calamity-update-talk

[visual inlet]

Rogue is the best class

[fringe quiver]

every class is slightly different ranger

[vivid hemlock]

half of melee's weapons having projectiles

[soft panther]

Agreed - it’s gameplay is boring- it’s a fun class using summons, but gameplay is literally “jump, dodge, fly” until the boss dies

[fringe quiver]

summoner is like the most different one but even then addition of whips made it more in line

[hushed hazel]

because only one of them has Go My Swarm

[misty wren]

mana is such a potential gimmick but then fUCKING MANA FLOWER

[fringe quiver]

not that im saying whips were a bad addition i always though summoner seemed like the most objectively boring one

[vivid hemlock]

i HATE mana flower

[visual inlet]

Stealth Rogue is peak

[vivid hemlock]

kill all mana flower accessories

[halcyon seal]

I think the only classes with a meaningfully different gameplay style are summoner and rogue

Mostly rogue

[fringe quiver]

yeah ig rogue is kinda different because of stealth

even then not exactly the biggest difference

terraria combat is just really simple at its conceptual core i think

[lofty vapor]

It's why im really happy they're changing melee to be more true melee focused

[vivid hemlock]

so glad the crowns and flesh totem are being reworked into mage accessories

[terse dew]

True

[fringe quiver]

im not a huge fan of terrarias combat honestly, not that its bad idk its just really simple

not really something i get super excited about

i care more about exploration and building and collecting stuff than combat in terraria most of the time

[pulsar cobalt]

coldest take every

[fringe quiver]

which is also why i dont ever play any of the stupid higher glupshitto difficulty mods amen 🙏

[terse dew]

I don't play terraria so I wouldn't know

[pulsar cobalt]

most weapons in terraria generally have the same range

[terse dew]

If I did though I'd play on easy mode

[steep path]

I kinda like the simplicity of the combat honestly. Makes it easy for my zoomer brain to wrap around - dodge the attacks and fire your weapon

[pulsar cobalt]

(which is the edge of a 1080p screen)

[fringe quiver]

never playing calamity on any difficulty higher than revengeance

[fringe quiver]

that's fair it just dosen't do much for me

[steep path]

fair!

[fringe quiver]

exploration is probably my favorite part of terraria, though i also like building

collecting a bunch of random shit is also fun

[steep path]

It's more engaging when you're playing something like tmelee I think. Until you get to a boss that's absolutely fucking horrible for tmelee in which it becomes a nightmare

[fringe quiver]

its why i like journey

yess yess research my 50000 blocks

research my golden frog terrarium

[misty wren]

i present to thee
the new sugarcoat it

[fringe quiver]

im not really sure what game has my favorite combat

theres alot of contenders

i like silksongs combat, ultrakill, monster hunter, uhhh

🔥

[terse dew]

Drakengard has my favorite combat

[fringe quiver]

meant to send a fish emoji

[terse dew]

😋

[fringe quiver]

🐟

there we go i fixed it

[vivid hemlock]

triangle can we be blessed with the enemy animations from the video 🥺

[steep path]

I'm a big fan of kirby's combat (I have a huge kirby bias)

[terse dew]

Visual novel combat

😋

[vivid hemlock]

fire react this

[vivid hemlock]

wtf

[pulsar cobalt]

dumbass

[vivid hemlock]

im gonna put you into a vial :/

[pulsar cobalt]

yea yea whatever you say

[dusty tinsel]

i cast rubber bones

[terse dew]

You gotta be more specific next time

[graceful ivy]

I cast update delay

[vivid hemlock]

🍅

[dusty tinsel]

Vanillascule

[steep path]

Fish react this

[tropic jolt]

no

[lofty valley]

💠 react this

[quaint kite]

EVERYONE is going to hop on mage after it gets a rework (someday)

[vivid hemlock]

fabsol's mana "rework" just being nebula armor

[quaint kite]

😭

I just want the weapons to be updated

[valid crypt]

Wait what

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/zuko-atla-avatar-the-last-airbender-fire-react-gif-9128004946562426935

[dusty tinsel]

kiriscule react kiri's next message

[lethal lagoon]

nooo

kill me

[hushed hazel]

was it actually

[vivid hemlock]

#calamity-update-talk message

[lavish sorrel]

is the sunken sea coming this year or next year

[sick lotus]

diamond shape with a dot inside react this

[sick lotus]

Probably next

[misty wren]

most likely next

[dusty tinsel]

sunken sea is coming in the year 1821

[hushed hazel]

that's pretty funny

[valid crypt]

Sob

[terse dew]

what if we gave the nebula armor effect to every item

I think this is a unique merkalto idea

[dusty tinsel]

what if we give merkalto to every item

[wary lark]

What if we added more armors instead of having weirdly few for a content mod this big

[hard copper]

i think because mana comes from space, your mana should only regen when in space

[tropic jolt]

what if there was evil mana that increased when you used magic weapons and if it filled up you became evil

[terse dew]

No thanks, that requires work

[wary lark]

just steal ideas from people

[terse dew]

Hmmm

[tropic jolt]

shrimp armor 🦐

[terse dew]

I can get behind that idea

[vivid hemlock]

[misty wren]

there are 31 armor sets we dont need More

[patent canopy]

what if there was niceys mana that increased when you are happy (sunflower) and when its filled up you become niceys

[valid crypt]

They are making the armours not all class
So
Technically kinda removing some

[dusty tinsel]

there will be more

i am adding 10 trillion armors

and i am not even a dev

[misty wren]

there are gonna be "more" (same or similarly tiered armors that are just different thematically)

[strong isle]

Unfortunately

[terse dew]

Fabsol was the ideas dev

[hard copper]

add a trillion more classes and give each 5 helmet armor set another trillion helmets

[strong isle]

Next

[pulsar cobalt]

ah yes nebulas set bonus, which is basically just mana reduction, unless ur weapon already has really low mana usage rate, in which case its just infinite mana

what a great rework

[tropic jolt]

he really had the best ideas

nobody else would be a better ideas guy than him

[pulsar cobalt]

point blank...

[misty wren]

and nefarious evil life regen and 22.5% damage

[pulsar cobalt]

i hope fabsol didnt include those aspects, but i guess we will never know

[misty wren]

knowing him he did

[hard copper]

The nebula booster gives mana regen even when using a weapon?

[pulsar cobalt]

mhm

[hard copper]

Amazing

[misty wren]

also fun fact about shpc altfire it lets you regen mana in between shots

that little fucking mana full sound is burned into my mind because ive used shpc so much

[pulsar cobalt]

lol

[dull heart]

This is not true we need stratus armor

[tropic jolt]

we need at least 20 more armor sets

[dull heart]

if I made stratus armor it would be peak

Multiclass debuff focused armor

[tropic jolt]

spriter hell must continue

[pulsar cobalt]

more proper debuff focus in post ml

🙏

[hard copper]

Would its reuse delay be longer than the use time then? I have no idea how these work lol

[dull heart]

Stratus set is a good set for debuff fans

Because it actually uses its debuff interestingly

[misty wren]

i have no idea! i just know it works

[pulsar cobalt]

can u make post ml debuffs stronger and more impactful and not on every weapon pleeeaaaaassee

[dull heart]

Voidfrost is exclusively restricted to Stratus starburst attacks but does like 200 or 300 dps

[fathom girder]

So what I'm hearing

is stratus mage

stratus chaos stone rather

[vestal osprey]

Stratus set?

Dont they all just inflict nightwither

[lapis oak]

no MURA vid on Reddit yet?

[vivid hemlock]

reddit forever stuck in the past

[lapis oak]

bro I just saw the crate nerfs post

[vivid hemlock]

not even yt will save them

[lapis oak]

almost all of Stip's messages were downvoted like hell 😭

poor Stip

[tropic jolt]

reddit wont even realize sso is out until part 2 comes out

[vivid hemlock]

💔

[tropic jolt]

people there still think dm dokuro is the composer

[lapis oak]

ChiefLogan's message: only 40~ upvotes

[vestal osprey]

Most of reddit doesnt even k ow what sunken sea is getting split

[lapis oak]

Stip's messages: over 200~ downvotes that's crazy

[vivid hemlock]

atleast ideas guy was funny

[lapis oak]

I'll do it myself I'll post MURA vid

Garbo if u see this don't ban

[vivid hemlock]

kiri

do it

[lapis oak]

this is not advertising, just informative

[lapis oak]

spreading

[vivid hemlock]

im putting hope on you to purge them

[tropic jolt]

this whole crate situation is very silly

hopefully the community can move on from it soon

[vestal osprey]

They will

When there is somthing else to complain about

[tropic jolt]

I will give them something to complain about

[vestal osprey]

Ill be the new idea guy for calamity, and ill come up with the worst ideas

[tropic jolt]

remove dog from the mod

[vestal osprey]

First: we remove crates all together

[vivid hemlock]

kiri i will absolve you of all crimes youve committed if you hunt down every enemy of the state

[vestal osprey]

Then we remove water, so nobody can fish

[tropic jolt]

what about lava and honey

[vestal osprey]

Then we do another DoG rework

[lapis oak]

bro does it even show thumbnail if I put Youtube link in

[vestal osprey]

Then we do a brimstone crag overhaul

Then another DoG rework

[lapis oak]

if it's only gonna be just a link that's so bad 😭

[vivid hemlock]

washed application kill all reddit devs

[vestal osprey]

And two more respites

[lapis oak]

needs thumbnail to catch Redditors' attention

[vivid hemlock]

the biggest community hoax ever is the idea that dog gets changed too much

[vestal osprey]

Thumbnail should appear

[lapis oak]

OK IT'S THERE

just took a bit to load

[tropic jolt]

the kiriscule has been spotted

[vestal osprey]

It is the most out of any boss tbf, I think we're at 13 respites

[vivid hemlock]

the last dog resprite was ten millenia ago and its never really gotten a true rework ever

[tropic jolt]

I think scal might have more

[vestal osprey]

Cal clone has alot too

[lyric trellis]

? No lol

[dull heart]

saros on the thumbnail woo

[lyric trellis]

Scal has had like 4 (distinct) ones ever

[hard copper]

Why is dog resprite there

[vestal osprey]

DoG is getting a rework this update

[lapis oak]

needs it to catch Youtuber viewer's attention

[dull heart]

yeah but not a resprite

clickbait misinfo alert

[tropic jolt]

the real biggest hoax is people thinking dm dokuro was murdered purely by the community

[vestal osprey]

I know, thats not coming until the distortion

[dull heart]

also

mura missed Virid Vanguard spoilers

his summoner section only had Exaltation

although i don't think i've shown the finished Vanguard

[lapis oak]

the only way to grow with Youtube 😔

[tropic jolt]

COMING SOON...

[vivid hemlock]

i love mura clickbait

truly a thing of all time

[lyric trellis]

This is so true, in the past 6 years DoG has had 1 resprite and changed in any notable fashion only like 3 times (and never an actual rework obviously)

[vestal osprey]

This update is the first time we're getting a rework of dog

And its gonna make the fight better

[lyric trellis]

I mean I wouldn’t say the first time considering what 1.0 DoG was

[vestal osprey]

Wait the one we have isnt 1.0?

[lyric trellis]

But yeah the first proper rework of this interaction probably

[vivid hemlock]

1.0 dog was a true destroyer copy

[marble apex]

holy shit mura's video got me hyped asf for this update

[vivid hemlock]

[tropic jolt]

wilted mana rose

[marble apex]

im doing 5 playthroughs with each class when ts drops !!!

🥀

[vestal osprey]

Coming soon

Maybe

[tropic jolt]

its never coming

[vestal osprey]

Ehh dont count on it

[marble apex]

dont worry it will be announced for january and then 1.4.5 drops and then we wait 2 more years

👍

[vestal osprey]

The estimated date if I recall is early next yeat

[hard copper]

yeet

[tropic jolt]

nobody has any idea of when its coming out so im just going to say september october

2027

[rich ginkgo]

it will NOT bd announced for january

even if 1.4.5 was later

😭 😭

[lyric trellis]

Estimated before 2027!

[rich ginkgo]

id estimate like summer 2026

[vestal osprey]

1.4.5 is soon

[marble apex]

never said january 2026

😈

[tropic jolt]

it would be funny if the update was only 50% done

[vestal osprey]

Isn't it more like 70 percent is in part 1 and 30 percent is in part 2

[marble apex]

this guy has a good point imo but like

[hard copper]

it will never be out, the scope creep will get larger and larger

[marble apex]

at this point its already done and it looks amazing so nothing to say abt that

[rich ginkgo]

i mean no not really 😭

[vestal osprey]

They're doing that as well

[marble apex]

• i agree with everything besides the reworked weapon removal

every new reworked weapno is million times better than before

[rich ginkgo]

sunken sea is really not that relevant of a biome

it definitely deserved the attention

[tropic jolt]

the thing is that they literally could not rework the bosses because of the horse

[vestal osprey]

Is every calamity biome gonna get this level of polish going forward?

[marble apex]

i hope so

[tropic jolt]

thats the plan

[rich ginkgo]

also because like half of them are dedicated to come with later updates

[marble apex]

astral next pls

that place is so forgetable

[twin juniper]

why did amidias do this

[rich ginkgo]

new dog for example isnt coming until distortion is coming

[marble apex]

what is distortion im out of touch with calamity news

[vestal osprey]

Sulphur sea

[rich ginkgo]

sub world

[vestal osprey]

A subworld they plan to add

[marble apex]

ngl sulphurous sea for me = abyss

[rich ginkgo]

it’s where dog is from

[tropic jolt]

so you know dogs portal abilities

[marble apex]

ohhhh

so there's lore for that

[rich ginkgo]

ydah

[tropic jolt]

yeah

[rich ginkgo]

it’s a whole dimension

[twin juniper]

Minecraft the end

[marble apex]

damn thats cool

[tropic jolt]

it involves dog ceaseless void and noxus

[vestal osprey]

Its where you will fight DoG and signus

[rich ginkgo]

ceaseless void is the portal

that’s how we get there

[marble apex]

what is storm weaver in the lore

dog apprentice?

[vestal osprey]

No

[rich ginkgo]

i think it’s like a similar species to dog right

[twin juniper]

random animal from there

[rich ginkgo]

it’s older though iirc

[tropic jolt]

I think its just the same species as dog

[vestal osprey]

Its a worm from the distortion that managed to break free

[marble apex]

makes sense

[dense sundial]

"the mod's progression revolves around bosses" okay cool you answered your question

[tropic jolt]

so there will be probably be updates for all the calamity biomes and then the distortion will be added after that, but everything is subject to change

[vestal osprey]

Oh they should do a Sulphur sea/abyss overhaul.

[rich ginkgo]

they are lmao

[marble apex]

i hope they do astral next cus that biome is nonexsitant 🙏

[rich ginkgo]

like almost everything from this point forward is being reworked

[vestal osprey]

Astral is made for 2 bosses and a few items

[rich ginkgo]

or just flat out remade

[marble apex]

i summon the astrla bosses in the astrla biome

[vestal osprey]

The bosses in astral could really use a rework

[marble apex]

damn misspelt it twice

and then i just dip in the air idk if they even enrage

[tropic jolt]

unfortunately we're stuck with massive scope creep SSO for now but hopefully when its finished updates will release a lot faster

[marble apex]

the astrum deus split phase i never got, why does he do that what's the point why are they both the same hp

[rich ginkgo]

there isnt really a roadmap but i remember the plan after sso being bco (brimstone crags overhaul)
however im 99% sure this isnt the case anymore and the team doesnt really know what’s next

[twin juniper]

Have you heard of the plan on astrum aureus yet
yk the one where it’s a passive mob on early hardmode and get corrupted later on

[vestal osprey]

Honestly with how much of a scope creep there was, so many items are already remade that it will save time in future updates that would of remade those jtems

[marble apex]

nope but that sounds very nice

[dense sundial]

is the scope not still creeping

[tropic jolt]

it will never stop creeping

[twin juniper]

It would also kill astral enemies before getting corrupted too

[marble apex]

one thing i like from infernum is that storm weaver will appear to eat wyverns randomly

[dense sundial]

in that case, why do you say 2.1 will release

[marble apex]

from what i see with the SSO update devs are leaning closer to that level of immersiveness

idk if thats a word

[tropic jolt]

hopium

[marble apex]

immersion*

[tame coyote]

Does anyone have a release date for Calamity's Sunken Se??

[dense sundial]

no

[tropic jolt]

amidias blood sacrifice will increase development speeds by 700%

[marble apex]

amidias give me 5 new weapons please !! tahnks !

now be irrelevant after that

[vestal osprey]

Thinking about the next updates

Astral infection overhaul

Brimstone crag overhaul

Sulphur sea overhaul and abyss overhaul

Distortion update

Yharim update

[rich ginkgo]

is spoiler talk gonna be people asking for sso release date for the next week now because of mura video

[tropic jolt]

for the next ever

[tropic jolt]

its going to be really funny if they decide to add yharim and be done with it after 2 updates

[vivid hemlock]

did you know that calamity npc shops are gonna start to be phased out

[tropic jolt]

I wouldnt blame them either because clearly this community deserves nothing

[rich ginkgo]

yharon rework might be it’s own thing i think

[vivid hemlock]

instead you have to do quests for them (amidias next update)

[rich ginkgo]

and exo mechs rework

[vivid hemlock]

correct

[rich ginkgo]

they were planning on stuffing yharon rework in sso (this was pre-murder of the fab)

then said it might be inbetween sso 1 and sso 2

now i have 0 clue

[vivid hemlock]

nah

[tropic jolt]

can we even say for sure if yharons getting a rework

[vivid hemlock]

yharon being in sso was fabsol copium

it was never serious

[rich ginkgo]

yeah lol that’s true

[tropic jolt]

ive been told many things from many people

[rich ginkgo]

yharon inbetween sso 1 and sso 2 was more realistic

[obtuse hawk]

sso gaslighting

[rich ginkgo]

or right after sso

[obtuse hawk]

sso lantern

[rich ginkgo]

but i feel like exo mechs rework is more important

[rich ginkgo]

we havent gotten an update on yharon in a longgg time

last thing i heard was dia was still working on the animations for him

[tropic jolt]

well at least their sprite is finished 😭

[vivid hemlock]

what

[rich ginkgo]

wait

[tropic jolt]

lol

is it that secretive

[vivid hemlock]

whats secretive

[tropic jolt]

the amidias boss fight

[vivid hemlock]

yeah they dont want the people to know

[dense sundial]

is it weird to say i wish it wasn't

because their design irks me on a deep and primal level

[rich ginkgo]

idk i forgot if it was or not so im just not gonna comment

[tropic jolt]

big bird ❤️‍🩹

[vivid hemlock]

amidias bossfight coming in sso3

[vestal osprey]

Sso4: featuring Dante from the devil may cry series

[cobalt wharf]

i hate being told things

[tropic jolt]

you will be told more things

soon

[cobalt wharf]

[vivid hemlock]

gulp...

[tropic jolt]

🐟

[lapis oak]

what

what's wrong

[tropic jolt]

yeah yharons new sprite is cool but he needs a santa hat

roar of the christmas dragon

[vivid hemlock]

🔥

get this man a job

[lapis oak]

BRO how the fuck is the crate changes post 2 got more upvotes than my MURA vid link 😭

these fucking people literally enjoy feeding themselves into negativity

[twin juniper]

Skyblock is more important

[tropic jolt]

its all amidias fault

he did this

[distant raft]

insanely niche hyperoptimised challenge is more popular than calamity mod sorry

[vivid hemlock]

thats how the world works

[distant raft]

the numbers dont lie yknow

[twin juniper]

this might be a revenge because of what this chat did to him but I’m not sure

[tropic jolt]

his final form will be amidias fusing with the code of calamity and corrupting every single players pc

[twin juniper]

God of hyper corruption amidias vs calamity verse

[tropic jolt]

amidias more like evildias

[distant raft]

i cant believe theyre adding cal overhaul to calamity

[tropic jolt]

revolutionary

how did overhaul devs predict this

[vivid hemlock]

we should start jingling around the murasama plans like keys to distract them

[dull heart]

i should shoot a saros deathray at them

i want to record a saros teaser

but also i don't wanna do it on exos

and i can't on scal because haha arena

[rich ginkgo]

do it on yhar

[vivid hemlock]

test it on yharon

[dull heart]

but then it'll obliterate him

[misty wren]

jared

do it on jared

[dull heart]

scary thought

[misty wren]

or healthboost yharon by like 150%

[viral dove]

grab a zerg potion and do it on the post-dog solar eclipse

[still cobalt]

i forgot are hardmode weapon reworks being introduced in SS1

[vivid hemlock]

yeah

[strong isle]

Oh boy, you haven't seen anything

I've been dealing with that fiasco for half a day

My main comment has 309 downvotes

And it's past midnight

People also seem to be losing interest in the Sunken Sea Overhaul, which is in great part our fault so

It all makes sense

[tropic jolt]

💔

this is the end of calamity mod

its amidias mod now

[hard copper]

Who knew so many people cared this much about the crate loot pools, what a calamity

[lavish otter]

That's something that's kind of crazy to me though, because I know we haven't gotten a major update in a long time, but people are acting like we're even starved for information on the update...when we're almost constantly getting new teasers

[stark pond]

please dont tell me they're still talking about crate items drop thing

[serene parrot]

the crate changes opened the old wound of preboss plantera being removed

[molten grove]

(they very much are)

[serene parrot]

i miss preboss plantera

[stark pond]

god damn it

[serene parrot]

i want preboss plantera back

[hard copper]

The news made it to red nation

[lavish otter]

Like this reminded me of my experience with Silksong, but like...then I realized the difference is that I only lost interest there because we weren't getting a lot of info on what we could expect from the game

[stark pond]

the change is bad but like, how many would actually bother to fish for crates in calamity

[serene parrot]

i did

[lavish otter]

Also to be fair, I do that, but like...I don't care that the devs actually want us to play the game

I think that might be an improvement really

[molten grove]

changes were for consistency and not for enforcing gameplay

[distant raft]

i like the part of the game where you interact with it

[vivid hemlock]

people complaining abt preboss plant as if it was ever intended

[tropic jolt]

I like the part of the game where you get swarmed by angry hornets

[serene parrot]

i dont care if it was intended or not, it shouldve been kept in

[lavish otter]

Fair, but even then, it has the side effect of making it so you don't just have a cheat code to not have to explore and engage with the game outside of a pool of water

[vivid hemlock]

okay

[hidden ridge]

Some people really don’t want to play the game, while still technically “playing” the game

[rich ginkgo]

coming from youtube or reddit? which one

[stiff light]

who r u

[lavish otter]

Which yeah, I actually like that! I think games tend to become a lot less enjoyable when you're constantly thinking "Damn, I'm wasting my time, there's a much faster way to do this...", but then if you went for the faster way, you'd just be left...kind of bored

[serene parrot]

dude, i figured out on my own how to get preboss plantera

[rich ginkgo]

??

[tropic jolt]

who r we

[rich ginkgo]

stranger user

[tropic jolt]

we are calamity 😈

[serene parrot]

so it being removed was kinda bad, i shouldnt have said anything about it

[vivid hemlock]

why are we even talking about it in this channel anyways

[stiff light]

ive seen stranger things

[distant raft]

if you want preboss plantera we have souls

[rich ginkgo]

im watching it right now

[lapis oak]

where doze

[rich ginkgo]

im on season 2

[stiff light]

guess what

[lapis oak]

didn't he say gonna record Saros

[serene parrot]

i havent but ive heard good things about it

[rich ginkgo]

chicken butt?

[stiff light]

yea

[stiff light]

ive heard strange things

[strong isle]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[hollow harness]

could you mention 5 of them

[autumn pollen]

ive been reading most of it
i feel for you

[strong isle]

Thanks

[autumn pollen]

im very excited for this update tho and i dont mind the crate changes 🔥

[tropic jolt]

we will always support clamity

[autumn pollen]

y'all been hard at work

[stiff light]

hey guys i hate the crate changes

thanks

[distant raft]

i love the crate changes we have to kill each other now

[stiff light]

u can win

[serene parrot]

i feel neutral about the crate changes, i'll referee the fight

[serene parrot]

used to be mad about them but i got it out of my system

[summer shore]

enough about the crate changes let's talk about the grate changes

[vivid hemlock]

this is the real shit

[serene parrot]

grates didnt get changed though

[autumn pollen]

grated cheese

[tropic jolt]

I do not like the crate changes but I do not care because it barely changes my calamity experience

[stiff light]

cheese

[summer shore]

shut up!

[shell notch]

I should be more active here, much more chill and respectful than the cesspool that is reddit.
the changes are changes. I'll fish no matter what. I'll join Dragonslayer in refereeing the fight

[autumn pollen]

i never fish lol

[stiff light]

i can change that

[vivid hemlock]

the auric grate coming to an sso near you

[tropic jolt]

the loser of the fight must complete infernum masochist with calamity overhaul

[serene parrot]

i hate the calamity reddit, its nothing but calamitas thirst traps from what ive heard

[stiff light]

i already play ts

without infernum actually

[autumn pollen]

on one block with 1 heart on hardcore

[tropic jolt]

infernum is needed for maximum jank

[shell notch]

haven't seen many of those... as of late I've seen a LOT of hatred and 8000000 downvotes on every dev's post because "The crates! This one niche challenge is ruined!" when they are focusing on the main way to play the game first. they will balance challenge seeds/world later

[lavish otter]

Also, it's kind of funny since I'm on the other end here
I like it, but it'd barely affect my playing experience anyways since...I like mining for resources, I never really thought to just fish for them when I could do that instead. If anything, I usually just sell the ores and stuff I get from crates

[stiff light]

i didnt order a yapuccino

[summer shore]

did you order a happyccino

[autumn pollen]

ngl people be overreacting to this stuff

[stiff light]

i did

can i have some happy

[summer shore]

yay

[serene parrot]

i do understand the complaining though, its nerfing a mechanic most people dont engage with just to hurt the people that do

[shell notch]

true

[summer shore]

you may have one(1) happy

[stiff light]

yea

[vivid hemlock]

oh wait something thats actually remotely interesting and on topic
@strong isle btw whats the status of the aerialite tent thing that was shown a while back

[stiff light]

thats fair

[vivid hemlock]

that wasnt why the change was done but okay

[stiff light]

on topic?

yea im outta here

[summer shore]

bbye

[autumn pollen]

hi btw
i havent been active here
since 2021 lol

[lavish otter]

I think a problem with this is the viewpoint
It's not "just to hurt the people that engage with it", it's to be consistent across the board...but it's a lot easier to hate it when you see it as an attack against you personally

[tropic jolt]

here we go again

[shell notch]

yea
I just find it annoying how the ENTIRE reddit community is now trying to slit Ginyuh's throat over it, since they spoke up

[lavish otter]

Kind of like the skyblock/one block stuff
Most of the changes that go against those aren't to spite the people who do those challenges, it's just an unfortunate side effect of regular game balancing

[lapis oak]

YuH spoke instead of Stip and now he's getting beaten up

on the second post

[autumn pollen]

-# i honestly think people are talking about it so much mainly cuz the oneblock guy made a video about it

[serene parrot]

i still dont think this regular game balancing wouldve happened without the video, but maybe not

[lapis oak]

yes

[tropic jolt]

calamity reddit will mourn dokuro in half the posts and do this in the other half 😂

[lapis oak]

50k views is a big number

[vivid hemlock]

these changes were done a year ago

[shell notch]

exactly.
they will balance skyblock and oneblock when Vanilla Terraria's updates and balances to those come out.

[lapis oak]

these changes have been sitting in the changelogs since last year

[vivid hemlock]

they just were in the sso code for the longest time and were moved to this patch because it was very connected to a change in the patch

[autumn pollen]

i bet if he didnt this wouldve went completely unnoticed and not been a problem
(absolutely not trying to blame him tho)

[lavish otter]

Maybe so, but i still feel like it wouldn't be to spite those players, it'd moreso be a situation of that forcing the devs to look back over how certain parts of the game are balanced, realize they...aren't, and fix that so it doesn't break regular gameplay

[summer shore]

Calamity reddit will mourn something that happens 5 years ago and something that happens 5 days ago

[lavish otter]

WOAH LORD

[tropic jolt]

yes

[autumn pollen]

changelogs jumpscare

[vivid hemlock]

october 2024 💔

[misty wren]

yeah

[summer shore]

They will never mourn anything after the 5 day mark

[misty wren]

a lot of people are mad not because they actually care about it but because a youtuber told them to

[shell notch]

BAH! TEXT WALL JUMPSCARE

[shell notch]

yea

[lavish otter]

Good point actually, this happened with the recipes for the...Ankh charm items, I think?

People cared for a second, then they stopped

[serene parrot]

thats because i got a qol mod with recipes for those

and also because said change hasnt been implemented yet

[misty wren]

it was like a day and a half before people realized it doesnt really matter because they arent that hard to get in the first place

[shell notch]

I just went "aw man... oh well" and moved on

[lavish otter]

Fair, it's just funny since they act like it's a huge deal, then forget about it after a few days because there's a mod for everything these days

[misty wren]

like ankh components are not very hard to get in calamity especially because they can all be shimmered into each other

[autumn pollen]

i thought removing the ankh shield from asgard's valor was a bit stupid but then i saw that they have other plans for the ankh shield and i was like "oh cool"

[shell notch]

yeah lol
hell, there are mods to revert the smallest of things, like Calamitas's sprite

[misty wren]

ankh being removed from asgards valor isnt even that stupid it just has no reason to be there

[lapis oak]

it's not even stupid in the first place

[lavish otter]

Also yeah, fair
And funny enough, i think it only irked me for a short time because it reminded me of the one time I needed a blindfold, and killed like...350 EoS's before I got one

[lapis oak]

Asgard line is too overcentralized as an accessory

[still bluff]

there's mods to revert the zenith nerf because people want to kill providence in 30 seconds

[serene parrot]

the new sprite barely looks different from the old one
it's a japanese flag redesign sprite

[autumn pollen]

ye i stopped caring and realized its fine lol

[lavish otter]

Which wasn't hard, it was just boring

[distant raft]

"zenith sucks" and then they ignore that its the best single weapon for one of the final bosses and a good pick for the other

[misty wren]

like why does a ramdash need so many debuff immunities slapped on it as well its already a ramdash and the knockback immunity is staying

[shell notch]

A few things all the haters need to learn
Patience, trust the process, and simply adapt

[still bluff]

calamity has to pick a way to present the game
unfortunately not all of the millions of people who play cal think the same way is the best way

[autumn pollen]

im bein' patient
anyway when Yhari-

[tropic jolt]

they gaslit me into thinking zenith was bad for so long 😢

[serene parrot]

5 days.

[rich ginkgo]

this is being changed

[still bluff]

yesterday

you didn't see?

[shell notch]

exactly
It's their mod, they have their vision for it. let them make what they have envisioned

[misty wren]

yes that is what we are referring to

[lapis oak]

the power of echo chamber is absolute crazy

[autumn pollen]

oh mah gosh no way

[misty wren]

(fluffy is a dev, they know

[lapis oak]

people being fed on misinformation all teh fucking time

[lavish otter]

Also I at least see how this happens- it not being a lawnmower for early post-ML by way of being locked to post-Yharon is technically a downgrade, so people just look at that and forget why it was brought there in the first place

[still bluff]

no my green disguise don't tell them

[lavish otter]

WAIT A SECOND-

[autumn pollen]

maybe the real devs were the friends we made along the way

[summer shore]

it's called green humour

[rich ginkgo]

dev role should be over mod role imo

[shell notch]

lol you got me with that disguise
you could've just said nothing and I would have not believed them

[tropic jolt]

moderator role is green for an amazing reason

[still bluff]

XD

[shell notch]

true lol

[distant raft]

no? green means mod and devs cant be mods

[still bluff]

toothplase flavoured developer

[misty wren]

nah seeing moderator is more important than seeing dev role

[shell notch]

mmm, minty

[serene parrot]

wish scal and exos were available right after moon lord like everyone else

[tropic jolt]

mods have to enforce their tyrannical rule onto the devs

[still bluff]

god
post ML having literally everything avaliable is such a thing

[rich ginkgo]

😓

[autumn pollen]

SCaL pre boss

[misty wren]

whatever... go my low% route

[tropic jolt]

is this the worst take ever?

[lavish otter]

Oh yeah, I forget that you can fight DoG as your first post-ML boss

[still bluff]

it does have the funny result of mods being able to just give out and take away dev role at will

[distant raft]

can we have preboss exos i dont wanna have to play the game

[shell notch]

no...
I've seen much worse lol

[still bluff]

(not that we do for sillies)

[vivid hemlock]

low%

[serene parrot]

i just think itd be cool

[lavish otter]

Intentionally at that

[cobalt wharf]

hey man i got a big ask

[autumn pollen]

Exo mechs with pre boss gear and a copper shortsword only when

[misty wren]

you should give me dev role imo i will do nothing except add one order of magnitude to all boss damage and not test it

[shell notch]

main one being somebody said that all the bosses should be Pre-moon lord.

[serene parrot]

not the worst idea

[still bluff]

oh we can make people ozzatron flavoured too

[summer shore]

bragging smh

[autumn pollen]

you should make me the owner of calamity mod for no reason it would be really funny 😎

[shell notch]

that guarantees somebody's just gonna skip the entire mod and mope about "I never saw a modded boss this sucks"

[still bluff]

true

[misty wren]

oh i suppose you can i suppose ozzatron color isnt the mod owner role

[still bluff]

yea lmao

[tropic jolt]

what if you were the owner of the amidias mod instead

[cobalt wharf]

nonlinearity is a virus i swear i already knew people were gonna get corrupted like this

[dull heart]

me too

[autumn pollen]

i would die

[still bluff]

nonlinearity we need more

[tropic jolt]

it will never get better

[shell notch]

(I have a friend who literally missed all of hardmode and prehardmode by playing normally, and asked why every boss is post-moonlord)

[still bluff]

i want scal within 3 minutes of the game starting

[dull heart]

Screw nonlinearity, let's lock anvil behind King Slime

[autumn pollen]

just remove every class

[tropic jolt]

genuinely how do you miss deus

[misty wren]

sgamod speechbubble

[cobalt wharf]

video games would be cool if i could fight the every boss right now. please add this aspect in immediately without designing any of the rest of the game around this ability

[serene parrot]

terminus

[shell notch]

no clue. they saw the biome, said "weird" and moved on, not even bothering at the altar"

[dull heart]

You can! Go dive for terminus

[cobalt wharf]

nonlinearity is so cool in games built for it ngl

[dusty tinsel]

Every boss should clearly be mandatory for progression that way you can't skip them /j

[strong isle]

Wdym

[autumn pollen]

and make sure to use the rod of discord!

[strong isle]

It's still written in the plans, afaik

[shell notch]

DOUBLE DEV ROLE JUMPSCARE

[lavish otter]

Wait, can you do the boss rush in full without beating any of its bosses outside of it?

[vivid hemlock]

its still gonna be a thing right

[strong isle]

I think so, hopefully

[still bluff]

dev invasion

[lavish otter]

I got the thing pre-ML, but kind of just...assumed it cut off with the last boss you killed

[misty wren]

yeah

[still bluff]

like
theoretically sure

good luck killing anything

[shell notch]

I mean... you can
doesn't mean it'll be easy...

[serene parrot]

how many people would quit if skeletron was locked behind deerclops

[dusty tinsel]

Clearly you use cheat sheet to win /j

[lavish otter]

Veeerrryyyy interesting

[tropic jolt]

I did multiplayer with friends and they summoned boss rush in phm

we killed king slime

[cobalt wharf]

i mean that doesn’t really count because you have to kill every boss in progression order to get to your “tierskip boss” lol

[shell notch]

...throwing Bricks with snow ruffian armor vs boss rush

[misty wren]

its possible its entirely nonfeasible and about as fun as putting your hand through a meat grinder but it is possible

[still bluff]

exactly

[cobalt wharf]

i have tierskipped to moon lord in phm after fighting stronger versions of every boss before moon lord

[dusty tinsel]

You can't quit either it forces you to play every time you turn on your computer /j

[still bluff]

do it with phaseslayer

actually put your hand through a meatgrinder

[teal bone]

You know the real reason I like it

[autumn pollen]

i bet a youtuber is gonna do it at some point

[serene parrot]

serious inquiry, please tell me its being reworked

[serene parrot]

(phaseslayer)

[teal bone]

Its so I dont have to farm for it to get a decent ram 🔥

[cobalt wharf]

unlimited tierskips but you have to fight the breath of the wild blight ganons before every attempt

[vivid hemlock]

yes

[serene parrot]

or unlimited tierskips but no tiers

[dusty tinsel]

Is phaseslayer gonna get the phasesaber thing

[lavish otter]

Wait, is phaseslayer being reworked or killed? I forget

[dull heart]

deep diver slander on main I'm banning you

[vivid hemlock]

i think its this update (?) if not its still guaranteed

[dull heart]

potentially both

[misty wren]

nobody wants phaseslayers current functionality to exist at the very least

[lavish otter]

Ooh, exciting

[vivid hemlock]

its basically gonna be a new weapon

[teal bone]

No that can go a long way

[misty wren]

somebody post the wrist image

[still bluff]

citwrist

[dull heart]

Phaseslayer might get reworked temporarily to test a different mechanic for it

[dusty tinsel]

Would be funny if phaseslayer acted like a large phasesaber

[teal bone]

But like late game youd need to make it eventually if charm was still in

[dull heart]

And by might I mean I already coded it

[lavish otter]

So it might be reworked, but might be deleted if it just doesn't work out? Makes enough sense

[serene parrot]

we're going back in time to the draedon update to get phaseslayer's current functionality off the menu

[dull heart]

will it happen for real? unsure but this is what it looks like

[dull heart]

Either way it'll be replaced later entirely

It's just about whether or not it gets a temporary rework until arsenal is finished

[shell notch]

ooh?
might actually make me try melee...

[lavish otter]

So...if you don't mind me asking, what changed?

[shell notch]

(I'm a rogue and mage player for life.)

[misty wren]

now it rotates without directly following your cursors movement

[cobalt wharf]

it is better but it does still have the same problem

[dull heart]

phaseslayer points at the mouse, you have to circle it around the player rapidly

[cobalt wharf]

so idk

[dull heart]

Can't do too small of circles or it gets weaker

This one instead has you slash in the direction of your cursor by swinging your cursor

[lavish otter]

Aaaahhhh, I see
Yeah, I'm not sure if it can be saved

[dull heart]

Swing down and the sword does a downslash

[lavish otter]

But that's a cool concept still!

[dull heart]

This makes it substantially less sucky to use while still keeping the manual swing aspect of it

[serene parrot]

depth crusher line treatment

[cobalt wharf]

the biggest issue is having to do this for four minutes straight lol

[dull heart]

Is it good enough to keep? who knows

Oh also this one gets weaker if you spam it too fast

it's about timing the swings

that makes it significantly less tiring to use

[cobalt wharf]

since that’s how long cal bosses are and it’s not like there’s any period of time during them where you do not just hold attack mindlessly

[shell notch]

interesting...
not a fav, but it's got good potential

[dull heart]

You would only swing it when in swing range of the boss probably

[cobalt wharf]

well it has a projectile

[dull heart]

I still haven't decided what to do about the homing laser beams

They might die

Because they're kinda anti the entire purpose of it

and they look ugly

[cobalt wharf]

good sprite tho

just does not work for the projectile

[dull heart]

Alternatively I could make them use a prim trail to be bendy

[cobalt wharf]

clearly not meant to be turning around mid air 😭

[dull heart]

that could make them look good

[lavish otter]

Death be to the wrists of aggressive players

[dull heart]

it still would make you time swings instead of spam

so it's not that bad

[lavish otter]

Ah yeah, fair

[dull heart]

The fast swings I do at the end there would be too fast for full damage

but I haven't finished that part

I might make it visually shrink when swinging too fast too

I think it might work out? but like, that's why it's going to be a temporary one to see if it's something people enjoy

[shell notch]

honestly I think the projectiles should stay, maybe make it so if you keep good timing good for like 15 swings it will begin to fire those?

[dull heart]

I don't want people to be swinging all the time though

[lavish otter]

That makes sense! Honestly, I could see some visual touches in general helping a bit, since part of the issue seems to be...the presentation, I suppose? I'm interested in seeing were it goes

[dull heart]

I want them only to need to swing when actually in range

[lapis oak]

manual Murasama is crazy

[versed heart]

I guess the homing projectiles could only spawn if you've recently dealt damage with the main swing, or something like that

[shell notch]

I mean, that looks like what it already does... charge it enough and hit the enemy

[dull heart]

to be fair doesn't it's tooltip literally call it a prototype murasama

[shell notch]

it looks like it flashes

[lapis oak]

wait isn't this gonna be Auric tier

prototype is at higher tier than Murasama 😭

[dull heart]

no because this rework is dying once Xyk gets to redoing this

[lapis oak]

I know it just sounds funny

[dull heart]

prototype containing similar strength but being more unstable

[shell notch]

also won't the Murasama be improved overtime...?

[serene parrot]

id rather it be removed

or resprited

[shell notch]

that works too, I guess?

[vivid hemlock]

reworked

[serene parrot]

i hate it

i hate what it is, its the most iconic calamity weapon through no gain of its own

an utter hack

[shell notch]

I thought I heard part of the rework was an upgrade system... like unlocking new abilities with it...

[vivid hemlock]

yeah

[serene parrot]

i already hate it, it reeks of cal overhaul

[vivid hemlock]

no... ?

[shell notch]

it isn't even from Calamity... and yet I heard of people pulling a "The Guy from Fortnite" card with it and thinking it came from here...

[serene parrot]

yep, its in all the clickbait and the main selling point of cal overhaul

[tropic jolt]

☹️ murasama rework took so long the overhaul version is what everyone thinks of now

[twin juniper]

Chat can we separate biome blade line from ark weapons line

[rich ginkgo]

that's what i hate about it too

"the most iconic calamity weapon" and it's a fucking reference item lmao

not unique in any way at all

[tropic jolt]

well to be fair calamity quite literally is the mgr mod

early calamity was basically mgr + hype moments and aura

[serene parrot]

at least ark of the cosmos has some somewhat original ideas

[still bluff]

fabsol when he liked a game

[vivid hemlock]

dude what did aotc do to you

[shell notch]

The Devourer saying "don't get cocky!"
Revengeance mode (metal gear rising REVENGEANCE"
Maybe the Red Sun's name? (theme of Sundowner)

[tropic jolt]

I wonder how much outrage will happen when the healthbar is changed

[tropic jolt]

the boss health bar 💔

[shell notch]

I hope it keeps the same general idea of being off to the side... so much better than the big rectangle in the center

[shell notch]

slipped my mind at the time... whoops

[serene parrot]

wiki says red sun is a reference

[tropic jolt]

it is

[serene parrot]

i like exoblade more than murasama, exoblade supremacy

[tropic jolt]

yharim and draedon are also kind of mgr references in a way

[jagged cliff]

exoblade and murasama are at completely different stages of progression though

[tropic jolt]

draedons heart of course is literally the nanomachines

[twin juniper]

Yharim Rot me so bad I thought he was in warhammer 40k

[shell notch]

I'm a rogue, I don't deal with these MGR references
now if you excuse me, I shall go play with my Touhou reference weapon

[tropic jolt]

the mod has long since moved past it but yharim kind of sort of used to be senator armstrong version 2

[serene parrot]

progression doesnt mean anything in terms of what weapons i find fun
case in point: tome of infinite wisdom (post-one mech)>vivid clarity (post exos)

[twin juniper]

True

[tropic jolt]

adrenaline and rage are also MGR references

[jagged cliff]

I know that but comparing the two seems odd considering they suit completely different niches

[serene parrot]

ok fine, enforcer>murasma
are you happy now

[jagged cliff]

Yes

[vivid hemlock]

enforcer 💔

[twin juniper]

There are coolness in simplicity I swear

[jagged cliff]

Pretty sure the enforcer is getting a rework eventually

[tropic jolt]

💥💥💥

[shell notch]

[tropic jolt]

the variants are still super cool

[shell notch]

true

[tropic jolt]

one day I will get my hands on them

[twin juniper]

Changelogs 644 said they’re killing it

[vivid hemlock]

its getting removed

its the only dog drop that was deemed unsuitable for a rework

[twin juniper]

Too many cosmilite melee weapons or something

[vivid hemlock]

yeah its a redundant weapon

[jagged cliff]

Makes sense since there are so many other options for melee at that stage

[lapis oak]

what did AotC even do to you?

[lyric trellis]

What are you talking about

[twin juniper]

gng did you forget to reply

[lapis oak]

no needs to reply

if they know they know

[jagged cliff]

How do you guys think the sparing mechanic on Cnidrion will work?

[hard copper]

They should remove murasama instead of enforcer ngl

[jagged cliff]

But my epic fabsol MGR reference

[shell notch]

the outrage will tear the community apart...
for a week.
then everything would return to normal with a few mopey fans

[vivid hemlock]

the murasama rework basically makes it a comepletely different thing from the one in mgrr, now they just gotta change its name and the sprite of the weapon

[jagged cliff]

It should be called the enforcer

[vivid hemlock]

[lapis oak]

not happening buddy

so suck it up

[tropic jolt]

oh I know! it should be called the muramasa!!!!

[jagged cliff]

ngl just play mage if you hate the murasama that much

[shell notch]

we can't always get what we want.
it's their mod, we're just playing in it and pretending we have a voice in major things

[jagged cliff]

Mage has like 90% original weapons now ever since the removal of the Divine retribution

[shell notch]

literally any class...
hell, just play melee and ignore it

[jagged cliff]

Half my melee playthroughs I don't even touch the murasama

[vivid hemlock]

i never really got the murasama hype

[hard copper]

That would pretty much fix what I dislike about it, that its a blatant reference.

[white aurora]

murasama is only usable for 3 bosses

aura and hype moments the weapon

[shell notch]

Same! I haven't played melee much but from my experience, it's just a weapon, not one that deserves the absolute extreme hype

[twin juniper]

It’s already in draedon lab guys we could just make it look like a weapon he made

[white aurora]

it's a post dog arkhalis

[shell notch]

the one that really made me happy was Death's Ascension. I know it's being reworked partially but whatever. that weapon carried my ass against DoG Death

[tropic jolt]

the draeblade

[jagged cliff]

It should be called the Draedalibur and deal extra damage

[lean relic]

unlocked in dog
roasts yharon
"I dont want it anymore"
Like so many people only use it in one boss
Or even not using at all

[tropic jolt]

what if the murasama was usable earlier if you named your character jetstream sam I think that would be neat

😁

[hard copper]

damn yeah thats a really good idea

[shell notch]

that would be neat, yeah

[white aurora]

after yharon you get a way cooler weapon too (zenith)

my glorious king zenith

[tropic jolt]

zenith has so much aura

[jagged cliff]

Dragon pow is slept on too

[tropic jolt]

can we all agree the lamest "melee" weapon is burning sky

[shell notch]

yea

[uneven gate]

you never really get anything do you

[hasty tangle]

when the parody weapon is parody

[tropic jolt]

🐊

[jagged cliff]

I feel like Yharon isn't really that much of a priority right now

[white aurora]

🫧 🐊

[uneven gate]

gator

[tropic jolt]

like some kind of colgator

[twin juniper]

Turn it into something like the sword that ark’s mek use

[tropic jolt]

does ares even use a sword in basecal

[uneven gate]

I dont think so

no

[shell notch]

nope
Draedon talks about it in the inquiries, and says he scrapped them because they just... were not good

[lean relic]

fryzahh made it but before he was a caldev for a separate project

no but fry said he can port that rework to base

[rich ginkgo]

youtube shorts really is always late asf huh 😭

[tropic jolt]

draedon cannot appreciate the elegance of a giant laser sword

[shell notch]

he looked at the hard light swords and said "pass"

[tropic jolt]

I watched the new mura video so it has to beg me to watch more

[uneven gate]

"Various sources of conditional damage reduction are now independent and calculated post-defense mitigation, and no longer go through a double-diminishing scaling formula."

so does this mean dr buff lowkey

[jagged cliff]

No I think this means we have less dr

[uneven gate]

what the hell!

[lyric trellis]

It means ADR is dead

[jagged cliff]

ADR = Adrenaline damage reduction?

[lyric trellis]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Damage_reduction#Alternative_Damage_Reduction

[uneven gate]

what the evil

secret damage reduction stat

[shell notch]

oh

anyways I'm out

[jagged cliff]

Do you guys think the regen reforges will be broken?

[lean relic]

I mean regen itself is broken so lol...

[tepid abyss]

so when is that sunken sea update gonna come out, or is it a soon™

[lean relic]

this year or early next year

[vivid hemlock]

next year

[lyric trellis]

Negative chance it comes out this year

[uneven gate]

its gonna come out winter next year if were really lucky

[orchid finch]

At this point best bets is it comes out after 1.4.5

Not FOR 1.4.5, but most probably after

My bets are there, you think whatever you want, it may come out a day before 1.4.5 and then I'll go bankrupt

[uneven gate]

1.4.5 is releasing in like less than a month

potentially

[lean relic]

Most thing you know is pretty much changed
So if sso releases, it will feel like you are playing a calamity for the first time

[uneven gate]

its either December or January

[orchid finch]

All we have is speculations, the reality is that both of these things will come out When It's Done™

[uneven gate]

Relogic has confirmed a december-january release for 1.4.5

[orchid finch]

I feel like you're exaggerating

Like sure, a lot of things have changed

But it definitely ain't like that, I played this shit since 2019 and I've yet to feel like I'm playing Calamity for the first time again :sadge:

[arctic cliff]

SEND HIM TO FABLES

[orchid finch]

Yes, it does feel like I'm playing something fresh, something new, like the things have changed

[orchid finch]

No offense to Fables devs but I just don't see the hype

Like yeah sure, pre-22 vision of Calamity, woohoo

[lean relic]

Reminder sso will release alongside 1.4.5 port if it released first

[rich ginkgo]

i think it was just because it was a pretty small release

some of their concepts sound really cool

[orchid finch]

But I feel like it well could've been it's own mod, without the Calamity label

[rich ginkgo]

but fables has like, 5 things in it right now

and it's all pre hardmode too

[orchid finch]

But then again if you ain't Calamity you ain't popular

[iron dew]

i dont think they named it after calamity because it would make it popular

[orchid finch]

I'm not saying that

[orchid finch]

It's just that if it weren't "Calamity Fables" and it was whatever else, the hype wouldn't have been as big

[sick lotus]

The current fables content was said by devs to be the closest to calamity, future stuff will be less similar.

[orchid finch]

Okay actually I have to take my words back because if it weren't Calamity then it wouldn't have been what it is

[arctic cliff]

IIRC zav they wanted to add a lot of content that was lost to 22, and the only way to get that done would be to do their own calamity mod
im sure theres more to that, i havent even touched fables

[orchid finch]

Regardless, I just don't feel like playing Fables, is all

[rich ginkgo]

it still would have been pretty big because all of the clickbait youtube videos

[lean relic]

Im still considering to make a addon for connecting each other's lore

[rich ginkgo]

"NEW calamity mod?" "calamity mod 2??"

[orchid finch]

Insert Ozzatron Calamity 2 image

[rich ginkgo]

i saw a short on my fyp straight up titled "crabulon got a rework" and it was about fables crabulon lmao

literally nothing to do with base cal

[orchid finch]

Shorts is a synonym to clickbait at this point

[rich ginkgo]

youtube as a whole*

it's been like this ever since i was a kid

[arctic cliff]

you could say, they're shorthand for clickbait

[still bluff]

atm i'll play fables once it has a bit more content
for now there isn't a ton there, i want to wait for it to exist in a more full state before i give it a proper playthrough

[arctic cliff]

^

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

[orchid finch]

"How do I put enough content to fit in one min- ah fuck it, here goes a clickbait title that'll draw more viewers"

[still bluff]

ofc considering the first update released ~2.5 years after 22... it might be a while

idk they might move quicker now lol

[rich ginkgo]

i heard that they took a long break period or whatever and development was super slow

and just before launch they got some sort of motivation spike

i havent really seen any updates on it all though besides the roadmap so i have no clue if that's still the case

[uneven gate]

so fables hasnt gotten any development new or updates since it released?

[rich ginkgo]

im sure there’s some public spoilers or something available if you dig deep enough

im just going off of what ive heard which, isnt much, but im not very active in the fables server anyways

[dusk bronze]

they're working on it

ironically the next update is also the sunken sea

[lapis oak]

wasn't it because Iban's health not good for a long time

[dusk bronze]

wait fr

[still bluff]

i have absolutely no idea lol

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

[dusk bronze]

damn

[rich ginkgo]

i heard they lost motive and iban wasnt in good shape

[barren nacelle]

Groomasama

[fringe mantle]

Wait, will the new update modify world generation in any way?

[distant raft]

the sunken sea overhaul update will in fact overhaul the sunken sea

[fringe mantle]

If I update the mod with a preexisting world, will the preexisting sunken sea get overwritten

[distant raft]

no

also the update isn't out yet

[fringe mantle]

Yeah ik

Just wondering lol

Also, is there anywhere I can read the specifics on the update

[distant raft]

yeah itll have a colossal amount of reworks so it'd be best to just makea new world

[fringe mantle]

Apart from the #changelogs

[distant raft]

future doc is pretty good

in pins

[fringe mantle]

Thanks

[fringe mantle]

I'll probably just make a new world with the same seed and use Hero's Mod to replicate it to the best of my ability

[barren nacelle]

Yeah future doc IS pretty good isn’t it

[vivid hemlock]

[shut ridge]

Sso in five minutes

[distant raft]

sso1 in 3.82 fargo yoctoseconds

[shut ridge]

very bold prediction

[fathom girder]

So in 2037

[fringe mantle]

I assume SSO means Sunken Sea Overhaul

[distant raft]

yeah

[steep path]

Supreme Samuel's Odyssey

[tropic jolt]

samuel of the jetstream variety

[steep path]

This is true

[fathom girder]

Super soaker orb

[steep path]

Yharim has been scrapped it's just flat out jetstream sam now

[hard copper]

silk song overhaul

[tropic jolt]

yharim is just armstrong with a sword

[fathom girder]

Armstrong if he didn't clown around

[tropic jolt]

I can see the future his boss fight will have a janky cutting mini game with a tight time limit

get fucked keyboard players

[steep path]

Does anyone play keyboard without the mouse actually

[lean relic]

there are some

dont click it if you are on mobile

[tropic jolt]

if youve played MGR with keyboard and mouse you know the mouse does not help much for that cutting minigame

👀

[steep path]

Oh fair lmaoo

[sturdy steppe]

yea right

[amber egret]

he's got more ribbons and cloak on 'em

[vestal osprey]

I clicked on mobile

[dull heart]

(it isn't a drop, it's just a craft)

[vivid hemlock]

youre right...

[dull heart]

As for fables

I'll have to wait for it to be more finished probably

I haven't played it, but what I have seen of DS looks just fine

[wicked temple]

wdym

[dull heart]

and then beyond that there's like... crab, sir naut, and wulfrum

[wicked temple]

like fine as in its fine or fine as in damn that worm is fine

[dull heart]

fine as in it's fine

Fables DS has great presentation but the fight itself looked to be pretty generic worm fight

crab I've not looked at, neither nautilus

Fables items are fantastic from what I've seen though

[wicked temple]

its not generic worm fight the worm axtually like

moves

uh

[dull heart]

the worm moves like a worm

[wicked temple]

how do i explain it

[dull heart]

I didn't see anything in the fables DS fight that didn't look like a basic worm attack

[wicked temple]

like it moves like how u expect a worm to move not like a png with segments sliding behind it and sometimes it moves at u

[dull heart]

I have literally no idea what you mean by that

[wicked temple]

u didnt see the lightning orb attack oe the barf artillery?

[obtuse hawk]

barftillery

[dull heart]

again I said the presentation was great but the actual fight design was very generic worm

[wicked temple]

have u actually fought it urself

[lapis oak]

yes

I have no idea what was it doing

[wicked temple]

oh

[lapis oak]

had to read the wiki to know the differences

[dull heart]

It is possible I'm just spoiled from 2.1 DS though

[wicked temple]

whats 2.1 DS

[still bluff]

a worm