calamity-update-talk

[lapis oak]

OMG

CONFIRMED NPC

[teal bone]

note: there were some minor visual bugs with the sword positioning that have since been ironed out since the showcases were recorded 👍

[lapis oak]

WHAT

Gorthus is real

😨

[pulsar cobalt]

if theres ever a part of the mura video u need me to make a short clip of tell me

[lapis oak]

you want me to take screenshots of exclusive stuff?

[azure oak]

lucrecia vid

[lime lava]

nullification pistol line may as well just be a metroid reference

[lapis oak]

SEA GLASS SCALE

NEW ORE DROPPED

[lime lava]

plasma spazer mode 1 and annihilator beam mode 2

[lapis oak]

wow HD Aquamarine Staff sprite

Orios you know what to do

[azure oak]

yes yes i know i already mentioned it

[lapis oak]

THEN SLOWDOWN

I'M JUST GETTING THERE

[prisma cipher]

LETS FUCKING GO

POST MOON LORD STARLIGHT

we eating good today

and we will still ask for changelogs in like an hour

[pulsar cobalt]

weve known it would have starlights attack for like months,,,,

[prisma cipher]

yes but still

tupid

[pulsar cobalt]

UR tupid

[prisma cipher]

nop

ur tupid

[pulsar cobalt]

go back to nohitting inf old duke TUPID

[azure oak]

the stars in the second vid are similar to those in the lucrecia vid, so lucrecia might be a lightspeed material

[lapis oak]

ALMOST EVERY ARSENAL WEAPONS WILL HAVE 2 ATTACKS?

[fringe quiver]

why does mura have exclusive content zamn

[lapis oak]

HOLY SMOOLY

[fringe quiver]

did he get partnered to make a sso teaser with caldev

[prisma cipher]

at least i have a life outside of this DISCORD SERVER

smelly...

[pulsar cobalt]

ur smelli

[prisma cipher]

wrongng

im skeelli

[pulsar cobalt]

kinda yeah

[lapis oak]

this happened before he's an insider for sure

I mean

[teal bone]

It very well may be

[pulsar cobalt]

he just straight up goes to yuh and triangle for shit

[lapis oak]

Murasama dev variants slash animations and stuff

incredibly exclusive

he makes good presentation videos for Cal so it's a win win

[teal bone]

🙂‍↕️

[pulsar cobalt]

yippee i have the entire video now

[lapis oak]

WHAT

[fringe quiver]

Just don't look at the comments 🙏

[lapis oak]

did you just download the whole fucking thing

😭

[pulsar cobalt]

yes

the best way to get high quality screenshots is to just

have the video

[azure oak]

images for new prefixes

[lapis oak]

I mean after done watching I'm gonna be taking screenshots and making gif or videos too

[azure oak]

aight done watching the video

i guess it's time to get to work

[teal bone]

(For total clarity it is by the way)

[lapis oak]

WHAT

[azure oak]

also i guess haunted chum got renamed to festering remains

[lapis oak]

THE AERIAL TRACKER DOESN'T HAVE right click attack 😭

wtf

[azure oak]

maybe just one that hasn't been revealed

[lapis oak]

Pulse Pistol too

I guess not all really needs 2 attacks

[pulsar cobalt]

its more likely its a temporary thing

[lapis oak]

Pulse Rifle is solid even with 1 so yeah I can see it

[pulsar cobalt]

where the haunted chum name is revealed when it bites

[tribal isle]

what

[pulsar cobalt]

wat

[teal bone]

Also tooltip

[pulsar cobalt]

did u not know amidias is getting soul sucked

[tribal isle]

yuh

[naive ice]

Wot

[lapis oak]

omg Arsenal weapons sound so fun guh

it's fucking peak...

oh

[teal bone]

Based on the ones ive played with so far i concur :)

[lapis oak]

outdated Entropic Claymore 🥹

[lapis oak]

🙏

[azure oak]

this truly will be our calamity mod 2

[lapis oak]

CALAMITY MOD I FUCKING LOVE CALAMITY MOD

[teal bone]

this as well if its helpful for spoiler doc documentation 👍

[azure oak]

static lightspeed sprite

might be useful if try to make lightspeed... somehow

[pulsar cobalt]

im compiling things that need to be added onto the future doc, this is what i got so far
Haunted Chum: Spawn when a player gets too close to Festering Remains (the tail part)

Carrion Swallowers: Attempt to dash/bite at the player on sight. If a player is bitten, it collects bile, which gives it a temporary attack that allows it to shoot bile at the player

Jellyghouls: Attack with flame related projectiles

Shrimp Armour: Focused on melee-speed. Grants you a burning aura, which increases damage the closer you are to an enemy

[fringe quiver]

d9oes anyone have the image

dry amidias ...

[lapis oak]

burnt Squidward

AAAAAAAAAA

LIGHTSPEED

HOLY MY BELOVED

[azure oak]

mura's wording made it seem like amidias trying to square up with king clam and getting his soul sucked is the only thing that happens with him in pre-hm

[tribal isle]

does he die

or its a minor inconvenience

[lapis oak]

LUCRECIA

[azure oak]

he got his soul ripped from his body, he'll probably be fine

[lapis oak]

@teal bone can u send Lucrecia in here please 🥹

[tribal isle]

how does he look dry if we're underwater

[azure oak]

soul succ

[teal bone]

sure thing!
Just a reminder again, similar to lightspeed the showcase has a few visual bugs which have since been ironed out

[lapis oak]

okaaaay

🙏

[pulsar cobalt]

OH GOD WHAT DID I DO

I DIDNT MEAN TO TAKE SCREENSHOTS OF EVERY FRAME

[azure oak]

probably one of the bugs in question but funny swing animation

[azure oak]

EXCUSE ME

[teal bone]

oh no 😭

[azure oak]

HOW DO YOU EVEN DO THAT

[pulsar cobalt]

i

[lapis oak]

WHAT

HOW DID THIS EVEN HAPPEN

[pulsar cobalt]

managed to stop it before it got too bad

but still

[lapis oak]

HOW 😭

what buttons did bro just press to cause this

[pulsar cobalt]

I WANTED TO EXPORT THE EUTROPHIC RAY SPRITE SO I TRIED EXPORTING

BUT I DIDNT REALISE

[teal bone]

Yeah it didnt read well

[pulsar cobalt]

IT WOULDNT DO IT FOR THE PART IM IN

BUT FOR THE ENTIRE VIDEO

[distant raft]

uh oh!

[lapis oak]

HUH?????

STARMAGEDDON IS GETTING REWORKED???

WHAT??

[azure oak]

probably the abrupt stop of the arm and the sword not being held right

[lapis oak]

ERM HELLO W DONOR?

[teal bone]

yurp 👍

[lapis oak]

Starmageddon glowup!!!

[royal garnet]

will the enemy animations show in the recent mural video be posted on discord, pure?

[pulsar cobalt]

hey

[azure oak]

unsure but in case they don't, i'm here

[teal bone]

Its one of the most fun weapons in the mod to use in my opinion after what xyk did to it :D

[lapis oak]

it's more peak than Starmada?????

[tribal isle]

how am i gonna kill infernum yharon if starmageddon will get reworked 😭

[pulsar cobalt]

yea later, rn im just watching the video and taking note of wat needs changing in the future doc too

[teal bone]

Whoops I read that as starmada

😭

[azure oak]

i am absolutely autistic enough to recreate entire animations

[lapis oak]

😭

[azure oak]

so is it just mura misinfo

[lapis oak]

kinda skeptical about this

Starmageddon is a donor item

is it a W donor case or MURA misinfo 😭

need confirmation for this ngl

[azure oak]

ray

[lapis oak]

WHAT

more acc reforges

[azure oak]

adds more build variety and "constructive" is just gonna be useful in general

[teal bone]

May have been a mistake since I dont recall that being the case, though I may be totally wrong

[lapis oak]

Thorn damage only run boutta become real 😭

[azure oak]

imagine a full constructive loadout with toolbox & hand of creation

who needs to fly when you arm is that long

[teal bone]

whats this?

from another mod I take it?

[azure oak]

whu

[dull heart]

This isn't from cal

[teal bone]

believe thats a screenshot from another mod

mhm

[azure oak]

why the fuck is it in the video full of cal spoilers then 😭

[teal bone]

Think the intention was to use as placeholder b-roll

[dull heart]

That's from a different mod I made long before I became a cal dev

[azure oak]

ah

[dull heart]

well, "long"

A couple months

[lapis oak]

BRO WTF 😭

[azure oak]

well then, justa completely fake spoiler huh

[lapis oak]

THIS IS JUST MISINFORMATION

MURA omg

[dull heart]

+50% thorns went so hard though

[lapis oak]

I mean Youtube can let you cut already posted video so a Cal dev might wanna inform him that

cut that out

[dull heart]

What part of the video is it in

[teal bone]

def wasnt malicious! just may have forgotten to include a note saying the example footage is from another mod

[dull heart]

yeah

exactly

[lapis oak]

can cut the part where he show examples before mentioning new reforges introduction

[dull heart]

it's also funny that despite how comprehensive this was meant to be it's still missing the things I've spoiled about my favorite reworks I've done

[azure oak]

bruh

[lapis oak]

Chaos Stone

[dull heart]

Unless I just missed them in a quick scroll

[lapis oak]

funny MURA didn't have that one

[dull heart]

From Stratus, only Stratus Sphere and Draco was mentioned (and that one implied it is entirely the dragon)

rest in peace Galileo Gladius

and Crescent Moon which I've given the whole tooltip for before

but if there was only one to pick, Stratus Sphere was the right one

(it's mostly draco that makes me a little surprised)

[stuck kite]

this is some crazy seaposting

you already know the names of the new acc modifiers and neither of them have the same name in the image

[dull heart]

Yeah

[lapis oak]

I thought it was exclusive spoiler 😭

[stuck kite]

also the wikithis icon is just the Wrong Mod

there's like 4 clues alone in that image that its just not real

[tribal isle]

tuff teal string

[agile latch]

Starmageddon isnt getting a rework

I remember giving mura feedback on that.. but if i forgot, then its my fault gulp

Apparently i didnt gah

[pulsar cobalt]

did we alr have the sprites for will o wisp and charged polyp

[agile latch]

But yea no starmageddon rework

[agile latch]

Yes

[pulsar cobalt]

oki

idk where like

[silk terrace]

Sea

[pulsar cobalt]

the material sections of the future content doc is so yknow

[hasty hawk]

tbh Mura might have a vendetta against me or smth cuz no Spiteful enchant mentioned (altho that could've also been cuz its WIP in the teaser, and still is rn since vfx needs some work)

[agile latch]

Not a rename

Festering remains is the name of the body part

The heads are the chum

[tribal isle]

imagine if there was like a bucket of chum

[hasty hawk]

there is (vanilla item btw)

[pulsar cobalt]

knew it

im so smart

[lapis oak]

idk just put it in weapon section

[pulsar cobalt]

would prob make more sense in either biomes n structures or enemies, critters and town npcs

so yall said aquamarine staff was a new sprite?

[lapis oak]

HD sprite

Orios is recreating it

[agile latch]

The will o wisp anim isnt spoiled though but like

Mininal thing

You will see it ingame

[azure oak]

just a small size increase

[lapis oak]

new ore dropped

+1 ore in Sunken Sea

[white aurora]

the oreios

[azure oak]

i am autism

[white aurora]

:3

[pulsar cobalt]

btw tringle is this correct

[tribal isle]

is it true that theyre killing golden rod from angler

[white aurora]

yes im pretty sure

[tribal isle]

why

[hasty hawk]

it was removed from the future content doc (why?)

[white aurora]

because golden fishing rod pre boss would be a little strong methinks

[lapis oak]

probably when reorganizing the doc it was forgotten

[tribal isle]

not like it would affect the average player that doesnt know abt this

[lapis oak]

classic doc editors forgot everything

@vivid hemlock

[pulsar cobalt]

so from the draedon arsenal section which stuff is new

[lapis oak]

NONE

[pulsar cobalt]

dang

[lapis oak]

new in functionality texts

sprites we already have

Sentinel animation

did you get that

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[vivid hemlock]

okay i can finally nuke it from the doc now

what the fuck.

[agile latch]

It got a bit jumbled

[pulsar cobalt]

i have a bunch of stuff that can be changed

[agile latch]

Big eye is homing

Bubble head is splitting

[vivid hemlock]

i didnt feel like it on purpose :/

[pulsar cobalt]

ah ok thats exactly wat u said previously

so it didnt change at all

[vivid hemlock]

wait was that about the materials

idk i just woke up

[azure oak]

aaesd fsdfsr gsgw bbb

[dull heart]

y'all should move the doc into a website because it would be funny

[vivid hemlock]

WDYM MURA HAS A CLEAR VIDEO OF THE LIGHTSPEED VIDEO

[pulsar cobalt]

lets move the doc onto user wiki pages

[azure oak]

perhaps the website of a calamity

[white aurora]

calamitous website

[pulsar cobalt]

dw it was reposted by a dev here

[dull heart]

There's some in this channel too

[vivid hemlock]

god damnit i slept for all this to happen

[dull heart]

grahh I have a spoiler I want to show but I can't

[pulsar cobalt]

dw vanillin

im detailing changes n stuff now

[dull heart]

when 2.1 drops someone remind me to show bendy scourge

[terse dew]

what

[lapis oak]

he's an insider

we need to fucking get him

MURA when I fucking get you

[dull heart]

mura should have asked me for a video of scal arena

[tribal isle]

bendy was a little devil thing

[lapis oak]

PLEASE

[teal bone]

They hacked into my pc....

[lapis oak]

post it here... 🥺

[dull heart]

I would have said no

[lapis oak]

😭

[azure oak]

wow

[dull heart]

They should have asked me though

[tribal isle]

did mura just politely ask for teasers and got them

[pseudo vector]

wait did mura post his big sso video

[tribal isle]

yes

[pulsar cobalt]

yea

[dull heart]

I didn't even know this video was gonna happen

[lapis oak]

Desert Scourge didn't appear in the video

[pulsar cobalt]

well no he politely asked them so that he can put it in a video

[teal bone]

#calamity-update-talk message

[pulsar cobalt]

thats the difference between us and him

[teal bone]

Here you are 😊

[pulsar cobalt]

thats why he can ask

[lapis oak]

did Tringle and Tobias asked for it to not be mentioned?

[pulsar cobalt]

its cuz hes privelliged

or however its spelt

[dull heart]

It's not on the doc

because triangle asked for it not to be

[tribal isle]

youtuber privelege

[lapis oak]

no the MURA vid

not the doc tupid

[dull heart]

Yeah, that's probably why it's not on the mura vid though

[lapis oak]

figured

[vivid hemlock]

ty!!!

[dull heart]

I'd imagine he primarily looked at the doc

[lapis oak]

it's gonna be a massive suprise when the update dropS

[vivid hemlock]

he had to have used the doc at least once

[dull heart]

too bad mura vid didn't have this

[lapis oak]

WHAT

[azure oak]

speen

[lapis oak]

YOU

[dull heart]

What

[vivid hemlock]

STORMLION SENTINEL ANIMATION

😭

[pulsar cobalt]

huh

wat animation

[vivid hemlock]

its in teh mura video

[lapis oak]

TELL ME HOW IS GLAIVE REWORK RELATED TO DOG DEBUFF RUN VIABLE

🥺

[dull heart]

Take a guess

[twin juniper]

calmity overhaul 6 minutes into the vid

[lapis oak]

fuck my chud life...

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🐠

[dull heart]

If you were a real bloons fan you'd know

[lapis oak]

I don't play Bloons f u😭

[teal bone]

Was it shown in the vid or described?

👁️

[dull heart]

Shown

[lapis oak]

shown

[teal bone]

mmmm

[lapis oak]

awesome fucking animation

YUMMMMERS

[dull heart]

I didn't notice Wacro pack either

Chaos Stone might have been in the general list of reworked accesories, I didn't notice it though

[upper plover]

it was ye

[dull heart]

missing saros is sad

saros has aura now

[upper plover]

wasn't Saros in the video?

[white aurora]

holy shit glaive lord

[final pine]

mura should have put this in the vid

or this actually wrong one

[teal bone]

you mean this

[final pine]

yes

[dull heart]

I didn't see it but it's possible I missed it since I skipped around

[teal bone]

oh yeah you got it

the Correct version

[vivid hemlock]

@pulsar cobalt take as many notes on enemy behavior please thanks

[teal bone]

🔥

[pulsar cobalt]

already did

[dull heart]

So true oomfie

[teal bone]

soulja boy up in it ohhh

[upper plover]

it was briefly shown for like 3 seconds in the summoner section

[distant raft]

isnt it more gdom since 6 on the outer

[dull heart]

Gdom has only 3

[lapis oak]

Saros is there

[dull heart]

peak

[lapis oak]

suprised he didn't have Chaos Stone of all things tho

[dull heart]

I do actually have a coded gdom item

it might never get real though

since it doesn't have sprites

[distant raft]

fuckkkkkkkkk

[lapis oak]

you're so fucking late snail snail snail

[teal bone]

quick! slap it on as a rework to something which loosely fits its mechanics!

[lapis oak]

she already downloaded the whole video like 500 years ago

[dull heart]

there's nothing that works for it at all sprite wise

[teal bone]

dang

[dull heart]

unless I went like

sandslasher or something REALLY stupid

[teal bone]

Put it on anarchy blade.

and change absolutely nothing to make it make sense

[pulsar cobalt]

did yall mean these animations?

[teal bone]

🔥

[dull heart]

In other news I've saved pre boss rogue because there is now one single way to stealth strike without rogue armor

[azure oak]

crust

[teal bone]

That Discord Quality

[pulsar cobalt]

oh god the evil hell discord compression

oh god

[distant raft]

gif is fucked

wiki style

[pulsar cobalt]

YES I CAN SEE

[distant raft]

actually no wiki gifs get fucking nuked

[lapis oak]

bro wtf

use MP4

[pulsar cobalt]

YOURE THE FOURTH PERSON TO REACT TO THIS

💥

[lapis oak]

😭 just mute the video and use MP4

[teal bone]

wait I dont think she gets it yet

[lapis oak]

tupid

[teal bone]

the quality may be a little bit too bad

(im sorry)

[pulsar cobalt]

you know what you can have this just for you because I LOVE YOU THAT FUCKING MUCH

[lapis oak]

😨 ??????

why so violent

[vivid hemlock]

i dont fucking care

[azure oak]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[lapis oak]

BRO WTF MURA FADE AWAY THE FUCKING DASH ANIMATION

WHAT THE FUCK

😭

[pulsar cobalt]

oh right

@vivid hemlock i forgot two other things

Gar whip: Swinging it creates bile within it. When the player stops firing, the gar will release all the bile it has

Sea Glass Scales: A new ore in the Radiant Reefs. No sprites

[boreal edge]

Spoilers dropped or something

[rain rampart]

My computer dies for 4 days and delays the end of the multiplayer playthrough and we have new stuff soon

[hot pebble]

Kitchen gun when

[pulsar cobalt]

mura vid with new content

[lapis oak]

EXSLUCIVE SPOILERS

[teal bone]

Its ok ill make a poorly drawn storyboard to show what was missing

[lapis oak]

🥺

[boreal edge]

Kiri everyone has seen these already you’re late again

[lapis oak]

F U

[boreal edge]

ombgus

[lapis oak]

one day I'm gonna chop you up on the fucking cutting board

😠

[vivid hemlock]

kiri youre getting chopped :/

[boreal edge]

Chopped (Cooking show)

[vivid hemlock]

everytime an update drops we turn kiri into an iron star and then compost

[rain rampart]

Summoner weapon looks dope

[fierce nebula]

Sso today

[azure oak]

aquamarine staff

[lapis oak]

holy shit

it's done

bro wtf

why the video went from 10 dislikes to only 2 now 😭

what even happened

[dusk bronze]

haunted chum rename??

[teal bone]

gommage

[pulsar cobalt]

no

tail name

[lapis oak]

did you eat them

[pulsar cobalt]

ngl i forgot mirror blade was resprited a while back

[fast vessel]

Considering the backlash to the crate nerfs, is there any chance they get reverted?

[lapis oak]

no

people be complaining about everything

[hasty hawk]

some stuff like oversights will be reverted
stuff like bugs will be fixed
other stuff such as some crates giving nothing special will be changed but not reverted
some crates will get some new stuff

[twin trail]

I have to ask. Is pt 1 of the Sunken Sea update out now? I looked at the changelogs and it seems like it might be? Can anyone confirm?

[hasty hawk]

no

pretty sure it wont be out til next year

[twin trail]

Okay. Still gotta be patient for the time being then. Ty for the info

[fast vessel]

Are the extra ores going to be added back? Fishing was already barely used, and removing ores from them makes fishing even less attractive. Considering a fishing mini game is being added, do the devs expect players to play this mini game if there’s no reward for doing it?

[twin trail]

Well I guess then it'll still be a long while then huh? Okay then

[hasty hawk]

Fishing Minigame is in concept phase rn, it will have rewards dont worry
Extra ores will not be added afaik

[twin juniper]

add 50 more crates exclusive pets items

[dusk bronze]

golden bat in sso????

[hasty hawk]

the big issue crates had before is trivializing/skipping content and making exploration very worthless

why explore the abyss when you can fish stuff out?

why do Acid Rain if you can fish the drops?

[frail tapir]

nice

[fast vessel]

Counter argument, why fish if fishing doesn’t give anything?

[hasty hawk]

fishing will still give stuff

[pulsar cobalt]

the solution to fishing isnt giving fishing stuff that already exists

[hasty hawk]

more than rn but not as broken as it used to be

[stuck kite]

potion ingredients, weapons, etc still exist

crates aren't everything, for one

[fast vessel]

2 (two) useful items across the entire playthrough (reaver shark and abyssal amulet)

[hasty hawk]

reaver shark is going to vanilla status

[frail tapir]

they are just for early game really

[pulsar cobalt]

frog leg

fishing weapons

ursa seargant

[twin juniper]

I heard brimcrag crates kinda suck rn

[pulsar cobalt]

like what?

[fierce nebula]

Potion stuff

[pulsar cobalt]

wdym it has nothing

[hasty hawk]

yes that was a mega oversight and is being fixed

[fast vessel]

So it can’t mine hellstone?

[lapis oak]

this is a gold mine

[fierce nebula]

Yep

Finally

[twin juniper]

I love toxic karp

[fast vessel]

Why? Now fishing is literally useless.

[twin juniper]

good to know

[fierce nebula]

Calamity fans are so miserable

[fierce nebula]

[hasty hawk]

nope (you can still get early hellstone with Hell lab and Crags chests lol)

[lapis oak]

youtube comments are such gold mine

genuinely peak stuff

[vivid hemlock]

we need to kill youtube users

[fierce nebula]

Oh that’s not…

[hasty hawk]

[stuck kite]

yeah that happens usually

[twin juniper]

I remember seeing someone talk about post ml hivemind there and the reply were like “cool to know cal dev still make bad decisions on bosses”

[lapis oak]

nooo don't kill them I need my goldmine not coalmine 😔

what will be left of youtube if comment section dies

[fierce nebula]

Remove calamity players

[vivid hemlock]

okay yeah weve seen that shrimp armor variant before

[hasty hawk]

people do not like change

[vivid hemlock]

i recognized it

#calamity-update-talk message

[hasty hawk]

even if it can bring better stuff

[dull heart]

Fishing minigame is fully implemented actually

[final pine]

correction: children do not like change

[hasty hawk]

in a branch or smth?

i wanna check it out

[dull heart]

no it's in 1.4.4

it's been merged for months

[hasty hawk]

[dull heart]

I used wulfrum pole this playthrough to get an energy core because I was too lazy to go find amplifiers lol

[stuck kite]

yeah just about all the fishing changes/additions are in 1.4.4 right now

[dull heart]

We might move the minigames from poles to bobber accesories but that's about it

[stuck kite]

acc reworks + minigames + drop reworks + 🐌

[dull heart]

I do need to fix the minigame indicator being very hard to see

Idk how it broke but somehow they became very transparent

[lapis oak]

someone needs to post MURA vid on Reddit too ngl

good informative video

[cunning sequoia]

they don't like change but they're also impatient for changes

[soft sonnet]

no matter how good anything is people will always find a way to complain

there's bound to always be that one guy

[pulsar cobalt]

bond

[soft sonnet]

yes, james.

[valid crypt]

Insert that calamity devs summoning 200 fans of something noone likes

[twin juniper]

But I liked lahzar

[dusk bronze]

how does mura know like 50 things nobody else does

[pulsar cobalt]

dms

[soft sonnet]

seemingly got exclusive content ™ from devas

which makes sense, its good advertising

both for mura and the devs themselves

[hasty hawk]

tbh should dm him when i finish the Spiteful enchant

the other im probably gonna save it for SSO part-1

[dusk bronze]

i can't believe i'm forced to watch mura videos

[fierce nebula]

Mura is the #1 calamity overhaul glazer

[dusk bronze]

💔

[hasty hawk]

I havent dmed GitGudWo in a huge while

[twin juniper]

suspiciously murasama shaped sword on giant clam 6 minutes in

[hasty hawk]

altho he doesnt do Cal content anymore iirc

[tropic jolt]

what if instead of overhauling calamity there was a mod that added freddy fazbears pizzeria to calamity

[fierce nebula]

What if calamity

[azure oak]

what

[jovial axle]

nah hes got a point

[fierce nebula]

Tuff

[tropic jolt]

har har har har

[azure oak]

fred

[amber furnace]

🍔

[azure oak]

i am definitely not going ultra autism mode rn

[vivid hemlock]

we need to extract those animations

[azure oak]

yup, definitely not doing anything relating to that

[tropic jolt]

those who go

[vivid hemlock]

dumb fuck you thought it wasnt real?

[dull heart]

The only YouTubers I've dmed are JFL and GP

[azure oak]

miserable

[pulsar cobalt]

which ones

[lapis oak]

everything

[pulsar cobalt]

thanks i totally understand that

[dusk bronze]

you should remove the heart sprite mention from cv
bc it's scrapped

[vivid hemlock]

i did that alr 👍

[soft sonnet]

my horrible son

he is severely ill

[vivid hemlock]

creatures

[analog helm]

"bwoooghhh"

[teal bone]

voice acting by yours truly

for these guys

[stuck kite]

🐟

[hasty hawk]

i’ve talked to em but inside Nohit

i thought i had dmed em but apparently not

[barren steppe]

I thinik it's really funny that this guy throws exploding babies at people

[stuck kite]

creatures do that sometimes

[twin juniper]

Wouldn’t be the first time

Looking at levi

[spark kiln]

lol ppl on reddit genuinely tweaking because they nerfed fishing crates

someone said the devs are intentionally sabotaging the mod to spite fabsol

[vast sail]

wdym they nerfed fishing crate

[spark kiln]

i mean what the sentence says

[vast sail]

no more auric ore from titanium crate?

[spark kiln]

idk i didn’t look at the specific changes

[fierce nebula]

Cal reddit and cal youtube are insufferable

[desert garnet]

ye

[spark kiln]

50000000 fishing lovers appearing the second crates are nerfed

[desert garnet]

they didnt changed much which would affect anybody playthrough

[fierce nebula]

Gif

Calamity devs summoning 10000 fans

[vast sail]

#changelogs message 760 sounds like more work for cpu but i can be completely wrong

[desert garnet]

calamity devs summoning 1 fan with 10000 alts

[twin juniper]

saruman gif

[hasty hawk]

Yep I was like its only Youtube til I saw that Reddit post

also poor Stip having to deal with all of those people

[spark kiln]

there’s no way that many people care that much

[vast sail]

so auric ore is still obtainable from titanium crates post yharon right

[fierce nebula]

🥀

[pulsar cobalt]

theyre getting told to care

[misty wren]

anything is

[hasty hawk]

no but you can shimmer dragon souls for auric ore

[umbral star]

hey remember when the devs said the mod was gonna speed up production

[spark kiln]

no

[pulsar cobalt]

just because u cant see it doesnt mean its not happening

[fierce nebula]

Calamity has no developers

Calamity situation is crazy

[spark kiln]

calamity lost all developers years ago

[vast sail]

you can't anymore?

[desert garnet]

SSO hell

[umbral star]

omg feels like it

[fierce nebula]

[hasty hawk]

no, altho it has been far better after restructuring changes even tho 1.4.5 vanilla delayed some stuff (like summoner)

[desert garnet]

you havent read #calamity-update-talk it seems

[thorny fjord]

No, you can now. You couldn't before. This was added to replace it being in crates

[pulsar cobalt]

no its a new feature

[soft sonnet]

yeah it has

They've gotten more for sunken sea ever since fabsol left than the entire time he was here 😭

Which is like. a few months

[fierce nebula]

Remove

[soft sonnet]

They got more done in a few months after fab leaving than multiple years with him on the team

[vast sail]

i thought auric ore from titanium crates was obtainable before this patch?

[fierce nebula]

[thorny fjord]

Yes it was, and it isn't now

I'm not sure what you are saying

[vast sail]

oh

[soft sonnet]

Mfers just want the update to come out in 3.6 picoseconds immediately after fabsol got killed

[misty wren]

yeah it isnt anymore the soul shimmering is what got added

[fierce nebula]

It’s a misunderstanding

[vast sail]

ohhh i get it now

[fierce nebula]

✅

[umbral star]

i wish

but i do get it

[azure oak]

fish

[umbral star]

im just kinda anxious and sad

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🐠

Fiisshh

[umbral star]

whatever we still got optimism and stuffs

[fierce nebula]

We still have trove

[soft sonnet]

The update is huge, it's gonna take time to come out
Devs have shown a ton of progress as is, there's no need to worry

[lapis oak]

Trove best game

[soft sonnet]

It's just taking time because, well

It's big

[misty wren]

anyways the part of development speeding up that makes it hard to quantify when it isnt like finishing half the update in a couple months and finishing the other half in another couple months is the part where we dont know when the update would come out without the speedup anyways

[hasty hawk]

people forget its volunatry work and we dont get paid

[tropic jolt]

calamity players when the unpaid development team is slow

[stuck kite]

it would take a lot less time if its like 8 hours a day type work

[hasty hawk]

and most people are Uni students

[fierce nebula]

They should work faster for me specifically

[stuck kite]

but it's not

it's really really not

[fierce nebula]

Because I said so

[misty wren]

we cant quantify how much faster the update gets finished because we dont know when the update would be finished before to compare the 2

[umbral star]

also we have now reached negative developers somehow 😲

we have negative people working on calamity

[fierce nebula]

Hooray

This is good

[stiff light]

when i win the lottery i will give 200 dollar to each developer so we can have yharim now

[vast sail]

some mfs expect updates like coding, spriting and balancing doesn't take time

[tropic jolt]

can you attract more developers with your attracting skills the attractor

[fierce nebula]

1 dollar

[vast sail]

does this mean negative progress

[fierce nebula]

Take it or leave it

[umbral star]

yes

[fierce nebula]

✅ 🔥

[umbral star]

negative developers remove content

[vast sail]

hooray

[umbral star]

we're going back an update

[vast sail]

antimatter developers

[umbral star]

this mod is becoming 1.3 exclusive again

[stiff light]

crate

[vast sail]

honestly the only thing i really care about crate stuff is the post ml ores

[dull heart]

This mod is becoming a mod for Edge of Space actually

[umbral star]

scal has no arena blocks anymore

[stiff light]

huge

[dull heart]

Those did get deleted

[native thistle]

SSO in a minute

[dull heart]

it's true

[hasty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[umbral star]

OH YEAH

im dumb

[stiff light]

the oceangate submarine has 1 hour of oxygen left !

[umbral star]

quick! someone times negative 1 the devs

[fierce nebula]

What

[vast sail]

5 hours away
a l w a y s

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🦐

[vast sail]

i wonder how long does it take for the devs to debug the code

[native thistle]

around 2

[vast sail]

2 what

[thorny fjord]

SSO is like the dark side of the moon. Despite time always being spent on the update, your time passes too, so it is always out of reach.

[pulsar cobalt]

depends

[native thistle]

2

[vast sail]

the 5 hours away is at a fixed place in time

it's always 5 hours

no more no less

[halcyon seal]

SSO, like Yharim, is coming out on Tuesday

[vast sail]

note that it's not specified which tuesday

so it can be 76379 years later

[stiff light]

yay

[vast sail]

it's almost 2 am rn i should be sleeping

[stiff light]

yea

what kinda timezone is that

do you live perth

[vast sail]

somewhere in asia

[lapis oak]

Australia

[vestal osprey]

I have a feeling when this update releases people are gonna flip and go WERE SO BACK

[vivid hemlock]

there is 100% still gonna be a large sum of people that will still not be satisfied

[halcyon seal]

When this update releases the immediate first thing people will do is “when SSO2”

[tropic jolt]

no new bosses..? calamity is DOOMED!!!!

[fierce nebula]

“Where is the murasama rework!!!????!!!???????”

[halcyon seal]

No new bosses mfs when there’s three and a half new bosses in SSO1

[fierce nebula]

“I’ll just play calamity overhaul!”

[vivid hemlock]

someones gonna complain that the sunken sea looks different 😭

[mystic eagle]

Consider this

[vestal osprey]

It just rubs me the wrong way when people go on about how terrible the calamity devs are

This isnt a game studio, these are people who are working out of passion

[tropic jolt]

if they're not named yharim noxus and xeroc then I will NOT support clamity 😡

[fierce nebula]

What does it do

Yharim is coming in 2021

Don’t worry

[halcyon seal]

No, the devs didn’t do what I wanted and therefore they are worse than Satan

[vestal osprey]

Nothing by itself

[fierce nebula]

✅

[halcyon seal]

Right guys

We all agree here

[vivid hemlock]

mhm

[fierce nebula]

Evil horses

[vestal osprey]

You need the "Awsome lesbian couple" mod to really get its features

[halcyon seal]

This already exists

Levi & Anahita

[fierce nebula]

Calamity mod

[hushed hazel]

no it's lilies of finality

levi and anahita is a fish and her dog

[halcyon seal]

THIS FISH Is Dating The HOTTEST Bitches In The North Sea FOR FREE, And Basically, You’re Fucking Stupid.

How…? Defeat the ??? below to learn more.

[fierce nebula]

✅ ✅

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🐠

[vestal osprey]

I mean its theorized that provicence and the profaned guardians are a lesbain polycule

[fierce nebula]

🔥

[halcyon seal]

Is it theorized if it’s just true

Like that just is why provi is pissed at you specifically right

[vestal osprey]

Its never been confirmed if its romantic or just someone really close i beleive

[mystic eagle]

The Terrarian is the Endbringer to the LGBT

[vivid hemlock]

theyre not all lesbians (it would be funny tho) but yes she does go after you because you killed them

[vestal osprey]

but god damn I want my nillilistic omnisidal lesbains

[vivid hemlock]

and yes theyre all girls

[hushed hazel]

woman who claims that killing everything will remove suffering from the world gets really mad when you kill her girlboss polycule so they can no longer suffer. curious !

[halcyon seal]

Nihilists when I kill their whole family in front of them

[mystic eagle]

They continously seperate homosexual and lesbian couples

[halcyon seal]

That’s why Yharim is the final boss, the terrarian can’t fight him until they’re strong enough to separate straight couples too

[mystic eagle]

The Terrarian also killed a transfem

And several polycules

[halcyon seal]

Which one

[mystic eagle]

Queen Slime, duh!

[halcyon seal]

I think Slime God is genderfluid more than trans tbh

[soft sonnet]

queen slime is NOT transfem

[vestal osprey]

at least were nice to the non binary

[halcyon seal]

But we kill the strongest enby polycule in existence (Exos)

[mystic eagle]

Gendered robots

[halcyon seal]

I can’t believe the terrarian would kill these people just because they’re different and also because they want to end the universe

[vestal osprey]

Are the exos quantom computers? if so they would be non binary in a literal sense

[halcyon seal]

I think they have every vaguely futuristic technology in them

All of them

No matter what it’s used for

Draedon why did you place this extremely advanced microwave oven inside of Ares

[soft sonnet]

they have quantum nanoparticle acceleration thermoregulated microchip 4g

[vestal osprey]

We do use a QUANTOM cooling cell for the codebreaker

but then again that could just be the player naming things stupidly

[tropic jolt]

skeletron prime

[halcyon seal]

We did name the giant genocide war machine Skeletron Prime

Yeah

The Terrarian has one definitive character trait and it’s that they suck at names

[tropic jolt]

tbh draedon named his genocide war machine "ares" thats not very creative

boring ass robot

[mystic eagle]

The angler would've called it Arse

[vestal osprey]

I would of called him skeletron prime prime shm

[distant raft]

slave 37 actually

[halcyon seal]

Do you think the Tinkerer and Draedon would get along

[fierce nebula]

The tinkerer from alchemistnpc✅

[halcyon seal]

Ew

[fierce nebula]

Goblin tinkerer from terraria ❌

[vivid hemlock]

alchnpc 🚬

[fierce nebula]

Kill alchemistnpc

[tropic jolt]

goblin will scam draedon and end up being encased in tungsten

[halcyon seal]

New suggestion for lore writers: the only thing that should be carried over from WotG is that the Goblin Tinkerer does not believe in climate change

[fierce nebula]

The goblin tinkerer is very smart

[thorny nacelle]

Will every weapon be reworked in both parts of the SSO?

[azure oak]

a lot of weapons are getting reworked in SSO part 1 but definitely not every

[thorny nacelle]

Oh right, some of them might be removed.

Actually, while we're on the subject, will vanilla weapons be reworked too as the mod gets updated/refined?

[vivid hemlock]

no

[hasty tangle]

does cal even rework a single vanilla weapon

(not counting tiershifts/buffs/nerfs)

[thorny nacelle]

I haven't played in a while, but I'm giving that a no.

[modern grove]

Cal's scope is already way too big with reworks, I can't see them reworking vanilla weapons as well

[hasty tangle]

yeah, and there no real reason to imo

cal will have plenty of unique weapons, no need to go so far out of the way to change vanilla's too

[royal egret]

ruler rework sso part 2

[arctic cliff]

Many vanilla armor sets now have more fanciful set bonuses, often because most of their og set bonuses were kinda lame

[hasty tangle]

yeah, thats true

[inner ridge]

other than stat changes i dont think they've reworked any vanilla weapons

[arctic cliff]

emphasis on “most” because chlorophyte got its bonus reworked in vanilla and calamity in different ways

[desert garnet]

and now they are removing those changes

[arctic cliff]

I feel like there was

[inner ridge]

they're basically the same functionally apart from some of them having different velocity for projectiles or different damage for example

[desert garnet]

i can only think of magic missile shooting 2 projectiles

which i dont know if it counts as a rework

[distant raft]

turning amber staff into clockwork assault rifle

[arctic cliff]

Wait where

[inner ridge]

yeah i guess there's the gem staves forgot about em

[desert garnet]

im 100% there is in changelogs

[fierce nebula]

Why

[desert garnet]

ill try to find them

[fierce nebula]

This RUINS calamity mod for me

[desert garnet]

lead armor:

[fierce nebula]

I’m going to slander their not paid dev team in a youtube comments section for an hour now!

[desert garnet]

(knockback resist)

[fierce nebula]

I’m a good person

[lavish otter]

I'm afraid to report that after this message, MysticalCat was never seen again (ignore the messages they sent after this)

[arctic cliff]

I tried to find these changes in changelogs and I’m afraid to report that I don’t see any of these reversions

[desert garnet]

same

only some changes to stats

[inner ridge]

yeah there's no removals i can tell

[desert garnet]

mb then

[inner ridge]

most significant thing i saw was nerfs to plat and gold armour

[arctic cliff]

You could be confusing them with other reversions to vanilla content, after all the devs have been reverting a lot of changes done by calamity to vanilla

[desert garnet]

i dont remember most of the changes anymore cuz of how long the update was being made xd

i must have confused with smth else

[hasty hawk]

I’d argue he’d get even better with the Operator due to their fascination of containing and researching creatures

[vivid hemlock]

no, fuck you

[vivid hemlock]

theres no section for material information its scattered across the entire doc (maybe ill make one later)

[high scaffold]

SSO is inevitable at this point

The biomes, creatures, reworks

[autumn pollen]

the SSO is upon us!!

maybe

possibly

[tropic jolt]

sso never

[hard copper]

changelogs today

[autumn pollen]

spoilers tomorrow

[shut ridge]

True

[raw falcon]

You dont understand

SSO is already here

we just didnt know where to look

[slim notch]

is there a specific date for when sunken sea part 1 releases

[raw falcon]

when its ready

[hard copper]

Nope, no one knows, not even the devs

[slim notch]

oh ok, i kept hearing stuff about it and thought it had a set date

thats mb

[royal garnet]

yes last Halloween

[slim notch]

[sturdy steppe]

is the calamity fables mod the new main mod?

[oblique hedge]

when yharim fight

[valid crypt]

Is their literal last priority rn

[oblique hedge]

what is their higher priority

[still bluff]

yharim 2040

[valid crypt]

Sunken sea overhaul/whatever else they scope creep the update with

[misty wren]

no

[sturdy steppe]

ah i see

[valid crypt]

Hell no

[rich ginkgo]

sigh

🥹🥹

[misty wren]

fables is a distinctly different mod made by an entirely different team

[sturdy steppe]

okay fair

[hollow timber]

Do we know yet whether the Sunken Sea update p1 will release in 2025 or 2026 or later yet? I just watched Mura's video on it and it looks really fun!

[rich ginkgo]

nope 0 idea

[misty wren]

most likely 2026

[valid crypt]

Almost certainly 2026 imo

[hollow timber]

makes sense, it is december already after all :/

[rich ginkgo]

i really dont think 2026

[misty wren]

at what point in 2026 is unknown but i dont think theres enough time in the year to finish the update

[valid crypt]

The devs themselves think its coming after 1.4.5 and 1.4.5 is probably january 2026

[barren nacelle]

Oh god the Murarmy

[valid crypt]

Yeah…

[rich ginkgo]

1.4.5 is coming january 2025…

🥹

[pulsar cobalt]

damn its coming out in -11 months

thats crazy

[misty wren]

like i dont think its possible they finish the update within 20 days

[hollow timber]

Idk what this is, but I can assure you I'm not a part of an army

[rich ginkgo]

was i in a coma for a year orr

it’s december 5th 2025

[misty wren]

yeah

[rich ginkgo]

relogic is saying mid this month to january

is their estimation

[sturdy steppe]

ho that that far

[rich ginkgo]

for 1.4.5

[misty wren]

you said 1.4.5 in january 2025

[rich ginkgo]

ion get it

[misty wren]

which is 11-12 months ago

[rich ginkgo]

ohhh im just special

okay

thank you

[soft panther]

Any update on calamity whips? Or have they been pushed back due to general consensus on them not belonging - wow actually, how long has it been since whips got even added

[pulsar cobalt]

theyre being added

at least one is coming in the next (proper) update

[misty wren]

also thats never been general consensus outside of like a 3 month period following 1.4 dropping

[soft panther]

That was bigger than I expected

[valid crypt]

Wait what i thought calamity waiting for the summoner nerf

[misty wren]

to add more yeah

but one is planned for next update

[valid crypt]

So they are adding more…

[pulsar cobalt]

no gar whip is fully planned for sso pt 1

[valid crypt]

Tf is no gar whip

[pulsar cobalt]

the others are probably on hold tho

[pulsar cobalt]

no COMMA gar whip

[valid crypt]

That does not ellaborate

[pulsar cobalt]

and gar is a fish

[valid crypt]

Ah

[rich ginkgo]

fish whip

[valid crypt]

Got it

[soft panther]

What’s been the hold up in including them

[misty wren]

melongun cannot google for shit 💔

[hollow timber]

some could call it a... fhwip

[soft panther]

I mean didn’t whips get added in 2020?

[misty wren]

summoner balance overhaul

[valid crypt]

Summoner rn is just comedically op so devs dont want to add mire fuel to the fire of making it op

[pulsar cobalt]

rebalancing all of summoner to accomodate the vanilla ones

[misty wren]

right now summoner is above average without whips and whips just make summoner so much better

[hollow timber]

agreed, why does everyone hate on summoner so much?

[soft panther]

I mean, is it op? - I would prefer if they do nerf it for whatever reason - they make summoner gameplay less move her, and there, jump - and actually allow some versatility when fighting - like the weapon I forget, but the void had a right click -

[misty wren]

yes

it statistically is op

[valid crypt]

Summoner is the strongest class iirc

[hasty tangle]

because people hate on every single class

because its terraria

[hollow timber]

fair enough

[pulsar cobalt]

the true class consistency is that everyone hates classes

[misty wren]

summoner has been the strongest class since the great melee speed reduction making melee no longer the unequivocal single best class

[pulsar cobalt]

melee speed was so funny,,,,

[hasty tangle]

was it really?

[pulsar cobalt]

still have a video on my old channel showing dog getting obliterated in like 40 seconds cuz of melee speed stacking making terror blade stupidly good

[misty wren]

oh yeah no melee speed is a fucked up and evil stat when you're getting like +90% or higher off your armor a potion and a single accessory

[unkempt dove]

MURA's video showcase of the upcoming Sunken Sea Update is a blessing sent from heaven

[vivid hemlock]

a blessing for the non-discord calamity community

[pulsar cobalt]

half the video was dedicated to weapon reworks we alr knew,,,,

the arsenal stuff is new i think tho

[vivid hemlock]

yeah lmao

[soft panther]

I mean, maybe it’s just a skill issue, but I’ve seen, in terms of killing bosses - summoner class takes a considerable amount of time, compared to say no hits with magic or melee - although don’t quote me

[unkempt dove]

true but I haven't really seen them lol

[misty wren]

at that point it was 15 melee speed off bloody mary, another about 15 off cshell, and i think like 60 off armor set bonuses

[misty wren]

ironically mage is the weakest class on average

[lofty vapor]

I just learned that the draedon weapon's charge mechanics are being removed and I am so fucking happy

[vivid hemlock]

most of the new stuff was like enemy functionality and art

[misty wren]

and melee is generally nothing special there either

[unkempt dove]

fr though

[lofty vapor]

I might actually use them now

[pulsar cobalt]

glass sea scales !!!

[hasty tangle]

one step closer to power cells getting sent to the adios dimension too

[pulsar cobalt]

cant forget the new ore that was just

randomly dropped

[misty wren]

i say on average because fucked up and evil kirby reference

[lofty vapor]

Also melee!!! Being updated to be MORE melee! GOD the sword throwing mechanics look SO cool

[soft panther]

You say that, but I feel mage no hits take considerably less time to make, due to dps - the issue with mage is class cannon, so if you genuinely no hit, that doesn’t really matter

[unkempt dove]

The new sea prism summon weapon looks really good

[misty wren]

no the issue with mage is that none of the weapons are very good outside of a small handful and The Outlier

[lofty vapor]

YEAH

[vivid hemlock]

mura didnt mention blunderbass 💔

rookie mistake

[soft panther]

Name a few, it’s been awhile since I played mage

[pulsar cobalt]

o vanillin

[unkempt dove]

I was like, "Oh snap! Pre-Hardmode Terraprisma!!" Until it was revealed to have some sort of charge mechanic, but thats alright

[lofty vapor]

God and the new sprites and art look SO good and I'm super excited

[lyric trellis]

The Outlier 🐘

[pulsar cobalt]

can u change this to say "increases in damage" because rn it reads like it increases your overall damage

[misty wren]

meteor staff, crystal vile shard iirc, and The Outlier is glorious end which is actually the single best non-support weapon in the game if you know how to build around using it

[pulsar cobalt]

im not gonna sugar coat it. star veil + glorious end

[vivid hemlock]

👍

[unkempt dove]

The new sub biome mobs look really cool

[lofty vapor]

Also is the new draedon summoner weapon a reference to risk of rain? Like, it's literally called "plasma shrimp"

[vivid hemlock]

(where is this lmao i dont remember what part of the doc its in)

[lofty vapor]

If so that's so cool

[vivid hemlock]

thats the old placeholder name

[pulsar cobalt]

armors

[fringe quiver]

the murarmy

[vivid hemlock]

the murarmy...

[lofty vapor]

Aahhh

[unkempt dove]

Mage is getting a minigun!!!

[pulsar cobalt]

its not, its the name of the minion

(very different)

[vivid hemlock]

lmao

[pulsar cobalt]

also yes it is a ror2 reference

[soft panther]

Yes, it seems mage is in a bit of a bad stop - as for summoner, I mean, it’s a hard one, as nerfs could easily make it weaker than mage

To be honest, summoner is a hard class to balance, - do you make it less damage, and have higher defence, or more damage and lower

[unkempt dove]

only drawback is that it takes up 4 summon slots

[pulsar cobalt]

if u want i have all the arsenal functionalities typed out

[vivid hemlock]

hm

maybe i should rewrite the arsenal weapons section

[pulsar cobalt]

cuz theyre like

[lofty vapor]

Ooh maybe later, im about to hop on dragons dogma lol

[pulsar cobalt]

the only weapon that we dont have a video on

[fringe quiver]

summoner is unarguably the strongest class in calamity right now or something like that idk im not a balance nerd

[pulsar cobalt]

summoner is like

[misty wren]

the question isnt defense because that in calamity is extremely easy to build
the issue is balancing how much contrib whips should have to a weapons damage/killtime

[pulsar cobalt]

ok so imagine if every other class had around 90-110% damage output

summoner with just minions would be 110% already

whips would be another 40%

and sentry would be like 20%

[lofty vapor]

I've always seen summoner as this "sit back and relax" class, I'd love if it were changed to be more of a micro managing class

[fringe quiver]

i'm ngl most of the classes play very similarly to eachother i think

is that a hot take

or is it a cold take

[vivid hemlock]

no

[fringe quiver]

or is it like lukewarm

[lofty vapor]

Nah

[vivid hemlock]

very cold

[fringe quiver]

i dont like any of the classes more than eachother that much becasue theyre like

all kinda the same

idk why people are so like

[valid crypt]

Cold

[lofty vapor]

I think it's the main issue tbh and why mage seems to lag behind

[fringe quiver]

adamant on which classes are more fun or better idk

[vivid hemlock]

relogic designing mage to basically be ranger