kinda
#calamity-update-talk
fathom girder
hot knot
it splits up to four worms from what i remember
hot knot
mm
i done my first inf run in a crimson world and stuck around cause ichor (spear) my beloved
modern grove
Tbh I don't think I super like how it always breaks into parts at specific points in the fight. What I like about vanilla eow is how it fully depends on you and you gotta manage its state, if you attack carelessly you will split it into 10 bazillion small annoying worms coming from all directions, but if you're more careful, you can always attack the head/tail and keep it as 1 worm
I think it's very interesting dynamic in the fight that surprisingly was never really explored in modded worms I think
hot knot
what it is kinda fits for infernum specifically imo
dense sundial
infernum eater is the way it is because lucille literally could not figure out what to do with it
hot knot
more centralized on dodging and stuff instead of “try to survive this random-bullshit-go”
dense sundial
it's hard to make a good boss when there can be any given number of the boss active
hot knot
agreed
west isle
i think eater of worlds is one of those boss everyone wants to be reworked into something better but nobody knows how to while keeping its own gimmik (being able to split into multiples of itself
hot knot
if i were making eow inf i woulda made the worms do specific attacks at certain ranges of length
but not in a way that ends up covering the whole screen
west isle
yea but then u would have to count how many segments each part has
mid fight
while dodging stuff
fathom girder
EoW can be simple, with complexity existing when numbers make those simple mechanics more nuanced and difficult
it's hard to remake because it's the opposite of basically every other boss in the game
arctic cliff
honestly i dislike destroyer because he doesnt really have a successor to eow's mechanic, even if that was hard
i dont really count his body being breakable and spawning probes really
blazing field
i dislike destroyer because hes boring as fuck
vivid hemlock
personally i dont really like any of the mech bosses since theyre not all that interesting but i can tolerate like the twins
i love upgraded versions of phm bosses
blazing field
top 3 worst bosses in vanilla
hes a damage sponge that spams lasers at you
thats it
thats all he does
🥹
arctic cliff
i think destroyer should hone in more on that breaking mechanic for his rev version
i could see him having a first phase where you have to break all parts of him first to progress, and then the second phase does sometihng else
like a funkier version of storm weaver's armor phase
fierce hearth
Broken segments deal more damage because of exposed metal edges and electrical discharges
hard copper
Clearly it should be a scarf
raw vector
DoG scarf that is comically long
modern grove
thats all he does
Destroyer has a pretty interesting idea in it's fight, the way you manage your HP. Like, the attacks are completely unfair and you can't dodge a lot of them, but you can heal by killing the probes. I think there is a word to describe it but I can't pick up anything. Idk how intentional this idea was, and if it was intentional it may seem very out of place next to all other bosses, but I think it's pretty interesting and destroyer becomes cooler if you view it through this HP dynamic way
It's almost like tug of war?
torn cairn
what do you guys think of the alcohol changes in spoilers?
dusk bronze
pretty dope
tropic jolt
I didnt read them because im a calamity fan
dusk bronze
@strong isle is onyx lab also changed in brainstorm
spark kiln
brain lab
deft lily
its where i rip peoples brains out and eat them study them
strong isle
<@539939237898747947> is onyx lab also changed in brainstorm
(I didn't rebuild the labs, it was @agile citrus)
But I think Onyx is the only one who wasn't rebuilt, due to being so recent
agile citrus
fathom girder
its where i rip peoples brains out and ~~eat them~~ study them
Unrelated but why are your teeth blackened and diseased
deft lily
Unrelated but why are your teeth blackened and diseased
how'd you know
fathom girder
Context clues
rare tinsel
Unrelated but why are your teeth blackened and diseased
mine typically just fall out
fathom girder
I was referencing the disease that eating human brains causes
slate folio
🔔
dull heart
what do you guys think of the alcohol changes in spoilers?
Peak (biased)
gray trench
what do you guys think of the alcohol changes in spoilers?
Grape beer might be unhealthy for the game but peak overall
fathom girder
grape beer would make ultima cleaver good
dull heart
grape beer probably needs a nerf
tribal isle
I think grape beer would be most useful in melee builds
dull heart
amen
gray trench
It's a little silly even on ranged setups
dull heart
no, summon builds actually
fathom girder
summons finally not being able to miss would be nice
gray trench
no, summon builds actually
Also cnidarian performance seems really low still but that could be skill issue 
dull heart
when used with minions it should outperform leather whip
gray trench
It does, but not for the effort i feel like I'm putting in, and the actual performance difference since it's used for a total of 1 boss is... Not that noticeable? Atleast for me
It's like 10 seconds better give or take
Definitely improvement it's awful in 0.7 (not really but)
dull heart
it does also get to have significantly more range than everything else
gray trench
Very true
jagged cliff
It was a bit useful for perforators
but its minmaxing damage
and theres far better ways you can get more damage out of whips
gray trench
It was a bit useful for perforators
Snapthorn is better there now
jagged cliff
Snapthorn is better there now
I mean whenever they are out of snapthorn range
gray trench
it does also get to have significantly more range than everything else
Something i actually like is that multiclass on summoner feels way better
jagged copper
It's almost like tug of war?
problem is that a boss where dodging is so unfeasible is not a very well designed one
that has plagued destroyer since its creation
many mods have tried and subsequently failed to make it less spammy and flawed
sterile moss
Great summoner becomes even more op
hard copper
I think instead of crafting Bloody Mary, you should have to say Bloody Mary 3 times while holding a magic mirror
sterile moss
And if you say biggie smalls instead?
tribal isle
if the terrarian is me does the terrarian also die forever
dusk bronze
✅
hasty hawk
I think instead of crafting Bloody Mary, you should have to say Bloody Mary 3 ti...
you should say Bloody Mary 3 times in front of a bartender
digital seal
what happened to the teaser for xerocs concept theme?
deft lily
what happened to the teaser for xerocs concept theme?
one of the composers who worked on it leaked many WIP things from calamity and several calamity related projects
so he and the teasr in #spoilers was removed
and also was a general asshole to his peers behind the scenes
digital seal
ah that is unfortunate, ty for updating me
deft lily
yw
vivid hemlock
all of the pieces of the redesign that have been posted publically
plus a head gore
blazing field
praying that tobias scourge dosen't get scrapped ..
i love this beast
Iirc it was almost finished before he retired
so there's still hope surely ..
vivid hemlock
its been done
blazing field
And triangle worked with tobias plenty of times before so maybe he could finish up whatever's missing
Plus it's a much smaller sprite than DoG
And unlike DoG i think there isn't a major amount of dissatisfaction with it indev
I'd understand if it got scrapped but im a big fan of tobias scourge ......
hoping that it makes it
i also hope that tobias's concept art still gets used because ough some of that stuff was so cool ...
tobias polter 🥹
wise bolt
praying that tobias scourge dosen't get scrapped ..
unless tobias decides to pull it, it'll be used im p sure
too late to be going back on it now
fathom girder
you say that
anything could change
have you actually asked tobi or has it been mostly assumed
autumn pollen
who tobias
wise bolt
have you actually asked tobi or has it been mostly assumed
i did ask him about using the design in a cal related project and his response was "if its being used in cal" or something around those lines iirc
id have 2 check
fathom girder
ah, okay
wise bolt
he seems alright with it, though
blazing field
yeah seems like tobias dosen't mind it still being used
if he wanted to pull his stuff he'd have done that atp
wise bolt
he'd also likely have talked to ozz about it
fathom girder
just wanted to make sure it wasn't just assumed or whatever
wise bolt
fathom girder
pretty swag
wise bolt
yaya
autumn pollen
lizard scourge
i dont think ive actually seen that one yet
fathom girder
It's not fully public rn, is why
autumn pollen
ah
wise bolt
ye
vivid hemlock
j
fathom girder
indeedie doooo
I forget, did tobias help with the yharon sprite, or did he make it
wise bolt
dia did the yharon sprite
wise bolt
i can't say i'm personally the fondest of it but it is a really sick sprite
especially at such a size
props to dia 
deft lily
hello astrum deus from terraria calamity mod
fathom girder
what's not to like about it?
I can see a small gripe about the design being very "yeah that's a dragon"
wise bolt
what's not to like about it?
its awesome work, just not to my own tastes is all
wise bolt
oh ! its not the design, the design is fine, i prefer the old resprite a bit more
dia's sprite has very vibrant colors and the feathers are quite sharp but that's about all my gripes
fathom girder
I think it makes sense for the dragon of rebirth to be vibrant and lively like that
Though I did also like the other resprite with the like
magma tail
wise bolt
i think the feather tail works well with the rest of the design
wise bolt
I think it makes sense for the dragon of rebirth to be vibrant and lively like t...
oh definitely, just the saturation hurts my eyes a little. wonderful colors, albeit very bright
autumn pollen
Yharon noir
swift hatch
is the brainstorm update the sunken sea one or no
autumn pollen
no
fathom girder
Brainstorm's content is basically gonna be all the extra nonsense that caused SSO to take so long to develop
swift hatch
ohhh so like an inbetween?
swift hatch
the brainstorm one?
fathom girder
mhm
swift hatch
im so excited i havent played calamity in a while
fathom girder
think of it almost as a remaster to a buncha aspects of the mod
lavish otter
dia's sprite has very vibrant colors and the feathers are quite sharp but that's...
Agreed on that, honestly, I think the reds could be a bit more cooled down
wise bolt
my only other gripe is that the feathers elsewhere (i.e. the legs) are very defined so i personally feel it'd feel benefit from more implied texture
autumn pollen
just get some ice
swift hatch
does sunken sea have a release window or just brainstorm
fathom girder
voidfrost time
fathom girder
SSO has no release date
gray trench
Why is the worm eating teh worm
swift hatch
ahhh no worries
fathom girder
but brainstorm is set to release sometime before march
swift hatch
oh wow thats soon
fathom girder
mhm
swift hatch
im excited for 1.4.5 too i think thats this month sometime?
fathom girder
who knows
autumn pollen
im so excited for all the reworks
swift hatch
oh wow im watching a video on brainstorm and its huge
all the boss reworks are so cool
autumn pollen
im having a brainstorm rn
harsh schooner
So no head Sprite?
stark quail
i wanna do another calamity run but knowing me ill be playing 1.4.5 for 309 years
fathom girder
all the stuff you see in brainstorm is why SSO was taking so long lul
all that stuff was the scope creep
wise bolt
Chat why is dog eating deus
whar
hollow harness
im excited for 1.4.5 too i think thats this month sometime?
Most likely yes
stark quail
iirc they outright said itd be this month
swift hatch
i remember they said mid dec to late jan
swift hatch
im guessing like 20th-29th of jan tbh
hollow harness
wise bolt
does sunken sea have a release window or just brainstorm
also no, if anything it might be a while until sso as most devs probably wanna take a break from it
fathom girder
1.4.5 tomorrow
blazing field
brainstorm is either this motnh or the next
swift hatch
ya def thats so fair
fathom girder
..christ
vivid hemlock
So no head Sprite?
the head sprite is in that image
fathom girder
it really has been that long, hasn't it
wise bolt
it really has been that long, hasn't it
lots of stuff happening in that duration of time ...the horrors
vivid hemlock
the head sprite is in that image
the desert scourge is a beaked lizard-like creature now
stark quail
the desert scourge is a beaked lizard-like creature now
aw
fathom girder
and the blessings
stark quail
i liked it when Worm
gray trench
lots of stuff happening in that duration of time ...the horrors
Tofu
Why is dog eating deus
blazing field
the Horrors ™
fathom girder
Fab being gone is still the best thing to happen to the mod
autumn pollen
im very hopeful and optimistic for the future of Calamity
and i will continue to ignore the reddit
deft lily
wise bolt
the reddit
fathom girder
The red nation let's goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
blazing field
<:ozzatron:1455887229045178388>
i am turning into ozzatron
deft lily
im very hopeful and optimistic for the future of Calamity
and i will continue to...
wise decision
deft lily
i am turning into ozzatron
😨
stark quail
reddit is only good for tech support and nothing else
gray trench
im very hopeful and optimistic for the future of Calamity
and i will continue to...
It's very good on the changes i've seen
wise bolt
scary. i just post and disappear i am not sticking around to see the other nonsense the place gets up to
gray trench
scary. i just post and disappear i am not sticking around to see the other nonse...
Do you still post on your reddit
wise bolt
Do you still post on your reddit
yea but not frequently
gray trench
I usually see the X twitter posts
autumn pollen
It's very good on the changes i've seen
and from what ive seen in whatever spoilers and stuff, i agree
blazing field
I go to the calreddit for the sake of my glorious crusade
wise bolt
i'm on uhh reddit twt and tumblr. and maybe ill start using insta again sometime
instagram 
hollow harness
please disable insta comments
wise bolt
LMAOO
fathom girder
calamity tiktok when
deft lily
calamity tiktok when
kys (keep yourself safe)
autumn pollen
CalamityGPT when
hollow harness
like literally insta has dogshit gifs spread all over the place its insane
hollow harness
TRUE
wise bolt
calamity has such minimal presence on insta i doubt anything'll happen
hollow harness
actually deranged platform
wise bolt
combined with the fact that nobody gaf about artists that dont have a million bajillion followers on there
i am safe. for now
deft lily
soontm............
wise bolt
hollow harness
rappenem actually...
autumn pollen
also if i ever get the money i WILL be becoming an auric tier patreon donor
wise bolt
$50 for brainstorm...
autumn pollen
microtransactions update when
deft lily
also if i ever get the money i WILL be becoming an auric tier patreon donor
if you join im canceling mine
blazing field
brainstorm for 50
deft lily
/j
wise bolt
microtransactions update when
sorry man we gotta kill you now :(
fathom girder
microtransactions update when
autumn pollen
damn
deft lily
natural selection
autumn pollen
nice knowing y'all for the all the time ive been in here and not active
gray trench
It's worth it
autumn pollen
just give me ownership of Calamity
deft lily
true
fathom girder
if I had an income I'd 100% be an auric patron
gray trench
just become a dev. free access to everything
Actually you'd get paid for it too 
We love commission work
blazing field
just become a dev. free access to everything
tofu go vouch for me
make me into a lore writer
still bluff
just become a dev. free access to everything
Cam confirm
wise bolt
cheese ten money
still bluff
Make berecca add you iirc
blazing field
4 dablon
gray trench
make me a voice actor for DoG
DoG's real name is Paul
deft lily
gray trench
We decided
still bluff
make me owner and my first order of business is to delete the mod
Calamity 3
fathom girder
Paul makes sense
wise bolt
the end of calamity...?
autumn pollen
no more spending on food and water, only Calamity
still bluff
You don't need water, brainstorm will sustain you
gray trench
The End of the Cruel World
Umbara were you in vc when we decided that DoG's name was Paul and oz told us no
autumn pollen
what are we, some kind of... cruel world?
gray trench
deft lily
Umbara were you in vc when we decided that DoG's name was Paul and oz told us no
idk i wasn't listening
gray trench
what are we, some kind of... cruel world?
Some brutal and stained calamity
gray trench
idk i wasn't listening
Unfortunate
still bluff
Exceptionally auric colored chat
gray trench
DoG is named Paul
gray trench
Exceptionally auric colored chat
I've been extremely active lately
wise bolt
whos paul
gray trench
You were there for that were you not tofu
autumn pollen
Some brutal and stained calamity
"man, that jungle dragon sure is roaring"
harsh schooner
So uh What is the desert scourge head resprite
wise bolt
who's tofu
gray trench
harsh schooner
Food
gray trench
Did BoC eat your brain
autumn pollen
John Calamity
wise bolt
So uh What is the desert scourge head resprite
was it not on the sheet of sprites that altraxia sent ?
vivid hemlock
So uh What is the desert scourge head resprite
#calamity-update-talk message the bottom most sprite
harsh schooner
No?
wise bolt
oh vanillin sent it
harsh schooner
Thats justo blood
fathom girder
we got half of the head gore
autumn pollen
https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/711268703991365642/1458260072013...
you sure that aint the tail?
vivid hemlock
you sure that aint the tail?
its the head
harsh schooner
Is that the head?!
autumn pollen
oh
interesting
fathom girder
it is the head
wise bolt
thats the head bro
harsh schooner
Then what is the tail?!
hushed hazel
we haven't seen the tail
arctic rune
Then what is the tail?!
the part at the end of the creature trust
vivid hemlock
heres an old (i said its old okay do not say this is the current one istg) iteration of the head for reference
cobalt wharf
heres an old (i said its old okay do not say this is the current one istg) itera...
i think the same thing everytime i see this gif
hushed hazel
good
fathom girder
blesert gourge
autumn pollen
lizard scourge
harsh schooner
Wait holdup more slowly im getting overstimulated
wise bolt
fat gecko
harsh schooner
Gecko
autumn pollen
Wait holdup more slowly im getting overstimulated
go on youtube kids you'll have a world of a time
wise bolt
not actually sure if its a gecko or something else. not familiar with my reptiles
regardless. good specimen
mystic eagle
not actually sure if its a gecko or something else. not familiar with my reptile...
It's not a cat atleast
autumn pollen
make the desert scourge a blobfish
harsh schooner
I mean it has a texture of a rock
blazing field
not actually sure if its a gecko or something else. not familiar with my reptile...
I think it takes inspiration from armadillo lizards for one
wise bolt
oh i mean the.. little guy i sent
blazing field
i may be stupid
harsh schooner
Snails have mouths like that
blazing field
yea das a gecko
wise bolt
smar
harsh schooner
U smart
wise bolt
fat gecko :)
autumn pollen
becoming education
harsh schooner
Spooky
autumn pollen
edumacationalism
harsh schooner
D:
harsh schooner
Ö
blazing field
autumn pollen
renaissance paintings
harsh schooner
That should be in the game
autumn pollen
1/1000000000 chance to drop from desert or aquatic scourge
harsh schooner
Yeah
wise bolt
roy concept art
blazing field
truly
autumn pollen
just get unstuck from the bank
fathom girder
yeah use /unstuck
wise bolt
tru
blazing field
i wanna work on roy stuff but im stuck at a fucken bank and i didn't bring my i...
hell tortu ...
wise bolt
cheese save me
polar tide
i wanna work on roy stuff but im stuck at a fucken bank and i didn't bring my i...
eats you
polar tide
:)
wise bolt
::)
hushed hazel
#wholesome i think
vivid hemlock
the evils
polar tide
#wholesome i think
no its fucked up and violent
wise bolt
im literally being torn to shreds rn. absolute bloodbath
boreal edge
How can I watch
fathom girder
is someone selling tickets
amber egret
summer shore
corn devour of gods
slate folio
ploo
strong isle
We should make an NPC called Codseeker Gharim
deft lily
TRUE
strong isle
And he's just this cool wandering fisherman
deft lily
real
frail owl
no my romulus
dull heart
I have a spoiler
gloomy grove
1.4.5 today
hasty hawk
We should make an NPC called Codseeker Gharim
What about a Codeseeker
strong isle
That would be quite handy
vast ferry
inner timber
low% in 1.4.5 requires only 5 bosses
who are the bosses
hasty hawk
who are the bosses
If I had to guess:
Destroyer (Rox skip)
Cultist
Moon Lord
Scal
Draedon
actually no you need cosmilite anvil
inner timber
If I had to guess:
Destroyer (Rox skip)
Cultist
Moon Lord
Scal
Draedon
gfb, stroyer is 3 bosses
hmm
hasty hawk
So its likely
Clone (to make eidolists spawn, stuff gotten thx to Rox skip)
Cultist (to fight ML as well as Cosmic Manipulator)
Moon Lord (to have overloaded soldiers spawn underground)
Scal (shimmer auric mines to get everything to spawn her)
Exos (shimmer auric mines too)
before any dev comes try and get me for “leaking” auric mine, that thing was revealed over a year ago
and clone no longer needs mythril anvil next patch to make this possible
since afaik theres no way to get early mythril/ori in gfb other than Rox skip to then summon mechs (which you cant thx to Gfb needing Ocram’s razor)
buoyant pulsar
still so sad this video has no audio cause i want SO BAD to hear the effervescence sfx i made in game
orchid finch
I am nuking your address
that doesn't sound nice at all
hasty hawk
YOU CAN GET EARLY THE WAND IN GFB
Shimmer Auric Landmine into Bars and then into ores and souls
Use souls to make The Wand
buoyant pulsar
i think in gfb they should progression swap the wand and the wand of sparking
inner timber
So its likely
Clone (to make eidolists spawn, stuff gotten thx to Rox skip)
Cult...
no cryonic, unless life alloy is getting killed
orchid finch
i think in gfb they should progression swap the wand and the wand of sparking
true?
hasty hawk
no cryonic, unless life alloy is getting killed
Auric from auric landmines shimmer chain
inner timber
Auric from auric landmines shimmer chain
cryonic is not going in the shimmer chain
lyric trellis
Use souls to make The Wand
Will almost make it was good as it was in 1.4.5
orchid finch
how is cryonic related to this
inner timber
inner timber
how is cryonic related to this
life alloy required for exos
hasty hawk
wait shit cant make early The Wand since it needs Cosmic Anvil
orchid finch
oh you guys are cooking up the new low%
inner timber
like, ok
cultist is required for ancient manipulator
scal and exos are the end goal
dog is likely required because of cosmic anvil + he drops the wand so it would cut yharon out anyways
unless they're doing an infernum and allowing eidolists to spawn and drop tablets preboss, calclone or wall are needed, likely clone for ashes to spawn scal
hasty hawk
wait fuck we still need DoG
inner timber
if not you could drop calclone for ravager for life alloy and i believe ashes since iirc the non calamity cores are getting removed so he'll just drop cores of calamity, which would cut out calclone's necessity
hasty hawk
but how would one spawn DoG without phantoplasm
inner timber
so like best i could see is like. rav cultist ml dog exos scal
ml skip (at least currently) requires minimum 3 other bosses (aureus, who isnt accessible phm in gfb, plantera, who currently isnt accessible phm but i believe will be in brainstorm, and one of the sentinels for necroplasm),
dull heart
like, ok
cultist is required for ancient manipulator
scal and exos are the end g...
cultist is required for ancient manipulator
wrong
cultist is not one of the 5
that is all i'm saying
inner timber
so that's whats being changed, no more manipulator requirement?
inner timber
so that's whats being changed, no more manipulator requirement?
at least one of the things being changed
hasty hawk
unless theres a funny shimmer
inner timber
if just cutting it to rav ml dog exos scal that is 5 but no frags
i really cannot see it being a ml skip, so is cultist not required for ml in gfb
unless the skip is made easier
well, with less bosses
hasty hawk
you need mythril anvil for Death whistle
inner timber
being changed
the most confusing thing here is ml, since you can't skip him without adding bosses
even if we could drop him AND ravager to kill plant and aureus you'd still need necro from a sentinel, unless the gfb drops are changing
shit thats still no life alloy
i was thinking plant aureus signus scal exos if cosmic anvil wasnt needed but there's no life alloy
and if you do cv instead of signus there's no ashes
and you cant just do permafrost using the delicious meat either cuz that needs pyrogen dead which would either need wall or duke
inner timber
i was thinking plant aureus signus scal exos if cosmic anvil wasnt needed but th...
oh yeah this also assumes preboss plant is possible in gfb
atp id just be guessing changes
if cultist isnt needed wouldnt that also mean that a lot of post ml things are no longer ancient manipulator? or is there an alternate method to getting manipulator
if its latter that'd be interesting
even if it is just gfb
inner timber
i was thinking plant aureus signus scal exos if cosmic anvil wasnt needed but th...
no wait this wouldnt have solar frags
im outta ideas
brittle kernel
is enforcer getting nuked in brainstorm?
buoyant pulsar
yes
lyric trellis
if cultist isnt needed wouldnt that also mean that a lot of post ml things are n...
Yes
I hope they all use ice machine and sky mill instead
terse dew
new crafting station that requires 1 of every block obtainable in phm
inner timber
Yes
okay so the only thing im missing in my theoretical shenanigans would be solar fragment for rune of kos
fierce hearth
Maybe Deus drops?
dull heart
okay so the only thing im missing in my theoretical shenanigans would be solar f...
your shenanigans aren't quite right still
but i won't say how sorry
fierce hearth
I do wonder what GFB has to do with this
Only thing I can think of that'd reduce total bosses is mechdusa
misty wren
your mind is too limited
fierce hearth
:(
misty wren
forget the boundaries of what is obtainable in vanilla this is calamity we on wacky shit on gfb
fierce hearth
I never play GFB so it's not something I'm familiar with
inner timber
I do wonder what GFB has to do with this
different boss drops
dull heart
who's ready for spoiler of the day
spoiler: evolution dodge effect got more than a 100x buff
lavish otter
The hell-
barren hollow
spoiler: evolution dodge effect got more than a 100x buff
Who's evolution?
blazing field
Who's evolution?
item
ceaseless expert item
p sure
yerah
well its not expert rn but i assume will be in bs
lavish otter
Ohhhh- huh, I didn't know that was a thing
blazing field
since its inverting the thing calamity did where expert items dont exist anymore
😭 😭
dull heart
yeah it's the expert
it's funny because it scaled off classic mode damage on the reflected projectile
terse dew
Inverting calamity mod into not calamity mod
dull heart
so reflecting a scal fireball did like 850 damage total
even if that hit that's like 10-30 dps
now it scales with difficulty properly and also just flat out does 50x more dmg
barren hollow
Nevermind you just explained it
dull heart
it's 500/1000/1500x dmg depending on difficulty
still not sure it'll be good
i also made sure it actually hits
barren hollow
it's 500/1000/1500x dmg depending on difficulty
I mean 300x1500 is almost a half million damage. Or does it take armor/defense into consideration
dull heart
no attack does 300 in classic
it scales from classic damage
due to Terraria Code
actually it might be even less
barren hollow
Oh, what's the highest damage attack in classic cal? Do you know?
dull heart
basically
scal Brimstone Hellblast says it does this on wiki right
well evolution thinks it does 85
so lol
barren hollow
well evolution thinks it does 85
That's still 127,000 damage. In the highest difficulty.
dull heart
can't forget DR
barren hollow
So it does scale of DR
dull heart
and yeah evolution is better in master than below due to the scaling
dull heart
So it does scale of DR
no but the boss has it
barren hollow
Oh that's true. Damn why does math have to be so hard
dull heart
anyway from what i calculated! it's still worse than amalgam on Revengance at least
barren hollow
anyway from what i calculated! it's still worse than amalgam on Revengance at le...
Yeah even if you take 127,000 and somehow ignore the damage reduction it's a 90 second cooldown
Your dealing an additional 1500 dps a second but it's realistically lower.
dull heart
yeah
barren hollow
no attack does 300 in classic
Playing ieor and almost everything does 300 damage. It's kinda miserable at points if there's a long desperation phase.
With defense stacking
And damage resistance
dull heart
yippee
ieor is gonna be in a weird situation once 2.1 releases
since we're rebalancing boss dmg and player defense values
frail owl
what is ieor?
barren hollow
ieor is gonna be in a weird situation once 2.1 releases
Well also it's balanced around infurnum which isn't updating to 2.1 so it doesn't actually matter. The devs did say they had a half baked plan so I'm curious to see what happens
barren hollow
what is ieor?
Infernal eclipse of Ragnarok. It's a heavy content modpack that makes secret of the shadows thorium cal and consolaria place nicely together
desert garnet
what is ieor?
infernal eclipse of ragnarock
frail owl
ah
blazing field
what is ieor?
Iwrath E Of Rgods
frail owl
also greetings, dear brother
desert garnet
also greetings, dear brother
greetings
frail owl
Iwrath E Of Rgods
barren hollow
Iwrath E Of Rgods
Well it doesn't make that play nicely so I won't include that
frail owl
greetings <:wires:1126556862070915214>
dull heart
Well also it's balanced around infurnum which isn't updating to 2.1 so it doesn'...
infernum is updating to 2.1
barren hollow
infernum is updating to 2.1
Is it? I thought they didn't want to re-tier ravager
dull heart
2.1 isn't re-tiering ravager
twin bloom
Some king of brainstorm
orchid finch
I thought 2.1 would cause a brainstorm in everyone's mind thus leading to every Calamity player becoming smart
barren hollow
Oh, I thought you were doing that this update along with tweaks to dog to make it suck less
frail owl
I thought 2.1 would cause a brainstorm in everyone's mind thus leading to every ...
that sounds too idealistic
dull heart
ravager is getting adjusted, not retiered
blazing field
Ravager retier is just when the actual rework comes
with the new design and all that
barren hollow
since we're rebalancing boss dmg and player defense values
Oh then about the reworks sots already breaks everything so it probably won't feel that off the devs also seem decent about changing things to make it work (as well as it can at least) so either they will force it back to how it worked before or will adjust things to make it work
But as far as I'm aware they aren't all that worried they do have a plan
twin bloom
hi there tarr guy
Helloo
frail owl
lapis oak
spoiler: evolution dodge effect got more than a 100x buff
This item needs everything it can get
💔
limber wren
Hey! So, I was thinking something... It's kind of a reach, but hear me out. Now that the Giant Clam will take Amidias' soul for us to fight the King Clam, would it be a good idea to have an Amidias Voodoo Doll? To actually be able to refight the boss.
queen umbra
so we playing monster hunter now huh?
dull heart
Hey! So, I was thinking something... It's kind of a reach, but hear me out. Now ...
There is a different way to refight giant clam
limber wren
Nice, just didn't know if there would be a way to refight, thx!
queen umbra
wait so with the alcohol update will alcohol sickness still be a thing?
like the 3 alcohol debuff thing I forgor what it's called
blazing field
Hey! So, I was thinking something... It's kind of a reach, but hear me out. Now ...
amidias can't stop suffering
🥹
limber wren
like the 3 alcohol debuff thing I forgor what it's called
Beeing drunk
limber wren
amidias can't stop suffering
Nah, he must suffer
queen umbra
you right
azure oak
last changelogs were last year plsease fix devs
limber wren
HAHAHAHAHA
modern grove
amidias can't stop suffering
Deserved
azure oak
new emote apparently, i like
twin bloom
high scaffold
But theres a catch, theres no more changelogs
valid crypt
thats intersting
Whar
modern grove
Calamity update memo
twin bloom
azure oak
most recent emotes have all been bangers, please continue
fathom girder
Its the twins
It's the twins how did I not realize that until now it's the fuckinf twins oh my go it's the TWINS-
high scaffold
I thought a bit about it, what if mechs were summoned trough decoder?
And maybe, just maybe, with that regular mech summons would be consumable
wise bolt
dusk bronze
modern grove
They should add a worm critter that can be caught with a bug net and used as a pickaxe
modern grove
Actually you're right
It would be infinitely more fitting if it acted like a drill instead
Not a pickaxe
You're genius, I'm gonna add this idea to firmament tide mod
modern grove
modern grove
What body part is this
molten grove
its a cutworm but the head is a knife
i had a pet cutworm
it was my longest living pet
until i was taking it out for a walk and a wasp landed on me and i freaked out while the worm was in my hand and i lost them
amber furnace
that sucks wasps are garbage
deft lily
i had a pet cutworm
it was my longest living pet
until i was taking it out for a...
very sad 🥀
fathom girder
hold gentle like hamburger
molten grove
🫸 
🫷
wise bolt
It would be infinitely more fitting if it acted like a drill instead
worm drill but instead of having a drill head its just the worm rapidly chewing away material
cunning sequoia
wise bolt
that sucks wasps are garbage
they're important pest control you know
amber furnace
no I did not I thought they were just invasive species that made bees suffer
cunning sequoia
wasps are like spiders if spiders were dickheads
queen umbra
wasps are like spiders if spiders were dickheads
fierce nebula
grr
twin bloom
amber furnace
grr
wise bolt
no I did not I thought they were just invasive species that made bees suffer
where the hell did you get invasive 😭
wasps are also pollinators
icy stump
It depends on the wasp species
wise bolt
it does depend yeah
but in most cases wasps control pests and also pollinate. not as well as bees, but they do pollinate
theres also like a bunch of other bug species that'll eat bees 🥲
modern grove
no I did not I thought they were just invasive species that made bees suffer
Funny how it's honeybees who are invasive in different parts of the world
wise bolt
^
polar tide
no I did not I thought they were just invasive species that made bees suffer
...all of them? every single species of wasp on earth? invasive?
wise bolt
-# also most pollination is done by native and/or solitary bees 😭 honeybees are Not what you need to be worried about
molten grove
hey paper wasps are chill
we learned how to make paper from them
while all we learned from bees is that their goo tastes good
modern grove
I already donated 1 billion endangered enraged parasitic cuckoo wasps to fables HQ, I need to do something similar for calamity as well
cunning sequoia
send mites
modern grove
I will donate 10 thousand roaming loaches and 1 of them is rotten but I'm not telling which one
lapis oak
that compressed gif makes those creatues look more scary ngl
cunning sequoia
that looks like rain world in which case they're already disgusting and vile and i hate them
rain world creature design is so good but i hate it
twin bloom
This pie is so good i could die!
summer shore
Devs should steal rain world designs for aureus just so garbo becomes conflicted
cunning sequoia
😨
i mean like i only mind rain world creatures cause they look like weird freaky bugs and shit
a robot wouldnt have that problem probably
hushed hazel
bugreus
dusk bronze
i tried playing rain world
the controls make me sad
wise bolt
control settings:
wise bolt
rain world creature design is so good but i hate it
tardigrade..
orchid finch
Peg halved:
25% chance to double a random peg
twin bloom
Epic fail
mystic eagle
https://tenor.com/view/isopod-gif-27167797
Where is it? I want to visit it aswell
wise bolt
Where is it? I want to visit it aswell
orchid finch
is it done tho
lapis oak
idk that's why I asked
orchid finch
guys can you throw words at me that are related to wind and air and what have you
summer shore
Google wind synonym
dusk bronze
guys can you throw words at me that are related to wind and air and what have yo...
gust
tempest
gale
turbulence
blow
orchid finch
no I won't
summer shore
it's blover
orchid finch
wise bolt
crispy mention
lapis oak
Blover the hit plant from the hit game Plants vs. Zombies????
kindred night
guys can you throw words at me that are related to wind and air and what have yo...
Wind
orchid finch
dumbass it is literally one of the words I listed
kindred night
:(
lapis oak
air
orchid finch
used
twin bloom
Crazy
twin bloom
lapis oak
I'm not putting the Evolution in the chart
it's really just a damage buff not interesting enough
orchid finch
high scaffold
Is localisation coming in BS or later?
tribal isle
they're adding that?
high scaffold
Yes
wooden blade
r u sur
orchid finch
why are you asking me, I'm the one who asked the question
vocal kelp
Is localisation coming in BS or later?
They're doing what
vocal kelp
That's crazy
slate folio
guys can you throw words at me that are related to wind and air and what have yo...
zephyr
tribal isle
Are all tiers of the arsenal gonna be in sso
orchid finch
I mean probably, by the time it comes out they'd probably finish the arsenal
vocal kelp
That's crazy
This is actually bad for us we can no longer claim fables is (probably( the most popular mod with built in Spanish because it will for sure not be
orchid finch
who said "built-in"
vocal kelp
Not that we ever made this claim to anyone
vocal kelp
who said "built-in"
? What's the point of having a team doing the loc if you're going to throw them in an addon or something
orchid finch
don't ask me, ask the devs
the devs say they'd like to push updates and not wait for localizers
vocal kelp
You can still kinda do that
Like either way the localization wouldn't exist right away so like just release and if it's done great if it's not do a patch later or something
orchid finch
okay the localization is done
vocal kelp
Or like just wait on it until whatever next patch
orchid finch
now let's talk patches post-loc creation
new items, changes to the previous items
and what do you have? outdated translation
orchid finch
yeah and what if say your Spanish team doesn't answer you in months
vocal kelp
This doesn't stop happening if the thing is like an addon
vocal kelp
yeah and what if say your Spanish team doesn't answer you in months
The spanish loc in the addon is also outdated for months
Is the addon not going to be like officialized
Because frankly that's the only distinction we can see where this concern doesn't extend to having it be an addon instead of built in
orchid finch
well we have no information on that
they seem to be officially supported so that's a thumbs up
like sure it would be nice to have a localization inside the mod
but I still look at the untranslated line in the Book of Shaders and cry every night because no one got to it
icy stump
Who was working in the Spanish localization addon?
orchid finch
I mean go find the most popular Spanish addon and you'll see
I'm bringing Spanish up because Fargo's Souls has a Spanish localization that hasn't been touched in ages
strong isle
This is actually bad for us we can no longer claim fables is (probably( the most...
There isn't a spanish localization team for Cal just yet, though I know someone who was in talks to become a translator
Currently there's Russian, Chinese and Brazilian Portuguese
twin bloom
icy stump
There isn't a spanish localization team for Cal just yet, though I know someone ...
It's something
strong isle
Totaling about 16 localization aides
orchid finch
Send it through chatgpt
breaking news: a group of mod developers burnt a village by using ChatGPT to translate their mod
fathom girder
Fabsol approved
strong isle
Send it through chatgpt
mystic eagle
Totaling about 16 localization aides
I could be a Dutch translator, if that was necessary though considering most Dutch people can speak English
cunning sequoia
https://tenor.com/view/gangle-tadc-the-amazing-digital-circus-gun-guns-gif-17584...
me when i fucking GET YOU
gray trench
cunning sequoia
boreal edge
Zero thoughts at all
strong isle
I regularly help with the Brazilian Portuguese localization, especially lore stuff
It's really fun
And I sometimes get to translate my own work, which is great
fathom girder
Makes me regret not fully learning spanish
strong isle
Maybe because they're still polishing it
mystic eagle
mfw polish translation hasnt been updated in 3 years
The Dutch translation doesn't even exist.
cunning sequoia
Maybe because they're still polishing it
icy stump
If the Spanish translator needs help in the future, I can help
fathom girder
We need the Spaniards here NOW
orchid finch
https://tenor.com/view/simpleflips-simpleflips-spray-windex-clean-simpleflips-di...
the fire emojis make me think of this gif
cunning sequoia
garfie
fathom girder
Garpe nooo
summer shore
And they say garfield never bled
strong isle
Spaniard is such a peak name ngl
orchid finch
no one expected it to be this hard
much like
no one expected the spanish inquisition
strong isle
dusk bronze
do not the scug
dull heart
where the hell did you get invasive 😭
They kept invading my room last year
Like multiple a week
dull heart
it's really just a damage buff not interesting enough
it actually no longer reflects
instead of reflecting it fires 10 homing mirror shards that do 50x dmg (x2 on expert/ x3 on master)
but effectively it's the same except it actually hits and actually does a noticable amount of damage
hasty hawk
funny how everyone is asking for Spanish loc in main Cal (instead of addon) and both of the Spanish speakers left the team
dull heart
I was about to try and type Spanish with the most gringo accent possible and realized that doesn't work over text
day ruined
dull heart
yeah but what I wanted to say was llamas pronounced like a llama
which does not work
at least not without more effort than it's worth
dusk bronze
tore-till-uh
hasty hawk
yeah but what I wanted to say was llamas pronounced like a llama
would be pronounced “yama”
orchid finch
pollo
halcyon seal
“wack-a-mole-eh”
Oh cmon I can do much worse than that
dull heart
would be pronounced “yama”
yeah I know
halcyon seal
Goo uh se moh lee
hasty hawk
Oh cmon I can do much worse than that
yea we can do
dull heart
We should instead talk about the fragrant flower blooms with dignity
amber furnace
@hasty hawk how did you get these roles (like defiled, untouchable, dead inside)?
hasty hawk
<@613133259563466755> how did you get these roles (like defiled, untouchable, de...
nohitting back when it used to give roles
orchid finch
they've been depricated for quite some time now
amber furnace
ah ok
orchid finch
has it been almost 5 years now?
hasty hawk
less iirc
hasty tangle
it was march of 2022 when the roles were deprecated
dusk bronze
so almost 4 years
hasty tangle
orchid finch
time flies by nonetheless
I remember how I nohitted SCal and got so nervous that my dad recorded me lmao 😭
I was legit shaking and sobbing
dull heart
there should be a role for nohitting malice dog in 2.1
orchid finch
oh no...
dusk bronze
pulsar cobalt
there should be a role for nohitting malice dog in 2.1
true
hasty hawk
there should be a role for nohitting malice dog in 2.1
cant be as bad as defiled death tbh
vocal kelp
There isn't a spanish localization team for Cal just yet, though I know someone ...
, Hey
dull heart
dizzy beat defiled malice dog
amber furnace
why were these difficulties removed tho
dull heart
They sucked
dusk bronze
you can just self impose them
hasty tangle
They sucked
shroomed is still around
orchid finch
okay fine mister, you've made me interested
maybe this'll be my grand return to nohitting
dull heart
Shroomed isn't a difficulty it's an item
vocal kelp
Anyways our whole point was that if the team dies it doesn't really matter if its in or out of the mod cuz they die anyways, tmodes for example is completely dead so that's a bunch of mods that don't have translations anymore since the mod won't even load. In mod translations at least have something exist even if it's outdated
fierce nebula
why were these difficulties removed tho
Because they were too good and the calamity devs hate fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I use 200 qol mods btw
vocal kelp
why were these difficulties removed tho
We have to kill everyone who plays high difficulties
amber furnace
Because they were too good and the calamity devs hate fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
🔥
dull heart
We have to kill everyone who plays high difficulties
Sorry not my fault that the most fun version of dog in 2.1 is also the hardest
-# ignore the fact that it literally is my fault
fierce nebula
We have to kill everyone who plays high difficulties
Why
vocal kelp
We won't be the judge of that frankly wdk if we want to play calamity again at 15 fps frankly we'll probably do it but aughhhhhhhhhhhhghhhh
halcyon seal
We have to kill everyone who plays high difficulties
We have to kill everyone who plays
vocal kelp
TRUE!
dusk bronze
dull heart
Then I get to live
pulsar cobalt
we have to kill everyone
halcyon seal
we have to kill everyone
i-..what…?
mystic eagle
we have to kill everyone
Why not go the remaining mile and kill the rest
dull heart
that's less fun
high scaffold
I thought a bit about this, should mech summons be locked behind decoder?
pulsar cobalt
no
orchid finch
that's well enough to enforce players to build it tbh
pulsar cobalt
also a great way for every channel ever to be flooded with "why cant i make mech summons"
high scaffold
I would like an option to directly summon mechs trough decoder tbh
dull heart
doesn't really make sense
codebreaker can break encryption not summon stuff
It requires a much later part to be able to communicate with draedon
high scaffold
But then how a piece of metal and some souls can summon them?
distant raft
not canon iirc
summer shore
They're souls of dead gods
The mechs are built to hunt gods
Therefore they will come after the souls of dead gods
It's shrimple
high scaffold
Thats an interesting piece of lore I learned
distant raft
i thought prime was meant to just terrorise not actually kill gods
high scaffold
Me too
summer shore
Well not much point terrorizing if they're still alive lol
Just kill em and be done no need to hold back
Well most gods probably dunk on the mechs ngl
Assuming the slimus goddus gets retiered then the weakest god is plant tier so they're totally fucked
pulsar cobalt
they just destroyed anything that had divine essence
it wasnt just gods they were trying to kill
upper plover
I assume god worshippers were also under the ol' eradication table as well
pulsar cobalt
stuff like providence's cultists would also be on their high priority list
dusk bronze
Assuming the slimus goddus gets retiered then the weakest god is plant tier so t...
the weakest god that survived the crusade
summer shore
stuff like providence's cultists would also be on their high priority list
Fairfair
tribal isle
type shit
modern grove
Kill 7 billion calamity items
thorny glacier
roblox
tribal isle
kill all draedon items from schematics
amber furnace
we have to kill everyone
I-I can't deal with this right now... I'm sorry...
tribal isle
type shit
amber furnace
evil wires
frail owl
hi there minos
fierce nebula
heed to the intrusive voices that permeate within your mind
✅
thorny glacier
changelogs tomorrow
frail owl
evil wires
hot pebble
Hi everyone, Benji the sharkman is here
frail owl
who the fuck are you, runt?
dull hemlock
is there a date on brainstorm
amber furnace
is there a date on brainstorm
january
thorny glacier
january february
frail owl
brainstorm for 50$
hasty hawk
is there a date on brainstorm
no you aint dating anyone in Calamity mod
dull hemlock
brainstorm doesn’t change any world gen stuff does it?
hasty hawk
brainstorm doesn’t change any world gen stuff does it?
it does
dull hemlock
no you aint dating anyone in Calamity mod
😭
hot pebble
februaruary
gray trench
nohitting back when it used to give roles
Oh defiled is a nohit role?
hasty hawk
yes
frail owl
no it just changes the efficacy in your motor function
dull hemlock
if i’m at old duke on a playthru does that mess anything up with my current run
hasty hawk
worldgen chages are labs and maaaayyyybeeee Rox Shrine
dull hemlock
okay sick
dusk bronze
worldgen chages are labs and maaaayyyybeeee Rox Shrine
aether marker
hasty hawk
aether marker
and that
hasty hawk
Neat
Congratulations 👏
ty
gray trench
I find defiled more fun than with wings
dull hemlock
what’s an aether marker ✌️