calamity-update-talk

[amber egret]

never speak again

[cunning sequoia]

we should kill you violently in the back of a pizzeria

[hushed hazel]

tetanus joe

[rare tinsel]

fnaf reference???

[mystic eagle]

Calamity Mod found in the X-Files!?

[pulsar cobalt]

so removing every item is fine but removing a single npc is considered heresy,,,

i see how it is,,,,,,,

[cunning sequoia]

yes

[rare tinsel]

yeah

[wise bolt]

yo mama is considered heresy

[rare tinsel]

if someone suggested removing witch doctor then that someone will be demoted to corpse very soon

fuck you astrum deus >:(

[mystic eagle]

XBox Live

[grave geyser]

make dealing damage with any item other than slagsplitter pauldron immediately delete 20 files off your pc at random

[split ginkgo]

Its funny

[grave geyser]

if pauldron gets deleted via this the entire computer explodes

[split ginkgo]

Yharim being a freaking lihzhard temple dweller who fucking hates everyone in old lore to being a murderer of gods who became horrified of what he has done

[fierce hearth]

Make the game delete your OS if you hit a boss with the copper shortsword. We need to cull the youtubers first and foremost.

[polar tide]

beyond the point of no return

[wise bolt]

he's not a lihzahrd tho

[wise bolt]

you did this to me

[polar tide]

i did

[mystic eagle]

In adittion to this, 1 random game you own gets deleted for every time you miss with Pauldron

[polar tide]

and i'm proud.

[wise bolt]

[kills you

[polar tide]

kills YOU

[wise bolt]

kills yo MAMA

[split ginkgo]

New lore>old lore

[polar tide]

fail

i saw your typo

fail

[wise bolt]

maybe i should kill myself instead

[rare tinsel]

hey man

[wise bolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1036498900326023208/1036500276741406760/IMG_3634.gif

[rare tinsel]

👎

[amber egret]

aw what the heck

[rare tinsel]

dont talk about things like that

[vocal kelp]

get some free shovelware, delete pauldron entirely, ez

[rare tinsel]

just play the game on windows 11 and you’re fine

[wise bolt]

used to joking around like that, my bad

will be mindful in the future

[grave geyser]

joking about things like that is the wording I would use
you should absolutely talk about things like that if it is at all serious

[rare tinsel]

yeah that’s fair

good point

[wise bolt]

nod

[amber egret]

to be honest i thought it was the ai joker and batman

like a reference to that

[wise bolt]

-# exaggerated humor/habit of saying kms melodramatically to the smallest of inconveniences

probably not appropriate here though

[blazing field]

I understand tofu i also have that habit

I've taken to replacing it with Boar Myself instead

in this server specifically

embrace the boar

[valid crypt]

How had i not noticed that

[royal garnet]

I fully get that first one

[polar tide]

FUKCIJFNFGF. BOAR MYSELF

[deft lily]

[polar tide]

huge fan

[wise bolt]

evil specimen

[wicked temple]

i boarf myself

[dull heart]

Wait that's such a good idea

[long wing]

should have a slugcat pet in the game with the amount of rain world inspiration 🔥

[still bluff]

i'm making the distortion rain world watcher btw

[mighty geyser]

take up the iban distortion sword

[still bluff]

true

it won't be original rain worl though it'll be rain world watcher dlc speicifcalaly

[steep path]

once i heard someone suggest saying "this won't be good for the tour" in place of "im gonna kms" and i haven't used it myself but it's been in the back of my mind... Maybe I should

[modern grove]

Honestly noxus would be so fucking cool if it had personality similar to prince

The only way to make noxus cool I'm afraid

Prince my beloved

[strong isle]

I'm killing everyone who tries to stop Fluffy

[grave geyser]

nobody would do that

[lapis oak]

holy that took a while to backread

[terse dew]

we should set this channel to read only

[wide wadi]

Tell me all the new spoilers

[lapis oak]

there's been no spoilers since the 90s

[wide wadi]

[mighty geyser]

calamity's cancelled, everyone go home

[grave geyser]

yknow, if I'm fluffy I can leak all their summoner changes
lets see here...
oh.
that's strange
all it says is "buff sentries again" and "double snapthorn base damage"

[misty wren]

i have a strange feeling...

it feels like...

brainstom

[still bluff]

[grave geyser]

the world had to know the truth

[split ginkgo]

There should be a control reference

In Calamity

[tropic jolt]

[dull heart]

[wicked temple]

what's prince's personality

[lapis oak]

this gif is so fucked up I can't

[dull heart]

[lapis oak]

😭

[mighty geyser]

oh hello dog slug

is dog slug posting still going strong

[still bluff]

i'm genuinely not sure what it would be tho lol
the service weapon isn't especially interesting in its mechanics

[mystic eagle]

@lapis oak Kiriwhite? More like Kiriblue! Hahahahahahahahahaha

Kiriblue, do not mpreg react me

[terse dew]

react perms are so powerful

[mystic eagle]

This is humiliaton

[vestal osprey]

Right now were in the silksong levels of losing it waiting.

We need a new update soon or else were going down the half life fandom

[dull heart]

hello

I did something today

[vestal osprey]

what you do?

[dull heart]

something

[lapis oak]

rare

[mystic eagle]

A trailer that costs 5 bucks to see?

[vocal kelp]

Add the shapeshifting thingy from the new game

Its aura and hype moments

[vestal osprey]

Can I see?

[deft lily]

w h y a r e y o u b l u e ?

[dull heart]

no

[vestal osprey]

:("

[vocal kelp]

Today we killed people

[dull heart]

i can tell what it is though

[vocal kelp]

Cold blood

[dull heart]

i made the difficulty ui better today

[lapis oak]

I'm bluu

[dull heart]

and I bought factorio space age so see you in 3 years

[mystic eagle]

3 people got the reddit gold treatment

[deft lily]

I see

[vocal kelp]

Can you guys add destiny mode indicator if in gfb

[deft lily]

Im too cool to be blue

[vestal osprey]

Yeah you got your cool auric color

[mystic eagle]

There's literally a shade of blue in your colour gradient

[dull heart]

I made the difficult indicator update on FTW since dandy made new sprites for the icons including ones for the ftw difficulties

[deft lily]

true

[dull heart]

so on FTW you now can pick

expert - rev
master - death
legendary - malice

while other worlds have
classic
expert - rev
master - death

[lapis oak]

is it about putting bunnies in cages

like someone said a while ago

[dull heart]

the icons for vanilla difficulties use bunnies yes

Like vanilla

[lapis oak]

gotcha

[dull heart]

we decided on explosive bunny for legendary because it's ftw only

[mystic eagle]

It's rare seeing long-time active white roles nowadays

[vestal osprey]

I've been white for like a year

[grave geyser]

mhm

[mystic eagle]

What about GFB

[lyric yoke]

when did a thrasher killing the angler give like 21 items? was that in a recent update?

[vivid hemlock]

what

[hoary meteor]

No in world ui now?

[lyric yoke]

I remember doing it for just the gold rod but not this much stuff

[rancid pagoda]

hwat

[hoary meteor]

That's cool

[lapis oak]

that's like 80% of people 😭

[lusty stirrup]

this is fucking hilarious

[rancid pagoda]

gonna guess it's an addon thing

[deft lily]

most people in this discord are just here for change logs so, yeah.

That or to start drama in cmt

[mystic eagle]

Is it though? Most active people from a few years ago are no longer white roles

[lyric yoke]

I didnt think so but it could be I have a small amount of other mods

[vestal osprey]

I just come on here to ragebait by asking stupid questions

[barren hollow]

Hey I personally am here to give my dogshit opinions and then still give advice

[deft lily]

Most*

[dull heart]

It's from the in world ui

[mystic eagle]

The feeling of participatng in Internet drama on Discord persists through me

[dull heart]

what about gfb

[vestal osprey]

I give some advice for the difficut modes like im a pro and not a loser who used wing slot

[barren hollow]

Wait I've only been on this for less than a year? That can't be right I've been playing cal for years at this point. It was basically the reason I joined discord

[deft lily]

im sure it does...

[dull heart]

gfb is also ftw

[deft lily]

[mystic eagle]

Ah

[barren hollow]

Maybe I left at some point?

[vestal osprey]

Isnt gfb its own difficulty with all the bizzare boss changes

[grave geyser]

your oldest message on this server is may 2025

[dull heart]

gfb in vanilla does almost no boss changes

the boss changes are almost entirely ftw

[rancid pagoda]

not in vanilla, it just combines the other seeds' changes

[dull heart]

Except like mechdusa

[grave geyser]

and moon boulders

[dull heart]

And yea

[grave geyser]

but thats becoming ftw next update

[rancid pagoda]

mini bosses from celebrationmk10

[dull heart]

GFB is just combining all the other seeds together

[grave geyser]

^

[vocal kelp]

1.4.5 is gona go crazy with the seed combos

[mystic eagle]

Critaquil, what happened?

[vestal osprey]

In calamity some bosses completly change

[grave geyser]

seed combos are gonna be so fire

[dull heart]

I'm so ready to have 1.4.5 skyblock seed

[mystic eagle]

Why are you fluffy

[dull heart]

I'm ready to code cal support

[vestal osprey]

Most notably cryogen and Scal

[vocal kelp]

Skyblock dontdigup calamity mod support tomorrow or you're all dying

[barren hollow]

Honestly I'm kinda confused. I know I've been around longer than that.

[grave geyser]

ok so kijash stole my name and fluffy wasnt using theirs so I'm borrowing it
its very sandy

[dull heart]

I have a couple weeks to play factorio space age and the other games I bought on steam for the sale and then 1.4.5 and 2.1 and planning for 1.4.5 port

[barren hollow]

I guess it doesn't actually matter

[mystic eagle]

Honestly valid reasoning

[vocal kelp]

1.4.5 2.1 hytale triple release week going crazy

[still bluff]

yea i don't use my name here tbh

[vestal osprey]

Its gonna be a bit before tmod loader gets to 1.4.5 though

[dull heart]

you just use mine instead

[still bluff]

trueeee

[dull heart]

Yeah but once we know how 1.4.5 works we can begin preparing for it

[mystic eagle]

SSO January-February still holds true

[vestal osprey]

Oh hell yeah, big brain update and sso in the same months

[mystic eagle]

Maybe not this year though

[vestal osprey]

I'm gonna absolutly expect this to be the case

If not, you can bet I will complain on reddit

[lapis oak]

SSO before BS

[vestal osprey]

SSO before gta 6

[mystic eagle]

SSO before Persona 6

[dull heart]

BSSO

[vestal osprey]

SSO before I get a girlfriend

[grave geyser]

bountiful sunken sea overharvest

[mystic eagle]

& Knuckles

[vocal kelp]

Six whips

[grave geyser]

missing a zero

[fathom girder]

Surprise! 1.4.5 restructures the entire codebase and now you have to completely remake calamity mod

[lapis oak]

@dull heart I posted it here already why u commenting on the Reddit post instead 😭

[fathom girder]

surely dev presence in the red nation will calm them down just a tiny bit

[dull heart]

actually

The alcohol post has one negative comment on it

[split ginkgo]

sso before hl3

[dull heart]

And it has -17 votes

The alcohol rework is being REALLY well received

[lapis oak]

ye the Red

the Red Nation really likes booze

[dull heart]

Is the original file for the alcohol rework chart in the one drive & do you mind if I post it in #spoilers

[lapis oak]

ye I'm fine

[valid crypt]

What the fuck why did kiri become blue

[dull heart]

KiriBlue

[valid crypt]

Is it blue from a glow of radiation from us nuking em

[autumn compass]

Kiri change your name

[lapis oak]

wtf

no

[valid crypt]

Become kiriBlue

[lapis oak]

😨 sounds terrifying

[wise bolt]

bro's cool

[valid crypt]

If theres blue wheres green and red

Rgb

[lapis oak]

omg wait

hell yeah

[wise bolt]

oh yeah unrelated. guess who finally got medicated for adhd

[lapis oak]

wow congrats

[wise bolt]

maybe i WILL be doing 5 billion concept arts.

[valid crypt]

Yoo

[grave geyser]

hype

[lapis oak]

sounds like the 2026 grind will go insanely hard

[iron dew]

can you name yourself KiriGreen

[deft lily]

burp

[lapis oak]

😠

[wise bolt]

UNFORTUNATELY HOWEVER. i am starting uni

hello umbara

[deft lily]

hi

[vivid hemlock]

🍅

[dull heart]

now to wait for the mura yt short

[deft lily]

"anything but yharim smh"

[dull heart]

nah actually reddit is being almost entirely positive about this

[high maple]

anything but jagermeister

[valid crypt]

I have replied to like 8 of those comments on the last vid

[dull heart]

so like

[grave geyser]

congratulations you did the impossible

[lyric trellis]

Chart doesn’t include the yield numbers for each alcohol, failure

[hasty hawk]

“what are they nerfing this time”

[hasty tangle]

whiskey becoming gemtech lite, i see

[deft lily]

im sorry for ur loss

[dull heart]

it doesn't include any numbers for good reason tbf

[high maple]

umbara betraying my trust

[dull heart]

in case they change in dev

[hasty tangle]

are alcohols still limited to 3 btw

[dull heart]

yes

[high maple]

losing jagermeister is 1984

[hasty hawk]

pretty sure Old Fashioned is the same as current

[grave geyser]

yes

[teal bone]

Remember that next update doesnt have content because Sunken Sea isnt in it

[dull heart]

but if that turns out unfun then i'll change it

[valid crypt]

seen someone also disregard sso because no new boss

[dull heart]

i don't think it needs to be undone and it helps keep the insane combos some of these have in check

if you use white wine + red wine + carribbean rum you're no longer able to use something to buff damage

[hasty hawk]

we never had Jagermeister tho

tbh a good idea tho

[lyric trellis]

True, could maybe have included a little note about multiple alcohols being gotten in a batch but whatever blame kiri

[grave geyser]

3 feels like a good limited except for maybe everclear
frankly for how much bulk you lose it feels like it counting as 2 alchs is just kind of brutal

[rare tinsel]

is Everclear still bad

[fathom girder]

yoooo kiri spoiler

congrats kiri you're cool now

[hasty hawk]

Everclear is decent but the downside makes it people that are not nohitters avoid it like the plague

its KiriBlue now

[valid crypt]

@lapis oak

Wrong

[hasty hawk]

thats our attack

[tropic jolt]

kiri is finally cool

[fallow snow]

i was about to ask what would happen if you chugged all alcohol variants, but then i remembered that this mod has poisoning in it

[dull heart]

it is unchanged

[fallow snow]

yes it's been a while since i played

[rare tinsel]

Everclear is still bad 😔

[dull heart]

honestly though i'd like to add back something like cirrus dress to unlimit alcohol that'd be cool

[fallow snow]

is there actually alcohol poisoning in the mod? /genq

[rare tinsel]

Yes

[lapis oak]

I MENTIONED IT IN THE REDDIT POST TEXT IT'S JUST NOT IN THE IMAGE

😭

[grave geyser]

chestplate was always a bad pick for an item like this tbh
feel like helmet works better

"poison filtration helmet"

[rare tinsel]

If you drink more than three drinks then you suffer Alcohol Poisoning. It’s a debuff that disables positive life regeneration and subtracts 4 life regeneration per drink.

[fallow snow]

yeah i must have forgotten. or i maybe alchemistnpc had some item that fused all alcohol items together harmlessly

[fathom girder]

could make it like "Drinker's Crown" or some nonsense

it'd be funny

[wraith girder]

The Dress That Has No Connection To Any Former Calamity Devs Whatsoever

[fathom girder]

Fables Dress

yeah

[rare tinsel]

tbh I did really want to like Cirrus’ Dress

[hasty hawk]

Something like a big liver, or a non organic liver

[vocal kelp]

Crown of Fables

[fallow snow]

Normal Purple Dress

[still bluff]

calamity will never have a realu pdate again 💔

[fathom girder]

There we go

Crown of fables

[lavish otter]

Ozzatron's Dress, it's exactly the same but with Ozzatron colors

[hasty hawk]

Add Jill Stingray cosplay

[still bluff]

crown of fables 🔥

[vocal kelp]

Cirrus dress was always going to be bad in the environment it was born in

[grave geyser]

fabled crown sounds better but something something name drop

[hasty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/va11halla-jill-jill-stingray-happy-friday-vallhalla-gif-16721227675035900932

[dull heart]

it might have been good if not for slowing yoou down

[vocal kelp]

Like calamity was actively cracking down on ooa armor mixing at the moment it was not going to go well

[hasty hawk]

AND taking a chestplate slot

[fallow snow]

we already have draedon's heart, what if we get the rest of his organs then

[split ginkgo]

ngl tho

[rare tinsel]

it was a weaker slowdown than Ursa Sergeant you’re fine

[lyric trellis]

Damn now you have to go back to Reddit

[split ginkgo]

Princess clothes>Forbidden npc dress

[still bluff]

that's it kiri back to the reddit mines

[dull heart]

yeah but you also lost chestplate

[fathom girder]

Welp

[rare tinsel]

Yeah

[fathom girder]

cool guy revoked from kiri

rip kiri

[grave geyser]

actually maybe helmet is bad given how many stats are usually shoved in there
but I suppose the counterbalance is that infinite alchs is probably really strong

[lapis oak]

WHAT U MEAN I literally mentioned it in the Reddit post they know

😭

[vivid hemlock]

shut it bluey

[dull heart]

legs is bad bc then it can't stack with ml legs

helmet is bad bc then it can't stack with fish bowl

[lyric trellis]

You’re gonna have to stay there

[dull heart]

therefor chest

[rare tinsel]

Real gamers use Cirrus’ Dress, Molsk Shellmet and Moom Lord Dress

[grave geyser]

cant stack with gi smh

[fathom girder]

Generally speaking, having it take ANY armor piece is an insane tradeoff that really depends on the power of the alcohols

[grave geyser]

armor piece is the only that makes sense
acc is frankly wayy too strong

[dull heart]

new alcohols could make it worth it especially if it's unlimited

[fathom girder]

So that armor piece basically has the stats of your favorite alcohols, and now you have to compare that to the armor piece you'd use otherwise

[dull heart]

yknow what's really funny

[grave geyser]

what if it could be any armor piece

[fathom girder]

I'd say make it take the most important armor piece, if that even exists in calamity armor design

[dull heart]

if you stack the 4 debuff class alcohols they all cancel out to no benefit

[hard copper]

Are the new enchants in 2.1?

[lyric trellis]

Alcohol jungle rose

[split ginkgo]

nah

[hasty hawk]

unlikely

[split ginkgo]

Real gamers wear princess outfits

[hard copper]

Ok

[fathom girder]

Ozz said they'd show up a bit later if they don't show up in 2.1, didn't he

[split ginkgo]

A fucking rainbow excalibur

[fathom girder]

I swear I saw that on the day of brainstorm's trailer

[urban star]

Margarita could seem good

[hasty hawk]

Both are same branch and havent gotten an email that they were pulled in so no enchants on 2.1

[rose laurel]

Hey guys

[fathom girder]

vriska hi

[rose laurel]

I just realized that Zerg Potion can fucking die now

[dull heart]

yeah them and some other branches are waiting till post 2.1

[grave geyser]

I think the ultimate balancing act of making it an armor piece is that you can still give said armor piece stats that arnt the alch buff

[dull heart]

because we don't wanna add more testing load

[valid crypt]

What was stopping that

[lavish otter]

Also I kind of have a question since I just saw the alcohol spoiler (and sorry if this has already been asked before), but why does the Fireball decrease sickness damage instead of like...cold or water?

[dull heart]

heat and sickness are the most commontypes

it's a balance choice

[rose laurel]

The fact that removing it would have our kneecaps 8roken

[dull heart]

i also set up an elemental type circle for these

[valid crypt]

And that changed how

[urban star]

Why does any alchohol reduce sickness at all

[fathom girder]

if you kill zerg I'm blowing up the universe despite never actually using it

[lavish otter]

Ahhh fair! I was thinking it'd be a balancing thing, I just wasn't fully sure

[terse dew]

what is 8roken

[grave geyser]

if zerg dies zen should too
they're still kind of counterparts

[valid crypt]

Broken

[rose laurel]

8loody Mary

[fathom girder]

nahhh zen's fine from a balance standpoint

imo

[grave geyser]

is it though

[still bluff]

alcohol that makes you take no debuff damage at all then unloads it all on you at the end of the duration

[lyric trellis]

New boss zen alcohol when you summoner deerclops

[rose laurel]

It's just Zerg 8ut actually 8alanced

[valid crypt]

I see

[urban star]

I have an Easter egg idea if u get every alcohol and drink em at once it makes your screen swirly like ur drunk

[fathom girder]

it makes the terraria things more comfortable

[rose laurel]

Zen does not give you any progress, infact it does the exact opposite

[valid crypt]

P sure you will just fucking die

[dull heart]

heat -> sickness -> electric -> cold -> water -> heat

[grave geyser]

turning off enemy spawns contributes a ton to the "regular enemies arn't real" aspect of cal

[dull heart]

is the circle

heat alc reduces sickness, sickness reduces electic, so on

[lyric trellis]

Huge for the 3 electric debuffs

[fathom girder]

this sounds like a term either you or the red nation just made up, unfortunately

[lapis oak]

Zen is pretty overkill ngl, enemies just don't exist because I say so

[dull heart]

this also ensures that the heat buff reduces sickenss and, because water and sickness are together, the sickness buff reduces heat

[deft lily]

I agree

[rose laurel]

Either way in any case we can just move Zen later in progression 8ecause right now the only stage it impacts in any meaningful way is HM

[fathom girder]

the benefits to enemies basically not existing doesn't gain you much advantage outside of building or fishing, and fishing is getting a minor nerf anyway

[rose laurel]

Everything else relies on enemies to progress

[fathom girder]

zerg makes farms and grinds nonexistant

which granted is a whole other argument

[hasty hawk]

Tbh you COULD keep Zerg too, but make it post-Scal and finally give Ashes of Anhilation a use thats not Shadowspec bars

[fathom girder]

I mean who wants to actually grind post DoG moon events

lmao

[still bluff]

true

[lapis oak]

nerf Zen duration I mean like 15 minutes for 1 pot really

[grave geyser]

what term

[rose laurel]

You need to kill Profaned Enemies to kill Providence, you need to kill Ghosts to kill Polterghast, you need to kill Abyss Minibosses for the loot, and so on and so forth

[deft lily]

i think calamity should remove every buff, including vanilla ones

[still bluff]

true

[blazing field]

kiriwhite mention in spoiler

its over?

[valid crypt]

Remove code

[deft lily]

delete the mod
millions are forced to go outside

[rose laurel]

Either way Zerg is like

[lapis oak]

wtf why u saying like I'm a wanted criminal in 40 different countries

[rose laurel]

300 times more unhealthy than Zen

[sturdy thistle]

WOW
I
REALLY LIKE THAT

[valid crypt]

Thats true

[rose laurel]

We kill Hitler and then see what we will do with Himmler later

[tribal isle]

live and learn

[lapis oak]

😭

[vocal kelp]

What if calamity added going deeper for more content

[grave geyser]

insane sentance out of context

[tribal isle]

why did you become kiriblue

[rose laurel]

Anyways yeah

Zerg can finally explode amem

[sturdy thistle]

Genuinely very interesting
Means any low crit builds in general can just use this and be fine and I'm more than fine with that

[lapis oak]

I'm bluu

[sturdy thistle]

Tank ranger with this sounds awesome

[tribal isle]

My special attack

You’re blue now

[fathom girder]

Purity in infernum is gonna make this really funny

[valid crypt]

Wait true

Lmao

[hasty hawk]

btw @dull heart make sure Grape beer is turned off when using the other enchant (sucks that I cant name reveal it now lol)

[blazing field]

wait is zerg dying with the bloody mary changes or something

[vivid hemlock]

the world will end

[blazing field]

what'd i miss

[rose laurel]

It's my goal

8loody Mary is just a healthier Zerg

It's actually 8alanced

[blazing field]

yeah it literally is lol

[grave geyser]

grape beer + margarita + some third thing

[blazing field]

you cant mass stack 500 bloody maries probably

atleast not easily

like you can with zerg

[dull heart]

yeah if it checks homing properly that'll happen by default

[valid crypt]

I will actually use alcohols now

[hasty hawk]

ah good then

[split ginkgo]

Zerg potion made things so much easier so we should rebalance it

[sturdy thistle]

This is just a flat buff

[hasty hawk]

otherwise Ranger would just get an absurd dmg boost for free (and defeat the point of the enchant)

[grave geyser]

uep

[split ginkgo]

Ez

[blazing field]

I did use then before but mostly just everclear and uhhh wine

and also vodka i think

but this is just more fun

[grave geyser]

look moonshine got butchered we needed a win

[rose laurel]

No it's moreso that 8loody Mary kneecaps your pierce which is the pro8lem with Zerg

[dull heart]

maybe, until you use daybreak or stardust cell or stratus items

[rancid pagoda]

if zen goes away you can still spawn block by wearing fairy boots because the fairies count towards local spawn limits

[blazing field]

Also that too

[hasty hawk]

yea this one might be a bit too strong

[rose laurel]

Calamity makes pierce options so ludicrously powerful that what should make Zerg 8alanced is just not real

[valid crypt]

Bloody mary nukes last prism?

[rose laurel]

8loody Mary is Zerg 8ut actually 8alanced

So

[sturdy thistle]

Oh noooooooooooooo

Anyways true melee anyone?

[dull heart]

galileo gladius is true melee smh

[blazing field]

A consumable that increases enemy spawnrate but alaso makes your piercing worse so you have a harder time dealing with crowds of enemies is a pretty cool idea

And with the added bonus that bloody mary is probably harder to get 50 stacks of compared to zerg

[hasty hawk]

also is there a relevant typless debuff besides the bleed ones and elemental mix?

[grave geyser]

speaking of
moonshine is the only changed one that I hazard to call outright bad lol

[sturdy thistle]

Hmmmge

I hope the buff on this one is fairly big bc mana regen is so fucking strong

[lapis oak]

does alcohol buff stays after deaths?

[rose laurel]

And here's the neat part

[blazing field]

god slayer inferno, miracle thingamabob, uhh

[valid crypt]

Is this not just a mana flower buff

[dull heart]

it makes BFC better because you get double the healing per hit taken :)

[rose laurel]

8loody Mary (pro8a8ly) doesn't kneecap traps

[dull heart]

it doesn't work with mana sickness but this doesn't mention it

[rose laurel]

So you can still just make an AFK trap and reap the rewards

[deft lily]

haha new alcohol make me go burp

[lapis oak]

I know you can't cancel alcohols normally but do they stay after deaths tho

[dull heart]

they do not

i might make them do it though

[grave geyser]

ok but you didnt need that health at full health anyway
and if you get double hit you're extra fucked

[lapis oak]

do it

[dull heart]

just bc they're so rare

[lapis oak]

yeah

it's good to makes them work like flasks

[sterile moss]

Yoooo infinite flight time for true melee with white wine

[dull heart]

defense damage takes 2 seconds instead of 1 to recoever with moonshine

it's fine

[blazing field]

some of them require some pretty hard to cocme by materials so losing an alcohol instantly because you died would be kind of a bummer

[dull heart]

yeah i agree

that's why i think i'll make them persist through death

[lapis oak]

awesome

just to make Bloody Mary even more punishing

[dull heart]

bloody mary persisting through death is a little evil

but oh well!

[grave geyser]

yeash I was about to say

[dull heart]

if you use it unprepared L

[grave geyser]

you could make them disapear on relog

[rose laurel]

I think 8loody Mary is the one who shouldn't persist through death actually

[valid crypt]

Make it stronger per death

[lyric trellis]

Lesson on why you don't drink, it'll follow you even after death

[dull heart]

if any of them do i want all of them do to be consistent to player expectations

[lapis oak]

eh it's like 6 minutes

it's fine

[sterile moss]

Maybe an alcohol strength mechanic? Like grape beer wont last but everclear will

[vocal kelp]

Just make them cancelable

No reason for them not to be atp

[dull heart]

bloody mary is 100% not supposed to be cancelable

that's part of the intended balance of it

[rose laurel]

Player expectations don't rely on patterns created through a set but what should 8e the most reasona8le

[dull heart]

if you use it you're committing to the hordes for the next 6 minutes

[valid crypt]

If you use it be ready to deal with it the entire time

[rose laurel]

Specially in the case of something like 8loody Mary

It stands as a clear outlier in the set of alcohols

People wouldn't 8e 8affled that it works differently 8ecause it's Different

[dull heart]

i think i'm going to let it persist for now and if it sucks it'll be reverted

[rose laurel]

No it's not 8ecause of that Doze

It's 8ecause if it persists through death that means there's no real punishment for dying through your grinding session

[dull heart]

bloody mary isn't really very expensive anyway

it's one bloody tear for 10 of them

[rose laurel]

8loody Mary is a commitment in many ways and that includes in the risk of dying and losing the effect

[dull heart]

so like dying losing the buff isn't much of a punishment at all

[rose laurel]

Well it's still a punishment

[lapis oak]

so when they done farming they can just die to lose the buff? isn't that like the opposite of making it uncancellable

[dull heart]

i think, if anything, having to deal with insane spawns outside of where you prepared for is a bigger punishment

[dull heart]

this too

good pouint

[rose laurel]

And I think that's necessary to make 8loody Mary properly 8alanced, specially if we go the route of having it replace Zerg

[sterile moss]

No more Zerg potions?

[dull heart]

being able to die to cancel it kinda kills the point of it not being cancelable imo

[hard copper]

make the player hardcore if they have bloodymary debuff clearly

[rose laurel]

I might 8e underestimating how hard it is to fight things with 8loody Mary

[dull heart]

every projectile loses 25% damage per enemy hit

[rose laurel]

Essentially all of them have 4 Pierce then

[sterile moss]

Does this include big ass swords?

[dull heart]

no bc it's multiplicative

[grave geyser]

how does this work if you have neutralized a damaging debuff
like with astral infection with infected jewel equiped

[rose laurel]

I trust you to have made it 8alanced

[dull heart]

stuff that has pierce exemption instead does 33% dmg always

[dull heart]

i think it stays neutralized but idr

[rose laurel]

8ut I assumed it would 8e a comically heavy kneecap

[lapis oak]

should includes everything yes

[dull heart]

pretty sure it just multiplies all debuff dmg taken at the end of the debuff method

[grave geyser]

would you still gain the regen once it expires?

[dull heart]

yes

i think

[grave geyser]

insane radiance synergy

[dull heart]

this reminds me to reduce radiance from halving to -25% duration

thanks

[lyric trellis]

Another 500 updates of Radiance dominance

[rose laurel]

I'm pro8a8ly going to do a 8rainstorm pt so I will 8e the judge

[woeful yarrow]

Please do optimization for exo mechs fight if you can

[rose laurel]

We are doing a lot more than just optimizing it my guy

[grave geyser]

speaking of radiance does that effect stack with margarita

[woeful yarrow]

Really?

A rework?

[rose laurel]

Yes 8ecause the entire fucking team thinks the fight sucks a8solute ass

[woeful yarrow]

Cause the fight if very laggy with weapon dragon bow

[rose laurel]

I don't even know if this is meant to 8e a secret 8ut I dou8t it ever was

[blazing field]

I don't think it is a secret at all

[rose laurel]

It's not a secret that the entire team despises that fight

[woeful yarrow]

Why do you use 8 instead of B

[blazing field]

Plenty of devs have said yeah the fight is dogshit we wanna remake it

[dull heart]

oops i almost just made odd mushroom persist through death

[amber egret]

typing quirk

[rose laurel]

8ecause I'm fucking awesome that's why

[amber egret]

also which fight

[rose laurel]

Exos

[amber egret]

ah yea those guys

[woeful yarrow]

The fight it's good

[amber egret]

potential fights

[woeful yarrow]

But the lagg

[rose laurel]

This is a Dragon Pow pro8lem 8tw

[amber egret]

wrong!

[grave geyser]

odd mushroom when I hit it with a 22 kiloton bomb

[dull heart]

death isn't strong enough to stop this trip

[autumn compass]

This would be hilarious

[woeful yarrow]

Also with the post dog weapon ( and the second in the great sword of judgment line)

[rose laurel]

That's 8eing reworked

[dull heart]

oh and Moscow Mule is -20% dmg per hit enemy btw, 70% dmg dealt by immune stuff

[rose laurel]

No longer a lag machine

[woeful yarrow]

Good

[dull heart]

mule might be alitttle punishing

[amber egret]

i feel you could name a weapon and its reworked

[rose laurel]

Isn't it hilarious how most of the laggy weapons are just dust monstrosities?

[grave geyser]

I would say moscow mule with the tungsten armor synergy but uhh
hardmode

[woeful yarrow]

That's remaind me of pharaoh course from sots mod

[dull heart]

if you use bloody mary + mule you lose 40% of the dmg per hit enemy lool

[blazing field]

screwdriver rework <3

[amber egret]

these devs think this mods a game

making screwdriver buff building

[lyric trellis]

Worth it

[amber egret]

they think theyre so funny

[rose laurel]

I will never forget the day Kanaya brought up to Fa8shit that Elemental Lance is a lag monster and that asshole said

"Oh but we shouldn't care about potatoes"

Motherfucker

[grave geyser]

elemental lance when it

[rose laurel]

Our PC can't handle Elemental Lance and we have a pretty fucking good one

[grave geyser]

2:12

[amber egret]

what did elemental lance do again

[woeful yarrow]

🙂

Huh

[amber egret]

its another effing elemental melee weapon i cant be bothered to remember

[grave geyser]

split into like 8 projectiles per split
it split several times

[woeful yarrow]

I never thought that fabsol era was shit

[rose laurel]

It pisses me off when people can't understand that a "potato PC" is just a normal fucking one in most countries of this planet

[amber egret]

shittiest calamity will ever be

[distant raft]

didnt elemental lance split into like 30 each split for an update

[rose laurel]

Yes

[grave geyser]

yes

[amber egret]

sorry 30

[rose laurel]

He just decided that it should do that one day

Never told anyone

Didn't even 8other to test it

[amber egret]

smartest fucking developer guys

[rose laurel]

Made the commit alongside some random shit

[woeful yarrow]

Hmmm

[grave geyser]

how to hit the projectile cap in 5 easy steps
because 5 is the amount of times you will need to fire the weapon to hit it

[amber egret]

dev of the decade

[rose laurel]

Wrong

[woeful yarrow]

From your words
He sounds like a prison guard

[grave geyser]

was it even less

[rose laurel]

You needed to fire it once

[grave geyser]

incredible

up there with cosmic rainbow

[vivid hemlock]

what a calamity

[rose laurel]

Pff

[amber egret]

draconic sun but like more

[rose laurel]

I would at least respect a prison guard

[amber egret]

and worse

[woeful yarrow]

Pedro?

Pedo#####?

What is pff mean

[amber egret]

exhale of air

[rose laurel]

Nothing it's just

Expression

[amber egret]

suppressed laughter

[rose laurel]

A sound

[dull heart]

okay alcohols now persist through death

your fire feather is now a guaranteed 2 hours of red wine

[blazing field]

my pc not even a potato this shit a garlic

[amber egret]

why might i ask

[blazing field]

because some of these materials are really rare

[woeful yarrow]

Yep

[sterile oyster]

is there a new money dupe glitch since the update?

[fathom girder]

Death stops not the alcoholism

[woeful yarrow]

At least he just doing what he was told

[blazing field]

And it'd kinda suck to immediately lose it after you spent a while grinding for said material because you died to a goblin or something

[amber egret]

such as might i ask

[woeful yarrow]

From your words

[blazing field]

Have you looked at the chart?

[dull heart]

why do they persist though death? because the ingredients are rare and boss attempts can go so fast

[rose laurel]

No he was never told to do anything he was just an asshole

[blazing field]

yeah ^

[dull heart]

most of them in #spoilers

[woeful yarrow]

Fabsol was like a corrupted president of a middle east

County

[amber egret]

these dont look toooo expensive

are they cancellable at least

[grave geyser]

insane comparison but I'm listening

[dull heart]

no they're not cancelable

[amber egret]

terrifying

[woeful yarrow]

That's the truth

[dull heart]

fire feather/ice feather?

[rose laurel]

HAH

Not innacurate

[woeful yarrow]

Half of middle east president in the last 10 years are just robing and destroying their countrys
Some are robing and doing some good things ( as cover)
And some are More than monsters in human flesh

[amber egret]

dont those drop from moderately uncommon enemies

[deft lily]

brainstorm tomorrow

[blazing field]

Fire feather, ice feather, giant harpy featherf

alot of feathers

Those are all pretty rare

[dull heart]

yes at a rare chance

[naive ice]

FEATHER

[blazing field]

black lens

[amber egret]

idk i might be qolrotted

[blazing field]

fire feathers drop from red devils at a really low chance

ice ceathers are from ice golems at a really low chance

[dull heart]

fire feather is 2% chance from red devils

[woeful yarrow]

Deltarune chapter 5 this year

[blazing field]

black lenses are from demon eyes at a abysmally low chance

[deft lily]

never played deltarune
never will

[blazing field]

idk wtf qol does but i never play iwth any qol mods and on the avergae playthrough i have like

[dull heart]

(33% chance actually so not terrible)

[blazing field]

3 black lenses at most when i get to the lategame

[blazing field]

Damn thought it was lower

does kinda balance it out since they're a v rare enemy already

[dull heart]

and black lens is 1% from demon/wandering eyes

[amber egret]

i get like five by mid hardmode what

[blazing field]

do they work like regular alcohol

So you can just like get the nurse to remove them

[dull heart]

alcohol can't be removed by the nurse

[blazing field]

by lategame i mean around ml because i dont play calamity btw

shouldve specified

[dull heart]

i think

lemme check

[grave geyser]

cant it be removed if you have sickness

[blazing field]

p sure in basegame tipsy counts as a debuff so you can just remove it through the nurse

dunno if calamity changes that

assuming the other alcohols count as a debuff then it would theoretically

[dull heart]

in the code they're all non-removable by nurse

idk about tipsy

[dull heart]

no clue tbh

[blazing field]

Seems like kind of a odd choice to just make them non-removable

What's that for

[dull heart]

idk it's just how it was

i'm not sure if i want them to be nursable or not (specifically bloody mary)

[fathom girder]

you can't cure grape juice

[deft lily]

how does the lion concern himself with becoming blue

[dull heart]

When the player has this debuff, they will droop their eyes.
WHAT

tipsy does that???

[fathom girder]

That's funny

[amber egret]

darkness also does that

[fathom girder]

alcohol poisoning should also do that

[amber egret]

and being below half health

[blazing field]

yeah

[dull heart]

sigh now i need to do this to all the alcohols (i don't care enough to do it )

[fathom girder]

no no

just do it to poisoning, cuz only that one's a debuff :)

surely

the tavernkeep's alcohol is just bad quality or something idk

[neat dock]

whiskey pog

[blazing field]

hey man drunk princess is dead we can stop the tavernkeep slander now

leave my guy alone he's got like

a cool moustache

[fathom girder]

no

[blazing field]

he looks like tim lockwood

[fathom girder]

I know the guy from dungeon defenders 2

[deft lily]

tavernkeep try to be useful challenge (impossible)

[rancid pagoda]

Nurse cures Tipsy, it's only consistent if she cures all alcohols

[fathom girder]

you don't wanna know the guy

[dull heart]

what's fun about this is i've seen people excited for almost every alcohol on there (except the debuff boosters)

[grave geyser]

I forgot the tavernkeep had hair ngl

you've seen people excited about moonshine?

[fathom girder]

I'll be the debuff boosters' number one fan then

I love my debuffs

aestheticus meta incoming

[dull heart]

ok nobody has said anything about moonshine either

or red wine

or purple haze or star beam rye

[grave geyser]

mpg said something about star beam

[deft lily]

i hate alcohol

[dull heart]

oh true

[deft lily]

it tastes bad

[amber egret]

Fifteen Thousand DPS.

[deft lily]

🤮

[amber egret]

isnt amalgam also boosting dps damage

[dull heart]

starbeam might be really broken or really bad and idk which

[grave geyser]

my moneys on both

[fathom girder]

starbeam rye does what again

[grave geyser]

it'l be completete shit outside of certain builds where its broken

[heavy sphinx]

Purple haze sound very bad

[fathom girder]

Oh!

That'll be busted with chaos stone then

[dull heart]

it's not bad if you play hybrid

[amber egret]

but doze you must understand i hate whimsy and joy

and can’t comprehend playing more than one class

[dull heart]

there are some weapons good to hybrid in the game actually

[grave geyser]

only 1000 more changes and one full class rework before hybrid is finally real outside of final dawn

[dull heart]

like 2.1 wulfrum knives and final dawn

[lapis oak]

Final what?

[heavy sphinx]

Buff grape beer 🗣🗣🗣🗣

[lapis oak]

that got changed?

[dull heart]

no

final dawn has always been a hybrid weapon

[grave geyser]

final dawn is just
the one weapon where hybrid is really good

[lyric trellis]

This would imply final dawn is real…

[dull heart]

2.1 wulfrum knives don't even require armor to hybrid!

[grave geyser]

rust and dust trailer was actually the end of final dawn it burned in that border fire

[dull heart]

actually there's one more weapon that hybrids, Vega

vega starburst attack counts as a stealth strike

[lyric trellis]

True

Favorite trailer moment

Final dawn into tornado

[grave geyser]

there is no way in hell stratus set ends up being balanced and I cannot wait

[dull heart]

vega and wulfrum knives finally letting stealth exist without armor 🔥

[lyric trellis]

Stratus is either all A tier or all E tier

[dull heart]

yeah i need to do some balancing passes on it for sure but it's def not gonna be super balanced

[dull heart]

stratus sphere SS tier tbh

[grave geyser]

classless weapon in ss what a world

[fathom girder]

stratus set, debuff alcohols and aestheticus

my main build

[lyric trellis]

Get it because if you

[fathom girder]

done and dusted

[dull heart]

not from dealing damage but the fact it can give you 100 barrier

[lyric trellis]

Oh

[grave geyser]

hmmm

might be good

[dull heart]

(it's starburst effect allows starbursts to act as barrier)

[heavy sphinx]

The white wine description sound too good

[lyric trellis]

Combining Stratus Sphere with Claret Cannon for the ultimate meta

[fathom girder]

Does it synergize with aegis or is it kinda like its own thing similar to amber brooch

[dull heart]

what does either of those have to do with stratus sphere what

[fathom girder]

barrier

[deft lily]

i'mbored so uh
brainstorm tomorrow

[grave geyser]

stacking all the barrier effects to get like 800 barrier

[dull heart]

aegis doesn't give barrier

[fathom girder]

yes it does

it converts overheal into barrier

[grave geyser]

???

[fathom girder]

haven't you played ror2 before

[grave geyser]

oh

[dull heart]

p sure eternal exchange can get over 800 barrier alone

[heavy sphinx]

Rework the slime good 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

[deft lily]

not everyone has played ror2.

[dull heart]

a) no
b) i thought you meant asgardian aegis

[deft lily]

i myself have not

[fathom girder]

oh

[lyric trellis]

PSC + Status + Lunic + Sponge + Rover = 800 somehow

[fathom girder]

lmao

[grave geyser]

I kinda forgot moonshine existed
ok 1100

[lyric trellis]

Is Eternal Exchange even real yet

[lapis oak]

programmer art

[dull heart]

is coded but asset / visual design hell

[grave geyser]

ah

[lyric trellis]

Potential item

[grave geyser]

rip bozo

[blazing field]

asset hell

[lapis oak]

circles it's just a bunch of circles

[dull heart]

with this, EE would get you about 1000 barrier

since you'd have to drop flesh knuckles to use it

1000 barrier is wild

[lyric trellis]

We’re all using this build on boss rush

[dull heart]

add in moonshine for another 25% and

or is moonshine 50%

lemme look

33%

[heavy sphinx]

Buff the grape beer 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[dull heart]

1200 barrier from just EE

peak

[lapis oak]

33% health increase?

[dull heart]

yeah

[lapis oak]

sounds great

[lyric trellis]

Old Blood Pact is back 🙂‍↕️

[lapis oak]

can u give detailed numbers on alcohols or are they redacted by the government

[dull heart]

33% max HP, but you take 50% of your defense as defense dmg every hit (stacks with BFC for 100%) and defense damage takes twice as long to recover (2 seconds instead of 1 oh no)

[blazing field]

is my #funky and #swag idea of eternal exchange's modes actually being themed arond ingame gods you fight still being considered because 2 of them already fit really well with provi/ravager as is

[dull heart]

idk

maybe if Endow makes sense for one

i'll ask loreheads

[lapis oak]

cheese will make every assets for Eternal Exchange

[dull heart]

i really need just a visual design idea to go with for it

[dusk bronze]

hello lorehead here

[deft lily]

oh xzier is blue too

whys everyone blue

[dusk bronze]

ig

[dull heart]

not you i meant the loreheadheads

[hasty tangle]

encounter with papyrus

[dusk bronze]

true

[deft lily]

...who?

the fuck is a papyrus

[blazing field]

im not even an artist ...

well

i kinda am

but not like

[dusk bronze]

a type of paper originating from ancient egypt

[blazing field]

an active one

i just draw sometimes and im not particularly great ait though ive been practicing

[lapis oak]

when's the grind

[wise bolt]

cheese. take my place

[dusty tinsel]

Brainstorm update??

[deft lily]

ragebait or true

call it

[blazing field]

boaring myse

[lapis oak]

Papyrus the hit paper material from the hit game Don't Starve

[deft lily]

anyways

@wise bolt hi

[polar tide]

bites

[deft lily]

hi carnymassacre user

[blazing field]

im gonna be the newest calamity mod concept artist. to show my talent heres my cnidrion concept art

[deft lily]

incredible

[blazing field]

he has a mane like a regular horrse except instead of hair its like jellyfish tentacles because that means his name makes slightly more sense

[polar tide]

:)

[blazing field]

im a genius truly

[polar tide]

[alex noise]

[blazing field]

ALEX

accept my

my

[wise bolt]

my frand

[wise bolt]

alex needs cool dude role

[blazing field]

true ..

[wise bolt]

in my humble opinoin

in my onion

#myonion

[blazing field]

in your ogre

because ogres are like onions

[deft lily]

everyone is becoming blue

i quiver in fear

[wise bolt]

yo mama an ogre

[polar tide]

alex need a fucking break from it all

[deft lily]

😨

[stiff light]

ogre have layers

[dull heart]

i might try to shader EE

[blazing field]

my mother has passed away 2 years ago tofu

or

3 now

yeah

3

my mother is dead tofu

[wise bolt]

yo mama an ogre in the afterlife

[blazing field]

thats so fucking mean dude

[deft lily]

damn

[stiff light]

we all ogre

[wise bolt]

we all ogre

[deft lily]

-# not meeeee

[wise bolt]

jokes aside i hope yo mama doing well in the afterlife

https://tenor.com/view/larrydasnail-ashsnails-snail-meme-pet-gif-23567477

[hasty hawk]

THE WALL

[grave geyser]

you cant outstall it

[lapis oak]

have u reached out to Baguette donor yet? I'd like to see what's being changed for its synergy with the new Red Wine

[polar tide]

WHEN YOU COME TO IT AND YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH IT AND YOU CAN'T KNOCK IT DOWN

[dull heart]

baguette does the healing now instead of wine

when used together

[deft lily]

[lapis oak]

ok that's nice

[grave geyser]

funky

[dull heart]

donor item moment

[lapis oak]

Baguette is much easier to mass produced so it makes sense

[wise bolt]

fancy

[fathom girder]

what if the higher defense you had, the more knockback you took depending on the damage absorbed

so enemies can play pinball with you

[dull heart]

well also bc I'm not making red wine heal that'd be silly, so baguette being the item that has the interaction makes sense

[lapis oak]

does quick heal work on Baguette?

[dull heart]

I haven't coded it yet

But it will

[lapis oak]

oh ok

[fathom girder]

damn

brainstorm delayed for 2 years

[grave geyser]

new red wine buff dropping

[deft lily]

hate to see it

smh smh

[polar tide]

i'd like to see an alcohol that increases dash length

[grave geyser]

thats called old dukes scales

[wise bolt]

alcohol that sends u flying into the ocean

[lapis oak]

isn't that just ODS

[fathom girder]

alcohol that reverts the bash nerf...

[lapis oak]

my beloved

[grave geyser]

alcohol thats just burden breaker

[autumn compass]

Will the effects of current Red Wine be the same with Baguette in BS?

Like healing 200 HP but decreasing life regen

[deft lily]

alcohol that breaks the speed of sound

[polar tide]

you fucking clowns its because i was thinking about when you just get into hardmode and your only ram dash option is deep diver

[fathom girder]

lmao

[dull heart]

Baguette will function like a healing potion when under red wine. Exact stats tbd

[fathom girder]

I think that's the point of deep diver though

can't have a huge ass dash at the start of hardmode, can we

gotta have progression

[polar tide]

yeah no shit

[fathom girder]

wow

[polar tide]

alcohols have a downside for a reason

[fathom girder]

all rainbows and sunshine with you today huh

[dull heart]

Huge dashes are worse anyway

tbh

[fathom girder]

For micromovements in bullet hells, I agree

[dull heart]

cinnamon roll low-key just entirely a buff but shh

[fathom girder]

but I like my bashes long

[polar tide]

was thinking about it because ive been playing through the brainstorm beta and mech trio was particularly miserable and i kept thinking during destroyer man if only i at least had a longer dash for this

*on death mode

[dull heart]

should have made cinnamon roll smh

[polar tide]

you're a cinnamon roll

[dull heart]

I think it actually makes diver longer due to how diver works

[polar tide]

the fuck

[fathom girder]

dmode seems like the environment where you should buff yourself up as much as possible

[grave geyser]

LOL?

[dull heart]

I haven't tested that though

but the increased speed might make diver just longer

[fathom girder]

That's amusing

[polar tide]

lol????

[dull heart]

since diver already has a hard slowdown timer so cinnamon roll adding one changes very little

[lapis oak]

how many debuffs are being added to BS?

[fathom girder]

I can't wait to do a debuff build

[dull heart]

at least 2

[fathom girder]

even though it'll still be mostly guns and weapons that have debuffs on the side

[dull heart]

I also have buffed debuff builds by making there be items that have long infliction

[fathom girder]

HELL YEAH

[dull heart]

30 seconds of plague from plague staff anyo6?

[lapis oak]

THAT WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT

[fathom girder]

YESSSSSSSSS

doze you're my favorite you know my STYLE

[lapis oak]

LONGER INFLICTION TIME

[dull heart]

30 seconds of astral infection from astralachne?

[lapis oak]

LESS JUGGLIGN BETWEEEN ITEMS