calamity-update-talk

[vivid hemlock]

kiriblight you are a bastion of malice and unwholesomeness

[lavish otter]

You radiate EVIL ENERGY

[lapis oak]

doze has only like 12 comments 😭

this is ridiculous

[strong isle]

I have no clue how this ever sounded like a good idea to someone

[mighty geyser]

all the ragebaiters are too scared to comment on a dev post

[distant raft]

im sorry for your loss

[lyric trellis]

Kiri human shield

[lavish otter]

Also like...somehow someone thought to argue that the subreddit's community is toxically positive 😭

[valid crypt]

Yeah somehow

[dull heart]

It would make sense only for something like Ravager

where it's entirely different

[fallen olive]

yeah a past boss would only be good if the past ver is stronger or entirely different

otherwise its just really silly

[lyric trellis]

Old lore Provi clearly

[lavish otter]

Yeah, because you'd just get a whole different interaction there, as opposed to just...the boss, but weaker

[dull heart]

Wait cook

[modern grove]

Me vs Hitler fetus bossfight

[dull heart]

Past bosses where we fight the old lore versions

[mighty geyser]

what if i took your experience and made it worse

[mighty geyser]

JWENVLNKFKNDK

[graceful ivy]

Ancient godslayer

[mighty geyser]

yharim toddler boss fight

[lapis oak]

awesome Pauldron submissions

[fallen olive]

the past bosses are a good idea because fabsol can just reuse the ai and slow the boss down + remove some projectiles

actually

[mighty geyser]

its just a button prompt to throw him into lava

[dull heart]

this is literally just invoked stargod

[lavish otter]

Still amazed that the latest one got accepted by a landslide

[lyric trellis]

True

[fallen olive]

work smarter not harder 🧠

[lavish otter]

Well deserved, it's a good sprite, that's just wild to me

[lyric trellis]

1 lightyear long deus

[dull heart]

The equip sprite sold me on it

[rich ginkgo]

hold on are you telling me fab had an idea where you can fight a version of bosses in the past (where they would literally be weaker and easier to beat)

[lavish otter]

Even if you just look at the sprites that got accepted, only a minority of them get through with no ❌ s

[fallen olive]

yes that was the original vision of the Future Bosses (originally the past bosses)

[dull heart]

I do prefer the current design for pauldron personally

[halcyon seal]

whats the pauldron submission

[dull heart]

but like

[fallen olive]

you need to beat them to get the power to trap goozma

[lavish otter]

Fair enough honestly, it's clean

[dull heart]

equip sprite mmm

[mighty geyser]

thats such a confusing sentence

[valid crypt]

Rare mention outside lore chat

[fallen olive]

fr lmao

[mighty geyser]

this was the past version of the future bosses (originally the past bosses)

[rich ginkgo]

wow im appalled

has this guy ever had one good idea

seriously

[fallen olive]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[mighty geyser]

no

[distant raft]

everything he made that was good was entirely accidental

[mighty geyser]

shoutout point blank damage my favorite ultrakill mechanic that literally Does Not Exist

[dull heart]

Amen

[lapis oak]

point blank so good it krilled itself because of splash damage

[pulsar cobalt]

🙏

[rich ginkgo]

when calamity is finished someone needs to round up ALL of fabs ideas to compare the differences between a calamity with fab and now a calamity without

i think the differences would be hilarious

[lavish otter]

Actually I wonder, is there a consensus on which one of the sprites is preferred?

[modern grove]

How often do you bring up hitler in lore chat wtf

[lavish otter]

Like, the left or the right one?

[distant raft]

2.0.4 calamity vs 2.1

[dull heart]

0 discussion about it

[lavish otter]

...you'd be surprised

[mighty geyser]

thi is why we need calamity fabulous

[dull heart]

I prefer the right one

[lyric trellis]

Point blank (literally just how normal shotguns work due to physics)

[mighty geyser]

point blank damage was literally based on a damage boost for one (1) enemy with one (1) weapon in ultrakill

😭

[lavish otter]

A lot of it going back to calling Yharim Hitler
(I call upon you, automod!)

[teal bone]

Hello

[lapis oak]

hiiiiii

[lyric trellis]

Such an inspiration

[rich ginkgo]

the new calamity update where shotguns are more shotgunny

[lapis oak]

here're the latest versions

[dense sundial]

that was partially a bug! i think

[mighty geyser]

yeah it started as a bug but became a feature

like a lot of ultrakill tech

[lyric trellis]

Kiri leaks btw

[valid crypt]

I have heard that most mentions are in lore chat just from comparing yharim

[bright crane]

I saw the video in newsteller and noticed moon walkers have that moon lord sprite that was made in submissions, are the crystal ones still going to be used?? I love the colorful elemental theme here and prefer that over ml-related

[lapis oak]

WHAT YOU MEAN

no f u

not falling for it

[lyric trellis]

Framed

[dense sundial]

wait, remind me why biome blades are here

[lapis oak]

I am innocent

[lapis oak]

some removed, some merged, some new

[dense sundial]

some new?

[lapis oak]

ye the the

[dense sundial]

i do remember hallow and astral are merged or such

[lyric trellis]

General improvements

[lapis oak]

the Pure one

the Pure one will be new

[dense sundial]

oh pure clarity was reworked

[lapis oak]

no not Pure the fucking

[lavish otter]

Doesn't the pure one already exist?

[lapis oak]

normal grass

[bright crane]

????

[lyric trellis]

Same reason for arks

[lapis oak]

new Pure not glorpshit projectile sword

[teal bone]

Seems good to me 👌

[dense sundial]

it could certainly use a better swing than useStyle1

[dull heart]

I should post a spoiler every time you finish working on this

[lapis oak]

yeah Ark got big changes to gameplay loop ngl

[halcyon seal]

tl;dr play melee

[lapis oak]

you're so evil you know that

😔

[dull heart]

You need to add hallowed rune and phantomic artifact

[lapis oak]

surely it's not in BS

[dull heart]

They are

[lapis oak]

😭

[dull heart]

Well hallowed rune is kinda just a buff

[lyric trellis]

Completely forgot Spectralstorm got reworked

[dull heart]

Phantomic is a rework

Hallowed just spawns more stars and they actually hit

[lapis oak]

she just called your work shit and forgotten @boreal edge

[lyric trellis]

Hi cit

[lapis oak]

ngl kinda true

[lyric trellis]

?

Banned

[lapis oak]

😔

[lapis oak]

so when the last changelogs

patch

[lapis oak]

not finished

[lavish otter]

I think at a certain point, it stops being an explosion and becomes a colony of ants

[boreal edge]

ombgi swarm

[mighty geyser]

[high scaffold]

I want to try out arsenal armor so much already

[lyric trellis]

Is this replacing Dragonfolly

[strong isle]

So true

[bright crane]

I see, is it a placeholder?

[boreal edge]

I wish

[lapis oak]

what placeholder?

[bright crane]

moon walkers having the sprite from submissions

[lapis oak]

the submission one was made long ago before Dia started working on boots

[bright crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1442382153999450234/preview-1.gif

[bright crane]

Ah I see nvm

[vivid hemlock]

it was a sprite submitted in calart that was accepted a while back before tobias/dia worked on respriting all of the tracers

[strong isle]

Man
Someone in Reddit just used the bird, Fab and Shayy incidents as ammunition against us
I was wondering when that was gonna happen

[lapis oak]

SSO took too long that's why it's not ingame yet

[dull heart]

No more

[lapis oak]

wtf

undocumented changelogs

[bright crane]

makes sense

[dull heart]

They were added after last changelog

[mighty geyser]

oh ok

reddit just caught up to youtube's toxicity then

[gloomy grove]

new update shadow dropping on the 1st of jan chat

[dull heart]

I reworked them 9 months ago but they were on summoner brandh

[boreal edge]

I gatekeep the changelogs

[dense sundial]

Some birds are basically ombgus if you think about it

[dull heart]

I pulled them out

[strong isle]

I told you Reddit and Youtube were all in the same

[bright crane]

I'm happy with the newsteller

[lyric trellis]

True

[lyric trellis]

Summoner branch…

Horror story

[high scaffold]

What summoner branch?

[vivid hemlock]

100 more whips in 1.4.5

[high scaffold]

Summoner modifiers

[vivid hemlock]

branch for rebalancing and reworking summoner weapons around whips im assuming

[high scaffold]

Might be better to wait till 1.4.5 by now

[vivid hemlock]

its been frozen ever since summoner modifiers were revealed

like months ago

[high scaffold]

Goog

[cunning sequoia]

btw i love that in the reply chain you commented in, people arent talking SHIT to you but are perfectly happy complaining about the mod to some random guy in the exact same chain

[gloomy grove]

goog

[cunning sequoia]

truly incredible

[mighty geyser]

YES EXACTLY

theyre so scared of getting told off by someone with authority 😭

[dull heart]

I also pulled out Dreadmine Staff rework

But it's not gonna be in 2.1

[mighty geyser]

same picture

[dense sundial]

What even is this

[vivid hemlock]

horrible

[cunning sequoia]

owl

[dense sundial]

A potoo?

[mighty geyser]

common potoo

[dense sundial]

Thought so

[lyric trellis]

Reminds me that owlgus is a thing

[agile latch]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-reddit-gold-kind-stranger-slot-machine-gif-9286172767555917428

[vivid hemlock]

horrible

[long wing]

Is the montage on the website available in a higher quality anywhere?

[agile latch]

Potoos are very ombgus

[snow moth]

isn't stip the one who got giga ratio'd during crategate? maybe people are intentionally ignoring him now because of that idk

[cunning sequoia]

nah he's getting upvoted here

[agile latch]

Urutau

[cunning sequoia]

but yeah that was him too

[agile latch]

[pulsar cobalt]

stip has done this a lot whenever theres a controversy in the reddit

[snow moth]

what is this demon

[pulsar cobalt]

its not like crate was the first time hes done it,,

[wide wadi]

This guy is so cute

[azure oak]

he so happey

[lyric trellis]

The mouth

[cunning sequoia]

minus that one guy stip mentioned, the replies to devs in the comments have been few and chill

[dull heart]

I think the bigger example is my post on the letter has less comments but 100% are positive while Kiri's post has many more but also 75% negative

[mighty geyser]

great potoo <3

[agile latch]

Brazil potoo, urutau, also called mãe da lua ( mother of moon )

[snow moth]

ah ok

[cunning sequoia]

and the rest is ridiculously toxic

[agile latch]

Their sounds are p creepy

[long wing]

(editing a youtube short and the compression from the website is crazy)

[dull heart]

So it's not just a Stip thing

[agile latch]

https://youtu.be/NBfGdj5niqo?si=iAA-uaiPm1gxjtDQ

[dull heart]

The complainers have no real feedback to give

They just wanna complain

[snow moth]

it's a "predictably toxic community" thing ye

[agile latch]

Potoo is peak creature

[lapis oak]

it's actually so surreal seeing it happening in real time

[agile latch]

Should add a potoo to calamity..

[boreal edge]

Sprite it

[vivid hemlock]

new mob vote critter

[snow moth]

The dichotomy of man?

[lyric trellis]

Potoo, one of the seven folly souls

[lapis oak]

🥹

[wise bolt]

potoo !!!!!

[snow moth]

Wait sorry the phrase is "the duality of man"

[agile latch]

True

[dull heart]

Ikr

[lapis oak]

doze could you spoil what the fuck does Unstable Caster's Gauntlet even do

[agile latch]

Potoo and nightjar are peak folly material

Tbh

[agile latch]

Donor

Saggi user made it

[dull heart]

It casts unstablely

[agile latch]

So ask them

[lapis oak]

right...

[agile latch]

[lapis oak]

ye it sounds very donor coded

[distant raft]

what the fuck kind of weapon is this
this is unstable caster's gauntlet, a weapon that will be added to calamity mod soon. only its name has been revealed to the public.

[lapis oak]

shut up Patron

😠

[distant raft]

i dont even remember whats been shown of it in the patreon

im just as clueless as you are on it

[lapis oak]

not importan

[vivid hemlock]

theres a video in patreon

[lyric trellis]

This is like Mad Alchemist Cocktail Glove 2

[mighty geyser]

racism

[lapis oak]

omg that weapon

it looks so bad

genuinely sad weapon to look at

[lyric trellis]

Hop off my goat

[cunning sequoia]

rework it into a plague knight reference

🙏

[mighty geyser]

I WAS ABOUT TO SAY

[lapis oak]

can't take you seriously anymore

[mighty geyser]

make it spin the bottle shovel knight

thats all i can think of when i see it

[cunning sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/shovel-shovel-knight-plague-knight-plague-doctor-dance-gif-13530928039953310021

i love this silly entity

[pulsar cobalt]

smthn smthn donor item

[mighty geyser]

hes so goober

[misty wren]

dastardly evil individual

[lapis oak]

would be awesome tho might be too complicated

[lyric trellis]

Hating for no reason

[misty wren]

@mighty geyser hits you with my beam

[dull heart]

dude a weapon that plays like plague of shadows

Would be so cool

[cunning sequoia]

IKR

i adore plague of shadows flask combos

they're so cool

[mighty geyser]

WHAT

[strong isle]

I would like to see them being more honest
I'm not even exerting any authority lol

[cunning sequoia]

i think they just dont have anything of substance to say

so they're just being quippy

[lapis oak]

I'm saving this like presents ready to open

when I wake up next time

[dull heart]

lol

[strong isle]

Yes, but it was the first time I got giga ratio'd anywhere despite involving myself with controversial topics whenever they pertain to dev stuff
And even in that post, some people started to show respect for me after talking for a bit

[tropic jolt]

oh deer 🦌

[lapis oak]

chat look

fat fuck

[tropic jolt]

the meal

[strong isle]

Let's see how the rude guy answers me next time

This isn't a jab or anything, I'm genuinely curious if they're gonna keep it up

[wide wadi]

Ratio buddy

[thick spire]

Damn I missed the fun

[wide wadi]

Smelly head ahh

Keep up that positive negativity

[thick spire]

Oj we talking about how fun YouTube comments and reddit are

[mighty geyser]

yeah

[tropic jolt]

🧠⛈️

[lyric trellis]

Nutritious

[thick spire]

This is why I avoid reddit I have enough on my plate managing a discord.

[wide wadi]

Your a mod

[tropic jolt]

I deleted my reddit recently

[pulsar cobalt]

no one has responded to my comment yet,,,,

[high scaffold]

Brain thunder cloud

[thick spire]

Yes I am in fact the owner of this discord

[tropic jolt]

brainthunder cloud rain

[wide wadi]

Dang that’s cool

[tropic jolt]

I am healing

[lavish otter]

Y'know, something I think is pretty funny is how some people are referring to the crate and mining set changes as nerfing "niche tech". Like ah yes, the niche tech that is...using the set that duplicates ores to duplicate ores, fishing for crates, fishing for crates, and fishing for crates

[high scaffold]

Im gonna be brainstorming so hard

[lapis oak]

also what smoke @pulsar cobalt @vivid hemlock

night time is so dark I can't see shit

[vivid hemlock]

the video

[lapis oak]

what smoke u talking about

oh

ok

[pulsar cobalt]

why you tagging me

😭

[lapis oak]

idk I saw u talking about it earlier

[teal bone]

"Hey bro can I get a lil off the top"

[pulsar cobalt]

no i wasnt

[lapis oak]

vas...?

nevermind

[tropic jolt]

I didnt know catastrophe was a barber

[cunning sequoia]

they had to make money somehow

[mighty geyser]

what do you think the sword is for

[high scaffold]

Calamitas clone will be more calamitas

[tropic jolt]

killing probably

but cutting hair works too

[mighty geyser]

thats stupid why would you ever think that

[pulsar cobalt]

bold assumption

[dull heart]

Brighten your screen

[lavish otter]

Well now I'm blind

[vivid hemlock]

oh my god

magenta scal

[lapis oak]

vro wtf

[pulsar cobalt]

thats certainly brightened

[azure oak]

the smoke is visible now

[pulsar cobalt]

also vanillin hows updating The Doc going?

[lapis oak]

that's a fucking Nebula

[vivid hemlock]

didnt have to change much

[tropic jolt]

scal if she was evil

[dull heart]

this goes hard

[lyric trellis]

Figuring out fnaf teasers in 2015

[lapis oak]

no that is, haram

ok I'll do it

[dull heart]

someone already brightened the image

[lapis oak]

dont car

[dull heart]

brighten the video

it won't help

[mighty geyser]

🔥

[lapis oak]

🤔

[vivid hemlock]

its easier to see it in the video i believe

[vivid hemlock]

this is horrible

[teal bone]

dont car

[lapis oak]

why there's smoke in Scal fight buh

[dull heart]

take a guess

[teal bone]

pre-fight vape

[lapis oak]

L vape

[snow moth]

So I have heard.

[high scaffold]

Someone is very stinky

[plush carbon]

so i've heard....

[lapis oak]

oh wow the smoke looking really nice

[azure oak]

someone tried smoking a cig but accidentally started a forest fire

[lapis oak]

when you see it's moving

still image doesn't do it justice that is true

[high scaffold]

I wonder when calclone resprite

And what itll be

[dull heart]

yeah

now you just gotta wait till you see the arena itself

[lapis oak]

vas...

show...

[high scaffold]

We are calamity fans, we require visual spoilers

[thick spire]

LOL

[pulsar cobalt]

uhh spoiler im working for cal now totally

[thick spire]

good job dev team they've been popping off im proud of them

[dull heart]

I'll show a video of it in March how about that

[azure oak]

wait

[cunning sequoia]

let's have a watch...

[lapis oak]

dude the fucking

[pulsar cobalt]

how useful

[lapis oak]

Artifact accs are in HM and PML

I have to edit 2 charts...

[misty wren]

THE FUCKING 😨

[high scaffold]

Silly, update is coming out before march

[vivid hemlock]

new limbus canto

[lapis oak]

the fucking 😔

[misty wren]

all lore delayed 1 month

[lavish otter]

I actually have a pretty major spoiler!

[dull heart]

You could leave out hallowed rune tbh

it could be considered a stat buff

[dull heart]

Phantomic knives and heart function different though

[lapis oak]

but the stars behaviour changes right so it's like Deific Amulet

or is it

[thick spire]

I should stream a playthrough when the update drops

[dull heart]

I don't think so

I think they're just really fast

[lapis oak]

alright then

[high scaffold]

All draedon labs being updated

[shut ridge]

fr?

[azure oak]

yeeees

[high scaffold]

I heard so

[azure oak]

check the download page on the site

[shut ridge]

How much different

[azure oak]

it has funny images

[shut ridge]

omg

[lapis oak]

is SG rework in?

[vivid hemlock]

no

[shut ridge]

I must see

[high scaffold]

Also new sea prism tiles sprites

Looks yummy

[lapis oak]

what? it's not SS related

[vivid hemlock]

not finished/doze is busy with other things

[lapis oak]

ah

didn't he say it's finished?

or I misremembered

[vivid hemlock]

well theres some issues he has to fix iirc

[lapis oak]

got it

[high scaffold]

I wonder when are new labs coming to the game

[lapis oak]

BS

[pseudo vector]

in brainstorm

[high scaffold]

And SS lab too?

[pseudo vector]

yes

the new tile textures will be in the update

[high scaffold]

What about new sea prism tile sprite seen in a promotional image

[vivid hemlock]

thats included

[high scaffold]

And stohn?

[vivid hemlock]

probably

[high scaffold]

Like stone, but stohn

[vivid hemlock]

stohne is a random sprite heart decided to make based off of lihzahrd bricks that became the replacement for normal stone in the jungle apparently

[teal bone]

Thats something not in cal

[vivid hemlock]

oh is it gone now

[near sable]

will wrath of there gods be compatible with 2.1

brain storm

[high scaffold]

Hmmm, it will probably separate by this point

[pseudo vector]

[high scaffold]

WotG never fit calamity

Thats why I was its hater

[plush carbon]

that is so awesome

[high scaffold]

But since they announced their separation from calamity to become a thing of their own I became chill about it

[modern grove]

WoTG never fit calamity
That's why I'm it's number 1 glazer

[dull heart]

Stohne is still real

[azure oak]

i like that it's seperating from calamity

[dull heart]

It doesn't generate naturally though

[modern grove]

I see a pattern here hahaha

[dull heart]

It's a drop from bohldohr

[azure oak]

neat

[vivid hemlock]

thats good

[high scaffold]

Earth elemental resprite/rework when?

Its one of the most boring enemies if not the most boring

[modern grove]

In calamity 21.0

[lyric trellis]

Calamity 9 + 10

[vivid hemlock]

later

[lavish otter]

Ohh, will it exist alongside the lihzahrd brick drops, or is it gonna replace them?

[high scaffold]

I wonder how will development go after 1.4.5 releases

[fathom girder]

it'll probably go the same way it's gone with every other major vanilla update

aka they'll be waiting on tmod to get a 1.4.5 patch so they can work on porting it

[frigid pebble]

I saw something a while ago about a jungle subbiome calamity would add

[fathom girder]

like. tmod does betas for that right?

[frigid pebble]

Is that still a thing?

[dull heart]

Replace

[lavish otter]

Makes sense

[high scaffold]

I hope for dungeon and temple gen rework in 1.4.5

Would be so nice

[modern grove]

Copium

I don't think anything like that happens anytime

Anywhen

[vivid hemlock]

all we're getting are new dungeon entrances sadly

[modern grove]

Oh I forgot about that

But yeah still

[agile citrus]

Would be a cool surprise if the jungle temple got a bit of a makeover

[modern grove]

Well it does have something new

[high scaffold]

Remember, we didnt know anything about shimmer either

[modern grove]

Grass can grow on the bricks

[vivid hemlock]

theres moss on the bricks now

[modern grove]

This is a small touch but it makes it look so much better

[high scaffold]

It was a 100% surprise addition, so could be generation updates

[agile citrus]

All we knew was a fourth liquid was coming

[high scaffold]

Why would they spoil us new dungeon and temple features if it isnt a hint to generation upgrade

[modern grove]

If they're changing dungeon generation I'm pulling my hair out and eat it

[simple merlin]

Funny tidbit I had a dream about a completely alternate world gen for Terraria that pretty much changed every biome and replaced dungeon with some really tall tower

[modern grove]

This, too, is a oneshot reference

[high scaffold]

Why update just the entrance to the dungeon without any changes inside

[pulsar cobalt]

because relogic is like that sometimes

[modern grove]

Hype moments and aura

[lapis oak]

because it'll look cool

[pulsar cobalt]

watch the ml fight be unchanged

[high scaffold]

And the new entrances would make old generation look even more bad

[modern grove]

It will probably be unchanged

Did they change any boss ever, not counting adding new difficulties

Actually they did change king slime I think

[pulsar cobalt]

final boss of pre hm is wof but then you see queen slime and like woah so cool sprite and then mechs.

like

consistent quality is just not a thing in terraria

[vivid hemlock]

the quality difference between ml's spritework and the actual fight

[pulsar cobalt]

real

[high scaffold]

Sneaky moon lord resprite hinting on that other resprites might come in the future

[pseudo vector]

i do wonder how many resprites there are gonna be in 1.4.5

[modern grove]

I can see some bosses getting makeover kinda like what happened with Queen Bee in 1.4

[high scaffold]

I think a lot

[modern grove]

They resprited a lot

[pulsar cobalt]

at least 5 i think,,,

[high scaffold]

They will eventually resprite all old slimes

[modern grove]

But a lot of it is dedicated to a good content (furniture and tiles

[pulsar cobalt]

also im cooked chat i forgot how to keep a sprite from going upside down when used as a projectile

[icy stump]

There's a list in the Upcoming Features on the vanilla wiki

[pulsar cobalt]

💔

[high scaffold]

Not all tho

[modern grove]

Banner and trophies repsrites are cool

New pine tree furniture is goated

[cunning sequoia]

all of them

terraria 2

[icy stump]

Yes, there are only the teased ones

[agile citrus]

Lowkey eager for some of the new furniture sets to mess around with

[high scaffold]

Cant wait for new furniture to release to keep using wooden boxes

[modern grove]

Lame player lame player booooo 👎

[icy stump]

Snow furniture set is beautiful

[high scaffold]

I like my wooden table and chair

[lavish otter]

I like palm furniture, personally

[lapis oak]

why u coding

next Cal dev

[dull heart]

Just rotate it in pre draw

[misty wren]

flip the sprite upside down

[fallen olive]

(this is unironically the solution you use sprite effects)

[dull heart]

Only if you want it mirrored

not rotated

[fallen olive]

The issue is that it's going upside down as it rotates I think

[high scaffold]

Cant wait for calamity hitting the modern mod standarts

[spark kiln]

standfarts

[near sable]

so if you play with wrath of the gods enabled and calamity disabled what happens

if they’re separated

i thought they were dependent

[azure oak]

they won't be eventually

[valid crypt]

Wotg 2 wont be an addon afaik

[near sable]

will 2.1 cause wotg to be unplayable

for a time

[high scaffold]

Probably

[near sable]

man

[high scaffold]

And infernum be dead

[near sable]

i wanted to start one

[lavish otter]

You've got time

[near sable]

but 1.4.5 is coming so i’m waiting now 2.1 is coming raaa i don’t wanna get burnt out

will 1.4.5 interfere with 2.1

[high scaffold]

You have some time

[hushed hazel]

i was trying to think of the quickest way to describe wotg splitting off from cal and for whatever reason the first word that came to mind was divorce

[near sable]

right but i usually do one or two plays a year bc of burnout and they’re both seeming to get major updates

i’m mixed lol

[lavish otter]

I don't think so, no
I could be wrong, but I don't think it'll cause issues until TMod updates to accommodate to it, you just won't be able to play Calamity and 1.4.5 at the same time for a while

[near sable]

aw

i did figure so

regardless of 2.1

[dull heart]

1.4.5 won't interfere

[high scaffold]

Let me break it down for you
First is vanila 1.4.5 release, it will not come with tmod update so it will still be 1.4.4 for a while
Then calamity 2.1 comes out on tmod 1.4.4, itll likely make some addons not work

[lavish otter]

Yeah that seems about right

[high scaffold]

And then its up to addon developers to fix it

[lavish otter]

Now the ultimate question is, which will come first? TMod 1.4.5, or Calamity SSO?

[plush carbon]

i think Infernum dies with 1.4.5 release and not 2.1 but I might be wrong

[plush carbon]

tmod 1.4 i wanna say...

[misty wren]

infernum has plans to locally load a copy of current calamity iirc

[desert garnet]

iirc infernum will be on 1.4.5 but not 2.1

[lavish otter]

Yeah, that's fair

[misty wren]

dont know when thats happening but basically it just has an old copy of calamity included with it

[near sable]

i’m avoiding infern i’ve just never done wotg been wanting to but all these updates are coming

thanks for the timeline

[plush carbon]

really? They're gonna keep it maintained???

Positive Lucille really wanted Infernum dead

[lavish otter]

At least considering that SSO is on temporary hiatus and the fact that they're apparently redoing the worldgen?

[near sable]

i’ll play 1.4.5 first since it’ll be a few weeks till it’s here

[misty wren]

she doesnt work on infermum anymore

[plush carbon]

i guess

still the plan sounded like the devs were leaving it for dead

guess they changed their mind

[near sable]

so if tmod is 1.4.4 and calamity is 2.1 will wotg be compatible still?

making sure for later

[misty wren]

its either they leave it dead or do the frozen cal version option

[wooden blade]

It's already dead

[misty wren]

maybe

[desert garnet]

yes

[plush carbon]

personally i dont think its worth it

[misty wren]

(its still being maintained)

[desert garnet]

but wont get content updates

[near sable]

i wanna play wotg for the first time but also play 2.1 after 1.4.5

since they’re so close

i just want to make sure they dont clash, since 2.1 is so big

[wooden blade]

Yeah it's just for the worthy

[plush carbon]

thats a lot of work for a mod thats caused so much turbulence

[deft lily]

^

[misty wren]

what turbulence

[deft lily]

imho it needs to die but im not a developer

[plush carbon]

perhaps some things are best left forgotten

[misty wren]

like genuinely

the only turbulence is infernum dog

[spark kiln]

lmao what the hell are you talking about

[flat folio]

Not really

[deft lily]

speak of the devil

[plush carbon]

you have gave that impression off before

[wide nova]

she appears again

[valid crypt]

Lmao

[deft lily]

HI tyeski!!!

[spark kiln]

if infernum needs to die because of “turbulence” i can’t imagine what should happen to calamity

[flat folio]

To put it a bit more accurately, I'm just tired of it constantly being bashed
But frankly that's a terrible reason to wish the entire project dead

If it dies, it should and will be for logistical reasons, not because of one person's ails over random strangers online

[spark kiln]

calamity has been 100x more calamitous than infernum

[lavish otter]

Infernumous

[near sable]

or or or or or funny box quote fnaf reference spotted

[dull heart]

infernum is cool

[wide nova]

i think infernum is cool af

[dull heart]

like I don't personally enjoy it but lots of people love it

[near sable]

infernum gives me a skill check

[dull heart]

Except dog I love infernum dog

[near sable]

is master + death possible?

[wide nova]

infernum hivemind my favorite fight ever

[deft lily]

Hard disagree but to each their own

[misty wren]

yeah

[near sable]

would it be harder than infernum expert mode

[lyric trellis]

Every mod ever removed for experiencing any turbulence

[misty wren]

it would be less fair

[near sable]

i typically do expert death, i gave up at skeletron in infernum

[deft lily]

ive never fought infernum hive mind cuz I dont play corruption 😭

I always do crimson.

[near sable]

there should be opposite world evil island

[dense sundial]

My condolences for the fact you fought Infernum Eater

[deft lily]

even then I still dont rely bother with the opposite evil boss when in a playthrough

[near sable]

so 2.1 + wotg should still be fine

[spark kiln]

just use fargos best of both worlds

[flat folio]

Overall I think wanting projects to die because of personal opinions is kinda selfish tbh?
It's asking for all the love that projects like these get to just be snuffed out through nu fault of those people

Not that it's wrong to vehemently dislike smth ofc, but I dun really align with the "Ohh I wish the project would die so I could stop having all these people complaining" viewpoint when I actually take it seriously beyond irrational exasperation

[mystic eagle]

Can we unpin the pinned amidias, pls

[desert garnet]

no

[misty wren]

there is no pinned amidias

[mystic eagle]

I'm horrified by it

[plush carbon]

This message was why I thought it had such a strong effect on you that it wasnt worth continuing

[flat folio]

Yeahhh, I dun agree with that anymore
But I do understand why it'd be taken that way given the tone

Realistically I prolly said that when I was in a bad mood

[plush carbon]

I see,

[flat folio]

I'll leave that there, doe
Bit of a negative topic and this is the update talk channel anyway

[plush carbon]

Yea, whatever happens happens with Infernum

[deft lily]

sso never

there, back on topic

[plush carbon]

So true

[high scaffold]

SSO after BS

[plush carbon]

the BS update

[deft lily]

The bullshit update

[valid crypt]

Brainstorm update

[coral shuttle]

this channel always talks about everything BUT the update its fine

[near sable]

does wrath of the gods change boss ui? or just add new content

[misty wren]

hi blat

[lavish otter]

Still funny to me that this was apparently intentional

[halcyon seal]

holy shit its lucille and karma (separate)

[coral shuttle]

hi doob

[hushed hazel]

is blat of live

[lavish otter]

To a degree

[deft lily]

New content

[halcyon seal]

#calamity-addon-talk

but its just new content

[coral shuttle]

18946723546189456

[flat folio]

One day someone will create one of those evil amidias images but it'll accidentally be a slow-acting cognitohazard that takes out all of the people looking forward to the update

[halcyon seal]

to my knowledge it does nothing to existing cal stuff

[near sable]

so 2.1 and wotg won’t break

[deft lily]

shes true

[hushed hazel]

I see now.

[halcyon seal]

technically all images are extremely slow-acting cognitohazards

[flat folio]

It's like how 100% of people that have consumed water have died

[lavish otter]

Can confirm, my brain has rotted about 50%

[terse dew]

wrong

[valid crypt]

Or breathed

[coral shuttle]

well that cant be true

SURELY some unfortunate newborns died before ever getting a sip

[halcyon seal]

its not, because ive never died before

[flat folio]

Well they're not part of the statistics because they never consumed water

[lavish otter]

Also I'm drinking water right now, and I'm still kicking!

[halcyon seal]

they definitely consumed water in the womb

[near sable]

blood has water

[coral shuttle]

oh right

[near sable]

newborn blood

from womb

[coral shuttle]

that doesnt count.,.,.,,

[near sable]

therefore water

[hushed hazel]

waters georg, who drank five hundred liters of water in one hour and then spontaneously combusted, is a statistical outlier and should not be counted

[deft lily]

I should blow up this channel.

[flat folio]

Surprise cookie clicker reference

[deft lily]

💣

[arctic cliff]

Why wait? Why do it accidentally, when I could make one intentionally this very day?

[coral shuttle]

well go on

[coral shuttle]

least conspicuous cognitohazard ever

[azure oak]

any image is a lethal cognitohazard

they'll die eventually

[hasty tangle]

the amidias images are already a cognitohazard

[hushed hazel]

i refuse

[distant raft]

i will survive sorry

[hasty tangle]

have you SEEN this channel?

[hushed hazel]

i simply shall not die

[flat folio]

I lurk just enough to understand the insanity

[lavish otter]

That's it, I'm gonna turn this into a family heirloom that'll last for 200 years

[vivid hemlock]

horrible

[coral shuttle]

those are more than 4 pixels

[cunning sequoia]

at least 7

[deft lily]

096 reference ‼️ ‼️

[wide wadi]

Just cause 3 mentioned

[lean relic]

What is this another varient

[near sable]

i don’t want 2.1 + wotg to crash

after 10 hours of time

[lean relic]

Just wait and you will be fine

[near sable]

reading the changes for 2.1 it doesn’t seem like it’ll break

[near sable]

wotg doesn’t add boss changes i think, i’ve never played wotg i was looking into doing it

[lavish otter]

I feel his pain

[near sable]

i’m schizo

[azure oak]

incredible

[wicked halo]

He's built like a

[thick spire]

What the

[tropic jolt]

nooooooooo 😭

[azure oak]

the brainrot will not be cured until brainstorm actually releases

[flat folio]

Deltarot, calamity edition

[thick spire]

Calarot

[mystic eagle]

Carrot

[thick spire]

Also hey Lucille

[azure oak]

i apologize for having a hand in creating this

[simple merlin]

oh hey it's zuma skull's cousin

[dense sundial]

Fetuses actually drink constantly! They swallow amniotic fluid to stimulate lung and kidney development, work their muscles, and feed their guts

[deft lily]

everytime an amidias image gets posted sso gets delayed by 200 years

[azure oak]

good

[tropic jolt]

sso in 22 seconds

[coral shuttle]

shtup,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.

[dense sundial]

Can’t accept being wrong, huh…

[wicked halo]

I'm reminded of that one image of Galactus eating the Earth.

[lavish otter]

PF-

[azure oak]

is that noxus

[fringe quiver]

yeah

[azure oak]

damn

[lavish otter]

Yeah...sorry to say, but this is the first teaser we have of the official Noxus Calamity

[frigid pebble]

he hungy

[lean relic]

how hungry...

[frigid pebble]

he could eat a god

[vivid hemlock]

we are never getting this update dawg

theyre gonna kill us

every single calamity player is gonna die now

sent to the gallows

[simple merlin]

skill issue

[nocturne crater]

what the shit they renamed this channel

[fathom girder]

It's been renamed for awhile now

[nocturne crater]

i did not notice that sob

[fathom girder]

It was specifically to dissuade the people in here from talking about scal because "it's a spoiler"

[distant raft]

giant clam boss bar

[amber furnace]

it's been renamed for a while now

[distant raft]

they also renamed multiplayer hook ups

[nocturne crater]

yes i was already told

[spark kiln]

guys!!! we need to brainstorm names for the new calamity update!!! any ideas??

brainstorm, heh… i’m thinkin i like that name…

[lyric trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[wicked halo]

I mean considering the Subreddit fans.

Deserved.

[deft lily]

not quite my tempo

[pulsar cobalt]

this is correct

iirc tmodloader guide has a fix for that so ill just use that i think

[pulsar cobalt]

actually can u tell how me how to do this/where i can see it being used

o wait offline

[cobalt wharf]

override void predraw

you can probably see it being used by like most calamity projectiles

then just change the rotation value in the long text string from projectile.rotation to whatever you want

[dull heart]

uhh a lot of things use PreDraw override

[dull heart]

this

I can't help in detail right now tho on my phone

but you can get the texture from Main.TextureAssets.Item[]

and draw it with either Main.EntitySpriteDraw or Main.spriteBatch.Draw (I do not know the difference)

[pulsar cobalt]

also wow that was easy

[cobalt wharf]

i thikn its just

drawing an entity vs drawing a not entity

[rose radish]

guys I just saw the new visuals for a DoG fight, this is so hype!

[potent elbow]

I just took a nap, and I dreamt that an Exo Mech bow was being added and the Atom Splitter would turn into a magic weapon.

[dull hemlock]

have there ever been thoughts of merging with infernum

that would be tuff

[spark kiln]

magic weapon from exo mechs when

[spark kiln]

no

never happening never even considered

[dull hemlock]

and why would that be

[spark kiln]

because they’re different design philosophies

and also infernum was always meant to be a separate thing

[deft lily]

^

[dull hemlock]

fair enough

[spark kiln]

it would also mean that the devs need to test all the new stuff on these completely different boss fights

it’s like having to test double the boss fights

[dull hemlock]

well im sure they have to do that with expert, rev, death then malice as well

[spark kiln]

well they’re specifically reducing the amount of unique difficulties in 2.1

[dull hemlock]

oh no way

[spark kiln]

iirc rev is expert only

death is master only

[misty wren]

yes

expert death and malice arent really tested, its all rev thats tested

[dull hemlock]

i just feel like some aspects of infernum feel like no brainers as part of the main mod

just how well it integrates the lore into the world and the bosses

[spark kiln]

well those are planned for calamity too

[dull hemlock]

thats whats sad

theres so much effort put into infernum

[spark kiln]

it’s not sad if it was always meant to be this way

[misty wren]

calamity doesnt touch expert or master, death will obviously have testing, just not as much as rev
malice is not going to be tested like at all it will be debatably possible and thats it

[spark kiln]

that effort was put into infernum, and not calamity, for a reason

[dull hemlock]

i see what you mean about the different philosophies part

i do wonder though if its simply because they have so much more to do overall within calamity that the bosses arent as fleshed out as in infernum

[spark kiln]

lol nope

[dull hemlock]

infernum is practically all boss behaviour reworks and world gen

[spark kiln]

that’d be fabsols fault

[misty wren]

because fabsol didnt let anybody else touch bosses and by the time he did there wasnt any overlap between the dev teams

[deft lily]

-# very bad world gen imo

[dull hemlock]

i see

[pseudo vector]

because bosses in base calamity weren't allowed to be touched by any other dev than fabsol until like, 6 months ago

[dull hemlock]

i didnt know about the fabsol sich

sheesh

im excited now

[spark kiln]

the profaned temple is cool

[dull hemlock]

i do get that stand point but growth is always good

[dull hemlock]

thats what im thinking about

[pseudo vector]

brainstorm will show the first boss reworks / refreshes with the whole team now able to do stuff with bosses

[spark kiln]

the abyss, cool concept but execution is janky

[dull hemlock]

and the abyss in infernum is nice as well

agreed

[spark kiln]

trying to fight the abyss mini bosses was infuriating

[dull hemlock]

bro

i was just doing that today

running out of breath

[pseudo vector]

namely rev+ brain of cthulhu and the devourer of gods

[dull hemlock]

only for the boss to spawn when im about to die

[misty wren]

sakura garden
shows up literally everywhere it isnt supposed to

[dull hemlock]

PMO

[deft lily]

id be pretty hyped to see a rev+ Cutlist rework

lots of stuff could be done there i think

[dull hemlock]

excited to see all the hard work done with those

cthuhlu looks awesome

[misty wren]

i dont know why the code im pretty sure should work it just keeps generating in places its not supposed to

[dull hemlock]

havent seen enough dog tho

[dull hemlock]

i havent even found my worlds' sakura garden

lol

im like 60 hours in

[dull hemlock]

on top of this i was gonna say the ceaseless void implementation is rlly cool

the profaned temple, guardians and ceaseless void stuff from infernum i would love to see adopted in some shape in the main mod

[deft lily]

i do like infernum's take on cv but i think base cal can do better, especially now.

[dull hemlock]

bringing the lore of the bosses origin or purpose into the world

[dull hemlock]

ur probably right

now that theyre allowed to make boss changes

[hot knot]

especially considering the other two guardians just living in ignorance of you

[dull hemlock]

the next 5+ years are gonna be bountiful

[dull hemlock]

yur

what is the lore behind the other two anyways

signus and weaver

i havent really read up on them

[spark kiln]

no clue atp

[dull hemlock]

isnt it like

they officially want to disconnect their relation as DOGs servants

and make them like seperate or something

[vivid hemlock]

they just arent dog's servants anymore but theres still a couple remnants of that connection

[dull hemlock]

i see

[vivid hemlock]

signus still has that title and the boss theme for all 3 of the rune of kos bosses for example

[misty wren]

signus is the Devil . from The Bible .
storm weaver is glupshitto who keeps eating wyverns and lives in the sky islands

[dull hemlock]

i did not know that

thank uj

thats tuff

[pulsar cobalt]

you should do deals with shady entities they always turn out fine!

[hot knot]

apparently yharim claims devourer and weaver are of the same species

[pulsar cobalt]

yea and draedon says hes wrong

[misty wren]

his ass is wrong !!

[hot knot]

oh

lemme check the lore item again

[vivid hemlock]

weaver and dog probably have similar eating habits tho

[dull hemlock]

is there any official description or context on dragons aerie or is that mainly just a title rn

[wide wadi]

Are you guys talking about lore

[misty wren]

title atm

[dull hemlock]

im so deep now but this conversatiuon is in the wrong place lol

[pulsar cobalt]

sky island

very large sky island thats hidden

anything beyond that is unknown

[dull hemlock]

cool

[pulsar cobalt]

developers have pitched in with what they would personally see from it, but nothings been decided

[dull hemlock]

its so crazy how much depth there is to the story and world of calamity

in a world redigit funds calamity development and makes it a paid official dlc 😓

and we see the end of the story before 2040

[tropic jolt]

sso in 22 years

[native thistle]

Calamity should collab with SSO

[pearl sentinel]

:ozzatron:

@teal bone I'm sorry.

[teal bone]

Nah its here

[pearl sentinel]

thats just not true.

[teal bone]

Well

Um

[misty wren]

sorry sagi

its not here

[wide wadi]

Who deleted the ozzatron emote

Welp going have to replace it with my pfp now

[tropic jolt]

[amber egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1398433336015327335.webp?size=160

thats the code

figure out how to embed it

[amber egret]

see there we go

[pearl sentinel]

bruh

[spark kiln]

is elemental shiv the only elemental weapon that got a rework?

[dusty tinsel]

Ozz is never being added just like SSO is never being released

[molten grove]

yea
ark, saw, and flamethrower already got theirs
rest nyope

[shut ridge]

what if he was doing the troll face

[lyric trellis]

Saw’s rework (becoming a thing and killing blaster)

[pulsar cobalt]

do we know how much daybroken will do against the player?

[full hollow]

okay i saw the website announcement but missed the update part??? i might be stupid

very exciting

[buoyant pulsar]

will dragonfolly be tiershifted in brainstorm

[vivid hemlock]

nope

[potent elbow]

Not happening in Brainstorm or SSO.

[misty wren]

folly shift would need a lot more time than ~2 months

[fallen olive]

the major boss changes are listed in the post, so yeah no retiers lol

[misty wren]

especially when that comes with 2 other bosses being shifted that also need resprites as well as reworks

[fallen olive]

yeah the folly evils 2 swap would probably be the headliner of its own update

at least thats what i think

[grave geyser]

I mean at minimum its 3 boss reworks so I would certainly hope so

[deft lily]

nah just swap them
but dont rebalance or rework anything

(nothing bad would happen im sure of it)

[fallen olive]

fabsol would do this, and just buff their speed and damage 🙂‍↕️

[deft lily]

exactly

[misty wren]

3 reworks 3 loot pool reworks at least 2 resprites

[amber egret]

swap only the health and damage values

nothing else

[grave geyser]

rotten brain but its post ml 🥀

loot pools can feasably just be rebalances

[lyric trellis]

Move folly phm and buff it true

[amber egret]

amalgam is gonna look cool though, no?

[still bluff]

ok

i'll do that rn

[lyric trellis]

Thanks goat

[amber egret]

it'll actually be an amalgam of the brain and folly

[deft lily]

goayted

🙏

[vocal kelp]

It'd be uhhhhhhh the uhhh the update for sure it'd update

[grave geyser]

ok random question that probably doesnt have an answer yet
where would the rage upgrade get moved to
I'm assuming somewhere mid hardmode given rav changes but like
who

[amber egret]

whose

dragonfolly's?

[grave geyser]

yeah

[vocal kelp]

Just give it to like wdj man leviathan who gives a shit

[grave geyser]

ture...

[vocal kelp]

Folly's can be given to evil 2

[deft lily]

i didnt know dragonfolly had a rage upgrade

[amber egret]

why couldnt it be at dragonfolly still

[lyric trellis]

Redbringer Goliath

[deft lily]

tbh

[teal bone]

you obtain it from the Fruit of Rage

[deft lily]

true

[teal bone]

An apple that makes you rather upset

[amber egret]

have the first rage and adren upgrades be phm

theres

[potent elbow]

Crabulon:

[teal bone]

Do not put this on future content doc

[amber egret]

not another one in prehm, right

[vocal kelp]

Remove the rippera 🤐

[amber egret]

thats adren

[vocal kelp]

There is

[misty wren]

its not bad though

[amber egret]

oh

right

gelpack

... move that to ravager. or something.

[grave geyser]

rage is fine adren is the real villain

[fierce hearth]

The retier would be a big undertaking because it'd require not only retiering 3 bosses, demanding major reworks for all of them, but also retiering all of their drops, of which importantly, the rotten brain is a core part of an accessory crafting tree. Meaning more work to sort out how that would change the Amalgamated Brain and Amalgam

[vocal kelp]

Ravager won't be prehardmode that makes no sense also he has his own

[amber egret]

the amalgam is not that hard to rebalance: you just make folly drop something that does similar to brain

[vocal kelp]

Just move ravagers to pbg or Levi, while folly gives their own to evil 2, that's all u have to do

[amber egret]

and make the amalgam an actual amalgamate

[teal bone]

god of sacrifice vs bundle of balloons and bees knees

[misty wren]

rebalancing loot pools is probably one of the easier parts of it realistically

[amber egret]

no ravagers gonna be post ml

[vocal kelp]

You keep one at every stage of the game that way and barely change their obtainment tier

[amber egret]

iirc

[grave geyser]

never forget that weak petrification used to disable double jumps

[amber egret]

the fuck

[vocal kelp]

Yes? Which is why giving ravager anything doesn't make any sense as polter has the other ripper

[lyric trellis]

Viable pick against current Rav tbh

[fierce hearth]

That's only true if you're just cranking the numbers up and down

[amber egret]

okay so like

[fierce hearth]

Which evidently this dev team no longer wants to do

[deft lily]

^

[grave geyser]

realistically the loot pools would be reworked
but its technically not required for things to go smoothly

[vocal kelp]

Byeah it's as easy as giving folly's rage upgrade to evil 2 and moving ravager's to pbg or Levi

[lyric trellis]

Perfect Dark meta on Provi

[grave geyser]

evil2 is weird bc 2 bosses but yeah

[vocal kelp]

They already only drop once so it's not much of an issue

[dusk bronze]

you're not really meant to fight both in one playthrough

[grave geyser]

somehow only the second time a hive mind drop has been prov viable

[deft lily]

could have 2 seperate upgrades that do slightly different things
depending on if you have corruption or crimson