calamity-update-talk

[fathom girder]

that would beeeee

interesting

[rose laurel]

Gulper Eels Don't Have Arrowheads

[fathom girder]

but idk if that gives devouring vibes

[arctic cliff]

This would be a fucking baller basis for a dog design

[fathom girder]

ocean creature

kanaya's gonna kill you

[vivid hemlock]

pinterest dog... @blazing field

[obtuse hawk]

Planarian DoG but actually the way planarians function is more like EoW or Deus

[arctic cliff]

for instance

[obtuse hawk]

So idk

[rose laurel]

I Don't Think So

[obtuse hawk]

Lmao! Lol!

[arctic cliff]

this fucking thing man

[rose laurel]

I Think That DOG's Design Should Be Textbook "Menacing"

[arctic cliff]

No.

[blazing field]

[dense sundial]

this is exactly what i was getting at earlier except make his gape extend extremely far down his body

[arctic cliff]

Ooo neat idea

[fathom girder]

ocena creachur

[rose laurel]

DOG Playing By The Clichés Works Because He's Trying To Make Himself Scary To Humans

[dense sundial]

and then he can completely distend his body to open that gape as wide as a city block

[vivid hemlock]

cheese explain your creature,,,

[arctic cliff]

in all honesty tho im mostly approaching this through designing the second phase, which i really want to be much more monstrous than his first phase

[rose laurel]

I Also Think That DOG By No Means Should Be Toothless

[arctic cliff]

i havent... figured out how to do that well, but i guess it would have to feel much more regal and "glorious" to look at

[dense sundial]

you could do that with an extremely long gape if he simply kept most of it tucked away in p1

[rose laurel]

Which The Gulper Eel Approach Works Significantly Less When Toothed

[tribal isle]

Why does ares have his guts out

[dense sundial]

like cover it in tendrils or decoration

[arctic cliff]

I think this could work better if his armor phase was his first form and not the second like what HPU was trying to do

[rose laurel]

BTW What I Meant By This Is That DOG Should Be Very Kiki

[obtuse hawk]

No bouba?

[rose laurel]

No Bouba

[wicked temple]

waaaa haiii

[fathom girder]

lord vader

[dense sundial]

this tells me less than what you first said

what's kiki

[wicked temple]

its not cascade 2 hmph

[fathom girder]

am I bouba or kiki

[arctic cliff]

what im trying to say is make DoG based off Zoh Shia

[rose laurel]

Have You Never Heard Of It?

[obtuse hawk]

Think it means sharp in this context

[dense sundial]

no

[rose laurel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouba/kiki_effect

[obtuse hawk]

Bouba is a smoother organic shape while kiki is more sharp and geometric

Yea

Or vice versa

Idk i forgot

[dense sundial]

oh i'm familiar with something like that, just never had a name to put to it

[rose laurel]

When I Say DOG Plays By The Clichés I Mean He Plays By The Clichés Of What Humans Find Imposing And Scary

[dense sundial]

interesting

[frail tapir]

Using pelican eel as an reference

[arctic cliff]

Yeah thats why i was showing this again

[dense sundial]

pelican, huh...

[rose laurel]

He Is Trying Really Hard To Look Cool And Scary

[arctic cliff]

because i was talking about pelican eel as a basis for a DoG design so yeah

[rose laurel]

One Could Say

He Is Edgy

[fathom girder]

DoG is intentionally an edgelord yea

[dense sundial]

this is not serious but what if dog was a heron

[obtuse hawk]

DoG purple gruesome eminence-type face

[rose laurel]

A What?

[fathom girder]

big ol' bird

[dense sundial]

DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT A HERON IS

[obtuse hawk]

Those who bird

[rose laurel]

I Do Not

[arctic cliff]

i mean ive always found pelicans scary

[hushed hazel]

mods? birdpost this woman

[rose laurel]

I Think This Specially Because DOG Isn't Meant To Be Actually Scary

He's Trying Really Hard To Be

But To Someone Who Can Actually Fight Him

He's Not That Imposing

[rose laurel]

I See

[hushed hazel]

to bee fair that is the vast minority of people

[rose laurel]

Exactly

But You As The Player Is Someone Who Can Stand Up To Him

[arctic cliff]

@rose laurel i realized theres a bit of a mental disconnect in this situation
I personally want DoG to actually be scary. I think he fundamentally, even acknowledging that a lot of his reputation is deliberately played up and that hes kinda a bozo, is still quite horrifying

[dense sundial]

herons hunt by standing completely still for possibly hours, in water, staring into it with their slightly downturned eyes

[arctic cliff]

you seemingly have a different idea tho

[rose laurel]

Honesty I Think That DOG's Armor Should Be Absurdly Over The Top

Like

[dense sundial]

then they tense their necks and thrust forward like a bullet. they can impale clean through a fish, which is a solid block of muscle, mind you

[dull heart]

Ok

[rose laurel]

Comical Amounts Of Spikes, Giant Antlers Riddled With Skulls, Lots Of Red And Black

[dull heart]

Too late there's already assets made

[lapis oak]

What stopping you

[arctic cliff]

so a late-stage frontier monster

[rose laurel]

The Type Of Skin You Would See A 13 Year Old Wearing On A Video Game If They Could

[arctic cliff]

actual design

[halcyon seal]

I love dinosaurs

[arctic cliff]

when people complain about mh frontier monsters being spiky, this is what they mean

[rose laurel]

And Then Beneath The Armor DOG Looks Relatively Dumb And Kinda Stupid But Has Specific Elements That Can Freak You Out

Like Lunging His Jaw At You

[dense sundial]

🗣️ 🔥

[vivid hemlock]

wholesome

[dense sundial]

iirc herons specifically have some little levers on their vertebrae that can attach extra muscle, like a sling

tis how they strike so hard

[rose laurel]

I Can't Think Of Any Example For This Right Now Sadly

[arctic cliff]

kanaya you cant try to turn every popular boss into frauds except for provi man

[halcyon seal]

I know it’s brought up pretty frequently but

[dense sundial]

i'm sorry this is completely and utterly off topic i just have an addiction to herons

[arctic cliff]

also no i do not want dog to look lame, man

[rose laurel]

I Don't Think DOG Should Look Lame

I Don't Want A Stupid Snail

I Want Something That You Look At And Think

"This is the Devourer of Gods?"

[dense sundial]

i could see naked dog looking less overtly threatening than his armor, but with more of a sinister/uncanny element

[rose laurel]

Basically I Want Something That Does Not Live Up To The Stories

[arctic cliff]

imma be real
That is not the question you want players to ask

[halcyon seal]

I think it’d be cool if dog was just some fuckin creature under the armor

[fathom girder]

you break the armor and it's just a squirrel

[dense sundial]

like hiding really wide or extensible jaws, or resembling a human face like iban's does

[halcyon seal]

Trojan Squirrel really got some upgrades

[fathom girder]

Trojan squirrel EX

[hushed hazel]

pinterest creature......

[rose laurel]

It Very Much Is Though

[halcyon seal]

Maybe it’s got one of those freaky ass extendable mouths like that one shark

Yk the one right

[dense sundial]

goblin shark?

[fathom girder]

It's THE devourer of gods

[halcyon seal]

Yeah

[fathom girder]

like the first reaction should be "oh shit that's THE GUY"

[rose laurel]

DOG Is Meant To Be A Fraud But Not In A "Look at this dumbass he's so fucking weak and lame compared to what he gasses himself up to be"

[hushed hazel]

(creature in question

[halcyon seal]

Then introduce him armored up

[vivid hemlock]

leon i knew you were the goat

[rose laurel]

He's A Fraud In The "He puts up a literal mask to make himself feel a lot grander than he really is"

[halcyon seal]

What the hell am I looking at

[dense sundial]

actually, pretty much all fish have extensible jaws, it's just that goblin sharks have a really dramatic version of that

but yeah

[fathom girder]

but no

[hushed hazel]

pinterest creature

[fathom girder]

dog is complicated...

[arctic cliff]

people are going to ask that question not because of storytelling, they're gonna ask that because they will wonder why the devs didnt make him look cool

[iron dew]

its truly amazing what squirrels can build with enough time...

[halcyon seal]

Goblin sharks look coolest doing it so they’re the only ones that matter Actually

[fathom girder]

Doze can explain DoG pretty well

[tribal isle]

How do we know he ate anyone if he doesn’t do it on screen

[dense sundial]

this is all without having any idea what our imaginary design is executed

[halcyon seal]

He did eat someone, my fucking NPCs

[arctic cliff]

that said i don't mind if he's one of those seemingly simple creatures that then open up their body into horrifyingly large mouths

if thats the case then i wouldnt mind so much

[dense sundial]

• Yeah!

[tribal isle]

Fnaf reference

[dense sundial]

das what im sayin!

[arctic cliff]

ya

[rose laurel]

If They Are Asking That Question They Are Missing The Point Of The Character

[proper raptor]

So DOG is a chunibyou?

[dense sundial]

a huh

[rose laurel]

A What?

[arctic cliff]

a poorly executed design can risk causing people to miss The Point Of The Character

[dense sundial]

also hi olivia from paper mario the origami king

[proper raptor]

It’s essentially a middle schooler who has delusions of grandeur

[rose laurel]

And I Am Assuming A Design That Is Not Poorly Executed

[tribal isle]

Just say 8th grader syndrome dude

[rose laurel]

DOG's Entire Point Is That He Makes Himself Up To Be A Lot More Than He Actually Is

The Design Should Reflect That He's Not That Cool

[tribal isle]

Wouldn’t he compensate that by looking cool

[rose laurel]

Yes

That's What The Armor Is For

[dull heart]

I know what dog design should be

[arctic cliff]

you also gotta factor in that people really want a cool dog fight too. i think if you forget that, then you run the risk of people bieng like, "This is what the devs did with Mr. Calamity? That's so lame!"

[halcyon seal]

I think the Trojan squirrel thing is best

[fierce hearth]

DoG should present an air of vanity and desperation, you should not look at DoG and see a "powerful, confident and calculated master of his own power." He should be overcompensating despite his monumental status. At least unless they retcon his story

[tribal isle]

Why does he have socks on

[halcyon seal]

A CATGIRL DOES NOT FEAR DEATH!

[spark kiln]

israeli dog

[barren nacelle]

DoG says a slur on stream and gets vanished to Kick

[rose laurel]

A Design That Makes DOG Look Lamer Than He Sounds Like Doesn't Mean That The Fight Too Would Be Lame

You Are Kinda Taking All That I Said To Vast Extremes

[dense sundial]

yharim activates dog's shock collar on stream

[rose laurel]

I Said

[dull heart]

I need to make femboy dog mod

[halcyon seal]

I think ideally dog is a guy who can talk shit and back it up, but not back it up that hard

[arctic cliff]

i think i just prefer an aurafarming dog over a conniving dog

[fierce hearth]

How does his anatomy work for this

[dense sundial]

it doesn't

[dull heart]

it does

[rose laurel]

DOG's Design Should Make You Look At Him And Say "that's the Devourer of Gods?"

[fierce hearth]

I want to know Doze's idea

[rose laurel]

Not

[dull heart]

Look at the image I just sent

[rose laurel]

"DOG Should Be A Lame Bitchass Motherfucker"

[fierce hearth]

Oh I figured you'd push it further

[dull heart]

@neat dock where did you get the femboy dog image from originally

[rose laurel]

DOG Being Kinda Lame Doesn't Mean He Can't Aurafarm

Those Ideas Are Not Mutually Exclusive

[arctic cliff]

fair

[fierce hearth]

DoG can both look powerful and look like he needs chat to hype him up or he'll piss himself. These are actually compatible ideas

[rose laurel]

Specially With A Fight Progression That Start With The Armor

[tribal isle]

so dog is ltg

[rose laurel]

Which I Find To Be More Narratively Fulfilling

[halcyon seal]

What if dog’s armor is actually way too heavy for him in phase 1 to explain why he’s slower

[fierce hearth]

He literally spends phase 1 underestimating you to stroke his own ego

[arctic cliff]

i think im just too oldgen pilled (I really miss the aura of dog coming into his second phase with a bigger sprite that looks like this)

[halcyon seal]

He wears it to LOOK threatening, not to BE threatening

[tribal isle]

How did draedon agree to add the gemstones to his armor

[arctic cliff]

like when i first saw the video of someone doing the rework that introduced the 2nd form of dog, i was actually so pogged

[halcyon seal]

Aura

[fierce hearth]

Draedon wifeguy behavior idk

[tribal isle]

poggies

[arctic cliff]

i really liked this sprite, even though its so outdated and flawed

i dont think ive seen any redesign of dog come close to replicating the absurd sharpness of this

[fierce hearth]

The... edginess?

[arctic cliff]

CORRECT

[fierce hearth]

Edgelord DoG going onto Newgrounds to play Pico games

The contents of which I cannot say here due to rules

[halcyon seal]

Edgelord DoG setting a trash can on fire outside a Dillards and putting revolutionary in his bio

[arctic cliff]

i think the takeaway from this discussion is that even despite HPU dog's probable demise, people are going to still argue over what dog should look like

in all honesty he needs to look like this but pourple

[tribal isle]

That’s noxus

[fathom girder]

I'm just gonna default to whatever the devs think he should be

cuz guess what

the devs get to decide

[neat dock]

you

[hasty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-clash-golem-sneaky-golem-sneaky-golem-in-the-pocket-gif-2425767250376705080

[dull heart]

what

[fathom girder]

oh hi doze

[hasty hawk]

DoG resprite

[neat dock]

if its the one im thinking of

you

[dull heart]

where did I get it from then 😭

dang it

[neat dock]

the twitch streamer one right

[dull heart]

yeah

[terse dew]

The what

[neat dock]

yeah i got it from you lol

[hasty hawk]

aint that posted constantly in the reddit?

[dull heart]

This one?

[tribal isle]

If dog is getting a new design is the big dog sprite dead

[neat dock]

yds

[dull heart]

idk i dont use the reddit

[neat dock]

same

[dull heart]

actually i do now

but it hasn't been posted recently

[terse dew]

they should give me owner of the calamity reddit so I can delete it

[fathom girder]

this sucks

[terse dew]

again

[fathom girder]

wait you WHAT

and they brought it back???

are they insane why would anyone do that

[hasty hawk]

if Heart finished it before leaving there’s a chance it could be used

If no then its dead

[arctic cliff]

reddit will replace the moderators if they literally do not do anything for 3 months

since that happened with red nation, it was brought back

[hasty hawk]

its a necessary evil to prevent shit like last time

[dull heart]

it's not finished but either way i don't think anyone on the team really actually wants to use it

[fathom girder]

ugh

[hasty hawk]

as expected

[spark kiln]

what are u guys talking about

[hasty hawk]

anyways now the sprite hell falls to whomever wants to pick it up

[terse dew]

the cal reddit was nuked a few years back

[hasty hawk]

We do not talk about the Reddit

[terse dew]

I remember I was at a funeral when it happened

[hasty hawk]

oh I guess we are now

[fathom girder]

were you at the subreddit's funeral

[terse dew]

No

[arctic cliff]

also, im pretty sure the whole nuking was kinda sus anyhow because of messy business with fab and all

[vestal osprey]

It did?

[dull heart]

do i make femboy dog mod to go along with thanatowos hmm

[terse dew]

It was for a kid my age

[spark kiln]

the subreddit has been a thing for ages

[fathom girder]

oh

[arctic cliff]

not sure if it was true or not but yeah

[terse dew]

Who I went to school with

[arctic cliff]

it was kinda stinky

[fathom girder]

a shame

[dull heart]

femboy dog with moving mandibles....

[lone echo]

it was revived like a year or two later

it got reddit requested

[neat dock]

combine them

[arctic cliff]

also im pretty sure someone immediately created another subreddit for calamity so ya

[hasty hawk]

a main issue is that people started to witch hunt other devs for nothingburger changes or changes that Fab did

[hasty hawk]

and it was a huge fucking mess

[arctic cliff]

now that. i cant condone. it was shit man

[lone echo]

idrr i think it had to do with fabsol though?

[hasty hawk]

especially considering who moderated it

[terse dew]

I got DMs from people because I posted on it like a year prior

[lone echo]

the owner of the subreddit (unafilliated with the cal dev team) shut the sub down entirely on their own volition

[vestal osprey]

Wait was this an older calamity subreddit?

[terse dew]

Then I turned off DMs everywhere

😊

[arctic cliff]

i dont really check the sub anymore these days, i only recently did a post and that was just a compilation of cursed amidias images

[vestal osprey]

Cause I still see it up on reddit

[hasty hawk]

Fab added defense dmg (overtuned) and people were not happy iirc

[lone echo]

no it was after that

there was reddit posts shitting on fabsol across r/CalamityMod and r/Terraria because he was an asshole in calmain a couple years earlier

[arctic cliff]

Iirc he nerfed defense from alcohols and other stuff and that was what cause the enshattening

[hasty hawk]

r/CalamityMod is the og Cal reddit

we do not talk about the other one

[vestal osprey]

Who moderated it

[lone echo]

why
it just became a semi infernum subreddit

[hasty hawk]

A fucking groomer

[obtuse hawk]

Ofc bruh

[lone echo]

who moderated it i dont think ive ever checked the mods of r/CalamityMod_

[terse dew]

old calamity community member

[hasty hawk]

hopefully they kicked her by now

[terse dew]

like from 2016

[lone echo]

which one

[hasty hawk]

huh they kicked her

or i dont remember her user

pretty sure they kicked her

[lone echo]

who

[deft lily]

are we still talking about DoG lmao

[arctic cliff]

no we're talking about red nation

[deft lily]

...okay

anyways

brainstorm never

[tribal isle]

Dog should look like astel from Elden ring

[deft lily]

(i eated it)

[hard copper]

Wing of Astel is best weapon ngl

[hasty hawk]

When Brainstorm comes and I have free time I will try to break the game as rogue for old times sake

[arctic cliff]

naturalborn of the distortion

[hasty hawk]

From being a dev to being a pain in the ass for devs

#1178515062030348308 will not be spared

[vestal osprey]

Oh god

Alot of rouge weapons are getting reworked

[deft lily]

if i do a playthrough of brainstorm i'll prob just go melee.

other classes never really interested me.

🤷‍♂️

[lone echo]

speaking of calamity reddit mods everquartz is still an r/calamitymod mod despite not being active on reddit at all anymore

[hasty hawk]

Not enough (we cant have Rogue Reworks due to the Summoner shaped elephant in the room)

[hasty hawk]

r

[arctic cliff]

oh boy

[vestal osprey]

Im summoner main

[arctic cliff]

that is. worrying

[neat dock]

hi garbo

[deft lily]

average reddit moderator

[hasty hawk]

Would have reworked more if I could while I was dev but it is what it is

[arctic cliff]

i dont know what everquartz does nowadays, but this kinda situation where theres an inactive mod doesnt usually end well

[dull heart]

everquartz left cal community like 2 years ago

[arctic cliff]

fortunately inactive mods now apparently lose power but yeah

[lone echo]

i forogt who owns the reddit

[arctic cliff]

that explains things

[deft lily]

2 years ago, damn

[lone echo]

i think it was everquartz initially then she gave it to cei or was it always cei

[hasty hawk]

Probably Cei

[lone echo]

i think cei owns the reddit

[dull heart]

i should own the reddit (please no)

[deft lily]

i should own the reddit so i can fucking delete it 2 seconds after

[terse dew]

they should give it to me so I can delete it

[neat dock]

The monkey's paw curls.

[arctic cliff]

i remember doing one of those brantsteele hunger games but with calamity, thorium and shadows of abaddon bosses, and everquartz was betting on a cute nebula girl to win. she did not survive.

[terse dew]

I think this is a really good idea

[fathom girder]

You could turn it into r/stormweaver, doze

wouldn't that be cool

[hollow harness]

great minds think alike they say

[lone echo]

you mean nuba?

[dull heart]

owning the reddit is the downside what would the monkey's paw even do

[neat dock]

yeah that is the downside

[lone echo]

you own the reddit BUT you have brain cancer

[arctic cliff]

if you gave me control over red nation id turn it into an amidas cult

[neat dock]

14 yo genie

[dull heart]

this is an upside (less time owning the reddit since you'll die)

[tribal isle]

I should own Reddit to delete all of it

[arctic cliff]

what would the reaction to that even be

[deft lily]

you own the reddit but your paralyzed

idfk

[dull heart]

[arctic cliff]

OH MY GOD

THERES ALREADY AN EMOTE LMAO

[deft lily]

the horror

[neat dock]

does anyone have the image for this i needit

[tribal isle]

You own Reddit to delete it but you become like the general Reddit user and you don’t wanna delete it

[terse dew]

you now post on r funny

[lone echo]

spez has pretty infamously edited comments shitting on him before he might do it at the next r/place next year after reddit makes another shitty decision and the entire place canvas is covered in a giant FUCK SPEZ like last time

[arctic cliff]

anyhow i gotta turn this into a variant now

[deft lily]

a variant?

what

[hasty hawk]

having nitro again is fun (epic games is giving away free nitro)

[arctic cliff]

an amidias variant

[deft lily]

oh

[arctic cliff]

but his brain is chomped on

[lone echo]

did you get the harry potter chocolate frog back bling in fortnite

its geoff keighleys favorite back bling

[hasty hawk]

no

could get it since its free i guess

[hasty hawk]

even tho i dont play fortnite

[tribal isle]

Dude this year epic games free games for new year were so shitty

[neat dock]

thank you

[hasty hawk]

Methaphor Refantazio (I MISSED IT DUE TO PARTYING)

[fathom girder]

happy to help

[deft lily]

anybody that plays fortnite i automatically assume has the emotional capacity of a 9 year old

[hasty hawk]

and thats it lol

[fathom girder]

The average person on the internet is 14 years old

I go off of that statistic

[lone echo]

whens the brainstorm update?

[fathom girder]

soonish

[lone echo]

whats that about

[deft lily]

never
i eated it

[neat dock]

basically

[lone echo]

is it like before the sso part 1 out of 2515151 update

[neat dock]

its sso

but without sunken sea

[fathom girder]

projected time is sometime this month or next month

SSO only has 2 parts

which may be converged into one part now that brainstorm is a thing

who knows

I'm spitballing here lul

[neat dock]

so its the non-sunken sea sso stuff

[lone echo]

so are we finally getting eutrophic glass walls after like 3 years

[neat dock]

[potent elbow]

What colors are going to be used for the difficulties on the wiki post-Brainstorm?

[tribal isle]

idk

[potent elbow]

Because these are kinda... weird.

[misty wyvern]

It's satanist uhc

[fathom girder]

There were certainly be less colors

[neat dock]

its probably just goign to be the same but the expert death one disappears

[potent elbow]

I swear there's a color used for Master Death Mode rn, but I can't find it...

[lone echo]

also calamity update this month? i better get back to my wotg world

[neat dock]

[lone echo]

projected to be this month (so at least 6 months)

[dull heart]

BS Today-$50

[potent elbow]

I don't even remember what it was.

[lone echo]

dont drop it today

[tribal isle]

Dude I gotta finish my 8th infernum playthrough before infernum becomes unplayable

[dull heart]

no like there's an auric beta of the update avaliable right now

[lone echo]

ill give you $51 to NOT drop it today

[deft lily]

infernum 🤢

[neat dock]

auric beta??? then how do peopel tou

[dull heart]

what

[deft lily]

[lone echo]

is the auric beta for auric patreon users

[dull heart]

yes

which costs $50

hence Today-$50

[lone echo]

too broke for that im not a target of luigi yet

[deft lily]

ok

anyways

sso never

[tribal isle]

sso in

[potent elbow]

What's all this talk about Malice DoG, anyway? I thought Malice Mode was gonna be purely aesthetic.

[deft lily]

malice mode is just the new name for legendary death mode iirc, as a joke.

and people for some reason are pissy about that iirc

[grave geyser]

??

[lone echo]

whos pissy about that lmao

[deft lily]

back read and find out

there was a convo about it earlier idk 🤷‍♂️

[shut ridge]

What does auric beta mean

[grave geyser]

auric tier donors get access to a beta build of the update right now

[deft lily]

^

[shut ridge]

holy shit

[tropic jolt]

brainstorm $50

[sinful dagger]

I’m guessing Master will just be blue and the rest will stay the same

[tropic jolt]

blue?

[sinful dagger]

On the wiki, Revengeance is already red

Legendary is technically green

But not on there

[lean relic]

got damn Polterghast

[lyric trellis]

Some health

[still bluff]

Polterghast moment

[cobalt wharf]

one MILLION souls

[autumn compass]

7 different health values 🔥

[potent elbow]

||Don't mind me just now remembering that FTW has further changes beyond Master/Death Mode... ||

[quick trout]

ggs

i beat yharon

wheres that gp guy

gotta thank him

[hasty tangle]

wrong channel but you're welcome

[dull heart]

Hi

[dull heart]

It is - malice is identical to FTW Death, but with the Legendary mode stat boosts

[fathom girder]

It's simply named that to spite a certain someone

[iron dew]

hi doze

[deft lily]

? who

[fathom girder]

fab sole

[deft lily]

-# wasn't fabsol the one who advocated for malice to exist anyway

[fathom girder]

yes that's the

yeah

but it fucking sucked

but now it doesn't

[blazing field]

I dunno if it's meant to be a spite thing i think its more so that its just ufnny

[deft lily]

^

[hasty tangle]

but confusing

[deft lily]

not sure why theres this recurring theme of "oh the devs only did (x) to spite fabsol"

[blazing field]

Doing that sort of petty thing out of spite would be very fabsolpilled if anything

[blazing field]

It makes enough sense when put with how the other difficulties work but yeah it's a bit confusing

Likely would be less confusing if it has an actual ingame display

Though also

It being called Malice might lead to people taking it more seriously

And viewing it as like

an actual 3rd difficulty

Rather than the joke it's meant to be

And then people ask devs to balance malice or whatever even thouhg it's not meant to be balanced bla bla bla

[deft lily]

like cool! fabsol sucks.

let him disappear and stop giving him attention.

[blazing field]

It's already something that happens sometime now with people

but it'd probably be worse in this case

[hasty tangle]

he was too important to the mod for too long

ppl arent gonna stop talking about him any time soon

[deft lily]

from a development perspective no shit, but like

anything outside of that is beating a dead horse

[hasty tangle]

(keep in mind that important =/= good)

[hasty tangle]

ngl im already kinda leaning toward taking it more seriously once bs drops

[deft lily]

idk man its kinda getting old looking in this server and see people shitting on him 😭

like i wish people would lay it off for awhile

[blazing field]

Yea but i assume you wouldn't expect devs to actually balance it properly or put too much effort on it

is what i mean

[fathom girder]

hehehehhehhehehheheh horse

[hasty tangle]

they wont

[blazing field]

People might think it's meant to be an actual difficulty iwht as much balancing and effort put into it as the 2 other ones

Which some people are kinda treat it like that even if it's not meant to be but it's fairly rare from what ive seen

[deft lily]

okay funny man.

[deft lily]

which makes them part of the problem imo but to each their own ig.

[hasty tangle]

meh

hes a convenient scapegoat for any shortcomings in the mod

[terse dew]

merkalto hasn't done anything to spite Fabsol

[hasty tangle]

hopefully with bs making a good chunk of them less prevalent he wont need to be talked about as much

[fathom girder]

he's also a bad person so um

fabsol good scapegote

[gloomy grove]

its kind of annoying to accredit anything they do to "spiting fabsol"

[deft lily]

^

[hasty tangle]

i meant for the playerbase

[gloomy grove]

but then again this community is known to not let anything go

[hasty tangle]

not the devs

[terse dew]

In 4 years from now in 2030 we will have people asking in cmt where Dokuro is

[hasty tangle]

yeah, we definitely will

[gloomy grove]

raise that to 2040

dokuro being talked about around here like the 10 commandments

[blazing field]

I'd like to believe devs generally wouldnt do that sort of thing anywas because as i said earlier

Adding stuff just to spite someone

is in of itself super fabsolpilled

[gloomy grove]

im with you cuz the devs know better

[terse dew]

In 2030 there will be people in this server that were born after the mod was created

[hasty tangle]

its not even necessarily that the community hasnt let go, but moreso that some ppl just havent kept up with the mod in ages

[terse dew]

☹️

[gloomy grove]

dreadful

[deft lily]

yeah...

[gloomy grove]

this one im fine with

but if you are informed yet keep bringing it up afterwards then thats kind of ehh

[wise bolt]

the unknower

[terse dew]

The mysterious

[hasty tangle]

hopefully bs will make it less necessary to bring up specifically fab

[gloomy grove]

the mystery man

[deft lily]

which icl ive been seeing this a lot lately.

😓

[hasty tangle]

as for dokuro most of the ppl asking about him seem to just be ppl not in the loop

[gloomy grove]

ye

[wide nova]

calamity-dooming-talk

[hasty tangle]

byeah fab's recency + importance pretty much ensures he will continue to be discussed for a good while longer

[gloomy grove]

we need to turn this into calamity-hopeful-talk

[hasty tangle]

im pretty hopeful about bs

[terse dew]

calamity mod will exist in the year 2030

[deft lily]

sadly.

[terse dew]

that is both #awesome and #notawesome

[deft lily]

I wish people would move on.

[gloomy grove]

yeah me too i got a bunch of friends that havent touched the game in a year be pretty excited about it

[molten grove]

any calamity fan that is 9 years old is younger than the mod

[deft lily]

true

[gloomy grove]

insane thought to have ngl

[molten grove]

messed up to think about like, a random elementary schooler who likes the mod
being younger than the mod itself

[gloomy grove]

people born in 2020 can form thoughts

[terse dew]

nope

only merkalto can do that

[shut ridge]

How old actually is the mod now

[deft lily]

9 and a half.

something like that

[grave geyser]

approaching 10

[molten grove]

brain rot stunted any pre-existing standards for brain development im afraid
*= 1.25f threshold

[shut ridge]

pro

[dull heart]

i have a spoiler that i don't think anyone will understand

[misty wren]

its music quick somebody transcribe it

[dull heart]

incorrect

it is a sprite that will be used in game for a notable feature

[deft lily]

hmm

[dull heart]

and that is not obfuscated, that's the sprite exactly as it goes into the files

[fathom girder]

A feature, you say

surely alcohol brewing is gonna be in brainstorm

[iron dew]

incomprehensible

[fathom girder]

no no it's steam from brewing

and um

it only uses part of the spritesheet obv

[dull heart]

that entire spritesheet is used

[fathom girder]

is it related to brewing

[dull heart]

no

[fathom girder]

fug

[dull heart]

it's more notable than that

anyway bye it is time for me to do other things

[fathom girder]

stealth bar revamp or perhaps adrenaline/rage meter maybe...

[dull heart]

all i will say more is it will be very cool

[fathom girder]

shit man that's gonna be all of brainstorm

[dull heart]

this probably will not make it to brainstorm

[fathom girder]

that narrows it down not at all

oh

okay that helps uhhhhhhhhh

[dull heart]

if it did that'd be crazy

[fathom girder]

oh it's that much of a thing is it

[dull heart]

we're at the point of postponing most feature merges until post-release of brainstorm

like The Pointer i showed earlier is finished and PR approved, but not being merged until after brainstorm

[fathom girder]

I don't remember any details about new mechanics so I'm completely lost there

oh wait, are there gonna be minor patches after brainstorm before SSO? or is that still way up in the air

[dull heart]

dunno

not even talked about

[dull heart]

i wouldn't call it a new mechanic tbh

just something that'll take time to finish and make polished

[fathom girder]

I see

is it perhaps related to arsenal armor

[dull heart]

no

[fathom girder]

I got no clue then

[rare tinsel]

is this weapon VFX?

[dull heart]

no

not item related at all

[rare tinsel]

aww

is this missingno

[dull heart]

no

[severe coral]

Hmm

[iron dew]

i think it's

[dull heart]

idk what this is but no

[cunning sequoia]

swoon

[severe coral]

So it's not some weird motion blur slash

[dull heart]

correct

[fathom girder]

It's for a new feature that won't be releasing in brainstorm

[severe coral]

It's not some weird binary code shit right?

It's a sprite?

[dull heart]

yes

[sinful dagger]

Given that expert/master will be selectable using the item, will Legendary/malice also be selectable? Or will that just be the particular seeds where everything is shifted up?

[dull heart]

yes they will be able to be selected, only when on ftw though

[woeful yarrow]

AAA

The brainstorm update

[severe coral]

It looks like uhh, like door outlines like if you hover over something it's the outline perhaps

[fathom girder]

It's a rather vague spoiler

[woeful yarrow]

Is gonna be on terraria 1.4.4 or 1.4.5?

[fathom girder]

but outlines would make sense maybe?

[dull heart]

selector on normal worlds looks like

classic
expert - rev
master - death

on FTW worlds:

expert - rev
master - death
legendary - malice

fine i guess i should give a hint on that spoiler

actually

idek if i can

[severe coral]

The worst part is it's dimensioned like a spritesheet but like

[fathom girder]

It's gonna be used directly as it is

according to zoze

[dull heart]

well

it is a spritesheet

[severe coral]

I can't chop it cleanly into separate frames 🤔

[woeful yarrow]

.

[dull heart]

1.4.4

[woeful yarrow]

Oh

Make sense

[dull heart]

1.4.5 won't update for tmod for months

[severe coral]

Brainstorm and 1.4.5 are gonna be very close

[woeful yarrow]

Shit!

[fathom girder]

that's just how it is

[severe coral]

But tMod has to catch up because uhh all the new vanilla spaghetti has to be eaten by tMod contribs

[fathom girder]

tmod takes awhile to update to major updates that terraria does

[dull heart]

okay good

here's a hint on the spoiler

(255, 240, 251)
(241, 182, 188)
(219, 134, 142)
(223, 112, 123)
(223, 80, 94)
(213, 68, 87)
(187, 46, 73)
(171, 31, 64)
(151,22,55)
(113, 0, 34)

[woeful yarrow]

Hmmm

[fathom girder]

rgb colors

[woeful yarrow]

68 instead of shit 67

[severe coral]

Bro I don't wanna type all that shit

wtv

[dull heart]

and an alternate hint
(240, 254, 255)
(182, 202, 241)
(134, 162, 219)
(112, 149, 223)
(80, 127, 223)
(68, 121, 213)
(46, 106, 187)
(37, 97, 171)
(22, 85, 151)
(0, 60, 113)

[fathom girder]

So it's a rainbow gradient

[dull heart]

no

[fathom girder]

fuck

but it's COLORS

[blazing field]

Coordinates?

[severe coral]

Nah nah nah

[fathom girder]

it can't be coords

[severe coral]

Cuz they're all shifted

[dry whale]

it's something that will be on the game

clearly

[fathom girder]

it's very much so rgbs because the images are complete white

[dull heart]

i wonder if anyone will piece it together

[dry whale]

is this some vfx of some attack

[fathom girder]

so maybe it's part of aaaaaaaaaa new arsenal stuff

[dry whale]

of a boss

[fathom girder]

ooh it could be part of a gun

[dull heart]

my bet's on kiri, vanillin, or orios figuring it out

[fathom girder]

they just know

[distant raft]

hmmmmm

[dry whale]

all my bets go to vanillin

[severe coral]

I am
Creating a palette

[distant raft]

mmmm

[severe coral]

Very pretty pink

[distant raft]

if i had to guess its something to do with stratus shaders

[fathom girder]

once we know what those rgbs are

we can confirm or deny that

stratus is mostly white and blue

[distant raft]

lightspeed then maybe

[fathom girder]

but it's part of an upcoming feature that won't be in brainstorm, remember

[distant raft]

oh,.......

fuck

[fathom girder]

or at least likely won't be in brainstorm

yeah

[distant raft]

mmmmm

[blazing field]

So not really in chanfelogs

[dry whale]

oh

[distant raft]

i'm assuming this is something that hasnt been patreon revealed too

[dry whale]

amidias' sprite

[fathom girder]

likely just a part of a whole, basically

[dry whale]

tomorrow is another day

[fathom girder]

Ooh, new guess

It's a UI sprite that'll be used for the new lore system

cuz you'll be given what is basically a magical stone tablet phone

and yharim will communicate to you through it

this could be part of the UI for that

[dry whale]

yharphone

[fathom girder]

the feature will replace the lore things that bosses drop

devs have chatted about it before

that's my current guess

[severe coral]

THE COLOURS
WHAT DO THEY MEAN

[dull heart]

the lore ui has had 0 work begun on it

[dry whale]

I know, I am a lore person

[fathom girder]

grrr

[dry whale]

slime god

[fathom girder]

Oh, red and blue

okay thanks for clearing that up

POLICE OFFICERS IN CALAMITY MOD

[dry whale]

THE COPS

[severe coral]

Well what specific palette do these look like

Uhh

[fathom girder]

THE FUCKEN COPS GOING AFTER MY ALCERHOLS

[distant raft]

hjmmmmmmm

[severe coral]

Oh uh life and mana?

[woeful yarrow]

0,22,37,46,60,68,80,85,97,106,112,113,121,127,134,149,151,171,182,187,202,213,219,223,240,241,254,255

[blazing field]

Slime god

[fathom girder]

oh yeah

[blazing field]

?

[fathom girder]

those would be health and mana

[dry whale]

no I already said that

[fathom girder]

Let's cross reference that with the spritesheet

[blazing field]

Health and msna makes sense yeah

[dry whale]

dont steal my guess

[fathom girder]

replying so people can look at it again

[polar tide]

sorry gotta take this mf yharim callin me

[terse dew]

This is Wikipedia US elections precinct colors for non-presidental elections

😐

[severe coral]

Wait yeah no it's just incorrectly exported lemme make this an actual artwork rq

[woeful yarrow]

Reaver set

[fathom girder]

The issue I have is that the spritesheet looks like it would be highlights on weapons

like

the entire bottom half looks like highlights for swords

but that can't be right

cuz that's not really a feature

[woeful yarrow]

The abyss map

[dull heart]

this is entertaining

[fathom girder]

It COULD be something to do with a vfx slash overhaul with melee weapons but like

that's hyper specific

but it IS a rather large feature

[terse dew]

it might be an imposter

[distant raft]

next thing you know he's gonna say this was for nothing and it was just funny to watch

[dull heart]

no it's real

but i mostly sent it because it would be funny to watch

[fathom girder]

oh wait, it could be a generation map...

shit idk how that works

[dull heart]

no it's a sprite

or spritemap or whatever

[fathom girder]

is it for the laser pointer

[dull heart]

no

[fathom girder]

I hate NOT KNOWING

[dull heart]

just figure it out

[fathom girder]

THERE'S SO MANY THINGS IT COULD BE

[woeful yarrow]

Hmmm

[dull heart]

maybe vrz will figure it out

[woeful yarrow]

The alternative hint is for change log 🙂

[fathom girder]

has this EVER been discussed or hinted at here prior

would you know

[woeful yarrow]

The numbers are for changelog right?

[dull heart]

it has

[fathom girder]

guh

[dull heart]

i checked to see what was public on the doc before i gave the colors

[fathom girder]

Given it's on the doc

yeah I could see orios or kiri figuring it out

I'm not gonna do that research though no thanks

[severe coral]

What in the fuck is this supposed to be

[fathom girder]

wait is it a menu background swap

[woeful yarrow]

Hold up

[severe coral]

Why is it spoiler

[fathom girder]

wait what

where did you find that

is that in the doc??

[severe coral]

Looks like rage bar or health bar of some kind or a resource meter

I fucking made it

[fathom girder]

with the spritesheet and colors???

[woeful yarrow]

Let me open my phone to see what are in these numbers in changelog

[dull heart]

they put together the 10 rows with the 10 colors on top of each other

[severe coral]

Out of the spritesheet they said weren't a sheet and the numbers ye

[fathom girder]

ooooooooooooooooh you're onto something then

[severe coral]

Yeah except you exported the white image at 238 which compressed to 119 so I was tweaking thinking it was indivisible by 10

[fathom girder]

is this related to the murasaa rework

[dull heart]

correct!

[severe coral]

That was some 11/10 ragebait

[fathom girder]

Okay so resource bar

[dull heart]

it is indivisble by 10 bc there's a 2px gap between every frame

[severe coral]

Yeah noticed I could crop the bottom pixel

[fathom girder]

Resource bar, for a feature that won't exist until after brainstorm

[severe coral]

OHHHhhh right cuz

[fathom girder]

that's both red and blue

What could that be

[dull heart]

who said it's only red or blue

[fathom girder]

ah

Is it special colors per class

red for melee, blue for summoner or whatever

[buoyant pulsar]

oh i know what the sprites are

[fathom girder]

but why would there be a resource for that

[buoyant pulsar]

they're highlights for the different hp bars

[severe coral]

What's these shades of red and blue specifically I'm tryna like uhh think of all the red and blue and red-and-blue things

[buoyant pulsar]

or whatever bar

but the sprites are like light shines for em i think

[dull heart]

this thing has a vanilla equivalent that also has red and rarely blue

[severe coral]

It also has those uhh gaps so it's probably something with phases or some incremental system

[woeful yarrow]

Hmmm

[fathom girder]

?????????????????????????????????????????????

[buoyant pulsar]

hp and mana bars

[woeful yarrow]

No number 0 in changelog

[severe coral]

Rarely

[fathom girder]

man I'm so lost lmao

[dull heart]

the gaps are seperating frames where the thin frames can be stretched to an arbitrary length

[fathom girder]

Oh rawad the numbers pertain to rgb codes, not changelogs

[severe coral]

Wait doze

[buoyant pulsar]

lmfao yall thought they were changelogs.,,.?

[severe coral]

wtf

Bro

[woeful yarrow]

Number 22
Add new player targeting for king slime and his jewel

[buoyant pulsar]

the first number was 255

[fathom girder]

Vrz what'd you figure out

[buoyant pulsar]

in groups of 3 in parenthesis

[woeful yarrow]

Shit

[severe coral]

Bro wait this is an old spoiler

[fathom girder]

WHAT'S THE SAUCE

[severe coral]

This shit already exists publicly

[fathom girder]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

MY GOD

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah this is what i was thinking

i thought they scrapped those tho

[severe coral]

Doze you

[fathom girder]

That's why it's BLUE because that's the SHIELDS on certain things

[severe coral]

Ya got me

[buoyant pulsar]

boss hp bars makes sense

[severe coral]

The spoiler was with us all along ❤️

[buoyant pulsar]

??

[woeful yarrow]

The fabsol profile pic is sick 🤢

[dull heart]

that boss bar layout was scrapped, but we've begun work on implementing a new version

[fathom girder]

Good work on piecing it all together vrz lul

[dull heart]

that is much more dynamic and flexible

[severe coral]

Ohhh it's in weird segments so you can like

[fathom girder]

ah, hence the stretching thing

That's neat

[buoyant pulsar]

??

[woeful yarrow]

What are even rgb codes

[dull heart]

that's why it's all white, so we can do any coloring for it we want and splice it together

[severe coral]

Have giant fancy looking meter splits and reapply the bubble shading to make it look more uhh... real???

[woeful yarrow]

You won't understand until you digging into old changelog

[dull heart]

and the segments horizontally are to let it extend as we want horizontally

[buoyant pulsar]

btw is this supposed to be an animation or are these just different types of highlights

[buoyant pulsar]

oh

[fathom girder]

it's a color thing, kinda like hex codes

[dull heart]

@buoyant pulsar see this

[woeful yarrow]

Oh

[buoyant pulsar]

forgot my name was changed to slow lol

[fathom girder]

Very cleverly made

[buoyant pulsar]

ooooh this makes way more sense

so its modular?

and u can just set all of the different segments to different colors

and overlay them?

[fathom girder]

DoG can have a purble health bar

[dull heart]

yes, setting them all to different shades of red/blue made that image i sent before

well

[buoyant pulsar]

are they all gonna be red still (aside from blue phases)?

[dull heart]

that i pinged you for before

[buoyant pulsar]

like every boss

[dull heart]

undetermined

for now probably

[severe coral]

Yeah this way it's not like slimes where it's a single gray sprite with one colour shader and you can add hueshifting to the palette of the hp bar

[dull heart]

but that is not set in stone

[dull heart]

yeah, that works sort of but its much more limited in getting the exact colors you want

[buoyant pulsar]

so whats the point of different bosses having different shading patterns for the hp bar them

[dull heart]

this method always gives the colors i want

[dull heart]

hp and shield needed them and we wanted the option in case we need other colors in the future

[severe coral]

Yeah cuz you can manually type every colour like that big fuckass grid of numbies

[dull heart]

yup

[fathom girder]

having to set rgbs for every single line might be obnoxious after awhile though

I'm ngl

[buoyant pulsar]

not the colors i mean the actual patterns

[dull heart]

oh

there's only one pattern atm but we can add more if we want

[severe coral]

It's either that or code a whole program in the mod to reference a whole other png of the palette to overlay

Like what Rain World does with their scenes

[fathom girder]

[dull heart]

yeah i considered that

using a color pallate png but i decided not to

[severe coral]

Yeah iirc Plantera and Dragonfolly had floral and voltaic designs

[fathom girder]

fair enough I guess

[dull heart]

mostly bc you can hot reload code numbers and can't hot reload sprites

[buoyant pulsar]

i just still dont rlly understand why there are so many different overlay patterns

[dull heart]

idk what you mean by diferent overlay patterns

[severe coral]

Overlay?

[dull heart]

the image i sent is one bar but each color is a different line

[buoyant pulsar]

are you saying it only uses one of these or

[severe coral]

Ok so

[dull heart]

color each section with the color codes like this

then put them on top of each other

[severe coral]

Yeah

[fathom girder]

that entire image is the bar

[dull heart]

bang, you have the health bar

[buoyant pulsar]

oh sick

[severe coral]

Like what I did

But 60 times per second :3

[dull heart]

also way easier to do for the machine

[buoyant pulsar]

oh now i actually understand

what this was for

i didnt realize overlaying all of those made that gif

[dull heart]

red is HP and blue is shield

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah

[severe coral]

Shie- Oh cryo

[buoyant pulsar]

i thought the gif was smth that was already spoiled

[severe coral]

who else has shields?

[fathom girder]

pillars

[buoyant pulsar]

but yeah thats rlly cool tho

[severe coral]

Ah

[buoyant pulsar]

i understand now

[dull heart]

cryo, CV, pillars

[severe coral]

Right void

[dull heart]

there's also probably gonna be another color for invul like bullet hells

[fathom girder]

doze saying it was rare was one hell of a hint lul

[severe coral]

Make it yellow like Risk of Rain Returns

[fathom girder]

piss yellow

[dull heart]

this hp bar has some cool sauce planned for it

[fathom girder]

like dehydrated specifically so it stands out y'know

[severe coral]

And the health value should also obviously be changed to say that it's invuln

Ngl

I feel baited

[buoyant pulsar]

yellow for sure..,,

[severe coral]

I need another riddle

[fathom girder]

nah you're just good at solving these

[severe coral]

Give me like

[fathom girder]

all I had to do was mention that the codes were rgb and you just went to town lmao

[severe coral]

Well I do pixel art and the numbers only went up to 255 and gradually decreased so I knew it was some sort of colour ramp

[fathom girder]

same lul

[severe coral]

I thought it was gonna be like
New tho

[fathom girder]

technically it's new

[dull heart]

it being actively in implementation is also new

[severe coral]

damn

[dull heart]

i could share a mock up of it but also tis still heart's sprites just edited by me to work with the new plan for the UI

so i won't

[fathom girder]

makes sense

[severe coral]

The only art spoiler I could never make out was the draedon weapons when the exos came out

[dull heart]

i think people are going to love it when big e finishes it though

[fathom girder]

having a more detailed healthbar is always nice to have

[severe coral]

YOOO

Someone should like

Totally make a puzzle out of a big sprite and post it

So people gotta like

[fathom girder]

sprite ARG

[severe coral]

ts would be funny asf

[fathom girder]

in brainstorm there will be one pixel hidden in a sunken sea spritesheet

[dull heart]

okay posts sunken sea background but i sorted the pixels by color first

[fathom girder]

and that's it

[severe coral]

Have like a stream goin of someone tryna fit every 10x10 piece together

[fathom girder]

lmao

[dull heart]

but anyway the boss bar will have all the important info of both MGR and Vanilla bars

plus some more

[fathom girder]

while not being a ripoff of the MGR healthbar from MGRR

[dull heart]

while also being just as simple and easy to understand as the vanilla ones

and not being a MGR ripoff

[fathom girder]

can't wait to see it in action :D

[dull heart]

in other news it's now tomorrow

[fathom girder]

brainstorm today then..?

[severe coral]

Wait so about that health bar

Wait nvm

[dull heart]

happy sunday have a spoiler https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663595058821464075/1457125758886744166/Terraria__Honey_Who_Absorbed_the_Dragons_2026-01-03_14-37-21.mp4?ex=695add9d&is=69598c1d&hm=2e80b2a5e91956cddfb380ad84a0ca0f0cdb80d1c46fa4c1c06c54a6f40027a3&

@lapis oak

[lapis oak]

AAAAA

[fathom girder]

STRATUS ORBBBBBBBBBB

[lapis oak]

I JUST FINISHED BACKREADING

[dull heart]

perfect timing

[lapis oak]

HI I WOKE UP

[fathom girder]

god damn that thing looks cool

[lapis oak]

THAT LOOKS SO GOOD

MASSIVE IMPROVEMENTS FROM LAST TIME

[severe coral]

Wait no yeah when a boss gets to like 5% health how do the larger health segments overlap?

[dull heart]

they can be cropped further - they're not disabled a segment at a time. the segments is just for making the overall bar length

[severe coral]

Because you either have them overlap and the sprites don't connect properly, or they are suddenly and jaringly replaced with the smaller segments

[lapis oak]

OK SO NO POINTER IN BS, NEW DYNAMIC BOSS HEALTHBAR, AND STRATUS SPHERE FINAL ITERATION SPOILER

[severe coral]

what

[dull heart]

basically tldr is that we stitch them together and then crop them to the right size

for the hp bar

[severe coral]

what is no pointer in bs and why are you yelling

[fathom girder]

with each segment existing for each phase, from the looks of it?

[dull heart]

what

idk what you mean by that

[fathom girder]

probably nothing

I said segment and my brain went to something else

worm

calamity is becoming more wormy with that healthbar cuz it's got SEGMENTS

[severe coral]

Yeah that's how meters work

[dull heart]

the segments are just used to assemble the full bars

once the bar is assembled, it is then cropped to the right length for the amount of hp

there's two examples of what it would look like at different lengths

[severe coral]

Ok but like if the boss had like 2 health left

[dull heart]

bottom bar

[fathom girder]

smol

[severe coral]

Oh it just cuts off

[dull heart]

yes it just crops it to the size

[severe coral]

I was thinkin like the rightmost segment would get pushed further and further left

So the tip of the health would always be round

[dull heart]

nope, by the time it gets to the HP stuff the segments are already merged into one image basically