calamity-update-talk

[tribal isle]

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[lean relic]

kozz say hi to the community remix addon

[hard copper]

sounds verboten ngl

[lean relic]

coming through to your mouth

[tribal isle]

hi

[amber furnace]

the O in sso stands for ogscur

ogsclue

ogscule

[formal zealot]

of course the ranger drink gives everything homing

hahaha they cant aim

[modern grove]

realistically shouldnt drinking alcohol make your aim worse

[formal zealot]

get this user a true

[dull heart]

+50% crit damage
all projectiles try to dodge your enemies

[gray trench]

[muted harness]

you laugh

but...

[tribal isle]

just play mobile terraria

why sacrifice crits

[high scaffold]

Reworks, people, reworks

Brainstorm the reworks update

[deft lily]

"no yharim? update bad"

[thick parrot]

[amber egret]

will the plague labs be larger in BS

[stone fiber]

Primordial Wyrm is cool you should totally do it

Everyone is eating good in 2026 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[stone fiber]

The return of point blank

[stone fiber]

-# coming!

[pulsar cobalt]

green grape beer

[grave geyser]

how would this work with magic missile and co

[distant raft]

depends on how strong the anti-homing is

[valid crypt]

Disables homing
Return to 1.3 magic missile line

[high scaffold]

Brainstorm (not) tomorrow

[pulsar cobalt]

it tries to go against your cursor

[high scaffold]

Now when its january every discord ping might be the one to sign 1.4.5

[grave geyser]

its position is mirrored to where your cursor is
so if you want to attack the boss you have to figure out where they would be if the screen was rotated 180 degrees

[tribal isle]

what if instead of 2.2 being sso they went minecraft route with 2.1.1 being sso and further down the line and 2.2 is yharim update

[high scaffold]

Actualy, if went minecraft route Brainstorm would be 26.1

[dusk bronze]

[high scaffold]

Changing baby mobs models, exactly what minecraft needs

Actualy not a bad change

Improves consistency

[silk gate]

Hi fellas! I just watched a video on ytb about a new calamity update coming soon

Is it true?

[hushed hazel]

soon ish

[high scaffold]

January-February

[valid crypt]

#mod-announcements message
the brainstorm newsletter is here

[high scaffold]

"newsletter" looks inside "not sent to your mail"

[dull heart]

Hi

[dusk bronze]

helo

[lapis oak]

what did you do

(not hostile)

[stuck knot]

i have very few wishes for the upcoming update but its mainly just wanting stuff to do with the ashes of annihilation and exo prisms that arent shadowspec and miracle matter

[tribal isle]

dont worry exo armor will be added.... sometime in the future... not the next update

[lapis oak]

Ashes of Annihilation does fucks all and nothing

most useless boss material

[stuck knot]

well yea but thats something thats going to be throughout the game, im specifically talking about exo prisms and the ashes of annihilation, neither of which have any use outside a very small amount of weapons if you dont count shadowspec, why not just make it so the weapons the bosses drop can be crafted with their respective materials

ashes are used to craft a SINGULAR weapon and shadowspec

[formal zealot]

crafting the exo mech drops would be real nice considering the weird last one you kill drops everything system

[stuck knot]

exo prisms are used for some blocks and miracle matter and as much as i like the miracle weapons i feel like theres just a bunch of missed potential with exo prisms

and since im thinking about it rn i might as well mention that theres only 5 things you can exhume total and 4 of those are for summoner and mage

arguably the coolest thing in any mod ever and it barely has anything

frankly the fact that calamity just stops having anything to craft once you get auric stuff is rather upsetting to me in general

[dusk bronze]

this might be a hot take but i don't like that bosses drop weapons directly

crafting and upgrading is so much more rewarding than opening a bag

[halcyon seal]

i think it depends

[pseudo vector]

unfortunately there isn't that much we can do about that currently in regards to auric stuff being the way it is

[halcyon seal]

it def is better to have bosses drop materials but i think it just makes sense for certain bosses to drop weapons

ml and wof are the obvious examples

[dusk bronze]

yeah true

[halcyon seal]

stuff like the leviana and ravager weapons too

thematically those are too closely tied to the bosses themselves imo

[dusk bronze]

remove all ravager weapons

[halcyon seal]

you cant do that wed lose um um uh wed lose uh you know that one weapon that you use

[dusk bronze]

it's literally just spikecrag

which you can easily retheme

[halcyon seal]

spikeweed staff

[stuck knot]

i dont have any problems with the auric tier so much as i do with everything after it, auric feels like a good reward to get right before supreme calamitas and exo mechs, the problem i personally have is shadowspec being the only thing you can do after that, that armor and those weapons feel like entering in cheat codes and theres reason to not use that stuff especially with it being the only thing you can do with what you get from calamitas aside from maybe a small amount of vanity, the urn and a SINGULAR sword

[halcyon seal]

cal drops are definitely pretty underwhelming yeah

exos is just so much better to do first

[lapis oak]

We know

[halcyon seal]

if youre doing cal first you either want tainted ataraxia or bloodthirsty cosmic discharge

or you really really really like scom

[lapis oak]

That'll get worked on slowly

[stuck knot]

and once again with how little there is to do with exhuming and how cool it is as a mechanic i really wish there was at the very least A weapon for each class from it

[lapis oak]

That'll also get worked on slowly

[silk gate]

Rlly? It's not that far then

[halcyon seal]

its not

afaik the content for the update is basically done, the auric guys and devs are just making sure nothing explodes instantly when the update actually launches

[pseudo vector]

unfortunately the exos are a significantly worse boss

scal is at least a boss i generally have fun with

exos is dreadful

[lapis oak]

Both final bosses are flawed in the own ways

[halcyon seal]

yeah exos suck so bad

scal i think is flawed but good

[lapis oak]

They'll get worked on slowly

Both of them

[pseudo vector]

we have a lot of work ahead of us after we get brainstorm out

[halcyon seal]

i dont like her bullet hell but at her core, good fight

[stuck knot]

exos also feel way easier than scal despite being fightable at the same time

[silk gate]

Yeah I heard some ppl say it would take forever to release the new update

[halcyon seal]

exos i have no fucking idea what you could do for them without just making a new fight entirely

[pseudo vector]

we're pretty much gonna make a new fight

[stuck knot]

id rather it just be a boss rush honestly

[pseudo vector]

we know its abysmal dogshit

[lapis oak]

Exos are unsalvagable

[pseudo vector]

and we hate exos in their current state

the only thing that will stay from them is the designs of the bosses themselves

[stuck knot]

as much as i like the idea of fighting all three at once it just doesnt work as it is now

[pseudo vector]

their behaviour will be entirely different tho

not in this update tho cuz otherwise you'd be waiting a lot longer

that'll likely be its own update

the exos overhaul i mean

[stuck knot]

makes sense

i imagine we might finally get their theme with that update too maybe?

[pseudo vector]

yes

that's the plan

pretty much

[stuck knot]

winning

[pseudo vector]

the exos overhaul and the theme will be in the same update

[lapis oak]

CD when the

When the Exos hit

[pseudo vector]

imma keep it a buck, when i fought them solo last year for the first time (yes, i shit you not)
i actually questioned my life choices

[halcyon seal]

CDMusic
look inside
.ogg file

[stuck knot]

its been like 3 or 4 years by now theres no way it wouldnt be ready for a future overhaul

[pseudo vector]

the version that was in the teasers will not be the final version

because i feel that rendition of the exos theme is not properly representative of me as an artist at my best

i've improved drastically since that rendition was started back in 2022

[stuck knot]

thats fair

[gray trench]

"this is what i've been making music for......?"

[pseudo vector]

LOL YEAH

[lapis oak]

Your magnum opus, Clamiy

[pseudo vector]

PRECISELY MY THOUGHT PROCESS

i was actually like "what the fuck is this shit"

[gray trench]

3 pngs and a worm thats never on screen

[halcyon seal]

ares def calls azafurians "THOSE people" all im saying

[lapis oak]

Not suprise Exos rework before SSO

[stuck knot]

ill never be able to hate exo mechs as they are purely because i love bosses that are multiple in one fight

[pseudo vector]

they're just so poorly executed

[turbid halo]

Exo overhaul, I hear?

[stuck knot]

7 pngs and worm thats never on screen, those arms are not connected

[pseudo vector]

at some point in the future, yes

[turbid halo]

Tell more

[halcyon seal]

the world if exo mechs actually did the thing where the bosses worked together 🕊️

[lapis oak]

There's nothing to say

[pseudo vector]

we don't have much info to give out currently other than the fact its gonna happen and the fight is gonna be completely different

[turbid halo]

Lucille once again prooves her superiority over terraria modders

[halcyon seal]

ik its brought up constantly but like. thats why o&s is such a fucking incredible fight

[stuck knot]

i imagine distant future but itll come with that exo mechs theme

[halcyon seal]

?????

[turbid halo]

Wrath of the Machines is the GOAT

[lapis oak]

What does this even mean

[pseudo vector]

like these mechs will be completely unrecognisable in terms of the way they fight when we rework them

[turbid halo]

The GOAT

[halcyon seal]

lucille has a 50% success rate with her exo reworks

[stuck knot]

o&s?

[halcyon seal]

ornstein & smough

[stuck knot]

i dont play darksouls so im unaware

[pseudo vector]

that's a good example of a 2v1 fight

[halcyon seal]

VERY good boss, generally agreed to be best boss in ds1 last i checked

[pseudo vector]

exos is a god awful example of a 3v1 fight

[turbid halo]

Wrath of the Machines - exo rework originally for Fargo's eternity mode. Is seperate mod for base calamity to implement it without Fargos

[halcyon seal]

if we wanna go back to cal for examples of good multi-boss fights, leviana isnt half bad imo

[turbid halo]

Its good

™

[pseudo vector]

we have a general outline of what we want the new exos fight to be like, but the actual attacks and fight itself have not been on our minds at all

we're too busy trying to get brainstorm out in the best state we can

[lapis oak]

Ok and?

[flat folio]

Two different Lucilles
One from 2022, one from 2025

[gray trench]

I'm excited for that one rework that didn't get implemented to bs

They're in dire need

Oh hello lucille

[halcyon seal]

wait, wotm was 2025?

[lapis oak]

Hi Lucille the superior figure over terraria modders

[stuck knot]

i hope it stays somewhat close to being a 3v1 once everything is said an done, at the very least a 1v1 into a 2v1 would be good in my books

[pulsar cobalt]

omg its lucille lets all point and look at this very high and mighty being because she makes stuff beyond our understanding or whatever

[turbid halo]

Did you...
Do you realize I mentioned it in response to hearing about official Exo rework in the plans?

[pseudo vector]

again we do have a general structure outlined for the exos rework planned out, its just a matter of acting on those plans and making it work

[lapis oak]

And?

[halcyon seal]

id imagine the goal is to make it a 3v1 but have everyone actually work together instead of just firing slower and being shittier when theyre all o nscreen

[turbid halo]

Whatever

[pseudo vector]

i've already had a general vibe of the fight in my head in terms of how it should be executed in the actual exos rework lol

[stuck knot]

isnt she from wrath?

[turbid halo]

Go my skibidi

[halcyon seal]

wotg, wotm, and inf dev

also made my favorite addon, the do nothing addon

you wont BELIEVE what that does

[pseudo vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1416460676335009835/1434736548141600818/bouncy_fuck.gif

[pulsar cobalt]

calamity do nothing addon is peak

[turbid halo]

And You.

[lapis oak]

It does something

Scam

[pulsar cobalt]

WRONG

TUPID KIRI

[turbid halo]

First Fractal my beloved

[lapis oak]

Not getting scammed anymore

[frail tapir]

[lapis oak]

Society failed

[stuck knot]

i forgot wrath and infernum are the same dev, especially since they land completely opposite to eachother in terms of how much i like them

[halcyon seal]

you's pretty good, fought it for the first time a couple weeks ago

[frail tapir]

[flat folio]

ig my appearance accidentally subsumed the channel topic?

[turbid halo]

We kinda need more of those one-off bosses with cool shit

[distant raft]

very updateful

[hushed hazel]

holy FUCK where

[flat folio]

haha...

[terse dew]

no way

[halcyon seal]

flooooating over there

[turbid halo]

You appeared as I mentioned you (I think?)

So

I technically summoned you

[pseudo vector]

i guess lmao

[halcyon seal]

anyways nobody uses this channel for update discussions anyways

who wants to talk about the global economy

[turbid halo]

Communism

[pseudo vector]

i've also just gotta get out of this mental funk i've been having with the exos theme over the past half a year
my goal now isn't to finish it, but to at least develop a healthier work process for the theme so i don't end up going insane before i finish it

[stuck knot]

oh yea, the new update is super hype. cant wait to see if the muramasa rework makes it in

[pseudo vector]

its not making it in

[stuck knot]

damn

[halcyon seal]

its not

[lapis oak]

No

[pseudo vector]

it won't be in for a while yet

[halcyon seal]

murasama rework is not happening for a long time and

honestly its prob not even gonna be that cool

like id be happy to be proven wrong but

i just dont fw murasama like that

[flat folio]

I stole the murasama reworks

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-shades-sunglasses-eyeglasses-cant-see-gif-17413466

[lapis oak]

It's ok to be wrong that's just life

[pulsar cobalt]

wtf whyd u do that :c

[lapis oak]

Wrong reply fuck

Krilling myself

[vivid hemlock]

dumb fuck

[halcyon seal]

hit me with a meaaaaan drage buff and then ill consider

[pseudo vector]

i never understood the appeal behind murasama personally

[pulsar cobalt]

🦐

[pseudo vector]

yeah cool red true melee sword but that's about it really

[halcyon seal]

really fucking big sword early in the mod's history

[lapis oak]

Dragon Rage such dogshit weapon can't believe you like that thing

[stuck knot]

as a gildedguy enjoyer i fw murasama immensely

[lapis oak]

Don't ever talk to me again

Insult to my eyes that fucking thing

[halcyon seal]

mgrr reference back when that game was really big (among people who never played it)

[polar tide]

excuse me

[flat folio]

Go back to Prepare to Cry mode and make it pale red Arkhalis again

[turbid halo]

Big blade goes swoosh, boss goes sliii / iice

[pulsar cobalt]

ermm revengeance mod hp bars cool red sword NANOMACHINES!!!!!

[pseudo vector]

i mean i've been around since like
2018

i'd think i know the origins of murasama lol

i'm basically a tmod unc at this point

[halcyon seal]

fair

[turbid halo]

The same reason why cutting shit in half is cathartic

[polar tide]

i know the origins of yo mama

[pulsar cobalt]

👴

[flat folio]

We both need to be put in a retirement home at this point
Too much tML knowledge

[turbid halo]

The universe

[halcyon seal]

unc check, do you remember when dog was a post-plantera boss

[pseudo vector]

bro we need to actually just make a game at this point

[stuck knot]

i remember when leviathan still had its previous sprite and supreme calamitas used what is now the clone sprite

[pseudo vector]

fuck this tmod shit we need make our own game LOL

[lapis oak]

That's what they all say

[turbid halo]

10,000 years kater

[turbid halo]

Reign of Yharim is right there

[pulsar cobalt]

perhaps itd go more in depth of yharims reign,,,

[turbid halo]

Someone pick that orphan kid

[halcyon seal]

do you remember when dog spawned the sentinels during his fight

[pseudo vector]

no i'm talking like a game that has nothing to do with terraria at all lmao

[turbid halo]

RoY is calamity lore game

No terraria

[lapis oak]

CD's life game

New hit game from the hit team Calamity Mod team

[polar tide]

cdm dunking simulator

[terse dew]

calamity mod hero shooter

[turbid halo]

Calamity Di-

[terse dew]

calamity mod life sim

[tropic jolt]

calamity minecraft

[stuck knot]

yes actually and i miss that being a thing, honestly i wish we got smaller fights with them now before he transforms

[terse dew]

calamity mod cod zombies ripoff

[halcyon seal]

it just doesnt really work because, they have nothing to do with dog lol

cv is literally a door

[rich ginkgo]

every terraria mod dev being shackled within the shitty 15 year old game engine that terraria runs on

[halcyon seal]

signus is some guy

and storm weaver. idk he eats birds

[terse dew]

calamity mod Minecraft clone

[turbid halo]

Didn't it do that during bossrush at some point

[terse dew]

calamity mod e33

[stuck knot]

no idea, i only found out about the existence of boss rush after exo mechs got added

[turbid halo]

No true fan

[rich ginkgo]

was it terraria or minecraft that couldnt add another liquid without the game just fucking itself over

[turbid halo]

Smh

You now have mod for modded terraria liquids tho

[misty wren]

base minecraft can add another liquid without too much issue its terraria that has that issue iirc

[lapis oak]

Modded Minecraft has 500+ liquids

[vivid hemlock]

smth smth only 4 liquid slots

[turbid halo]

Which is a statement on the issue, if you need seperate mod to handle different flavor of wo'ah

[lapis oak]

You only have 4 liquid slots

[stuck knot]

well signus works directly for dog iirc, stormweaver is the same species and ceaseless is a door to the dimension dog likes to pop in and out of

[lapis oak]

👊

[halcyon seal]

minecraft is really easy to add a lot of liquids too which is why mods add a lot

like a LOT of liquids

like too many

[misty wren]

wrong wrong correct

[vivid hemlock]

im dipping you into molten lava

[halcyon seal]

that name for signus is just wrong lol

[hushed hazel]

calamity mod na telefonie

[halcyon seal]

its a holdover from old lore i think

[terse dew]

true

[halcyon seal]

and storm weaver isnt the same species

hes a guy who eats birds

he has lightning powers

thats really it

[turbid halo]

Ceaseless Void is literally just a door

[misty wren]

signus is from the distortion, storm weaver appears at a glance to be the same species but draedon disproves that

[stuck knot]

im going to pop into the game right now because im very sure stormweaver specifically never changed species with the lore rewrite

[turbid halo]

Implied to come from distortion..?

[lapis oak]

Weaver is literally just a lost animal

Wtf is this fraud

[halcyon seal]

stronger than the profaned goddess btw

#BASICANIMALSWEEP

[vivid hemlock]

i love normal animals

[lapis oak]

Battle of mids

Holy gem

[hushed hazel]

he did

[stuck knot]

also is the aquatic scourge we fight in game still just a juvenile or did that change too

[misty wren]

You may have heard the claim that it is of the same species as the Devourer. Any level of in-depth inspection reveals that to be false.
direct quote from the draetalk entry on dog

[turbid halo]

Primordial Wyrm/Adult Eidolon Wyrm

[hushed hazel]

yharim thinks sw and dog are the same but he's not a biologist

draedon is

[rich ginkgo]

thank god

[vivid hemlock]

why was everything in old lore weakened or a baby

[rich ginkgo]

that was so fucking lame lmao

[halcyon seal]

its cooler to imply thing than to actually show thing

[rich ginkgo]

sw is just weaker and older dog

[turbid halo]

Yeah

Thats the point

[stuck knot]

im still fact checking in game myself to make sure

[lapis oak]

U literally a baby go easy on your kind

[vivid hemlock]

youre an unhatched egg

[turbid halo]

SW is DoG if he was a baby and abused or smthng

[rich ginkgo]

boooringggg

[halcyon seal]

sw is dog if he was betrayed and trapped in the hyperbolic time chamber for 1000 years

[turbid halo]

Oh shut up you'd never see peak if all you saw was blue sky

[lapis oak]

😠

[turbid halo]

Kek queer report

[rich ginkgo]

ever thought that maybe dog is the non-normal one

maybe the dude just eats too much

and sw is what dog should be

[turbid halo]

Yes...

Thats literally the fucking point

[stuck knot]

im not finding anything that says sw isnt the same species

[lapis oak]

SW is DoG if he eats too much

[halcyon seal]

after careful analysis, we have concluded that the front part of storm weaver is its own unique species, but the back half is actually a clone of the devourer of gods

[vivid hemlock]

talk to draedon with the codebreaker

[turbid halo]

Guh?

[rich ginkgo]

it’s not coming from your own words 😭

[lapis oak]

Just like how DoG will become Sepulcher after death

[turbid halo]

Ok I take my words back then

[halcyon seal]

no stupid thats not how it works. sepulcher will become devourer of universes after death

everyone knows this

[vivid hemlock]

hasnt been in almost 3 years

[lapis oak]

Not make sense

Hit you with Ozzablast

[halcyon seal]

ash baby emoji

[stuck knot]

i had no idea you could do this

[turbid halo]

...so, SW is just random guy, Signus is just random guy, and CV is...DoG's Front Door?

[blazing field]

https://tenor.com/view/mahoraga-makora-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-15349122341911766662

[stuck knot]

this is completely new to me

[rich ginkgo]

pretty much

[vivid hemlock]

cv is noxus's door that he hasnt used ever

[turbid halo]

Laaaaame

[halcyon seal]

more or less

[blazing field]

SW and Signus are NOT random guys do not diss my goats

[rich ginkgo]

well i mean

[halcyon seal]

signus is fucking awesome tho

[rich ginkgo]

dog just opens his own doors

[halcyon seal]

that guy got a plush

[rich ginkgo]

he’s like that

[blazing field]

Signus literally has more aura than DoG

He's literally distortion satan

[rich ginkgo]

too bad signus is fodder

[halcyon seal]

is that burrower? from the calamity mod's brainstorm update?

[turbid halo]

From the bible

[blazing field]

Unfortunately he is right now 😔

[stuck knot]

i know for a fact theyre not random guys, if they were random guys why are they summoned by the rune of kos

[blazing field]

The rune of kos thing is being scrapped

[lapis oak]

Random ahh hobos on the street 🥱

[blazing field]

It dosen't really make any sense narratively

[halcyon seal]

arent all non-codebreaker summoning items non-canon

[blazing field]

They're getting their own spawn methods later

[vivid hemlock]

youre a random hobo

kiri

[blazing field]

Like they have no association with eachother nor with providence so

[turbid halo]

So what relation do they have to Devourer?

[rich ginkgo]

i think i remember that

maybe

[blazing field]

Not much beyond they all coming from the distortion, however

[lapis oak]

U are mean 😠

[blazing field]

Devourer fucking hates Weaver for some reason

[rich ginkgo]

they dont

[blazing field]

And i have a theory on as tow hy

[rich ginkgo]

anymore i think

[blazing field]

Weaver is the only one htat has a, i'd say, major connection to devourer

But it's nothing like the old lore connection they had

[rich ginkgo]

werent they like similar to what the guardians are for providence

[blazing field]

Signus is a distortion entity that is not a follower of Noxus nor a part of its hivemind thingamabog

[blazing field]

It's a indenpendent being with its own goals ,not affiliated with Noxus or Devourer, and who has a penchant for making bargains/deals

[turbid halo]

Is Signus just Lucifer?

[blazing field]

Yeah basically

He's satan

[turbid halo]

Lmao

What did he do to get banished from Hivemind

[halcyon seal]

signus has the most awesome fucking design in the universe and then you fight him and its CORITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[blazing field]

He didn't get banished

He just never was a part of it

Not everything in the distortion is part of the hivemind

Storm Weaver, on the other hand, was subservient to Noxus at some point but broke free from its control

[turbid halo]

You may not be part of Distortion, but Distortion will always be part of you

[blazing field]

And escaped into the overworld, safe to assume to escape Noxus

and, for some reason

[stuck knot]

ive been unable to find any info on noxus or xeroc or really anything thats ever been planned to be past yharim

[blazing field]

Devourer really, really hates Weaver and Weaver's existence seems to be one of the only things to give Devourer a noticeable sense of anxiety

[blazing field]

If you're talking about their lore, pinned message in lore discsusion
If you're talking about gmaeplay implementation ideas

well i mean

there really ain't much besides

[turbid halo]

Yharim isn't even close to being there so makes sense

[blazing field]

superbosses after yharim which may or may not be added

[turbid halo]

The Bum is sitting there

[lapis oak]

Scared of street tier is crazy

[blazing field]

There's no plans beyond that because devs aren't working either on them or yharim atm

they have other things to get done firsrt

[halcyon seal]

imagine being named the Devourer of Gods and getting scared at literally just some worm

who eats birds for fun

[vivid hemlock]

you live in the sewers

[blazing field]

I do have a theory for why this is

[stuck knot]

mostly lore and actual names, the only ones i know are xeroc and noxus and even then primarily because of wrath

[terse dew]

racist

[dense sundial]

animals are NOT BASIC they are all AWESOME and should be EQUALLY APPRECIATED as such

[terse dew]

☹️

[blazing field]

Weaver isn't even a basic animal

Slander

Weaver's probably a prototype DoG

• He's older than DoG
• Distinctly different as said by Draedon, but superficially similar enough to be confused as the same species, as seen with Yharim
• Was a part of Noxus's hivemind allegiance thingaambob, but broke free
• Devourer is scared of him and wants him dead for some reason

Like it's pretty safe to say

as one of the only storm weaver fans on earth iw ill not tolerate weaver slander

[halcyon seal]

ok lets break it down for a second

[blazing field]

Xeroc is a chill guy who likes smoking weed and Noxus is the horrors

that's basically all you need to know

/j

[halcyon seal]

weaver escaped from noxus's hivemind

[vivid hemlock]

metal worm boss

[halcyon seal]

nobody else in the distortion (probably) could

he went to the overworld and started eating Arch Wyverns, except for on legacy console

what im saying is hes the only person to have ever beaten noxus

big fuckin lightning worm upscale

[blazing field]

HIS LORE IS COOL HE'LL BE COOL EVENTUALLY

EVENTAULLY ™

look youve seen tofu weaver

theres ways tomake him peak ..

[stuck knot]

ok so basically just what wrath already has with nameless and avatar

[blazing field]

not really

[vivid hemlock]

why are you screaming at me you know what my real opinion is

[dense sundial]

yeaaah yeah that's what they all say, now let's get you to bed

[blazing field]

xeroc is nothing like nameless

[valid crypt]

Eats sky animals and has sky abilities

[blazing field]

noxus is

well ok we know nothing about the guy so its hard to say "its nothing like avatar of emptiness" but

[halcyon seal]

my real opinion is that all lore is bad. we shoudl remove all of it right now

[valid crypt]

Xeroc is someone you could do weed with prolly

Noxus will prob just jeff the kill you

[blazing field]

I think noxus PROBABLY isn't a dead god who has been so alone in its dead post-heatdeath universe that it went out of its way to invade a new universe just to be able to exist somewhere other than a completely empty void again, even if it means needing tokill said universe's own god

but yeah Xeroc is extremely far away from Nameless

atleast that oen i can say with confidence

[dense sundial]

noxus is ambiguously evil thingy that makes more thingies for ambiguously evil reasons

[halcyon seal]

youre right! noxus actually is still alive

[blazing field]

Not just in design obviously but their personalities and just general lore are nothing alike

[halcyon seal]

everything else is the same tho

[blazing field]

Basically yeah 😭

[dense sundial]

avatar is God except teetering on the edge of death

[blazing field]

Noxus and its fascinating 2l ines of ingame lore or something

[stuck knot]

i hope we get to at least someday hear the proposition xeroc mentioned in boss rush, maybe side with yharim since he actually seems cool

[blazing field]

oh dear

the user does not know

[vivid hemlock]

my god

the horror

[valid crypt]

Yharim is super gold hitler with charisma

[dense sundial]

yharim seems cool because all the game ever tells you about him is his words

[blazing field]

Deploy the orios image

[halcyon seal]

doesnt help the items are called LORE ITEMS

[stuck knot]

im going off the lore items in game alright

[halcyon seal]

implying that theyre like. the actual lore

[blazing field]

They aren't even called that ingame anymore

[valid crypt]

Called whispers ingame

[blazing field]

It's just that they've been called that for so long

[halcyon seal]

they were called lore items for a really long time

[blazing field]

It's just what the community knows them as

yeah

[halcyon seal]

i didnt know shit about lore aside from those little snippets and the scal dialogue until post-25

[stuck knot]

back in my day the lore items were super fucking broken because all of them acted like accessories without needing to be equipped

[blazing field]

Vi user you should read the documment pinned in lore discussion me and some othjer people worked on it and it gives you like all the info ever and its cool

[dense sundial]

i knew enough old lore to somehow fall in love with the astrum deus part of it

[blazing field]

: )

[valid crypt]

Yharim grooming a minor into nuking water italy cause two people he hated was inside there

[halcyon seal]

but anyways yeah yharim's not the greatest guy, i heard he doesnt like catlamitas

[stuck knot]

im currently reading the draedon comms in game rn but i plan to read that after

[halcyon seal]

oh but bees are where he draws the line

[valid crypt]

Skeletron prime whisper has yharim outright state he had people dedicated to burning civilians snd then had their souls put into the geneva suggestion maker 9000 iirc

[blazing field]

"Well i made my groomed child soldier kill thousands of people, cause a ecological collapse and the extinction of several native species, destroyed years worth of histroy and culture... But hey, i killed atleast one of the two gods of that place, so it's the ends justify the means, right?"

"Weren't those gods universally beloved by their people and seen as kind guardian figures that brought their society into a age of prosperity"

"kys"

[valid crypt]

Yeah

Lmao

[halcyon seal]

maybe we misinterpreted him. maybe he actually meant to say he had people dedicated to Bringing Joyous Gifts To civilians and then had their souls put into the Epic Awesome Happy Place 9000

[dense sundial]

so jolly

[valid crypt]

Jolly yharim

[vivid hemlock]

merry christmas

[stuck knot]

vengeance makes people do scary things

[halcyon seal]

most vengeance doesnt make people into Mega Hitler X

[valid crypt]

Vengeance for a civilisation that died centuries before he was born

[blazing field]

Yharim is john sunken cost fallacy

like unironically

[halcyon seal]

What cost fallacy.

[stuck knot]

didnt the gods also throw him into hell?

[blazing field]

100 years of crusading atp he just deludes himself fully into believing his cause is just and good and righteous even if it obviously isnt

[blazing field]

A specific group of gods

Which he killed and they became parts of the corruption/crimson

And then after that he just

kept going

Evil gods, good gods, who gaf

kill all of em

[stuck knot]

did he know it was only those gods and not all of them?

[halcyon seal]

listen ok maybe he just wanted the high score

[valid crypt]

Yes

[blazing field]

That's like

[halcyon seal]

wait what the fuck i just noticed why are you marked as a new member

[stuck knot]

pumpkin moon infinite wave but with gods and lasting 100 years instead of until sunrise

[valid crypt]

Whi

[steep path]

He views being a god as an inherent sin due to the process that creates gods requiring auric souls

[blazing field]

^

He thinks all gods are sinners

Regardless of morals

[valid crypt]

ignoring that dragons can consent

[blazing field]

And that some dragons kinda deserved it

[pulsar cobalt]

or that dragons could be dipshits

[blazing field]

And that there's more nuance to situations like these htan just Dragon Good God Bad

[stuck knot]

like the super mammoth dragon who may or may not have existed

[valid crypt]

Yharim sees morality as black and white
Dragons good
Gods bad

[blazing field]

thats not real

[pulsar cobalt]

nuance? in my story about politics? never!!

[blazing field]

scrapped boss from 50 years ago ...

[valid crypt]

Mega mammoth got reincarnated into frost dragon iirc?????

[blazing field]

Eh, kinda

Just the vague idea was there and MMD was gonna be an addon but it was discontinued

[pulsar cobalt]

maybe maybe not

[stuck knot]

im aware but i really want a dragon to be a superboss in calamity and thats the closest well ever get afaik

especially with yharon having a 10 year old sprite

[blazing field]

calamity past bosses addon tommorow

fight my zeratros

[halcyon seal]

baby desert scourge

[valid crypt]

Yharons the second strongest auric dragon ever so the only possible dragon would be zeratros who is roughly equal to yharim

Anyways chat gn

[blazing field]

goonight

[stuck knot]

other than xeroc and noxus who else is planned to be bosses

[vivid hemlock]

none

well

yharim

but i think you know that

[halcyon seal]

old duke is gonna die and get replaced by a dukewalker

[stuck knot]

i swear there was one more superboss that was planned to be post yharim

[carmine lark]

Xeroc?

[stuck knot]

other than xeroc and noxus

[distant raft]

maybe youre thinking of goozma (who got ship of theseused into noxus)

[stuck knot]

im not i know goozma was always from fan made add ons

[distant raft]

it wasnt

[stuck knot]

this is news to me

[distant raft]

ancient lore had goozma

[flat folio]

Can't believe the addons are overtaking their origins

[distant raft]

tbf i dont think goozma even had any art

[stuck knot]

i wasnt there for the much much older lore

if there was any other lore aside from what was there up to from the ashes

[pulsar cobalt]

this is like how people want astrageldon back because they genuinely believe catalyst astrageldon is what it used to be

[stuck knot]

catlyst astrageldon is hella goated but i know the old astrageldon was never as cool

[hollow harness]

lma

[distant raft]

old geldon was a strange little creature

like why did it get a buff postml

[hollow harness]

Unique AI

[flat folio]

Old Astrageldon was laser and minion spam and it did obscene damage post-ML

[distant raft]

and why did that buff make its lasers ohko you

but only on death

[pulsar cobalt]

king slime with dust lasers

peak boss design

[hollow harness]

it used to because it has the same mechanic as aureus of dropping fragments post-ml

[flat folio]

The consequences of Leviathan (the youtuber not the boss) have been disasterous

[stuck knot]

ive never been able to find any footage on old astrageldon aside from the one idle that dm dokuro has for astral disgust

[pulsar cobalt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF1sOg362lg

[hollow harness]

my old pc had a version of tmod with astrageldon still existing

Unique AI boss again

[flat folio]

funny

[stuck knot]

king slime clone with laser

[hollow harness]

obviously looking at fabsol's desire to make calamity exxo avalon this boss was inspired by that one exxo avalon slime boss

[flat folio]

Armageddon slime...

[hollow harness]

all roads lead to exxo avalon design inspiration

[pulsar cobalt]

like like like the mode !!!!

[stuck knot]

i dont know exxo avalon

ive heard of it but thats about it

[hollow harness]

in short, exxo avalon is a very old content mod

[stuck knot]

that im aware of

[hollow harness]

older than thorium I think, the mod kinda set the foundations for content mods that came after

stuff like post-game content (now post-ml)

[stuck knot]

just remembered andromeda, hope someone out there revisits that boss (lucille im looking at you)

[hollow harness]

it had th euhh super hardmode mode after you defeated the final hardmode boss at the time it was 1.2.4 tmod

this is where Wall of Steel comes from

[midnight beacon]

Good thing I’ve never seen Exxo Avalon so I can’t let my mod design get influenced by it

[hollow harness]

oh my god bruh

[midnight beacon]

It gets influenced by Calamity which is arguably worse

[flat folio]

The mod that unconsciously forces you to be inspired by it

[hollow harness]

This had to be peak game design at that modding era

[stuck knot]

the further you go back the lower the standards for a good mod are

[hollow harness]

Food for thought

[midnight beacon]

99% of cal’s mage weapons would’ve gone hard back in 2017

[hollow harness]

unironically every pre-hm desert boss has some remnant of exxo avalon in there

[flat folio]

Show addons of today to a Victorian child and they might not survive

[stuck knot]

im wondering how wrath is going to bridge the gap between mars and moon lord with it going independent of calamity

[stuck knot]

thunder bird

[hollow harness]

This is the first pre-hm, early-game desert boss ever

[midnight beacon]

Nah, that’s electric avian

[hollow harness]

Every content mod needed to have one of this in some form

[stuck knot]

ancient fossil of an ancestor to thunder bird

[midnight beacon]

I couldn’t come up with any desert boss idea that was unique so I decided to not desert boss

[pulsar cobalt]

sometimes i think wat would happen if something like slr was made in 2018

[grave geyser]

my goat

[midnight beacon]

Speaking of Starlight River, whatever happened to it?

[flat folio]

I killed it

[hollow harness]

AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAJAJJAJHA

[hoary edge]

my god I wish aureus was better than whatever this is

[grave geyser]

it had a wasp boss thats statistically identical to queen bee before queen bee was even made
even if your mod isnt inspired vanilla certainly was

[hollow harness]

sounds familiarr...

[flat folio]

Looking over past Exxo Avalon mod content after playing Calamity opens your eyes

[hollow harness]

exxo avalon also is the only mod to have ever added a different evil biome

glad that calamity didn't add one

[grave geyser]

it also has a 3rd set of early hardmode ores

because sure why not

[hollow harness]

3rd set of everything actually

including pre-hm ores

[stuck knot]

just noticed the exo mechs all fill out single digit odd numbers except for 7 which is mysteriously open to have a 4th mech there, exo brain confirmed?

[grave geyser]

no exo brains number is 0 I'm afraid

[hollow harness]

ore slimes are exxo avalon design inspired

[stuck knot]

thats not odd thats even

[grave geyser]

yeah

just because you see a pattern doesnt mean there is one

[hollow harness]

It all connects

[stuck knot]

thank god though ores would be infinitely more annoying without ore slimes

[halcyon seal]

old mods were just Like That

[hollow harness]

Now I understand Fabsol's game design decisions more

[pulsar cobalt]

theres also like 20 other references in cal mod to exxo avalon

[halcyon seal]

wait a minute

naquadah

FROM GREGTE

[hollow harness]

(used to)

[flat folio]

Ultrakill + MGRR + Avalon

[hollow harness]

WELL there might be some of them left

[halcyon seal]

sgamod references where

thats a good ass mod

[pulsar cobalt]

yea cuz the creator of exxo avalon told fab to get rid of them all

[stuck knot]

i wouldnt put ultrakill in there personally but alright

[hollow harness]

dude

fuck you

I'm adding slimes for every ore

In fact, I will do better

[flat folio]

Mostly in reference to Fabsol Yharim plans

[hollow harness]

I will add slimes for every material

There will be gel slimes in my mod

[limber wren]

Bro, wasn't Exxo Avalon gonna get official parity with Cal? I remember MURA saying that

[stuck knot]

im unaware of how yharim connects to ultrakill

[hollow harness]

You thought gel wasn't enough there will double the gel in them

[pulsar cobalt]

yharim was planned to take inspiration from one of the ultrakill bosses

[flat folio]

Fabsol wanted his AI to be a combination of Senator Armstrong and Minos Prime somehow

[pulsar cobalt]

the uhh

blue guy

yea minos prime

[hollow harness]

peak boss design (it would have been absolutely dogshit

[stuck knot]

fabsol was crazy for that, neither of those would translate to terraria very well if at all

[limber wren]

Pls answer this, I'm really confused Dx

[hollow harness]

back then with fabsol you would have to glaze it because if you said stuff criticising the idea you would be executed in public

[stuck knot]

and i wouldve died standing and being right

[hollow harness]

I think it was on fabsol's plans to colab with exxo avalon (particularly the 3rd evil second boss?)

[dusk bronze]

evil3

[dense sundial]

we may or may not have more substantial post-ml content. that is completely up in the air though

also mars is dead

[dusk bronze]

directly after evil2

[terse dew]

what would the 3rd evil biome be

the caustic

[hollow harness]

Contagion

[stuck knot]

what happened to mars?

[grave geyser]

death

nuked

[pulsar cobalt]

die

its too tied to calamity iirc

[grave geyser]

boss sucked anyway

[terse dew]

the calamity biome 2

[limber wren]

There was another Slime, right? A green one

[terse dew]

😲

[stuck knot]

the plague that was originally planned to be a biome

[stuck knot]

was mars removed or something i dont remember hearing about this

[gloomy grove]

gg

[dense sundial]

mars is a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy, and it was originally added just to fill out solyn progression, so we're replacing it with something original and properly polished

[hidden ridge]

DMs closed

[stuck knot]

i see

[pulsar cobalt]

wotg team is making a new mod that will be decoupled from calamity mod

[stuck knot]

i know

[dense sundial]

also avatar 2 will have better solyn co-op integration because solyn was pretty much designed backwards into avatar 1

[halcyon seal]

@blazing field oh moderators

[wise bolt]

tgisis os fucking funny sorry

[polar tide]

SHE JUST WANTS TO TALK TO SOMEONE

[wise bolt]

DMs open

[stuck knot]

anyways if you guys steal anything from calamity when wrath becomes independent from it, take andromeda (im begging on my hands and knees)

[halcyon seal]

Ykw you do you sophia

[wise bolt]

[tribal isle]

DMs open

[blazing field]

the humble staff mail

(i literally cant do anything i dont have 2fa 😭 )

[halcyon seal]

Oh

[halcyon seal]

✅

[hard hearth]

[hollow harness]

crazy parallels of exxo avalon

[blazing field]

terra claws

[halcyon seal]

Exxo avalon was in those fucked up pre-tmod days right

[hollow harness]

it was on the times tmod had to be installed manually

like when tmod had the jungle tree icon

[halcyon seal]

It was around in that era?

I remember like, Tremor

[stuck knot]

most tragic thing to see during my recent playthrough of calamity "a glimpse into what couldve been" on ravagers relic, that design sick as hell and im sad it wont be getting used

[hollow harness]

exxo avalon did live through 1.3

[low elm]

Barely

[grave geyser]

as it should be

[hollow harness]

practically uhh, 1.1 to 1.3

[halcyon seal]

Old 1.3 mods to me are like

Tremor

Thorium

Elements Awoken

The OLD ass fargos

And alchfull

[stuck knot]

fargos my behated and beloved

[hollow harness]

its so goofy

Hey I've seen this one somewhere

celestial onion is exxo avalonic design?

[grave geyser]

as shit as avalon looks now it was still probably among the best of its era
shits come a long way since the 1.1/1.2 era

[hollow harness]

I mean there were like 3 mods ever at that time

[blazing field]

might get used in calamity fables

plus the actual desing we get in calamity goes kind of hard too

truly two cakes

[midnight beacon]

The current one?

Or the planned one?

[blazing field]

Nah

Yes

[stuck knot]

wait whats the new design were getting in the vanilla mod

[blazing field]

The current one is basically just a exclusively inferior version of the fables/iban design

[halcyon seal]

1.1 modding was basically nonexistent besides Avalon I think

[blazing field]

The new calamity design that's being addd later goes on a entirely different direction

[halcyon seal]

1.3 was when modding really took off because of Thorium iirc

[grave geyser]

you had fuckin
omnir mod

[blazing field]

Given that ravager's lore is way different now from what it used to be, and thus that design wouldn't reall work for it

[stuck knot]

im never able to find any concept art of bosses until after its been scrapped

[hollow harness]

my god omnir mod

was it the one with the phoenix bossfights?

[blazing field]

there is a documment in pins

[midnight beacon]

I hope to make a new mod that can rival Calamity (I will fail in this endeavor)

[blazing field]

ill get the rav design

[hollow harness]

like the 3 elemental phoenixes and then in hardmode you had the mech phoenix fight

[blazing field]

But anything youve seen made by iban, safe to say its been scrapped, atleast for calamity itsel

[halcyon seal]

Frankly you can’t make a mod with as much sheer content as calamity

[blazing field]

fmay be reused in fables

[halcyon seal]

It’s not doable

[blazing field]

If you want to make a mod your best bet is ot start small

[midnight beacon]

I could compete with stronger post-ML progression and good Koret

*lore

[halcyon seal]

Like this mod has been around for a decade with I think hundreds of people total working on it

You cannot compete with that

[blazing field]

p

[grave geyser]

huh thats a new one

[blazing field]

This is a very bad mindset to have

[midnight beacon]

Anything’s possible if you have enough drugs

[halcyon seal]

Yeah you shouldn’t compete with mods

[blazing field]

If you're making a mod just to "compete" with calamity you won't get very far

[pulsar cobalt]

calamity killer mindset

[halcyon seal]

If your mod’s good, people will play it

[blazing field]

^

[midnight beacon]

True

[hollow harness]

in general yes

[midnight beacon]

Currently my mod is buns

[hollow harness]

before tmod we had tAPI

[blazing field]

If you want to make a mod or any other creative project, being fueled purely by "I want it to be better/compete with this other thing" is a horrible mindset

[grave geyser]

are tapi and tconfig the same thing or were they different

[blazing field]

Specially becasue if often tunnel visions you

[midnight beacon]

I added 2 slimes, a cool ranged weapon, and a lame mage weapon

[hollow harness]

I think they might have been different

[halcyon seal]

Did you have fun making it

[stuck knot]

oh wait that was the one i was thinking of, then whats the one thats used for the relic

[grave geyser]

another one I'd never heard of

[hollow harness]

At the time 1.3 was released (looking at forums) there was some sort of cooperative community for making mod engines

It happens that tAPI and tConfig were mods for making mods

[midnight beacon]

Yeah

[flat folio]

I'll be more sophisticated
I'll use Calamity as a springboard with cool addons, and then turn those addons into addoffs that exist independently

The old community I fostered around Calamity will be held hostage and have no choice but to play something that isn't Calamity! (((Or just stop playing but ignore that

It's the perfect plan...

[midnight beacon]

I will have more fun when it’s good

Oh wait holy shit

[halcyon seal]

Then your mod doesn’t suck

[midnight beacon]

Lucille!!!!!!!!

[formal zealot]

when has the "this game will KILL the popular one" mindset ever worked

[midnight beacon]

You are a big inspiration

[formal zealot]

there's a dozen failed or just ok smash bros killers

[hollow harness]

tAPI proceeds tConfig

[halcyon seal]

Sonic?

Well no thats been 30 years of failure

[stuck knot]

counter arguement: just play those indipendent mods WITH calamity

[grave geyser]

so tconfig -> tapi or other way around

[stuck knot]

sonic ALMOST did that to mario

[distant raft]

countercounter argument: that will ruin the balance

[hollow harness]

The former

[halcyon seal]

I prefer to show up to my players’ homes and beat them with crowbars until they uninstall calamity

[grave geyser]

seems ineficient

try malware

[formal zealot]

gordon freeman reference
calamity half life 3

[flat folio]

Yeah but the play is that you gotta make the independent mods popular first
And in order to do that you gotta utilize Calamity's power via weird addons and THEN you make it independent

[hollow harness]

also on a side note the other competitor for tmod at the time it was being developed initially was supposedly something in the works called "prism"?

[stuck knot]

countercountercounter argument: people play with calamity and thorium together

[hollow harness]

but well it is all history

[grave geyser]

mhm

[halcyon seal]

It’s weird that two sandbox games have had alternative mod loaders called prism

[hollow harness]

terraria modding history is kinda fun,, makes you think about design decisions of most content mods in a better way and from a historical perspective

[midnight beacon]

Lucille do you teach people / have a course on how to make Terraria things really pretty?

[flat folio]

I dun have the patience to sit down and do that shtuff unless the person I'm teaching is a gud friend

[midnight beacon]

ok

[stuck knot]

you could just make liek a google doc explaining how you do it tho

[midnight beacon]

I will have to stare into WoTG's source code instead
as usual

[flat folio]

I could do that for tricks of mine but there's way too much institutional knowledge and intuition that can't really be condensed into a doc of any size

A lot of it is just practice and experimentation

[stuck knot]

well do you have any basics youre able to share?

[midnight beacon]

I would like to believe I know how Avatar's "Iron Star" works
You wrap the texture around a circle shape, right?

[flat folio]

The iron star effect is achieved via a fake 3D sphere projection on the texture UVs
In reality it's just a single shader that paints in the illusion on an invisible square canvas

[midnight beacon]

Could you also tell me how you make cool explosions?

[flat folio]

Depends a lot on wut kind of explosion I want
Usually it'll involve some form of polar coordinates if I'm making it via shader doe

[midnight beacon]

shader code seems very confusing

[flat folio]

Funny jumpscare

[midnight beacon]

is this for the iron star?

0_0

[flat folio]

It's for a different, newer effect

[stuck knot]

before i start reading up on calamity lore im going to once again beg you steal the scrapped andromeda boss, goodbye now

[halcyon seal]

I really should learn how to properly code soon

Last time I tried was like a 7th grade CS class lol

[midnight beacon]

gonna learn myself

I'm in AP Computer Science Principles

but it's not good enough

I need more knowledge

I bet learning sin() / cos() / tan() functions will help me immensely

will it?

[flat folio]

Depends greatly on your use-cases
Sinusoids are everywhere in game dev for motion or simple animations

I rarely need the tangent function. But it is useful as an angle -> slope converter sometimes

[midnight beacon]

to make good Terraria weapons and stuff
things that arc
would you say that's my next course of action?

[flat folio]

Maybe

[midnight beacon]

ok

and again, you are my inspiration

I want to make cool stuff like you

:D

[gray trench]

This is actually the coolest bit of vfx coding i've ever seen wtf

[gloomy grove]

lucille moving like prime all-might

[hollow harness]

the lebron james of tmod?

[fathom girder]

Lucille is swag

[pseudo vector]

actual witchcraft

[fathom girder]

Only a witch could make those WOTG bosses c'mon

[pseudo vector]

that code is just like

how and what the fuck

[fathom girder]

math :D

[flat folio]

The concept is relatively simple. It's just a star temperature -> RGB color convertor
Doe the actual physics underlying that is a bit funny

[pseudo vector]

[fathom girder]

wait is this for a mod

[flat folio]

Yeah

[fathom girder]

are you calculating the

lmao

[flat folio]

I couldn't leave well enough alone with a boring precalculated gradient

[fathom girder]

that's sick

[pseudo vector]

that’s insane lol

[fathom girder]

Did you take classes to learn how to be so optimized, or did you just kinda

figure it out

[rancid pagoda]

I mean, a really big gradient image could have done it precise enough

[flat folio]

Obviously yeah

But it's boring

I want to be challenged

I want to learn new things

[blazing field]

How good is your c# knowledge generally

[midnight beacon]

not good ;-;

[blazing field]

Bc if u dont atleast know c# basics you arent really gonna be able to code much

For tmod that is

[midnight beacon]

I know a little bit

[blazing field]

I recommend checking out th official c# tutorial if you haven't already

There's also examplemod and tmodloader's docummentation for tmod specific stuff. frankly i'm not a fan of them (the docummentation more so, example mod is ... fine, i guess. not good but. fine.) but i also dont like tmod programming in general so

[hollow harness]

example mod is good to look at they say

[stiff light]

who up coding

n programming n typing and shit

[tribal isle]

Type shit

[deft lily]

burp hi chat hi

[stiff light]

burp

[hollow harness]

type xi

[deft lily]

type

[tropic jolt]

those who code:
crows who mow:

[deft lily]

crow of judgement

[stiff light]

xi

me when im asked what comes after 10

[vestal osprey]

Did I miss the daily spoiler?

[drowsy reef]

That is a grackle

[worldly gorge]

Where can i read about the new god damn update

[tropic jolt]

you can read about the new god damn update on the calamity website: https://calamitymod.com/
or in #mod-announcements & #spoilers #changelogs

[lavish otter]

Or the god damn future content doc in the fucking pins
(Here's the link! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NpAT_-mky8XjOf6HA5lOw3kNHjwwCSuaLwSlFU1ggB4/edit?usp=sharing )

[vivid hemlock]

god damn

[fathom girder]

fucking pins

[cobalt wharf]

disagree

going into it with your only reference being the source code of other mods, it’s ok

ignore the fact it took me half a year before i started doing real shit

[fathom girder]

While that's most certainly possible

It limits your total knowledge

you only know the very basics of whatever you're looking at instead of looking at what all is actually possible

[midnight beacon]

I will manage (hopefully)

My next weapon will literally be Snowgrave

[cobalt wharf]

most knowledge checks in tmodding so far seem to be just general stuff about tmodloader itself rather than c#
might be wrong though!

[fathom girder]

Having broader knowledge is a good way to make efficient and properly formatted code

Which uh

for tmod

that's very very important

That's the difference between infernum's "barely not lagging" to WOTG's "Put 10 avatars of emptiness on the screen and have no lag"

[dull heart]

Both are pretty important

but I agree that the larger thing is the Tmod intricacies

[fathom girder]

both is good

[vast ferry]

I mean

TMod code and optimization are both shit.

I've had TMod without mods run worse than base game.

[tribal isle]

Is it supposed to run smoother

[vast ferry]

Yup.

They just don't optimize.

[fossil dew]

Do you guys know what happened to that one wip old duke resprite triangle made

This one

[fathom girder]

I think it's shelved for now

This was part of the scope creep and like

it was around this time that the devs realized just how out of hand SSO was getting lul

[blazing field]

That resprite in particular is scrapped

They're taking OD in a different direction

[blazing field]

This wasn't for sso to begin with p sure. It was just something triangle did as a break from sso, it wasn't much of a priority

[fathom girder]

ohh I see

[blazing field]

Just yeah, something to do for fun, we can come back to it later when we're actually adding it

[fathom girder]

Oh huh, dragon OD isn't happening?

[blazing field]

But regardless that sprite did end up being scrapped since OD is being taken in a diff direction, thanks to fabdeath

More freedom with boss design and all that

Dragon OD is happening

But not that Dragon OD

[fathom girder]

Oh, just in a different way

cool

[blazing field]

he's gonna be unrelated to pigs/fishrons as a whole

and lean more into the dragon aesthethics

atleast iirc, dont quote me on that

[fathom girder]

Someone make a yharon resprite with OD's palette

[blazing field]

vaguely remember smth smth heavy eastern dragon inspiration

[gloomy grove]

id assume the dude is gonna get a rename

[blazing field]

yeah

we don't have one yet but its p much g uaranteed he'll get a new name

since

old duke. look inside

not related to duke

[gloomy grove]

cutting all ties to duke fishron would be a nice start yeah

[blazing field]

fish of theseus

[fathom girder]

Just call it ancient dragon

ds2 reference

[blazing field]

He basically just keeps all the actually good parts of old duke which are uhh

• the lore is actually pretty cool
• post ml sulph sea boss since having a boss there at that point of progression is good
• yeah thats it

and the music of course but thats a given

[fathom girder]

are you a mh player

lore fan perhaps

Cuz now I'm thinkin' about equal dragon weapon and how that thing is all maimed and gross in the one piece of art it has

[blazing field]

i am in fact a mh player

[fathom girder]

fantastic

[blazing field]

Old Duke lore is really interesting to me, atleast, the stuff we've seen on the discord

the stuff ingame is nothingburger

[fathom girder]

many such cases

[blazing field]

like wow uhh its. old duke. and it sure is a duke thats old yepp

[fathom girder]

is uh

is brainstorm adding lore stuff, or is that reserved for SSO and beyond

[blazing field]

Brainstorm lore additions r p minor

[fathom girder]

mk

[blazing field]

There'll be more later though

[dull heart]

I think it's mostly just vanilla bestiary edits

[blazing field]

Dunno if necessarily just on sso

[blazing field]

I believe those were postponed

Because writers weren't satisfied with alot of em

[fathom girder]

I'm stoked to see the yharim sending stone thing

[blazing field]

oh yeah i'm excited for that too

[fathom girder]

I think it was reb that talked about it ages ago for the lore phone to replace lore items

[blazing field]

i first heard if from stip but it mightve bveen mentioned again by reb

[fathom girder]

it was so long ago that I don't remember who exactly talked about it lul

[blazing field]

old duke lore (unreleased): spiteful ancient dragon that was one of the very first dragons to be born after they had ran out of auric souls, feeling contempt and jealously towards his auric brethren as they made him feel like an outcast and developing a inferiority complex, makes s it his life goal to prove how much BETTER he was than those FILTHY auric dragons that and in the process becomes an extremely self-cented and arrogant bastard that will do anything to prove his superiority and survive. And it does work, i mean, he outlives literally every single auric dragon except for one

old duke lore (ingame): uhm the old duke is a duke thats old