calamity-update-talk

[high scaffold]

Multiblock fluid shaper with shit ton parralels

[dull heart]

correct

[valid bronze]

WTH.. i have fought Providence yesterday and the attack pattern got changed 🔥🔥🔥 so cool and i am really thankful for the update

[dusk bronze]

it didn't change

[high scaffold]

Shhhh

It did change

BS released yesterday

[dull heart]

watch them now be at night

[lyric trellis]

My favorite part of 2.1, the Providence AI changes

[dusk bronze]

or the other biome

[high scaffold]

Isnt night time prov getting removed

[dull heart]

true

[dull heart]

sort of

it's still a thing just not tied to time

[high scaffold]

And replaced with empowered version

I should type faster

[cobalt wharf]

fuck dust spam we have bloom circle spam now

[blazing field]

funny limbus reference weapon

[tropic jolt]

is that the brainstorm

[hasty tangle]

idk why i made this

[blazing field]

thanks

[tropic jolt]

😹

[dull heart]

@lapis oak wake up

[high scaffold]

Wait a minute

Icons

CALAMITY WILL HAVE ICONS IN ITS ITEM DESCRIPTIONS?!?!

[pulsar cobalt]

yes we have known this for a long time

[dusk bronze]

@vivid hemlock update my document

[pulsar cobalt]

speaking of

vanillin

[vivid hemlock]

im in SCHOOL.

[high scaffold]

I hope it also has description on what a debuff does

[pulsar cobalt]

is the description stuff detailed in the doc

oh ok uhhhh who else is an editor

[vivid hemlock]

cheese

crispy

[dusk bronze]

it will if you hold shift iirc

[pulsar cobalt]

@blazing field hey chee

[high scaffold]

Frfr?

If yes, goog

[pulsar cobalt]

you should read the tooltip again

[dusk bronze]

that reminds me, i haven't seen fryzahh in forever

[blazing field]

me hi

[pulsar cobalt]

editor. do your job.

[blazing field]

whats my job

[high scaffold]

I dont have the best eyesight

[pulsar cobalt]

edit the doc

[blazing field]

ok im gonna go stream

[dusk bronze]

update future doc

[vivid hemlock]

😭

[pulsar cobalt]

GRAAAHHHH

[pulsar cobalt]

STRANGLES YOU

[blazing field]

you told me to do my job what do you expect thats like the closest i have

[high scaffold]

Goog

[blazing field]

atleast be descriptive smh

[polar tide]

:)

[dusk bronze]

vanillin said you a future doc editor

[high scaffold]

Cold - 200 DPS

[fathom girder]

oh shit, first look at a custom whip

that's gonna be fun

[dusk bronze]

ancient spoiler

[kindred night]

sounds like my name

[fathom girder]

idc if it's old it's COOL

[high scaffold]

And a tag icon under dummy

[kindred night]

Sir

is this perhaps a reference to the limbus company abnormality named ardor blossom moth

?

[dull heart]

i think so idk

i didn't make it

[blazing field]

yes

the guy who made it is a retired dev but hes a huge pm nerd

@hasty hawk

[kindred night]

this is peam

[fathom girder]

shoutout to the worm shitting itself at the end of the video

[dull heart]

uhm actually

[blazing field]

Burrower

[high scaffold]

5 fps yay, thanks discord

[deft lily]

six seven

[blazing field]

is the pet the same sprite as the creature but with less segments because thats kind of hilarious

is that a placeholder or actually what its gonna be

[dull heart]

actually what it's gonna be

[pulsar cobalt]

yes

[blazing field]

Wait the pet has actual functionality???

It like

spelunker

that

[pulsar cobalt]

yea

[blazing field]

Ok i dunno

how i feel about that

[dull heart]

it is literally almost the same exact ai as burrower but slightly changed

[blazing field]

Pets being anything but cosmetic is kinda weird

[pulsar cobalt]

its counted as a light pet

[dull heart]

its a light pet

[blazing field]

Oh

Nvm then

[pulsar cobalt]

_ _

light pets...

[blazing field]

Thats fine yea

[dull heart]

instead of glowing it does that

[blazing field]

tsuki those are a separate thing you know what i meant

[deft lily]

Light pets because they use discord light mode...

👀

[dusk bronze]

@lapis oak

kirilight mode

[deft lily]

does kiri use light mode...

[dull heart]

yes

[blazing field]

i mean

[deft lily]

bruh

[blazing field]

kiriWHITE

its fitting enough

[deft lily]

yeah

Ig

[wise bolt]

kiribright

[high scaffold]

KiriRGB

[deft lily]

tofu hi tofu hi

hi

[high scaffold]

They are adding brains in brainstorm

[hot pebble]

Ooooh! This is good!

[dull heart]

theres a video of it too

[upper plover]

what does the bar correspond to?

[hot pebble]

Im happy to see debuff in description

[dull heart]

the accuracy (as shown in video)

[high scaffold]

BS will be so good and not bs

[hot pebble]

doze, check this out

[upper plover]

I assume the alt fire has higher single-target dps?

[vestal osprey]

The main take away from this is weapon descriptions will just tell you the debuffs and what they do now

[dull heart]

yes

[dusk bronze]

we have known this for months

[vestal osprey]

well i didnt

even after reading the whole upcoming plans doc I missed things 😢

[teal bone]

How dare you not know

[upper plover]

cool beans

[dull heart]

the alt fire is like 3x the single target dps on halley right now

but i need to do more balancing

[upper plover]

zamn
an actually sizable increase at that

[dull heart]

a dummy gives me 3k with lclick and 9k with rclick

[upper plover]

reminds me of how Apotheosis gets over 100k dps on a dummy with no stat boosts, but in boss rush it's just utter ass because the iframes are fucked

is that fixed in BS by any chance?

[dull heart]

idk

[dusk bronze]

apotheosis should use the heart sprite

it would be really funny

[upper plover]

hire this individual

your screen WILL be obscured, and you WILL enjoy it

[pseudo vector]

apotheosis is functional yeah, i don’t remember the dps tho

[fathom girder]

it exists

it's not terrible

you have better options

[mystic eagle]

It's bad

[vivid hemlock]

wow thats just horrible

[pulsar cobalt]

iirc every other weapon does it like

10 minutes or so faster or watever

[gray trench]

Earth users call this a "speed run"

[pulsar cobalt]

wait silvaheart can you look up how much red devil solo no buff removal took

[shy estuary]

How many new features in this update?

[halcyon seal]

3000-ish

[shy estuary]

Rlly? 3k is crazy

[mystic eagle]

Not tested

[pseudo vector]

3k changes, a lot of them are small but there’s a ton of weapon reworks, some boss touch ups and some bigger boss reworks / refreshes

[high scaffold]

Small things make a big picture

Small quality features make the game overall nicer

[modern grove]

Chester

[high scaffold]

Piggy bank

On legs

[modern grove]

Yeah

[high scaffold]

I love magic lantern

[modern grove]

It's very hype moments and aura I agree

[blazing field]

i don't like it sorry 😢

I think adding actual functionality to chester who's just a pet was kind of an game design L and if that's the acse it should've just been a separate thing just like piggy bank isn't a pet

The one you get from blood moon i mean

It means chester's just objectively better than every other pet and players who might like other pets better can sometimes end up just using chester anyways because of that

[high scaffold]

I would see a reason to complain if chester was a separate inventory

[dusk bronze]

it's like adding functionality to minecraft armor trims

[blazing field]

yeah

[dull heart]

chester is mostly fine bc it's not unique

[dusk bronze]

then you would just use the most optimal color, not the one you actually want to

[dull heart]

money trough gives the same effect

[high scaffold]

True

[dull heart]

so using another pet doesn't cripple you

[spark kiln]

fuck chester

screws you over if you try to use a secondary fire weapon with smart cursor on

[dull heart]

so does 1000 other things

[high scaffold]

Burrower

[desert garnet]

turn off smart cursor

[spark kiln]

still annoying

[desert garnet]

skill issue

[high scaffold]

Armored digger rework someday

[lean relic]

It's me, approved

[high scaffold]

Difficulty rework finaly

[dull heart]

soon

[blazing field]

armored digger rework theoretically tommorow

[dull heart]

theoretically no

[dusk bronze]

armor digger rework allegedly for $50

[vivid hemlock]

50 dollars to fund the calamity

[hasty hawk]

Brainstorm January-February!

[dull heart]

BS Today-$50!

[wide wadi]

Really

[dull heart]

yes really

[wide wadi]

Too bad I’m broke

[dull heart]

L

No void eater marionette for you

[hasty tangle]

https://youtu.be/upxzaVMhw8k?t=23

(timestamped)

[dull heart]

i don't even need to click that to hear the timestamp

some things you never forget

[thorny glacier]

🔥

[blazing field]

Armored digger rework theoretically tommorow for every day of the months of januray and february until it's eventually true

[vivid hemlock]

cheese did they make you update the doc or do i have to spam ping tsucchini later about it

[dusk bronze]

it's not there 😢

[pulsar cobalt]

why do you have to spam ping me

[vivid hemlock]

it depends

[blazing field]

I updated it with what ia ssumed they wanted me to update it with

Nobody told me what i was supposed to update so i had to guess

[vivid hemlock]

i c

[modern grove]

I think it's fine because chesters ability is not unique and you can do the same by just carrying a piggy bank or money trough with you. Chester only removes like 1 step from those and acts as a little convenience but it's nothing game changing

[blazing field]

fair point tbf but i still feel like its kinda weird. but in the case of the shown armored digger it'd definitely be a big deal if it was a pet

but it's a light pet which already have funcitonality so its ok

[pulsar cobalt]

sus looking tentacle also has functionality i think its fine

and so does wisp kinda technically

(lets u move it thru walls)

[blazing field]

yeah all light pets do

thats their whole thing, they provide light

which is why as i said i think it's fine

[pulsar cobalt]

no i mean it highlights stuff nearby

[blazing field]

yeah i know

[pulsar cobalt]

kinda like a mini spelunker

no i mean aside from the light

[blazing field]

yeah

i know

[pulsar cobalt]

yea thats unique

[rancid pagoda]

magic lantern

[blazing field]

tsuki what are you even trying to say

😭

[dull heart]

they specifically thought it was a pet pet not a light pet

in which case i'd agree the highlighting isn't a good idea

[blazing field]

^

pets =/ light pets, they have separate equip slots

[dull heart]

and they stack with each other

burrower being a light pet is a nerf bc now you can't have cute robo worm while you have a light pet

nerfing the pet meta

[blazing field]

truly tragic

[cunning sequoia]

wrong! destroyer pet

[dull heart]

meh

fake propaganda

[cunning sequoia]

[high scaffold]

Somebodys changin the doc rn

[dull heart]

gasp

[high scaffold]

Totaly not Vanillin

Changed the Boss UI and updated Debuffs sections

[dull heart]

still missing burrower beacon

[high scaffold]

Is sand sack in BS

Cuz Id realy want to play with it

Dafuq did I just say

[dull heart]

no

it's not

[dull heart]

and saros video link

[high scaffold]

I want the sacks in calamity already

[halcyon seal]

What is that again

[high scaffold]

Collects common ground blocks

Dirt stone sand etc

[halcyon seal]

Oh thats pretty cool

More useful than sand cloak

[high scaffold]

"it also will have functionality to convert said blocks into sand" doc says

[dull heart]

i can't believe the doc is missing BS making all calamity sands do special things in sandgun

[high scaffold]

Cant wait for youtubers to make totaly family friendly content when sand sack and potion sack will get into the game

[earnest comet]

christ

[high scaffold]

Reminder that they could have named them bags or bundles

Oh hey, they added the burrower into the doc

And now they are over saros possession

Wonder what it could mean

[raw vector]

Can someone tldr fill me in on whats new, I havent played since 2023 and was wondering if there was enough new stuff to start up a new playthrough

[high scaffold]

Wait for like 1 more month and will be completely thrown away

[dull heart]

there will be an update within the next 2 months

with more changes than any update in cal history

[dull heart]

depending on when 2023 this was the answer might be "nearly nothing new"

[raw vector]

seems like I've poked my head back in at a good time lol

[grave geyser]

3 new reworks and like 6 removed weapons for a net -3 weapons since you last played

[high scaffold]

About, hmmm, 150 or so reworks in next updates

[dull heart]

most everything publicly known in terms of items

[high scaffold]

Maybe something like closer to 200

Also 4 bosses are getting changes

One of them is DoG rework

And a number of improvements

[dull heart]

what 4 bosses are you thinking of

[high scaffold]

Brain, 2 cals and dawg

[halcyon seal]

Provi’s getting visual changes too right

And I think SG is as well

[dull heart]

missing a good handful there yes

not sg

[high scaffold]

Oh, old duke

[dull heart]

ravager, cultist are both publicly known too

[halcyon seal]

Cultist?

Also every vanilla boss except for ml, off of technicality

[dull heart]

not a full on rework like BoC but significant enough changes to change the entire way the fight plays

[raw vector]

so they've been tidying up/reworking what exists moreso than adding new bosses post scal?

[dull heart]

that's going to continue for the next few years too

[raw vector]

thats good i remember there being some funny business in my last playthrough

[high scaffold]

Also fabsol is gone

[dull heart]

every time i see Fluffy is typing... it throws me off for a second

[grave geyser]

hi

[dull heart]

until i remember crit performed identity theft

[grave geyser]

no no

this is identiy borrowing

[dull heart]

performed identity transplant

[raw vector]

does yharon still look like a chicken nugget?

[dull heart]

yes

[raw vector]

damn

[high scaffold]

Thats the reason we are getting an update, fabsol is no longer a part of calamity team

[grave geyser]

well no

[high scaffold]

There is a yharon resprite being worked on

[amber egret]

got it: play melee for my first run through

[dull heart]

that's why we got 2.0.5*

[grave geyser]

if anything fabsol being removed delayed 2.1

[dull heart]

you fell into the trap

i love stratus for being so anti-monoclass it's so peak

[grave geyser]

can we just remove ark line and murasama

[amber egret]

almost all of the "post-x" where x is a boss has a melee option

[blazing field]

There'll only be one new boss post scal, atleast in terms of what's guaranteed
No other bosses will be added beyond that with the exception of maybe two superbosses post-yharim (The final boss that's post scal/exos)

[dull heart]

most also have a ranged or magic weapon too

[amber egret]

its either a melee option and accessory or melee option and one other weapon

[blazing field]

Btw what's up with stratus sphere

Is that like classless weapon

[dull heart]

yes

[amber egret]

mainly looking here

or shadowspec tier

[dull heart]

stratus sphere

[vocal kelp]

Kill all melee weapons

[high scaffold]

Totaly not a melee glaze

[amber egret]

melees the best class in base terraria

i like mage but mage just keeps fumbling

[dull heart]

best rework tier ? ? ?

[vivid hemlock]

true?

[dull heart]

contender for best rework tier??

doze is biased??

[high scaffold]

I like my arsenal and elemental weapons

[amber egret]

yea but anything stratus needs me to multiclass and blehhhhhh i dont like multiclassing

blehhhhhhhhh i dont like uberoptimizing with multiple classes

actually is there even a multiclass armor at that tier

[dull heart]

stratus doesn't need you to uberoptimize

[amber egret]

it feels like it blehhhh

[dull heart]

omega blue is a good option

[amber egret]

i know that armor for its adrenaline and thats it

[lavish otter]

It's pretty funny seeing Mirror Blade's resprite and Ontological Despoiler next to each other

[dull heart]

it's literally a case of "fire stratus sphere, summon sirius, use main weapon of choice" at it's simplest

[blazing field]

cool vfx

what it do ?

[grave geyser]

stratus works specifically because it doesnt require multiclass

if it forced it I would be calling the rework shit right about now

[dusk bronze]

tooltip is somewhere

[amber egret]

blehhhhhhhhhh thats doing too much

[amber egret]

yucky you.

[vivid hemlock]

smth smth the resprite is in a crusty ass video please someone save it

[dull heart]

yeah

[amber egret]

ill prob combo the sphere with the stratus weapon of class

[dull heart]

it benefits from it but doesn't require it at all

[lavish otter]

...oh Orioooooooo-

[amber egret]

but like. not sirius

[blazing field]

Cool, so a weapon focused on giving you more survivability basically

[dull heart]

why not sirius

[high scaffold]

Yummers

[dull heart]

sirius is literally free to use

[amber egret]

i dont like summon + weapon

doesnt sit with me

sits over by the other table

[raw vector]

ty for answers I look forward to this new update hopefully soon :)

[dull heart]

sirius + stratus sphere rclick is yummy

[lavish otter]

Why not- isn't that what summons were for originally?

[amber egret]

i could in theory do that for like
every boss
but that just feels like more damage than i care about

[high scaffold]

Should we bless the hibernation person with Yharon resprite

[blazing field]

fabled cheesej journey mode palythrough

soon

when the update comes out

[dull heart]

it does both

[amber egret]

like yea i can brittle star + thing to add more defense!!! but why do i care

[dull heart]

right click allows you to barrier it up, but left click provides starbursts to fuel your weapons with

[lavish otter]

Because it adds more defense

[dull heart]

sirius actually effects the usage of the main weapon though

[amber egret]

but it does summon damage no

[dull heart]

clearly i should make all stratus items deal Stratus class damage

[blazing field]

yeah this does classless

[amber egret]

have em do classless damage To Be Honest

[dull heart]

it does but it's literally just a label

[amber egret]

i mean alternatively i just
dont use the weapons .

[grave geyser]

classless damage is boring for this

[dull heart]

anyway yeah

stratus isn't for everyone

i think pretty much everyone will have an item they like from dog drops though

[amber egret]

i will use deaths ascension right click for my DoG obliterating :)

[dull heart]

OH NOW THAT LASER WALLS HAVE BEEN SHOWN

[lavish otter]

YEAH?

[dull heart]

use the left click too, trust me

[amber egret]

whats galaxy smasher getting reworked i thought it was already good

[dusk bronze]

THREAD OF ERADICATION?

[grave geyser]

~~sorry if none of the options are braindead homing I hate them all ~~

[dull heart]

i will show dimension tearing disk tomorrow

[pseudo vector]

thread of eradication was already shown i think

[high scaffold]

It was

[dull heart]

that's literally Clamor Noctus and Crescent Moon and Sirius though

[grave geyser]

yeah but none of those are post dog smh

[pseudo vector]

i showed it with doze's permission cuz i was bullying calamitas npc with it cuz of a bug that is now gone lol

[dusk bronze]

i only remember hyperdeath rift scepter sryyy

[amber egret]

same

[lavish otter]

Ooohhh, that's what that was?

[high scaffold]

Wait, shit my memory keeps jumbling up the words and meaning

[amber egret]

you gotta stop posting them just in here as a "hey guys heres a thingyamob"

[dull heart]

oh ok then you'll have Void Eater Marionette and The Obliterator or Dimension-Tearing Disk

[dull heart]

never

[high scaffold]

There wasnt a thread of eradication

[dusk bronze]

thread of eradication is deathwind

[dull heart]

i think that's from pateron

patreon

[blazing field]

counterargument:

funny

[vivid hemlock]

its not a rework its basically just new vfx with an extra thing

[lavish otter]

You're showing all of them off tomorrow? Sick

[dull heart]

no

[grave geyser]

cool awesome (I was joking btw I dont particularly care either way)

[dull heart]

(yeah i know)

i'll show off dimension tearing disk stealth later i think

[dusk bronze]

no maw of infinity

[pseudo vector]

this only really shows the fully charged fire of the thread of eradication lol

[dull heart]

maw of infinity has so much aura

[lavish otter]

[amber egret]

hmmm.

[deft lily]

hello calamity update talk

[amber egret]

doesnt seem too incredible .

[lavish otter]

Ohhh, the other video

[amber egret]

like designwise it seems cool but gameplay wise

hmmmmm.

[lavish otter]

Kinda forgot about that one somehow

[amber egret]

from: dozezoze has:video is an incredible search query in discod

[dull heart]

you're seeing it on a static target without one entire half of the functionality

thread of eradication is very fun for yharon

[misty wren]

and also even gameplay wise like

its just a slow hard hitting weapon there 😭

[pseudo vector]

here's hyperdeath rift scepter doing the same thing

[amber egret]

mana flower

[lavish otter]

Yeeaaah yeah, that's what I was thinking of

[amber egret]

what if i miss though

[dull heart]

then skill issue

[amber egret]

but then i die !

[misty wren]

you shoot again! these weapons already exist

[dull heart]

go use starmageddon then

[lavish otter]

And I was kind of confused for a second, because I was thinking "that doesn't look like a thread of anything"

[dull heart]

if you don't wanna miss

[misty wren]

also

[amber egret]

yea what if i miss those ones

[misty wren]

its hitscan

[amber egret]

!!!!!!

[pseudo vector]

thread of eradication both has a slower, heavier hitting big laser and quicker firing, smaller laser that it fires depending on how you want to use it

[misty wren]

like

[blazing field]

so mean to me .

[lavish otter]

Its hits can what?

[pseudo vector]

and yeah its hitscan so wherever you're aiming that thing in your line of fire is taking a lot of damage

[halcyon seal]

We’re killing calamitas because she is mean to us

[valid crypt]

Dev only used blue not ourple

[dusk bronze]

i can't believe you would kill cheese

[misty wren]

you click on the enemy and it hits them there isnt any travel time for the projectile and also its not even a straight line its in a fairly large cone

[pseudo vector]

i'd have to get a clip with the purple firing mode of ToE

[valid crypt]

Y r u kil the chedder

[cunning sequoia]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/900322827570397245/1367867525378871326/caption.gif

[lavish otter]

Y'know, I still wonder what this is even for

[dull heart]

stab cheese

[dusk bronze]

to stab cheese

duh

[lavish otter]

Y'know, fair

[cunning sequoia]

stabbing cheese

[halcyon seal]

Torture cheese for information

[dull heart]

in absence of video right now here is

tooltip

[amber egret]

what is God's Bane Doombeam Array

what is the GBDA

the gibda

[dusk bronze]

GOD'S BANE DOOMBEAM ARRAY 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[spark kiln]

make the marksman revolvers hitscan

[misty wren]

game boy doomsday advance

[proper tendon]

Is there any news on when the update is dropping?

[cunning sequoia]

Light That Burns The Sky-ass name

[amber egret]

five years

[spark kiln]

janurary or february

[cunning sequoia]

tomorrow

[dull heart]

true

[proper tendon]

Fucking finally

[proper tendon]

[dull heart]

all the dog stuff has such over the top names now

Dimensional Drive might be my favorite

[lavish otter]

Fittingly so, I approve

[dusk bronze]

it's so peak man

hyperdeath rift

[hasty tangle]

dog can drive?

[dull heart]

yes

[hasty tangle]

he is truly unstoppable now

[amber egret]

wrong, dimensions can

[grave geyser]

not quite

[lavish otter]

Though if anything, I feel like Dimensional Drive could be more over the top, if anything

[grave geyser]

he's not forklift certified yet

[deft lily]

DoG doin donuts across dimensions

[amber egret]

can someone put DoG in a car and have them run over Statis

[hasty tangle]

dog's expert item?

[dull heart]

no this is godslayer armor

[amber egret]

theres expert items for calamity

[dusk bronze]

there are now

[vivid hemlock]

calamity used to have them and now they will exist again

[amber egret]

theres difficulties lower than expert

[grave geyser]

neb core amassing all the god slayer set bonuses

[dull heart]

trueth

[dusk bronze]

they will not have those items

[amber egret]

theres like

[dull heart]

i can't wait for Dimensional Drive to be on neb core instead of GS armor

[amber egret]

unchallenging gameplay

in terraria?

[cunning sequoia]

dimension-tearing hyperspeed drive

[amber egret]

i thought terraria was only for piss-shitter difficulty

theres joy and whimsy to be had in the game????

[lavish otter]

In my Calamity?

[dull heart]

that's what we call "malice dog"

[lavish otter]

absurd

[amber egret]

in MY terraria?

blasphemy

[dull heart]

i was in vc with dizzy when they fought malice dog and their reactions were so funny

[amber egret]

i dont play secret seeds

[grave geyser]

ok

[cunning sequoia]

theres misery and tedium if you know where to look

[amber egret]

do you have exactly one second of it

[dull heart]

exactly the reactions i expected to it too

[amber egret]

okay i gotta ask: is malice DoG sightreadable or is it "oh right he does this at this point"

[amber egret]

oh yeah? where then smart guy

[lavish otter]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a trial and error muscle memory thing, like some of those Geometry Dash levels

[misty wren]

master death

[amber egret]

hm. you arent wrong.

i mean up until post ml

then its okay

because its just death

[dull heart]

he is sightreadable

[amber egret]

okay cool

[dull heart]

if you can sightread fast

[amber egret]

how fast

on estimate in seconds

[dull heart]

you don't have to memorize anything

[amber egret]

oh awesome

[dull heart]

"seconds" is generous

[amber egret]

decimal if required?

[dull heart]

i have no idea

[amber egret]

half a second or summin

[dull heart]

dizzy finished malice dog p2 on the second time getting to it though, including the desp phase (they're also pretty cracked though)

[amber egret]

hmmm

[dull heart]

if you know what dog does from regular play malice dog won't really suprise you with anything new, just with the intensity of what he does

[amber egret]

i mean the issue stems from "is the fight difficult because it requires precision and reaction speed, or is it difficult because if you get hit once you fundamentally die in one shot from a tail segment"

[dull heart]

both

[amber egret]

hm

over here like draedon/plato

thinkin real hard

[dull heart]

malice contact dmg scaling makes segments do like 600+ damage

[amber egret]

Ough.

even tail segment???

[dull heart]

tail and body are same dmg now

[amber egret]

that thing does like no damage last i remember

ah

[dull heart]

tail being less is stupid

[amber egret]

his

[still bluff]

It's a combination of extremely silly malice damage and being a genuinely super tough fight

[amber egret]

his pooper did less damage

[dull heart]

yeah

[amber egret]

i see

[dull heart]

it's both

if you do FTW death you'll get the same fight but with less damage done

[amber egret]

what makes malice again

[dull heart]

if you do FTW rev he'll be less intense but probably still insane

[amber egret]

like what + what

[dull heart]

it's Legendary's cal difficulty

[still bluff]

I need to put some attempts into malice tbh, make sure it's doable for someone slightly less cracked

[dusk bronze]

legdeath

[dull heart]

like Death being master's cal difficulty and rev being Expert's

[amber egret]

zn

ah*

[still bluff]

Master FTW with cal difficulty on

[grave geyser]

it doesnt need to be

[valid crypt]

So death + gfb/ftw

[grave geyser]

we are talking about malice

[amber egret]

malice exo mechs day 1 release

[grave geyser]

get good is an argument at this point

[dull heart]

yeah

i don't think malice dog should be nerfed at all

[still bluff]

It shouldn't be literally impossible for 99.9% of the playerbase tbf

[amber egret]

this

[still bluff]

(I doubt it is)

[amber egret]

also this

[still bluff]

But still

[dull heart]

it's on FTW secret seed's hardest difficulty

[amber egret]

well yea

[dull heart]

it doesn't really need to be realistic for most players

[amber egret]

just because someone selected piss shitter doesnt mean it should be like

impossible

[dull heart]

but i will say that malice dog, despite me sinking 300 attempts into it and still not winning, never felt like I lost from the boss being unfair

it felt like i lost because I was bad

[amber egret]

"enter up to 1000 digits of pi in 3 minutes" is technically difficult but also like fundamentally impossible

[amber egret]

thats good

i hope

[dull heart]

i don't think any other malice boss will be as insane as dog is either

[lavish otter]

Eh- I would agree, but not if there's the caveat of "literally impossible for 99.9% of the playerbase at the skill level they're on right now"

Kind of back to the Geometry dash thing, most of the hardest levels in the game aren't beatable for the average player unless they do a lot of practice work, but that's the point, they're the ultimate challenge

[amber egret]

mildly saddening(?)

[dull heart]

you should though it's actually so fun

[amber egret]

going through hell and back and yharon just sits there and eats some food

[dull heart]

malice dog is probably the most fun i've had in a terraria boss in a very long time

[amber egret]

"hey man saw what you did to dog over there and im gonna be real i dont wanna fight that. you're gonna kill me before i can respawn and i dont wanna die. so like. imma finish my chicken bucket, and then you can get your loot."

[valid crypt]

I wonder how many people will compare this dog to infernum

[dull heart]

100%

[amber egret]

how would they

[dull heart]

literally everyone will compare malice dog to infernum

[valid crypt]

How many not would they

[grave geyser]

any rework of dog would be compared to infernum

[amber egret]

infernum dog is ramdash central

he doesnt really lasers

[amber egret]

well fair

[valid crypt]

Like this will stop it

[amber egret]

(outside of when they do. dont be a pedant)

[dull heart]

this is partially by design though

[amber egret]

((the one time iirc))

[valid crypt]

Not even a one time thing

[amber egret]

infernum only has one instance of lasers right

[dull heart]

malice dog is purposely like infernum dog if it was made by thirteen crackheads in a lab in an 80's movie

[amber egret]

okay how much crack though

[lavish otter]

Out of curiosity, is GFB DoG still three segments long?

[dull heart]

yes

which makes him much easier than ftw

[amber egret]

oh right im probably mentally confusing gfb and ftw

[dull heart]

that and lacerator

[amber egret]

ftw is like. normal world just very difficult, right

[dull heart]

gfb dog won't be nearly as much of a wall to players as FTW

[amber egret]

its not zenith

[dull heart]

yeah

[amber egret]

okay

[distant raft]

by desp do you mean p3 that starts pretty low or an actual desp where you purely have to survive and damage output is meaningless

[lavish otter]

That makes sense, I'm just excited to see how that's gonna look then

[dull heart]

actual desp

[distant raft]

sounds fun

[amber egret]

i mean desp phases are by nature fun

[dull heart]

it's actually the easiest part of the fight but i expect it to still end a lot of runs

[amber egret]

you dont gotta aim you just gotta shmove

[dull heart]

due to just being a huge pacing shift

[distant raft]

nerves are also a pretty big part

[dull heart]

that too

[amber egret]

that too

jinx

you owe me fifteen billion trillion dollars

[dull heart]

his desp in ftw is literally just infinite predictive portal dashes until he dies from self damage

for the last 10%

[amber egret]

... that doesnt sound abysmal?

[lavish otter]

Is it different in GFB?

[dull heart]

no

[amber egret]

just dont move 50% of the time and dash in a direction 50%

[dull heart]

yeah it's the easiest part of the fight

[grave geyser]

if he's invuln that probably means you cant ram him

[dull heart]

yes

[amber egret]

have yall ever seen uhh

[dull heart]

you can't ram him you must make him miss

[amber egret]

fargos BoC masochist

[dull heart]

it's just nerves + a huge pacing change

[amber egret]

i think its BoC

you just gotta juke the lightning/big ass worm

[lavish otter]

Also fair, I imagine the fact that you're expected to stop moving at any point is what'd get most people

[amber egret]

i mean not really id think

you dont gotta stop moving, you just need the line to not be over your person when it flashes "DEATH AND DIE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[dull heart]

you also can skip the desp if you kill him fast enough bc he has time before he begins the first portal dash

it's just once he's in you gotta wait however much HP is left out

[dull heart]

who said there'd be a line

[upper plover]

How much % does he lose per dash? Or is a constant hp drain?

[amber egret]

theres gotta be some sorta indicator to show its prediction no

[grave geyser]

no

[amber egret]

i would think so

[dull heart]

literally the entire fight is predictive in ftw

[grave geyser]

old duke doesn have those

[dull heart]

every single action

[grave geyser]

and he has predictive

[lavish otter]

Ohhh, pff

[amber egret]

oh its juke heaven

got it

[dull heart]

don't remember

[amber egret]

well yea but you have indicator

they move slightly to show they're about to predictive

[dull heart]

juke hell (dog essentially has momentum capacitor now)

[grave geyser]

out of curiosity
how much faster is dog compared to the player

[lavish otter]

The portals would be an indicator, presumably

[amber egret]

well yea but

hold on

[dull heart]

no idea but it's a lot

[grave geyser]

whats his top speed on death lets start there

[amber egret]

this provides nothing

you just know he's gonna do something

[pseudo vector]

he gets really fast at low hp

lowkey scary kinds of speeds

[amber egret]

this indicates at least something (where he's gonna go)

[vivid hemlock]

pre nerf indev malice dog top speed when 🙏

[amber egret]

ysee what i mean

[dull heart]

in the fast phase it's 33-42 (depending on HP)

in ftw triple that

[amber egret]

mph?

[dull heart]

this is in pixels per tick

i think

[amber egret]

ohh.

i wasl ike

[halcyon seal]

Hey doze, quick question, if I’m using deep diver with leviathan ambergris and old dukes scales, what is the circumference of the sun?

[amber egret]

33 mph is slow as shit

[dull heart]

less than if it was twice as large

[halcyon seal]

Wise

[amber egret]

4.37 million kilometers

[viral merlin]

Need fastbear fredbear levels of speed on devourer of gods

[amber egret]

would burden breaker be fast enough

[upper plover]

Hitscan DoG when?

[viral merlin]

That too

[dull heart]

in mph

[amber egret]

600 mph?

[dull heart]

so the absolute top speed of Malice dog is somewhere around 645 mph

[amber egret]

approx?

[grave geyser]

bit speedy

[amber egret]

okay so like

thats just a laser

no

thats just a hitscan basically

a bullet

[lavish otter]

That's assuming the portals are perfectly circular

[tropic jolt]

quite slow actually

[amber egret]

almost all of his portals have been

[dull heart]

better?

[high scaffold]

Ima watch a "all 1.4.5 spoilers" video and tell if I remember anything interesting

[tropic jolt]

how should I know

[dull heart]

that's 30 instead of 3

so 6450 mph

[tropic jolt]

I think that is better

[amber egret]

Dawg.

at that point he just leaves the map

he insta despawns lol

[upper plover]

Lord accurate DoG

[dull heart]

this is twice the speed of the legendary pogo clip

well

33% more

no it's more then double i was right at first

[halcyon seal]

So all you need is to abuse frozen slime

[cunning sequoia]

im ngl i have no idea what 1.4.5 is even gonna add anymore

[amber egret]

3309 mph

[gray trench]

Can confirm that this fucker is fast as hell

[pseudo vector]

he makes infernum dog look slow lmao

[amber egret]

what about desperation

desperation DoG is quite fast

actually

can someone make a pixel box move at that rate

[upper plover]

Any spoilers regarding the mysterious new rev+ golem attacks?

[polar tide]

cdmusic

[grave geyser]

now on vinyl

[wide wadi]

Cd music on the beat

[polar tide]

i already forgot why i did that

[wide wadi]

One shorted

[placid wadi]

don't we all forget?

[high scaffold]

Everything

[wide wadi]

30 new bosses and a Halloween spider npc

[pseudo vector]

hi

[polar tide]

hello

[high scaffold]

Remember that it was supposed to be a collab update?

[polar tide]

im here to bully you

[cunning sequoia]

is that cdmusic

[valid crypt]

Thats pretty fucking fast i think

[wide wadi]

Yeah dead cells and palworld

[placid wadi]

Second part was pretty surprising

[valid crypt]

What

[dull heart]

6450 would be if i 10x the max speed

[lavish otter]

So that's about...1,980-2,520 pixels per second?
Or 123-157 tiles, good lord

And a tile is two feet, so that's about...168-214 miles per hour. It's at least possible for him to be outsped by a drag car

[jaunty acorn]

I never even knew calamity had an update coming up

[teal bone]

Pew pew pew

[vestal osprey]

He uses a gun now?

Cool, American golem

[plush carbon]

WHY IS IT ROY

KOOPa

WE'VE OFFICIALLY GONE TOO FUCKING FAR

[misty wren]

the rot the rot the rot

@ cheese

[plush carbon]

WHEN ROY KOOPA GETS INVOLVED THATS HOW YOU KNOW YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR

[arctic cliff]

He doesn’t know

[polar tide]

the roy koopa png of instant rage

[mystic eagle]

The RoY Rot

[hot knot]

hmm

[high scaffold]

They are respriting imp summons

[gray trench]

Are they actually

[high scaffold]

Yes

[jaunty acorn]

I hope we actually get to see the dragon aerie next update

[gray trench]

What is dragon aerie

[jaunty acorn]

Where Yharim is waiting to whoop our asses

According to the final lore item you get

[gray trench]

Yharim isn't getting added until 2082

[high scaffold]

July 2023

[dusk bronze]

we won't

[gray trench]

?

[high scaffold]

SotG July 2023 is when they showed us that

[jaunty acorn]

How do you know

[distant raft]

soul of the gaster?????

[dusk bronze]

because the devs talk here often and i know what's in the update

[gray trench]

Soul of the gods

[dusk bronze]

and when aerie stuff will happen

[jaunty acorn]

Well they're probably not telling us

Because that's important shit

[gray trench]

[pulsar cobalt]

one could say the RoYt

[distant raft]

why would gaster make chara make you obscure this information

[dusk bronze]

there's genuinely no reason it would be next update

[jaunty acorn]

?

[dusk bronze]

it would be so random

[jaunty acorn]

What is this logic bro

[distant raft]

yeah why would the yharim arena be added with no yharim

[gray trench]

Hey am i allowed to say whats NOT in the update since i'm readily accessible to that information or should i keep quiet about it

[pulsar cobalt]

the aerie is going to be in one of the last updates of calamity and there is a Fuck Ton™ until we get there

[jaunty acorn]

I assume they'd add Yharim with it

[high scaffold]

You will be able to fill bubble blocks with liquids without it disappearing in 1.4.5

[dusk bronze]

elaborate in dms

[distant raft]

yeah exactly theyre waiting for yharim to add the aerie

[twin juniper]

added gfb mutant as a Yharim placeholder

[jaunty acorn]

But I'm honestly not all too excited for Yharim

[dusk bronze]

yharim won't be added for several years

[jaunty acorn]

I want to see the aerie

[jaunty acorn]

All of our endgame terrarians are sitting on hold on a phone call with Yharim

[distant raft]

nah they all obliterate like in ror2

[gray trench]

Well don't wait

[distant raft]

if you cant wait for it,

[spark kiln]

the dragon aerie won’t be in the next update

that’s one of the last things they’re going to add to the mod

[jaunty acorn]

Wait

Genuinely this is true

[distant raft]

i should actually make that a build

[jaunty acorn]

Maybe it's some Pokémon legends arceus shit

Where they appear from wherever, save the world, and just

Go back

[jaunty acorn]

So now here's my question

How big of a plan do the devs have for calamity

[distant raft]

pretty big

[polar tide]

being excited to see the aerie but not yharim is fascinating i want to study you

[jaunty acorn]

Like

[deft lily]

rip his brain out

[jaunty acorn]

I'm excited to see Yharim and fight him

I wanna kick his ass

But the Dragon Aerie is the thing I wanna see badly

[gray trench]

I can tell you not even they know when they're adding it, they've said on numerous occasions that it's not even close to coming out

[polar tide]

ah

[jaunty acorn]

Sure. The tyrant. The big bad. The one who started all of it

[pseudo vector]

the dragon aerie and yharim will be added in the same update

[strong isle]

Fascinating indeed
I like your line of thinking :)

[gray trench]

Hi cd

[jaunty acorn]

But like...the Dragon Aerie sounds so much cooler

[deft lily]

would be really fucking stupid to add them seperately LOL

[jaunty acorn]

Wait

You're the composer for calamity??

[gray trench]

One of

[pseudo vector]

one of them, yes

[deft lily]

yeah one of

[jaunty acorn]

I thought DMDokuro was the calamity guy

For music

[dusk bronze]

oh sweetie

[pseudo vector]

he hasn't been the musician for nearly 6 years

[gray trench]

Speaking of, what's your favourite track for cal you composed

[jaunty acorn]

Wait what?????

[polar tide]

you are so new

[deft lily]

damn bro is REALLY out of the loop 💀

[polar tide]

welcome to calamityville

[jaunty acorn]

I've been playing the mod for a good few years now

[pseudo vector]

both will likely be in our "final" major content update, at least we plan for it to be the last one

[twin juniper]

This the john boss rush (and some more)

[jaunty acorn]

But I didn't know DM left

[gray trench]

How have you not heard of the lore

[deft lily]

ig if you don't interact with the community is bound to happen

[dusk bronze]

yeah dokuro left and it was a really huge deal

[gray trench]

I wouldn't say he left tbh

We pushed him out

[dusk bronze]

people still talk about it constantly

[jaunty acorn]

I started playing the mod when I was like..12

[gray trench]

It pisses me off that they do

[pseudo vector]

ngl i think its either hydrothermophobia or boss rush tier 2 encore

[jaunty acorn]

Ive not been in the community until now

[gray trench]

Is the first one in the thermal vents

[deft lily]

yeah makes sense
all good

[pseudo vector]

yes

[deft lily]

most ppl who play the mod don't ever interact with the community

[jaunty acorn]

Matter of fact no

[pseudo vector]

abyss layer 3

[deft lily]

tbh

[gray trench]

I'll go there and listen in a minute

:3

[jaunty acorn]

I started playing calamity at 11

[polar tide]

im kidn of hydrothermophobiapilled lately i keep puttign on the music box and listening to it while i fish or some shit

[jaunty acorn]

I don't even know what hydrothermophobia is

[polar tide]

song

[dusk bronze]

music track

[polar tide]

by cdmusic

[dusk bronze]

abyss layer 3

[polar tide]

in abyss

[jaunty acorn]

I only know the dokuro music

[polar tide]

lol

[jaunty acorn]

I thought that was just silence

[dusk bronze]

???

[pseudo vector]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NDC6q8Ege8

[jaunty acorn]

I've never heard the thermal vents theme

[dusk bronze]

it's had music since it was added

[pseudo vector]

is this technically self advertisement LMAO

[dusk bronze]

it was a placeholder but still

[jaunty acorn]

No you're just educating me

[gray trench]

OH THIS ONE

[jaunty acorn]

Its okay there's always a cope

[polar tide]

yes. die

[grave geyser]

yep you're getting banned

[polar tide]

mods KILL HIM

[deft lily]

unacceptable

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/muerto-gif-16250174877271582365

[gray trench]

That one is my second favourite beside vcmm pumpkin moon

[pseudo vector]

man i'm deh

[polar tide]

....lol

[mystic eagle]

VCMM pumpkin moon...

[pseudo vector]

oh do i have news for you

[mystic eagle]

[gray trench]

Oh?

[polar tide]

lollllllllll

[deft lily]

those who know

[pseudo vector]

that one is gone lol

[jaunty acorn]

Very menacing

[dusk bronze]

tyrant was exiled

[deft lily]

-# sadly

[jaunty acorn]

Feels very fitting for the fact that it's the beginning of the end going down to layer 4

[deft lily]

(not that he was exiled, that the track was removed)

[jaunty acorn]

Also I just looked in the comments of the viseo

Who is fabsol?

[deft lily]

LMAO

[gloomy grove]

w plug

[polar tide]

i will say: evobyte already has a wip for the new pumpkin moon themeoh my god

[dusk bronze]

whuh

[gray trench]

[mystic eagle]

He was exiled actually

[jaunty acorn]

Who are they

[deft lily]

EVOBYTE THE GOAT 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

[polar tide]

...ANYWAYS.

[deft lily]

no i mean like
idgaf he was

[jaunty acorn]

I haven't known ANYTHING about the community until literally today twin

[dusk bronze]

you thought dokuro was still here but you've never heard of fab?????

[twin juniper]

lore dump this person

[dusk bronze]

fascinating specimen

[deft lily]

we must study him further

[jaunty acorn]

I know about Dokuro because their music was fucking insane

[deft lily]

like i said
rip his brain out

[jaunty acorn]

Like Dokuro went so hard

[gray trench]

I wanna put him in a jar to study

[jaunty acorn]

Hate the artist not the art

[mystic eagle]

The mod's former owner and professional arsehole

[jaunty acorn]

Oh

[polar tide]

evobyte already has a wip for it, and i will say, it is incredibly delightful and charming so far. literally smiled ear to ear when i heard it

[jaunty acorn]

Were they like. A groomer or something

[dusk bronze]

fabsol was the original creator of the mod, former owner yadda yadda
did some fucked up shit and was also exiled

[dusk bronze]

sorta

[jaunty acorn]

Oh

Yeah no good keep em out

[polar tide]

evo was the correct person to pick to replace tyrant

[jaunty acorn]

Why did Dokuro get exiled

[dusk bronze]

he didn't

fabsol did

[jaunty acorn]

Oh

[mystic eagle]

No but he did invite minors to nsfw servers

[twin juniper]

do you know drunk princess

[deft lily]

not exiled
left because he got harassed by the community at the time

[jaunty acorn]

So what happened with Dokuro leaving

[gray trench]

And the general community

[gray trench]

He left

[jaunty acorn]

Oh my god bro

GGs got rid of the guy who made the best terraria mod music ever

[gray trench]

Don't talk about him much and leave him alone pls & thanks, he doesn't need more attention

[gloomy grove]

mmm subjective

[deft lily]

yeah but that was like 6 years ago and its kind of getting exhausting pppl mopping about it lol

[gray trench]

Yeah...

[polar tide]

respectfully: is this the channel to be recapping the entirety of calamity community lore

[jaunty acorn]

Honestly the work is so present

[mystic eagle]

Subjective, and he's the only modded terraria artist you heard of until 5 minutes ago

[gloomy grove]

they did ask the gist of it

[dusk bronze]

we're updating someone about calamity

[deft lily]

hes true

[polar tide]

True...

[gloomy grove]

[jaunty acorn]

I've seen much more music

[gray trench]

Can they update me on what happened with tyrant

[jaunty acorn]

And more artists

[dusk bronze]

leaked stuff

[polar tide]

are you in music server