calamity-update-talk

[severe coral]

But that also works ig

ye

Which would look ew

[dull heart]

there is a background ofc for it though

so it doesn't look too weird

[severe coral]

Ye ye

I was thinkin too much like an old meter I made

[lapis oak]

🙏 awesome work doze it looks so peak

really enjoy this one

[severe coral]

What is that

Also how do I do shaders :(

[orchid finch]

the file name

honey where are my auric leggings

[lapis oak]

oh shoot is that one of the new title messages for Cal

[high scaffold]

Morning spoilers feel good

Boss health bars reconfirmed

Will it be a new style?

[jagged cliff]

No it will be a new type of Metal Gear Rising health bar

[lean cave]

zamn!

thats a really neat effect, looks sick as hell

little twinklies

[lapis oak]

flopppa hiiiii

[lean cave]

hiiiii

you're blue now

[lapis oak]

I'm bluu

[lean cave]

thats their attack

[azure oak]

tbh the black hole at the center looks a bit off but for the rest it's peam

[wind niche]

is the update likely to come out this month?

[lapis oak]

anywhere between in around 2 months

[jagged cliff]

Most likely this month or early into next month

I'm betting on the 27th

[wind niche]

cool

[lapis oak]

5/60 chance countdown with the number going up everyday

[gloomy grove]

is there a particular reason why the bars are fat

[high scaffold]

I think I figured out one more way to make melee more melee

Making vanila style swords that shoot projectiles also have an alternative attack when attacking up close

Instead of a projective a larger stronger slash

[buoyant pulsar]

or just remove the projectiles

[high scaffold]

Thats not quite a right way

[buoyant pulsar]

fun weapons often have multiple functions that play off of one another

especially in new gen cal weapon design

[high scaffold]

If completely getting rid of projectiles need a way to approach enemies without destroying yourself in the process

[buoyant pulsar]

@dull heart hear me out; sephiroth octaslash

[buoyant pulsar]

lunge

more cal melee weapons need lunge attacks imo

[modern grove]

I think it's just a copout

Weapons with left and right click attack work the best when there's an actual interaction and dynamic between the two

[buoyant pulsar]

this solves the approach problem and is much more satisfying and logical than projectiles

[buoyant pulsar]

yes

[modern grove]

Not just 2 separate unrelated attacks added to one weapon

[buoyant pulsar]

lightspeed and galileo gladius both execute this well

you dont need reach

melee is not the reach class

you need approach options

[fierce hearth]

Dashes into your close fierce proximity to punish you outside of its range when you wanted far fierce

(if a weapons functionality can be altered by things outside of the player's control, then it might feel like ass)

[buoyant pulsar]

proximity alone wont solve the problem

consider how melee weapons w/ projectiles deal extra damage in closer range already

[fierce hearth]

Yea

[modern grove]

Also it's not like there are that many projectile swords in vanilla

[buoyant pulsar]

the strategy becomes face tanking

[modern grove]

A big part of melee weapons in vanilla aren't even swords

[buoyant pulsar]

melee weapons should have more precision

[blazing field]

hi spoiler talk what are we talking about

[modern grove]

Calamity sure has a lot of projectile swords and I think people projected this issue onto vanilla thinking it also has it

[buoyant pulsar]

melee weapon design

personally i dont rlly like how a lot of new swords have perfectly circular slashes. i like elliptical ones because they require more accuracy/actually pointing at the enemy

like how murasama slashes for example

[blazing field]

Vanilla does have it fair share of projectile swords that don't really do much other than shooting projectiles but its not as noticeable as in calamity

theres enchanted sword, beam sword, ice sowrd, frost sword or whatever its called

[buoyant pulsar]

brand

[blazing field]

True exb/true nights edge/terra blade all used to be like taht but the reworks made them cooler

[fierce hearth]

Generally melee's issue has been that it's a lot easier to design exotic and wacky things when they don't have to be physically swung. The nature of melee is largely limiting by the idea of what constitutes a melee weapon, and how that tends to be harder to fit gimmicks into that still feel true to an idea of "melee". Not impossible, as we've seen with various weapons that throw you around, have multiple hit boxes that favor close proximity, or have faster use time at close range (boomerangs)

[buoyant pulsar]

what do yall think of this

[modern grove]

Most projectile swords still perform infinitely better in close range

[buoyant pulsar]

i think its okay to have melee weapons that aren't 'swing/stab thing at enemy'

variety is good

[fierce hearth]

I agree that aimable melee tends to be more fun. Especially bc the vanilla swing arc prevents being able to attack from above

[blazing field]

weapon identtiy

identity

[buoyant pulsar]

but swords do constitute a large portion of melee, which i also think is okay

[blazing field]

swords are probably the first thing people think of when they think melee weapon

so yeah its to be expected

There's alot of cool melee weapons that you can use as inspo though

Shoutout to how we only have a single mace in the entire mod

🔥 🔥

[buoyant pulsar]

the entire gimmick is being next to the enemy to deal better damage, which is in fact the basic principle of the class, but the problem is that you just hover there. it has no followthrough or weight or movement or anything at all

imo, more melee weapons need lunges SPECIFICALLY

[blazing field]

wdym by

hover there

[buoyant pulsar]

fly next to the boss and hold m1

[summer shore]

no knockback or smth

[blazing field]

that's kind of just how every class is tbh

thats just terraria combat

[buoyant pulsar]

a specific dedicated primary or secondary function that acts as either an approach option, a longer/larger attack, or both

[graceful ivy]

hi cheese

[fierce hearth]

This would be annoying as fuck to implement bc it'd require flagging every knockback immune target as immune but it'd be really funny to have a melee weapon that had high knockback and attached a hitbox to anything it hit so launched enemies become projectiles

[blazing field]

hi

[buoyant pulsar]

there should be a flail that does this tbh

[buoyant pulsar]

i guess but the difference is that no other class (outside of certain niche cases) is incentivized to be right next to BUT not touching a boss

[high scaffold]

Lightspeed rework

[buoyant pulsar]

if you've ever fought yharon with murasama, i think its fair to say it feels off

[high scaffold]

Murasama rework

[buoyant pulsar]

you just hover there next to it and hold m1 at it until it moves

[blazing field]

ive never fought yharon lm

[summer shore]

how....

[blazing field]

this has been known cheese lore altraxer

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah obv but im talkin about current murasama bc it illustrates my point

[blazing field]

ive never gotten past pbg

[summer shore]

dawg...

[blazing field]

moderator. literally calamitas. roy co owner

never gotten past the fuckass bee

im jus that swag

[summer shore]

roy co owner
never finished calamity

[terse dew]

that's low-key awesome

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah lightspeed rework does this pretty well

[summer shore]

insanity

[fierce hearth]

Thar's hilarious

[summer shore]

galileo gladius rework

[terse dew]

Almost as cool as calamity developer merkalto who played on classic mode

[fierce hearth]

Look not every dev needs to be actually skilled at gameplay so long as there's someone there to test for them

[buoyant pulsar]

if any of yall have played ror2 i think a melee weapon that worked like merc's dash slash would be cool

actually thats basically just lightspeed

[lapis oak]

shared name with Ataraxia
never finished calamity

[fierce hearth]

Melee with a multi-charge dash alt fire would be neat

[buoyant pulsar]

i said that one lol

[misty wren]

id argue they dont need lunges as much as they need hitstop

[buoyant pulsar]

hitstop like

just aesthetically?

[fierce hearth]

Hitstop would fundamentally change the game unfortunately

[misty wren]

yes aesthetically

[buoyant pulsar]

hitstop on singleplayer would be okay i think

[summer shore]

Hey I have finished calamity

[buoyant pulsar]

autopause :P

the code is there

[summer shore]

I've done like 6 playthroughs

[blazing field]

If i locked in i could probably beat pbg and i've tried to before just so i can Know what the experience is like but what's the point of locking in if you're not having fun with something to begin with
I've never been too big on terraria combat and pbg being a very unfun fight dosen't help, specially when at that point i know after pbg it's mostly just More Bosses

[lyric trellis]

This is very true, I remember testing star fury and enchanted sword and they were significantly better true melee which is obviously good, there’s quite a few cal melee weapons like that too but also are limited by boss design and easier options (why use Void Edge’s true melee effect on DoG? Or why even use Void Edge at all with Terror Blade existing)

[gloomy grove]

hitstop on multi also works if its done well

[blazing field]

earlygame calamity still my favorite part of it </3

Once brainstorm drops maybe i'll start my fated calamity journey playthrough

[buoyant pulsar]

hitstop would make it more satisfying but im talking from a pure design aspect. i mean the general all-encompassing statement i think i can say is that pretty much all melee weapons need a dedicated way to approach enemies and interact with them in melee range without incentivizing face tanking

[summer shore]

Pbg being unfun is such a travesty they ruined my girl

[misty wren]

hitstop is in a lot of monster hunter games iirc including recent ones and those are multiplayer so it absolutely can work in terraria

[gloomy grove]

all even

[misty wren]

ive never played monster hunter so i wouldnt know

[blazing field]

funny that pbg actually has one of my favorite themes

[summer shore]

that one dragonfolly spear I think

Forgot the name

[fierce hearth]

If a game is designed with hitstop in mind, obviously it can be implemented, but Terraria wasn't, and coding it in with multiplayer functionality would be a goddamn nightmare for both code and balance.

[blazing field]

fly of beelzebub is such a banger

[misty wren]

gilded proboscis

[blazing field]

im ngl deadass

[summer shore]

Yes that onr

[blazing field]

everything is a coding nightmare for multiplayer in tmod

😭 😭 😭

[buoyant pulsar]

terror blade is the silliest lamest weapon btw

[gloomy grove]

balance?

[misty wren]

yeah

[fierce hearth]

Unless you mean hitstop exclusively for the weapon anim

[misty wren]

yeah terraria multiplayer is a nightmare its a miracle walking in any given direction works

[modern grove]

Do what fables does and test the mod exclusively or just mostly in multiplayer

[fierce hearth]

Because otherwise in multiplayer, hitstop would allow for other players to have significantly more freedom to do whatever while the player with the hitstop weapon limits enemy movement

[blazing field]

me when my friend wants to play tmod with me but when they join suddenly my house explodes and old duke riding on moon lords back appears and tells me to vote him for president 2026 (minor multiplayer bug)

[lean relic]

Post that gif about "hey you need [something i forgor] so projectiles can sync in multiplayer"

[misty wren]

yeah that changes nothing aggro already does that

[lapis oak]

hasn't been going well with Cal given what doze said

[modern grove]

What did doze say

[gloomy grove]

tested on multi so extensively they got a singleplayer bug on release

[fierce hearth]

The devs would also need to code in exceptions because imagine if your awesome sword just stopped yharon mid-dash. More work. It's a big ask

[lapis oak]

just lacks of support for testing in general tbh

not exclusive to mp only

[gloomy grove]

dont implement hitstop that way then

[buoyant pulsar]

chat hitstop is literally gonna last like 0.1 seconds

its not tea time

[misty wren]

not even hitstop is like a 2 or 3 frame affair

[buoyant pulsar]

but that would go hard

[lapis oak]

it was doze or big E said that BoC rework testing took too long because there's just lack of testers doing it

[blazing field]

Hitstop on parry

🥰

[fierce hearth]

Considering most melee hit multiple times a second, a 2 frame stop adds up fast

[blazing field]

Hitstop effects that add a big feeling of impact/weight when you pull off moves that require good timing or precision my beloved

Histop on every melee hit would be insane im ngl

[fierce hearth]

THAT I can get behind. It being significantly more selective would be less wild

[misty wren]

yeah hitstop is

it adds impact

[blazing field]

Like even from a game design standpoint that's just like not good

Not even coding or w/e

[misty wren]

why the fuck would i need big punchy impact on submarine shocker

[gloomy grove]

hitstop is obviously for weight who would slap it into a minishark

[fierce hearth]

But even so it's kind of a wild design ask bc it would probably require some beefy code to not make terraria shit itself (or feel like ass)

[modern grove]

Throw minishark like a boomerang

[misty wren]

theres a reason theres a rough correlation with attack speed and knockback you cant have every hit sending something into the fucking stratosphere when you're hitting multiple times a second

[blazing field]

A hitstop code really shouldn't be that hard from a theoretical view im ngl but i dont code on tmod so

I dunno if terraria has anything specifically that'd make it hard

Maybe it does

thank god im not a tmod coder amen

[misty wren]

really really bad netcode

[lapis oak]

wtf is hitstop

[misty wren]

in short stuff freezes for a couple frames when you hit something with a big enough hit

[distant raft]

game stops for a little when you get hit

or when you hit something yeah

[gloomy grove]

something stops on impact

many ways to implement it

[distant raft]

like smash

[fierce hearth]

Hitstop is a game mechanic where to add impact to a particularly powerful attack, either the entire game or every entity involved in the attack will be briefly frozen to sell it

[lapis oak]

does applying on projectiles only count

[blazing field]

It's a effect where the game freezes for a few frames for certain inputs or effects

[gloomy grove]

no ew

[blazing field]

Look at Ultrakill's parry

that has a hitstop

[gloomy grove]

hitstop on projectiles 😭

if its a hitscan maybe, but anything else thats just odd

[fierce hearth]

Or any fighting game how when you land a move it sits on the hit for a few frames longer than if the attack whiffed

[misty wren]

hitstop on projectiles congrats thats really common thats called a really big hit

[blazing field]

Ok a hitstop on a cool big hitscan move goes hard

[lapis oak]

not what I meant

[buoyant pulsar]

closest we have to hitstop in cal

[blazing field]

Like that one gun in smash ultimate

[fierce hearth]

What did u mean Kiri

[lapis oak]

I meant does only projectiles getting stopped count

[fierce hearth]

Uhhhh technically, but it wouldn't be as satisfying

But yes

[blazing field]

you can amke hitstopa ffect anything you want it to it's not a set in swtone thing it's just a game design concept

[lapis oak]

then Cal has that already it's called Buzzkill and SS

[misty wren]

its just Stuff Stopping When Something Gets Hit By Something

[fierce hearth]

Lmao

[blazing field]

kiriblue does not understand what a hitstop is

[lapis oak]

I said

[fierce hearth]

Kiri has played us all for fools

[lapis oak]

cheese

[gloomy grove]

is this ragebait kiri

:(

[blazing field]

kiriblue kiriwhite look up ultrakill parry on youtube dot com or perhaps on google

thats a hitstop

[lapis oak]

I literally said "does only projectiles getting stopped count"

you said yes

so I answered

[distant raft]

doesnt hollow knight have hitstop too

[lapis oak]

what

[fierce hearth]

The sawblade continues spinning so it actually didn't stop

[blazing field]

When you get hit it has a hitstop effect yes

[gloomy grove]

yes actually

[fierce hearth]

Hitstop is a visual flair so the sawblade continuing to spin is different

I have defeated Kiri in a battle of wits

[gloomy grove]

alot of games do hitstop differently yeah its a broad concept

[jagged cliff]

they should give that one screwdriver item hit stops

From the wulfrum set

[fierce hearth]

Anyway we just had another clupdate talk moment where we spent 30 minutes talking about some shit we straight up made up

[gloomy grove]

clupdate

[lapis oak]

the main saw comes to a stop

[fierce hearth]

Yes

Kiri for both our sakes I'll drop the subject

[lapis oak]

good I win

[fierce hearth]

Being headstrong will win any discord conversation so long as you don't violate server rules

[misty wren]

violating server rules is exactly how you win

[grim atlas]

what da hell

[misty wren]

hi jupir

[grim atlas]

hellooo

what's goig on

[misty wren]

crime

[deft lily]

ppl on discord arguing

i think

idk im too lazy to back read

[lapis oak]

u said yes technically a hitstop when I asked does only projectiles being stopped count so ye I was right

[fierce hearth]

Clupdate chat decided to talk about hitstop and Kiri took a stance no one could have predicted, let alone defeat

[lapis oak]

I mean like are the saws not being stopped here on hit?

[fierce hearth]

Oh wait oh shit no that's right

You actually do win

I'm the fool

[lapis oak]

smelly

[fierce hearth]

I fucking forgot it was a brief pause not the projectile fucking stalling on impact

Kiri is actually always right

[grim atlas]

ss hitstop isn't very noticeable tbf

ss is also an acronym

of all time

[lapis oak]

SS is a bridge between BS and SSO

it's the acronym of all time

[fierce hearth]

I don't know why I misremembered the saw's mechanics when my last run was ranged

[high scaffold]

Elemental weapons reworks

Is what I need

[lapis oak]

nah u fine I only noticed it after fighting Scal with SS for like 4 times

[fierce hearth]

I think I got the "saw slows down and hangs in the air" mixed around in my brain and thought it did that on impact too

[high scaffold]

MM weapons being elemental upgrades

[fierce hearth]

Also aren't elemental reworks planned

I don't remember how urgently I haven't checked the doc

[high scaffold]

With an exception of the ark

Because melee is not like everyone else

[fierce hearth]

Wait I might be thinking of another weapon class

[lapis oak]

Ark is the

Special child

[high scaffold]

Melee glaze at its finest

[lapis oak]

@pulsar cobalt recode the AotC

Cal dev entry level question

In 2030

[misty wren]

ark is the special child because it already got reworked

[fierce hearth]

Ok yeah elementals are planned for rework but the doc doesn't say if they're planned for SSO/BS

[high scaffold]

Theres lightspeed

[misty wren]

dont think they're planned for either

[lapis oak]

I mean also as like it doesn't upgrade into MM

[terse dew]

I will lead calamity mod HR

[high scaffold]

And 2 resprites

[misty wren]

good i hate the miracle matter upgrade lines

[terse dew]

I love applicants but I'd never ever ever ever ever ever hire anyone

😊

[lapis oak]

Meanie

[fierce hearth]

If Calamity were a paying job I'd say an actionable threat

[misty wren]

what my dad works at calamity mod and he can get your dad fired

[terse dew]

Woah

[lapis oak]

Don't do that I need money American dollar is expensive

[fierce hearth]

$1 is worth like 100 dollars

[misty wren]

thats why you will have to work at ytimalac instead

[lapis oak]

😔

[misty wren]

anyways i disappear now

[lapis oak]

Baii

[fierce hearth]

Ytimalac is a careful and calculated pruning of Terraria's content to minimize combat and slow the game down for a casual experience

[high scaffold]

Brainstorm tomorrow

[lapis oak]

U mean

Beating u up

[gloomy grove]

[high scaffold]

When is new calamity player UI?

[graceful ivy]

Not in next update

[high scaffold]

The one we seen looks good

But it might be outdated by now

[dull heart]

Violence has hitstop sorta

[high scaffold]

Also is this new boss ui BS or SSO feature?

Wait, debuff update in BS?

[lapis oak]

Doze u just bullying her

[lapis oak]

Not in BS

SSO maybe depends on how quick it'll be finished

[high scaffold]

How much of SSO is done by now

Like half?

[lapis oak]

For sprites only 2 creatures left

Other aspects? No idea

[high scaffold]

Generation is at least somewhat done

Theres a confirmed stormlion charger

SS weapon reworks are done mostly if not fully I think

[stone fiber]

#evil
Yeah that checks out

[high scaffold]

Ammo swap accessory

Wonder what it will realy be

Additional stat boost, way to obtain

[grim atlas]

is this a lightmap

or uhh

glowmap

[lapis oak]

It's a sprite sheet

[high scaffold]

Boss healthbar

[gray trench]

This will be cool

[high scaffold]

Calamity's old color pallet was weird

Washed out Id say

[jagged copper]

well back then every boss looked like a plush with gore

[gray trench]

So it goes from (bottom to top)
Red -> pink -> whitu

[plush carbon]

whose Files are these

[gray trench]

For anyone trying to figure it out

[grim atlas]

awesome

[gray trench]

Is this is new menu theming

[grim atlas]

ima let someone else do allat

😭

[high scaffold]

Why yall only see the unassembled sprite

[lapis oak]

It is solved

[gray trench]

Oh?

What is

[high scaffold]

Its boss healthbar

[lapis oak]

Boss Healthbar

[gray trench]

Being that tall?

[plush carbon]

this arg was solved 5 years ag,,,o

[lapis oak]

That's a sprite sheet

So no

[stark pond]

is this just a color palette of something

[high scaffold]

Smartest calamity player

[gray trench]

Oh i thought it was the sprite

Lmao

[plush carbon]

is that supposed to be Koishi in your pfp because Wow

[gray trench]

It's the colours yuah

[plush carbon]

i dont remember her looking quite like that

[gray trench]

Can you not insult me for no reason, thanks

[high scaffold]

I just found an old video showcasing murasama variants, did not age well

[high scaffold]

Ye sorry

Just assumed if you are diving into terraria mod development you would know how sprite sheets work

[plush carbon]

are those like the sprites that are sheeted

[high scaffold]

One sprite

[plush carbon]

is this a sprite sheet

[gray trench]

Im not a dev

Nor a modder

My only development experience is the files of borderlands 3, which uses models

[grim atlas]

yes

[plush carbon]

thanks this helps a lot

i can release Calamity Fabfull now

[grim atlas]

9 of the same sprite in a spritesheet is a little redundant though

[plush carbon]

thats because i neeed it to stay on that frame for longer

[grim atlas]

fair enough

[plush carbon]

is this a good size for a sprite sheet

[dusk bronze]

average eutrophic glass wall sprite

[orchid finch]

True?

[grim atlas]

smallest armor set sheet

[orchid finch]

Oh my god is this THE Jupiter underscore oh five?

[plush carbon]

i dont know

[grim atlas]

no im a fake

a replacement

[orchid finch]

Aw :(

That sucks

[grim atlas]

sorry to disappoint

the old one appointed me as heir

[orchid finch]

No more Jupi shenanigans

The end of an era

[grim atlas]

unfortunately yes but isn't a new era exciting as well

maybe the new jupiter has some shenanigans to offer as well

what about that

huh

[orchid finch]

They won't be the same though...

Nothing will ever be the same anymore, that's what hurts the most

[grim atlas]

but new things can be fun guys

will boc be the first full boss rework since fabsol?

[orchid finch]

And DoG too

[grim atlas]

oh yeahh

exciting

hope they're good

i have faith in my goats at calamity dev hq

[orchid finch]

From what I've heard, they are

[high scaffold]

Cnidron

In SSO

[orchid finch]

SSO 2026-2027

[high scaffold]

What if that lizard like sprite will be cnidron instead of scourge

[orchid finch]

Nah devs were saying he'd still be a seahorse

But like who knows

[high scaffold]

Those who know

[orchid finch]

Maybe he'll become a giant jellyfish

[orchid finch]

Wow Mr. Knows-It-All

What's the circumference of the Earth?

[high scaffold]

Ask the one who knows

Not me

I just play games

And will be making games in the future

[grim atlas]

probably about six or seven

[blazing field]

haha

[orchid finch]

I'm killing you

[grim atlas]

do it you won't

[orchid finch]

Jupi that meme is like unfunny and also old and also unfunny

[modern grove]

Calamity spoiler

[grim atlas]

well so am i

match made in heaveb

[summer shore]

it's funny because it's unfunny

[modern grove]

Twerking chicken from the leviathans texture will be added to calamity

[summer shore]

isn't that interesting

[grim atlas]

yeah probably

[orchid finch]

Why are there little twerking Thanoses on that thing

[placid wadi]

deadly spoiler

[grim atlas]

i just called ceo of calamity he said it's happening

[placid wadi]

i think it's supposed to be something like algae since this thing swims

[blazing field]

hey man

[orchid finch]

Yeah but why do they look like that 😭

[blazing field]

hows your day

[lapis oak]

Why is it twerking

[blazing field]

anything cool happening

[grim atlas]

notice anything ......

different .............

[summer shore]

oh my go

[orchid finch]

Yes, me and my whole family made two batches of pelmeni and now we're cooking one of them

Fuck you

[modern grove]

I eat plastic

[blazing field]

😭

i8 was waiting for you to notice

[orchid finch]

I'm on mobile, it doesn't update immediately

No wait it does what

I guess my brain doesn't update immediately

[placid wadi]

decided to look up what pelmeni is thinking it's some kind of exotic dish just to realize it's dumplings

[grim atlas]

dude why would you name yourself after that dumb meme

kinda embarassing

to be honest

[blazing field]

also damn this looks good

[grim atlas]

looks like little gnocchis kinda

[hot pebble]

Ahhhhh!!!

[grim atlas]

or yeah just dumblings

[hot pebble]

Awesome

[summer shore]

gnocchi the rock

[orchid finch]

You are a dumbling

[grim atlas]

holy shit

[modern grove]

Calamity spoiler

[grim atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-gif-26931504

[orchid finch]

Embed failed

[grim atlas]

die

[placid wadi]

in poland we have something like that

dumplings as well

[grim atlas]

🤪

[orchid finch]

What is this chestnut spider looking thing

[summer shore]

looks like malaysian curry puffs

[orchid finch]

Pierogis isn't it?

[grim atlas]

yummy

[placid wadi]

ye

just to state

pierogi is already a plural

pieróg is singular

[grim atlas]

one pieróg

[orchid finch]

I know, but English is stupid and pluralizarion is S

[grim atlas]

like a spaghetto

[orchid finch]

Unless it's a thesis and words alike

[grim atlas]

unless cacti

but cactuses is also correct

[lapis oak]

Pierogi the hit healing food from the hit game Don't Starve

[pearl sentinel]

can the calamity devs patch out my flu

[grim atlas]

it was so popular they made it a real food

that's actually the number one priority for update 2.1

[placid wadi]

let's add pierogi to calamity

[summer shore]

one piehog

[grim atlas]

that was

not my nickname in highschool

im not gross like that

[summer shore]

wait

one pie ce

[quiet spade]

i came here for spoilers and now im hungry

[orchid finch]

I don't think they can accomplish that in a month or two

[summer shore]

ohhh

[orchid finch]

Congratulations, you've figured out what pierog means in English

[grim atlas]

wanna see a big stack of cheese i made at work

that's the only picture of food on my phone

[orchid finch]

A big stack of @blazing field

Maybe not, it's not really Calamity update talk

[placid wadi]

if you want to translate pieróg literally into pie róg then you can call it pie horn

[grim atlas]

wat the hell

bans you

[orchid finch]

You can't ban me, you ain't no mod

[pearl sentinel]

if it takes a month for this to pass im gonna do smething

[lapis oak]

Do smething 😨

[pearl sentinel]

[grim atlas]

think again

[orchid finch]

The evil brother of smithing

[hot pebble]

I love dumplings

[summer shore]

is that nike

[cunning sequoia]

my beloved

[plush carbon]

pffhhh

[grim atlas]

why is everyone polish

[plush carbon]

i haven't played OneShot because too many people have told me to play OneShot

[cunning sequoia]

nie wiem

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1370526525648015490/1428930213353361509/boppign.gif

[pearl sentinel]

shu , p ..

[grim atlas]

rule 6

erm mods

[placid wadi]

There are so many polish and russian people playing oneshot

for whatever reason

[grim atlas]

whatthe fuck

oh my god bruh

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-oh-my-god-bruh-saleswoman-oh-my-god-bruh-gif-2398788864743270124

[cunning sequoia]

embed catastrophe

[grim atlas]

atacks you

[dusk bronze]

cringe

it's peak

[high scaffold]

Is official localisation coming in BS?

[cunning sequoia]

hate this mindset ngl

[cunning sequoia]

wdym?

[grim atlas]

probably not

but idk

[cunning sequoia]

calamity's officially only in english

localizations are separate mods

[grim atlas]

yea so no official localization

[dusk bronze]

i thought they brought a couple localizers onto the dev team recently

[deft lily]

i mean
shes not required to play a game just because people have told her she should.

[orchid finch]

I am not

[high scaffold]

Calamity will support multiple languages

[orchid finch]

Personally I am moisturizer

[lapis oak]

Yes

[deft lily]

just because people have told me to play deltarune does't mean im going to or have to lmao

[dry whale]

not playing it only beacuse people told to is uh....weird

[dusk bronze]

specifically choosing to not play something bc people say you should is cringe

[high scaffold]

Why did discord double my message

[orchid finch]

Discord does that sometimes

[orchid finch]

They did?

[blazing field]

i think people can not consume media for petty reasons if they want to ngl its their choice
A difference would be if theyre actually acting as if said media is bad because of that

[dusk bronze]

pretty sure

[plush carbon]

on a side note

[grim atlas]

yeah people can just get annoyed and wanna avoid something for a while because of that

[high scaffold]

Is localisation done by certain people or public contribution too?

[grim atlas]

don't see anything wrong with that

[blazing field]

yep

[grim atlas]

that's kinda why i havent played outer wilds

but don't tell anyone

keep that on the down low

or they'll come back

the Voices.

[cunning sequoia]

fair enough

[blazing field]

the voices

[orchid finch]

Well even then, I don't think the localizations will be baked into the mod, Ozz was vocal about not adding localizations because "we'd like to push updates without having to wait for localizers to make changes"

[deft lily]

same reason why i dont play ultrakill even though ive been told told like 100 times that i should
doesn't mean i have to listen to them

[blazing field]

engaging with those currently

[orchid finch]

And I think it's a fair policy

[plush carbon]

tbh if i see something bein constantly praised as like the second coming of Christ and I actually do play it its just setting up to be disappointed

[grim atlas]

are you winning

[blazing field]

no shes beating my ass

[orchid finch]

So the most we're getting is officially supported translation add-ons

[blazing field]

Yeah. 👍

[grim atlas]

dude what the hell

fight back or something

[orchid finch]

Omg I'm so happy for you 🥹

[grim atlas]

there is one game that i glaze more than any other

[orchid finch]

Engagements are so cute

[blazing field]

not like that

Not like that.

[grim atlas]

that i scrutinize by the highest possible standard

[blazing field]

going back to sscls

fuck you

[grim atlas]

and it still holds up

ok bye

[grim atlas]

and it may not just be the greatest game of all time

but maybe the single greatest piece of media ever

[blazing field]

(without pluralkit this is a massive headache help meee)

[grim atlas]

across all history

[blazing field]

anyways ac tually going now goo by

[deft lily]

anyways this convo is boring

[grim atlas]

ok bye

dude what the hell

what do you mean you don't want to hear me glaze signalis endlessly

don't be silly

[graceful ivy]

Signalis cattle

[deft lily]

with all due respect idc because idk what that is.

[grim atlas]

yeah im a sheep

the unenlightened masses

[deft lily]

yep there it is.

[orchid finch]

Damn, the Mx. Original Gangster needs to be educated

[deft lily]

the mx?
what

[grim atlas]

if you think im trying to say im superior to you because ive played signalis

you're right

so suck it

[graceful ivy]

Own that fraud

[deft lily]

1 blocked message

[grim atlas]

frauuudd

[orchid finch]

Mx is like a neutral-gender Mr Mrs whatever shenanigans, although do take it with a pinch of salt, I only saw it in RAM
Original Gangster - OG

[grim atlas]

bro folded 😔

[plush carbon]

thats a good impression of Mal

[grim atlas]

nah mal wouldn't block me

[orchid finch]

I would

[grim atlas]

you wouldn't

[orchid finch]

(or would i)

[grim atlas]

nuh uh

[orchid finch]

Yeah I wouldn't

[grim atlas]

who could block this adorable face

[deft lily]

i see.
i do not have my pronouns listed so that makes sense.

[grim atlas]

gestures at borotan pfp

best dog ever made

[orchid finch]

The sneaky horse in the bio

Sorry, "About Me"

[graceful ivy]

quit horsing around...

[orchid finch]

The opposing horse...

[graceful ivy]

I got horse opps

[grim atlas]

dude did you see that

🐎💨

and just like that he's gone

[orchid finch]

For a second, I think it waddled away very quickly

[high scaffold]

Whats all the hype about horses?

[grim atlas]

they go neighh

[graceful ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-run-meme-release-me-fast-gif-2134328350514985779

[orchid finch]

Nothing really

[high scaffold]

Horses are SBR reference

[graceful ivy]

god damnit i dont have embed perms

the spin...

[orchid finch]

Nobody has

We are all doomed for eternity to embed fail

[dusk bronze]

are you sure

[orchid finch]

:walterheisenbergwhite:

[deft lily]

we can finally bee bees

this is good news

[high scaffold]

At least we have image perms

Amidas posting flashback

[deft lily]

can't wait for the amidias market to crash after SSO comes out

[orchid finch]

I don't think it'll exist by that point

I mean why would he need a market when he'll be a quest len... Wait how do you call it?

Quest lender? Quest giver?

What's the correct term?

[deft lily]

idk im not chronically in this server 24/7

[high scaffold]

I assume terraspark upgrades resprites arent coming in BS

[deft lily]

i think someone else who is though could answer

[orchid finch]

If the devs are kind enough

[plush carbon]

hello

the term you are looking for is Solyn

[high scaffold]

I think theres a temporary moonwalkers resprite

[orchid finch]

That's not a term, that's a full-ass namedrop

[deft lily]

also tf is a solyn-
-# oh wotg

[orchid finch]

Shame on you

[deft lily]

the mod that i havent beaten because ND likes to despawn every two seconds.

[orchid finch]

What

How

That's like the most unintended behavior from that mod

[deft lily]

ill be fighting ND and he'll just despawn halfway through the fight

music will still be playing but im just there in the garden. chilling.

[high scaffold]

Is prymo wyrm resprite in BS?

[orchid finch]

Also unknown

[deft lily]

i didn't really feel like looking into it so i just...
didnt lol

[high scaffold]

Ghost levi from subnautica

[deft lily]

loved AoE though

best fight in modded terraria imo

Lucille is way too good for tmod lmao

[high scaffold]

Area of Effect

[deft lily]

-# a lot of talented people in this community are

[placid wadi]

I have vanished way too many times

[deft lily]

ok

good for you

👍

[placid wadi]

not so good when you disappear from reality and reappear 5 seconds later

[deft lily]

Ig.

[orchid finch]

idk I'm fine

[halcyon seal]

I think AoE is almost perfect

But I do have some problems with it

Mainly the black hole attack

And that first phase with the portal

[deft lily]

the first phase is kind of weird but it didn't rlly ruin the fight for me

[halcyon seal]

Phase 1 kinda just feels unnecessary and I’d really prefer if it was just like a 20 second intro

And the black hole attack is pretty uninteresting, you really just fall down with pogo stick or slimy saddle

[halcyon seal]

It def doesn’t ruin the fight, I just think it could use a little more work

[deft lily]

right yeah

still
ive yet to see any other terraria mod top it lmao

maybe calamity will top it with you know who out of the picture but who knows.

[halcyon seal]

In terms of my favorite boss

Master Ceiros on SLR’s always gonna be an incredible fight tbh

Maso Devi is probably my favorite boss of all time rn

[deft lily]

speak of the devil

hi lucille

[halcyon seal]

Not just modded terraria but like in general

[flat folio]

Lucille should be completely fucking ashamed of herself. First she steals Calamity's Xeroc character and then, like a bumbling, terminal Dunning-Kruger victim implements it in the most lame, monotonous, glitter-bomb way possible. Like, seriously? How many lasers can you hamfistedly squeeze into this?! And what the hell are these graphical effects?! This is a textbook example of making content that dimwitted youtube commenters can turn their brains off to and gawk at because "Haha, pretty bloom and shaders! Looks so unique!"
Is your FPS even above 15 right now???

More applicable to ND than Avatar BUT wutever!

[deft lily]

what the fuck LMAO

[halcyon seal]

Evil Fanny truth nuke?

[deft lily]

stealing that

[flat folio]

People have posted it before and got flamed by others not in the know about the origin of the copypasta

[deft lily]

i see

[pseudo vector]

💀

[plush carbon]

evil Fanny......

[pseudo vector]

also hi lucille

[deft lily]

was the origin perhaps a reference to when fabsol got mad that you used xerocs character for a period of time?

or is it something different

[placid wadi]

What's funny is the fact that WotG is still pretty well optimized despite all that

[flat folio]

It's not a reference to anything specific
Would be a bit of a dangerous move to give a real negative quotation from something like that publicity in the mod itself

[deft lily]

yeah fair

[pseudo vector]

[halcyon seal]

Remember, WotG is not brought to its knees by any of the fancy shaders, it’s water

(Was water? Idk)

[deft lily]

my pc runs pretty well with wotg

[flat folio]

Mostly idle lag from various edits iirc, particularly one involving the vanilla lighting engine
Most of it got verified with a profiler and patched out

[deft lily]

granted its like
a very good computer. far better then the average.

[placid wadi]

rain in base calamity lags my pc harder than WotG tbh

[flat folio]

This game is cursed when it comes to performance
On one hand you have people with PCs from 1793 running things decently
On the other hand you have people with 3090s having their frames per second registered as seconds per frame at the mere sight of DoG's piddly laser lines

[pseudo vector]

profilers are lowkey insane for optimisation lmao

[deft lily]

true

[pseudo vector]

i profiled BS DoG for jasper since the fireballs were laggy as fuck, and she used the profiling data to fix basically all projectile-related lag issues in calamity

[orchid finch]

something something processors

[deft lily]

potato ahh pcs running 4k 60 fps vs computers with 5090s barely handling 1080 gaming

[west isle]

Can we cut down on how many lasers dog throws out during phase 2 next update 🙏

[deft lily]

those who know

[pseudo vector]

the laser walls are being completely overhauled

[west isle]

I'm fighting the devourer of gods not a wannabe clone trooper

[pseudo vector]

the only boss that still lags nowadays is exos but that's a fundamental design issue with the boss

[orchid finch]

no matter how good your gpu is if you're running like i3-7100 you're obviously gonna see mid performamce

[deft lily]

well yeah
thats called bottleneck

[orchid finch]

I know

[west isle]

For me making it just happen less often would be good enough but I'm not complaining

[deft lily]

running an i3 with like a 4070 tho 💀

[pseudo vector]

this is in the montage so this is okay to show

[deft lily]

or a ryzen 3

(the superior cpu company)

[pseudo vector]

they're now indicated and instantaneous hitscan lasers rather than projectiles

[west isle]

Epic

[pseudo vector]

here's the other pattern in the montage

this is recorded on death mode btw

[orchid finch]

what are those weird pink lasers flying everywhere tho

[placid wadi]

effect when they are overlapping looks really nice tbh

[pseudo vector]

oh that's shadowbolt staff

[orchid finch]

ah

[west isle]

Are the lasers in the middle gonna be moving or sum?

[orchid finch]

I thought you had hyperdeath for some reason

[deft lily]

CD you should rework exos trust... (what could possibly go wrong)

[orchid finch]

rework exo thrusts

[pseudo vector]

here's the uncompressed montage if you guys wanna give it a watch

[wooden blade]

i find it ironic that i didn't lag at all against both avatar and nd but my pc was begging for mercy when i fought inf yharon

[deft lily]

what

[distant raft]

this is because wotg is very well optimised

inf is not

[orchid finch]

gasp

how could you

[distant raft]

see: signus

[deft lily]

fatass dragon

[orchid finch]

now all the Infernum fans will eat your soul

[wooden blade]

big fat chicken nugget

[west isle]

I hate infernum yharon

[pseudo vector]

i don't think they'd disagree with the fact infernum is not that well optimised

[wooden blade]

[orchid finch]

honestly

we need infernum two

[pseudo vector]

we do not

[distant raft]

souls dlc

[wooden blade]

yeah he's ass

[deft lily]

extremely loud incorrect buzzer

[orchid finch]

we do not, yes, this was a joke

[distant raft]

thats the closest youll get

[orchid finch]

do you guys know what a joke is

[deft lily]

10/10 ragebait

[west isle]

Like yeah I love being hit by a projectile that was off screen for 20 seconds that also has a random trajectory

Such fun

[orchid finch]

if you raged at it it's your fault

[dusk bronze]

has anyone isolated the malice code and readded it yet

[pseudo vector]

souls dlc sorta already does it but also when we get around to reworking bosses in base calamity there might not even be a need for an infernum

[orchid finch]

Calamity will become the new Infernum

[wooden blade]

he basically has the issue i got with a lot of inf bosses is the fact that he's a hype moments and aura boss rather than a fun and entertaining one

[deft lily]

this convo seems unproductive now so bye

[west isle]

It's more likely that by the time they are done with reworking all the bosses for the DLC infernum isn't even gonna be compatible with calamity due to it being not updated

[wooden blade]

please stay

i'll give you a cookie

[orchid finch]

Infernum will not be updated to future Cal versions iirc

[pseudo vector]

i'm pretty sure infernum's optimisation issues aren't even the fault of lucille lol

[deft lily]

im lactose intolerant

[coral shuttle]

thats 50% of all convos

[orchid finch]

it'll stay at a certain version and that's that

[gray trench]

Is this a shitpost lmao

[pseudo vector]

yes

[wooden blade]

then a pizza

[orchid finch]

you're not helping it

[wooden blade]

🥲

[flat folio]

Smth like that

[gray trench]

I'm severely lactose intolerant i can make us cookies

[torn cairn]

there's cheese on pizza

[gray trench]

[gray trench]

Very little cheese tbf

[wooden blade]

yeah but this pizza has no cheese

[coral shuttle]

is it truly a shitpost if its actually within a mod
does that not turn it into, a post 🆑

[lone echo]

We should make Deimod 2

[coral shuttle]

that was not the clueless emote

[lone echo]

chlorine

[wooden blade]

and if he's gluten intolerant then there's no gluten

[orchid finch]

pizza with no cheese is not a pizza it's a slab of dough with meat on it

[placid wadi]

and tomato sauce

[orchid finch]

and that

[distant raft]

we put sauce on pizza here sir

[coral shuttle]

youre describing a pie people

[orchid finch]

okay I'm getting too distracted with yall guys

[wooden blade]

akthually it's more of a turk pizza

[orchid finch]

actually true

[dusk bronze]

calamity-pizza-talk

[orchid finch]

anyway goodbye cut I got stuff to do

[lapis oak]

WotG was NOT

[torn cairn]

i don't think there's meat on a pie

[lapis oak]

Well optimized

[torn cairn]

or tomato sauce

[coral shuttle]

meat pies litterally exist.,.,.,

[distant raft]

shepherd's pie

[dusk bronze]

mince raft or something

[wooden blade]

alright that was my intervention of the day, see yall!

[torn cairn]

like the game???

[dusk bronze]

possibly

[flat folio]

Is anything in the year of our lord 2026?

[orchid finch]

a calculator

[flat folio]

All these blasted modders, overusing their shaders...

[orchid finch]

that sounds optimized

(here i am yet again being distracted)

[lapis oak]

2026 not real year

Welcome to 2016

[west isle]

Hell no I don't wanna go back to middle school

[summer shore]

sends you to mid school

school that is mid

[flat folio]

Someone will complain about the calculator being unoptimized and terrible because they're using it on a machine from the 50s iirc

[orchid finch]

what do you mean school can be not mid

[tribal isle]

terraria is literally unplayable without lights and shadows and the calamity texture pack im deadass

[dusk bronze]

might be true

[summer shore]

down here we make our school peak

[orchid finch]

0/10 opinion bruv 🥀

[summer shore]

lights and shadows kinda doodoo

[lone echo]

this 96 year old terraria modder plays terraria the old fashioned way

[distant raft]

terraria is unplayable without 40 different shader mods that are ALL fucking up the engine and making it constantly strobe

[summer shore]

old fashioned (increases non weapon dmage)

[orchid finch]

fuck QoL and resource packs, I am going to rawdog every single playthrough and no one is going to stop me

[flat folio]

My bad!

[tribal isle]

do you have any alternative

[summer shore]

idk

[orchid finch]

yes, no Lights and Shadows, just play the base game

[coral shuttle]

all these WHAT modders

[dusk bronze]

wasn't there one called fancy lighting

[tribal isle]

sounds shit

[west isle]

If I'm not spazzing out on the floor due to the constant light changes then I can't play the game smh

[distant raft]

if its not swapping between pure white and pitch black every frame i'm not playing 🗣️

[dusk bronze]

byeah lights and shadows makes cryo and provi genuinely impossible at day

[coral shuttle]

@summer shore show yourself fiend

[summer shore]

l&s breaks camera tools that's kinda cring I thingk

[tribal isle]

someone uses camera tools?

[summer shore]

mf I was here before you

yes my builds are too big for screenshots

[iron dew]

thats where i go to school

[summer shore]

Cambodia tool helps with that

[flat folio]

The camera is amusingly programmed in Terraria
DrawCapture is basically a near copypaste of the game's central render loop

[summer shore]

do you perhaps go there

At night

[dry whale]

destroys your builds

[coral shuttle]

mmmmmmmm no wrong actually your messages start at x:12 while i was here prior 😎 pwned

[tribal isle]

say that again

[coral shuttle]

your showers mean nothing to me

[distant raft]

"near copypaste" means it wasn't! and for some reason this makes calamity's trees crash the game

[summer shore]

I'm owning blast with shower reacts and charisma

[coral shuttle]

you have NO charisma

[distant raft]

yes trying to take a picture with calamity's trees in it crashes the game this has been a bug for several years

[summer shore]

you only have charismell

[coral shuttle]

said the stinker

[orchid finch]

okay this is too out of hand

[flat folio]

Calamity's specifically or modded trees in general?

idr if Cal does anything special for them

[summer shore]

Go back to pondering the sphere

of the stratus variety

[lone echo]

how/when do they crash the game?

[orchid finch]

@blazing field the chat is going insane

[coral shuttle]

probably just the modded ones because i remember using the camera for normal pictures that included trees

[orchid finch]

nevermind it calmed down

every time

[lone echo]

oh

[dusk bronze]

hey look ancient poiler

now speculate

[lone echo]

how does that even happen

[coral shuttle]

omg eevee

[iron dew]

can we start throwing tomatos at zavarski instead

[summer shore]

maybe

[coral shuttle]

yeah i cant believe this tattletale

[summer shore]

blast deserves it more though

[coral shuttle]

okay thats it youre getting it

[summer shore]

You're getting over it with bennett foddy

[flat folio]

I'm going to have to deduct points for the rendering of the blue outline unfortunately

[summer shore]

Flesh totem became mhage accessory rifht

I forgor

[dusk bronze]

yuh

[orchid finch]

blast this is not heat this is shit

[lapis oak]

This is dead

[coral shuttle]

you dont get to tell me what to do,.,.,.,

[dusk bronze]

you're dead

[orchid finch]

well at the very least don't throw tomatoes at my white tee

[coral shuttle]

is the eevee also dead 🥺

[lapis oak]

yes

both are dead

[flat folio]

The eevee is the reason it's dead
Killed the effect forever

[coral shuttle]

nothing is worth anymore

[lapis oak]

Sunny's gone Blast

no more

[coral shuttle]

😔

[lapis oak]

no one to continues

[lone echo]

so many blue roles
is that role being given out again after fabsol left

[summer shore]

yes

[flat folio]

Democracy is binding

[coral shuttle]

most of the people here had it prior but uh yeah

[summer shore]

merkalto is cd santa

[iron dew]

what if #calamity-update-talk was blue and red

[coral shuttle]

actually just half nvm

[deft lily]

im not cool 😔

[flat folio]

I got nepotism'd in

[orchid finch]

me neither

the uncool duo

[coral shuttle]

i got "yeah youve been tester for a bit whatever"'d in

[deft lily]

real

[lone echo]

i think ive seen like a couple blue roles before that were also in here for at least half a decade

[dusk bronze]

i got merkalto'd in

[lone echo]

not even most of the devs had it

[summer shore]

lucille is probably older than the sun

[flat folio]

Many of the OG cool dudes stopped really being involved here a long time ago

[cunning sequoia]

lucille is the god of a dead universe

[high scaffold]

Brainstorm tomorrow

[iron dew]

i think lucille made the sun

[coral shuttle]

thats technically true

[orchid finch]

noooo anything but that 😭

[placid wadi]

Brainstorm today

[summer shore]

brainstorm in a month

[coral shuttle]

greenneedle update tomorrow

[west isle]

Brainstorm yesterday

[dusk bronze]

brainstorm for $50

[iron dew]

i will actually die if brainstorm is within the next 3 days

[orchid finch]

wait you paid for it?

[dusk bronze]

no

[high scaffold]

Brainstorm too good for me to wait for it for 2 months

[flat folio]

smth like that

[deft lily]

what the fuck

[coral shuttle]

thats not the sun but its close enough

[orchid finch]

spong

[deft lily]

ND's true form

[pseudo vector]

what in the everloving fuck

[coral shuttle]

thats the type of math lucille writes for all the shaders btw

she just sacrifices a few victims for it

[placid wadi]

Is this some kind of Higher College Math visualization for every existing function

[lone echo]

its like a few functions and symbols i think not ALL of them...

[placid wadi]

and wings made off integrals

[coral shuttle]

wingtegrals, i insist

[flat folio]

For it's mid-phase transition it asks you to evaluate this integral to 23 decimal places within 5 seconds and if you fail your player character dies

[deft lily]

😨

[coral shuttle]

oh boy! 1 exp!

[lone echo]

idk i havent taken calculus

[lone echo]

its 1/1 exp it sucks

[placid wadi]

you all remind me of the fact that i have to learn for my integrals exam

and i hate it

[lapis oak]

math or meth

[flat folio]

Math of the Gods

[high scaffold]

Moth

[lapis oak]

both are blue

[dusk bronze]

you are blue

[summer shore]

bath of the gods

[deft lily]

why are you all blue

[west isle]

Mæth

[lapis oak]

I'm buu

[deft lily]

😨

[summer shore]

the 7 blue souls

[iron dew]

secret third option, moth

[flat folio]

CD overpopulation