calamity-update-talk

[lapis oak]

HELL YEAH

[dull heart]

10 seconds of Vermillion Flux from Gilded Proboscis

[lyric trellis]

Doze buffing all the venom staff clones

[grave geyser]

I might've been onto something here

[fathom girder]

gahdayum

yes please

oh uh

are there accessories that buff each elemental type, or was that relegated to the alcohols

[dull heart]

I made them match venom staff's 30 seconds

[dull heart]

There are both

[fathom girder]

so I'll need to use both to be optimal

perf

[dusk bronze]

🔥

[dull heart]

the accessories that do it now still do it

Plus a water buff accesory

and amalgam

[fathom girder]

I'll have to do some research, just because I'm only aware of hellfire treads

Idk the ones for elec or anything

[dull heart]

Also, Wet now increases Cold damage

[dusk bronze]

hell yeah

[lyric trellis]

Water meta is crazy

[fathom girder]

wait, won't hellfire treads buff chaos stone now

because that's a burn

[lapis oak]

awesome fucking truck

[lyric trellis]

Move over fire and sickness

[dull heart]

chaos stone technically is not a debuff

[lapis oak]

Water and Cold really need some love

[grave geyser]

biome water about to inflict wet

[fathom girder]

awwwwww

but it's FLAME

[dull heart]

cold gets love from status set

[fathom girder]

how could it not be fire

[amber egret]

can there be a weapon that inflicts a debuff that counts as every elemental type

[dull heart]

stratus set debuff is very strong

[rich ginkgo]

why would you ever wanna use rum

[dull heart]

stronger than sulphur poison i think

[rich ginkgo]

do i want more whip damage or more summon damage

🤔

[fathom girder]

so wait, if chaos stone isn't a debuff, what is it

[dull heart]

Sentry builds

[lyric trellis]

No more Icebreaker using nightwither…

[dull heart]

It does damage directly like a debuff

[rich ginkgo]

for the 4 people who play sentry builds 🥹

[dull heart]

It just isn't classified as one

[fathom girder]

ah

[grave geyser]

cryo stone nerf is crazy in this economy

[fathom girder]

would it be too much to ask for it to be classified as one

[dull heart]

if it was it would be typeless

[fathom girder]

I see

[lyric trellis]

It’s okay Tesla potion is dead

[grave geyser]

true

[dull heart]

But being a debuff would be a nerd

Nerf

[fathom girder]

is it magic damage currently?

[dull heart]

It would stop it from working properly on dog and Thanatos and the like

[fathom girder]

ohh

okay

I see

[dull heart]

no it just gives negative health regen

[honest trail]

YEEEESSSSSSSSSS

post wof

[dull heart]

it was almost pre boss

But cit stopped me :(

[grave geyser]

wouldve been funny

[polar tide]

fucking lol?!?!?!?!?!

[honest trail]

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

pre boss is awesome

[fathom girder]

Man I'm gonna have so much fun with a debuff spam build

I can't wait

[lapis oak]

ok so:
Cold - Voidfrost
Electric - Static Discharge, Vermillion Flux, Auric Rebuke
Water - Hadopelagic Pressure
Sickness - moved Brain Rot and Burning Blood

[amber egret]

just ask them really nicely but make the regen so incredibly dehabilitating that it obliterates most early game players

[lapis oak]

we're getting 5? (7) elemental debuffs in BS

[lyric trellis]

In memory to the nohitters who tried to use it pre-aureus and got everything dqed

[dusty tinsel]

Blue kiri

[honest trail]

I'm just curious—have you tested everything, like grape beer and weapons?

[lapis oak]

am I missing anything else

[amber egret]

what is voidfrost, vermillion flux, auric rebuke, and hadopelagic pressure

[lapis oak]

debuffs

[amber egret]

caused by what

[fathom girder]

auric rebuke is the debuff from auric ore, isn't it?

[lyric trellis]

Static discharge(?)

[fathom girder]

voidfrost is... I've never heard of that one

[lapis oak]

ye

[fathom girder]

vermillion flux is from the reaver summon iirc

[lapis oak]

Electric gets Static Discharge too I forgot

[fathom girder]

hadopelagic pressure is a post ml water debuff iirc

[dull heart]

Ok I just checked, Voidfrost does 200 DPS

[honest trail]

it's op with homming

[grave geyser]

voidfrost is the stratus debuff if I had to guess

[dusty tinsel]

Kiri having reaction perms is a crime

[fathom girder]

that would make sense

[dull heart]

it's on par with Laceration (which is typeless) but it can be buffed

[fathom girder]

stratus set just isn't coming off in my playthrough

I think

[dull heart]

but it's only inflicted from Stratus items consuming starbursts

[fathom girder]

god it sounds so fun lmao

stratus set with chaos stone

[lyric trellis]

It’s Folly set

[teal bone]

doze have you seen the attribute anomaly mod

reminds me

[dull heart]

with amalgam Voidfrost is doing 1200 DPS on yharon I think

[fathom girder]

oe

HOLY GODDAMN

[grave geyser]

since when is yharon weak to cold

[lapis oak]

Voidfrost is Stratus, Hado is post-Polter Abyss, Vermillion Flux is Folly, Static Discharge is probably preboss, and Auric Rebuke is Auric electric weapons

[fathom girder]

yharon is a flame dragon

why wouldn't he be weak to cold

[dull heart]

Low-key made one myself years before zzz on accident but no I haven't

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060367668517011516/1342175702752952430/taintedBladeWiki.webp

[amber egret]

... plink sfx??????????????

[teal bone]

would honestly be sick to see a similar system on an acc

[amber egret]

i dont know what these words mean.

[grave geyser]

wow thats fucked

[honest trail]

I have a question: When natural mana regeneration is disabled, does the mana regeneration mechanism itself change?

[dull heart]

Yharon is cold weak because hes too used to being hot

[grave geyser]

affliction might just be a tad broken I fear

[polar tide]

shaved yharon weak to cold

[lapis oak]

what tier will inflict Static Discharge? I assumed it's preboss because it's supposed to be weaker Electrified (preboss Electrified is brutal)

[fathom girder]

iirc it's a permanent regen that isn't stopped by using magic weapons

[dull heart]

Yes. Mana Regeneration is replaced by the fixed rate

[honest trail]

So it regenerates even while attacking??

[dull heart]

the fixed rate works even while using items yes

[lapis oak]

wow ok

[honest trail]

what?????????

[lapis oak]

I've thought of that actually

[fathom girder]

wasn't it made because doze hates mana flower

lol

[dull heart]

Yes

[dull heart]

Yes

and bc I had 0 other good ideas

[fathom girder]

lul

[honest trail]

mana flower is most stupid accessory

it's waste

[arctic cliff]

congrats on the blue role

[dull heart]

1200.cold DPS would go up to 1600 on yharon if he's wet I think

[grave geyser]

manual chugging sucks ass so uhh
no

[fathom girder]

would water type debuffs count as being wet

or does it specifically have to be the wet debuff

[dull heart]

Voidfrost is meant specifically to make Stratus weapons good on yharon without being insane on dog

[dull heart]

Specifically Wet

[finite tulip]

Simply secondary bind mana potion to WASD

[fathom girder]

hrm

so fight yharon when it's raining

got it

[lapis oak]

I

[honest trail]

Key bindings are sufficient substitutes, so it's just a waste of slots.

[lofty valley]

grape beer seems kinda busted no?

[lapis oak]

'm bluu

[grave geyser]

so I can have permenant mana sickness, brilliant!

[blazing field]

It is from a very rare material

[arctic cliff]

-1 proton

[lofty valley]

wait how rare are grapes?

[blazing field]

Like grapes are a like 1% drop from derplings

It does seem kinda crazy but to be fair, there's that

Probably the rarest material out of all of them

[dull heart]

2% from derpling and flying fox

Iirc

[grave geyser]

no not really
like technically its functional but its so much more effort for such a minor damage increase

[dull heart]

Nah fire feather definitely is rarest

[fathom girder]

welp

[dull heart]

2% from red devils only

[blazing field]

Black lenses have a lower droprate but also you get them from demon eyes

[fathom girder]

time to use zerg potions to farm the materials so I can

[blazing field]

ok yeah true theres that one

[fathom girder]

oh wait

[blazing field]

so probably 2nd rarest

[fathom girder]

zerg potions will be gone soon inshallah

[honest trail]

I don't think it's that much effort.

[dull heart]

bloody mary!

[lavish otter]

I just realized, does being blue give you reaction perms?

[dull heart]

Yeah

ngl I thought for a while grapes were from a tree

but they're not

[grave geyser]

nuh uh!

[fathom girder]

did you hear grapevine and just go "nah that can't be right"

[lapis oak]

yes

[dull heart]

No I just saw most fruit dropped from trees

[fathom girder]

oh

[dull heart]

so I thought they'd put grape in one too

[grave geyser]

tbf
I dont blame you
grapefruit drops from trees
but grapes dont

fucked up

[lapis oak]

that's fucked up tbh

[fathom girder]

grapefruits aren't even remotely related to grapes why are they NAMED THAT

[lapis oak]

should buff the amounts of booze per craft

[dull heart]

they taste the same

If you have covid

[lavish otter]

...can I be blue too? 🥺
👉 👈

[fathom girder]

was covid around when grapefruit was discovered

[dusty tinsel]

No

[fathom girder]

I think NOT

[lavish otter]

I can be cool! I'm hip

[dusty tinsel]

I am demoting you to uncool dude

[lavish otter]

Noooooooo-

[fathom girder]

asking for cool role is how you never get cool role

gg

[dull heart]

you are now #36393F colored (the default discord background)

[lapis oak]

sorry I will be redacted by the government

[dusty tinsel]

Someone might put you up for a vote eventually

[lapis oak]

can't speak more on that topic

[fathom girder]

The government in question is just ozzatron with a rifle

[dusty tinsel]

I am going to demote kiri to protonless

[lapis oak]

😠

[lavish otter]

Pff, that looks kind of funny as a reply

[median halo]

theyre adding what in calamity mod

[dusty tinsel]

Calamity

[dull heart]

ur mom's mom's mom's mom

[lavish otter]

But damn...probably not happening honestly, I don't think I'm active often enough

I'm around like- maybe once every two days

[dusty tinsel]

Kiri is the least cool person and kiri got it so you might /j

[dull heart]

idek when I got cool role I just like

Randomly got it at some point

[lapis oak]

beating u up

[sterile moss]

In some form probably, viruses are eternal little shits

[dull heart]

I think Fabsol probably just gave me it silently when I became dev

[median halo]

wait to get the blue role you just need to talk a lot

[fathom girder]

damn

[lavish otter]

Y'know, after Kiri's activity on Reddit-

[fathom girder]

the one cool thing fab ever did

[dull heart]

no

[median halo]

oh okay

[fathom girder]

you get cool dude by being a cool dude

[dusty tinsel]

As a dev you auto get it

[dull heart]

Ah

[thorny fjord]

^ yeah, if fab didn't do it another mod did

[sterile moss]

It’s a mystery™

[lavish otter]

I mean, it seems to be a general trusted user role, I'm just guessing it's less likely someone will be put into consideration if they aren't around much

[fathom girder]

no it's if they're a cool dude

it's in the name

[blazing field]

to get cooldude role you need to beat the himalayan ape man

in a fist fight

[dull heart]

you need to answer my riddles correctly

[lapis oak]

ye I did do that actually

[fathom girder]

find his pages

[lapis oak]

now I remembered

[sterile moss]

You mean the freeski yeti?

[blazing field]

the Himalayan Ape Man

[fathom girder]

sounds like a cool dude

where can I find this Himalayan Ape Man

[blazing field]

Himalaya

[fathom girder]

yeah but which one

there's multiple himalayas

or is that the litmus test

the trial to even face the Himalayan Ape Man

[sterile moss]

That’s the first of the riddles

[dusty tinsel]

To be a cool you must beat up kiri

In game

[autumn compass]

Hi Kiri can you join my Terraria server

No reason in particular

[fathom girder]

hey kiri I'll also be there

for no reason really

[lapis oak]

this is targeted attack 😡

[lean relic]

you are cool and extremely cool guy

[dusty tinsel]

It's in game only

[distant raft]

if i beat up kiri do i get cool

[dusty tinsel]

Only if you send me video proof

[autumn compass]

Me omw to tell my friend to join my world with a character named KiriWhite

[boreal edge]

Kiri is put in a mech suit first

[lapis oak]

this fucking shark is actually the most evil but no one bats an eye smh

society

[grave geyser]

this shark has done no wrong I dont know what you mean

[dusty tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

Imagine being a shark that weighs like 2 or 3 times as much as that guy and just getting rotated

[fathom girder]

water is a funny thing

[dusty tinsel]

I am going to rotate CongratsIsTrash on the Y axis

For helping kiri

Kiri is a good kiri

Kiri doesn't need help

[deft lily]

GET ROTATED
Idiot

[dusty tinsel]

Dunanana

Or whatever that music that plays when it has memes like that

[dusk bronze]

it's from earthbound

dunno the name

[dusty tinsel]

I am gonna make you earthbound

[lapis oak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Gj-RJeeng

[dusty tinsel]

I am sorry

[dusk bronze]

:((

[lapis oak]

HOLY bluu embed power

[dusty tinsel]

Kiri is too powerful now

[misty wren]

we need to remove kiris blue power

[dusty tinsel]

No

[arctic cliff]

by turning it into omega amidias

[dusty tinsel]

Kiri has been granted the gift of ultimate power

[lapis oak]

I can mpreg reacts everyone and embed Youtube videos it's so ogre for Calamity Mod Discord

[misty wren]

dont fucking mpreg react me kiri ill throw a brick at you

[dusty tinsel]

Real life picture of kiri

[dusty tinsel]

Ogre

[arctic cliff]

[lapis oak]

ogre

[median halo]

calamity will update and everything will be fine

[dusty tinsel]

Hyper mpreg 😭

[dull heart]

i wonder just how hard people will break stratus set

especially interested in Galileo Gladius

[lapis oak]

omg I don't have Nitro to use that

it would be so good...

[median halo]

did stratus became an all class thing

[grave geyser]

did you ever find out if you patched gladius

[dull heart]

Gladius like low-key seems like a really bad weapon except for the fact it's part of stratus

[dull heart]

I'm not going to look it'll be a surprise

[grave geyser]

awesome

[dusty tinsel]

Also I am like pretty sure we have told people off for using m-preg related emojis

[dull heart]

Yes and no

[dusty tinsel]

So I would be wary of that

[dull heart]

Stratus set is still single class weapons except Stratus Sphere, which is classless

But they all share a set resource called Starburst

Any of them can generate starbursts or consume them

[vestal osprey]

Tasty

[dull heart]

This means you may want to swap weapons to generate more starbursts or to consume them on a weapon of choice

[median halo]

yeah im aware of that mechanic

[dusk bronze]

absolute peak

[dull heart]

So they're still classed, but heavily reward multiclass

[lapis oak]

awesome for classless armors

[dull heart]

I want to make a stratus armor soo baddddd

[lapis oak]

is there any classless armor around that tier

assuming no right

[dusk bronze]

retheme omega blue

[grave geyser]

stratus armor that increases max starbursts

[dull heart]

Omega Blue

[dull heart]

It would probably do that and buff Voidfrost specifically

[vestal osprey]

Will stratus gear still inflict night wither

[dull heart]

It inflicts Voidfrost

[lapis oak]

I forgot what tier will inflict Nightwither in BS

can't think of any

[dull heart]

Around moon lord

[vestal osprey]

What will voidfrost do?

[dull heart]

200 DPS cold debuff

[lapis oak]

don't see anything that fits the theme soo

[dull heart]

Literally like anything that currently does it

Except Stratus

[lapis oak]

the economy is so bad...

[dull heart]

Add mirror blade to the list

[fathom girder]

it'll have a niche use case to use while swapping between every other stratus weapon, ultrakill style

surely

[lapis oak]

does it inflict for a longer time?

[vocal kelp]

It seems they've gotta add some more moon burns

[lavish otter]

So everything except half of the items?

[dull heart]

shh

[lapis oak]

there're only 2 on-tier weapons that will be inflicting NW

3 for Mirror Blade

[dull heart]

Good

[dull heart]

Idk I don't ultra kill

But Gladius is by far the best starburst generation tool

[fathom girder]

What I mean by that is like

[dull heart]

And has the best defensive ability barring stratus sphere

[fathom girder]

weaving all the weapons together into a combo using all of them, with some of your tools being pure util

[lavish otter]

Actually, genuine question, why is that anyways? I guess maybe the exodium clusters, but what does Lumenyl have to do with it?

[fathom girder]

given gladius will let you swing around and off of your target, as you mentioned like a month ago, it could be useful for immediate repositioning

[lapis oak]

at least 1 option should be able to apply it for a moderately long time I think

[fathom girder]

I see potential

[dull heart]

Have I ever sent a real video of Gladius in use

[lapis oak]

no

[dull heart]

hmm

[lavish otter]

Also kind of unrelated, but while I was reminding myself of what lumenyl is, I saw this...and I'm not sure if it's a typo or an intentional play on lumenyl's spelling

[fathom girder]

you sent a gif of it being thrown at air, and then I asked if it could stick into things like a grapple and you said yeah

[dull heart]

I see

[fathom girder]

idk why I'm able to remember these details it's like the one goddamn thing I can ever remember

it's a curse

[lean relic]

curse of spoiler folks

you never will feel full from eating spoilers
you will keep starve

[fathom girder]

I feel plenty full

I savor every detail

insert that one image of the kid hating homework and then spending 12 hours on the computer

[amber egret]

luminous, isnt it

[dull heart]

okay here's what it does for real

[fathom girder]

oh

oh that's really good

[amber egret]

that looks neat

[fathom girder]

I can definitely see that being used in a rotation

[grave geyser]

yep thats ori bash all right

[amber egret]

what is it with people mentioning rotation?

[dull heart]

yup

[lavish otter]

That's the actual spelling, yeah, but I just wonder if the misspell is intentional given it's also present for the Lumenous Amulet's name

[dull heart]

oh i forgot to show one interatction wiht it

[grave geyser]

oh btw doze you might wanna edit the spoiler to mention that they're made in bulk I'm seeing people in other servers thinking you're gonna need to genocide half of hell for enough fire feathers

[amber egret]

it lasts for two hours

[dull heart]

this shows two of them:

• hitting tiles stops the reel in and does the normal release. that's what happened the first time
• you can cancel the reel into the normal release at any point. this is what I did the second time

[dull heart]

done but won't get changed wherever it was published to

[grave geyser]

mhm

[dull heart]

and here's the tooltip

[grave geyser]

at the very least it'l work for people who havent checked this server yet

[lavish otter]

Oh! Speaking of the alcohol stuff, I have another question I thought of earlier but forgot to ask, if you don't mind

[dull heart]

@ whoever does the doc

idek who does it anymore

[dusk bronze]

still mostly vanillin

[amber egret]

is there not a bohemian rhapsody reference in one of the stratus stuff

[dull heart]

@vivid hemlock hey look doc stuff

[lapis oak]

HOLY

[dull heart]

there's literally one in the tooltip i sent

[lapis oak]

HOLY FUCK

that's an Ori bash alright

[amber egret]

oh good the reference is intentional

[lapis oak]

is that Starburst asset final?

[dull heart]

yes

[lapis oak]

gotcha

[dull heart]

and a byleth up-b

[lapis oak]

don't know what u even saying

[dull heart]

now almost every byleth weapon has been shown

[lavish otter]

The Bloody Mary rework was being talked about as if it was a more balanced alternative to Zerg potions, but I missed part of the convo, so...how exactly? Because seemingly with the way it works, you'd be able to collect two bloody tears, use one for a bundle of Bloody Marys and the other for a new blood moon each night, then use the Bloody Marys for even more bloody tears each blood moon

All potentially before you even beat your first boss, and with the only cost being that any projectile weapons would pierce less

[grave geyser]

technically speaking it can also be seen as ori ultra grapple

[dull heart]

yeah but that's less cool

[dusk bronze]

well it's still really hard to kill that many enemies early game

[lavish otter]

At least Zerg potions require you to beat Slime God first

[amber egret]

me using a blood moon:

[dusk bronze]

there's some in surface shrine iirc

[dull heart]

because bloody mary makes killing all the enemies WAY harder

and you can't cancel the buff so you commmit to 6 minutes of tons of enemies

[lapis oak]

pierce resist

[amber egret]

my issue is that why would i do that

when i can just bloody tear

[lavish otter]

To a degree at least, it's heavily dependent on your playstyle depending on having a weapon that pierces

[dull heart]

bloody tear only changes spawn rates on surface

also it's less intense

and it stacks!

[amber egret]

where else would i need a lot of spawns

[dull heart]

if you don't have a weapon with piercing how are you killing the 500 enemies before they get to you

[amber egret]

does it raise the spawn cap or the spawn rate

[dull heart]

anywhere you want to farm drops?

[dull heart]

both. 7x rate and 5x cap i think

[lavish otter]

Personally, I've never had an issue using a thorn chakram and minishark to melt through the hoard, so it's harder for me to see that as a singificant drawback

[dull heart]

i think you're vastly underestimating the amount of enemies

[amber egret]

can you show us maychance

[lavish otter]

Maybe, I'm just unsure because like...I've used Zerg potions before, they're basically the only reason I bothered to fight Slime God. So unless it increases the spawnrate even more, my perspective remains

[amber egret]

i never really need high spawn rates

[dull heart]

like how are you dealing with this with just a minishark?

[dull heart]

zerg is 5x, this is 7x

[lavish otter]

...ah- yeah, that'd do it then

[wide wadi]

Doze spoiling the whole update early

[amber egret]

the mythical pillar with box on top

[wide wadi]

[dull heart]

demon eye hordes converge on your location:

[rare tinsel]

holy shit bloody mary’s peam

the ultimate blorb farm

[dull heart]

also it gets worse the longer you leave it going ofc bc the enemies can build up

[lapis oak]

Voidfrost effect looking nice

[dull heart]

and this was near sunflowers

[lavish otter]

Also yeah, doorway filtering is a pretty effective way to mitigate any risk in pre-hardmode, but you might be able to count that as an invalid point since it's kind of a cheesy strategy

[rare tinsel]

if you hit the enemy cap for too long make them conglomerate into a superboss

[dusk bronze]

yrue

[dull heart]

yeah that works

[amber egret]

the enemies shall stand no chance

[dull heart]

either way it forces you to plan ahead more than a zerg does

because with a zerg you can wipe crowds much easier

[amber egret]

idk i just dont see the appeal

if it made enemies drop more things maybe i'd like it more?

[dull heart]

more enemies means more things drop

so like

[amber egret]

well yea but like

[fathom girder]

I'm seeing melee becoming more meta

hehe

[amber egret]

their drop chances are boosted mildly

[fathom girder]

It's a 7x droprate increase

[amber egret]

in my eyes bloody is kinda just a worse blood moon if i REALLY need drops

[dull heart]

it's more than a blood moon thouhg

unless on death

[amber egret]

it doesnt look like it

i play death expert

[dull heart]

it is

[lavish otter]

Presumably, you could do both

[dull heart]

yeah death makes blood moon 10x lol

[amber egret]

yea

i play "shit pisser mcfuck" because its appealing to me

[lavish otter]

Actually wait- that begs the question, does it multiply the multiplier, add to it, or just not interact at all?

[dull heart]

but blood moon only works on surface, so doesn't work for getting jungle materials, souls, essences, rare drops,e tc

[dull heart]

multiplicatively stack

[lavish otter]

Good lord-

[dull heart]

adding battle or zerg to bmary gets insane

[amber egret]

can you

[lavish otter]

70x spawn rate

[amber egret]

show

:)

[fathom girder]

he can't spoil EVERYTHING

pay 50 for brainstorm

[amber egret]

he actually can! he's got 2 months

[dusk bronze]

• zerg would be 350x right

[fathom girder]

at that point you're hitting spawnrate cap

lul

[lavish otter]

If Zerg stays, at least

[amber egret]

no no they boost cap

[lavish otter]

But uh- yeah, that'd be insane

[lapis oak]

@dull heart Voidfrost uses Nightwither's current icon right? because in changelogs Nightwither got resprited

[amber egret]

glue a chaos candle on there

[dull heart]

yes

i mean it shows in the video

[lapis oak]

gotcha

just making sure

[lavish otter]

Honestly, I think at that point, you'd be best off just trapping yourself in a box with one platform in the floor and throwing grenades down

Absolute cheese

[dull heart]

grenades that deal no dmg by the 4th enemy

[lapis oak]

placeholder or final?

[dull heart]

;)

[amber egret]

the humble farm mushroon

[fathom girder]

doze you should make bloody mary's buff also spawn a ghost every 20 seconds

[dull heart]

final

[fathom girder]

that'll show em

[lavish otter]

Oh right- wait, it effects the piercing of explosives too?

[lapis oak]

👍

[lavish otter]

I didn't even know you could do that

[dull heart]

literally everything that pierces

[amber egret]

the farm mushroom breaks in hardmode because wraiths

but by then you have Way More Things.

[dull heart]

if it's something that hits multiple targets, it either loses 25% dmg per hit target or just does 0.33x dmg in general

depending on if reducing it's dmg directly would break things (like minions)

[amber egret]

what about something like the uhh

[lavish otter]

Interesting- so spike balls are affected too?

[amber egret]

vampire frog

[dull heart]

spike balls lose 25% dmg per hit

vamp frog does 0.33x dmg

[amber egret]

ah i see

[dull heart]

it's funny seeing terra blade struggle on regular zombies

[fathom girder]

terra-ble

haha

[dusk bronze]

death blood moon: 10x spawn rate/cap
bloody mary: 7x spawn rate/cap
zerg: 5x spawn rate/cap
chaos candle: +66.67% spawn rate, +150% spawn cap
water candle: +33% spawn rate, +50% spawn cap

someone else can do the math i'm tupid

[lavish otter]

Goodness- yeah, I think you'd just be screwed then
Like I know there'll be options for grounded piercing weapons that don't have limited uses when all of the rogue weapons in that category get made into infinite use items, but that'd still be rough

[dull heart]

well, "struggle" as in not screen wipe htem

it takes time to kill them

[lapis oak]

Stratus looking fun can't wait to use Crescent Moon 😋

[amber egret]

lowkey might be screwed

fortunately; lava

[dull heart]

ground weapons probably get gutted a lot bc they tend to hit rapidly for low dmg

[fathom girder]

You know what can't be diminished, though

DEBUFFS

[amber egret]

Five Hundred Zombie Arms.

[fathom girder]

Debuff spam the entire crowd WHAT CAN THE HORDE DO

[lavish otter]

Good point- I wonder what would actually be optimal for something like that

[amber egret]

would darts do 33% damage or

[dull heart]

yeah bloody mary is intended to be like zerg but force you to actually plan around it instead of screen wiping easily basically

[dull heart]

nope traps uneffected

[amber egret]

oh cool

[fathom girder]

oh

[lavish otter]

Oh! I see, so dart traps it is

[fathom girder]

so draedon turrets can be useful for something

neat

[dull heart]

traps aren't player owned

[barren hollow]

352x spawn rate I think

[amber egret]

and spawn cap?

[barren hollow]

Idk probably the same

[rancid pagoda]

what if floor was lava

[fathom girder]

what if spooky ghost

[amber egret]

just dont break gravestones

shrimple !

[barren hollow]

354x I think

Maybe

[amber egret]

radical.

wait

goblin farming ;)

or

[lavish otter]

Alright, so if you were able to set up a dart trap with a one second timer, that wouldn't be too bad

[amber egret]

gnome

gnome farming

[lavish otter]

In pre-hardmode, you'd just be fucked in hardmode

[amber egret]

post skeletron you can get 352x the gnomes

[fathom girder]

now you're getting it

[rancid pagoda]

bowlder

[amber egret]

i NEED to make "BEST CALAMITY MONEY MAKING METHOD 2026"

[barren hollow]

There will be no farming the only farm is plasma formed when your computer reaches the heat of the sun

[lavish otter]

Oh yeah, boulders would be good too!

They're limited use, but I don't think they're too expensive?

[amber egret]

boulder staute

[rancid pagoda]

dart trap has a hardmode upgrade to do acid venom

[lavish otter]

oh yeah-

I forget boulder statues exist

[amber egret]

did you know lunar boulders exist

[lavish otter]

I did know about that, I wish you could use those honestly

[rancid pagoda]

moon lord balls?

[lavish otter]

It'd be a nice reward for all the boosh you have to go through in gfb

[unreal nebula]

does the calamity team post anything like teasers or any info on upcoming updates in this server? or anywhere really?

ive never kept up with the mods development but im curious

[still bluff]

#spoilers

[unreal nebula]

awesome ty

[lapis oak]

#changelogs

[still bluff]

also see various things posted in this channel

[unreal nebula]

👍

[dusk bronze]

yeah they post here constantly

[unreal nebula]

i saw a video showing off some resprites that looked really cool and it made me realize i actually have no idea how often they update the mod lol

[dusk bronze]

also there's a whole ass google doc with every confirmed upcoming feature in the pins

[unreal nebula]

im doing a new playthrough but my last one was maybe 2 years ago now

oh thats sick

[dusk bronze]

you haven't been missing much

[lapis oak]

few months inbetween

[unreal nebula]

i saw the scal resprite

but besides that yeah no idea what else has changed

[dusk bronze]

that was several years ago

[unreal nebula]

fair its just more recent than the last time ive actually gotten to scal lol

[dull heart]

the next update is within 2 months

[amber egret]

insert kingpin clicking pen

[unreal nebula]

the new ui in that google doc looks great

[fathom girder]

Brainstorm is gonna be basically a remaster of a LOT of calamity

[lavish otter]

One might even say that it'll release SSOon

[fathom girder]

I wouldn't say it's an overhaul because um

ptsd

[dusk bronze]

[lapis oak]

buh

[unreal nebula]

is that the next update?

[fathom girder]

yeah

[unreal nebula]

gotcha

[fathom girder]

it's due to arrive in a couple months or sumn

[dusk bronze]

all the shits from sso that aren't sunken sea related

[fathom girder]

it's gonna be cool when it eventually releases

[unreal nebula]

yeah i saw a reddit thread saying there were a lot of overhauls planned thats what actually got me in here

[fathom girder]

oh!

welcome

[lavish otter]

Most of*

[misty wren]

1-2 months is the current estimate but thats subject to change

[fathom girder]

this place is your salvation from the reddit

[unreal nebula]

i promise im not a redditor

[dusk bronze]

not really

[fathom girder]

that place is just dangerous is all

[dusk bronze]

they said it's pretty locked in

as the timeframe

[ivory lark]

not subject to change

[fathom girder]

I still wouldn't say we should hold em to that

SSO was meant to release in 2024 :)

[lapis oak]

🙏

[dusk bronze]

well would you look at that

[lapis oak]

5/60 we're going up every passing day

[unreal nebula]

if i know anything about indie development things always go according to schedule and deadlines are always real and tangible

[dull heart]

very true

[lavish otter]

I believe some things like the Slime God resprite and rework, Exo and Arsenal T1 armor, and some miscellaneous non-SS resprites are being saved for SSO

[fathom girder]

oh I like this guy

[dusk bronze]

obligatory

[fathom girder]

hehehehehe

[dull heart]

Anyway bye cut I'm going to go play needy streamer overload (I have literally no idea what this game is but it was on sale and I've heard it's good)

[misty wren]

my EYES

[fathom girder]

have fun with that

[lapis oak]

light mode jumpscare

[misty wren]

@blazing field you reference

[lavish otter]

Uh oh, the pot's entered the chat

[lapis oak]

😠

it's good I promise

[blazing field]

https://tenor.com/view/nso-needy-streamer-overload-needy-girl-overdose-needy-girl-gif-7179177799302486437

[dull heart]

WAIT THAT ONE MEME SONG IS FROM THIS???

[still bluff]

cheeseposting

[blazing field]

which one

this game has a Few songs

if it's Internet Yamero becasue i know that one became really popular specially with like animators

yeah

[dull heart]

The one right at the beginning that got a ton of animations of different characters online kinda like rabbit hole did way back when

[hot pebble]

Yo doze, remember that idea of a revolver for a rogue? I drew a picture of how I imagine it

[blazing field]

gthere's Internet Overdose, Internet Yamero, Cubism... so many songs

[misty wren]

rabbit hole is such a good song my one wish is that the animations werent so horribly overtly horny

[dull heart]

idk the animation usually had viewers sending different outfits to the streamer

[dull heart]

ATRUE

[blazing field]

its kind of ironic

if oyu know what rabbit hole is about

[vocal kelp]

incredibly covert meaning

you have to learn five languages to find out what the messaging is clearly

[misty wren]

oh yeah no the song is horny but that subtext is in almost literally all of deco*27's music

[blazing field]

no i don't mean that

[ivory lark]

is this the next calamity mod update ⁉️

[misty wren]

yes

[blazing field]

Dunno if i can say it here so i'm tagging you in sscls instead

[misty wren]

hatsune miku has been added to calamity

[fathom girder]

woah... Fiend folio reference...

(miku is in fiend folio)

[hot pebble]

So uhh... Here
(Flashbang)

[misty wren]

isnt it flavor folio isnt fiend folio the tboi mod

[fathom girder]

you're correct on both accounts

miku is in a joke room in fiend folio

also she's red

[misty wren]

evil hatsune miku what the FUCK

[fathom girder]

YEAH LMAO

[lavish otter]

Wait, that's a Deco song too?

[misty wren]

yes

[hot pebble]

How calamitous

[misty wren]

deco is the single largest vocaloid producer iirc

at the very least the single largest hatsune miku producer

[lavish otter]

Huh! That's funny
I think Rabbit Hole was the first Miku song I actually listened to, then Monitoring was what actually got me into vocaloid stuff, so it's funny that it all just came back to Deco

[fathom girder]

vocaloid stuff is too much for me

but I see the appeal

[misty wren]

like this motherfucker is unprecedented

he has two songs over 100m on yt

[lavish otter]

I just like the fan art and some of the songs, honestly

[fathom girder]

the fanart's cute yeah

I mean it's miku

can't go wrong with miku fanart

[misty wren]

there have only been 5 miku songs in general to go over 100m iirc and only 3 of them were solo miku
2 of those are both from deco

[hot pebble]

What do you think doze?

[fathom girder]

dozer is busy

playing a vimeo grane

[hot pebble]

He might check later.

[fathom girder]

in my humblest opinion, it's a gun

seems pretty rangery to me

[lavish otter]

It's definitely pretty gun

[fathom girder]

now maybe

[misty wren]

i mean

it doesnt need to be ranger

[fathom girder]

if stealth becomes focus or whatever

I could see it

but it's a GUN

[misty wren]

remember class identity is a myth

[fathom girder]

someone played the roots mod

[hot pebble]

Ranger/Rogue damage

[misty wren]

no i played vanilla and saw

1. shadowflame knife (melee)
2. magic knife (mage)
3. throwing knife (ranged)
4. poisoned knife (ranged)
5. vampire knives (melee)

[lavish otter]

That'd be...interesting, actually

Wait, wrong message

[fathom girder]

I mean TECHNICALLY this can be excused as thrower class remnants

[lavish otter]

But I think it'd be interesting for a weapon to benefit from more than one class, and the way it does just depends on your playstyle

[fathom girder]

that's certainly a concept that's been explored before, yeah

but y'know

it's a gun

[misty wren]

except it cant be because vampire knives were never thrower and magic knife was never thrower and shadowflame knife, despite being released WHILE THROWER WAS STILL A THING, was never thrower

[fathom girder]

DAMNIT

touche

[lavish otter]

I see an obvious solution to this...make the melee knives into shortswords

[fathom girder]

they already are

they're just like. really really really smol

[lavish otter]

In fact,make the magic knife one too, just a shortsword that eats up your mana

[hot pebble]

Like Prismatic Breaker

[fathom girder]

Shortswords become relevant once more

They are now the (whatever you want them to be) class

[blazing field]

longsword class

look inside

shortswords

[lavish otter]

Shortswords shall become Longknives

[fathom girder]

They're not short, they're normal sized

[hot pebble]

Buttstab

[fathom girder]

It's every other sword that's too long

[hot pebble]

Im mean backstab

[misty wren]

fun fact this is actually a historical thing they're called langes messers (german for long knife) and they are literally just really big knives

there are also großes messers which are even bigger

[thorny fjord]

Deco is good, but imo his recent stuff feels too commercial and polished, I'm a huge sucker for utsu-P and also frequently come back to wowakas stuff as I feel they are more artistic despite their lower numbers

Oh wait, I resurrected the off topic, my b. If you want to talk vocaloid elsewhere though I am always down

[lavish otter]

Hold on, I've gotta check this out

Ah! A lot more of a cross between a knife and a sword than I expected, but it's probably more practical that way I suppose

[dusk bronze]

i believe you misclicked

this is update talk

[near sigil]

Oh oops

Calamity addon right

[rich ginkgo]

late but yeah

[woeful pagoda]

I am hyped for the update

once again

[cunning sequoia]

all it took was alcohol

tsk tsk

[true oriole]

Holy shit the grape beer

Bow bad must be the crit damage decrease?

[blazing field]

it's also one of the rarest items in there

grapes, i mean

probably 2nd rarest behind flame feather

[misty wren]

its like 25% iirc

[true oriole]

Jesus

Yeah that ought to balance it out

Still powerful tho

[true oriole]

Zerg in the jungle

Lock yourself in a box

Lava pit

Profit

[blazing field]

Doing all of that for an alcohol?

[true oriole]

I mean if it gives THAT

[blazing field]

I mean fair enough lma

[true oriole]

Abso-fucking-lutely

[blazing field]

Zergs are probably getting butchered so there's that

[lapis oak]

Might actually build a lava pit for once

[true oriole]

Fair enough, but still

[blazing field]

I'd hope they are now that bloody mary exists anyways

[lapis oak]

Never done that

[misty wren]

every day i pray to ozzatron and ask for the killing of zerg potions

[lapis oak]

Because Zerg just doesn't need it

[true oriole]

Ranger class players becoming wine beer makers next update

[cunning sequoia]

cant wait for some guy to go manic over zerg removal

[true oriole]

Breaking news: rangers found drunk on grape beer in the middle of the jungle

[dusk bronze]

remember that old suggestion about making zerg a block you have to defend, kinda like ooa

that was sick

[misty wren]

no i dont

[dusk bronze]

it might've been reb

[misty wren]

i remember suggesting for it to be flat removed but that went nowhere as expected

[true oriole]

That would make afk farms marginably easier tho

It would pull aggro on itself

[lapis oak]

Remember when Reb went insane talking how Zerg would make one go feral replacing all of the attacks with unique Zerg state attacks and fucking whatever I forgor

[dusk bronze]

right it might've been that

[misty wren]

no but id buy that from her

[hard hearth]

doesnt look that powerful to me

[misty wren]

i havent seen her around in a while i hope shes still scopecreeping and ideasguying

homing i dont think is worth losing out on 25% crit damage

[hard hearth]

the crit damage loss will prolly entirely negate the extra projectiles you hit with the homing..

just aim good

[lapis oak]

Probably shouldn't build crits or use high crit weapon in the first place if you aim to use Grape Beer

[hard hearth]

outside of summons every class eventually goes crit

[misty wren]

if you arent critting sure yeah whatever but maybe this is just me saying shit homing isnt a stat im ever explicitly looking for

[dusk bronze]

use it with soma prime

[true oriole]

Hyperion bullets:

[hard hearth]

its just built into every armor and offensive acc

[blazing field]

homing helps the most with weapons that fire alot

[lapis oak]

Ok mr. Aim

[blazing field]

and weapons thta fire alot also benefit the most from crit

so

[hard hearth]

[hard hearth]

defo dmg loss on everything thats not like calclone or ceaseless void hitbox

[true oriole]

True...

The grape beer is useless on provi obviously

[west isle]

#spoilers message
Rip red wine with baguette for 250 health potions

[frigid matrix]

[lapis oak]

No it's still there

Instead of Red Wine it'll be Baguette

[west isle]

Epic

[dusk bronze]

@lapis oak you forgor titanium railgun in weapon chart i think

[lapis oak]

What

That thing just got resprited

There's no gameplay changes

[hard hearth]

you're the gameplay change

[dusk bronze]

i thought plain resprites were also included

[lapis oak]

Nah

That's Orios' job

[dusk bronze]

since when is ambergris reworked

[lapis oak]

Not reworked it's gotten some changes and visual upgrades

Ancient spoiler tho

[high scaffold]

2.1 tomorrow

[terse dew]

yesterday

In the year 6

[hard hearth]

22

[terse dew]

the year 22 was 2022 years ago

[dusk bronze]

[high scaffold]

Me when my 2 favorite lines get reworked

[hard hearth]

[high scaffold]

Arsenal and elemental lines

[dusk bronze]

wait is uhh

parrotfish reworked

[high scaffold]

I think

[dusk bronze]

what da helly

[lapis oak]

small rework and visual upgrades

[dusk bronze]

:hognar:

[shut ridge]

Kiri finally got a role

[shut ridge]

they grow up so fast

[lapis oak]

fucked up

[hard hearth]

i should remove it

devour the role and add it to my collection

[lapis oak]

Ein more like

ye

[hard hearth]

go on

[lapis oak]

😊

[hard hearth]

thats what i thought.

[azure oak]

hello mod of calamity talk of update

nice role xzier

[dusk bronze]

thank

looking through charts rn

when will tsuki finish the murasama one smh

[wise bolt]

orios ❗️

[lapis oak]

@pulsar cobalt wake up

[wise bolt]

its da first of da month

[azure oak]

it's the third

[dusk bronze]

are asgard line/ankh tweaks in brainstorm

[wise bolt]

you get what i mean

[azure oak]

i did indeed wake up

[wise bolt]

good morning bro

[azure oak]

was pleasantly surprised to see snow outside

[wise bolt]

YEAHH

[granite smelt]

true

[dusk bronze]

i remember snow..
#fuck arizona

[azure oak]

i don't really have anything going on besides that i just have snow outside

sun's up and it stopped snowing so it'll probably melt soon

[dusk bronze]

doze posted galileo gladius earlier

pretty sick

[summer shore]

qhere

[azure oak]

neat

so is the burrower pet gonna have a unique sprite or is it just gonna stay a stumpy burrower

[lapis oak]

stumpy

[dusk bronze]

@summer shore

[wise bolt]

same thing iirc

[azure oak]

aight

[buoyant pulsar]

finally someone said it

also rebounding rainbow is mid as fuck imo

[dusk bronze]

yeah def could be better

[buoyant pulsar]

diffraction halo or smth

beamsplitter prism

i dunno

[buoyant pulsar]

name it after this thing

[dusk bronze]

that was proposed at one point iirc

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah (me)

(i have strong opinions about rebounding rainbow. doze disagrees lol)

[summer shore]

Eledisk name convo always gives me deja vu

[dusk bronze]

remember the multi day providence sprite discourse

[summer shore]

I wonder

[jagged cliff]

Providence doesn't need a resprite

[dusk bronze]

:walterheisenbergwhite:

[vapid olive]

We long await the Yharon resprite.

[jagged cliff]

Yharon doesn't need one either

[vapid olive]

Wasn't he meant to have a resprite btw?

[summer shore]

I wonder

[jagged cliff]

no thats a psyop from the evil calamity fandom

[buoyant pulsar]

rebounding rainbow is a bad name

mid name

[dusk bronze]

coming Soon™

[blazing field]

rebounding gay

[dusk bronze]

not before sso though

[jagged cliff]

it should be ricocheting rainbow

[buoyant pulsar]

legion of celestia is meaningless and probably an mlp reference

[dusk bronze]

what

[buoyant pulsar]

it should be scintilla shredder idfk

[vapid olive]

Catch the rainbow.

Yes I like musical references.

[jagged cliff]

way too many shredders in the game ngl

also prisms are off the table cause its overused

[summer shore]

I associate the word scintilla more with this user than I associate it with its actual meaning

[buoyant pulsar]

where is prism used

[dusk bronze]

sahara slicers and samsara slicer

[buoyant pulsar]

this is hilarious thank you

[vapid olive]

We only have what 3 last prism-like weapons in calamity?

[blazing field]

sahara like the deseryt

what are the implications of this

[kind isle]

is that his second phase or smth

[blazing field]

sahara canon to calamity mod

[dusk bronze]

last prism
prismalline
prismatic breaker
terraprisma
etc

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah okay

i still think diffraction halo is rlly good though

[blazing field]

africa canon to calamity mod ❓

[jagged cliff]

I'm referring to prism being in the name or as a motif in the weapon

[summer shore]

Unstable pris

[dusk bronze]

idk if there will be a second phase sprite

[buoyant pulsar]

light phenomenon which is also circular

[dusk bronze]

yeah but doesn't really roll off the tongue

yk

[blazing field]

yharim was actually born on zimbabwe for no reaosn

[jagged cliff]

Triactis' True Paladinian Mage-Hammer of Might

[dusk bronze]

intentional joke name

[kind isle]

looks like a second phase
i mean he has armor and stuff on
and he’s fluffier too

[buoyant pulsar]

superradiant slaughterer

[dusk bronze]

this will completely replace the current sprite

[kind isle]

oe

[vapid olive]

Also isn't the Muramasa/Murasama having changes of it having different attacks or smth?

[buoyant pulsar]

8 syllables btw

[dusk bronze]

they're not keeping it 😭

[blazing field]

the current sprite is like 10 years old

[jagged cliff]

Fine Phosphorescent Gauntlet is a shit name

[dusk bronze]

Eventually

[blazing field]

😭

[jagged cliff]

and it isn't even a joke item

[buoyant pulsar]

disagree actually i think its neat

[dusk bronze]

yeag

[gray trench]

I call it srs 'serse'

[blazing field]

i dont see whats wrong with phosphorecent gauntlet

its a fine name

[summer shore]

Magehammer still somehow sound pretty good

[blazing field]

Managun

[dusk bronze]

i prefer Hammer of Super Long Name

[blazing field]

Gunhammer

Gunhammer is good

i like Gunhammer

[summer shore]

gatling laser

beloved

[buoyant pulsar]

rename rebounding rainbow

[summer shore]

Renames you

[buoyant pulsar]

rename me

[vapid olive]

Gunvolt/ref

@blazing field

[summer shore]

No longer crow you are now

Slow

[buoyant pulsar]

i

cant change my server nickname

[vapid olive]

Honestly an electric smg/pistol would be cool

[summer shore]

you need a mod to do it

First step: open tmodloa

[buoyant pulsar]

insanity

[summer shore]

have you opened it yet

[blazing field]

dw i got you

[blazing field]

wuh

[summer shore]

Thank you don cheedle

[buoyant pulsar]

can u change it to Slow259

[blazing field]

Okayt!

[buoyant pulsar]

ty bestfriend

okay its 1:38 im going to bed

[summer shore]

259 slow debuffs

[blazing field]

oh its a reference to the That (i do not know what it is unforutnately)

[summer shore]

can't wait for volterion rework

[jagged cliff]

They should add a item called the unenlightened masses and it will be our final showdown in mgr references

[summer shore]

I love lightning cannons

[dusk bronze]

true!

[blazing field]

we should just rename and rebrand

[summer shore]

you're blue

[blazing field]

mgr mod

supreme calamitas gone

[summer shore]

mega giga ray mod

[blazing field]

shes senator armstrong now

exo mechs more like uhhhh

metal gear excelsus

yep

[summer shore]

metal gear exo

[jagged cliff]

yharim was genuinely supposed to be based on senator armstrong btw

[vapid olive]

Azure Striker Gunvolt.

[summer shore]

Draepilled exocel

[blazing field]

yeah he was also probably gonna use lunatic cultist ai

[jagged cliff]

Still will

[vapid olive]

Remember ancient doomsayer-

[jagged cliff]

Recycled AI is why I play this game

[vapid olive]

Or what the future bosses were named.

[blazing field]

leegriddle ...

[jagged cliff]

I don't actually like calamity, I just like terraria

[summer shore]

This is in reference to how he's a lunatic and kind of a cultist himself

[blazing field]

hitting the leegriddy

[summer shore]

Nobody understands fabsol's genius

[lapis oak]

you just understood it

[blazing field]

Did you know?