heart]

polter has significantly more fan art done than provi just saying

[gray trench]

Im gonna shower my goal is to beat this fuck today

[grave rock]

i think ravager is most famous as that one golem clone

[lapis oak]

that's not the rework chart

[vivid hemlock]

thats the all changes that arent stat buffs chart

[grave geyser]

polter gets art??

[high scaffold]

Thats a changes chart

[gray trench]

Man sirius is so cool

[junior obsidian]

ty

oh wait wrong chart

[dull heart]

yes

[lyric trellis]

Chibi polter and it’s consequences

[vestal osprey]

They gonna give polter long hair

[gray trench]

I will say grand dad is carrying dog fight

[lyric trellis]

Gotta be nasty as hell

[vestal osprey]

GRAND DAD?!

FLINTSTONES?!

[dull heart]

genuinely have seen more polter fan art than like most other cal bosses besides scal, brimmy, siren

[gray trench]

It's on the chart

[dull heart]

actually realistically brimmy is probably number 5 sadly

[gray trench]

A big ass sword

[vestal osprey]

Honestly amazing cause as of now, polter is kind of a plantera clone

[lapis oak]

it's just easier to draw

[dull heart]

Polter isn't just a plantera clone

[dusk bronze]

don't deadname anahita smh

[dull heart]

Polter is more like Plantera then Plantera is

[lyric trellis]

So

[gray trench]

sirenhug deadnames anahita

[lyric trellis]

The real plantera

[dusk bronze]

transphobic emotes

[lyric trellis]

Well she’s still a siren isn’t she

[dusk bronze]

yeag it's a joke

[lyric trellis]

Can’t remember what old siren’s name was

[dusk bronze]

nahlyn

but ingame it was just siren

[lyric trellis]

True a boss to exist

[lapis oak]

true a boss

[tropic jolt]

the boss ever made

[lavish otter]

I've seen a lot of humanoid designs, specifically! Probably rivalling the amount of Weeber ones, even

[cunning sequoia]

i hate polterchan with my whole being

[gray trench]

:polterchan:

[balmy fossil]

will the extra accessory slot make death mode easier?

[dull heart]

polterchan is surprisingly popular

[lyric trellis]

Reminds me of the 500 Polter resprites that have been proposed or just made for fun

[gray trench]

For now yeah

There's nothing that will make death dog easy

[lyric trellis]

Makes it easier than not having an extra slot

[tropic jolt]

👀

[gray trench]

[tropic jolt]

exo eyes

[dull heart]

[balmy fossil]

I mean the change from expert/death to death mode

[pseudo vector]

death dog is considerably harder in BS compared to in current release cal
but its in a good way instead of the random bullshit go fight that current public dog is

[dull heart]

It'll still be harder than expert/death is now

[vestal osprey]

Also i heard malice DoG is just.... what did yall make

[gray trench]

It's readable

It's fair, it's predictable, it's difficult

[balmy fossil]

dang I can’t even beat aq. scourge in expert/death

[gray trench]

Doze made the best dog ever

Malice DoG in fucking peak

[tropic jolt]

the creature

[gray trench]

Genuinely no better version of dog

[tropic jolt]

not much competition

[gray trench]

Second best is BS Death Dog

[gray trench]

There's no better calamity boss

Maybe i,m glazing

But

It's actually fun

[tropic jolt]

you probably arent

[lyric trellis]

Both can be true at once

[vestal osprey]

I wanna try it

[dusk bronze]

$50

[vestal osprey]

I haven't played it... but thats a bold statement

There would be Lucilles wrath of the machines, astregelodon, avatar of emptiness and nameless deity

[gray trench]

They suck comparatively

Tbh

The best of lucille's is Nameless and this is just better

[dusk bronze]

how much better is it than boc

[flat folio]

damn!

[gray trench]

A lot

[gray trench]

Hello lucille

I'm excited to see what wotg turns into, i've heard that it's becoming a content mod

[pseudo vector]

howdy lucille

[gray trench]

Also wait

Catalyst Astrageldon is Lucille's work?

[pseudo vector]

wasn't that vortex?

[vestal osprey]

I mean Lucille specificly for wrath of the machines

[gray trench]

Ohh

Ok

My bad

[vestal osprey]

Since I know she did that one mostly herself

[hot knot]

wait i was told it wouldn't be dog's final true ultra final rework

[lavish otter]

It won't be

Most likely-

[gray trench]

There's still years of calamity to make, it could change

[dusk bronze]

this is correct

[pseudo vector]

its not the final rework but its one to make him good for the time being

[gray trench]

But @doze can tell you about my first impressions and my reactions to DoG when i was doing him

[hot knot]

i see

[pseudo vector]

its a considerable improvement over the dog in current public calamity version

[hot knot]

nice to know that the fight is gonna be good

[dusk bronze]

and then doze is so goated he accidentally made him the best calamity boss

[gray trench]

Tbf 1.4 dog is improvement over current calamity

[hot knot]

especially with it's depressing history

[gray trench]

Yeah, doze goated

[hot knot]

is the hpu sprite still gonna be implemented someday

[dusk bronze]

probably not

it's Too Fuckign Big

[hot knot]

kinda figured

that's the disdain i had for it, it would have been hard to make a good fight out of it

[gray trench]

It doesn't fit calamity and it's not something anyone would want to sprite

[pseudo vector]

we had a pretty similar sentiment in regards to the giant dog

chances are it won't get used

as much as its cool in concept

[hot knot]

makes sense

[dusk bronze]

it's the exact same resolution as every other sprite

[pseudo vector]

in execution it probably won't work

[gray trench]

Consider nhat

The glowmasks makes new dog feel like a new design

[hot knot]

why can i agree with that

adds a vibe

[dull heart]

accidentally?

he's peak on purpose

[gray trench]

Doze were my reactions to new dog good

[dusk bronze]

ik, i was just saying you didn't need to go that hard

[tribal isle]

the what sprite

[dull heart]

The first time you killed malice dog your reaction was literally exactly the reaction I expected people to have

It was great

[dusk bronze]

heart plus up

retired dev

[gray trench]

I'm glad then

[tribal isle]

ah

[gray trench]

Sorry for yelling when in the vc

[hot knot]

what snailrook said yeah

the image in question:

[high scaffold]

Is violence right click coming in BS or not?

[tribal isle]

wait so the hyped up big dog sprite is dead?

[hot knot]

most likely

[hot knot]

unsure

[gray trench]

Idek how it was hyped, i do prefer current dog over it

[halcyon seal]

probably

[halcyon seal]

i like the big dog better as a design but it doesnt function

[tribal isle]

the wotg effect the bigger the better

also calamity youtubers

[dull heart]

Anything not sunken sea in changelogs is in bs

so the answer to your question is answered by "Is violence sunken sea content?"

[tribal isle]

does amidias live after he gets his soul sucked out of his body

[lavish otter]

I'd hope so! It'd be embarassing if he survived the incineration of Ilmeris but died to a pre-hardmode miniboss

[shut ridge]

Good point

[dusk bronze]

slime god

[high scaffold]

I love when the document contains info that over a year old by this point

[gray trench]

Silence you

[lavish otter]

Were there any changelogs that talked about SG aside from 415? (Reworked the Slime God fight visually (resprited the Paladins, the Core, added new jumping and landing squash and stretch effects, etc.), and changed the behavior of the unsplit Ebonian and Crimulan Paladins.)

Funny enough, that one wasn't even considered done✅

[vivid hemlock]

atleast it wasnt as bad as "added astral undergrowth"

[lyric trellis]

I love when that was added

[dull heart]

ok true slime god was kil

And hell gen was kil

[halcyon seal]

wtf did he mean by this

[vivid hemlock]

clearly it was added you see

[pulsar cobalt]

- Done ✅

[stuck kite]

Done ✅ btw

[strong isle]

Yes

Obviously

Amidias dying halfway through pre-HM would be a terrible call

[dull heart]

he becomes replaced by a dopelganger

duh

[strong isle]

Amidias gets reborn as a lotus flower

[dull heart]

aFAKEias

[fathom girder]

We need a new amidias meme

With a lotus flower

STAT

[lyric trellis]

Worst system of all time

[high scaffold]

Vanila update soon

We will have to play without magic storage

And without "QoL" mods

[tribal isle]

Who even uses magic storage

[dusk bronze]

me (in calamity)

[high scaffold]

And without real QoL mods as they adding them to vanila

[vestal osprey]

Im a journy mode player, So i have no need for magic storge

[tribal isle]

Is the portable recipe browser getting added

[high scaffold]

No, but guide is getting updated in that department

[tribal isle]

So no qol in vanilla

[high scaffold]

Planter boxes and platforms QoL is what we seen

You know how placing platforms with smart cursor in vanila constantly messes it up?

That will be fixed

And planter boxes with be plantier and boxier

[rancid pagoda]

smarter smart cursor getting in vanilla

[high scaffold]

Also torches on platforms with smart cursor too

[rancid pagoda]

love it when the official game removes the need of QoL mods

[high scaffold]

How most QoL features get in vanila
Red: "this pmo, I should fix that"

[rancid pagoda]

pretty much, they only do anything when they run into it themselves

[fathom girder]

That's why it's good

fits their vision better

instead of conforming to wacko chuds who aren't game designers

[rancid pagoda]

they'll still take suggestions but most of the time the ones that get in are jokes

[high scaffold]

Also, planter boxes will have no restrictions, can buy all of them as soon as driad moves in

And Im not sure, but maybe smarter planting too

Basicaly, making farming potion materials tolerable

Also fishing will be more fun

Will be seeing le fishes in de water

And maybe even in de lava

Also might get hardmode upgrades to miner and fisher sets

I hope they eventualy resprite all old slimes

Spiked jungle slime looks so good and very slime

Most of them use basicaly the same sprite but different colors anyways

Grayscale and then color them

Also they already resprited dungeon skeletons

[versed tendon]

i'm lost in also/m^2

[rancid pagoda]

staff of regrowth has been annoying to use for a long time because even though you can use it to get seeds from non-blooming plants that doesn't work with planter boxes, it just doesn't break the herb there

and you need to replant afterwards if you want to use that feature for extra herbs

[high scaffold]

Hallowed rogue helmet might be a real thing in the end

Not confirmed but a ✅ suggestion

Should also extend to chlorophyte helmet imo

[grave rock]

journey mode:

[lavish otter]

Wait, you get seeds from unbloomed herbs when they aren't in planter boxes?

[rancid pagoda]

if you use staff or axe of regrowth, yes

[lavish otter]

Weeiiird

[rancid pagoda]

exactly, I'm hoping they fix this inconsistency

[dull heart]

Wait did it really pass

peaaak

[dull heart]

Good (magic storage mid)

[fathom girder]

I love to pollute my base with dozens of blocks that exist only to make crafting slightly more annoying

this ain't ffffffecken minecraft get that crap outta here

[dull heart]

L take

[fathom girder]

I can smell your ragebait from miles away

[modern grove]

I can't smell

The evil wizard took my nose

[dense sundial]

I personally love to burden my computer and break Wrath of the Gods for no reason

[fathom girder]

it breaks infernum too

it's funny

[deft lily]

worth it

[dense sundial]

We get it, you hate Infernum

[deft lily]

is there a problem

[summer shore]

I have no idea if this is referring to using magic storage or not using magic storage

[tribal isle]

magic storage is so inconvenient and confusing why do people even use that shit
chests are NOT that bad

[iron dew]

do you think somebodys not going to have a problem when you unpromptedly hate on a mod ?

[lavish otter]

Agreed! I'd rather have the simple inconvenience of chests over the complicated convenience of magic storage, because they really aren't that bad

[hasty tangle]

it baffles me when people say MS is complicated

[gray trench]

My heartrate is so fucking high rn

[dull heart]

i still can't believe you did it

insane

[gray trench]

[pulsar cobalt]

malice dog no hit?

[lavish otter]

Oh damn- niiiice!

[dull heart]

better

[gray trench]

I beat him like 5 minutes before i pinged you

[pulsar cobalt]

malice dog defiled no hit?

[gray trench]

[dull heart]

better

[deft lily]

not sure what to say to this other then i can dislike infernum if i want to

[tribal isle]

also it pollutes my world with the useless robot npc and pollutes my treasure bags with its useless purple crystal thingies

[pulsar cobalt]

malice dog accessoryless no hit?

[dull heart]

i didn't even think this was possible ngl

no not that lol

[gray trench]

And i agreed with you

[dull heart]

but it was ramless defiled malice dog

[pulsar cobalt]

oh

[gray trench]

(nohit)

[lavish otter]

OH DAMN-

[dull heart]

yeah but nohit is almost a given for malice dog

[gray trench]

Yeah

New ppl don't know that

How do i like

Reduce adrenaline and heartrate

/genq

[flat folio]

You can dislike it. That is your prerogative
And people can call the presentation of that dislike out. That's their prerogative too

I dun think it's a problem to dislike smth but I do understand others getting sick of it when it's presented in a callous tone like that repeatedly
Sometimes you can just say nothing if you have nothing nice to say, yanno?

[summer shore]

Water

[pulsar cobalt]

uhh

[lavish otter]

Music can help

[pulsar cobalt]

go for a walk?

idk

[gray trench]

I wish he was better on performance so i could've recorded

[pulsar cobalt]

just get a better pc

[gray trench]

My laptop doesn't like dog

[pulsar cobalt]

[gray trench]

I wonder how many attempts it'll take the first Kb&m player to beatit no ram

[pulsar cobalt]

give it like a week

[lavish otter]

what's kb&m?

[gray trench]

Keyboard and mouse

[lavish otter]

ooohhh

[gray trench]

I play on controller due to disability

[lavish otter]

Fair enough, honestly- I've thought about that myself since I hate keyboard play (my right hand doesn't always work like I want it to)

[deft lily]

very well then
ill stop bringing it up

[hasty tangle]

plenty of other people will complain about it in your place

[humble edge]

I just suck at projectile hells -_-

[hasty tangle]

doesnt help that infernum is like the most polarizing mod in the game's history

[dusk bronze]

overhaul

[hasty tangle]

overhaul is different

[dusk bronze]

true

[humble edge]

Which probably means this isn't the mod for me, but I'm just now hearing about what went down and I want to see what direction this mod goes in

[flat folio]

Overhaul isn't really polarizing it's just near universally hated in places like this

[hasty tangle]

overhaul is objectively bad and everyone who knows what theyre talking about agrees

[deft lily]

not my problem.

[hasty tangle]

infernum is both hated and loved by veterans

[hasty tangle]

ik, im just saying

[dusk bronze]

it is going in the good direction ithink

[lavish otter]

Oh anyways, I think it just is when compared to the vanilla storage system
Having a row of chests with item frames and/or signs at most to signify what's in them is just a lot simpler than whatever magic storage has going on

And you aren't typically going to need a lot of them anyways, unless you're a hoarder

[hasty tangle]

magic storage is just put everything in one place and search with a text bar

i dont see how its that hard

[humble edge]

I hope so. I used to be a member here until I noticed how damn toxic this place was compared to the vanilla terraria discord. I'm giving it another shot due to just now finding out what happened after 7 months

[dusk bronze]

it's pretty chill now

[hasty tangle]

how long ago?

[humble edge]

Years ago

Actually, lemme see my last messages here

[hot knot]

i guess setting it up could be tedious at times but idk

[humble edge]

7 years ago I was a member before I left

[flat folio]

This place was quite evil in the 2017-19 era iirc

[humble edge]

(Which probably was a good thing since I was underage)

[hasty tangle]

alright, cuz i was gonna say i dont remember this server was ever that toxic in my experience

and i joined in early 2020

[buoyant pulsar]

finally a sword grip that doesn't look absolutely comically tiny compared to every single other part of the sword

[hasty tangle]

byeah this place is fine now

[humble edge]

I mostly remember people being told to 'get good' in response to actual advice

[dusk bronze]

which one

[buoyant pulsar]

both, but i meant hellkite

[deft lily]

90% of this server's toxicity comes from #calamity-mod-talk

[flat folio]

There was a lot of elitism as the echoes of Leviathan's content and influence was at its strongest iirc

And prior to that there was the meme channel

[dusk bronze]

i've seen people non-jokingly say git gud like
twice in 8 months

[deft lily]

theres still a lot of elitism in this community but i feel as if its mostly amongst no hitters and what not

[summer shore]

Ehh

[hasty tangle]

we really aren't that elitist

[summer shore]

I don't think I've ever seen a an actual nohitter be elitist in my 5 years here

[hasty tangle]

i dont see where this sentiment comes from

[gray trench]

My heartrate is finally below 120

[dull heart]

disable revengance/death mode

[deft lily]

this discord is not the only place in the cal community last i checked...

[gray trench]

SO TRUE

[dusk bronze]

umbara has a very negative disposition towards almost everything

[gray trench]

Doze

That boss is peak

I'm never doing that again

[deft lily]

gee thanks
really appreciate that

👍

[hot knot]

anger issues down the drain as well

[summer shore]

Well I'm in the land of the nohitters(nohitcord) and my statement still stands I think

[arctic cliff]

i mean, calamity used to be very onboard with no-hitting, there was an entire extra item whose sole purpose was to just turn it on without using another mod
i wasnt really around for that period, but yeah i wouldnt be surprised if no-hitters initially were either obnoxious or perceived as such

[gray trench]

They should invite me to nohitcord

[summer shore]

Beg cit

[hasty tangle]

i mean, you can always ask

door's open

[flat folio]

Honestly even back in the Olden Days it wasn't really the nohitters themselves that were problematic barring a handful of exceptions as much as it was downstream effects from the general playerbase

[summer shore]

It's really not that hard I mean if I got in then anyone can

[hushed hazel]

just do this

[flat folio]

Markiplier

[summer shore]

[hushed hazel]

fandom wiki page named "cringe" whose sole contents were markiplier pointing and the text "you"

[gray trench]

I feel bad cause i was doing true melee masdeath nohits and i gave up and now i just don't care to record nohits i just do them casually and i don't think i deserve to be there cause i just don't care to actually do it

I do challenges not nohits moreso

[deft lily]

hm
good for you then

[hasty tangle]

you dont even have to be a nohitter to join

[summer shore]

I think you're hanging out in the wrong places

[hasty tangle]

you can ask to be let in as a non nohitter

[dull heart]

sometimes i think about joining nohitcord

[hushed hazel]

yeah like

[dull heart]

and then i dont

[hushed hazel]

i gave up on nohitting years ago and they still let me back in after i had left a lot of cal servers just because i asked

[gray trench]

Would i just dm cit or gps or someone

[hasty tangle]

yes

[hushed hazel]

to me nohit is essentially a semi private friend server with, like, three channel categories i have had muted since 2021

[flat folio]

Mountains of salt trauma

[hushed hazel]

i don't even know if that exists anymore

[fathom girder]

send them footage of nohitting malice dog and I think they'd let you in

[hasty tangle]

it was moved into a thread

[hushed hazel]

far as i'm concerned the terraria channels in there aren't real

[buoyant pulsar]

planck spectral radiance .. /.? ?

[hasty tangle]

and threads are a lot easier to ignore than channels

[deft lily]

probably idk

[flat folio]

Blackbody simulation!

[lyric trellis]

I agree send it to me

[pseudo vector]

random thought but i don't think we'll add achievements in base cal which require you to do some insane skill based shit

[hushed hazel]

i think that's fair

[pseudo vector]

most we have in mind is "beat every vanilla and calamity boss on rev+" i think

[hushed hazel]

i can't think of any vanilla achievement that's super skill based

[deft lily]

good

[hasty tangle]

seems reasonable to me

[fathom girder]

Adding malice achievements would be funny

[summer shore]

Speedrun and hardcore achievement

Welcome silso

[flat folio]

Flashbacks to when death mode bosses had their own separate entry in boss checklist for a tiny flash of time

[arctic cliff]

i feel like super providence (which i assume wont be night-related in BS) should have an achievement methinks

[fathom girder]

Fabsol moment

[lavish otter]

It would be, but that'd also be kind of cruel to the average player

[hasty tangle]

"nope":
delete a world on malice mode

[hushed hazel]

it's all either something simple like "beat this boss" or "do this normal thing" or something silly like the bee mount bee armor bee gun one

[gray trench]

It's barely even possible to do malice dog and survive after getting a hit

[pseudo vector]

we have a lot of achievements already on our to-do list

[gray trench]

His body does like 600

[fathom girder]

nah this one's heat lmao

[pulsar cobalt]

achievement name: why
achievement requirement: beat gfb malice without ever equipping any armour, accessory or equipment

[gray trench]

It's not possible

[flat folio]

Momentum Capacitor achievement

[pseudo vector]

now that i think about it i have no clue when we'll start adding them

[lyric trellis]

horrifying

[gray trench]

This genuinely isn't possible

[fathom girder]

nah

[arctic cliff]

i feel like SSO would be a good time to start adding them

[pseudo vector]

if i had to guess it'd be when we get the assets for the achievement icons

[fathom girder]

just throw yardis at it for a couple days

[pulsar cobalt]

thats what they want you to think

[fathom girder]

he'll do it

[deft lily]

achievement name: touching grass
achievement requirement: uninstall calamity mod

[dull heart]

when spriters sprite them

[lavish otter]

I think it'd be nice if there were some smaller rewards for going through Malice mode though, a la the cosmic plushy or whatever it's called for beating DoG on Death while using a hardcore player

[pseudo vector]

dude the list on the taiga has a lot of achievements

[pulsar cobalt]

something something #assets-needed