calamity-update-talk

[grave geyser]

crates giving hm ores is already fixed
the wof solution is to just kill ml and shimmer down

[west isle]

Wait

Does astral silt

Spawn naturally

[grave geyser]

yes

well I mean nothing about astral is natural

[hasty hawk]

Lmao?

[grave geyser]

but yes

[pulsar cobalt]

o right shimmer

stupid dumb fucking mechanic (best thing to be ever made)

[west isle]

Then can't u just use that at an extractinator to get mythril (unless I forgot something)

[grave geyser]

yes thats the method

[pulsar cobalt]

need 1 mech boss dead (which is how dest over wof works)

[grave geyser]

granted I think next update both get skipped

[hasty hawk]

pretty sure hm ores are locked behind Cloro Extractinator

[grave geyser]

since clone doesnt take an ori anvil anymore

[hasty hawk]

if they are not for astral silt/slush then lmao

[grave geyser]

they are not
because that change was way before chloro extract existed

[pulsar cobalt]

yea that

[west isle]

I compleatly forgot the chlorophite extractinator was a thing

[grave geyser]

and also nobody remembers chloro extract exists anyway

[pulsar cobalt]

they were already locked to mech bosses so ig no one thought it was a problem anyway

[west isle]

Make an auric extractinator next or sum fr

[hasty hawk]

also you could just kill Ravager for every hm ore except astral

since shimmer

[dense sundial]

I think more people should remember chloro extractinator exists

[grave geyser]

rav takes mythril anvil

[pulsar cobalt]

ravager requires t2 anvil too

[dense sundial]

But doesn’t shimmer exist

[grave geyser]

is the biggest problem

[gray trench]

Why? All the ores are farmable wia yharon i think

[west isle]

Because why not

[mystic eagle]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Skipping_Wall_of_Flesh
Just read this guide

[hasty hawk]

ah then Rox is needed cuz you aint killing ML with early hm gear

[grave geyser]

iirc low% route next update is clone -> cultist -> ml -> rav -> dog -> yhar -> exos -> scal

[gray trench]

No, just gfb

[kindred night]

are the alcohol updates true

[grave geyser]

nobody counts gfb for low%

[hasty hawk]

outside GFB i mean

[gray trench]

Yes

[mystic eagle]

Me and Rover made it a while back and updated it recently

[gray trench]

[grave geyser]

you dont count sorryu

[kindred night]

grape beer is the worst thing to ever happen to ranger

[hasty hawk]

yes but eventually™

[west isle]

Exos?

[gray trench]

No, i don't think so

[grave geyser]

exo mechs

[west isle]

R they making exos necessary for scale now?

[grave geyser]

no

[pulsar cobalt]

low% requires beating both final bosses

[grave geyser]

exos are required for low% because they are the final boss

[mystic eagle]

Exos are a final boss

[kindred night]

ranger with homing 👎👎👎

[west isle]

Oh thank everything

[gray trench]

With just scal as req

How many bosses

[mystic eagle]

SCal% is seperate from low%

[pulsar cobalt]

dw theyll make grape beer utter dogshit just like chloro bullets

[grave geyser]

scal and exos are the 2 bosses that will never become optional

[pulsar cobalt]

😊

[grave geyser]

for low%

[grave geyser]

-50% crit damage
cant wait

[gray trench]

Yeah, i'm just curious if i wanted to do a theoretical scal%

[mystic eagle]

Cultist, maybe

[west isle]

Scal% is diffrent from low%?

[pulsar cobalt]

yes

[lyric trellis]

-2% crit

[west isle]

What's the diffeence

[mystic eagle]

The only way to make Cultist irrelevant is by making Ancient Manipulator have another source

[misty wren]

low% wants both final bosses scal% only wants scal

[grave geyser]

cultist skip would require preboss deus I think

[west isle]

Ohh

Where's exo% then smh

[grave geyser]

oh wait yeah still need manip

[pulsar cobalt]

rav

i think it was?

actually wait no

[kindred night]

🥰

[pulsar cobalt]

core of calamity is in altar i think

[stone fiber]

Yeah

[grave geyser]

yharon might also never become skipable but thats more likely to become possible

[misty wren]

still possible

[grave geyser]

all it needs is for scal/exos to not need auric

[mystic eagle]

Tbf Exos% and SCal% are pretty dumb as they're just low% but you do one of the 2 first

[west isle]

Why does the altar of the acursed need auric ore

Or bars

[grave geyser]

only real difference for exos% is that wof is manditory and clone is skipped

[pulsar cobalt]

to lock it to post yharon

[grave geyser]

reminder that we are a single item away from dog being optional (cosmilite ore)

[mystic eagle]

ML and DoG will probably remain unskippable for a while too

[pulsar cobalt]

need endothermic too

[west isle]

Buff scal clone post yharon or sum like they did for ravager post prov

[grave geyser]

oh right

damn

[pulsar cobalt]

(both of these issues will be solved whenever triangle makes his dev item)

[west isle]

Also why is the solar eclipse the only event that requires hard mode to start

[pulsar cobalt]

relogic

[mystic eagle]

Will be changed in 2.1

[grave geyser]

what even makes ml required rn
necroplasm?

[west isle]

Yeah ik it's a vanilla thing but still

[pulsar cobalt]

yes i believe

[west isle]

It's stupid

[mystic eagle]

Luminite
Necroplasm

[gray trench]

[grave geyser]

luminite is obtainable through other methods but necro isnt

[misty wren]

because vanilla likes putting that into the game

[pulsar cobalt]

o right luminite too i think thats in dog summon as well

[mystic eagle]

Oh right soul shimmering

[thorny fjord]

Celestial sigil locks

[pulsar cobalt]

think this can be obtained via auric shimmering now tho

[mystic eagle]

[misty wren]

cultists used to only spawn in hardmode even if you killed golem

[dense sundial]

Oh and Mothron only drops Broken Hero Sword if all mechs are dead, despite the fact seeing a Mothron without killing all mechs is impossible in vanilla

[west isle]

Yeah that's also very stupid

[grave geyser]

yes mal we KNOW gfb exists

[thorny fjord]

Vanilla locks it in 3 separate ways to be post golem

Like in the code I mean

[west isle]

"erm actually, u can have a natural solar eclipse the moment hard mode starts"

[mystic eagle]

Surprisingly ML took me only 2 attempts in both WoFless low% runs

[misty wren]

cultist hardmode and golem locks i presume

[thorny fjord]

Why is it that hard coded

[misty wren]

ik cultist and hardmode im just not sure about golem

[thorny fjord]

No, it's like, preuse, on use, and after use

Or some shit

[misty wren]

oh

lmao

[grave geyser]

incredible

[thorny fjord]

Like it's tied to golem in code in 3 places

[grave geyser]

its actually not cultist tied I think

[stone fiber]

Isn't it getting killed as well?

[pulsar cobalt]

far future

[misty wren]

when the distortion happens yeah

[grave geyser]

if it is then pacifist is completely fucked but eh

[thorny fjord]

I don't think it is

Bit could be wrong

[west isle]

Sigil being locked behind golem in vanilla is literally useless cuz u can't even get it without killing him

[grave geyser]

correct

[west isle]

And even after killing him u would need fo kill lunatic

For the solar event

Like ??

[misty wren]

ok yeah no cultist tie

[west isle]

Unless that specific code is the terraria equivalent of that coconut image in the TF2 code that if deleted crashes everything

[misty wren]

yes vanilla has a lot of locks that dont serve any purpose

[stone fiber]

I mean
It's gonna be the same update as cosmilite
Why mention it separately then

[grave geyser]

is this still true in cal

thats pretty funny if so

[west isle]

Mothrons only drop broken hero swords post plantera iirc

[grave geyser]

mothrons only spawn post plantera

I feel like I lean yes because I remember someone killing like 80 mothrons without getting a sword to drop

[misty wren]

cultists sigil only spawns post golem in hardmode with skeletron dead, it doesnt need a hardmode lock because golem has a plant lock and plant has a mechs lock and mechs are only fightable in hardmode unless you worldhop

[grave geyser]

oh right the eclipse lock
is that dead or is it still around

in 2.1 I mean I know its still around rn

[west isle]

Eclipse I still locked behind hm

[misty wren]

iirc plant also has a hardmode lock which again doesnt matter because mechs need hardmode unless you worldhop

[west isle]

In vanilla the plantera bulb only spawns post all 3 mechs

[grave geyser]

#suggestions-voting message ok its implimented by at least 2.2 and I dont see why it wouldnt be 2.1

[rancid pagoda]

solar eclipse requires one mech kill

[grave geyser]

to spawn naturally yes

but it also requires hardmode

[rancid pagoda]

that would make sense

[grave geyser]

ok so its now "either hardmode or a mech boss dead"
no preboss moon stone

[rancid pagoda]

cannot use solar tablet either

[grave geyser]

yes
thats whats changing

[rancid pagoda]

is it changing

you cannot get the other items early but you can get solar tablets early

[grave geyser]

solar tablet will be usable if you either kill wof or a mech boss or plant

[runic nova]

is there a way to download previous version (mainly before 2.0.7)

[hasty tangle]

any particular reason why

[barren nacelle]

Daokes gif

[runic nova]

theres a challenge i want to do. a 1 block. the version 2.0.7 fixed the cooldown on mining gear and changed fishing loot that challenge is now either near imposible or very very time consuming

[grave geyser]

calamity github has most versions post 1.4 port

[west isle]

Why does miner armor have a cooldown on the ability anyways

[runic nova]

thats what i was thinking

[west isle]

The set gives u Mining speed, which encourages mining faster, but the ability has a cooldown, which incentivizes u to be slower?

[grave geyser]

actually that reminds me

[runic nova]

it also has the chance of giving extra ore when mining, nvm i understand the CD but still

so getting version 2.0.6 is not likely to happen i assume

[vocal kelp]

unless you really need the duped ores you're not, you're not going to like, care

[grave geyser]

again, calamity github has most older versions after 2021ish

[grave geyser]

one block practically relies on them

[rancid pagoda]

it was always supposed to just be a bonus for normal mining, not something you abuse

[grave geyser]

your alternative is farming slimes for 30 hours

[vocal kelp]

yeah yeah but we mean like, you're not incentivized to go slower

outside of one block the duping isn't like relevant enough to do that

[rancid pagoda]

duping is actually easier if you have the drill mount

[runic nova]

for this challenge is really much needed. unless you want spend 30 years killing slimes and waiting

1.4 version im gonna miss a lot of content.

[rancid pagoda]

extreme limiting challenge is extremely time consuming, who knew

[vocal kelp]

it's uncanny how calamity one blockers didnt exist 3 months ago and now they run the world

[runic nova]

power of content creators babyy

[rancid pagoda]

we don't need one niche type of a challenge influencing the direction of the whole mod thanks

[runic nova]

probably wont do a thing

[grave geyser]

?
you can just downgrade to like
2.0.4.5
it has every version

or at least most of them

[runic nova]

it has?! damn i really need to learn github

[pseudo vector]

i mean you should at least experience the new content coming in 2.1 before doing any challenge runs on previous versions

you'd be missing a lot

[grave geyser]

I mean 2.1 is probably like a month off

they can probably finish a run in that time

[runic nova]

ive played calamity before, and had fun. now i just need a challenge or something

[mighty geyser]

power of people getting pissy about a random niche challenge run getting nerfed

[runic nova]

life of a challenge runners

[vocal kelp]

vanilla one block is more interesting anyways

[grave geyser]

isnt vanilla one block straight up impossible

[vocal kelp]

we don't remember wwe're just saying bullshit

[blazing field]

power of people basing their entire mindset on what john youtube said rather than forming their own thoughts on things

[vocal kelp]

like the upcoming calamity upd

[pseudo vector]

yyyyyyyea

[pulsar cobalt]

oh youre finally up

idiot

lost your main account

[vocal kelp]

1.4.5 will probably have innate one block as a seed combo

[blazing field]

cant a girl be sleepy

[grave geyser]

???
"oh this challenge run looks fun but downgrading will make it more convenient"
how is any of that basing their entire mindset on something john youtube said

[mighty geyser]

we're talking about why people are suddenly all running calamity one block

[rancid pagoda]

and complaining how one block is ruined

but it died down now

[blazing field]

the power of the strawman

[vocal kelp]

what if instead of calamity one block it was no block and you just fell forever eternally dying again and again

[terse dew]

True

[rancid pagoda]

noblock is actually impossible without literal cheating

[blazing field]

[vocal kelp]

actually you can do this technique called closing the game

[blazing field]

what if instead it was allblock and you suffocate because there is literally no air at all every single individual tile is a block

[rancid pagoda]

and no, exploits are not not cheating

[wide nova]

mi(ss)ing a l(o)t

[vocal kelp]

miingalt

[terse dew]

why does that matter though

cheating in video games is awesome

💪

[pulsar cobalt]

miing a lt

[wide wadi]

Tyeski

[valid crypt]

Thags what i read first lol

[wide wadi]

Bahahaha

[vocal kelp]

youd be able to mine a little hole right away so its like trivial im afraid

[mighty geyser]

sbeve

[grave geyser]

make it all hellstone ez

[vocal kelp]

what if instead it was ocean block and your game lagged to hell and back as the world takes 7 hours to settle liquids

[grave geyser]

true...

[vocal kelp]

abyssaria in REAL

you guys have to play abyssaria its a very good mod

[desert garnet]

calamity overhaul block, it instantly corrupts all your files

but it have cool murasama

[rancid pagoda]

takes forever to settle liquids but the end result is totally empty world

[mystic eagle]

Including if it's in your inventory

[vocal kelp]

no it holds

[rancid pagoda]

unless you make a border for underworld

[vocal kelp]

eating Calamity From a single World episode 98: god has taken everyone and i alone walk this earth towardsm y doo

[high scaffold]

I think I might have solved the starcannon problem

Instead of using whole stars make it use starshots which are made in packs of 10 from 1 star

Ofc that would also mean a damage nerf

[amber egret]

no it wouldnt

[rare tinsel]

I think the star cannon is fine. Using prohibitively expensive ammunition for a stronger weapon is reasonable. If someone wants to waste all that time and effort doing slave labor so they don’t have to learn how to beat the bad guy, they can totally do that

The real issue is the qolrot that makes that sort of ammunition not so prohibitively expensive anymore which kinda ruins the weapon

[high scaffold]

Starcannon suffers from trying to be a regular RPG strong but limited uses weapon

[amber egret]

the now rightfully removed magnum;

[high scaffold]

Which, terraria doesnt quite work that way

[vocal kelp]

okay but like who cares

Like this isn't really an issue it is still very much more expensive

[high scaffold]

You either have something that costs a reasonable amount and is permanent or something that is made in bulk cheaply like arrows

Starcannon tries to be both

And fails

[vocal kelp]

It doesn't try to be both

It doesn't try to be either of these

[high scaffold]

Yes but no but also

[dull heart]

Percentage change makes it the same overall for crit vs mult

[grave geyser]

ig

[vocal kelp]

Like it's just, stronger weapon for perhaps the only existing vanilla item that is actually like, both farmeable and time consuming enough to farm to justify the weapon's design

[dull heart]

10% tag crit and 1.1x tag mult are almost identical except crit looks cooler, synergies with on crit accesories, and is hurt more by defense

[high scaffold]

I find it interesting how pre hm and further more early game terraria is built like a regular rpg

[wide wadi]

Yo doze is the armor resprite going to be in the next update

[dull heart]

what armor resprite

There's a lot of armors

[wide wadi]

The cool exo mech ones

[gloomy grove]

septillion armors

[wide wadi]

[gloomy grove]

arsenal??

[high scaffold]

As far as I know, none

[dull heart]

There's no exo mech armor resprites considering there's no exo mech armor even in the game yet

So it wouldn't be a resprite

[high scaffold]

Only arsenal t1 is getting added

[wide wadi]

[dull heart]

Also no not even arsenal t1 is in 2.1

it's not finished still

[wide wadi]

Bruh dang so I got jabaited

[dull heart]

(for armor)

[pseudo vector]

there's a fair few arsenal weapons getting reworked in this update

[lean relic]

gg guys arsenal in SSO confirmed

[dull heart]

Arsenal weapons are though yeah

[gloomy grove]

is it just up to t1 for weapons?

[wide wadi]

I saw somewhere there was some exo armor

[vocal kelp]

Im crine

[dull heart]

Exo armor will be real eventually

[pseudo vector]

exo armour won't be coming until later

[high scaffold]

Arsenal armor t1 is still SSO?

[gloomy grove]

id assume all of them are gonna drop on the same update

[pseudo vector]

probably when we get to overhauling the exo mechs we'll add exo armour and stuff

[dull heart]

It's primarily waiting on UI assets

[amber egret]

is it spriter hell

[blazing field]

asset hell

#relatable

[amber egret]

i cant post the gif i dont think but is it spriter hell

[high scaffold]

And gameplay wise?

[halcyon seal]

Applied Calamistics flashed through my head and I don’t know why

[amber egret]

?

what is that

[dull heart]

Gameplay wise I think it was implemented but I also think they wanted to revise it

[gloomy grove]

why would it be spriting hell

[amber egret]

assets

sprites likely

[dull heart]

Yes

[halcyon seal]

Hypothetical AE2 addon but for calamity even though they’re in entirely different games

[high scaffold]

The curse of taking too long, starting to rework reworks

[amber egret]

what is ae2

[lean relic]

oh no

[amber egret]

oh applied energistics

no i know it its me storage

[dull heart]

You'll never believe this idea I have been planning for a while..

[lean relic]

Minecraft mod yeah

[amber egret]

yea

[arctic patrol]

oh no what is doze cooking for us

[halcyon seal]

You better be implementing fluid crafting

[high scaffold]

You will too never believe an idea Ive been planning

[halcyon seal]

You guys will BELIEVE this idea I’ve been having

[vocal kelp]

That's right calamity mod draedon brand magic storage

[arctic patrol]

chicken

[grave geyser]

takes power cells to function
Shuts off if you run out

[lean relic]

Believe it guys, fluids (not bucket) in magic storage

[dull heart]

the idea is actually to make an upgrade of The Swarmer called The Draconic Swarmer that has the sprite of literally just folly holding a minigun

[grave geyser]

how is this related

its peak

[dull heart]

It's not

[high scaffold]

Ive been planning to make a terraria version of AE2 after 1.4.5 tmod releases

[grave geyser]

I see

[arctic patrol]

ae2?

[grave geyser]

minecraft mod

[vocal kelp]

Can you guys make swarmer good on moonlord

[dull heart]

Actually though my storage system plans were distinctly not draedon and more magical in nature

[arctic patrol]

wtf is that mod

[dull heart]

I'll go make it good right now

[halcyon seal]

Yk magic storage? It’s that but cooler and for minecraft

[dull heart]

I'll give it back the bee gun gimmick

[grave geyser]

gives it double damage with hive pack:

[dull heart]

The one where bees all share iframes

[high scaffold]

Booo, magic storage copy boooo

[amber egret]

store your stuff in Plants

[halcyon seal]

Didn’t Swarmer used to be INSANE in older versions

[amber egret]

and then open the Plants to get your Things

[arctic patrol]

you know what, fuck you
unmagics your magic storage

[amber egret]

and then you grow your Storage Tree

[vocal kelp]

You guys stole plague hive swarmer from us years ago and we demand it back

[amber egret]

to make it hold more Plants for more Items in Plants

[high scaffold]

Grow a storage

[arctic patrol]

no

please

no

not this

[vocal kelp]

#ThePeopleWantMoonlordKillerSwarmer

[grave geyser]

swarmer the goat of only being remembered because it used to kill ml in like 90 seconds

[amber furnace]

add gacha to calamity

[grave geyser]

treasure bags

[halcyon seal]

I do wonder when we’re getting a Terraria tech mod

[vocal kelp]

Never

[grave geyser]

its hard to do well in a game like terraria

[amber egret]

not wrong there

except you probably cant sell your Storage Tree

[high scaffold]

Macrocosm will be having an industrialization update I believe this year

[amber egret]

and its probably actually sprited good

[halcyon seal]

Oh that’s sick

The rocket mod right

[high scaffold]

Ye

Theyll add oil

[amber egret]

they'll add

what

[grave geyser]

most tech mods work in minecraft because progression is so practically nonexistent that the mod having its own self contained progression works well
in terraria you kinda have to tie it to direct progression unless you want it to be a sidequest people touch like twice in prehardmode and then never again

[lean relic]

There isnt yet, but here is the close one

[amber egret]

in what world would you need this

[grave geyser]

in what world would you not need this

[halcyon seal]

Is that a fucking magic storage subnet for blood moon farming

That’s fucking awesome

[dull heart]

I began a tech mod

Then stopped

bc it was hard to make it interesting

making it relevant throughout the game was rough

but I think I could do it now

[halcyon seal]

I think the most logical way of making a tech mod relevant is just having the stuff you get from it make new combat gear

But then there’s the problem of what do you fight with it

Since vanilla gear already works fine

[dull heart]

yeah

exactly

[high scaffold]

I want to see the new chromatic eruption and legions of celestia

[halcyon seal]

Ig you could just nerf the shit out of vanilla stuff?

Or change their recipes to require stuff from your mod

But that’d just be a headache

[lean relic]

Oh yeah, we have this btw

[halcyon seal]

Oh that seems neat

[amber egret]

i think for a tech mod

you dont really wanna make content

you wanna make novelty or convinient

[dull heart]

tech mod is hard with current Tmod qolrot

[high scaffold]

IS THAT FUCKING TINKERS CONSTRUCT?!?!

In my terraria

[amber egret]

like a system that allows you to swap between entire loadouts or a machine that organizes your items

you want it to look cool basically

[halcyon seal]

So basically we need a Create for a gateway drug

[rancid pagoda]

no, it's more like terrafirmacraft

[lean relic]

Well about that....

[amber egret]

magic storage may be simple but this one can organize my stuff by color

[high scaffold]

Do you need to collect sticks and rocks from the ground and travel for hours to find special clay?

[amber egret]

the f2 button may be cool but i have a ton of loadouts and some need specific accesories changed

[thorny fjord]

Built in loadouts are great, especially with the enhanced loadouts mod so you get 6 slots and can share items between them

[amber egret]

yuh

[thorny fjord]

I don't think you need more than that tbh

[halcyon seal]

Maybe there’s like

• Chlorophyte Growth Accelerator
• enemy spawning stuff
• storage ofc
• auto shimmer for coin luck? Maybe?
• quarry but how do you make it better than a mining potion with some digging claws

[amber egret]

little doohickies that do menial labor to make your life easier

[halcyon seal]

Actually

Schematicannon?

[lean relic]

From mechtransfer mod

[amber egret]

nanomachines which very mildly boost the stats of items

[thorny fjord]

Auto fisher

[halcyon seal]

Auto fisher is a good one

[halcyon seal]

Oh that’s interesting

I gotta try out more mods

[thorny fjord]

And if you had like, a crate opener you could use that to feed bait back into itself

[dull heart]

This mod is the goat

[high scaffold]

Are those the item pipes from typical old minecraft automation mod?

[amber egret]

more turrets would also be cool

harpoon the enemies outta the sky

[dull heart]

MechTransfer lets you use any ammo in turrets...

[halcyon seal]

Item turret?

[grave geyser]

we have like 6 is your greed not yet satied?

[lean relic]

Now its time to send this image

[hasty hawk]

TINKERS CONSTRUCT

[dull heart]

https://youtu.be/98_1HqkYCUI

[amber egret]

i HATE spriters. i want sixty.

[halcyon seal]

wtf is chunk loader

[halcyon seal]

OH SHIT POTIONS

[lean relic]

Force loads area for spawning enemies

[halcyon seal]

Ohhhh

We’ve been having tech mods ig

[lean relic]

We have auto fisher in qol mod
And hmmmm.... theres spawner in minecraft items mod which I don't remember the name

[hasty hawk]

Stars Above “The Only Thing I know for Real” and “Bury The Light” in one sword

[high scaffold]

Do yall know that bobbit worms from calamity were so good they added them to real life

[hasty hawk]

secret Subnautica seed for Calamity mod where the whole world is Abyss

[lean relic]

Actually speaking of automation I should make workshop collections for it
..will do it after I sleep

[high scaffold]

Actualy, might be cooking with this one

[thorny fjord]

Share with me if/when you do, might want to check it out

[high scaffold]

I was having an idea for some time, a magma liquid that will not form blocks when coming in contact with other liquids

Terraria liquids can actualy work that way

Just would need adjusted rendering

[blazing field]

i love htose guys

[high scaffold]

Imagine magma pools in bottom layers of the abyss making the exploration more tricky

Got another idea

Using that magma to make scoria

[spark kiln]

when are the different turret types gonna spawn naturally

[high scaffold]

Maybe in Brainstorm since they are remaking the labs

[amber furnace]

they should make vampires drop bat hook in vanilla

[high scaffold]

Bat hook...

Who uses it?

[thorny fjord]

Been done for next update for a good bit

[amber furnace]

well I would use it if it was locked behind halloween

[high scaffold]

I dont even remember how you get one

[high scaffold]

Goog

[amber furnace]

Halloween bags

[high scaffold]

Thats why so rare

Its a pre hm hook

Also I open those realy rarely

Id realy like an alternative boots line

But I think its partially implemented in one of the lines already

[fierce hearth]

We got fairy boots for HM alt boots in Calamity yeah

[high scaffold]

Thats it

Also arent fairy boots extremely busted?

[grave geyser]

theres also hellfire treads

[high scaffold]

Nobody uses em

[hasty hawk]

those dont count

[grave geyser]

ehhh?
meta has shifted to a point where I wouldnt quite say that

[hasty hawk]

they are fire debuff mult

[grave geyser]

they're good though

[rancid pagoda]

not so extreme, the fairies don't stack

[grave geyser]

if fairy counts hellfire counts

[hasty hawk]

Fairy counts since it uses spectre boots

[grave geyser]

so does hellfire

[hasty hawk]

Hellfire treads dont

[pulsar cobalt]

hellfire does

[hasty hawk]

wait they now do what

[pulsar cobalt]

its flamewalker plus spectre

[grave geyser]

they always did

its flame waker that doesnt

[high scaffold]

Fairy boots provide +2HP/s, +10 defence and +10% movespeed

[hasty hawk]

wasnt it flamewalker + lava waders?

Cal changed it didnt it?

[grave geyser]

1.5x fire damage and hellfire infliction isnt bad even on its own merits
esp for fights like qs and cryo

[rancid pagoda]

yes

[grave geyser]

nopee

[high scaffold]

Dont yall think that 10 def for a movement accessory is too much?

[grave geyser]

its like that in vanilla

[hasty hawk]

Cryo fucking dies with Hellfire + Cursed flames + Shadowflame

[halcyon seal]

Hellfire Treads are mid in cal but JUICY in fargos for that sweet sweet ori hellfire boosted Shadowflame Knife

[hasty hawk]

and slimed

[high scaffold]

Also calamity nerfs amphibian boots

[hasty hawk]

not as much as it did back when weakness was x5 instead of x2 but still dies to it

[grave geyser]

when the movement accessory is actively competing with a better movement accessory not really?
like yeah its very strong but terraspark speed is also very noticable

you can also just run both but shhhhhhh

[halcyon seal]

Running both is too cursed

[hasty hawk]

Frog Leg is busted to compensate half the jump speed from it was moved to wings

[halcyon seal]

Who up using the quadruple boots build

[hasty hawk]

a spider

[pulsar cobalt]

how much is the difference between fairy and lightning even

[grave geyser]

iirc freg is currently completely unnerfed in cal

[halcyon seal]

Last I checked it was 8 mph?

[amber furnace]

what if we had a boot accessory line that works exactly the opposite of the treads one
no running, just defense and damage reduction with some cool gimmick

[high scaffold]

Soaring insignia nerf is fair

[grave geyser]

its like 25% ish

[grave geyser]

soaring was super overnerfed

[hasty hawk]

if that got unnerfed and amphibian still are then lmao

[rancid pagoda]

if you're still confused

[amber furnace]

what was the nerd

nerf

[halcyon seal]

Honestly I think you could re implement the inf flight for ascendant and it wouldn’t even be that good

[high scaffold]

Maybe just a bit

[grave geyser]

I mean soaring is flat out worse than angel treads at being a flight booster so yeah I'd certainly say so

[dull heart]

soaring midsignia

[high scaffold]

From 48 jump boost 100 run acceleration and infinite flight to 10 jump boost and run acceleration and 25 flight time

[halcyon seal]

Make it an aero stone upgrade if real

[amber furnace]

💔

[dull heart]

aero stone my goat

[blazing field]

my beloved

this is the weirdest vanilla item ever

like genuinely why does it exist

[dull heart]

25% flight time*

[high scaffold]

Aero stone upgrades when?

[dull heart]

25 flight time would be really bad

[grave geyser]

no amph was unnerfed along with the rest of them only to instantly get nerfed again when it started genuenely competing with lightning boots (still undeserved though free my goat)

[amber furnace]

to look cool

[halcyon seal]

I thought it was glaze until I did masdeath twins

[amber furnace]

thats all

[halcyon seal]

Saved my ass

[amber furnace]

it wasn't made to give tactical advantage

[blazing field]

the humble flame walker boots you literally use on its crafting recipe:

[dull heart]

it was nerfed before it was actually needed

and is unnerfed in 2.1

iird

[grave geyser]

yipeee

[high scaffold]

Also yoyo glove nerf like if anyone actualy uses yoyos

[halcyon seal]

I think it’s cool that there’s so much diversity in boots

[dull heart]

yoyog love nerf was neeeded

[blazing field]

flame walker boots are already the Vanity Boots that make you spread a trail of fire when you walk

[halcyon seal]

Just wish hellfire treads were a bit more on par

[blazing field]

You use them to craft this thing

[amber furnace]

what 💔

[dull heart]

yoyo glove is still way too strong

[blazing field]

which is

which is the same thing except you also need to a waste a spectre boots for it

ok

why

[grave geyser]

yoyo glove nerf is a buff if anything since the counterbalance was that yoyos were given local iirc

[blazing field]

Seriously it's such a weird item

It has no reason to exist like at all

[high scaffold]

But yoyos themself are so ass

[dull heart]

if you want base rocket boot effects + flame walking trail

[blazing field]

The humble vanity slot

[dull heart]

that's literally where i'd put this item

[grave geyser]

not yoyo gloves problem!

[dull heart]

it's a vanity slot item

[blazing field]

flame walker boots

🥹

[halcyon seal]

We making a whole item to save One vanity slot

[blazing field]

literally

its that

[high scaffold]

Magic yoyo string being added in 1.4.5

[blazing field]

thats this itwem

😭

[grave geyser]

walking wake

[halcyon seal]

Say that again.

[blazing field]

you waste a set of specter boots you could otherwise be upgrading into something useful to

to maybe save 1 vanity slot but also make it so you cant use the upgraded boots in the process

:hognar

[halcyon seal]

Also you’re not saving 1 slot because you’re definitely using wings anyways

[blazing field]

I have flame walker boots on my character's vanity, just put them on the vanity slot 🥹

this item has 0 reason to exist its the weirdest addition ever

[halcyon seal]

Weirdest addition ever is probablyyy

[rancid pagoda]

flame waker doesn't apply to rocket boots particles

[halcyon seal]

Honestly PDA

[high scaffold]

Why is bundle of balloons aerilite tier but terraspark have no changes to their craft

[halcyon seal]

Give me one reason for the PDA to exist

[halcyon seal]

Because terrasparks ain’t that good

Really it’s just a bunch of qol stuff

[grave geyser]

teraspark is just lightning boots with some extra stuff tacked on

[high scaffold]

Super fast running, 12% movespeed, light flight and a number of traversal helping features aint that good?

[halcyon seal]

You get all of that with lightning boots

Terraspark’s main upgrades are water walking boots

And ig lava charm if you’re into that sort of thing

[amber egret]

7 seconds of lava immunity

:D

[halcyon seal]

It’s def nice to have but far from necessary

Bundle is genuinely postgame viable if you know what you’re doing

[rancid pagoda]

obsidian rose already makes you take like no damage from lava

[halcyon seal]

I wouldn’t say it’s good postgame but it’s definitely viable

[grave geyser]

lightning boots are not retiered because why would they be
spectre + magi is already basically lightning speed anyway
bundle is an active competitor to wings which is why moving it in progression makes sense
you can have the individual balloons to compete with fledgling and then unlock bundle at the same time as skyline

[rancid pagoda]

terraspark has no benefits in boss fights beyond what lightning boots is already doing, bundle of balloons is much different

[halcyon seal]

Honestly if harpy ring got merged into terraspark recipe instead of angel treads

Might be hype

[amber furnace]

no wings + no boots run would be funny

[halcyon seal]

Hope you like featherfall

Actually that’s basically just wolfpet but you can use hooks right

[amber furnace]

true melee full tank build

hmmm

[vital epoch]

am i tripping or is brainstorm just reworks

[amber furnace]

yes

[halcyon seal]

Yes

[vital epoch]

[halcyon seal]

But it’s a LOOOOOOOOOT of reworks

Plus two new* bosses

[vital epoch]

oh bet

[amber furnace]

⁉️

[halcyon seal]

Brain and dog

[amber furnace]

oh rewoeks

[halcyon seal]

Reworks drastic enough to be basically new fights

[amber furnace]

nice

[mighty geyser]

not really

[rich ginkgo]

no lol

[mighty geyser]

that metric is one i agree with but dog is nowhere near big enough for that

[rich ginkgo]

straight up saying “two new bosses” is so insanely misleading

[mighty geyser]

brain is absolutely a New Boss though

[fierce hearth]

Brainstorm is the Shrunken Sealess Overhaul. It's smaller, it's got no Sea, but it is a lot of overhauls.

[rich ginkgo]

ill 1000% take it

[deft lily]

Yeah like 😭

[rich ginkgo]

id rather get some stuff from sso sooner than continue to wait to get it all in one big package

even if it makes sso a bit smaller

i dont think anyone really cares

[deft lily]

insert the 328918489142th "stop reworking everything in the mod thats objectively bad and give us yharim" comment here

[fierce hearth]

Considering the number of people coming in and saying "what there's still no SSO release??" I dunno

[deft lily]

i dont really know what this community's problem is with the dev reworking content thats extremely out of date and bringing it up to modern standards tbh.

but, to each their own ig

[rich ginkgo]

no i mean between
portion of sso content now but smaller sso
no sso but big sso later
i believe that people would take option 1 because no one really cares about bigger sso

content is content

[blazing field]

I think most people would take option 1 but some calamilings would probably still find a way to complain

[deft lily]

^ the reddit

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

[blazing field]

feed us we are the calamilings

[deft lily]

most of the reddit is either

complaining about upcoming changes
whining that dm dokuro left

[rich ginkgo]

there’s definitely some people who’d prefer option 2 but like it’s also a situational thing
in a lot of polls when game devs are asking whether the community would prefer “big update but wait long time or smaller updates but wait less time” people typically choose wait longer for big update

however in sso scenario i think we’ve all been waiting long enough

and would just prefer a refresher

[blazing field]

yeah

plus it'sa probably better for the dev team too

gives em time to restructure sso and seemingly fix the sort of Mess taht its been

[fathom girder]

It's one of the most transformative updates to the mod

so yes

but also

[blazing field]

It has some new content

[fathom girder]

it's going to be practically unrecognizable

[blazing field]

But mostly it's reworks yeah

Not just of weapons but of alot of stuff

It's setting the groundwork for every future update

[deft lily]

honestly i think people who hate reworks are just pissy because they have to relearn how some things work
which is really stupid lmfao

[blazing field]

the start of the nonfabsolian era or whatever

[rich ginkgo]

we love brainstorm

[blazing field]

brainstorm for 50

[fathom girder]

Stupid but inevitable. People like what they're comfortable with, it makes sense

But

yes it's stupid

those people are to be ignored

they're not devs, they don't have the right mindset, they are effectively irrelevant imo

[deft lily]

they are. idrc how they act at all tbh i just think they way they do act is really strange.

[fathom girder]

It's something you'll see in every game

They spent all this time learning how everything worked, only to find out that they don't work like that anymore

[rich ginkgo]

they’ll get used to it like when silksong revamped the original hk move set

[deft lily]

yeah
i think it's more prevelant in smaller game communities. idk why.

[fathom girder]

aka they'll complain but figure it out anyway

oh MAN the same thing happens in destiny 2 as well

to a MASSIVE degree

part of it is how a community is fostered by CCs or people in the team responsible for managing said community

[deft lily]

true!

[fathom girder]

I'm very harsh on certain content creators because of this

[rich ginkgo]

content creators can soooo easily destroy communities oh my god

content creation needs more limits and regulating imo

[blazing field]

crate incident

[deft lily]

yeah like
theres only two content creators in the terraria community i like

the rest are kinda just annoying

[fathom girder]

for the rest of us, it's best that we properly inform instead of fighting or anything

[rich ginkgo]

evil mura turning every piece of drama he can find into clickbait and cash farm vids

the ___ situation is crazy dudes….

[rancid pagoda]

that one video is so goddamn misleading, it's infuriating

[fathom girder]

it's important to foster knowledge

[deft lily]

i can't stand the guy

[fathom girder]

Mura makes me so mad LMAO

[deft lily]

his fanbase is fucking awful too

"where yharim"

[halcyon seal]

I think that’s the exact last thing that should be done actually

[fathom girder]

oh man, and then there's echo chambers like reddit

[rich ginkgo]

or what about when he posts a brand new video about upcoming cal content and everything in it is like a year okd

[fathom girder]

or tbh even discord

where people rile themselves up needlessly

[rich ginkgo]

“anything but yharim bro fr” 🥹

[deft lily]

echo chambers exist everywhere on the internet

its a matter of if us individuals choose to engage and/or enable them.

[fathom girder]

and hopefully not get drowned by the fools

[deft lily]

its kind of funny how his fanbase has gaslit themselves into thinking dog has been resprited (x) amount of times when most of his resprites happened like

7 years ago atp 😭

[fathom girder]

BUT ALSO it's good to not get carried away

the devs always know more than we do after all

best to let them handle stuff most of the time lul

[halcyon seal]

Half his fanbase wasn’t alive for the first dog resprite so I get why they’d have a hard time remembering

[fathom girder]

LMAO

[deft lily]

TRUE

byeah
anyways

brainstorm tomorrow

[fathom girder]

can't wait

[arctic cliff]

brainstorn for $50

[halcyon seal]

Brainstorm right now at this very moment

[deft lily]

the lion does not concern himself with talking about it

-# didn't we have this convo like yesterday..?

[arctic cliff]

[hasty hawk]

reworked Purple Haze + reworked Vampiric Talisman is gonna go nuts

[deft lily]

hi shade user

[hasty hawk]

hallo

[grave geyser]

ture...

[halcyon seal]

I can’t wait to see how fucked up the accessory meta will be early on

I’m fully intent on doing a regenator build

[grave geyser]

regenator when it

[halcyon seal]

It’s getting damage scaling for regen now

[grave geyser]

I am well aware

[lyric trellis]

Gonna be fun

[hasty hawk]

Old Fashioned builds will go hard next patch btw

tbh I should try nohitting exos on shroomed again once 2.1 comes out, maybe I'll do something funny

or just blow em the fuck up again like when I tried years ago

[lyric trellis]

Make sure it’s as visually cluttered at the old one with rogue

[high scaffold]

Honestly I think vanila water breathing potion is too much

[grave geyser]

true, it should be nerfed

it should make you instantly shrivel up and die if you ever leave water with the effect

[high scaffold]

I suggest either a multiplier to breath time or a flat amount equal to default

[hasty hawk]

tbh if 2.1 has my enchants (unlikely) I could try Scal first and then use it vs Exos

Sacrifice could blow exos up tho...

[grave geyser]

cant wait for another update of oblatory not being nerfed

[hasty hawk]

Pretty sure its nerfed

[grave geyser]

no one could have seen this coming

[hasty hawk]

enchant #2 can get as strong as oblatory iirc

if you dont miss

[lyric trellis]

Another 500 versions of Sacrifice spam being op and stealth being useless

[hasty hawk]

Stealth is quite good too iirc

but spam has the absurd lifesteal

and good dmg

(about to become more insane with Vamp Talisman rework, altho might be inherited into Nanotech)

(unlikely tho, most likely the raiders effect is gone for now afaik since Nano rework was just barely started when i left and now its not gonna be done)

[lyric trellis]

Actually nvm yeah I’m still stuck in old versions where it was bad cause it’s good rn, spam still better though

[terse dew]

we should buff the topaz hook

I think this would be a very controversial change

[upper plover]

Merkalto droppin hot takes now

[terse dew]

Merkalto is problematic media

[hasty hawk]

iirc both are good but spam is comedy rn

[grave geyser]

calamity (the accessory) changes are something I'm intrigued by if only because we've heard fuck and all about them
I look at the changed acc list and I think the only ones I dont really have any idea on are sea sprits amulet line and calamity (and spine but nobody cares about spine)

[terse dew]

I should look to see what the changes are and then not tell you

[lyric trellis]

Needs to be a nerf for people to care sorry, get 1 million views on YouTube

[blazing field]

Burrower

[vocal kelp]

we want to know what totem does because we are a mage player, we ont give a shit much else

[terse dew]

True actually

[hasty hawk]

y’all lucky I am busy with masters degree, I aint a dev anymore, and Summoner is first in line so no me rebalancing and reworking stuff

[vocal kelp]

if it's ezili btd6 we're going rip someones arms off

[terse dew]

-1 range on the ore pickaxes

[halcyon seal]

Calamity (accessory) exists?

[lyric trellis]

Totem is uhhh

[grave geyser]

isnt totem dead

[halcyon seal]

Ok this is actual supervillain shit

[grave geyser]

because sunny left

[hasty hawk]

Totem died iirc

[vocal kelp]

lmfao?

[terse dew]

what are you getting a master's in

[hasty hawk]

Biotechnology

[amber egret]

oh thats fun

[terse dew]

I know nothing about that

[amber egret]

anything specific planned or just to have it

[grave geyser]

rip mage accessories gone too soon
another 2 years of moonstone crown being dumb

[hasty hawk]

Escaping Latin America

[amber egret]

mmm! fun

[terse dew]

I will pursue an #omegawoke master's in the fall

[lyric trellis]

All blocking Merkalto after this

[halcyon seal]

As someone who has used the Topaz Hook for several minutes I am appalled at the Calamity developers for this gamebreaking change. That one block of reach they removed could be used to pull a child out of a burning building

[vocal kelp]

what if instead of rogue calamity had gauge

[amber egret]

why topaz hook in specific

[terse dew]

It's yellow

[amber egret]

why not the squirrel hook though

its a squirrel

[vocal kelp]

hasnt made a topaz hook because its one of the easiest early game hooks to get awar

[amber egret]

objectively cooler than yellow in my eyes

[terse dew]

It's not yellow

[grave geyser]

but hooks cant grapple to living things

[terse dew]

We should triple the cost of everything and nerf all gold drops by a ton

[grave geyser]

true?

[terse dew]

You WILL grind 12 hours for reforge gold

Also add item components to shops for recipes

[halcyon seal]

My child is Adamantite Plating Wall

[terse dew]

Imagine you need a vendor item to make uelibloom bars

That costs 40 silver per bar

😊

[amber egret]

bandit gives 110% refund

but goblin intentionally gives either the best (10%) or worst possible (90%)

[terse dew]

Bandit steal gets replaced with pilfer and they now give you rats

[halcyon seal]

The bandit has been assassinated

[tropic jolt]

thats #evil

[terse dew]

No, it's #antiquary from guild wars 2

[halcyon seal]

17 spiky balls were found in the back of their neck

[terse dew]

🙄

[grave geyser]

this has GOT to be discrimination

[hasty hawk]

Bandit gives refund but sometimes likes to launder money

[terse dew]

Pilfer is such a funny word

[hasty hawk]

how the fuck does it keep happening

[terse dew]

It really should replace refund

also tax collector now collects taxes from you as well

every day it takes 9.8% of your gold

There is also a new tax on every vendor item bought and sold

[fathom girder]

Good way to get evicted from my complexes

[terse dew]

We should make fishing mandatory for crafting end game items

[grave geyser]

true

[terse dew]

rare fishing drop used to make 1 miracle matter

😊

Keep fishing!

[grave geyser]

bring back psychotic amulet as a fishing item

[terse dew]

True

Coat it in ambergris and call it a day

[grave geyser]

being able to find old removed items as junk items actually sounds funny

[terse dew]

Just not the dedicated ones

[grave geyser]

fishing up a lead core

[mighty geyser]

that would go hard

[terse dew]

Honestly that's how it should've been always obtained

[mighty geyser]

holiday halberd covered in barnacles

[terse dew]

Adding mandatory exploration to make endgame items would be pretty funny

[grave geyser]

the tormented mind of malice fished up at the bottom of the abyss

[terse dew]

we should make an item only drop in pvp

[halcyon seal]

Using it enables malice mode, but only for boc

[terse dew]

and have that required to make items

[grave geyser]

no no, using it enabled prepare to die mode

[halcyon seal]

We are 30,000 angry rats and we agree!

[terse dew]

Finally a use for #multiplayer-looking-to-play

oh it's no longer hook ups

how sad

[halcyon seal]

Guy who goes into #multiplayer-looking-to-play and uses it like a dating app

[terse dew]

You joke but

There have been instances where that was the case

It was really funny

And really sad

and also dangerous

[fathom girder]

I mean honestly, once the distortion releases, isn't this gonna come true to an extent

[terse dew]

Right but I'm saying make it omega tedious

[fathom girder]

oh

[terse dew]

like you need 100 boar asses to make 1 item used to make 1 miracle matter

And I think that would be awesome

[vocal kelp]

you're right merkalto, the calamity mod should be more like calamity community remix, which incentivizes lategame farming and exploration!

[fathom girder]

oh

merkalto you're a genius

[halcyon seal]

We are Auric Soul description writers and we agree!

[terse dew]

No, we need to make it like mmorpg crafting

[vocal kelp]

that's exactly how remix works

[terse dew]

Also your gear stats get outdated every 2 weeks

[fathom girder]

I should 100% be forced to farm in the snow biome for 35 hours in order to get the boreal wood needed for one miracle matter component

[terse dew]

And you need to make more

[hard estuary]

True, since late game auric mining feels really wrong

[halcyon seal]

Huh that’s weird it says here you need 8 Wetware Mainframes and 128 Base UHV Superconductor Foil for the life alloy recipe

That’s strange

[hard estuary]

Auric ore veins should be smaller

[high scaffold]

Chat, are yall going to beat or play Brainstorm?

[terse dew]

I'd post a guild wars 2 legendary crafting recipe but it's too big to fit in a neat screenshot

[still bluff]

If cal updated more often this would happen

[halcyon seal]

I’m going to play gfb brainstorm

[drowsy reef]

Yes I think it’s reasonable to require five 2 percent chance carves to upgrade my armor

[terse dew]

No like, add a timer that cuts all stats by 25% after 2 weeks

[dull heart]

agreed

[hard estuary]

Prob beat brainstorm on exp rev

[terse dew]

So you have to make more of the same gear

[terse dew]

True

[fathom girder]

I'm gonna try to beat brainstorm in death mode

[high scaffold]

Beating means getting "QoL" and bossrushing the game

[hard estuary]

Then play

[terse dew]

Calamity mod will become a full time job for players

[pulsar cobalt]

beat. i personally dislike npc happiness and them dying to bosses so

[high scaffold]

And playing means actualy taking your time and enjoying the game

[amber furnace]

no one deserves to play calamity

[terse dew]

You will own nothing and you will be happy

[high scaffold]

Imho the biggest issue with all terraria and gaming as a whole is beating games instead of playing them

[hard estuary]

I kinda wish they fixed the npc health with the modded’s ones

[still bluff]

Every day in game your potions spoil and you need new ones

[terse dew]

Yeah

[pulsar cobalt]

wdym

[terse dew]

Old Witcher 3 gameplay

[hard estuary]

Like why does the modded ones have so much health

And in endgame the npc get all oneshot

[amber furnace]

I wish I had the creativity to make builds and not just do a Boss Rush all the time

[pulsar cobalt]

only perma and scal have a lot of hp

[distant raft]

isnt that because cal removes the 75% projectile resist that npcs have or smth

[hard estuary]

Amidias too

[pulsar cobalt]

well ig amidias does too but i think its only like 5k or whatever

[distant raft]

2500 i think

scal has her classic mode boss health

[pulsar cobalt]

the reason why they have so much hp is because theyre actually have some sort of strength

[distant raft]

in reality brimstone witch should probably only have like 500 hp considering all of her health during the fight comes from her bubble

[fathom girder]

you don't know that

[pulsar cobalt]

alternative would be to her have the bubble at all times

lol

[fathom girder]

she could be a tanky mfer

[distant raft]

if she was then why does she give up when her bubble goes down

[fathom girder]

do you want a pissed off terrarian with a sword that could rival god

to hit you when YOUR shield is down

idc if I have 100k health that would hurt like hell

[hard estuary]

True

[halcyon seal]

Because she knows at that point she’s got no shot?

[high scaffold]

Should I try uploading my effective enemy defence formula to the wiki?

[hard estuary]

And like whenever you hit the terrarian they just do “urgh” and that’s it

[grave geyser]

honestly theres enough mundane items for there to be one for each biome
forest: blighted lens
snow: frigid bars ig, or enchanted metal
desert: desert feather
dungeon: ectoblood
jungle: beetle juice
hell: demonic bone ash
crags: ashen key
corruption: fetid essence
crimson: bloodletling essence
sulphur sea: tenebris
ocean: sea shell
sunken sea: probably any number of things post sso
astral: crystallite
underground: diamond dust
mushroom: fungal carapace

[distant raft]

idk you could probably do something

[fathom girder]

hoh lee textwall

I like this though this would be funny

[dusty tinsel]

Didn't all of these get axed 😂

[pulsar cobalt]

wasnt fungal carapce that fuck ass nothing burger absorber material accessory

[grave geyser]

yes

[pulsar cobalt]

did

you read the context?

[grave geyser]

thats the point
its removed items as fishing junk items

[dusty tinsel]

No

I just popped in you think I scroll up?

[distant raft]

yeah

[dusty tinsel]

Nah too lazy for that

I just have others explain what's going on instead

[spark kiln]

calamity was ruined when they removed the blighted lens.

[grave geyser]

true...

[distant raft]

this is true

[dusty tinsel]

I forgot those existed

Victory shards are peak

[pulsar cobalt]

theres someone out there in the world believing this probably

[dusty tinsel]

The mod won't ever be the same without uh red desert scourge

And purple destroyer

And black and red retinizer

[grave geyser]

wdym that ones still here

[dusty tinsel]

Nuh uh

They killed it

[halcyon seal]

My self worth is derived from the Sky Stabber in the calamity mod and if it gets removed I will bomb CD’s mailbox

[dusty tinsel]

Don't threaten a dev smh

Bad searslug

[halcyon seal]

Ok I’m literally a slug ???? Who is searing ?????

[dusty tinsel]

You are a searslug

[hasty hawk]

new moderator?

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[buoyant pulsar]

this is a good idea

[fierce hearth]

We got the coldheart icicle back tho

[thorny fjord]

Not really

But kinda

[grave geyser]

its not the same

[misty wren]

its better

[grave geyser]

its worse

[thorny fjord]

It kills faster, but isn't in normal progression by any means

[grave geyser]

its a replacement for alicorn on a stick that immediately makes it worse
would rather the item just been killed than have coldheards legacy tarnished like this smh

[hasty tangle]

as a coldheart enthusiast im glad its back and stronger than ever

id take that over it just being gone and forgotten forever

[cunning sequoia]

it killed the alicorn

highlander style

[grave geyser]

yknow what this I can get behind

[misty wren]

its coldheart it will never be forgotten

[drowsy reef]

Ugh the new Purple Haze benefits spam rogue players?

I hate spam

[mystic eagle]

Can you turn into Tredede again

[cunning sequoia]

maybe eventually

[grave geyser]

no its hybrid smh

[pulsar cobalt]

can you never turn into tredede again

[cunning sequoia]

maybe eventually

[rare tinsel]

Can we make spam rogue a bannable offense

[cunning sequoia]

i agree

[hasty tangle]

i thought spamming in general was discouraged

[cunning sequoia]

spam rogue is for people who just want to play worse ranger

[mystic eagle]

No and I have reasons for it not to be

[rare tinsel]

real

[grave geyser]

only if we also ban people who use ammoless ranger

[pulsar cobalt]

i mean its never discouraged in game (theres a lot that actually encourages it like glove of recklessness and ethereal extorter and whatnot) and current plans for rogue are to encourage more hybrid playstyles overall

[rare tinsel]

It’s a worthwhile sacrifice

[mystic eagle]

These are all my reasons crammed into a single video

[terse dew]

We should ban everyone but merkalto

[thorny fjord]

But the nova diffuser line is so cool : (

[rare tinsel]

Not watching

Heresy

[hasty tangle]

i was making a joke in the context of discord

[cunning sequoia]

remove every item except pauldron

[pulsar cobalt]

oh

[hasty tangle]

cuz spamming messages is bad

[pulsar cobalt]

yeah dont spam yall

its bad

[grave geyser]

spam rogue, ammoless ranger, there is virtually no difference
it is a sacrifice that must be made

[cunning sequoia]

you should spam

[mystic eagle]

What about already placed blocks

[cunning sequoia]

i havent banned anyone in a while

[rare tinsel]

Remove the rest of the mod too. Just make it a png of pauldron

[grave geyser]

true

[mystic eagle]

A

[cunning sequoia]

pauldramity

[amber egret]

remove everything actually

no terraria

just pauldron

[pulsar cobalt]

we should remove prismback

[hushed hazel]

scaul blart, mall witch

[amber egret]

(comedically it now does nothing)