calamity-update-talk

[halcyon seal]

I think the awkward movement is what makes them fun personally

[summer shore]

Since when is exo box getting retirted

whar

[lapis oak]

;( mean

[silk schooner]

i also know i have "a skill issue"

[halcyon seal]

The fromsoft method

[dull heart]

it's way, way too strong atm

[thick coyote]

isnt it being made an endgame item

[dull heart]

yes

[mystic eagle]

It's been planned for a couple of months

[lapis oak]

Not yet

[summer shore]

Fucked up

[lapis oak]

But should be in SSO

[summer shore]

That's fucked up

[dull heart]

I'll go code the retier actually

[lapis oak]

It makes Scal free too strong

[dull heart]

Exo box is just absurdly strong

[thick coyote]

it is too good

[summer shore]

I mean I know

[lapis oak]

Alt you have to play the game now

[cunning sequoia]

i mean its literally just a free win item

[summer shore]

But still fucked uo

[dull heart]

like, potentially the most valuable item in the mod

[lapis oak]

No more Touhou

[halcyon seal]

I wonder what the singular strongest item in the game is

[fringe quiver]

Rather than trying literally any other mod ever i will instead play calamity but i can only use the Classy Cane on eternity death master glupshit poop difficulty

[cunning sequoia]

doesnt even take up an accessory slot

[summer shore]

I don't even use exo box but like

[halcyon seal]

Like factoring in progression

[cunning sequoia]

its the best mount in the game at that point and its not even remotely close

[summer shore]

Box named exo
Not exo tier

That's mindboggling

[dull heart]

exo box basically frees up 1-3 accesory slots AND provides better movement and infinite flight

[halcyon seal]

Me personally I’m going Featherfall Potion

[cunning sequoia]

call it chair of dron

[lapis oak]

You get Exo Tank

[sinful portal]

oh wow that does sound broken

[lapis oak]

Worth

[pulsar cobalt]

itd probably be an item like frog leg or absorber

[summer shore]

Not the problem

[pulsar cobalt]

something that can fit for like a third of the game

[dull heart]

since exo box lets you drop wings, dash, knockback immunity

[summer shore]

If it's exo themed it should be post exo if it's not jyou should rename it to like yharim throne ot some shit

[lapis oak]

Explode u

[dull heart]

And all movement accesories

[cunning sequoia]

asgard's valor or elysian aegis i think

[strong hollow]

did you really beat terraria if it wasnt legendary gfb ftw death infernum master masochist eternity quadruple health no hit no wasd no keyboard no mouse no moniter?

[cunning sequoia]

i think elysian aegis is the better one though

[fringe quiver]

In vanilla shield of cthulhu is the only dash you get until post plantera

[dull heart]

It's planned to be from draetalk

[summer shore]

It's like the fucking post ml plague weapons

[dull heart]

post scal

[lapis oak]

You talk to Draedon to get it post Scal

[hasty hawk]

did y'all scrap the enchantments since im gone or smth?

[thick coyote]

i feel the need to defend myself here. The only reason I play only calamity is beucase im not actually that big a fan of terraria gameplay. My number 1 reason for playing calamity is the lore, so playing other mods dont make sense when you factor in that the only reason i continue to play this mod is the story

[pulsar cobalt]

if we said what line of items is the most overpowered then yea id agree with you

[halcyon seal]

Wait no monitor terraria sounds kinda fucking crazy right

Exclusively audio

[fringe quiver]

But then in calamity you get 5 mornillion dash items that have their own like sidegrade benefits and shit

[cunning sequoia]

i think elysian aegis itself is so centralizing for post ml that it works

[dull heart]

I don't know what is happening with them, I just think they haven't been merged yet due to other stuff happening in dev rn

[lapis oak]

WHAT

[dull heart]

but they're not scrapped

[fringe quiver]

Not a complaint its just interesting

[cunning sequoia]

i'd say old deific amulet was even more centralizing but thats been changed since then

[rose laurel]

*New

[strong hollow]

i dont play any other mods than cal and fargos either
i probably should but i dont really want to play something if i cant ego off the feat

[summer shore]

Ohkk

Make sense ig

[halcyon seal]

I remember when that shit was post wof

[thick coyote]

Staple 👏 Items 👏 have 👏 a 👏 place 👏 in 👏 game 👏 design

[halcyon seal]

I miss you every day old amulet

[lapis oak]

U don't even know? Tupid

[modern grove]

play spirit mod

both reforged and classic

[cunning sequoia]

i didnt say they dont

[rose laurel]

Not when it overshadows every other dash in the game

[halcyon seal]

They do but also rams are directly competing with two other dash types which a lot of people just disregard because rams exist

[thick coyote]

I was agreeing with you

[cunning sequoia]

oh ok

[fringe quiver]

Like in calamity dashes are kind of like wings
You need One one of them at Some point so the game gives you several options to pick from with their own sidegrade benefits

[summer shore]

Yea my days of nolifing this channel are over I've moved to greener pastures

🌹

[cunning sequoia]

i still think it shouldnt completely overshadow the other dashes

[hasty hawk]

got an email saying they're temporarily invalid since im not a dev anymore

[strong hollow]

and ones 3 times better

[thick coyote]

maybe!

[fringe quiver]

Like all things considered that is a departure from vanillq but i think its good

[rose laurel]

Bro it's not a maybe

[dull heart]

odd??

[rose laurel]

They are blatantly more powerful than every other dash

[dull heart]

either way the branch still exists

[thick coyote]

that maybe was "i havent thought about it enough to be sure" so i'll halfway agree

not a "you might be wrong"

[dull heart]

they'll be dealt with once we have time to deal with them

[lapis oak]

Nah Ram is overpowered

[dull heart]

a lots been going on

[rose laurel]

Anyways

[lapis oak]

It's just get out of jail free card

[dull heart]

rams nerf in 2.1 is great

[fringe quiver]

It allows for you to take dashes into account more with boss design just like how vanilla bosses are designed around wings after a ertain point

[thick coyote]

as someone bad at the game i like rams

[hasty hawk]

The enchants are literally done, could be better visualy and have balance tweaks yes, but they are literally ready

[dull heart]

there's a difference between staple and overcentralizing

[strong hollow]

btw whos in charge of the dev team rn
dont really play the game or talk here often

[dull heart]

Ozzatron owns the mod

[dull heart]

Nerfed rams can still be a staple but are no longer overcentralizing

[amber furnace]

is it possible to win death mode without dashes or wings

[hasty hawk]

Staple is smth like wings or dashes
overcentralizing is smth like Coin of Deceit and its upgrades for rogue

[amber furnace]

just pure strength

[strong hollow]

👍

[amber furnace]

and defense I guess

[lapis oak]

Ye

[fringe quiver]

Ideally much like wings there should be equally viable options for dashes for diff points of progression

[lapis oak]

Not recommend

[amber furnace]

how then

[fringe quiver]

Yeah this

[strong hollow]

its possible to beat death mode limbless

[neat dock]

I see that calclone was spawned at day 👀

[lapis oak]

Idk just watch youtube videos of people doing it

[lyric trellis]

It’s a sandbox game there’s plenty you can do

[lapis oak]

There should be plenty

[pulsar cobalt]

yea calclone doesnt have night requirement

been in changelogs since uhhhhh too long

[hasty hawk]

i remember when coin of deceit line got nerfed and then it felt so ass it had to be mostly reverted

[neat dock]

so i assume time enrage is moved to border

[pulsar cobalt]

if the enrage still exists maybe

[lapis oak]

It's been in changelogs for 500 years dummy

[fringe quiver]

Id say dashes arent much of a staple in vanilla, theyre just a stronf option

In calamity though yeah

[lyric trellis]

Slowly but surely becoming less of a twins clone..

[dull heart]

Coin might not be overcentralizing idk

[fringe quiver]

Theyre basically like wings

[cunning sequoia]

since when...

[dull heart]

Overcentralizing is an issue when it has competition

[dull heart]

Nothing really competes with coin for the niche it has

[neat dock]

i apologize for not memorizing nearly 800 different changelogs

[fringe quiver]

A overarching category of accessory that you need Some of in your loadout at some point

[lapis oak]

As u should

[thick coyote]

dumb idea that popped in my head

[hasty hawk]

coin has no competition due to cost reduction as well as giving dmg and crit

[lapis oak]

Get a bigger brain like me or something

😊

[hardy gulch]

will calclone and her siblings have yummy sprites now

[dull heart]

there's no competition in the cost reduction in general

[thick coyote]

what id ramming was a heavy DR to contact instead of outright immunity

[dull heart]

is the main thing

[lapis oak]

Man

[dull heart]

It doesn't need such a nerf

[lyric trellis]

Terrible

[lapis oak]

Back when ramming through still make you take debuff

[pulsar cobalt]

rams should be like solar armour ram

[lapis oak]

So you couldn't just ram ram ram ram

[dull heart]

All the rams needed was to have the active frames limited some and to not also be doing other jobs

[thick coyote]

okay cool it was a bad idea

[hasty hawk]

cost reduction atm is a huge issue for rogue as it not only makes coin be a must use but also makes rogue balancing way harder

[thick coyote]

lmao

[hardy gulch]

ram dashes when they have a 25 percent chance to cause you to take contact damage anyway

[halcyon seal]

I wonder how good astral bulwark is gonna be

[hasty hawk]

rogue rework was going to kill cost reduction and replace it with smth else that was never agreed upon

[thick coyote]

i mean thats not what i said

[pseudo vector]

you only take contact damage from ram dashes if you're reckless

[dull heart]

It may not exist anymore

[halcyon seal]

Oh

[dull heart]

Sunny has left the team and was the only one pushing for it

[lapis oak]

Oh

[halcyon seal]

Well, ankh shield’s still pretty good anyways

[lapis oak]

I see

[thick coyote]

i meant like "what if instead of immune you took like 80% less damage from the hit instead" but apparently thats a bad idea so XD

[lapis oak]

Any possible future for Ankh line then?

[strong hollow]

yharim tomorrow

[dull heart]

Rip adrenaline

[hardy gulch]

fair enuff

[neat dock]

also has it been 7 years since I used that weapon or was that already in changelogs or was that also a vengeful sun rework

[thick coyote]

yes that was part of the idea

[dull heart]

Unknown

[hardy gulch]

sorry no adrenaline mode if you plan to build around ramdashing

[lapis oak]

Or was that

[strong hollow]

what if instead of immune it makes you take double damage corrupts your pc files and sends a ballistic missile to your location?

[dull heart]

Did you know! There's actually a limit on how much you can ram before they stop giving iframes

[neat dock]

👀

[hasty hawk]

them getting the Final Dawn treatment i see

[pulsar cobalt]

wait did u give rams fucking ssbu ledge grab iframes

[dull heart]

You can only have ram/parry iframes applied 3 times per second

I think

[pulsar cobalt]

oh

u mean ramming multiple times in one dash

[dull heart]

no I mean in general

[pulsar cobalt]

oh right yea

[dull heart]

With enough cooldown reduction you can get high ruler to hit fast enough you don't get iframes

[thick coyote]

i think this might explain some of the frustration i was having on inf old duke

😭

[pulsar cobalt]

cuz u could ram twice in one dash and ram once in another in under a second

[strong hollow]

wings, boots, and dash global deletion soon

[dull heart]

Yes

[halcyon seal]

We will be deleting all accessories to encourage build diversity

[pulsar cobalt]

isnt the default dash cd like around a second anyway? so this would mostly affect worms and pauldron/ambergris abuse

[dull heart]

no

Dash CD is 30 frames

But CD only starts once dash ends

[pulsar cobalt]

half a second sure,,,

[tribal isle]

Inf old duke on rogue was the bane of my existence genuinely worst boss in the game I just killed him with cheat sheet to get the fuckass scythe

[dull heart]

so yes this only effects worms and high ruler

[thick coyote]

i just skipped it

[strong hollow]

lmao, i mean he just sucks ass anyways, design wise

[thick coyote]

cool tutorial boss that has stricter timing than the bosses hes a tutorial for

[pulsar cobalt]

anyways yea uhh doze u did make sure it says theres a ram limit in the tooltip right?

[tribal isle]

Dog was atleast fun but old duke is just hot steaming garbage

[strong hollow]

you kind of need to fight od on mage

[pulsar cobalt]

dont want people going in bug reports asking why they cant ram thru dog or whatever,,,,

[strong hollow]

he's not that bad tho just annoying

[dull heart]

This isn't new

This has always existed

[pulsar cobalt]

oh

[hardy gulch]

this is how i felt about inf DoG and i felt bad about it

[dull heart]

It's part of vanilla SoC / ram code

[thick coyote]

huh

[tribal isle]

I spent like 300 attempts on my first playthrough on inf dog and like 3 attempts max on every other playthrough against inf dog

[pseudo vector]

infernum dog is 95% the learning process

5% is actually executing it

[thick coyote]

the high attept counts on that boss confuse me, it took me like 80. Then again I play with tank builds

[hardy gulch]

thank god DoG will be made better in SSO (yharon will remain the same gameplay wise, he is like vanilla Golem in that his only changes from a major update were a resprite)

[pseudo vector]

it took me 580 attempts to beat infernum dog

imma keep it a buck i've never felt so hopeless while learning a boss

[silk schooner]

isnt infernum dog just- instakills?

[thick coyote]

no

[strong hollow]

💀

[thick coyote]

you can survive with a tank build

[dull heart]

try malice dog

[strong hollow]

you can get hit like once

sometimes

[lapis oak]

you actually gonna kill CD irl

[pseudo vector]

he 2 shots

[lapis oak]

😨

[thick coyote]

infernum dog killed me in 3 hits with my build, and his non contact damage attacks do basically no damage to a tank build

it makes him much easier

[dull heart]

malice dog is so funny

[pseudo vector]

basically still zero room for error in the learning process

[thick coyote]

when you're allowed tgo fuck up

[silk schooner]

ah- yeah i have so much of a skill issue i cant defeat infernum crab

so- i just stopped

[hardy gulch]

attempt numbers over 500 for bosses of higher difficulties just feel so wrong especially if theyre required for boss progression

[dull heart]

fun fact: ftw dog has a desperation phase

[lusty stirrup]

took me 700+ attempts on legendary exos and i even had to cheat with thanatos….

[tribal isle]

me during inf old duke genuinely worst boss to ever conceive terraria

[lusty stirrup]

[grave geyser]

infernum reference

[pulsar cobalt]

oh gosh what did you do

[hardy gulch]

excuse me???
ive literally never known this existed

[dull heart]

:)

[strong hollow]

a nice teleport system for in between phases makes inf dog pre-hm difficulty

[dull heart]

2.1

[thick coyote]

the devs really ARE out of ideas

[pseudo vector]

our new death dog is hard but its honestly a lot of fun

[hardy gulch]

SSO DoG i actually will look into just to be real with you

[grave geyser]

every desp phase is now legally an infernum reference btw
even mutants

[pseudo vector]

he's way more aggressive but not something like infernum dog where he's on your ass and kills you in 3 seconds

[lusty stirrup]

i wish we could hear scourge of the universe for longer with DoG

[dull heart]

I'm surprised nobody here commented on vengeful sun staff at all

[grave geyser]

nobody cares about it I fear

[lapis oak]

it's fine

[dull heart]

it cares about them

[grave geyser]

(I care about it but also I have nothing to go off of so)

[cunning sequoia]

calamity fans hate weapons

unless its murasama

then its the most important thing in the mod

[lapis oak]

didn't expect it to has homing that's the only thought I have for it

[dull heart]

to be fair you don't get to see much of it since it's a support

[hardy gulch]

tangible improvements to a boss that i never liked fighting (i hear mention of hyperdeath rift beams which causes my brain to explode from wanting to try it out)

[dull heart]

you barely get to see it's gimmick

[grave geyser]

oh wait was it in the video

[lapis oak]

lmao

[dull heart]

yes

[pseudo vector]

i'll never understand people's obsession with murasama

its just a true melee sword that looks kinda cool

[thick coyote]

im worried about SSO DoG with how the community has been reacting to changes recently

Worried it will get flamed for not being the full thing despite multiple warnings that it wont be

😭

[strong hollow]

murasama sucks ass

[lyric trellis]

It’s true

[dull heart]

it'll be fine because it's a good fight

[pseudo vector]

some people just have no joy or whimsy in their hearts lol

[hardy gulch]

people love madly swinging massive red blades that cause immense damage to everything around them, dont judge

[grave geyser]

anyway I will just say that I think reverting the expert mode drops just feels like revertinf vanilla changes for the sake of reverting vanilla changes
would the change have been made if it was this team from the onset? clearly not, but it doesnt feel worth reverting

[dull heart]

This is provable by nobody wanting to add auric baseball bat

[strong hollow]

whats sso

[grave geyser]

2.1

sunken sea overhaul

[strong hollow]

hmm

[dull heart]

It means there's less code to maintain and sort through

[hardy gulch]

auric baseball hat will be a rare drop from Yharim the Golden Heretic in Calamity Mod 3.51 the End of the Tyrant Update

[pulsar cobalt]

there should be a multiplayer based weapon where a rogue player throws baseballs and a melee player uses a baseball bat

[cunning sequoia]

youtube

[thick coyote]

also hi crit its been awhile

[cunning sequoia]

i think its just genuinely youtubers hyping it up

[pseudo vector]

a vast majority of the player base doesn't play on classic mode as well
we know that basically everyone plays on either expert, rev or death so

[grave geyser]

fair ig

Ig just as someone whos first run of cal was on classic it kinda just feels like a middle finger to people worse at the game

[lapis oak]

one thing I gotta say about Vengeful Sun is that the visual kinda looks jarring the more you summon it

is this intentional

[thick coyote]

dont think you were active last time i chatted

[dull heart]

It becomes fine when you get more slots

[lyric trellis]

Considering you can switch difficulties on a whim now I don’t see a reason to keep it (not that it needed to exist in the first place)

[grave geyser]

I took like a 3 month break from the mod

[thick coyote]

same lole

[dull heart]

like cmon bring back the whimsy

[pseudo vector]

difficulty switching is so much easier now which is awesome

[dull heart]

vengeful sun is eclipse themed now

[pseudo vector]

that and just the simplification of cal difficulties in the update

[dull heart]

The more you summon it the darker the sun gets and it gets a more pronounced outline

[strong hollow]

if you switch difficulties you die irl
fun fact

[grave geyser]

who the hell said no to this idea

[lapis oak]

ahh

[dull heart]

nobody expressed any interest in it

[hardy gulch]

i prefer picking master mode tier difficulties because im addicted to challenging myself for no conceivable reason

[tribal isle]

imagine if we make the exo box like a big sneaker like a yeezy or a jordan

[lyric trellis]

Wulfrum Screwdriver but peak

[lapis oak]

so it's just unfortunate that it looks like that at 3 slots

[pulsar cobalt]

wulfrum screwdriver 2

[thick coyote]

i was june user in case you arent aware

[dull heart]

Yes

[grave geyser]

I am

[rose laurel]

It happened because we wanted Exeprt to get the items back because it was a needlessly obtuse change

[thick coyote]

oh ok

XD

[rose laurel]

It accomplished pretty much nothing and only took away from Expert

[lapis oak]

would be nice to get a resprite tho, that fits the requirements more

don't think the current sprite is doing justice with the outline

[silk schooner]

take an early game shortsword

and make it.. bigger

[hardy gulch]

auric slammer can only be allowed as long as it becomes a weapon with a similar means of use as the Coldheart Icicle

[grave geyser]

I dont think taking away from expert is much of a bad thing tbh
missing out on content because of your difficulty choice is never particularly fun

[dull heart]

I think I just need to adjust the outline intensity

[grave geyser]

but I do understand it being redundant with easier difficulty swapping

[lapis oak]

👍

we'll see how it goes

[lyric trellis]

Rainbow item rarity >

[pseudo vector]

i'm hoping that people enjoy the dog rework and the brain rework

[lapis oak]

Rainbow Item Rarity is awesome

[dull heart]

How it looks once totality hits

[grave geyser]

wait did moving them to classic mode get rid of this nvm I'm on board again

side note but will this affect the items that were previously calamities expert accessories

[lapis oak]

HOLY FUCK

[thick coyote]

in most casses i agree but classic mode in terraria very much feels like beating it is like "You have completed the tutorial" so i actually dont mind it in terraria

[lapis oak]

that is very cool

awesome keep cooking

shouldn't the surrounding lines the thicker tho?

[lyric trellis]

Most annoying and unfunny people of all time about to make “500th DoG reworks” jokes

[dull heart]

And right before totality

[pseudo vector]

even though i'm pretty sure this is the most substantial work dog has had done to it in literal years

[dull heart]

Yes I fixed that

[pulsar cobalt]

yes it did and yes

[dull heart]

This is old screenshot

[cunning sequoia]

thats cool

almost like some sort of

solar

eclips

e

[lyric trellis]

Most should be the same I think

[vivid hemlock]

dark sun

[lapis oak]

nice, have them be the same pixel size as Terraria would be awesome

[lyric trellis]

And Weaver gaining Arc Flash Ring

[pulsar cobalt]

yea some of them will just have

new items instead

[pseudo vector]

i've always been of the opinion that classic mode is rather dull and you're kind of taking away from your experience by playing on classic

[pulsar cobalt]

but i think the majority of cal bosses have guranteed acc drops that can be just turned into expert items

[dull heart]

Yes

[gloomy grove]

honestly i think they should shift names around

[lyric trellis]

Yes cause that’s what they originally were for 90% of them

[dull heart]

Warbanner has become guards expert for example

[grave geyser]

I can see that once someone is more experienced but idk
maybe its just bc I started before expert mode existed

[pseudo vector]

unironically one of my favourite items of this update genuinely

[thick coyote]

as someone with siblings who grew up with terraria, classic is for people who dont play games normally or for actual babies

and terraria is appealing to both those crowds

so thats its place in the game

[dull heart]

Classic used to be hard

Back in the day

[thick coyote]

no we used ot suck

[dull heart]

No

[cunning sequoia]

i never actually played classic

[dull heart]

I literally played 1.0.5 like 3 months ago

[cunning sequoia]

i jumped straight to expert

[dull heart]

It was hard

[thick coyote]

was it hard or was it tediious

[pseudo vector]

fair observation

[grave geyser]

weapons and armor got massive powercreep as updates went on

[dull heart]

it was hard

[grave geyser]

items were much weaker on average

[spark kiln]

only #ogs remember when expert didn’t exist

[dull heart]

there's been massive powercreep yeah

[pulsar cobalt]

i too jumped straight to expert since i heard from my brother the bosses were a lot more engaging on them

[thick coyote]

thats fair then

[hard copper]

Its 100% now?

[dull heart]

a huge change is adding natural life regen

[cunning sequoia]

old people*

[pulsar cobalt]

however i have played a bit of classic for testing purposes

[dull heart]

1.0.5 didn't have that

And it made every enemy a threat

[cunning sequoia]

youre not og bro youre just senile.......

[lyric trellis]

Same thing

[lapis oak]

I played Cal on Classic first, then Rev

[spark kiln]

i’m 18 broski

[thick coyote]

slime when its 1 damage adds to death by thousand cuts 😎

[lapis oak]

because I didn't know Rev was the intended experience

[dull heart]

You'd take a lot more than 1 damage usually

until late game

[thick coyote]

ye now that you mention it the item stats and enemy stats were just different

[dull heart]

the enemy stats were similar but gear was way harder to get and lower stats

Y'know how wooden arrows are made in batches of 25 now?

It was 3 back then lol

Ammo scarcity actually felt like a real thing

[spark kiln]

terra blade requiring 3 broken hero swords

[thick coyote]

honestly better names for the modes these days might be something like Relaxed and Intense

[lapis oak]

classic

[spark kiln]

0.00001% drop from swamp things

or whatever they dropped from

[thorny fjord]

Biome key molds

Peak design

[thick coyote]

this is the terraria boomers uphill both ways moment

[spark kiln]

real gamers remember duplicating items

[dull heart]

Biome chests are actually great

[main falcon]

Calclone video too YouTube channel

[grave geyser]

biome chests were great in like

1.2

[main falcon]

To promotion the plushies there

[grave geyser]

when they were clearly some of the best weapons in the game

[spark kiln]

vampire knives were the shit

[grave geyser]

now they're barely above average if that

[main falcon]

Abandoned calamity YouTube

[grave geyser]

and rarely worth the luck / grind

[spark kiln]

realest ones remember reds wings

[main falcon]

I mean they basically are kinda like the hardmode equivalent to the biome swords

Just dispersed thru the classes

[lyric trellis]

1.2 sdmg

[spark kiln]

not at all

[spark kiln]

not a thing

[grave geyser]

it definitely was

[main falcon]

Its not like all biome swords are good

[lyric trellis]

Yes it was

[spark kiln]

wait nvm

[grave geyser]

it went unused but it was a thing

[lyric trellis]

Running the infinite flight red wings with it

[spark kiln]

i never got the sdmg in 1.2 bro what

i only got reds wings

fuck this shit

why did nobody give me sdmg

[dull heart]

1.2 gravity globe though

[grave geyser]

so itd be
ds pouch
fungal clump
rotten brain
bloody worm tooth
mana polarizer
soul of cryogen
as pouch
flame licked
void of calamity
interstellar stompers
levithan ambergris
toxic heart
bloodflare core
hide
warbanner
stem cells
blazing core
arc flash
evolution
spec veil I think?
affliction
od scales
neb core
gift
draedons heart
calamity

man I forgot how many of these were just total dogshit
and then the ones that arnt are just
the best items
gg ig

[spark kiln]

what is this list supposed to be

[grave geyser]

expert items from cal bosses

[spark kiln]

why do i need to hide

[grave geyser]

hide of astrum deus

[spark kiln]

yea that’s what i woulda did

[lyric trellis]

Class specific expert items 💔

Last part is so true though

Some are cool but so many suck

[coral shuttle]

well atleast its exactly like vanilla expert items

shield of cthulhu to the spore sac

[pulsar cobalt]

wouldnt it be blood pact not bloodflare core since its locked to post provi and rav isnt (for now)

[hushed hazel]

I can see why they call this update Catastrophe 2.1

[lyric trellis]

Love DoG dropping Sporesac 2

[pulsar cobalt]

anyways yea that list seems right

[grave geyser]

core was the expert item in the past

[lyric trellis]

Oh right the post-provi expert drop for the post-golem boss

[grave geyser]

honestly the part that bothers me more is how many of these get upgraded
giving mollusk husks to the guide so he can taunt the amalgam you cant get

[hard copper]

Rav is getting moved to post provi eventually anyway

[lyric trellis]

This is because BWS and Amal Brain need to explode

[grave geyser]

true....

[pulsar cobalt]

was it always dropped post prov? i wasnt there when expert items actually existed

[grave geyser]

yes

[pulsar cobalt]

[grave geyser]

rav just didnt have an expert item until post provi

[pulsar cobalt]

i would ask who designed it like this but

_ _

i have a suspicion.

[lyric trellis]

Excited for it in 2029

[hard copper]

true

[tropic jolt]

august 12th 2036

[lapis oak]

August... 12th...

[hot pebble]

That new spoiler is truly Calamitous!

[wide wadi]

We need another catalog for New Year’s Day

Whats everyone else think about that

[dull heart]

It is blood pact now

Even if it wasn't before

[grave geyser]

chalice expert locked 🥀

[dull heart]

Ok but that means chalice gets rainbow

[grave geyser]

ok but chalice doesnt really fit the vibe of rainbow

[dull heart]

okay but rainbow

[lyric trellis]

Idk the current ones kinda fits the rainbow

Vibrant colors

[mossy sapphire]

"hey guys merry christmas we're going to make the cal clone fight much better visually" and then the bosses themselves are still just those old ass eye sprites

[deft lily]

Okay.

[dull heart]

feel free to asset submission sprites of your own

[deft lily]

Hi doze user.

[dull heart]

Our spriters do not have time to change the clone sprites now

They've got other things they're doing and we're not reworking clone yet

[hasty hawk]

the fish mines

[pseudo vector]

sorry for not having a new sprite prepped for a teaser i guess?

this rework is visuals + the arena but the ai will change at a later date when we do her actual full rework

[olive kernel]

eye see

[solar sandal]

The new update will come with the calamitas clone making eye puns instead of the normal lines

[wooden blade]

the resprite isn't planned for the sso overhaul iirc, atleast not for part 1

neither is the full rework

[lapis oak]

ye if she ever getting resprite it will come with the overhaul

[wooden blade]

but the idea of the arena changing depending on the phase is really cool, and the visuals are interesting too to say the least

[deft lily]

^

Makes the fight far more interesting.

[wooden blade]

it approaches her more to calamitas than just the twins which i like

[lapis oak]

would like to see the charging visual for dash attack be more noticeable tho

[deft lily]

I think it's anti-intellectual to dismiss those changes just because she isn't getting resprited atm.

[spark kiln]

wish more was done with the arena

[wooden blade]

but yeah i can't judge an incomplete rework

cuz it's what it is

[spark kiln]

mf talking bout anti intellectual

[wooden blade]

for the resprite though i'd find it cool if it was just scal but kinda melting lol

as if it was an incomplete clone of scale decaying due to its imperfection

[mossy sapphire]

true
i mean it doesnt even look like calamitas anymore

[vivid hemlock]

shes a perfect biological clone draedon just didnt clone scal's magic

[mossy sapphire]

bc its an old sprite

sonething like how infernum does it (yes i know this isnt addon talk) would be nice

[deft lily]

If you don't like what I said then maybe you should leave the convo. Thanks.

[vivid hemlock]

yeah her redesign is going to be human

[spark kiln]

tuff

[wooden blade]

huh, i always interpreted it as an imperfect clone cuz of how hard it is to recreate calamitas in the first place

[spark kiln]

that would be really lame tho

[wooden blade]

my ego is hurt

[spark kiln]

the lack of magic is compensated by mechanical parts

that is a much more interesting idea

[wooden blade]

but yeah i thought abt it quicklu

[lapis oak]

Tringle did expressed of wanting to make Clone controlling a big ass mech

[wooden blade]

yeah

some kind of eva

[lapis oak]

Clone not Scal fucking eating brain

can't multitask

[wooden blade]

wonder if the idea is still in though

[gloomy grove]

boring imo, you can do much more with artificial life made to mimick something that isnt just thing but melting/slightly disfigured/warped

[vivid hemlock]

triangle had a calclone idea of replacing the brothers with a mech that would actually work with her

[spark kiln]

my disappointment would be immeasurable if it was just scals sprite with a shader on it to make it look like it’s melting or something

[lapis oak]

definitely not happening

so much can be done for Clone than just that

[wooden blade]

what i meant with her resprite is that it's calamitas with some parts missing, the mlting wouldn't just be an effect, since you could see her skull and limbs getting separated from her skin

[tropic jolt]

calamitas clone will use a mecha suit with twelve moon lord lasers

[wooden blade]

kinda like some body horror thing but considering this seems to be a horror done to perforators i don't think it'd be interesting

[lapis oak]

Ozz hire this person

Calamity is saved

[deft lily]

Dread.

[spark kiln]

impossible to achieve well with a sprite of that scale

[dusty tinsel]

Cal clone will be xeroc

Obviously

[wooden blade]

yeah true..

[spark kiln]

and would still be quite lame

[wooden blade]

btw isn't clone supposed to be phm? like i imagine a boss pre wall of flesh having a fuckass mecha with her to kill you

[spark kiln]

they should just stick with the idea of it being very mechanical

[wooden blade]

that's some dr eggman shit

[wooden blade]

i think it's better

[spark kiln]

hope clone isn’t in pre hm

it’s good where it is

[wooden blade]

yeaaaah but considering she's supposed to swap with slime god..

[dusty tinsel]

The thing is slime god isn't and that's why the swap would happen

[wooden blade]

and i never seen sg as a phm boss considering how important he is

[dusty tinsel]

If it does

[wooden blade]

idk

[spark kiln]

questionable

[wooden blade]

basically yeah

[dusty tinsel]

Queen slime being stronger than sg is just weird lol

Damn vanilla

[wooden blade]

i find weird too how in the lore qs is supposed to be slime god but enraged and wants to kill you so bad

feels like a lame excuse to not put sg in hardmode

[deft lily]

Grrr I hate Re-Logic grrrr.

👿

[wooden blade]

we kill you with knives

[deft lily]

Plot twist: you tripped.

[wooden blade]

plot twist: i'm a zombie so i can't get killed by a stab

[dusty tinsel]

Plot twist: nah I'd win

[deft lily]

true...

[wooden blade]

plot twist: you don't because i said so

[dusty tinsel]

Plot twist: I have a ban button

[deft lily]

You should ban me.

/j

[dusty tinsel]

Okay

[lapis oak]

SG and Clone retier are whatever

[wooden blade]

plot twist: ............ i don't wanna get banned so i'll stay here (hacks your ban button)

[lapis oak]

I'm more interested in their future concepts and gameplays

that's more important

[dusty tinsel]

I am going to retire kiri to banned

[lapis oak]

😠

[dull heart]

this reminds me

I should make entropy's vigil use the new attack visuals

[lapis oak]

omg yes

[dull heart]

I forgot

[wooden blade]

oh yeah

[lapis oak]

Doze's gonna be fucking... rework the entire Clone drops at this point

[dull heart]

🐸or

[wooden blade]

that would look cool

[dull heart]

no

[lapis oak]

the third set rework has come to Calamity Mod SSO

[wooden blade]

SSO part 3 confirmed?????

[dull heart]

I'd only touch entropy's vigil and maybe havoc breath

[dull heart]

that was Stratus

[boreal edge]

Sacrifice Kiri to get it done faster

[dull heart]

I did bloodflare and dog

[deft lily]

-# feed him... to the.. star god...?

[dull heart]

I'd go do visuals on entropy vigil right now except I wanna go play chaos zero nightmare

[lyric trellis]

Bloodflare is ancient history atp wow

[deft lily]

👉 👈

[lapis oak]

change Lashes of Chaos and Oblivion visuals too if you gonna do that

they use the same projectiles with Clone I think

[dull heart]

no

[lapis oak]

;(

[dull heart]

Specifically vigil bc it actually spawns the bosses mini

although maybe it would be easy to change them all idk

[lapis oak]

this shark is so mean when are we gonna chop it up and cook it

[wooden blade]

btw if the idea of calclone getting a mech instead of her brothers ends up being true

[dull heart]

if it's easy enough i might

[wooden blade]

what would the vigil spawn

a mini mech with a tiny calclone in it?

[dull heart]

the mech would be the brothers iirc

like

brothers still exist

[wooden blade]

oh ok some gogeta shit

they fuse to make a mech

[dense sundial]

Voltron did that first…

[wooden blade]

I WAS SEARCHING FOR A RANDOM ANIME MECHA WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT

(was thinking of goldorak but i forgot the name)

[lapis oak]

Japanese Spider Man has Mecha combination

[wooden blade]

old japan had a huge obsession with putting mechas everywhere so it's understandable

[dull heart]

mechs are cool

[wooden blade]

they are

[lapis oak]

I think Japanese Spider Man Mecha is what born Super Sentai and Gundam shit

it's so fucking old

[pseudo vector]

mechs are awesome

[wooden blade]

oh shit fr?

[lapis oak]

1970 😭

[modern grove]

I always read kiri as kirk and I think it's pretty funny

[wooden blade]

the movie is this old???

[pseudo vector]

i say as i have a distinct distaste for a certain trio of mechs

[wooden blade]

not a surprise atp lmao

[lavish otter]

I'm not sure if you'd still care about this, but since no one seemed to answer, what they were moving away from was specifically bosses forcing you to make your own arena

[lapis oak]

fucked up

[tropic jolt]

[lapis oak]

Clone new visuals give me that Retro game vibe idk why

[pseudo vector]

i did some of the new sound effects for cal clone

her new firing sounds were made by me

[wooden blade]

retro rain

[lapis oak]

are you working on Brother roar and Clone death sound?

[pseudo vector]

i should probably make smth for those now that you mention it

[deft lily]

[wooden blade]

awesome

[lapis oak]

ya especially the roar sound being used so much it's nice to have something unique

[pseudo vector]

thank you for bringing it up actually LOL

i didn't think of that initially

[deft lily]

New cal clone roar is just CD saying "roar" soulessly.

[wooden blade]

considering she makes the background pitch black she should do a roaring that you'd hear during the night, kind of like a roaring night

[pseudo vector]

like a WHAT

[tropic jolt]

my vessel kinda soul-less

[wooden blade]

gaster am watching yo stream why you tryin not to laugh bro that's disrespectful as shit bruh

[hot pebble]

is dis deltarune talk?

[pseudo vector]

no lol

[deft lily]

What in the calamity mod talk is a deltarune.

🤔

[tropic jolt]

🤔

[hot knot]

is this a calamity an update or a talk

[deft lily]

I've never play it

[hot knot]

🤔

[lone echo]

??? was this released

[deft lily]

Yesterday.

Check #spoilers channel

[tropic jolt]

this ones sanity must've already crumbled

[lone echo]

oh

[tropic jolt]

amidias brought us jolly christmas spoilers and changelogs

[lapis oak]

thank you amiimdas

[deft lily]

Mailing you a pipe bomb Cyver.

/j

[tropic jolt]

/serious

💥

[deft lily]

👀

[spring aspen]

I wonder how important the Kos bosses will be in SSO
right now they feel rather skippable since their only important drops are weapons that can be gotten from one of them or just Polter

[lapis oak]

not important at all

[grave geyser]

Even if they magically have gear importance there will still be zero reason to fight them on tier unless polter gets some insane buffs

[wooden blade]

it released tomorrow

[solar sandal]

I always fight them right after Providence
I go weaver, signus, go to Polterghast to get Halley’s inferno, use it to melt void

[wooden blade]

who?

[lapis oak]

I'm wastching CalCast right now why can a shark speak English

[deft lily]

In a recent playthrough, I did
Signus > Storm Weaver > Ceasless Void.

[grave geyser]

Weaver signus cv

[spring aspen]

Storm Weaver, Signus, Ceaseless Void

[wooden blade]

oh ok

well they won't get their rework in the sso that's for sure

[boreal pewter]

Shark having a comprehendible mic quality is still surprising to me

[wooden blade]

maybe in the distorton update at the very least

[deft lily]

Give Signus a gun 🙏

Generic AK 47

[grave geyser]

Their root problems rn is that a: they give jack shit and b: just go kill polterghast he’s one of the easiest bosses in the game and he literally gives you a free arena

[wooden blade]

considering a trading system is planned, i wanna see signus trading something so you give him a gun then basically shoots at you like a maniac

[modern grove]

I hope you can trade pearls with signus

[wooden blade]

holy shit you wren't kidding

there's a shark talking in the podcast

[modern grove]

Signus land me some flashbangs this is base Miros bird we're talking about

[tropic jolt]

calcast is cinema

[wooden blade]

miros prime

prepare thouself or smth idk am bored

[lyric trellis]

Too true

[versed heart]

It's beginning to look a lot like Krismas

[pseudo vector]

that's legit the first time i've heard his voice lmao

also cal cast is pretty nice

glad they're still doing well

[lean cave]

Calclone looks really neat

The arena decreasing in size for final phase is so swag

[spring aspen]

"The Infernal Kris is a craftable Pre-Hardmode dagger. When used, it throws--"

[lapis oak]

omg floppa

hiiii ;;3;3;3;3;3;333

[spring aspen]

Are there any post-SSO plans for them?

(that we know of)

[boreal edge]

I bought a microphone

[lean cave]

Hiiii

[wooden blade]

i find it funny and sad that fabsol is still a big subject within devs while listening to calcast, dude had a big negative impact on the mod

[lapis oak]

𒅌

[wooden blade]

btw i really think the next update should be called the modernization update atp cuz the sso feels like it's 50% of the update now

[terse dew]

it's the merkalto update

but it has no merkalto

coincidence?

[wooden blade]

cuz you're evil, that's why

[dull heart]

oops, all merkalto!

[terse dew]

NPC name Merkalto

Give it to everyone

😈

Every entity that spawns has a 1/250 chance to be named merkalto

[wooden blade]

supreme merkalto

[deft lily]

Yeah

But he's out of the picture so who gives a fuck abt him lol.

[wooden blade]

let's just laugh now

it's funnier

[pseudo vector]

even though he's been gone for 6 months now the effects of his reign of terror will probably still be felt for a bit

[deft lily]

Yeah
He's going to be talked about for a long long time unfortunately.

[pseudo vector]

we've just gotta work through that and succeed where he could not

[deft lily]

Both from a dev perspective and a community spectrum

[deft lily]

U guys are doing a good job at that so far (imo)

[shut ridge]

Why are the fishes being removed 😢

[pseudo vector]

i dunno lol

[mighty geyser]

readded stratus sphere
WERE SO BACK

[arctic cliff]

the what?

oh gamer is referring to fishes of night and light

[lavish otter]

Depends, do you mean the fishes of light and night?

[shut ridge]

yes

[arctic cliff]

could've been easily been quest fish tho

[pseudo vector]

they didn't really do that much i guess?

[shut ridge]

but Also the essence fishes are being reworked, why?

[jagged cliff]

Fishes of night and light aren't that useful though

[still bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/stratus-sphere-calamity-mod-calamity-stratus-sphere-gif-26033349

it worked

[lavish otter]

Because those are removed for redundancy, you can just get the souls from their respective crates

[deft lily]

They didn't do that much I think.

Yeah.

[mighty geyser]

cal is playable again

[shut ridge]

ah I didn't realise the souls can just be dropped from crates

[jagged cliff]

I'm like 90% sure the stratus line is getting a rework

So it wont be the same

[pseudo vector]

its been reworked yes

[tropic jolt]

you can be 100% sure

[pseudo vector]

the fact that so many whatever or pointless things have stayed have definitely created a fair amount of bloat in the mod

[deft lily]

^^^^^^^

[pseudo vector]

that stuff will probably be reworked, repurposed or just removed

regardless of what we do there will probably be people who're like "but i liked [x item] :("

[lavish otter]

I was about to say, yeah

[jagged cliff]

Most people might perceive some random weapons as iconic

[deft lily]

I mean yeah.
Theres always at least one.

[jagged cliff]

I remember coldheart icicle was one of those even though it was so stupidly cheesy

[fringe quiver]

dude i read reign of terror and i got whiplash

im going to die

[cunning sequoia]

reign of update

[fringe quiver]

reign of releasing the game

[deft lily]

But most of the time those people aren't exactly the most rational in the head and so can safely be ignored 😎

[lavish otter]

To be fair, I think there's an argument to be made there because it was, it's like Slick Cane

[pseudo vector]

whatever you've gotten attached to, be mindful that it may or may not receive the treatments i mentioned so don't get too attached i guess

[arctic cliff]

to be FAIR, the item was iconic because it was stupidly cheesy

[wooden blade]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

i hate discord

[arctic cliff]

can ya'll rework coldheart to be a shortsword instead of a alicorn on a stick clone

[lapis oak]

CIT leaked Luxor rework

good one

[pseudo vector]

oh yeah briefly speaking of the changelogs from this morning

[pseudo vector]

the window titles were a lot of fun to come up with

[deft lily]

True

[lavish otter]

Oh yeah, I moreso meant that I was going to say it's a shame that so much useless stuff got added into the mod so early on, because it results in such an excessive amount of content bloat, but trying to trim it just leads to random people getting annoyed because they happened to like those items

[pseudo vector]

they'll almost definitely be listed on the wiki but i hope you guys encounter at least a couple of them

[pseudo vector]

and yeah, that's an unfortunate thing we'll have to deal with as a result

[jagged cliff]

I kind of felt that way about the Divine retribution, but it did feel like the weapon didn't have a place in new calamity

[deft lily]

Anytime I see someone threatening to quit calamity because a disliked feature got removed (or whatever the case may be).
I laugh lol.

[spring aspen]

I remember when Divine Retribution was removed I said "oh no" and right below me in the chat somenone else said "finally"

paraphrasing but you get the point

[pseudo vector]

ye

[spring aspen]

Though yes I know why it was removed
it's a fair reason

[still bluff]

the calamity mod experience

[deft lily]

real

[pseudo vector]

we still have a lot of clean up to do lol

like in reality the work has only just begun

[deft lily]

Remove every boss (it's content bloat)

[lavish otter]

It's a real calamity™

[deft lily]

[still bluff]

next update SCal will be removed as the team no longer thinks she fits with what we want in the mod

[mighty geyser]

TRUE

[wooden blade]

ngl it's fine to remove features from the mod considering how much things are on it

[cunning sequoia]

wtf octo...

[pseudo vector]

i think if we removed scal we'd have people with pitchforks and torches at our doors

[mighty geyser]

the me

[halcyon seal]

My entire sense of self worth is attached to the Hellfire Flamberge and if it is ever removed I will personally send 70 unaffiliated hitmen to Ozzatron’s address

[cunning sequoia]

replace scal with yharim

[dull heart]

Scal is being moved to my storm weaver mod

[cunning sequoia]

[dull heart]

And resprited into a storm weaver

[deft lily]

Oh Definitely LOL

[wooden blade]

i mean you remove "jenna calamity" i think it's understandable

[halcyon seal]

Someone had to say it

[wooden blade]

it's like removing the mutant from fargo

[dull heart]

[spring aspen]

We're bringing back the EoC and Destroyer sprites for SCal and DoG

it's what the new vision is

[pseudo vector]

i know i want to have a hand in a bunch of the boss reworks since i've got a bunch of shit going through my brain for them

[wooden blade]

EWWWWWWWWWW

[cunning sequoia]

at this point i think removing ANY boss would make people come at the devs with pitchforks

[deft lily]

• Re-Added "Now Stop Asking Where"

[halcyon seal]

Lowkey for how old calamity is the old scal sprite wasn’t that bad back then

[wooden blade]

except old duke

[lavish otter]

Oh shoot, I didn't realize you were a dev for a second
Damn, so it must be true 😔

[halcyon seal]

It was pretty par for the course for early 1.3 mods

[spark kiln]

the sky is blue guys

[cunning sequoia]

maybe

[wooden blade]

i think people would collectively agree that it's a good thing to remove him

[cunning sequoia]

but nah theres still people who like old duke

[pseudo vector]

i'm gonna be ideasguy-ing so fucking much with my dumb shit sketches for boss attacks and stuff

[polar tide]

going through your... what...?

[cunning sequoia]

people will defend random dogshit weapons or materials used for like 3 things

[wooden blade]

a loud minority ngl

[pseudo vector]

old duke is tolerable

[jagged cliff]

Nobody likes old duke

[cunning sequoia]

they WILL defend old duke

[deft lily]

Hi alex user!!!

[lyric trellis]

It’s okay Fluffy isn’t real

[pseudo vector]

i don't mind him

[wooden blade]

it's like that one bland weapon nobody used

[polar tide]

hai

[jagged cliff]

Its just a psyop by the sunken sea lovers

[pseudo vector]

you might even say i'm neutral mario about old duke

[lavish otter]

Ooh, I'd love to have that job
I enjoy coming up with random ass attack pattern concepts

[mighty geyser]

i dont think theres a single person in the world who cares about aquatic scourge

[cunning sequoia]

i do.

[wooden blade]

once you remove it "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DID YOU REMOVE MY SQUINGLY DINGAGLY SHORTSWORD, FUCK YOU DEVS"

[mighty geyser]

[wooden blade]

and it's like, justr 4 people who used it

[cunning sequoia]

octo you need to be sacrificed for no good reason

[spring aspen]

wwait wrong quote

[pseudo vector]

the unfortunate consequences of much of calamity's content being very old and frankly very dated

[polar tide]

i dont like old duke becuase hes ugly and i dont like him

[dense sundial]

There is a non-negligible amount of players who would love to remove just about any boss. I think it was agreed that the problem was their ✨ Dokuro Music ✨

[mighty geyser]

WHAT THE FUCKK

[pseudo vector]

we're talking about a mod that's hitting its 10th anniversary next year btw

[lavish otter]

"How can I do a 'Calamity with only shortswords' challenge now 🥺 "

[spring aspen]

quote this

[deft lily]

;-;

[still bluff]

vanishing into dust as we speak

[polar tide]

hes uglyyyyy

[deft lily]

Ugly ass grandpa fish.

[wooden blade]

i mean ngl, it felt like fab based himself more on adding bs rather than fixing things

[polar tide]

ugly old fart man

[wooden blade]

draedon update comes to mind

[halcyon seal]

We’re forgetting that there are many people who will only like something the instant it is removed

See masdeath prime

[lyric trellis]

See you again once you materialize for the summoner rebalance

[wooden blade]

i liked the update and i still love the exos but like

[dense sundial]

Mate of course he did

[fringe quiver]

as one of the 5 old duke fans on earth,

[dense sundial]

He just added whatever he wanted because he owned the mod and he didn’t care

[fringe quiver]

yeah hes ugly as shit dude he probably smells like poop

[still bluff]

every time someone mentions snapthorn i gain power

[wooden blade]

man it felt lackluster

[polar tide]

THANK you

[jagged cliff]

Snapthorn is the best prehardmode whip

[wooden blade]

i mean yeah of course lmao but you get my point

[modern grove]

Snapthorn is my favorite pre hm whip

[fringe quiver]

i know hes being redesigned but i know withj my heart and soul that he will still be ugly

being ugly is part of his character hes the stinky sulphur sea dragon

[mighty geyser]

he based himself on purchasing crustyburgers (vanilla content) and disguising it as his own cooking

[wooden blade]

IT WAS THE FUNNIEST AND GOOGLY DOOKY WEAPON IN THE GAME

[fringe quiver]

hes old and decrepit he smells like fart

[polar tide]

old duke can still be ugly i just dont want him to just be duke fishron but ugly(er)

[deft lily]

^

[fringe quiver]

hes gonna be just a dragon guy now i think

without the fish part

i mean the pig part

i guess the fish part can strayt

probably

maybe

[wooden blade]

i kinda hope it's a joke but i wouldn't be surprised

[fringe quiver]

i dont know im not jane designing old duke

[polar tide]

ugly stupid stinky smelly dragonfish :)

[lyric trellis]

Well he tried to fix stuff, but most of it was trying to “fix” vanilla and a lot of things were just made worse

[fringe quiver]

pig part is gonna die though i know that much

[wooden blade]

or using his money to pay nsfw artists

[spark kiln]

so have the devs figured out what they want to do with duke

[halcyon seal]

Old Duke should look more like Fishron. Remove any unique attacks he currently has

[fringe quiver]

he wont be a horrible hog anymkore

[wooden blade]

kind of shit like that

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/synthetic-patties-slop-spongebob-squarepants-krabby-patty-synthetic-krabby-patties-gif-14169303711794440460

[mighty geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/unique-ai-terraria-terraria-calamity-gif-22727304

fuck

[lavish otter]

Honestly, I think it'd be cool for him to be an aquatic dragon

[mighty geyser]

give me cool dude rn

[spark kiln]

seems like they changed their minds about 50 times

[wooden blade]

cool dude

idk????????

[polar tide]

thtsi gif killing me

[fringe quiver]

I don't think there has been much of a mind change save for the resprite triangle was made being scrapped after fabsol got shot

[wooden blade]

that's basically how it felt before

[still bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/unique-ai-terraria-terraria-calamity-gif-22727304

[fringe quiver]

and thats mainly just becasue 1. he can have entirely unique ai now 2. after i think some feedback by tobias the conclusion was lead that hes probably better off without the being a hog part

[lavish otter]

Especially since aquatic dragons are (in my opinion) usually really majestic, which would be a nice contrast to the horrible hog

[still bluff]

apply for moderator for embed perms /j

[fringe quiver]

dont quote me on this though

[wooden blade]

i still find it funny how there's an entire addon that adds the "unique ai" caption each time a cal boss is summoned

[spark kiln]

i’ve heard them say it’s gonna be more dragon like, it’s gonna be removed, it’s gonna be something completely different and unrecognisable, now you’re saying it’s gonna be a dragon again

[dense sundial]

He’s also a sneaking conniving curmudgeon

[fringe quiver]

idk who said it was gonna be removed thats just plain wrong

and yeah

[polar tide]

my brain is in fucking baby mode right now dude i just keep repeating "stupid smelly stinky fish" to myself and smiling

[dense sundial]

I think that part is perhaps more important

[fringe quiver]

its gonna be completely different and unreconizable

and a dragon

those are not mutually exclusiver concepts

anyways

[lavish otter]

Basically, he's gonna be "removed" in the sense that no part of his current self is really going to remain

Except being a sulphur sea boss

[wooden blade]

i think it's due to that one quote on the doc saying that he'd get replaced, some people thought he'd get removed and something else would take his place

[spark kiln]

and music right

[lavish otter]

And old

[halcyon seal]

I just now realized every dragon in calamity is a fishron in some way

[modern grove]

This will be old duke in 2007

[halcyon seal]

Including betsy

[lavish otter]

Ah yeah, probably the music too

[wooden blade]

old duke's music is fucking awesome though

[wooden blade]

BACTERIP¨HAGE SPOTTED

[cunning sequoia]

folly is a mothron

[fringe quiver]

guys trust me oold duke has alooot of lore potential since hes a fully sapient dragon whos as close as it gets to being auric while also being evil as shit so he can directly blow a hole in yharim's ideology on the dragon side of things and also he can be a really interesting look into the good and bad sides of dragon society since hes like one of the only characters from that time whos still alive and he probably would have alot to say about them which would contrast with yharon who would probably be fully supportive and say all sorts of nice things about the auric dragons while old duke hates their asses And

[wooden blade]

LETS KILL BACTERIAS BY THOUSANDSSSSSSSSSS

[dense sundial]

And this is our problem!

[halcyon seal]

Oh right folly

[spark kiln]

would be silly to remove one of the best tracks

[halcyon seal]

4/5 is still really funny

[still bluff]

replace old duke with nuclear terror

[modern grove]

Give folly shsrkron ai

[wooden blade]

yeah like it's the only good thing coming from him

[modern grove]

Sharkron

[fringe quiver]

replace fluffy with a giant fucking hammer

like a huge hammer

´[really big

[mighty geyser]

world if

[modern grove]

It should die on impact with tiles

[still bluff]

i want to add snapthorn as an emoji here

[fringe quiver]

nuclear terror replacing old duke is the take that makes cheese kill herself because it makes cheese kill herself

chees\e will now kill herself

[polar tide]

bye cheese

[fringe quiver]

wait can i make that joke

im not like

[dense sundial]

No I mean it’s our big problem with heavily reworking or functionally replacing any boss at all

[fringe quiver]

telling someone else ot do it

[cunning sequoia]

i feel like theres a pretty big chunk of the fandom whose only reason for enjoying calamity is the music so removing any dokuro song would be a death sentence

[fringe quiver]

im doing it to myself

[mighty geyser]

ill give azzy the news

[fringe quiver]

thats allowed right

im moderator

im moderate

[mighty geyser]

😔

[fringe quiver]

im responsible

[dull heart]

Trade offer

[polar tide]

you can make that joke because its funny

[still bluff]

you probably shouldn't, ban yourself now

[wooden blade]

idk dude, you're the boss

[dull heart]

You add snapthorn and also

[fringe quiver]

fuck

[wooden blade]

oh welp

[lavish otter]

The biggest lie told on Christmas 😔

[spark kiln]

not really

[fringe quiver]

uhh replacement

[spark kiln]

most players enjoy the mod and the music

[wooden blade]

spamthorn

[halcyon seal]

All dog fans

[cunning sequoia]

i didnt mean most

[fringe quiver]

im gonna hog myself

yep

thats my

my calmain replacement for it

wait

[cunning sequoia]

i meant a noticable part

[fringe quiver]

fuck that

that's like very close

to

[spark kiln]

pretty big chunk is still wrong