calamity-update-talk

[amber furnace]

I have a question tho, if it wasn't masdeath when it comes to comparing boss difficulties then what difficulty was being measured in the conversation?
also another question, is it possible to be good at terraria without dashes? or wings? under the circumstances based from the difficulty mode being measured in the conversation

[tropic jolt]

[vocal kelp]

The discussion was about mas death

[deft lily]

you have alerted the crow

[vocal kelp]

Also we don't know what you mean By "being good at terraria". Using no wings or dashes will make the game harder but it doesn't change how good you are at the game because those things aren't related

By challenging yourself and learning you become good but the simple fact of having or not having access to a movement option doesn't actually change your skill level

[amber furnace]

ah okay

thanks

[small kayak]

How do you measure skill?

[vocal kelp]

Not really relevant but we guess you could like measure people's prowess while playing

How much they did, how quickly they can achieve certain things

There'll never be a fixed objective answer but you can compare

What level is set as "good" or "bad" will always be sort of arbitrary

You could argue someone who's simply incapable of achieving an objective is bad, but pass that you'd be relying on comparisons

[fathom girder]

even the best players take hundreds of tries on the hardest challenges for this mod

it's indeed hard to gauge skill lul

[carmine lark]

Yeah

My infernum nohits uh

There’s definitely proof of this statement

[fallen olive]

(backreading barry) but i have ideas for CV based on the ideas triangle had been mentioning for distortion

and it would indeed be super kirby pilled (specifically return to dreamland my beloved cause Another Dimension is right there)

[wide nova]

korby the best ever

[deft lily]

hi user

[cold mica]

How is calamity sink update divided into two huh

[carmine lark]

Add Kirby to calamity

[deft lily]

Kirby 🛌

[rose laurel]

What do you MEAN 🛌

Kirby is awesome :(

[arctic cliff]

you may be... terribly uneducated, sire

[fringe quiver]

kirby quite literally 🛌 beecause bros eepy

[rose laurel]

Ok true

Kirby does eep a lot

[tropic jolt]

the eeper

[rose laurel]

But the message implied Kirby was BORING

Which is factually incorrect >:(

[arctic cliff]

is this true @deft lily

[deft lily]

ok being honest ive never played a kirby game. never really interested me.

kirby as a character though i think is fine

[arctic cliff]

take away 5 electrons per atom from umbara

[deft lily]

no

: )

[dense sundial]

b-but sire, the hydrogen-

[arctic cliff]

any overlap will be compensated by the addition of positrons

[dense sundial]

i'd recommend a kirby game but i'm not asking people to give furukawa their money

[frigid pebble]

what did everyone in a 10km radius do bro

[lapis oak]

the only thing I've ever seen of Kirby is a video of a character trying to cook Kirby and somehow turning him between 2D and 3D back and forth

[arctic cliff]

i have a feeling thats from the anime

[dense sundial]

i find that somewhat impressive for some reason

[arctic cliff]

imagine doing that to a terraria character

[gray trench]

Where is perf & hive getting moved to

[tropic jolt]

likely being swapped with dragonfolly eventually

[distant raft]

10km?

i think itd be more 10au

[frigid pebble]

I think its confirmed, not even a "likely"

[tropic jolt]

its 99% confirmed

[deft lily]

Plans could change.

You never know

[fringe quiver]

It's basically confirmed at this point but theoretically could change

In the same way theoretically i could actualy be barack obama

[frigid pebble]

I mean that goes for any confirmation

[tropic jolt]

true!

[deft lily]

@tropic jolt are you still a patreon?

or in patreoncord rather

[tropic jolt]

no but they let me stay

[deft lily]

has that server gotten better.

?

[tropic jolt]

id probably say no?

I dont talk there much

[deft lily]

Noted.

[proven brook]

out of curiostiy, who made/proposed the most recent sprite of devourer of gods?

#mod-announcements message

[fringe quiver]

HeartPlusUp

[deft lily]

Unfortunately she left the team about a month or so ago so don't put your hopes on ever seeing it in game.

[proven brook]

yeah i know

[deft lily]

👍

[proven brook]

im just listening to GP's calcast

they went over how the sprite probably wont be introduced into the game

[deft lily]

I see.

I didn't know there was a new episode.

[proven brook]

came out 4 days ago

[deft lily]

I see.

[barren nacelle]

Isn't this the first episode without

Shayy

[proven brook]

yes

[proven brook]

technically the 3rd as episode 1 and 2 didnt have shayy either

[barren nacelle]

first episode since their addition

[fringe quiver]

can i be on the next calcast

thanks

[boreal edge]

This is @fringe quiver’s fault

[fringe quiver]

Pulse Raptor

[boreal edge]

CongratsIsTrash

[barren nacelle]

Crispy

[still bluff]

SSO September-October

[dusk bronze]

Snailrook

[hard copper]

Bat man

[misty wren]

Sunken Scourge

[lavish otter]

Cetoddle~

[deft lily]

Umbara

[thorny glacier]

Sir Pingas

[grim atlas]

i can't believe this is real

[frigid pebble]

LordofFreakyFlame

[buoyant pulsar]

ogscule only run

[amber egret]

just saw how many items are being resprited reworked or remade

i am going to explode

[dusk bronze]

curse of fabsol

[amber egret]

no like from joy

its gonna be like playing calamity for the first time all over again

WAIT FABSOL BALANCED BOSSES AROUND TESLA?!

DUDE IM BETTER THAN FABSOL I NEVER USE THAT BECAUSE IT BREAKS ON 30 STACK FROM FARGOS

dude this is amazing i love calcastr

[dusk bronze]

this is why every single boss minion is absolute fucking garbage

[amber egret]

dude fabsol wanted me to use it and i said NO this makes me better entirely

[dusk bronze]

you're automatically better than fabsol on account of not being a transphobic colonialist weirdo (i hope)

[amber egret]

okay well yes

but i want my hill to be better than theirs

my dubs are greater than their

doze got mentioned a lot in this

that makes sense; they're very social

[deft lily]

Sometimes I wish Fabsol was erased from everyones mind.

[lavish otter]

Funny enough, he often is for me (at least in the sense that I don't think about him a lot)

[deft lily]

Like cool! he sucks. maybe stop beating the dead horse and give it a break.

[lavish otter]

Outside of ze controversy, he was kind of just...the self-righteous dick that sometimes gave workout advice in the Patreon server in my eyes, so outside of conversations about how development is going now that he isn't in charge, I never felt like anything was missing

[deft lily]

I've said this before but idgaf if he's named dropped when it comes to a development perspective (because good luck enforcing it otherwise)

but.. folks who continue to shit on him when its been months after it happen is getting really exhausting to look at.

almost like the whole point of him leaving was so people will stfu and forget about him 😓

[amber egret]

i keep him in the backburner of my mind because they're a bad rolemodel and a good way of knowing what not to do

[lavish otter]

Yeah, agreed on both of those
He's relavent when it comes to how poorly he managed the mod's development, but most of anything outside of that is kind of just beating a dead horse

[deft lily]

truth nuke.

[amber egret]

beating a... what.....

[fierce hearth]

Are you unfamiliar with the phrase?

[deft lily]

and honestly like, if folks want to continue to beat the dead horse thats fine but...

to me thats basically painting the message that you don't gaf about the people he hurt, since your constantly bringing him up in that context

[fast vessel]

What do you mean is breaks on 30 stack with Fargo’s?

[amber egret]

if i have 30 tesla potions, it doesnt give much

[fast vessel]

I mean, the aura of it still works.

[deft lily]

but of course most people will give me flack for taking this stance...

😓

[fierce hearth]

No I entirely agree. If you just wanna mock him instead of actually respecting the people he hurt what does that really say?

[lavish otter]

Something kind of funny to me is how in this animation, every part of it is animated about as much as it can reasonably be, but the torso is completely static

[deft lily]

exactly

[fringe quiver]

I'm pretty sure the people he's hurt also actively make fun of him

[amber egret]

well yea

[deft lily]

okay?
your point?

[amber egret]

i consider the best way to start recovery is to first undermine it

by like joking abt it

[fringe quiver]

My point is that i think atleast some of them don't really gaf and it's not that deep i don't think
You can just say it's kind of annoying when people keep bringing it up i agree

Ironically by saying that stuff you're liek

[deft lily]

its REALLY annoying, actually

[fringe quiver]

Doing the same behavior you're criticizing

[fierce hearth]

I understand that to an extent but there's a point where it's like, why are we still giving him anything, even derision. Let him disappear.

[deft lily]

^

[fierce hearth]

I would like to forever stop thinking about transphobes

[amber egret]

i put em on the wall of "Bad People"

so i can like

not Be That.

[deft lily]

He made his bed, let him lie in it for gods sake 😓

[amber egret]

i am letting him lie; the beds just gonna go in the corner so idont have to care about it

[fringe quiver]

I can't lie maybe it's also just because i think the fab situation was like all things considered extremely mundane save for like one thing which was actually unexpectedly deranged
Like he was just an asshole with bigotted takes i see this shit everyday

[deft lily]

Right yeah

[fringe quiver]

Like maybe this is a hot take but i don't think anything fab did was actually all that deep except for like, the allowing minors in nsfw servers thing that one was actually like yeah no that's above average levels of fucked up

and even then it's like

just being a fucking dumbass

like dude do something about it

why are they still on the server

A situation i actually try to handle with far more delicacy is something like Shayy per example because that was actually just. genuinely completely disgusting stuff i won't get into it here of course
but fabsol is just like

yep. another wedsneday

it's funny to make fun of him because all things considered he's a good punching bag man i can't lie 😭

I can understand it gets annoying tho

totally respectable take

[deft lily]

As much as i hate fabsol i do sincerely hope he improves his life and moves on.

Can't say I have high hopes he will but I can only hope, given that he had been given FAR too many chances to change prior to him getting booted.

[fringe quiver]

yeah maybe this will be a wake up call for him to grow as a person or something but given his track record

🥶

[deft lily]

yeah
but atp thats not anybody's problem here.
only his own

[fringe quiver]

yep

[amber egret]

the difference between CMT and CUT is drastic

[deft lily]

I don't look in CMT

[amber egret]

here its a tea talk, in CMT theyre outraged at someone playing with 26(?) acc slots and dying

[deft lily]

avoid that shit like the plague

[lavish otter]

While I see your point, something I've seen...a surprising amount of times before, really, is that sometimes being given those chances in the first place is what allows someone to continue falling into their worst habits

[amber egret]

nah its okay

[fringe quiver]

like his crime is just being a douchebag for the most part i don't think anyone really cares that much if you joke about him
Like i dunno if fabsol like, traumatized anyone with his actions he was just kind of a dick and i haven't really seen anyone from the dev team who would've been the most affected by him really share much of a stronger opinion than that

[deft lily]

Yeah... I can't disagree with that.

[fringe quiver]

it can definitely happen

[deft lily]

I would hope he didn't truly traumatize anyone.

[lavish otter]

So my hope is that now that he doesn't really have that anymore, and that he doesn't have the option to mosey around and get back to the status quo without someone putting him back down for it, he'll take a moment to self-reflect

Or hell, that he already has by this point, how long's it been now? A few months?

[fringe quiver]

The truth is

That this is @boreal edge 's fault

[deft lily]

cuz imma be real at the end of the day like you said cheese

he was just a douchebag deranged idiot on the internet lmao

[cunning sequoia]

i agree

[still bluff]

blame shark for everything

[lavish otter]

OH- his last message here was in May...so it's been a while-

[deft lily]

which most of the time those people can just be filtered out and blocked.

[deft lily]

truth be told idgaf if he turns over a new leaf or not. I just think its best if he stays out of the terraria community

yes, going against what i said earlier in this convo

[fringe quiver]

glory to ozzatronia i love my country !

[deft lily]

🪷

[deft lily]

a few months yeah

[dusk bronze]

specifically 7 months and 4 days

[vestal osprey]

Damn

I remember the chaos that was yesterday

*like it was yesterday

[deft lily]

I stayed far away from cal main during the whole thing 💀

[vestal osprey]

It was less of a massive betrayal but more of a straw that broke the camels back

[deft lily]

I imagine so

Wouldn't blame people if said straw made them leave the community tbh.

[vestal osprey]

Surprisingly there was not really any big exodus like there was in 2023

2022

The only big name that left was fabsol

[deft lily]

i more or less meant like

orindinary people

not devs or well known community members

[azure oak]

remember back when

[lavish otter]

It's a little nostalgic, honestly

[azure oak]

it's a year old after all

[amber egret]

was this all that was gonna change

[azure oak]

it was all that was publicly known

[lavish otter]

Yeah, it's just everything the devs shared

Also huh, I forgot that the Gully Olm used to be called that

[vestal osprey]

And people still think there isnt progress being made?!

[deft lily]

90% of the whiners are Mura fans tbh lmao

no offense to him but his fanbase is god awful

[desert garnet]

mainly people outside of discord

[vestal osprey]

Reddit

The calamity reddit

[amber egret]

most youtuber fanbases are considered awful because they use the youtuber as a totem pole and not a person

wheres the really wise cat

[deft lily]

modded terraria fanbases on youtube also mostly contain the people who like to catastrophize and say that the tMod community awful or whatever tf.

[desert garnet]

or devs are bad for nerfing one thing which they didnt used or its op

[amber furnace]

calamity and reddit, thats like worse than hell

[tribal isle]

Play my game

[deft lily]

the only good terraria youtuber is chippy tbh LMAO

all the other ones just have toxic as fuck fan bases

[tribal isle]

Ilikecheese is the best terraria tuber

[amber egret]

is there a dev here named blink

[amber furnace]

the one block challenge people
(theres no people its just 1 guy who made the challenge for the first time)

[amber egret]

i dont know why i just. remembered someone named blink

they had an orange name

[deft lily]

no idea who that is

[amber furnace]

no no no wait youre forgetting wand of sparkling
he's my goat

[tribal isle]

Missing out

[deft lily]

TRUE

[amber egret]

ilikecheese had like

257 subs

and has like 10k now

[amber egret]

i enjoy wand of sparking

[desert garnet]

same

[tribal isle]

I thought he has like 100k

[amber egret]

i think he might be

[deft lily]

yeah bro has 100k 💀

[amber egret]

i saw him when he had 257 subs

and was like "hey this is fun"

[tribal isle]

He’s like the coryxkenshin of terraria

Except not mid

[amber egret]

and then he had 10k

[fringe quiver]

YOU

Xeroc fish

0.00001% spawnrate ...

[azure oak]

instakill fish

[cunning sequoia]

cool guy, rabid fans

[vestal osprey]

Waffle time?

[deft lily]

fair

[native thistle]

My sea is sunken and my calamity is mod

[tribal isle]

What if there was a calamity mod metroidvania and it was like an entirely different game

[fierce hearth]

what if the world was made of pudding

[valid crypt]

What if it was also named like its a prequel when its not

[azure oak]

what if the sunken sea was overhauled

[final tartan]

yo i just watched a video about the sunken sea

been a while since i played anything

whens the release date?

[azure oak]

there is no release date

[amber furnace]

calamity updates dont have release dates anymore

[final tartan]

ohh i see alr thanks

[desert garnet]

another day delayed...

[valid crypt]

Whuh

[fringe quiver]

xeroc fish

[steady sun]

Fish

[tribal isle]

fih

[velvet egret]

Will you nerf the Bladecrest Oathsword

The funny sword that carried prehm

I think its better to gate the sword post skeletron

[desert garnet]

it wont be guaranteed in the chest anymore

[velvet egret]

So it's a demon scythe situation

It feels like it is way too common tho

[desert garnet]

idk if it gets nerfed tho

[velvet egret]

A sword this strong shouldn't just carried prehm so easily

[hard hearth]

what if i want to be carried by that sword

checkmate atheists

[dusk bronze]

it's really not that great

probably second most overrated weapon

[halcyon seal]

bladecrest is like the epitome of good enough

[dull heart]

Epitome is a funny word

Pronounced nothing like the spelling

[dusk bronze]

hello zozer

[deft lily]

this is true

[halcyon seal]

guy who pronounces epipen like epitome

[vivid hemlock]

🥹

[tidal yarrow]

Its not that strong

Especially when you have weapons like the depth crusher at the same tier

[distant raft]

thatd make it very bad

its currently C tier

[cold mica]

Hey about the colored murasama, how do we atain that?

[azure oak]

they're not in game yet

[velvet egret]

Kinda braindead tho

A weapon that plays for u

Hold m1 and just dodge

[distant raft]

if i had to guess it'd be player name kinda like the last prism colours in vanilla

[distant raft]

true! nerf chlorophyte bullets

[cold mica]

It sucks to be naming yourself Ozzatron if your character isn't Tron-yish themed

[hard hearth]

not all weapons need be decided as good or bad by boss kill times

[distant raft]

iirc its not even that good for events

its decent for exploration but there's not much exploration left in prehm

[hard hearth]

not all weapons need be decided as good or bad by boss kill times or events

😁

its like the demon scythe

[distant raft]

okay but demon scythe is very strong

[hard hearth]

you can just rush to hell bringing like 50 blocks with you

50 block bridge

kill some demons with your iron bow

get da sword

bam pow

phm is where you have the most exploration to do

in comparison to hm and pml

[modern grove]

Add bilewater to sunken sea underhaul

[frail owl]

meow

[wooden blade]

is the idea that the timeless shores is a gory and creepy place of the sunken sea still kept?

cuz i like the vibe of it

[azure oak]

there are still dead things there yes

[wooden blade]

awesome

[fringe quiver]

Not really a gory and creepy place necessarily but there are undead things on it yeah

[halcyon seal]

glad to know we have the rotten vale

[fringe quiver]

it's not really like that

it's not a scary gore biome

[wooden blade]

it kinda felt like it was supposed to be at first

[modern grove]

I think timeless shores is more melancholic

[fringe quiver]

^

[modern grove]

Like a reminder of what happened

[fringe quiver]

Nailed it yeah

[halcyon seal]

melancholic's a good word

[wooden blade]

some bilewater situation?

[royal garnet]

Yeah i thought it would be like a scary bog at first

[royal garnet]

More resting grounds

[ivory lark]

hi guys. if you aren't excited for the current update, @pseudo vector can personally attest how we got rid of 2 minutes (real time) in lag from the DoG fight

[fringe quiver]

thanks man

[ivory lark]

literally 2 minutes. i measured it

[vivid hemlock]

amazing

[wooden blade]

that's interesting

[wooden blade]

LMFAOO

[halcyon seal]

i am not excited for the current update. please add Raging Brachydios to rectify this

[wooden blade]

basically dog will be much less laggy then

[ivory lark]

well. the entire game

[pseudo vector]

the whole game is significantly less laggy

[halcyon seal]

what even caused all the lag for dog

[wooden blade]

oh ok so basically the game will be less laggy because of a dog code

[ivory lark]

it wasn't DoG code

[halcyon seal]

it cant just be lasers right bc a lot of bosses have a LOT more projectiles on screen

[modern grove]

I think bilewater is a lot more fucked up than timeless shores

But ig the idea is similar yeah

[fringe quiver]

Bilewater is kinda completely devastated beyond repair

Timeless Shores is like

[wooden blade]

i misread it am sorry

[fringe quiver]

Mostly fine still i think? It's like the very start of the part of Ilmeris that "survived" though so it has like "scars" of the incineration still

Such as yeha

[wooden blade]

but yeah that's fucking cool, i won't have the impression to play at 20fps ig

[fringe quiver]

the undead enemies

Like i think the intent is for it to be a fairly pretty place but a fairly pretty place that's also just kinda sad

[wooden blade]

yeah now that i think abt it bilewater would be more like the brimstone biome

forgor the name

[modern grove]

I do think that timeless shores can be a neat sort of "build up" for crags

[fringe quiver]

Agree actually

[royal garnet]

Yeah the undead part is due to it being the only part of the sunken sea visibly affected by the brimstone magic of the incineration. It's like magical chernobyl

[fringe quiver]

They both dabble in the concept of the basically necromantic nuclear fallout effect

[modern grove]

Glimpse at the brimstone nuclear fallout

[fringe quiver]

(Which need i say is a really cool worldbuilding concept still btw it's metal as hell)

[wooden blade]

so it would feel like a beautiful place to rest in but there are still mutated enemies and undead creatures

[modern grove]

And crags is the epicenter of it

[royal garnet]

Exactly

[fringe quiver]

You get a glimpse of it on timeless shores and then you see the actual full horror of it on brimstone crags

[wooden blade]

isn't this the abyss?

[valid crypt]

Also sorta fits since scal was effectively a reusable nuke

[fringe quiver]

abyss isn't magical chernobyl

it's just chernobyl

or well. the sulphur sea

[royal garnet]

Abyss is just regular pollution

[vivid hemlock]

the abyss is pretty clean since the hungry animals keep eating all of the toxins and chemicals

[valid crypt]

Until draedon happened

[fringe quiver]

also not all creatures in the timeless shores are undead

some of em are just regular animals

[wooden blade]

ok so it means that the crags will be bigger in the fiture then?

[fringe quiver]

yeah

[vivid hemlock]

yeah

[wooden blade]

ok that makes sense

[royal garnet]

Still draedon just made it superpolluted not magic polluted

[fringe quiver]

its getting a major rework much like the amidias biome eventually

[vivid hemlock]

the current crags are just the outskirts of the actual city ruins

[halcyon seal]

i think yharim was justified for dumping all his waste in the sulphurous sea. those guys didnt deserve anything they had

[vivid hemlock]

wtf

[azure oak]

that was draedon

[valid crypt]

Draedon did it

[wooden blade]

so it's not bilewater but more like the conduits or the city of tears

[fringe quiver]

i love dumping car batteries in the ocean said the cryptic inventor

[royal garnet]

Draedon defender propaganda

[halcyon seal]

listen if you just watch the podcast his mindset makes a lot more sense

[vivid hemlock]

[wooden blade]

draedon just did his job lmao

he was programmed to do these things he just started to get a moral code after the exos

[fringe quiver]

his job being dumping car batteries on the ocean

[wooden blade]

basically yeah

[halcyon seal]

i dont think he did?

[fringe quiver]

Also yeah he really didn't

[halcyon seal]

to my knowledge draedon just does whatever the fuck he wants

[fringe quiver]

Bro's just as immoral as ever

[halcyon seal]

i dont know if id even call it immoral as much as, morals simply dont exist

[wooden blade]

really?? i remember in the dialogues he said that he wouldn't hurt the nevironment from now on for his researches

[royal garnet]

Draedon is the absolute extreme of morbid curiosity

[wooden blade]

or was this changed

or i just misread again

[fringe quiver]

He's just driven by the pursuit of research, he won't do evil shit for the sake of it
but if his research needs evil shit to be done and he thinks the consequences are negligible enough where it's worth it then Well

[valid crypt]

Thats cause of science not morality

[fringe quiver]

Yeah he did

[vivid hemlock]

he isnt evil but hes done plenty of fucked up things to further his goals (in this case its helping yharim's crusade for resources)

[fringe quiver]

But this isn't morals

Draedon isn't a comically evil mc johnevil guy

[wooden blade]

yeah i was exaggerating when saying morals

[fringe quiver]

He has no reaosn to destroy the enviroment just Because

[royal garnet]

He wouldn't affect it or interfere due to wanting to see how it deals with stuff itself

[wooden blade]

he's still arobot

[vivid hemlock]

and he was researching nuclear tech around that time ig

[fringe quiver]

Keeping the enviroment stable means he can research it further so yeah

[wooden blade]

"i did a lot of damage to this world so now i want to see how the environment kills itself without me"

[fringe quiver]

He dosen't want to make the local flora and fauna and such go extinct for no reason

[wooden blade]

that makes sense

[royal garnet]

Draedon could clean the sulphuric sea in like a week

[wooden blade]

that's how the plague was created iirc

[fringe quiver]

He don't wanna doe

[royal garnet]

^

[fringe quiver]

Sulphur sea is just draedon's spec evo project at this point

like deadass

[royal garnet]

Exactly

[wooden blade]

there's so many things draedon could fix for this world but wouldn't do it cuz fuck it

[vivid hemlock]

what

[wooden blade]

well plaguebringers, nuclear, radioactive energy

[fringe quiver]

This is a surprisingly accurate way of describing it i never thought about until now

I'm gonna use it more often from now on

[vivid hemlock]

the plague was created because draedon wanted to make more efficient machines by improving upon life rather than just trying to make robots better

[valid crypt]

Plague was made to control organic life

[cunning sequoia]

the plague isnt radioactive i dont think?

[wooden blade]

like it still makes me mad that draedon did all of this bullshit in his life just his encouter must be so fucking mid bro

[fringe quiver]

Plague wasn't really tied to nuclear stuff i don't think

[cunning sequoia]

i mean i guess plague nukes but they dont function like nukes

[royal garnet]

Basically everything. If he set his mind to it he probably could re-sea illmeris

[wooden blade]

like he had more presence than fucking jenna calamity

[fringe quiver]

PBG has nuclear weaponry but i think that's unrelated and just to make it, well

a good bioweapon

[wooden blade]

AND HIS GREATEST INVENTIONS ARE FUCKING DOGSHIT

[cunning sequoia]

its more just explosives than radiation

[wooden blade]

ok ok

[valid crypt]

Thata due to fabsolian boss development not lore reasons

[wooden blade]

yeah i know

[fringe quiver]

Draedon is just fucking around and finding out

By definition

[royal garnet]

Yeah exos will probably get scary eventually

[wooden blade]

still wanted to mention it cuz it makes me mad, their my favorite bosses

[amber furnace]

I didn't know exo mechs were considered garbage, I thought they were fine

[royal garnet]

How

[fringe quiver]

Draedon prime directive: Fuck around and Find Out

[wooden blade]

i liked them personally

[cunning sequoia]

i wonder if exo mechs were made specifically because fab didnt know how to make a more unique boss and just decided to make mechs 2 cause it was easier

[wooden blade]

but like it's the fact that they're supposed to be post yharon

[amber furnace]

dont worry I like ravager and old duke
they're like the most forgotten bosses rn

[amber furnace]

fair

[cunning sequoia]

the boss fight is honestly one of the worst in the mod

they are. hilariously exploitable

[royal garnet]

If not the worst

[distant raft]

something something skip mayhem by holding right

[vivid hemlock]

imagine if they werent just exo versions of the mech trio...

[fathom girder]

No

Dog holds that title

[vivid hemlock]

not for long

(3 years)

[distant raft]

exos are pretty close to current dog

[cunning sequoia]

theyre simpler than the regular mechs 😭

[wooden blade]

well they're from the first update i was hyped af for, they look so cool, their (old) theme was peak, maybe the best theme in the mod imo (and that says a lot), the concept of exos is peak of edginess and aura, and their concept is cool, just too bad their fight is like... fine but then you see wrath of the machines and infernum and you're like "dude we could've had so much more"

also the fact that they're supposed to be on scal tier this makes me mad

[cunning sequoia]

why does that make you mad

[distant raft]

i do look forward to the exo rework dropping Eventually™

[hollow harness]

do you think its like how exxo avalon adds oblivion and back in the days oblivion was pretty much mech bosses 2

[cunning sequoia]

considering his obsession with avalon

[distant raft]

calamity added oblivion too :cl

[cunning sequoia]

honestly yeah

[fringe quiver]

I assume the fact htey're the same tier as scal but super underwhelming or smth like that

[cunning sequoia]

mmm makes sense

[fringe quiver]

did you guys know exxo avalon had a enemy that was just called Turtle

[cunning sequoia]

whar...

[fringe quiver]

it also had Matter Man

[hollow harness]

his obsession with avalon in calamity was pretty much relevant considering many item names were references to exxo avalon

[wooden blade]

imagine a boss that's teased for years through lore and structures, saying that he was responsible of all of this, so you think "dude this guy must be a menace" then it's announced that he's on scal tier in terms of strength, you're even more hyped. Then it releases, once the hype galsses are gone, you notice that he's not a challenge and doesn't represent what draedon is supposed to be in terms of fight

[hollow harness]

phantoplasm, elemental excalibur, etc

[cunning sequoia]

yeah that makes sense

[hollow harness]

sword of blah as well

[wooden blade]

like if anything pbg was more fun and challenging as a draedon invention (even tho it's not entirely his) than the mechs

[hollow harness]

Megaman boss

[wooden blade]

so yeah i hope the rework fix this bs when it comes

(nightmare fabrications is a banger just wanted to mention it, even though it's scrapped and incomplete)

[fringe quiver]

My favorite enemy. Turtle

[wooden blade]

tutrl

[fringe quiver]

This is a post moon lord enemy by the way

[distant raft]

i love the part where its critter sized

[cunning sequoia]

thats me

[distant raft]

so you cant even tell if its an enemy at first glance

wait dont the vanilla 1.4 turtles have larger sprites

[azure oak]

a version of the exos that aren't derivative of the mech bosses would be cool but it's understandable why they don't wanna just throw all of the work that's been put into the sprites away

[wooden blade]

when a normal animal is stronger than the clone of a witch

[hollow harness]

yea they do

[fringe quiver]

Matter man <3

[hollow harness]

like significantly more detailed and larger

[cunning sequoia]

hi

[wooden blade]

i prefer that the exos stay far away from the og mechs imo, making them simple "upgrades" to them removes that idea of "perfection" draedon had imo

holy shit

[fringe quiver]

truly this was a fantastic mod for fabsol to completely obsesss over for like 10 years

[hollow harness]

it looks like mr trance from the mr trance series

[fringe quiver]

it added such great additions like Matter Man and Turtle

[cunning sequoia]

good enough for me

[fringe quiver]

LMAO

[vivid hemlock]

horrible

garbo you will be hunted

by plastic bags

[fringe quiver]

post yharim turtle

[cunning sequoia]

try me bitch

[vivid hemlock]

post yharim squid

[fringe quiver]

post moon lord turtle, post yharim squid

the unholy duo

[hollow harness]

it was either thorium or exxo avalon (even though thorium was probably a much better choice lmao)

[hollow harness]

well at least when calamity released there were more content mods of course

[wooden blade]

i forgot that fab inspired himself from exxo avalon

[cunning sequoia]

my beloved

[vivid hemlock]

no.....

[wooden blade]

corn

[hollow harness]

isn't evil corn tremor though

[azure oak]

a biomechanical superweapon has less health than extra large squid

[cunning sequoia]

yes

[wooden blade]

lmao

[cunning sequoia]

yes it is

[soft horizon]

Will the sunken sea overhaul contain wet

[ivory lark]

maybe they're kinda brainstorming about it

[soft horizon]

im so excited

[stuck kite]

a brainstorming session

if you will

[deft lily]

Erm acxtually water is not wet-

[stuck kite]

tell that to the jury

[deft lily]

😨

[soft horizon]

But it gets stuff wet

And the water will be around stuff

Henceforth wet

[dull heart]

water is wet if there's more than one water molecule clearly

[distant agate]

it depends on if you think "wet" is a modifier that gets applied to solid material or if "wet" is just a feeling

if its a modifier then water isnt wet, if wet is just the feeling of something wet then water is wet

[valid crypt]

I follow this logic

[amber egret]

water is a liquid that applies the debuff wet

this is obvious to anyone who understands debuffs

[distant agate]

debuff?

[valid crypt]

One water is not wet but two water appy debuff to eachother

[amber egret]

debuff

[distant agate]

i see it as a buff

but you do you

[amber egret]

i mean

objectively being soaked is a poor thing for most things

but for others its great

[distant agate]

what can i say

i just enjoy being damp

[soft horizon]

What's bad about being moist

[neat dock]

You tak more damage from electricity debuffs

[dense sundial]

i'm personally confident that fab made exos as one of his many attempts to add oblivion outright

remember the older alpha/omega concept for boss rush or whatever it was. remember master-rev prime. consider the name exo mechs

[modern grove]

Wasn't he going to turn ares into oblivion if it wasn't for the artists speaking up

Or well not turn

But it's what ares could have been

[tribal isle]

elder scrolls 6 heartlands

[lyric trellis]

I believe so yes

2 Skeletron Primes 💔

[hardy gulch]

i realised that the debuff immunities of the Shield of the High Ruler line up with those of the Ankh Shield
perhaps that can be the Ankh Shield upgrade???

[azure oak]

isn't rampart getting ankh shield?

[amber furnace]

critical

[lapis oak]

no where you heard that from

[azure oak]

idk maybe my brain's inventing things lemme check

[dull heart]

It was an idea

Has not been done yet

[dull heart]

yes it's meant to be functionally an ankh upgrade

that's the idea

[keen zodiac]

atleast Occult Skull Crown getting a indirect buff with ankh shield being removed from the asgardian line

[spark kiln]

what’s the osc buff

[hasty tangle]

they just said it

with asgardian not having ankh shield, so youre not immune to the debuffs

[tribal isle]

if ankh shield ceases to exist from it does that mean i have to waste one more slot

[hasty tangle]

i mean, ankh shield on its own is kind of a waste of a slot to begin with

[tribal isle]

the shield isnt

[hasty tangle]

except maybe in early hard mode

[halcyon seal]

Ankh shield is basically a tortoise shell sidegrade

[lapis oak]

OSC components need to not be glorpshit 1% drop

especially with the direction of boss summon items changes Cal's going to do

[high scaffold]

I got a theory

Silksong Sea of Sorrow DLC

SSoS DLC

SSO

Calamity is collabing with silksong

[wide wadi]

Now we know why they take so long to release sso

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-oh-damn-oh-daymn-daym-damn-gif-2649905700736798302

[high scaffold]

It even has the word sea in it

[spark kiln]

they didn’t say that

sorry i don’t memorise the effects of every accessory

[high scaffold]

And sorrow in sea of sorrow is the sorrow of poor calamity fans waiting for SSO

[spark kiln]

everyone uses osc for the adrenaline buff i forgot debuffs were a thing

[high scaffold]

"everyone uses osc" blud Im still yet to see a single person actualy use it in actual playtrough

[pearl sentinel]

no but yharim needs to be like minos prime and senator armstrong you dont get it

[tropic jolt]

senator armstrong with a sword

[deft lily]

Icl I don't think the passive aggressiveness is really necessary, especially since he was just trying to explain something to you

[spark kiln]

i didn’t say everyone uses osc tho

[deft lily]

...

😭

[spark kiln]

are we serious

[deft lily]

You're the one who contradicted yourself...

[spark kiln]

🥹

read the next 4 words

[deft lily]

Not sure how that changes what you said at all but whatever ig.

[spark kiln]

“everyone uses x for y” implicitly states that you are talking about the subset of people who uses x in the first place

[amber egret]

is there any sources on SSO adding an evil fucking chimpanzee who flies at you at mach shit and tears you apart

[rare tinsel]

yeah

[amber egret]

oh awesome

[rare tinsel]

if the game detects alchNPC or calamity overhaul it spawns

[amber egret]

alchNPC full or alchNPC lite

[distant raft]

either

[amber egret]

whats wrong with lite

[rare tinsel]

👎

[deft lily]

Valid.

[rare tinsel]

displeases the chimp

[amber egret]

hmm

[distant raft]

it has hallowed armour set bonus potion and rod of harmony hotkey potion and black belt potion and tabi potion and dryad's blessing potion

[amber egret]

oh

[spark kiln]

just don’t use them

[amber egret]

i just dont use those

is it okay then

[fringe quiver]

...

@ember flare @vivid hemlock do you remember.

[distant raft]

plugging your ears and going "lalalalalala" doesnt make the problems go away

[amber egret]

wait this was real

[fringe quiver]

also what the fuck

who is that

who is melon gaming

[amber egret]

i mean it kinda does

[fringe quiver]

i meant to tag melongun

[spark kiln]

What

[fringe quiver]

@valid crypt

[spark kiln]

my world is my oyster bro

[distant raft]

alchnpc lite is still very much broken

[dense sundial]

for you specifically, sure, but no one else

[spark kiln]

if i don’t use the potions they can’t hurt me

[amber egret]

i've closed my eyes and said "lalalalala" and world hunger was solved for one picosecond

[vivid hemlock]

what

[fringe quiver]

do you remember vanillin .

[distant raft]

i hope they do that

[spark kiln]

that’s not a reason to not use the mod though

[amber egret]

the idea came to me in a very tired thought

[vivid hemlock]

i have no idea what this is

[spark kiln]

like if you want alchnpc for the potion npcs you can still use it for just that

it’s not intrusive

[distant raft]

why not use prisma's then

[spark kiln]

what’s that

[amber egret]

cant be bothered

[deft lily]

hot take: people should play they game how they wanna play it and not shove their playstyle down other peoples throats ‼️ ‼️

[dense sundial]

hey What do you mean it has rod of harmony hotkey potion

What

[amber egret]

i have alch npc downloaded and not prismas

[distant raft]

if you dont play my way then youre subhuman sorry those are the rules

[amber egret]

• prismas is probably balanced and i want free money

[deft lily]

explode violently

[amber egret]

i actually want 9999 platinum coins on spawn that'd be nice

[spark kiln]

crawltepede ai potion when?

[amber egret]

potion that makes you into DoG (you turn into a solar pillar enemy)

[sly delta]

bat ai bullet

[dense sundial]

me immediately bursting into rage when i step outside (i saw a bird)

[valid crypt]

What

[valid crypt]

WHATSGAYW

[amber egret]

?

[spark kiln]

they’re flabbergasted

[fringe quiver]

do you remember melon

the monkey

[sly delta]

the evil chimpanzee strikes again

[wise bolt]

i think this guy likes birds

[vivid hemlock]

some birds eat worms

[wise bolt]

😞

[boreal edge]

Uh oh

[wise bolt]

holy hell

[amber furnace]

can you beat masdeath with true melee no wings and no boots

[hushed hazel]

no

next question

[amber furnace]

son 😭😭

[royal garnet]

daughter 😭 😭

[wise bolt]

calamity olaythrugh no accessory no armor no buff only wand of sparking

[amber furnace]

peak mentioned

[wise bolt]

❗️

[dusty tinsel]

Calamity overhaul

[royal garnet]

Chat if calamity overhaul "dev" removed the stolen shit I'd personally still want their body rotting on the highway

Putting dev in quotations because whoever they are they barely developed anything

[royal garnet]

I'm exaggerating but still

I would not play the mod under any circumstance

[flat folio]

Christ people go crazy over this mod
I'm one of the people whose code was stolen (emphasis on was, I haven't seen any evidence of my shtuff still being in there without my consent) and I care about it far less than many people in this server do

[hushed hazel]

they made a shitty mod they're not a supervillain

[royal garnet]

Alr alr mb

[hushed hazel]

mentioning you use cal overhaul in here is like

[dense sundial]

They’re not halfway to a regular villain even including the part where CO corrupts your files for disabling it

[hushed hazel]

number 1 way to get publicly executed by the people

[dense sundial]

People just like overblowing things

[royal garnet]

(In my defense when people say they want them nuked that gets ignored)

[hushed hazel]

someone asks a question about calhaul content and five people simultaneously order them to remove it without even explaining why unless the person asks why

[flat folio]

I kinda get why on some level. I know extremely well the exasperation of having to explain the same things to different people who are ignorant about smth for the 597th time
But also it's not those people's fault for Not Knowing

[hasty tangle]

its also immensely frustrating watching it continue to grow in popularity

or when people ignore the explanation given to them and play with it anyway

[royal garnet]

I feel like that's in part due to it being one of the only updating addons

[wide nova]

lucille on calmain

[royal garnet]

Its biggest competitor is ccr

[flat folio]

Extremely rare

[hushed hazel]

this changes everything

[hollow harness]

[sly delta]

i play calamity overhaul because i want to overhaul my files

[versed tendon]

i'll bifriend this chimpanze

[sly delta]

what if its too evil

[versed tendon]

even better

[sly delta]

its not just an evil chimpanzee its an evil fucking chimpanzee

[versed tendon]

everything can be or fucking or not fucking

[sly delta]

the evil fucking chimpanzee is en route to your location as we speak

[versed tendon]

isn't that

[dense sundial]

What is Xernowhatever doing with your house if he’s already killed you

[rare tinsel]

where is he supposed to live

[sly delta]

hes already in ur house thats why he can show up so quickly

[pearl sentinel]

holy peak

[deft lily]

yeah im ngl that sort of groupthink is what gives this server bad rep 😓

like cool! cal overhaul sucks!

doesn't mean it needs to be shat on every time its brought up and dogpile on people who play with it

like ffs its a mod for whats (relatively) meant to be a singleplayer experience

[amber egret]

i think shitting on it is kinda like the overall joke

explaining the problem to its extent every single time gets very tedious

[deft lily]

let me ask you this though:

if its done constantly to the point where it isn't funny and is just... straight up annoying. is it realy a joke at that point

[amber egret]

yes !

the joke isnt funny

but its still a piece with a punchline

its basically dessicated atp

[deft lily]

even if explaining it over and over gets tedious just... like..

refer said users to the pinned message.

and leave it at that

[versed tendon]

i want squidward to be secret superboss of SSO2

[amber egret]

every single time?

and presuming they read?

and presuming they care to click that?

and presuming the person explaining wants to go to pins every time and grab it?

[deft lily]

i mean, no one is forcing you to explain anything to them last I checked.

[desert garnet]

from what i saw, many like to just say, "dont play this mod" or "uninstall this imediately"

[amber egret]

that is the objectively correct option, but it is a hassle compared to "calverhaul sucks"

[desert garnet]

instead of just saying the consequences which might occur by playing with the mod

[amber egret]

i mean the thing is that no one really questions further

and if they do, someone will often either say

its just bad, dont play it - okay! uninstalls
it uses stolen content - okay! uninstalls

like theres no reason to have further point when the first point is simply enough to deter most who wander there

like, theres three scenarios i see here

scenario a: they saw it from a video, and asked because bugs abound
someone sees cal overhaul and says "hey, dont use that"
they ask why and the response is "its a bad mod"
95% of the time, they just uninstall it and go on with their day unaffected

scenario b: same as a, but the response is "it uses stolen content/is buggy/etc/whatever"
results near identically to scenario a

scenario c: they ask further
THEN someone links the pinned
they go "oh okay" and uninstall it

[deft lily]

Im ngl i think you're reading too much into this.

[amber egret]

theres not reason to supply further information and brainpower to the process when A and B just solve it

[deft lily]

esp when you're reminded: this is a discord server at the end of the day.

[amber egret]

so why are you caring about the problem in the first place

if its a discord server, you could just ignore the messages

[deft lily]

i dont lmao
i'm just giving my two cents.

[amber egret]

?

this reads as exhaustion and mild frustration

[deft lily]

that wasn't typed out of exhaustion and frustration. it was more or less something to think about.

i truly dc what people talk about here because uhh
truth be told
idgaf about what goes on in cmt (assuming thats where most of the cal overhaul hate bandwagon resides)

[amber egret]

its where most people are

naturally it has the most hate

[deft lily]

ehh
ive seen this channel pretty active time to time

usually when someone has a braindead take

[amber egret]

most =/= all

[deft lily]

fair

[mystic eagle]

mammoth...

[amber egret]

most here are often more generalist and understand that channels arent 100% for their topics (while they still are)

and for people who hold interest for the footure

[deft lily]

right, yeah.

[versed tendon]

He uses the

[deft lily]

you have alerted the mammoth.

[versed tendon]

the mammoth is awakening...

[amber egret]

what is this and why does it have a gigantic seam down its middle

[vivid hemlock]

mega mammoth

[lyric trellis]

Demon from hell

[versed tendon]

it's other dimension mammoths trying to come out fom him

[pulsar cobalt]

still confused how this was meant to be something called

"mega mammoth dragon"

[versed tendon]

btw his tighy hand is valamitas

[dense sundial]

What was the spriter of this thing thinking when they made it

Like what is it supposed to resemble

[amber egret]

thats a mammoth???

[fathom girder]

sunken sea enemy

[amber egret]

it looks more like an orca than a mammoth

also the perspective is kinda wack on the hand troll

[fathom girder]

we're getting that in sso

devs confirmed it awhile ago

[dusk bronze]

ziggums moment

[vivid hemlock]

ziggums...

archaic era

[lyric trellis]

Ziggums sprites ❤️

[royal garnet]

I think it's a boa constrictor digesting a mammoth

[lapis oak]

Ziggums? yeah, goat

[keen zodiac]

astral infection in hell

[minor pelican]

Wtf is this

[vivid hemlock]

mega mammoth dragon

[arctic cliff]

the worst thing about this is that i think this is a good character design. i love my weird alien moth """""""""mammoth""""""""" with big arms

it def could do with a overhaul byeah

i like him

[strong isle]

Character design needs a character to begin with

But taking into account what character there is, it's fairly decent

[deft lily]

hes true yknow

[halcyon seal]

SUPREME SEA SLUG CALAMITAS

[arctic cliff]

Monster design, I meant

[frigid pebble]

calamity character/monster design in general is like my favourite part of the game

cough cough ares

[spark kiln]

i guess the design isn’t bad but the sprite makes it so unreadable

[strong isle]

That's kinda the same

Character aspects have equivalents in creatures

While for characters you check backstory, personality, preferences and so on, for creatures you check concept, habitat, diet, rarity, intended vibe, where it is in the grounded-mystical spectrum... stuff like that

For example, the alien vibe of Mega Mammoth Dragon does a fairly good job at portraying its mystical nature and distance from the present day

[wooden blade]

I've been trying to understand what am looking at since the day i've seen ig

Only thing i was able to notice was the arms

[fathom girder]

it's a mollusk that overindulged on steroids

flesh shouldn't be peaking outta the shell like that...

[native thistle]

Who is it going in my favorite channel, calamity-spoiler-talk

[dense sundial]

Your banner is peak btw

[native thistle]

I was addressed

[dusty hound]

I read on the subreddit that apparently there's changes coming to master+death/revengeance difficulty? is there any concrete info about what/when those changes are?

[native thistle]

Good channel name change btw, hopefully no one gonna come here after beating moon lord lol

[dense sundial]

There will just be one Calamity difficulty for each vanilla difficulty (besides Classic)

[native thistle]

This

[fathom girder]

they're comin' along with SSO iirc

[dense sundial]

Rev is in Expert, Death in Master, Malice in Legendary

[fathom girder]

can't wait for malice dog to fuck my shit up

[distant raft]

malice is just the name for legendary death

[fathom girder]

yes

er

maybe

[distant raft]

it bears no actual resemblance to the malice of previous versions

[tropic jolt]

malice dog will still fuck your shit up

[fathom girder]

won't malice have some extra things over dmode

I forgor

[tropic jolt]

malice dog does

[fathom girder]

gotchu

[tropic jolt]

am I allowed to say that

idk

[fathom girder]

I know doze gassed it up pretty crazy

oh no doze talked about that awhile ago

just don't get into details

[lapis oak]

predictive chomp

that's 1% of Malice DoG power

[distant raft]

yeah malice is predictive which is fun

[fathom girder]

that's gonna be terrifying

[tropic jolt]

infernum dogs big brother

[distant raft]

i wonder how fucked up malice dog is gonna be in distortion update

[fathom girder]

infernum dog but circle strat will get you annihilated

[lapis oak]

chomp prediction

[dusty hound]

awesome, thank you

after expert revengeance I tried expert death mode but at plantera now and it's been a cakewalk, so much so I thought it was bugged. Just gonna keep going and maybe the future malice mode will be harder

[frigid pebble]

Im sure you know this but an addon called Infernum exists that adds a difficulty above death with rather polished, flashy bosses. Definitely recommend.

[dusty hound]

yes! that's next for me after death mode

[frigid pebble]

Master death mode is actually harder than infernum imo, just because infernum tends to have more fair attack patterns. Prob not easier than expert death which ur doing tho.

[lapis oak]

@pulsar cobalt fixed your tupid gif since I have aseprite now

no I'm not adding names

[dense sundial]

There are a scarce few Infernum bosses that are easier than the base ones

Namely Crab (only compared to Death though) and Prime, off the top of my head

[frigid pebble]

Prime is so fucking easy I was appalled at what they did to my boy 😭

he used to be harder right?

[cobalt wharf]

back in the old days prime was just not ever supposed to be hard

he used to always be the easiest mech no matter what

[dense sundial]

Yeah it used to have a brief revive phase where the arms came back and attacked insanely fast

It got removed because it was just too insane

The whole revive thing didn’t fit Prime anyway imo

[frigid pebble]

Yeah but I definitely think they overnerfed him, most of the fight he is limbless and half as threatening. Not to mention the low health pool

The revive thing was weird tho

[fathom girder]

that guts sword wtf

[burnt iron]

Meet potential update

[dense sundial]

I’m tired, boss

[lapis oak]

ok

[soft horizon]

Audrey looks sick

So does aqua and pokerface

[amber furnace]

nothing beat dragon slayer

I would pick the one below dragon slayer if it wasn't for it

[tropic jolt]

I like them all

my favorite is probably the gun-sama but its just a concept art

[teal bone]

:)

[barren hollow]

Is that going to work like how the last prism and other items work where you have to have the dev name or is there a way to toggle/change it?

[lapis oak]

where's u knife

[teal bone]

:)

[teal bone]

It is somewhere

[barren hollow]

I'll be honest despite liking the design. I won't name myself koolaid if it's the former over the latter

[rare tinsel]

Some of these are really impressive

[barren hollow]

That star one with no name I want so bad, lol

Or I guess constellation

[rare tinsel]

I wonder who made them?

[lapis oak]

curious

[lapis oak]

special station

[barren hollow]

Sweet.

[boreal edge]

Such anger

Explode

[fathom girder]

I like doze's

I assume his is the stratus themed one on the left

[teal bone]

I like Sagi's

[fathom girder]

Who's that

[teal bone]

Nah thats a contest one

[fathom girder]

Oh I see

[lapis oak]

😠

[lavish otter]

This is neat, but I wonder why the contest winners are placed so randomly

[lapis oak]

alphabetical

[lavish otter]

Ooohhhh

[dull heart]

i'll like mine too once i have an idea

[fathom girder]

Why not make jt DoG themed?

[dull heart]

no

[dusk bronze]

make it a worm boss

[ivory lark]

speaking of DoG themes

[coarse anchor]

@sleek pawn yoiu a loser

@sleek pawn yoiu a loser

@sleek pawn yoiu a loser

@sleek pawn yoiu a loser

@sleek pawn yoiu a loser

[gray trench]

Sigh

[dull heart]

sigh

[pseudo vector]

sigh

[gray trench]

@fringe quiver i don't think this warrant pinging modmail but

[dull heart]

cut is off their game today tbh

[fringe quiver]

[fathom girder]

Love people like this, really brings everyone together to beat them into submission

[vivid hemlock]

[fringe quiver]

Dude i didn't even get to do anything someone else already timed them out

😭

[fathom girder]

That emote rules lmao

[fringe quiver]

im not beating the grandma allegations im sluggish and frail

[gray trench]

Probably automod

[summer shore]

Speaking of?

[gray trench]

[fathom girder]

Make it... everything...

[summer shore]

Make it you

[boreal edge]

This is @fringe quiver's fault

[summer shore]

[fathom girder]

Hey tony, make him a cheese pizza with everything

[fringe quiver]

Pulse Raptor

[vivid hemlock]

horrible

[ivory lark]

you'll see

[polar tide]

dog themes....

[dull heart]

good luck

clock is ticking

[fringe quiver]

we're happy to announce we're gigving devourer a phase 3 theme for his 3rd phase

[ivory lark]

we made a devouring theme

[fringe quiver]

Scourge of the Universe, Universal Collapse, and now Shit's Fucked

[fathom girder]

Malice exclusive

It's a harmony of the first two themes pitch shifted up by 1.5 and sped up by 2x

[wicked temple]

this is a calamity

[white vigil]

An entire song for when you get eaten alive

[ivory lark]

not a song sadly

[fringe quiver]

This is why the song is called that

this shit is truly fucked

[lavish otter]

Ohh, like a visual thing?

[ivory lark]

yeah

you could say that

[vivid hemlock]

dog is now green for an amazing reason

[snow moth]

the devouring theme is purple

[serene parrot]

its part of the new whatsapp crossover

[fathom girder]

It means he can be placed there

[ivory lark]

we have red theme, blue theme, purple theme

soon all the most popular colors will have themes

we're currently in talks about a yellow theme

[polar tide]

YES

YES

YES

PLASE

ill do anythign

[pseudo vector]

bro likes yellow

[dusk bronze]

piss filter

[polar tide]

haha yeah... yellow.... is what i like

[boreal edge]

The seven themes

[fathom girder]

Mgs filter theme

[boreal edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/999532041987178557/1250893087274963024/attachment.gif

[fringe quiver]

I think a green theme would be good

Calamity needs a bit more green

[dusk bronze]

what does theme mean in this context